How thick should steel and aluminum armor be to protect against 152mm shell fragments?

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How thick should steel and aluminum armor be to protect against 152mm shell fragments?

It is no secret that artillery shell fragments pose a danger not only to openly located manpower (infantry), but also to combat equipment, especially if the ammunition detonates at a short distance. And we are not only talking about damage to sights and various attachments, but also through penetration of armor. In this regard, a reasonable question arises: how thick should this armor be so that fragments cannot penetrate it?

About the problem


Perhaps we should start with the fact that this aspect of anti-fragmentation protection has almost no bearing on tanks. Yes, artillery shell fragments can cause significant damage to vehicles of this class - for example, they can smash sights, destroy external equipment, damage the gun barrel and even seriously batter the chassis. However, they are often unable to penetrate tank armor - the thickness is beyond their capabilities.



But with equipment such as infantry fighting vehicles, armored personnel carriers, self-propelled guns and light armored vehicles, the situation is completely different. Different, but quite understandable: their armor is significantly thinner, which is due to the specifics of their use, so assessing their protection from shrapnel during a close shell explosion is very relevant from both a practical and theoretical (within the framework of comparing samples) point of view.

But how can this assessment be made?

Of course, the easiest way is to take the test results of the required equipment samples and compare them, but it is unlikely that everyone interested will have such documents at hand. And the conditions for carrying out executions on combat vehicles (distance from the detonating munition, its caliber, etc.) vary greatly depending on the technical specifications and standards adopted in a particular country, where the sample chosen for comparison comes from.

Given these circumstances, it is advisable to use armor penetration and the corresponding resistance equivalent, expressed in millimeters of steel or, for example, aluminum armor, as the main criterion by which one could judge the level of protection against fragments.

Millimeters in practice


Of course, it is possible to calculate the armor penetration of fragments using a calculator, which is often done in relevant studies both here and abroad. However, full-scale experiments with multiple detonations of shells at different distances from armor plates can be even more informative in this regard, since it is quite difficult to take into account all the nuances of fragment formation on paper - after all, we are not talking about armor-piercing ammunition.

One of these experiments was conducted in the Soviet Union and is described in sufficient detail in technical literature. We will familiarize ourselves with its results, since they were recommended by the authors not only for assessing the anti-fragmentation resistance of existing combat vehicles, but also for designing new armored vehicles.

This study involved armor plates of various thicknesses made of 2P, 54P, and BT-70 steel grades with thermomechanical treatment, as well as plates made of ABT-101 aluminum alloy. The characteristics of these materials can be found in the attached table.


As for the ammunition, the "guinea pigs" were 100mm and 152mm high-explosive fragmentation shells. The average initial velocity of their fragments, measured using high-speed filming, was: 760-780 m/s for 100mm and 920-930 m/s for 152mm. And the distribution of fragments by mass in percentage is shown below in the image.


It is noteworthy that the shells were detonated (at different distances from the armor plates) at a height that ensured maximum fragmentation of the target. That is, the experimental conditions were far from "greenhouse" - when artillery shells are detonated in a real battle, the equipment is exposed to less impact from the fragmentation flow, some of which goes past or even into the ground.

Now let's look at the information that we were able to obtain during the experiments.


Here is the anti-fragmentation resistance of the armor when a 100-mm high-explosive fragmentation shell explodes, depending on the distance. 1 - 2P steel, 2 - 54P steel, 3 - BT-70 steel with thermomechanical treatment, 4 - ABT-101 aluminum armor alloy.


This image shows the armor's anti-fragmentation resistance to a 152-mm high-explosive shell depending on the distance. The designations are the same: 1 - 2P steel, 2 - 54P steel, 3 - BT-70 steel with thermomechanical treatment, 4 - ABT-101 aluminum armor alloy.

Of course, the resistance of the studied materials turned out to be different - this is not surprising, given the characteristics of the alloys. But the main thing is that, based on these results, the authors were able to determine the average thickness of the armor (or its equivalent when using inclined armor parts and combined/shielded protection), which can guarantee protection from fragments at a distance of 10 meters from the exploding shell (the maximum strict requirement for the distance, which is included in the technical specifications for the production of lightly armored vehicles).

For 100 mm shells it is: 10-12 mm of steel armor and 32 mm of aluminum. For 152 mm shells: 25 mm of steel armor and 45 mm of aluminum. These figures, of course, can change by several percent in one direction or another depending on the grades of steel and aluminum alloys used today, but they give the general picture. Can be used.

Source:
V. Z. Vishnevsky, F. K. Zakirov, I. A. Levin. Study of anti-splinter resistance of armor plates for lightly armored VGM/ V. Z. Vishnevsky, F. K. Zakirov, I. A. Levin // Issues of defense equipment. – 1979. – No. 86.
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  1. +7
    21 November 2024 06: 06
    Interesting article! hi
    Now the approach to designing the BMP-3 hull is clear. And the M-113 armored personnel carrier. If it is clear what we are talking about...
    1. 0
      21 November 2024 16: 35
      One of the ways to support a tank attack is to attack tanks and fire a barrage with movement of fire. In front of BT... and there are specific standards - how many meters from tanks such a strike should be carried out and how many for mixed Tank-BMP
  2. +2
    21 November 2024 07: 46
    That is, the experimental conditions were far from “greenhouse” - when artillery shells detonate in a real battle, equipment is exposed to lesser impact from the shrapnel flow.


    Not quite so. It was an imitation of an air burst. In a real battle, this is possible when shooting on ricochets or with a remote fuse (tube)
    1. -1
      21 November 2024 10: 54
      Setting up a remote detonator so that the detonation occurs at the ideal height and location is also something that belongs to the realm of fantasy.
      1. +4
        21 November 2024 11: 24
        Yeah. Without nano robots and reptilians, this is absolutely impossible. It's a pity that the Americans and the British didn't know about this. And since 1943, they've been churning out radio detonators by the tens of millions.
        1. -1
          21 November 2024 11: 37
          Yeah, it's elementary simple - make it so that the explosion occurs at a height of 2 m from the surface))) not higher and not lower, otherwise the effect will not be the same. Radar fuses, American, model 1943 - this is a completely different song, it has nothing to do with our question at all.
          1. +1
            21 November 2024 16: 09
            Quote: TermNachTER
            Radar fuses, American, model 1943 - that's a completely different story, and has nothing to do with our question.

            This is exactly the same song - controlled altitude of shell detonation. If I remember correctly, the Americans used OFS with radio fuses on land back in the Ardennes operation.
            1. +2
              21 November 2024 20: 04
              Go to Wikipedia and read about the operating principle of a radar fuse.
      2. +3
        21 November 2024 11: 32
        Quote: TermNachTER
        Setting up a remote detonator so that the detonation occurs at the ideal height and location is also something that belongs to the realm of fantasy.

        Well, it's not for nothing that "Artillery is the god of war" smile
        But in fact, for those who know, there are no difficulties.
        1. 0
          21 November 2024 11: 38
          Tell me briefly how to make the fuse work 20 km away at exactly 2 m. t of the surface. Higher and lower, the effect will be the same.
          1. +1
            21 November 2024 13: 06
            Quote: TermNachTER
            in a nutshell,

            Take a number from the plate, enter the setting into the fuse and the projectile will explode at the optimal height.
            There are plenty of examples in the movies: anti-aircraft guns working on aircraft in WWII
            1. 0
              21 November 2024 13: 11
              I repeat the question - the accuracy will be 2 m. ? Let's take a conditional BMP - 2, height 2 m. Error + or - 2 m. Means that the shell will explode in the ground, the main part will remain there, or at a height of 4 m. - most of the fragments will go into the void. Maximum,
              if someone was on the armor, the blast wave will blow them away, but these are not shrapnel at all. So, what is the result?
              1. -1
                21 November 2024 16: 15
                Quote: TermNachTER
                Let's take a conventional BMP-2, height 2 m. Error + or - 2 m. Means that the shell will explode in the ground, the main part will remain there, or at a height of 4 m. - most of the fragments will go into the void.

                If the radio fuse works, having in the DN / arrival area of ​​the BMP, then the optimal fragmentation field will be formed at the level of the roof of the BMP - that is, where it is necessary. If it works, having the ground in the arrival area - then the fragmentation field will be formed at the level of the ground (it has already missed the BMP anyway - there is none in the arrival area).
                The radio fuse measures the relative distance between itself and the surface within the DN and is triggered at approximately the same height difference.
                1. 0
                  21 November 2024 20: 06
                  What is a radio fuse?))) What radio station activates it? R - 123?)))
                  1. 0
                    22 November 2024 08: 13
                    The operating principle is based on receiving a signal reflected from the target: the fuse sensor is a version of a radar, that is, a radio transmitter and radio receiver combined into one unit.

                    Is this clearer or did I still not get it?
                    1. -1
                      22 November 2024 09: 10
                      And who will illuminate the IR-pulses of the BMP, which is 20 km away from you?))) I know very well what the Mk. 53 radar fuse is, we learned it in the naval school. And what is a radio fuse? Explain )))
                      1. +2
                        22 November 2024 13: 40
                        i.e combined into one block radio transmitter and radio receiver.

                        As an example, you can study the device for example-
                        Artillery radio fuse AR-5. In which is located as a component element
                        Fuse AR-5 non-contact, radar
                        activity
                        with duplicate striking mechanism


                        Did you graduate from the naval academy? Or did you just attend?
                      2. +1
                        22 November 2024 15: 51
                        Go to Wikipedia and read about the Doppler effect. It is not radar, and has very little to do with radio. Secondly, the service manual does not specify the accuracy of the hit.
                      3. +2
                        22 November 2024 16: 47
                        No, I knew that Russia had never been a maritime country. But what so The quality of education at the naval school was poor.
                        Pulse Doppler Radar - This is a radar system., in which the determination of the range to the target is performed by measuring the delay time of the probing signal reflected from it, and the determination of the target's speed is performed by the frequency shift of the reflected signal, which occurs as a result of the Doppler effect. Such radar combines the functions of pulse radars and continuous-wave radars, which were previously separated due to the difficulty of joint implementation on the then existing element base.

                        And the fact that they didn’t use it for laboratory tests full-time a radio fuse from a howitzer. And something specially riveted, with greater precision, but on the same principle. You can't figure it out?
                        And stop jumping around on topics. You don't have radio fuses. Doppler radar is not radiolocation. The standard radio fuse doesn't have laboratory accuracy.

                        I translate into nautical language: "Stop wagging like a camp boat."
                      4. 0
                        22 November 2024 17: 01
                        I'll explain in Russian: "No need to be a fool))) I know what a pulse-Doppler radar is. What does it have to do with what we were talking about? This radar "illuminates" the target for the projectile?))) 1. What is the accuracy of the hit? I read the manual of the AR-5 service, there is nothing said about this. And the fact that the AR-5 is triggered by a metal mass flying nearby, so it could be a metal garage or a bus.
                      5. 0
                        25 November 2024 08: 12
                        What do you know there? And who claimed this?
                        Go to Wikipedia and read about the Doppler effect. It's not radar, and it has very little to do with radio.

                        And then suddenly
                        ) I know what a pulse-Doppler radar is.

                        How is that?

                        You haven't read the AR-5 manual. Or you haven't made it past page 5. Because page 6 shows a diagram of a device that, according to you, doesn't exist, a radio detonator.
                        You wrote this
                        ) I know very well what a Mk. 53 radar fuse is, we learned about it in naval school. But what is a radio fuse? Please explain ))


                        Okay, I'll show you this diagram.
                        maybe at least it will get through that there is no and never was a separate radar. And that the projectile itself is a source of radiation.

                        In short. Everything is clear with you. You have never read anything except 3 books (the ABC book, the second one and the blue one) and you have never finished 2 corridors.
                        There is no point in wasting time on you.
                      6. +1
                        25 November 2024 09: 04
                        I repeat the question - what is the accuracy of the AR-5 fuse? I read the entire service manual for the AR-5 and looked at the diagram. This is not a diagram - it is a very simple drawing. A diagram is when diodes, transistors, capacitors, etc. are drawn. Then it is clear what comes from where and where it goes. So, what do we have? A fuse that goes off when a large mass of iron flies past. And if this is not an BMP-2, but an old leaky boiler from a women's bathhouse?))) It is about the same size and made of iron. Option No. 2. Shot - while the projectile flies 20 km, the BMP has traveled 100 m. What will be the accuracy of the hit? Most likely, the fuse will not go off.
                      7. 0
                        25 November 2024 09: 52
                        You don't know other types of circuits except transistors? Well, single-line, functional, block diagram, skeleton diagram, executive diagram?
                        if you don't understand the functional diagram, then you won't understand the basic diagram either. And don't talk nonsense here. However, if you call the functional diagram
                        This is not a diagram - it is a very simple drawing.
                        Then you don't understand anything about radio engineering or technology in general.
                        Do you also want to scan and post page 8 of the manual? Where the operating principle is described in black and white. At the same time, show where you found the applied condition there.
                        A fuse that is triggered when a large mass of iron passes by.

                        And now a control question. Are you aware that for radar the presence of a large amount of iron in an object is not necessary?
                        Or is everything that is not made of pure cast iron not visible on the radar?
                        And don't beat around the bush. No one made this fuse for shooting at a moving target. It shouldn't react to an infantry fighting vehicle. And it shouldn't select targets either. For it, an infantry fighting vehicle, an old boiler, or a barn roof are all the same vegetable.
                        the question came up like this

                        Tell me in a few words how to make the detonator work 20 km away at a height of exactly 2 m.t from the surface.

                        Whose words are these?
                        There was no talk about how far a conventional infantry fighting vehicle could travel there.

                        You've already lied your way out. Go sail6 further into the sea or wherever you were released from the nautical school. Although I wouldn't trust such people even with rubber duckies in the bathtub.
                      8. -1
                        25 November 2024 10: 11
                        Boy, with your level of knowledge - work as a nanny in a kindergarten, for underdeveloped children. Did you rip off some nonsense from Wikipedia and present it as the ultimate truth?))) I don't see the point in continuing the discussion, the IQ levels are completely different)))
                      9. +1
                        25 November 2024 10: 15
                        Yeah. About IQ, that's spot on:)))
                        Go and launch ducks in your reality where there are no radio fuses, shells with radio fuses definitely need a separate radar. And the radar only reacts to pieces of cast iron 5x5x5 kilometers. And the Doppler effect is not used in radar at all
                        Although you may have difficulties with the ducks. There is no diagram with transistors there:)))
                      10. +1
                        22 November 2024 16: 50
                        The Doppler effect is radar, or rather it is used in it. The target speed is measured thanks to it. Unfortunately, I don’t remember the exact figures for the frequency increment.
                      11. 0
                        22 November 2024 16: 55
                        The Doppler effect is used in many places, not just in radar.
                      12. +2
                        22 November 2024 17: 15
                        You can't argue with that. Indeed, there are many places. A radio fuse, it is used on anti-aircraft missiles, reacts not to the mass of the target but to the magnitude of the reflected signal. A kind of threshold scheme, exceeded the threshold and explosion. For shells it was used in the early stages, now, as sources claim, something like a revolution counter is used.
                      13. +1
                        22 November 2024 17: 17
                        The old traffic police radars, although they are not radars, also used the Doppler effect.
                      14. -1
                        25 November 2024 10: 16
                        P.S. Regarding the radar fuse - the American Mk. 53 and its Soviet analogues. It was triggered by a pulse reflected from the target, and the size and mass of the target were not particularly important. But the radar operator saw the target and gave the targeting instructions to the gunners, and the fuse was triggered later, on approach. And here, they are trying to prove to me that you can hit a 20-liter bucket without looking from 10 km away))))
                      15. 0
                        25 November 2024 16: 27
                        I read, though a long time ago, the history of the appearance of this detonator. The bucket is of course overkill, but the probability of hitting the target when using it has increased.
  3. 0
    21 November 2024 11: 18
    Is this, by any chance, a test of the famous tactic of attacking tank units under the cover of artillery during air gaps?
    When attacking tanks under the cover of a mobile fire zone in air gaps.
    When motorized rifle units attack a BMP (APC), fire is conducted by four artillery groups. The battalions of the first and second artillery groups fire shells with a remote tube. In this case, the attacking tanks are directly under the explosions of their shells. The third and fourth groups fire high-explosive fragmentation shells with an impact fuse when set to fragmentation action. To ensure firing at air gaps, immediately on the lines in front of the attacking tanks, it is necessary to have four lines in each group of lines and transfer fire in depth by rolling through one line. The transfer of fire from the first line in each group of lines is carried out on the command (signal) of the commander of the combined arms unit when the attacking tank units enter the zone of explosions of this line. On this signal, the battalions of the first and third artillery groups transfer fire. Subsequent transfers of fire by the battalions of all artillery groups are carried out according to time.
  4. +2
    21 November 2024 11: 21
    This is for solid monolithic armor. This has not been used for a long time. The picture changes when using spaced or combined armor. The same Bradley has a "layered cake" of armor protection. Which makes it a very difficult target.
    But in any case, the article gives a certain idea and is very useful for understanding the basics of armor systems.
    For more such articles.
    1. 0
      21 November 2024 16: 17
      Quote: Single-n
      This is for solid monolithic armor. . This has not been used for a long time. The picture changes when using spaced or combined armor.

      In the frontal and side projection - yes. But the projectile flies from above. How is the roof protection on the BTT?
      1. 0
        22 November 2024 08: 16
        varies. from 16 to 40 mm.
  5. +3
    21 November 2024 12: 35
    Very interesting and thanks to the author. Only the place of two figures I think was exchanged. The 100 mm fragment turned out to be more nailable than the 152 mm one.
    For some tanks (in the roof) the shrapnel penetration is also sufficient - for example the German Panther from the Second World War.
    The effect of a direct hit from a HE shell on armor is also very interesting.
  6. +3
    21 November 2024 13: 26
    Quote: TermNachTER
    I repeat the question - the accuracy will be 2 m. ? Let's take a conditional BMP-2, height 2 m. Error + or - 2 m. Means that the shell will explode in the ground, the main part will remain there, or at a height of 4 m. - most of the fragments will go into the void.

    If the accuracy is 2 meters, why will the installation be at 2 meters, and not, for example, at 3 meters?
    And why at a height of 4 meters most of the fragments "go into the void". Where the fragments go depends on the angle of the fragments, the angle of the fall or ricochet of the projectile and the location of the explosion in relation to the target. With a higher explosion, a more horizontal projection of the target is often revealed, which improves the effect.
  7. +1
    21 November 2024 15: 56
    That is, the experimental conditions were far from “greenhouse”

    In a real battle, the speed of fragments of a shell exploding in front of a target will be greater by exactly the speed of the shell, which is hundreds of meters per second.
  8. 0
    21 November 2024 15: 59
    strange. from 100mm shells the difference in thickness of aluminum/steel is three times, and from 152mm less than twice
    1. +1
      21 November 2024 20: 29
      from 100mm shells the difference is...

      The graphs are mixed up, the top one refers to 152, and the bottom one to 100 mm.
  9. +1
    21 November 2024 16: 48
    Bottom line: aluminum armor with equal durability does not provide any gain in weight!
    1. 0
      25 December 2024 01: 15
      But aluminum armor doesn't rust!
  10. 0
    21 November 2024 23: 34
    The article is interesting, but the armor resistance graphs for 100mm and 152mm projectiles are mixed up, which many have already noticed. But the general conclusion has long been known: to protect against fragments from 105-120mm projectiles, 15mm armor is needed, and from 152mm, at least 25mm armor is required. This can be seen by looking at the armor of the Gvozdika and Akatsiya. By the way, for the same reason, the armor of our BMP-1 and BMP-2 is considered insufficient today; now the main caliber of artillery has become 152-155mm, and 15mm armor does not hold such fragments well.
    1. -1
      22 November 2024 18: 18
      Considering that high-precision and self-guided shells have appeared, we are not talking about shrapnel.
      And about the hit of a whole shell.
      1. +1
        23 November 2024 02: 21
        Quote: Maxim G
        And about the hit of a whole shell.

        There is no armor if hit by a whole shell.
        1. 0
          23 November 2024 03: 33
          What and speech.
          Quote: Saxahorse
          There is no armor if hit by a whole shell.
  11. 0
    22 November 2024 06: 37
    Considering that the density of steel is three times higher than the density of aluminum... Why hasn't anyone tried making tanks out of aluminum? Judging by this material, the idea is worthwhile.

    It would also be good to know the comparative characteristics of stopping a crowbar and a cumulative jet, then we can make some serious estimates.