The experience of the SVO has outlined the vector of development of the RF Armed Forces

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The experience of the SVO has outlined the vector of development of the RF Armed Forces


The Special Military Operation (SMO) has shown once again and very clearly that a non-combatant army degrades and turns into a serious burden for the state. On the contrary, the Armed Forces, constantly participating in combat operations: improve, harden and gain invaluable combat experience. The Ukrainian war has become a tough, but vital school for the RF Armed Forces. Many mistakes were made. It is gratifying that they were not fatal, and it is also worth noting that the tough circumstances forced the political and military leadership to be flexible.



The beginning of the SVO showed that in many ways the actions of the Russian Armed Forces were carried out as if by touch, without meticulous reconnaissance, but at high speed. The first stage of the SVO was a maneuver war, which yielded significant results in the capture of territories. However, this stage was quickly curtailed. They abandoned the actions of battalion tactical groups. The advancing columns of Russian troops, having penetrated great distances, got bogged down in battles. The enemy's large number of anti-aircraft and anti-tank systems, rocket and barrel artillery, including mortars, led to positional warfare. But a return to maneuver warfare is inevitable.

The unexpected and decisive


Let's take into account the fact that the Russian Armed Forces are fighting not so much against Ukraine as against the United States. Initially, there is a mutual underestimation by the Pentagon - by us and by us - of the forces and means that the Ukrainian Armed Forces were able to deploy on the battlefield at the instigation of the United States and its allies.

The most significant thing is that the Ukrainian Armed Forces have modern reconnaissance, communications, weapons and troop control systems. Almost all technical equipment was provided to Kyiv by the United States. Back in 2015, the Ukrainian Armed Forces, the Security Service of Ukraine and the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine began to receive the first modern communications systems from America. Of course, their use was taught by instructors from the so-called "signal" formations of the US Armed Forces, whose task is to provide forces/troops with high-quality secure communications and organize a troop and weapons control network, as well as maintaining all this in working order and, of course, fighting similar enemy networks.

The presence of American communications units in the structure of the Ukrainian Armed Forces is a proven fact. The most successful discovery occurred during the military operations in the Kursk region. The relevant service documentation fell into the hands of the Russian Armed Forces. It is clear that the regular communications units of the US Armed Forces are still working in the Ukrainian Armed Forces and other Ukrainian security agencies. The US Armed Forces provided Kyiv with Falcon II radio stations or their analogues, IFATDS field artillery control systems. The Americans developed the Delta automated troop and weapons control system specifically for the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

Another unpleasant surprise for the Russians was the well-established military intelligence of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, both technical and intelligence. Of course, the development of Ukrainian special services was carried out under the strict guidance of the American intelligence community, and the British also took an active part in this. Ukrainian military headquarters are literally teeming with American and NATO officers. Western military advisers are sometimes part of the brigade command. Under such circumstances, of course, the Ukrainian Armed Forces receive the latest satellite information about the position and condition of our troops. Apparently, military planning for the Ukrainian Armed Forces is mainly carried out by the American command, it is possible that Ukrainian generals are allowed to show initiative only within the framework of the plan developed by the Pentagon. It turns out that not only the Russian Armed Forces are gaining combat experience, but also our enemies from overseas. The latter do not limit themselves to anything in their training and sacrifice the lives of hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian soldiers for it.

The Pentagon has a long history of using commercial contractors to obtain intelligence information. In this case, Elon Musk's Starlink internet project is actively exploited. By early spring 2023, it included more than 3000 satellites located in low orbits of various orientations. The Ukrainian Armed Forces and other Ukrainian security forces received thousands of Starlink terminals, which allowed them to conduct reconnaissance and provide communications between different branches of the armed forces throughout the theater of operations.

But that's not all


News, which broke much of what was previously unshakable in the idea of ​​war, became flying drones. The US has been using these toys for military purposes for several decades, both reconnaissance and strike, quite effectively. Just ten years ago, the leadership of the Russian Armed Forces did not consider them as serious weapons capable of dramatically affecting the situation on the battlefield. Now they have to pay for it. And it would seem that there is nothing special about it - a simple commercial FPV drone. But it turned out to be formidable weapons. Yes, undoubtedly, a fat point on the use of such combat formations as: a rifle chain, a combat line of vehicles - was put by other means of destruction: high-precision ATGMs, small automatic weapons equipped with modern optics, including those capable of calculating the lead for the aiming point depending on the movement of the target, air conditions, direction and speed of the wind. But, it was the drone that finally buried the old combat formation. Small in size, cheap and easy to operate, it became a powerful addition to field artillery. Drones can carry dropped ammunition or have a warhead themselves and be ammunition. The new weapon also forced us to reconsider the attitude to the protection of armored vehicles. Funny, when viewed from the outside, designs appeared, supplemented with a net and a standard mask. But without them, armored vehicles with their high-tech protection would have to be sent to the dump stories.

We will talk about new combat formations of infantry and armored vehicles separately. Now we are talking about drones. A new stage of their combat use was not long in coming - these are swarming drones, in the control of which artificial intelligence takes part. On the basis of flying drones or UAVs, loitering munitions were created, capable of covering distances from several kilometers to 2000 km or more. In combat aviation Heavy drones of operational and strategic levels have become firmly established. The air forces of leading military powers have already created formations of heavy unmanned aircraft for both reconnaissance and strike. Reconnaissance has become more accurate. The fog of war has now been virtually dispelled and remains, as a force majeure factor, only occasionally.

Further development of swarming loitering munitions systems included, for example, the Chinese COEG and CH-901, which, with further development, are capable of replacing TOS, ATGMs, tactical MLRS and field tube artillery, including mortars. We have not yet mentioned wheeled, tracked and walking drones, which have been widely used and rapidly developed recently. This equipment is definitely in demand on the battlefield. At present, its use is more proactive.

It is necessary to clearly integrate these devices into the new structure of the ground forces, which will ensure their most effective use.


Coming changes


Drones and the modern theater of operations are transforming aviation and the military fleet, but this is a topic for a separate article. As has already been said earlier, the realities of the battlefield have significantly influenced the construction of the combat formations of the ground forces. This fact cannot be ignored in their structure. A clear segmentation of light and heavy motorized infantry is overdue. A clear definition of the place is also necessary tanks in modern combat. Definitely, "barbecues" are a temporary solution to protect equipment from drones, they will have to be disposed of. The solution to the problem will most likely not be the means EW, and swarms of drones are designed to protect battle formations from enemy UAVs.

Heavy infantry will have to be placed on heavy infantry fighting vehicles/armored personnel carriers with armor close to that of tanks. Each such vehicle, when moving across the battlefield, must be accompanied by air cover from swarms of drones performing reconnaissance tasks, engaging the enemy, and protecting their own forces. To ensure safety from antitank mines, each combat unit will have to be equipped with additional appropriate equipment.

The crews of the infantry fighting vehicles/armored personnel carriers will have to include a drone operator and the vehicles will have to be equipped with appropriate equipment for controlling both air and ground forces. dronesOther options are also possible: to organize drone operators into regular units and allocate them separate equipment and their own place in the combat formation.

Light infantry should be made maneuverable and provided with buggies, ATVs and motorcycles as means of transportation. This, however, has already been partly done, but not as a rule, but as an exception and was not reflected in the BUSV. It remains to solve a not very difficult problem, how to fire at the enemy and control a motorcycle or ATV at the same time. Small arms can be placed on an adapted mount for manipulation next to the steering wheel, and their control can be displayed on the windshield of the fighter's helmet, like a military pilot. Maneuverable launch systems of loitering munitions such as the Chinese CH-901 are more suitable for fire support of light infantry. Also, the attack of light infantry should definitely be covered by swarming drones.

That is, its units will have to have regular UAV formations. Of course, the workload in organizing and managing the battle on company and battalion commanders will increase significantly. Therefore, there is already an urgent need to ensure this tactical level of automated control systems. Companies will have to be enlarged to five platoons, but it is worth it. The structure of these units must include a UAV platoon and a medical and material support platoon, again equipped with controlled ground equipment, air and wheeled, and tracked unmanned vehicles. This rear platoon is designed to evacuate the wounded from the battlefield and provide comprehensive support to personnel on the front line. To carry everything needed to support the battle to the front line, and the wounded to the rear. The presence of such a unit will significantly reduce losses. Separate UAV units must already be available in battalions, regiments, brigades and divisions.

Current combat formations, in which infantry operates in a highly dispersed, small group, are cemented by aerial drones. Providing reconnaissance of the enemy and the terrain, communications and fire support, including protection from enemy UAVs. The era of swarming drones and high-precision loitering munitions capable of searching for and destroying targets in real time is coming. And these swarms will become a good protective umbrella for infantry on the battlefield in the wars of the future.

Tanks and field artillery


Tanks have lost their main function as a striking force, have turned into slow-moving "sheds on tracks" and perform the role of self-propelled field artillery. But the opportunity to return tanks to their former combat power has not been missed. It is time to implement the "digital tank" concept. The same applies to self-propelled artillery. Most likely, we will have to abandon transportable and towed guns.

Digital tanks, MLRS and SPGs will not need these awkward homemade structures for protection against drones. The role of a protective umbrella will be performed by swarms of UAVs accompanying these vehicles on the battlefield. In addition, not all tanks and SPGs will be piloted, most of them will be unmanned. The concept of using BMPT tanks in combat formations is excellent, it just requires some refinement. Also, on the battlefield, full-size combat vehicles will be accompanied by smaller robotic systems that are not affected by anti-tank mines. This will speed up the movement of the tank fist and ensure its greater effectiveness.

It would be reasonable to place the operators of unmanned vehicles in some BMPTs, and UAVs would provide signal retransmission. All vehicles would have to be equipped with antitank missile defense systems, which would increase the combat effectiveness of each unit. In such conditions, the workload of technical personnel would increase significantly and they would have to be included in the staff of tank companies and artillery divisions, which would be provided with additional transport for moving ammunition and fuel to refueling and reloading points.

To ensure the protection of armored vehicles, infantry, self-propelled tube and rocket artillery, many, many swarming drones controlled by artificial intelligence and equipped with a friend-or-foe recognition system (FOR) will be needed, which is extremely important. In combat conditions, cases of mixing of our and the enemy's combat formations are not excluded - this is where the FOR will play its key role as a means of reconnaissance and defeat of the enemy.

As for walking drones: those that closely resemble dogs have already found combat use; they can be armed in the same way as drone-copters: with machine guns, sniper rifles, and anti-tank weapons. Drone-dogs can be good assistants for military reconnaissance units.

Android robots are on the way. But their appearance on the battlefield is not a matter of such a near future. They are too expensive to produce, a living human soldier is still much cheaper for the military budget, no matter how cynical it may sound.

It is quite obvious that commercial drones are not very suitable for military use. Specific equipment is needed and, as was said earlier, the production volumes must be quite large. In the realities of the SVO, the consumption of drones per year exceeds 1 million units. A war with an enemy better equipped than the Armed Forces of Ukraine will require large resources. In addition, drones are the kind of equipment that requires constant updating and development. It turns out that it will be necessary to create appropriate troops and an industry for the development and production of drones and protective equipment. And most importantly, this should have been taken care of yesterday.
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  1. +18
    17 November 2024 04: 52
    The first condition is to reconsider the movement along the military vertical. So that the nerd commanders advance, and not the brave soldiers whose main skill is to kick here and suck up there.
    The rest will follow.
    1. -5
      17 November 2024 07: 28
      Quote: Prokop_Svinin
      The first condition is to reconsider the movement along the military vertical. So that the nerd commanders advance, and not the brave soldiers whose main skill is to kick here and suck up there.

      The mafia is immortal.
    2. +28
      17 November 2024 12: 07
      It is difficult to read this CRAP in the article. Another narrow-minded thinker. SVO is the way it should not be. People who initially had no idea about Modern Warfare staged a stupid, long-term, brainless massacre using mini-drones, terrorist weapons and special forces. And now they are drawing deep conclusions from this mess and determining the development trends of the Army, unprepared for SV, for the future. What experience are we talking about? Yes, this operation shows certain SV trends. But they have long been known, they were simply not noticed, or rather ignored. Read our Military Doctrine, everything is written there, and this was in 2014. And nothing has been done.
      Combat operations in the Ground Forces are based on advanced technical means of reconnaissance and target designation in real time, from tactical to global, which are combined and complement each other with the help of modern means of communication and information processing... And we? We found a site where we can do without them and arranged a massacre with the help of mini-drones, and on the contrary, the same...
      1. +14
        17 November 2024 17: 15
        The main discovery of the SVO is the presence of a large number of absolutely unteachable reactionaries who are absolutely confident in their own rightness.
        1. +12
          17 November 2024 20: 23
          This is a "permanent" opening of every war/military action/counter-terrorist operation/NVO (insert as needed) from our field marshals from the Arbat Military District.
          Any developments on past military actions are immediately forgotten (but why bother, we won). Commanders who showed themselves excellently during combat operations and who know how to fight skillfully rather than kiss their superiors' asses are immediately pushed "behind the closet" because they do not know how to report correctly to their superiors and are generally too impudent with their superiors.
          And again duckweed in the swamp and the croaking of fat toads. Until the next war and then everything starts all over again...
          Do you think I'm making this up? Here's an example. Already during the Great Patriotic War, our tank crews, having encountered Faustniks, hung homemade screens on the sides and front of their tanks. Several years passed after the Great Patriotic War, but tanks/IFVs, as they were produced without screens, continued to be produced in this form until recently, with rare exceptions...
      2. -2
        17 November 2024 17: 54
        It is very difficult for modern detection means, including satellite ones, to detect plastic mopeds. Almost impossible. And it is even more difficult to act on them promptly. Explain on what principles, in your opinion, should the counteraction system be built? Popularly on the fingers, I am not an expert. hi
        1. +4
          17 November 2024 18: 13
          It is not the "mopeds" that should be destroyed, but the means on which they advance, at a considerable distance from the conventional demarcation line, not to mention tanks, installations, armored personnel carriers, etc., as well as groups of people with equipment. In Iraq, columns of government troops were destroyed so that they did not even see the enemy. What year is this?
          1. -2
            17 November 2024 18: 18
            The means on which they advance can be a regular civilian low-slung vehicle, in which a nerd with not very bulky equipment. Will you hammer everything, indiscriminately?

            First, Iraq's air defense was destroyed, and only then, yes, from above, with impunity.
          2. +5
            17 November 2024 18: 21
            What year is this?

            Only to disrupt the work of Iraq's air defense, 4700 sorties were flown in the first two days of the operation, of which 2775 were flown in the first day. In total, the coalition carried out more than 100 sorties.
            1. +5
              17 November 2024 18: 24
              Now compare our resources, especially intelligence... Ukraine is bigger than Iraq.
              1. 0
                17 November 2024 18: 26
                Now compare our resources, especially intelligence... Ukraine is bigger than Iraq.

                Moreover, the Russian Federation did not supply weapons to Iraq to make up for losses, and the Aerospace Forces group is much smaller than the combined air forces of the coalition.
                1. +4
                  17 November 2024 18: 36
                  Quote: strannik1985
                  And Russia did not supply weapons to Iraq.

                  А зря.
                2. 0
                  18 November 2024 00: 44
                  And I still don't understand a damn thing and didn't get any answers to my question. They threw in some bare minuses, without any specifics. It would have been better if they had explained it in detail. So we should understand that it's a piece of cake to detect a moped from a satellite and radar? And I heard that they are detected on LBS by sound or visually, with their drones, as they approach. And if an operator is sitting in a civilian car, and there are five more driving nearby, do we kill them all? Enlighten me.
                  1. +3
                    18 November 2024 14: 59
                    Quote: Essex62
                    I heard that they are detected on the LBS by sound or visually,

                    The Ukrainian Armed Forces have placed multidirectional microphones on cell towers and, according to their data, they are very effective in detecting the direction of our Geranium-type UAVs and cruise missiles. It is very effective as an early warning system for air defense systems. At the last Dronnitsa, this issue was raised very seriously, a report was made that we also need the same acoustic direction finding system, not only in the SVO zone and in the territories adjacent to it, but also on a national scale for the future. Because ground-based radars only see targets in the line of sight during WWI (15-20-35 km, depending on the position and height of the radar), and small UAVs made of cardboard and plastic are even worse. But cell towers are everywhere and installing microphones with spectral filters on them, tied to regional servers and included in the air defense early detection and warning circuit, would be extremely useful and necessary. And for this purpose it would be worthwhile to include in the air defense units an acoustic direction finding service as part of the RIC of these units. The adoption of such measures and changes in the staffing schedules in the air defense units would be a very timely and useful solution to the problem of early detection and warning of the flight of UAVs, cruise missiles and enemy aircraft during WWI in conditions of insufficient radar field density at these altitudes. A very effective network structure of early detection/warning would be obtained. There are few technical difficulties here, only Will, active and proactive performers and appropriate funding are needed. And changes/additions to the organizational structure of the Air Defense Forces.
                    1. +1
                      19 November 2024 02: 14
                      Thanks for the detailed answer. hi
          3. 0
            19 November 2024 11: 39
            You are a theoretician and dreamer from the 30s. Templates and slogans are all "intelligence, target designation, interaction"... Add "rapid onslaught", "endure hardships and deprivations" and "shut your mouth and read BUSV in all its sections". Wake up already.
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        2. +4
          17 November 2024 20: 03
          There are limits to what is possible for everything.
          Yes, the satellite does not notice plastic toys.
          But can he notice the fuel trucks?
          First, do what is within the limits of possibility.
          First of all, disrupt the enemy's logistics.
          Specifically against drones - you need to invest money in specialists, clearly formulate the technical specifications.
          For example: create a system of sensors that detect the location of drone operators, or a remote command center.
          And let the engineers develop pencil-sized sensors that can be used to "seed" enemy territory, and read data from this network and analyze it.
          Give money to three lieutenants with higher technical education to develop tactics for further reconnaissance and destruction of the "wasp nests" of drone operators.
          1. +3
            17 November 2024 20: 40
            And these sensors need a detonation system so that they don’t get collected like mushrooms.
          2. 0
            17 November 2024 21: 54
            I agree with the comment. But I have an addition and a question. It's the 21st century now. Space probes fly to other planets and transmit the composition of the planet's soil and atmosphere. Are military satellites capable of this? Can they analyze the presence of metal concentrations, diesel fumes, and exhaust gases? Can they determine the concentration of carbon dioxide emitted by personnel? Or is it emitted only by cows? And they were accused of global warming! What about these parameters? Anyone in the know, please respond!
            1. 0
              19 November 2024 12: 01
              What is the metal concentration? Orbital radar has limited effectiveness, optics have been working for a long time. Atmospheric monitoring has been going on for a long time, but not everything is applicable in combat conditions, especially on LBS, where everything is constantly moving, there are few static objects, and no one gathers so many soldiers together that their farts can be used to draw conclusions ))))) Probes were flying and analyzing lunar soil forty years ago. But these are unique, insanely expensive toys for science.
              1. 0
                19 November 2024 20: 41
                Strange! A balanced comment, but they gave it a minus. A plus from me! Although I have a question. Science is an expensive thing. But after so many years of space flights, technology has developed! It was unprofitable to make reusable first stages. However, Musk breaks the usual ideas!
          3. +1
            19 November 2024 11: 47
            Yes, "a satellite can do everything" and "electronic warfare will put everything down" - that's what they thought. But in fact, they transport troops and fuel on civilian transport, including trains and ships under foreign flags, and they can't hit - it's humanism and in general, we are still fighting with "national battalions and militants", and not with the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the entire state of Ukraine, which, in fact, is just a tool and fodder for NATO. Why do they call the servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine militants in all the programs? And the national battalions, as a fact, have long since disappeared - the Armed Forces of Ukraine have long been one big national battalion.
            1. 0
              19 November 2024 20: 49
              I agree with your comment! I also don't understand the interpretation of militants and terrorists in relation to the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Ukronazis are more accurate. Ukro-separatists are also correct. Ukraine is a historical territory of Russia. And Ukraine's exit from the USSR, and therefore from Russia, is pure separatism! Well, some comrades gathered to sign a separatist agreement. Does it have legal force? Independent Ukraine? And who paid Ukraine's debts? Independent Ukraine? And if Ukraine is independent, then another question arises. Why should an independent country join the EU? They are independent, aren't they?
      3. 0
        17 November 2024 21: 19
        Dear Commander! Very appropriate and correct...
    3. +1
      17 November 2024 12: 16
      "To get the nerdy commanders moving forward, .."
      Have you noticed that Putin promotes SVO heroes to civil service positions, "Time of Heroes", and not to military positions. Commanders who know how to fight are removed from SVO, and the generals who allowed the seizure of Kursk land, no one was even punished!
      1. +2
        17 November 2024 16: 27
        Quote: steel maker
        Have you noticed that Putin is promoting SVO heroes to government positions?

        Yeah. For some physical education and cultural positions. It was clear from the start that this whole pompous program was just bullshit and no one was going to give him real power.
        1. 0
          17 November 2024 22: 14
          There were Heroes of the LPR and DPR! They were somehow strangely and very amicably liquidated by the Ukrainian Armed Forces! What is this? The SVO has begun. Who is a hero of the SVO? How can one define a hero and a rat? The heroes died, but the rats remained? Don't slander?! I'm just curious.
        2. 0
          19 November 2024 21: 32
          "For some physical education and cultural positions"
          Well, if only you, provided that the sofa does not fall apart. There are very worthy examples, do not be lazy, look for them
      2. +5
        17 November 2024 20: 09
        For the sake of "combat veterans" mid-level officials with a service time of one month in the Armed Forces (approximately and naturally not for free) are climbing into the SVO (of course, to the very rear).
        Look on the Internet - they are after political dividends and career growth. For example -
        The head of the Pechora district of the Komi Republic, Valery Serov, is leaving for the SVO zone on October 1. He signed a contract with the Russian Ministry of Defense. The Pechora District Council approved Serov's unpaid leave for six months and retained his post as head of the municipality
        ,
        The first deputy head of the Syktyvkar administration, Aleksandr Mozhegov (under contract with the Ministry of Defense), and the acting Minister of Health, Igor Dyagilev (to serve in a special forces medical detachment), were sent to the SVO.

        The mayor of Vorkuta, Yaroslav Shaposhnikov, went to the SVO to serve under contract, while retaining his post as head of the municipality.

        And this is just one of many regions in 2023, and not all are listed...
        But then comes the “Time of Heroes”, only the “heroes” are still the same, and in the same (or higher) positions - the report before the implementation of the presidential program is completed.
        Yes, there are real Heroes, but in order to prevent all sorts of careerists and "rear rats" from being called "heroes", some kind of filter, selection, or something else is probably needed that would put an end to the use of the SVO for selfish purposes.
        Maybe I wrote it in a confusing way, but -
        After the arrest of Pashayev's ex-lawyer, it turned out that he serves as a tank commander, but has never been in combat with his crew. Since the beginning of summer, the lawyer has not been on the front lines, remaining in the rear.
        and how many did Pashayev "bring" (for a certain amount) through the SVO, how many such "heroes" are there now???
        1. +4
          18 November 2024 00: 27
          If a geostrategist says tomorrow to bet on cosmonauts, everyone will become cosmonauts, even Chaika's son.
      3. +1
        17 November 2024 22: 07
        Well, it seems like they didn't even start any investigation into the seizure of the Kursk region by the Ukrainian Armed Forces! Question: Why? The money for the construction of defensive fortifications according to Mikhalkov was successfully spent! As much as 15 billion! How did these fortifications help the defense against the Ukrainian Armed Forces? And why haven't we been able to recapture the Kursk region since August? The Ukrainian Armed Forces have been building fortifications there for years too? This is just some kind of nightmare! Another question: Why couldn't the Russian army so effectively recapture Russia's historical territories? Did they reach Kyiv? And why did they retreat? Why weren't there such effective attacks later? Were we saving our soldiers? And how many historical territories did we recapture in total after the regrouping? And why is Russia only ready for territories that have passed a referendum? Are we surrendering? Are we giving Russia's historical territories to NATO? What about the Balts? Or are they not Russia's historical territory? What about Kazakhstan? What about Georgia? What about Armenia? Is Azerbaijan Turkish territory?
    4. +6
      17 November 2024 13: 26
      The first condition is to reconsider the movement along the military vertical.

      A proposal to nowhere, and to no one. And what can we do? Return the institution of officers' meetings to the Army and give the officers' meeting an advisory vote. The chairman of the meeting is the commander. The secretary of the meeting is an elected position... The meeting showed itself very strongly in 1989. At a meeting in Moscow, elected delegates recorded the critical state of the army, and addressed the leadership of the USSR Armed Forces with a demand for reforms. One of the reasons for this state was the separation of the general corps from the officer mass. This trend continues to develop to this day. All the documents of this meeting were subsequently forgotten and falsified. Recently there was a dissertation defense on this topic. It is scary to read.
      I'll give you an example: a needed "blatnyy" is promoted to a higher position from above, and the officers' meeting gives him a negative characterization. No commander would promote such a person...
      1. -1
        17 November 2024 14: 20
        Not a proposal, but simply a condition for correct development. The request, first of all, must come from within, and not from an observer.
      2. +3
        17 November 2024 14: 22
        Warmia is a little different. Those who do not give a positive characteristic to the "blatnyy" will not receive it themselves at the right moment. The law, I am the boss - you, worked, works and will work, since we are all people and not robots. Well, "blatnyy" have always been, and it is also difficult to deal with them. There is also a generally little-understood feature for civilians when promoting, namely, promoting fools. A good commander will never give up a good and competent officer or contract soldier. He himself needs
        1. +2
          17 November 2024 15: 25
          But if the latter prepares a replacement for himself, the commander will promote him. I have been in both situations more than once...
          I was a delegate at that meeting! But with the officers' meeting, your fears don't work. Everything is in full view. And activity immediately increases.
          1. +3
            17 November 2024 15: 46
            In the case of a contract soldier, yes. With an officer, everything is more complicated, and it depends on the branch of the military. Regarding the "privileged". In my unit, five people definitely had a "paw" of varying degrees of hairiness and did not hide it. Upon graduation, the "paw" appeared in three more. There are 10 people in the unit, so count. Are you interested in the quality of training at the military university or do you know all this?
            1. +2
              17 November 2024 15: 51
              Well, it's easier for me. I graduated in 1982, aviation engineering, was a sergeant. I know how it should be. Well, I know the rest.
              1. +3
                17 November 2024 17: 26
                I graduated in 1981. Air Defense Command School. We both know how it really was and how it should be. I think you, like me, are not surprised by the thieving Russian generals; after all the “changes,” we won’t have any others, except perhaps for rare exceptions.
    5. 0
      19 November 2024 21: 27
      You are a stupid utopian. In all countries throughout history there have always been those who crawl. Under one pretext or another.
  2. -9
    17 November 2024 04: 54
    Electronic warfare can also be thrown into the "dump"
    he will interfere with his own and attract drones with AI
  3. +8
    17 November 2024 05: 02
    There will be a "war of machines". Then AI will rebel. Another cycle of human presence on EARTH occurs, and he does not become "SMARTER" from this.
    1. -1
      17 November 2024 16: 36
      A beautiful name - "Artificial Intelligence". But in essence it is a program written by a person. If a programmer puts into the program the possibility of self-improvement, self-completion, self-change, then there will be an opportunity to "rebel", arrange a "war of machines" or exterminate humanity. But if he doesn't put it in, then none of this will happen.
      1. 0
        17 November 2024 20: 27
        Quote: Andrey Gladkikh
        A beautiful name - "Artificial Intelligence". But in fact it is a program written by a person.

        But this is the fundamental difference of AI... Because of this difference, special groups are created by AI developers to UNDERSTAND what the AI ​​has learned and why it makes such decisions.
        And with large AIs - by the way - it doesn’t work - they can’t trace all the connections, it’s difficult...
        Alas, this is not a program written by a person... They only put into it a general architecture that facilitates learning... And what will come out - God knows, they are just figuring out what comes out and why...
      2. 0
        18 November 2024 02: 29
        Program failures occur due to circumstances that are not particularly dependent on humans.
  4. +28
    17 November 2024 05: 16
    I was very depressed by the beginning of the SVO, they started well, but then when the enemy came to his senses, miracles began to happen with our politicians and generals, such behavior bordered on mediocrity and betrayal.
    It was obvious that the SVO had not been thought through at all in case of failure and defeat... everything was decided hastily and at random.
    They started the Istanbul negotiations with the Ukrainian Nazis without understanding their future behavior, and withdrew their troops from the captured territories, although they could have followed the example of Kursk and dug into the ground, creating a network of strongholds.
    And when the General Staff announced our losses in the first weeks of the Central Military District, I realized that we had screwed up in all directions.
    Alas, alas... drones are already a classic example of generals' ossified thinking.
    Perhaps only Prigozhin’s PMC, paradoxically enough, turned out to be better prepared for the war of the future.
    But the conflict of interests between a private structure and corrupt Shoigu deputies ruined both Prigozhin and the Wagner PMC and the deputy defense ministers themselves... I am shocked by this development of events.
    Instead of working together to win, the country went to pieces.
    Now, slowly, with a creak, the generals' brains and the politicians' brains have begun to work in the right direction. I hope that all the mistakes and stupidities made at the beginning of the SVO will be discarded and Victory will be ours. The author described only the technical side of the problems... but they are inextricably linked with the political problems in our country.
    1. +21
      17 November 2024 05: 57
      The war is approaching its denouement and is unlikely to last long, all the oaks who were not caught in particularly brazen lies, as in the Seversky direction, will receive awards, new titles and continue preparing for the sovereign's reviews, and those who were caught will be reprimanded a little and return the experienced personnel, they are their own people.
      As for politics, our politics, as we know, are basically impeccable.
      1. +6
        17 November 2024 08: 39
        The conflict will last at least another 6 years, possibly longer.
        Because the measurement that the Russian leadership is counting on has not worked out...
        1. -11
          17 November 2024 10: 15
          Quote: spektr9
          The conflict will last for at least another 6 years,

          Oh well, I think in the spring, maximum in the summer, that's all. I don't know how they'll agree later, but Odessa, Nikolaev and Kharkov are Russian. Europe will pay, but the US will be as always within the limits, but will become poor, maybe that's why they'll split into states.

          I am certainly not Zhirinovsky and certainly not an Orthodox predictor, but this is what will happen unless there is an asteroid, an earthquake, the Gulf Stream leaves the surface, etc.
          1. +6
            17 November 2024 10: 19
            Odessa, Nikolaev and Kharkov are Russian.
            What about the Kursk region?
            Europe will pay the price
            And who will force her?
            1. -14
              17 November 2024 10: 29
              Quote: Bolt Cutter
              What about the Kursk region?

              Firstly, Kursk with a capital letter, and secondly, Russians are a nationality, but first of all, a worldview. For me, Kalmyks, Mordvins, Buryats, Tatars, Chechens, etc. are now Russians, but Ukrainians are not even relatives, as are other Orthodox peoples who betrayed my Russian state: Greeks, Bulgarians, Romanians, Georgians, Finns (they are also officially Orthodox in the EU) and of course Ukrainians and the Russian Orthodox Church Abroad (they betrayed in WWII), and the first were the Greeks immediately after their liberation in the 18th century. You can also mention Armenians, they are not Orthodox but somewhere close
              Quote: Bolt Cutter
              And who will force her?

              Why has butter in Germany increased in price by 38% in a year?
              The US will suck them out, and then where else will they go? Russia and China
              1. +6
                17 November 2024 10: 32
                Butter in Germany has become 38% more expensive in a year?
                In England, after the price increase, butter is slightly cheaper than in Russia. In Germany, it is probably the same. And it hardly plays any role.
                1. -7
                  17 November 2024 10: 35
                  Quote: Bolt Cutter
                  In England, after the price increase, butter is slightly cheaper than in Russia.

                  I'm very glad that you're in the know!
                  How much does it cost to pull the toilet handle in England and Germany?
                  Compare with the Russian Federation? Everything is bad here, including housing and communal services!
                  1. +2
                    17 November 2024 13: 37
                    and we didn't have any running water, a well and a pump, so I pay pennies for housing and communal services and that's just for electricity because there's no gas either, so I'm a total kick-ass, and let the penguins be jealous and Tommy too
                    Quote: bya965
                    Quote: Bolt Cutter
                    In England, after the price increase, butter is slightly cheaper than in Russia.

                    I'm very glad that you're in the know!
                    How much does it cost to pull the toilet handle in England and Germany?
                    Compare with the Russian Federation? Everything is bad here, including housing and communal services!
                    1. -2
                      17 November 2024 16: 35
                      Quote from Mazunga
                      and we had no running water at all, a well

                      How much did you pay for the well? How many years will it take to pay off, 40 or 150?
                      Why are you silent about the sewerage system? The question was about the flush tank.

                      I don't like liars and cheaters! And this category includes liberals, storytellers like you about how good it is to live there but not here, and all sorts of believers.
                      1. +1
                        17 November 2024 16: 37
                        And even fools get there) Go beyond the Moscow Ring Road and look at the Vladimir volost, for example, firewood and wells
                      2. -2
                        17 November 2024 18: 57
                        Quote from Mazunga
                        And even idiots get caught) Go beyond the Moscow Ring Road and take a look at the Vladimir volost, for example

                        Learn Russian, black man. We always helped Africa, there were even Don Cossacks in Ethiopia, but your English masters were against it and our tsars caved in.
                        And there will be no more Ukrainians on Russian land. And that's right!
                      3. +1
                        17 November 2024 19: 00
                        Quote: bya965
                        liberals, storytellers like you how nice it is to live there but not here and all sorts of believers

                        Well, let them live there, no one is stopping these liberals.
                      4. +1
                        17 November 2024 19: 36
                        In Portugal, you don't pay for sewerage and garbage disposal. In Switzerland, you have to pay for garbage disposal, but there was a referendum there that everyone would be paid a certain amount, but they refused. There is no gas there, they don't extract oil.
    2. +14
      17 November 2024 06: 50
      "The beginning of the SVO was very depressing for me"
      Eh, Lyokha, Lyokha... And who wasn't depressed by the fact that, not having a wartime army, we started the SVO with the aim of quickly intimidating the hohols and forcing them to surrender? An adventure? As it turned out, yes. A miscalculation.
      This is the essence, and not some conflict of interests of the allegedly private company Wagner with Shoigu. Have you read the press?
      There was only a name there, for show. But Prigozhin, who was appointed to the head, got out of control...
      An army that does not fight degrades.
      That's true. Including in terms of military discipline. Here we should learn from the Wagners. The development of new weapons forces us to look for new methods of struggle, i.e. to change tactics. And that's true.
      But the verbiage gleaned from the media does not allow us to draw the right conclusions.
      The maneuver war was extremely successful for such a small number of troops; the retreat from Kherson and Badakli and Izyum was caused, first of all, not by the mistakes and skill of the military, but by the failure to carry out mobilization measures in a timely manner, i.e. the creation of a wartime army.
      And there is no need to repeat the stupidity about the BTGr. A BTGr is a reinforced battalion, it is the battalions and companies that fight at the lower level. This is how things are now. Another thing is that there were no full-fledged divisions, brigades and regiments, but there were, in fact, combined detachments.
      As for fantasies about what drone swarms will be, what will be removed from service, what will be adopted, this is a long conversation. And a conversation between experts.
      But it is obvious that the means of destroying small UAVs is now one of the most important issues in ensuring the conduct of offensive operations.
      A comprehensive solution is needed here.
      And various types of electronic warfare, including microwave directed beam, and means of destruction by buckshot, and shells with remote detonation. Both powerful installations on equipment, for example, instead of or together with the ZPU on a tank, and shot cartridges, attachments on weapons for shooting tied buckshot for each infantryman, automatic smooth-bore powerful rifles in the squad and platoon.
      For now we need to do this, and then swarms and antiswarms.
      1. +4
        17 November 2024 13: 46
        they just didn't let us fight at full strength (if they had thrown up bridges in the first days, we would have gone through Sumy and not into the fortifications of Donbass, it would have been different, the javelins would have been of different use if you were cleared with neutrons beforehand, the radiation would have gone away quickly and tanks were driving through the dead fields, it's very nice to get a picture via Starlink and keep in touch, but if they threw down an EMP and everything more complex than a locomotive turned into scraps stinking of burnt plastic, how will you keep in touch with flags? It's very difficult to fight with what you've grabbed in dirty Europe, the guys have to use one hand with their legs tied and constantly be in touch with their dear partners, I won't even write about diesel fuel for the Ukrainian Armed Forces, kerosene and other goodies, because it's all bullshit (
      2. +5
        17 November 2024 16: 23
        Quote: Alekseev
        The maneuver war was extremely successful for such a small number of troops; the retreat from Kherson and Badakli and Izyum was caused, first of all, not by the mistakes and skill of the military, but by the failure to carry out mobilization measures in a timely manner, i.e. the creation of a wartime army.

        And if they had created it, would they have won right away? The experience of the Kursk reverse offensive suggests that this is, to put it mildly, not true at all. To be honest, we must admit that the main reason is our state-owned capitalist system, which is not pulling its weight, not at all. As a result, everything was bad there from the very beginning. And all the advantages at the initial stage were senselessly lost. And the worst thing is that this rotten system does not want to change anything radically. It does not want to work, or think, or really fight problems, or change its attitude towards people.
    3. +6
      17 November 2024 11: 37
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      Now, slowly and creakingly, the generals’ brains and the politicians’ brains have begun to work in the right direction.
      This is where you get it?
    4. +2
      17 November 2024 12: 18
      Another AKM operator sees Modern War as a close-quarters battle of attack aircraft with mini-drones falling from above. And that's where the "generals' brains" are deployed, if they exist? And many consider this correct. There are simply no words!
  5. +9
    17 November 2024 05: 45
    The first stage of the Central Military District was a maneuver war, which yielded significant results in the capture of territories. However, this stage was quickly curtailed..

    This stage was not curtailed. It was betrayed in Istanbul
    1. +15
      17 November 2024 07: 03
      Another mis...understanding.
      With an army of 100 thousand on the battlefield, there was no other way but to "roll up".
      In order not to roll up, it was necessary to mobilize the troops in the spring of 2022, or better yet, earlier. And for a successful mobilization, it is necessary to have a mobilization base, divisions of personnel, reserves of materiel, etc., which was successfully screwed up by Serdyukov with the sanction of the leadership. request
      And, of course, the military and everyone else should be led not by swindlers - careerists and corrupt individuals, but by competent and honest comrades. Ideally... wink Unfortunately.
      1. -2
        17 November 2024 07: 06
        Another mis...understanding.
        With an army of 100 thousand on the battlefield, there was no other way but to "roll up".

        Do you think that VVP, starting on 24.02.22 SVO, did not understand what he was starting?
        1. +13
          17 November 2024 08: 31
          Most likely yes! They climbed in with their bare asses! Generals with bravura reports...Who actually stole everything
        2. +15
          17 November 2024 10: 25
          Quote: Amateur
          Do you think that VVP, starting on 24.02.22 SVO, did not understand what he was starting?

          In my opinion, this is quite obvious. VVP, in his understanding of reality, is now rapidly approaching Brezhnev in his last years.
          1. +1
            17 November 2024 13: 14
            This is not an inevitable process, after all, I am already 72 years old and it is impossible to work at 72 years old like at 40-50 years old.
            1. +1
              18 November 2024 07: 25
              Quote: Oldrover
              This is not an inevitable process.
              What is inevitable, is it age or the system?
              2014 was ten years ago, then the Guarantor was delegated all the necessary powers, but the troops were withdrawn from the border, Poroshenko was recognized, but the DPR and LPR were not recognized... There were words and deeds.
              2022, "Address of the President of Russia on the beginning of a special military operation", which also contains such words.
              "Now a few important, very important words for those who might be tempted to interfere with the events that are taking place. Whoever tries to hinder us, and especially to create threats to our country, to our people, should know that Russia's response will be immediate and will lead you to consequences that you have never encountered in your history. We are ready for any development of events. All necessary decisions in this regard have been made. I hope that I will be heard".
              The words "heard" went from helmets and body armor to F-16s and Biden's permission to strike ATACMS missiles deep into Russia.
              This is how henpecked Russian capitalism is, and it’s not about the president’s age.
              1. 0
                18 November 2024 09: 49
                This was said more for the internal rating and on the assumption that the entire SVO will end by the summer of 2022.
                And now it is precisely age, coarseness and the system that has formed around it that prevent the Guarantor from adequately assessing both the internal and external situation.
                1. +1
                  18 November 2024 10: 45
                  Quote: Oldrover
                  And now it is precisely that age
                  What does age have to do with it? If the owners of Russia are oligarchs, they are actually the main puppeteers, and agents of foreign influence, everything is theirs in the West and with the West. Therefore, the SVO is a strange military operation, because of the selfish interests of the fat cats and their dependence on the Western owners, and the words, for PR and ratings, "the people will swallow". The president is being deceived... You also have the film "Remember the President's Vacation", where he, like, personally wanted to find out among the people what is really going on in the country... Probably, there was no need to pick up capitalism, which after the Second World War had its own leader and owner of this world system. Now we buy other people's "galoshes".
                  1. 0
                    18 November 2024 10: 50
                    What does age have to do with it? If the masters of Russia are oligarchs, they are in fact the main puppeteers, and agents of foreign influence, everything is theirs in the West and with the West.


                    Because with age, activity (any kind) decreases, you have to “delegate” more, rigidity in thinking inevitably appears, an inability to restructure, etc.
          2. +5
            17 November 2024 15: 22
            In my opinion, this is quite obvious. VVP, in his understanding of reality, is now rapidly approaching Brezhnev in his last years.

            Well, no need to slander, the events of the summer of 2023 show that the guarantor reacts perfectly and promptly to threats concerning him personally...
          3. +2
            17 November 2024 16: 54
            In his understanding of reality, VVP is now rapidly approaching Brezhnev in his last years.
            Brezhnev died at the age of 75.
            1. +1
              17 November 2024 17: 07
              Thank you, I know. Or did you want to say something by this?
              1. 0
                17 November 2024 17: 41
                Well, you yourself started a conversation about the age of the head of state and his ability to analyze the situation.
                1. 0
                  17 November 2024 21: 45
                  Quote: Aviator_
                  Well, you started the conversation yourself.

                  I know. I just don't understand what you mean.
        3. -2
          17 November 2024 11: 41
          Quote: Amateur
          Do you think that VVP, starting on 24.02.22 SVO, did not understand what he was starting?
          I didn't understand. But the trick here is that if he had sat quietly and the hohols had struck, nothing would have changed except for the enemy having the first move. The same sanctions, the same arms supplies.
          1. +4
            17 November 2024 13: 13
            nothing would have changed except that the first move would have been given to the opponent.

            I categorically disagree. 8-8-8 Sukashvili started it first. And no matter how the bourgeoisie twisted and turned, he was the one to blame. And no one gave him any help.
            If VVP had waited until March 8 and the attack by the Ukrainian Armed Forces (as he himself said), then the West would have acted a little differently.
            But all these thoughts are of the “what if” variety.
            They planned a small but victorious war, but what they got was almost a three-year war.
            We wanted the best, but it turned out as always
            (V.S. Chernomyrdin)
            1. +2
              17 November 2024 16: 56
              If VVP had waited until March 8 and the attack by the Ukrainian Armed Forces (as he himself said), then the West would have acted a little differently.
              "That's unlikely" (c), as comrade Sukhov said.
            2. +1
              17 November 2024 21: 03
              8-8-8 Sukashvili started it first. And no matter how the bourgeoisie twisted and turned, he was the one to blame. And no one gave him any help.
              They weren't ready then. And after Crimea they decided to put pressure on Russia, they planned everything well in advance. Remember how fast they introduced sanctions in March 22, and how fast they shit out subsequent sanctions packages.
        4. +1
          17 November 2024 12: 03
          Do you think that VVP, starting on 24.02.22 SVO, did not understand what he was starting?


          It seems he didn't understand. He was misled.

          To make a decision on the start of the SVO, the quality of the data that was taken to analyze the current situation was distorted, i.e. the data did not meet the quality requirements for accuracy, reliability, completeness, timeliness...
          "Using low-quality data can lead to poor decisions."
          But we need to deal with the person who transmitted distorted data for making decisions on the SVO.

          Maybe the "cleansing" in the Ministry of Defense is the beginning of an investigation?
          Next, the SVR, the FSB... and of course the Central Bank?
          1. -1
            17 November 2024 13: 15
            Maybe the "cleansing" in the Ministry of Defense is the beginning of an investigation?
            Next, the SVR, the FSB... and of course the Central Bank?

            The fish rots from the head, but they clean it from the tail
            (Folk wisdom)
            1. +1
              17 November 2024 16: 59
              "A fish rots from the head, but you clean it from the tail
              (Folk wisdom)." This is not folk wisdom, but an invention of liberals to arouse mistrust of the government. And the people (who have anything to do with fish) know that fish rot from the guts, and that there is nothing to rot in the head of a fish (there is a drop of brain, and the gills practically do not rot), and the head of a fish rots second to last (the fins rot last).
          2. 0
            17 November 2024 16: 24
            Perhaps he was misled. But the decision to carry out the operation, its necessity was correct. But the execution was terrible. Who is responsible for this? The reindeer herder and his first deputy. Why was this direction chosen? Where are the backup plans? Where are the studies of unsuccessful options? Did they work everything out in Syria? What is that? Total show, complete lack of forces and resources to carry out such an operation. There is no intelligence and will not be for a long time. There are not enough strike forces, and especially aviation. There is still no understanding of the specifics of modern warfare. And what were the medals hung on them for? Organizational conclusions are needed... Failure to comply with the requirements of the 1 Military Doctrine, the collapse of the army, the lack of modern concepts of waging war and developing the Army...
            1. +1
              17 November 2024 17: 55
              The right decision, but not supported by forces and means, is worth nothing. Here you are right. In 14, on one of the forums, I wrote the following. Russia has a maximum of a month to conduct military operations in Ukraine to achieve success, if more, then that's it, a protracted war. At that moment, such a statement was booed, though without rudeness. And where are these whistlers now? And even then there were certain doubts about the capabilities of the army and our mobilization system. With the beginning of the SVO, everything came to light.
  6. +9
    17 November 2024 06: 02
    The news that has broken many previously unshakable ideas about war is flying drones
    Unfortunately, this was news only for our General Staff.
  7. +7
    17 November 2024 06: 45
    Somehow everything is gloomy and doomed. If only...
    We won't be able to do anything until we create a real command and control system for the troops. It's clear that Musk's 3 satellites and thousands of terminals are not a set of flags and captured terminals... How were they supposed to fight all this? Write ultimatums and puff out their cheeks?
    There is nothing more shameful than to receive grains of truth from the SVO participants about how a group of paratroopers was suddenly encircled and all seven remaining people fought off the attacks of the VSU soldiers any way they could... Examples can be given of wounded soldiers who could not get back to their own for weeks... Whose brains need to be changed to remind us that the evening roll call that existed in the USSR Armed Forces helped the commander to be aware of the location of the soldiers subordinate to him.
    How is it possible to manage subordinates today who cannot contact their commanders?
    * * *
    Let me continue the thought:
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    Alas, alas... drones are already a classic example of generals' ossified thinking.
    Perhaps only Prigozhin’s PMC, paradoxically enough, turned out to be better prepared for the war of the future.
    But the conflict of interests between a private structure and corrupt Shoigu deputies ruined both Prigozhin and the Wagner PMC and the deputy defense ministers themselves... I am shocked by this development of events.

    What are the Defense Ministry generals concerned about today? Are they begging for "house arrest"? And where is the Defense Minister, who is mired in show-offs? Has he moved to another chair and gone to China to study military affairs in a real way?
    The country has never seen such a wise decision...
    1. +4
      17 November 2024 09: 03
      Quote: ROSS 42
      The country has never seen such a wise decision...

      Wise-wise. Because if he is imprisoned, the people may ask themselves, who is to blame? Besides, the loss of all the girls in general's uniforms has seriously undermined the minister's strength. He went to China to get some treatment. They say that alternative medicine is strong there.
      1. 0
        17 November 2024 16: 03
        Quote: Egoza
        People may ask themselves, who is to blame?

        It seems to me that at our top all these questions of the people were kept in a certain place
      2. +2
        17 November 2024 16: 59
        There, they say, alternative medicine is strong.
        It is absolutely true that they write that ginseng performs miracles of healing (if you tie it up).
  8. +6
    17 November 2024 07: 22
    As a plumber said in one joke, the system needs to be changed. Wherever you look, we have non-professionals in charge, and there is not even a higher specialized education. It is funny that the Minister of Agriculture is a specialist in loans. Not a livestock breeder or an agronomist. So where will we get meat and milk, quality bread? And in the army, too, it is an economist, not Marshal Zhukov.
    1. 0
      17 November 2024 16: 04
      The main thing is that you don’t read the biography of the head of the SVR, otherwise the question will suddenly arise: is he really working for us?
    2. +2
      17 November 2024 17: 14
      Would you mind reminding me: which military academy did the Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the country that won the Great Patriotic War graduate from? And everyone knows that the Minister of Defense is a political position. In no way absolving Shoigu of responsibility for the failures during the SVO, I will nevertheless remind you that military decisions and the leadership of the GRU (now simply RU GS) are carried out by Chief of the General Staff Gerasimov.
  9. 0
    17 November 2024 08: 10
    Quote: Dutchman Michel
    Unfortunately, this was news only for our General Staff.


    What about the evidence?
    So how did the "advanced" Western technology turn out to be protected from drones?
    Well, okay, Yankees... even the Israelis, who seemed to be experts on BD, were not too prepared for the kamikaze drone attacks. So no need... everyone overslept!
    1. +1
      17 November 2024 08: 47
      Quote: Illanatol
      Even the Israelis, who seemed to be experts in combat, were not too prepared for the kamikaze drone attacks

      In Israel, a new version of the active protection system (APS) has been developed to replace the old one. It has already been installed on American Abrams and Bradleys and is about to be installed on German Leopards. There was a big article on this topic, and even a short video on Rutube. Shoigu, while still a minister, also hinted at something similar, but the result is not yet visible. A system with target detection sensors has also been developed. There is another device that can easily integrate with both light and heavy vehicles, capable of quickly identifying a target and giving the command to destroy it. I understand that the war will speed up the development of such systems many times over, but we don’t seem to have them. And for now we are making do with nets
  10. +2
    17 November 2024 08: 32
    And then questions arise. Many questions.

    Why do we need so many nuclear weapons if we are not going to use them? More precisely, we are going to, but how and when, no one knows.

    No drones can be used if the enemy has no sources of electricity and communication. Are the enemy's satellites a sacred cow for us? I won't say anything about Ukrainian power plants, because they, too, seem to be untouchable.

    It seems that in the third year of the SVO we are not waging a war, but the same SVO. And what do the Americans have to do with it?
  11. +8
    17 November 2024 09: 24
    The ruling class of the Russian Federation suddenly saw that the task of the regular army is primarily a confrontation with another regular army, and not police operations against militants. And here, given the size of the Russian Federation, a "small highly professional" one cannot do without, but the ruling class in Russia has already shown over the past 30 years that in matters of building an army, it has no instinct for self-preservation at all. Therefore, I do not have any special hopes for a revision of the role of the army in the state, as well as an increase in its numbers and equipment.
  12. +10
    17 November 2024 09: 48
    Well, here we go again - all-powerful drones, and the war of the future, the insidious and evil West again... It seems to me that in relation to all such profound conclusions, it is impossible to express it better than V. S. Vysotsky once sang: "But the instructor is a pro, a businesslike guy, try to cut it! And again the hassle about the insidious foreign countries has started...". But if we talk seriously, the main problem of the SVO is not military, but political. I will never believe that during the time that the SVO has lasted, it was impossible to completely destroy the supply routes of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and stop or significantly reduce military supplies. There are no border railway stations, highways at border crossings are plowed up, there is no port infrastructure and that's it, the flow of goods has died a long time, or at least has turned into a trickle. And this is primarily due to the lack of a goal for our ruling elite to win. Or rather, in the understanding of the elite, victory is completely different from the victory in the understanding of the people and necessary for the country.
    1. +4
      17 November 2024 13: 57
      In connection with the untouched supply routes of weapons in the West - it is simply a capitalist deal - they do not bomb transport logistics, in return they do not blow up oil and gas pipelines going to the West, just as the highest military-political leadership of Ukraine is not touched, as guarantors of the deal, and the death of a lot of people for the oligarchy is just dust...
  13. 0
    17 November 2024 09: 57
    IMHO, it seems that the author is listing the well-known and fantasizing...
    According to the media: either the Ukrainians themselves, without any allies, climbed into the Kursk region, or the Americans are in charge of everything, and the Ukrainian generals: "Apparently, military planning for the Ukrainian Armed Forces is mainly carried out by the American command, it is possible that the Ukrainian generals are allowed to show initiative only within the framework of the plan developed by the Pentagon."

    Some kind of digital tanks have been invented... while the mass of ground drones, armed to the teeth, wildly promoted by Shoigu's department before the SVO - have not shown themselves in any way. There is simply no news about their use.
    But the digital tanks described will be 100 times more expensive than the once-praised "uranium" tanks.

    Drones are dogs... Did the author accidentally confuse the army of China and the USA with ours?

    Etc.
  14. -5
    17 November 2024 10: 53
    The window for fighting a relatively equal war with NATO has already closed. Now that they have been warned, woken up, stimulated their industry and started rearming, it is too late for conventional warfare. On the one hand, we have a technological advantage, a quantitative advantage, a huge advantage in air power and intelligence. On the other hand, we have a rigid command that wants to fight the war of the past and has an aversion to quick action and quick decisions. We also have a tragic demographic situation, empty warehouses of equipment collected from the Cold War, and a leadership that went to war without being in any way prepared for it.
    1. +7
      17 November 2024 11: 09
      We have a technological advantage, a quantitative advantage, a huge advantage in aviation and intelligence

      Who do we have?
      At NATO
      1. -1
        17 November 2024 14: 50
        You misunderstood me. I wrote this about NATO. hi
        The second part about hardliners and empty warehouses concerns Russia.
        1. +1
          17 November 2024 17: 24
          So, after all, "we" mean NATO? Whose are you?
          1. -2
            17 November 2024 19: 46
            It has long been clear to everyone from whom this cispo miracle will be, the moderation on VO is kind, it does not crush parasites
          2. 0
            28 January 2025 03: 28
            "we have" is just an expression that can be replaced, for example, with "we see".
  15. +1
    17 November 2024 10: 54
    In our Ministry of Defense, we are used to doing everything the old-fashioned way, and any innovations dictated by the times are met with hostility, and if they are introduced, then with great difficulty and with a huge delay, this is what needs to be urgently gotten rid of, and for this we need rotation and a total renewal of personnel, well, some military officials cannot think in a modern and progressive way, so they need to be replaced with younger and more talented ones.
    1. +1
      17 November 2024 18: 40
      Sergey, before drawing conclusions about the Ministry of Defense, I would advise you to remember that the main principle of any army is the Charter with the main principle - the order of the chief is the law for the subordinate. There is a Supreme Commander-in-Chief over the entire Ministry of Defense. I think there is no need to name the name? So, when trying to draw conclusions about what is happening, think about why and, most importantly, in whose interests.
  16. 0
    17 November 2024 11: 05
    The most significant thing is that the Ukrainian Armed Forces have modern systems of reconnaissance, communications, weapons and troop control. Almost all technical equipment was provided to Kyiv by the United States.

    Well, in my opinion, if the war were directly with the US, then both sides would not have had reconnaissance and target designation systems.
    all satellites would go to simulate meteors in the first minutes/hours.
    As well as the corresponding satellites of almost all countries.
    Because the debris that would form in orbit would make it difficult for satellites to survive. what
  17. +3
    17 November 2024 11: 17
    It is interesting that after 2014 the Americans created the Armed Forces of Ukraine in full, and where was our intelligence. A direct repetition of 1941 in a modern version. Or as Hitler then assured that the Wehrmacht was concentrating on the borders of the USSR to rest before attacking England. About drones, in 2021 the Academy of the General Staff conducted an analysis of patents on the use of drones in a drone-armored object bundle, i.e. the creation of a forward command post there and on the use of BMPT as a forward command post. The author of the article also writes about this - "It would be reasonable to place the operators of unmanned vehicles in some BMPTs, and UAVs will provide signal retransmission. All vehicles will have to be equipped with anti-tank missile defense systems, this will increase the combat effectiveness of each unit." The question is not that this was not and was not proposed, but how the system of response to new and implementation into the weapons system of the Armed Forces works.
  18. +2
    17 November 2024 11: 20
    All or almost all areas in which Russia has fallen behind require technologies that Russia does not have and does not expect to have. So the inertia of the generals or, for example, the organizational changes proposed by the author, if they have any significance, are of secondary importance.
  19. +12
    17 November 2024 11: 34
    Have you noticed that the reports on the destruction of Ukrainian air defense systems have disappeared from the Ministry of Defense reports? This entire war is one big misunderstanding. Having a multiple advantage in aircraft, we do not use aviation. Having a multiple advantage in artillery, missiles, not a single bridge over the Dnieper has been destroyed. And in general, Western weapons are delivered without problems, without being destroyed in any areas. At the same time, there are more and more snorting people who rushed to explain that now is a different war, but we are fighting not even like in 1941, but like in 1812!! Only assaults and hand-to-hand combat! Human life is not worth a penny. And as soon as voices are heard that it is impossible to fight like this, they are immediately silenced. As soon as military expert Sivkov K.V. voiced that there is no political will for victory, he was immediately removed from the central channels. Now all sorts of talentless journalists rushed to explain to us that it turns out that we have "grenades of the wrong system." In general, as one "shot" said: "Everything is going according to plan."
    1. +7
      17 November 2024 11: 46
      Quote: steel maker
      then the reports on the destruction of Ukrainian air defense systems disappeared from the Ministry of Defense reports?

      Yes, why, it happens like that
      Quote: steel maker
      Having a multiple advantage in aircraft, we do not use aviation.

      We can't. In order to realize the advantage in aircraft, you need to have a system - AWACS aircraft, ELINT, EW, the ability to use all of this in a complex. And we have the same as always - we have configured the Su-34 and Su-35, but no one cares how they fight
      1. +1
        17 November 2024 15: 33
        Can not

        Well, who allowed the need to use AWACS, ELINT, and EW aircraft, the ability to use all of this in a complex? In 2022, as they said, the air defense was suppressed in the first days, but no strikes on logistics followed.
        1. +5
          17 November 2024 15: 36
          Quote: spektr9
          In 2022, as they said, the air defense was suppressed by the Ministry of Defense

          According to the Ministry of Defense, we destroyed many times more Ukrainian aircraft than they had. But in fact, it was like this: they carried out a "disarming" strike, which failed, but they reported that it was successful, however, the subsequent attempt to fly over Ukraine quickly led to heavy losses. And that's it, the aviation left the Ukrainian skies.
      2. +4
        17 November 2024 16: 14
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        We can't. In order to realize the advantage in aircraft, you need to have a system - AWACS aircraft, ELINT, EW, the ability to use all of this in a complex. And we have the same as always - we have configured the Su-34 and Su-35, but no one cares how they fight

        rather, we are not going to, our Su-34s operate on requests from other branches of the armed forces - throw two FABs here. Su-35s patrol along the front line. Attempts to find a gap somewhere in Zhitomir region, fly at low altitude to a railroad passing through the forest and simply plow it along with cast iron so that it would take a month to repair it - this has not even been attempted. We do not even conduct a concentration of aircraft somewhere, the strikes are smeared along the front line. But in a frontal attack - ten Su-40s simultaneously drop XNUMX UMPK on KhTZ/Odessa port/Toretsk and it ceases to exist - this is apparently also not according to the rules and is prohibited by Istanbul, since it can entail mass expulsions from the Sorbonne and other universities of children of it is clear who
    2. +1
      17 November 2024 12: 18
      Quote: steel maker
      "Everything is going according to plan."


      It only remains to understand whose plan the SVO is following... and if you look at it as a whole, then in my opinion the window of opportunity for Russia (in January-February) is closing, from 2022 to the beginning of 2025 this is the result that will be the final outcome of the entire operation.

      Why do I think so? On the one hand, this is the arrival of the Trump team in January and the beginning of full-scale negotiations between all participants, Russia's refusal to negotiate could hit oil and gas revenues very hard, which, despite sanctions, support the country's economy. But Trump is much smarter than Biden and he has many levers to worsen the situation...

      Next is the Central Bank of the Russian Federation interest rate of 21%, in December they will most likely raise it again... holidays, prices will go up again) in general, stabilization of inflation in the first half of 2025 is unlikely.

      Well, and our military potential... despite some successes, the complete liberation of the new Russian regions is far away, the number of the Ukrainian Armed Forces is comparable to the Russian Armed Forces + due to mobilization, Ukraine can continue military operations for a long time, is the Kremlin ready to continue the SVO for another couple of years and maybe until 2030, given the overall situation? Doubtful... so we are waiting for the outcome in the first half of 2025.
  20. 0
    17 November 2024 11: 45
    "The solution to the problem will most likely not be electronic warfare systems, but swarms of drones - designed to protect battle formations from enemy UAVs" is a controversial statement, but why not automatic small-caliber barrel air defense systems for canister-shot ammunition with a visual guidance channel? A conditionally automatic shotgun with a 200-degree camera and AI with a range of 300-XNUMX meters. Mini-air defense.
  21. +3
    17 November 2024 11: 54
    Let's take into account the fact that the Russian Armed Forces are fighting not so much against Ukraine as against the United States.

    Well, the first paragraphs already want to shift our failures onto others. In 2022, there has not yet been such support for the Ukrainian Armed Forces from the US and others. Remember: we supply only non-lethal weapons.
    The most significant thing is that the Ukrainian Armed Forces have modern reconnaissance, communications, weapons and troop control systems. Almost all technical equipment was provided to Kyiv by the United States. Back in 2015, the Ukrainian Armed Forces, the Security Service of Ukraine and the Ministry of Internal Affairs began to receive the first modern communications systems from America.

    Well, if it was known, did anyone scratch somewhere? Drones began to be used long before 2022. What, or rather, it would be more accurate to ask a rhetorical question Who prevented us from building our own means of communication and control? Communication has become so boring, it is such a scourge of our army that it is not a conflict - we constantly have a critical mess in communications.
    The Pentagon has a long history of using commercial contractors to obtain intelligence information. In this case, Elon Musk's Starlink internet project is actively exploited. By early spring 2023, it included more than 3000 satellites located in low orbits of various orientations. The Ukrainian Armed Forces and other Ukrainian security forces received thousands of Starlink terminals, which allowed them to conduct reconnaissance and provide communications between different branches of the armed forces throughout the theater of operations.

    Only the lazy or the dumb probably didn't say that we need communication satellites. Let's remember how the guy who got stung in the ass laughed and joked at the birthday party: will they fly on trampolines???
    The experience of the SVO has outlined a vector that will definitely become a loop, we will return to square one. History teaches us nothing, because who will lead the RF Armed Forces in the future, the same people, but in a different wrapper. Nothing has changed fundamentally.
    1. +4
      17 November 2024 12: 01
      The article is divided into several aspects. Technical. Well, the author got a little ahead of himself, drone swarms are great, of course. The whole question is about batteries, how long will they last? But jamming the optical channel with a frame rate is interesting. All drones, both remotely piloted (the old Soviet term UAVs, they weren't stupid) and with homing elements (AI element), sit on the optical channel. It needs to be jammed in the optical range. That is, it is necessary to blind the optics. Naturally, we need to develop kinetic weapons in every possible way. Regarding the underestimation of tactical-level UAVs, work was underway. In principle, a UAV could hit a moving target in 2000, controlled from a laptop. But it was a bit complicated and not very mobile. We were just getting close to electric aircraft. Unfortunately, the quadcopter was invented by a Chinese student, we haven't thought of that yet. Regarding tanks. The concept of the main battle tank did not stand the test of life (high-tech warfare). We need heavy assault self-propelled guns (with a barbecue you can't turn the turret), with large-caliber guns hung with all the active and passive means of countering drones. I think a 152 mm rifled gun with an automatic loader will suffice. We'll have to encroach on the sacred, zero dimensions. We'll have to collect everything together at a distance from the front line. IFVs based on them. Naturally, this entails all the sapper logistics. The second type is medium tanks, modern MBTs will do as well. The second is light equipment for action behind a broken line of defense. Actually, nothing new, just a new twist. If you think about the tactics and strategy of the Livonian War, everything is the same. Heavy cavalry (there was little infantry) and light for action in the rear. The only problem then was with the mobility of artillery. The political aspect, at the beginning of the SVO the task was to win Ukrainians there was no, the task was to scare, to take on a bluff. But since they are us only in the mirror, it didn't work. And if it was necessary to win, the main blow had to be delivered in the south, cutting them off from the Black Sea and the borders with Romania and capturing the main economic region.
    2. 0
      17 November 2024 22: 31
      Everything that was allocated for the implementation of new developments in communication systems was quite successfully stolen and appropriated by some high-ranking officials of the Ministry of Defense; gallant reports were sent to the top that the work was proceeding successfully, but in reality everything was limited to several primitive systems assembled from the cheapest Chinese components, not intended for use for military purposes.
  22. -2
    17 November 2024 13: 15
    Quote: Dutchman Michel
    In Israel, a new version of the active protection system (APS) has been developed to replace the old one. It has already been installed on American Abrams and Bradleys and is already being installed on German Leopards.


    The name - in the studio. Since the real "Trophy" was of little use against drones.

    And where are these super-protected "Abrams" and "Bradleys", why aren't they being shown off at the SVO, why aren't they being tested?
    Well, did TV tell you that we are not working in this direction? We are working, don't worry, on both the APS and the EW for armored vehicles.
  23. +4
    17 November 2024 14: 04
    The goals and objectives of the war have changed invisibly. If in February 2022 the Pink Ponies said something about denazification and demilitarization. Now the existence of our country is at stake. Why? Any negotiations and the end of the SVO are inevitable upheavals in Russia, because everything rests on Akel, and he, alas, has missed the mark big time. And there will be more than just uncomfortable questions. What is an unhindered march of rebels from Rostov to the banks of the Oka and the big commanders from the Ministry of Defense who have run away - we have already seen. I was looking for a classmate from Vladikavkaz on the Internet. I found a local telegram channel. And in Ossetia they keep a martyrology of their fallen husbands, sons and brothers of all nationalities. Over 600 already. And this is one not the most populated region. And it turns out to be some kind of dead end. On the battlefield, victory is very far away, and the meat grinder that is wearing down Russian men will very soon give rise to fatigue and rejection of power.
  24. -1
    17 November 2024 15: 20
    All that remains is to solve the not very difficult problem of how a shooter can simultaneously fire at the enemy and control a motorcycle or ATV.


    It is not clear why regular motorcycles are so popular and no one uses a motorcycle with a sidecar. In which a shooter with an anti-drone gun can sit. Maybe even on a special machine and a chair for convenience and all-round protection.
  25. 0
    17 November 2024 15: 43
    My God, this is nonsense. I remember a cartoon where at the beginning the soldiers are walking, then in a truck, then in an armored personnel carrier, and at the end they are walking again behind an armored personnel carrier.

    The author clearly does not understand that the solution to a problem is always a compromise between the result and savings. The options proposed in the article are destructive to the economy and do not solve the main tasks of the army. A tank or other combat unit does not exist for its own sake, but to fulfill the goal set by the command.
  26. 0
    17 November 2024 15: 53
    What fabulous noodles.
  27. +2
    17 November 2024 16: 07
    Nobody has cancelled the old classics laughing
    1. Quickly and suddenly gain air superiority over the entire country (with Ukr. this is exactly the case) - destroy all aircraft and SAMs on the very first day
    2. Begin a massive air operation, 2-3 thousand aircraft + cruise and ballistic missile systems, and do so continuously for a week, day and night, without giving a break for a minute - with target designation from satellites, AWACS aircraft, all types of reconnaissance - destroy ammunition and fuel depots, command posts, military units, airfields, railway stations into dust and splinters, wipe the center of the enemy's capital into dust in the first hours, do not spare anyone, if you are lucky - with a surprise strike you will destroy most of the military leadership
    3. Begin a ground offensive - 2-3 tank groups of a thousand tanks each, followed by infantry, go 50 km per day. Bypass defense nodes, do not enter cities. Against fortified areas that cannot be bypassed, use tactical nuclear weapons. Spare no one.
    4. Attack aircraft must operate in such a way that enemy units cannot even get close to the front line - several hundred attack aircraft daily simultaneously in the near front zone
    5. Declare all those who are against this within the country as enemies with all the consequences.
    6. It is advisable not to take prisoners, no matter how many enemy military units have accumulated somewhere - destroy them all immediately.
    1. 0
      17 November 2024 17: 46
      Point by point:
      1. Air supremacy.
      Many flight schools have been closed, fighter factories now produce, according to my meager data, less than a hundred a year, attack aircraft - no data, bombers - talk about pieces, and even then, mostly reworking of old ones. Correct me if I'm wrong.
      2. 2 - 3 thousand planes in the air.
      - According to the lists, or in fact? I'm afraid to find out how many combat-ready aircraft we have in total for the entire country.
      - Number of pilots. No information.
      - even the native type of air defense will result in losses of at least 10% of the resources deployed.
      3. Columns of a thousand tanks, respectively, thousands of refueling vehicles, logistics.
      Here is the question - are these tanks from units where they were regularly used, or from storage bases in open areas in permafrost conditions?
      Do they all have working batteries and are their radios in order?
      Have you seen the photo from space of our column to Kyiv when it was going there? And back?
      4. Attack aircraft must.
      - How much is it?
      - How many pilots have experience?
      - What support service?
      - What is the target designation system, is there a connection with spotters, and who does this anyway? Is there a working data transmission system? Or voice communication, like in WWII?
      5. I am for tanks with rotten electrics to start at the will of the high command, don't shoot me. I am for bonds and traditions, it's all the damned reality - it's to blame for everything.
      6. And don't spare the bullets.

      Reality, listen to my command! Stand at attention!
      Execute!
      1. 0
        17 November 2024 18: 30
        Well, that's clear. What's not clear is something else.
        Let's say you are the commander-in-chief. You call the Minister of Defense, give him this plan, and say - look, I'm about to start this military operation. Is everything ready? The Minister will start listing like this - uh... mmm... no this, no that. Then you should ask him questions - where is all this?? Were funds allocated? Were there any reports?? And?! Where... you don't know? angry
        And what should happen next, one can only guess. Apparently, having understood the full scale of the catastrophe in the armed forces, the military-industrial complex, military science and education, you should begin large-scale purges, and then start all over again?
        1. 0
          17 November 2024 19: 53
          This scene was broadcast to the entire country, everyone saw it. Putin personally questioned each security officer. No one objected to him, based on reliable information.
          What happened next, we also saw.
          The principle of personnel selection is not entirely clear.
          There are many analogies with 1914, but a figure like Rasputin is missing.
          But this is my personal opinion.
          1. +1
            17 November 2024 20: 04
            There is betrayal, cowardice and deceit all around (c)
        2. 0
          18 November 2024 21: 08
          Yes, it all happened while fishing with my best friend. Only the cleaning didn't work because he himself could have been cleaned. Then such chaos would have started that today's situation would have seemed like a fairytale paradise.
  28. 0
    17 November 2024 16: 25
    the war is not really about territory; the past experience of the Banderites has been taken into account
  29. 0
    17 November 2024 16: 40
    Quote: Vitov
    SVO is the way it shouldn't be


    Well, it seems like this can be said about (almost) any war/operation from all sides.

    Everything always goes wrong
    which, of course, does not cancel out the saying:

    "You have to hope for the best while preparing for the worst"

    But this is not about real planning, but ideal (which does not happen in real conditions of limited resources) as a result the common population pays for everything (as a rule, with the exception of rare periods, which are usually condemned and called all sorts of words like "repressions" and the like).
  30. -1
    17 November 2024 17: 06
    News from Kursk region showed how our "commanders" learn, that's the only way to describe them. And stop writing stories about "fighting with the USA", it's like saying during Vietnam that the USA fought with the USSR.
  31. 0
    17 November 2024 17: 40
    let me guess: the defeated from inside Russia will be transformed into a light infantry force, with less armor and artillery per soldier than Estonia. the new Russian co-presidents trump and medvedev (none of them gypsy) ordered.
    Let me guess: Russia, defeated from within, will be transformed into a light infantry force with less armor and artillery per soldier than Estonia. Russia's new co-presidents Trump and Medvedev (neither of whom is a gypsy) have ordered it.
  32. +2
    17 November 2024 22: 51
    The US has once again shown itself to be smart - it is fighting with the help of others, but we are fools and until we find the courage to admit it, there will be no point.
  33. 0
    17 November 2024 23: 51
    In early 2022, many operations were planned by generals who grew up on textbooks written by WW2 veterans.
    1. +1
      18 November 2024 08: 02
      Which they didn't bother to read.
  34. 0
    18 November 2024 06: 37
    A vector is a directed segment of a straight line. It is bounded.
    Author, when writing a title, it is worth asking about the essence of the terms.
  35. 0
    18 November 2024 13: 07
    It's not as clear as in the article. The drones' combat equipment was not reset, but they were given an impetus for development.
    means of combating them, passive (barbecues, nets), active (electronic warfare, shotguns, fire weapons).
    Look at the IDF, they have a lot of different drones. But the infantry and MBTs are still there. MBTs are currently destroying the Gaza Strip and South Lebanon.
  36. avk
    +1
    18 November 2024 15: 49
    A year or two ago I spoke at conferences (where they let me in, and they let me in (rarely) for free) and I spoke and showed pictures of how in the next 2-3 years we are in for a "war of automatic drones" (without an alternative, because the front line is 1-2 thousand km, with people and standard weapons-shells everything is bad, there is little or no reconnaissance, we can only shoot in a square-nested potato way - the shells quickly run out, with communication in general crap, except for "baofengs" with encoders in the form of Buryats on both sides (I have nothing against this nationality, but even the opposite), which are scary to turn on at a power of 5 W - it immediately flies in, and r / st DMR, the speech encoding of which is well described by foreign standards and with a power of the same 5 W, which immediately gives out the location on the survey direction finder, there is nothing, well, except for the "gambling" from the TV).
    And the "war of automatic drones" should be conducted, mainly, "automatically":
    1) automatic reconnaissance by a UAV swarm using AI elements, swarm construction and data transmission via the FANET radio network, holding on to reconnoitred targets until confirmation from headquarters for destruction, 2) high-precision drone projectiles are assigned to targets by order of headquarters and fired, still manually, but on the "fire and forget" principle, in the near future, preferably automatically from automated artillery batteries and loitering "drone mothers"; 3) the UAV swarm switches to automatic tracking of incoming fire weapons and target designation at the final section of the trajectory with video recording of target destruction; 4) the location of friendly forces and assets, and everything else, is visible on the headquarters video wall against the background of a tactical space map with the inclusion of video from the swarm inscribed in the map coordinates and from ground assets via the MANET/FANET radio network; 5) ground equipment and personnel are also controlled from headquarters via the MANET radio network using orders and instructions with an electronic signature, the transfer of tactical signs to maps, a messenger, including voice commands (where would we be without them at the moment).
    And all this is briefly called ACS TZ.
    But who cares? The GUS and GUIR have different interests.
  37. Owl
    0
    18 November 2024 21: 37
    First, it is necessary to destroy the "liberal-financial" enemies in the Ministry of Finance and the Central Bank (Elvira and her accomplice Siluminov), because of their hostile activities, soon the entire industry, including military-industrial complex enterprises, will not be able to take loans to ensure the release of their products and production will become, signs of a "crisis of non-payments" are already appearing, not among citizens, but among enterprises.
  38. -1
    19 November 2024 21: 26
    The whole article, with all due respect to the author, is to jerk off about the intelligence specialists of overseas enemies and the miracle weapon of the UAV.
    I am completely disappointed with the article. There is no normal assessment of the use of all types of weapons, nor trends in its development. It feels like all the armchair experts are masturbating on UAVs...
  39. 0
    23 November 2024 09: 12
    The most significant thing is that the Ukrainian Armed Forces have modern reconnaissance, communications, weapons and troop control systems.


    And where did the Russian automated control systems for troops go, about the creation and implementation of which the "heralds" from the departments of Shoigu and Gerasimov told us from all the idiot boxes?
    Where did the "unique" communications and electronic warfare equipment go?
    Where did the reconnaissance and strike systems suddenly disappear to, the mass introduction of which into the troops was something that the Defense Ministry journalists were talking about...???
  40. 0
    24 November 2024 05: 45
    In 2,5 years, the SVO of the Ministry of Defense did not have the intelligence to introduce UAV and electronic warfare companies and battalions into the staff of brigades and divisions....
    It would seem that these units have 100% proven their effectiveness and necessity, but the staff and ministerial "lompasniks" have only one thought in one direction: "where to swipe..."...