We are waiting for statements from Kyiv and NATO about the “wrong war” of the Russian army

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We are waiting for statements from Kyiv and NATO about the “wrong war” of the Russian army

I think it has long been clear to everyone that modern war is, first and foremost, a war of the intellect. A war of the brain, if you like. The advantage in equipment and weapons is rather relative. The advantage in personnel training is also. Of course, if you send a completely unprepared contingent against seasoned fighters, then this advantage exists. But literally after a couple of months it disappears.

The main document for a military man is the charter. Including the combat charter, which seems to provide for all the actions of soldiers and commanders that may arise in a war. But war is not a "game by the rules." Almost any soldier can tell about how a miracle happened and he somehow incomprehensibly got out of seemingly hopeless situations.



How can we determine, for example, what happened to our scouts in the Chernigov region? Don't be surprised, it's exactly where we weren't even planning to go anytime soon. Somehow, our troops suddenly raised the flag over Murav'i. Moreover, they are moving forward. They have already occupied several villages.

Do you think the author is a little crazy? There were no events. By the way, there were "no events", and our guys have been in Chernigov Oblast for over a week now... It's just that for obvious reasons we had to hold back the information a little. And this happened simply because the unit commanders were smart, and their fighters are heroes.

They went on reconnaissance, but it turned out that the enemy had very few forces there, and their morale was at zero. And if that was so, then why not pinch the fascists? They pinch, and it turned out that they took a village. And then another, and off we went... Well, we can't give up our own.

By the way, something similar happened in another city, which we still have a long way to go. There are no reports in our reports yet, but our intelligence officers are already there and are even holding the defense of part of the city. Ukrainian sources are already screaming about it. But the Ukrainian Armed Forces cannot do anything yet.

Of course, we can talk about the decline of morale in the Ukrainian Armed Forces, about the fact that they are sending "meat" to the front lines, etc. But it is better if such conversations are conducted from places where you can meet a person on leave from the front lines or a person on leave due to injury. You can very quickly get a punch in the face. Simply because the person on leave knows who is standing against our soldier.

The point is something completely different. The point is the experience of our commanders and fighters. The point is that they have not been fighting "by the books" for a long time. Each, even the most "ordinary operation", that very battle of local significance, is unique. If just two or three months ago I had been asked how many methods of conducting assault operations exist in the SVO, I would have, without thinking much, said three.

First of all, the “classical method”, when the offensive is carried out using heavy armored vehicles. Tanks They go ahead and clear passages for the infantry, simultaneously destroying firing points that are identified during the offensive.

The infantry helps tanks and armored vehicles by destroying antitank missiles with their heavy weapons such as ATGMs, AGS, automatic guns of infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers, and large-caliber machine guns. Artillery cleans up what the others couldn't destroy. Such an attack is quite effective in taking platoon and company strongholds.

The next method is more modern. It is based on the surprise of the attack. In this case, the infantry attacks using mobile means, such as ATVs, motorcycles, and high-speed combat vehicles.

The method, if you think about it, is a modernized classic offensive from the Great Patriotic War. What the Wehrmacht soldiers used, and then the Red Army fighters. Remember the motorcycles armed with machine guns...

In this case, the infantry begins the attack from a deeper rear and actively uses its heavy weapons. Tanks and artillery play a supporting role, suppressing enemy firing points in front of the attackers.

Well, the third, most frequently used method now. When an assault group consisting of a maximum of a squad secretly advances to an enemy stronghold and captures it with a surprise attack, after which it consolidates and goes into deep defense until the main forces arrive.

It is clear that a group of 4-6 people is most effective in this type of attack due to the fact that it is hardly noticeable. A large group can simply run into an ambush if discovered. Hence the target of such an attack is the squad's stronghold.

And the transition to defense, which can last for quite a long time, a day or even two, is a serious test for assault units. Taking into account the weapons and other components of such an event, the enemy counterattacks with more serious forces than the defenders have...

The attentive reader has already noticed that none of the methods involves direct contact with the enemy before the start of the shooting battle. And the "god of war" participates in the attack not as a "god", but as an apprentice, performing secondary tasks.

Kurakhovo. Attack not according to the rules


Probably, even among the most civilized readers there are no such people who would not know about how the Russian army operates when taking large cities. The same tactic of "taking in pincers". True, I would call it the tactic of "taking in pliers", that would be more correct.

We take the city in a semi-ring, attacking from three sides, leaving a narrow strip for exiting the city. The enemy has two solutions. Either leave or be destroyed. For what? It's simple. To save the city from destruction and the civilians who still remain there, from destruction. The "pliers" are tightening, the garrison is decreasing, the city is doomed in any case.

In principle, exactly the same thing initially happened at the beginning of the operation to liberate Kurakhovo. We "ran into" fortifications in the east, the main battles unfolded north and south of the city. Considering that the city had been prepared for defense since 2015 and the onset of winter, the operation was supposed to drag on for many months.

I understand the point of view of the Ukrainian headquarters perfectly well. The Russians, having encountered a well-fortified defense, will stop the assault. In this case, both the offensive north and south of Kurakhovo loses its meaning. Having such a fortified area in the rear is a dubious pleasure. And so it would have happened... Again this "would have", which few people take into account in Ukraine when planning operations.

Just recently I wrote about how elite units of the Ukrainian Armed Forces are being ground down in the Kursk region. The very ones that were supposed to defend Kurakhovo, among other places. The brigades and battalions that were left in the city are not fully staffed, and the quality of their personnel leaves much to be desired. And then there is the success of our units in the north-east of the defense, in the area of ​​the Kurakhovo reservoir.

Then "Selidovo 2" began. Ukrainian units, realizing that the city could not be held with such forces, began to abandon their positions and retreat. And what should the Russian army do? Naturally, we began to advance, without waiting for the "North" and "South" units to meet in the area of ​​Andreyevka and Constantinople. An additional device appeared in the "pliers" - a piston for squeezing out!..

It is clear that such a change in the "algorithm" was a surprise for the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Hence the stupid decision to blow up the dam's dams. The difference in water levels is only 2 meters. So this is not an obstacle for serious military equipment.

Even civilian jeeps can easily pass through such water. But for those retreating and for local residents, this is a real problem... But most importantly, the Ukrainians themselves have deprived themselves of the possibility of any supply to the Kurakhovo garrison. Cars pass, but the speed has become much less "planned difficult" for artillery to hit...

The fate of Kurakhovo has already been decided. There are only days left until the liberation of the city. Now it is necessary to pay special attention to saving civilians. Unlike other cities, civilians were not evacuated en masse to Kurakhovo. Moreover, the departure of civilians was prohibited. And today, according to established tradition, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are already firing from all barrels at the houses of "traitors of Ukraine".

Once, in 1812, Napoleon Bonaparte accused the Russian people of waging war incorrectly. Men with clubs, village women leading "forest bandits", hussar colonels-saboteurs and so on. Wrong war! I wouldn't be surprised if Zelensky said something similar about our units. We're fighting incorrectly, not in the American way.

Thoughts about the future


Instead of conclusions today, some thoughts about the future. I repeat, the fate of Kurakhovo has already been decided. The Ukrainian Armed Forces will not be able to hold the city for any significant period of time. And what next? How will the liberation of this city affect Ukraine? Exactly: not on the LBS or the Donetsk front, but on Ukraine as a whole.

The next target of our army will be Pokrovsk. I will not write about the logistics that pass through this city. I am talking about something else. Pokrovsk, in the conditions of the loss of Donbass, has acquired critical importance for Ukrainian industry and energy. It is from this city that Ukraine today receives coal, so necessary for metallurgists and energy workers.

Two days ago, three scenarios for how winter will go were announced in Kyiv. There is no need to describe them in detail. It is enough to name the most optimistic and the most pessimistic. In the best-case scenario, heat and electricity outages will last 2-3 hours a day. Accordingly, in the worst-case scenario, without taking into account the loss of Pokrovsk, naturally, 6-8 hours of outages per day...

Well, and about the Kursk region. What is happening there now, no matter how cruel it sounds, is beneficial to us. We are grinding up the elite of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, assembled as if by order, in one place. Kyiv is forced to send more and more trained fighters to help the semi-encircled. A kind of conveyor belt has been created for the utilization of the best forces of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

How much longer will Zelensky's reserves last? I think a month or a little more. Then it needs to be finished by the New Year. And the suffering of citizens historical lands of Russia too. At least, there are certain prerequisites for this...
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  1. +20
    18 November 2024 04: 45
    How much longer will Zelensky's reserves last? I think a month or a little more. Then we need to finish it by the New Year.
    what...what...? everything is in full swing, and the Ukrainians, comrade Staver, are full of strength, he lives in his own little world.
    1. -12
      18 November 2024 05: 01
      Hmm..."Only the last phrase is remembered" Yu. Semenov. The commander-in-chief set the task of liberating the Kursk region and historical (reincorporated into Russia) territories. And about the forces, you are right. About 40 percent of what was supplied is not used... Zelensky has not yet abandoned the idea of ​​a counteroffensive
      1. +34
        18 November 2024 05: 09
        near Kursk, they throw in new units without mercy, and the "grinding" is mutual, my son recently returned from there, and I know first-hand. I also know about the "eccentrics" starting with the letter M, who throw UAV operators into assaults... this is by the way about talented officers. War is not only dirt, blood and sweat, but also lies.
        1. +20
          18 November 2024 06: 16
          Quote: Aerodrome
          "grinding" is mutual,

          This "strategist" can't explain anything. Let him "grind" in his own backyard. The Ukrainian Armed Forces are destroying everything that Russia has planned to take for itself. And to the west of the Dnieper, only pinpoint strikes, instead of carpet bombing. Humanism towards the Banderites is unnecessary. hi
      2. +14
        18 November 2024 12: 10
        I hear and read about Pokrovsk, what an important city it is for the metallurgy of Ukraine. But I am puzzled, if this is so, then why did we allow coking coal to be mined there for almost three years? And this means that hundreds of miners worked there peacefully, all the mechanisms in the mines worked, there was a source of electricity, the railway worked and coal was loaded into trains... And all this is a few kilometers from the front line, and not somewhere in Rivne...
        Maybe someone thinks and hopes that these mines will be left to us unblown by the Ukrainian Armed Forces?
        1. +1
          19 November 2024 18: 49
          And I want to add - all this is 24 kilometers from the center of Donetsk...
          1. 0
            20 November 2024 16: 14
            And I want to add - all this is 24 kilometers from the center of Donetsk...

            From the center to the center - 55 km
    2. +25
      18 November 2024 05: 11
      Comrade Staver lives in his own little world.

      The New Year is already being celebrated... I am more concerned about the NATO officers' planned strikes with NATO long-range missiles on our facilities deep in the rear.
      Airfields with bombers, key ammunition depots, energy facilities, headquarters, and so on are under threat of destruction.
      One cannot relax for a second from Staver’s uplifting articles.
      1. +13
        18 November 2024 07: 02
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        .I am more concerned about the NATO officers' planned strikes with NATO long-range missiles on our facilities deep in the rear.

        And without missiles it already reached Izhevsk...
        1. +6
          18 November 2024 08: 18
          it reached Izhevsk...
          It has become common practice to fly to our Krasnodar region...
    3. +10
      18 November 2024 07: 22
      Oh yeah! Mr. Staver has taken something strong about ending the war by the new year, he is apparently not aware of the latest developments regarding permission to fire missiles deep into Russia or are you counting on a deal? Now the hour X is coming, when we will finally see what our leadership is worth and whether it has balls.
      1. 0
        26 November 2024 12: 11
        In fact, the author is talking about the liberation of the Kursk region, and not about the end of the war.
    4. +2
      18 November 2024 13: 20
      Quote: Aerodrome
      what...what...? everything is in full swing, and the Ukrainians, comrade Staver, are full of strength, he lives in his own little world.

      "Field Marshal" Staver, in his element.
  2. +5
    18 November 2024 05: 19
    Having such a fortified area in the rear is a dubious pleasure.
    I disagree. If you bypass such a fortified area and lock the garrison in a cauldron, without the possibility for it to raise its head - this is quite normal. We encircle it and work it with artillery and aviation. Without supplies, the garrison will hold out for some time, but eventually capitulate.
    Well, and about the Kursk region. What is happening there now, no matter how cruel it sounds, is beneficial to us. We are grinding up the elite of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, assembled as if by order, in one place. Kyiv is forced to send more and more trained fighters to help the semi-encircled. A kind of conveyor belt has been created for the utilization of the best forces of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
    I agree with this.
    1. +4
      18 November 2024 06: 51
      One way or another, the liberation of Kursk land must be completed by January 20. I have a hunch that Trump, having just taken office, will propose a ceasefire on the current LBS until negotiations on a longer-term solution to the conflict. And it would be desirable for the Banderites to have as few arguments as possible at that time, and "we also hold a piece of their territory" is an argument.
      1. +11
        18 November 2024 07: 44
        I have a hunch that Trump, as soon as he takes office, will propose a ceasefire on the current LBS pending negotiations on a longer-term solution to the conflict.
        We should not care about the opinion of the president of any country. Trump, Biden, what difference does it make? Until the goals of the SVO are achieved, there should be no negotiations on a ceasefire. Especially since the territories that became part of Russia are under occupation.
        1. +7
          18 November 2024 09: 32
          Quote: Grandfather is an amateur
          We shouldn't care about the opinion of the president of any country. Trump, Biden, what's the difference?

          For Russia, these are "Himmler's or Goebbels's elections", the difference is not fundamental. There, the Chief Bourgeoisie decides - the main Evil of the world.
      2. -1
        18 November 2024 08: 17
        I have a hunch,
        Intuition, directly from Trump? Fresh? From the headquarters.. You had a hand in his election.. laughing Are you aware that you are close to the body, will the sanctions be lifted? Will Crimea and other territories be recognized as Russian, will the Nord Stream 2 be repaired?
    2. -3
      18 November 2024 11: 07
      Quote: Grandfather is an amateur
      I disagree. If you bypass such a fortified area and lock the garrison in a cauldron, without the possibility for it to raise its head - this is quite normal. We encircle it and work it with artillery and aviation. Without supplies, the garrison will hold out for some time, but eventually capitulate.

      Well, you will take them in a complete encirclement, what forces will you hold them in the cauldron with? For this, at least a threefold superiority in manpower is needed. Two rings of encirclement, external and internal, so that neither one nor the other can strike in the back. No, we have so many people now in Ukraine, as they say, something like a million and this is on the LBS, which is more than a thousand kilometers. But you still need to have at least some reserve. But they have a reserve of 30-40 thousand, yes, even in the Kursk region this is visible, there is a constant rotation there and as was written above, NATO equipment is hidden.
      So, in my personal opinion, the tactics chosen were correct, they allow us to at least somehow save people, and the settlements themselves.
      1. +2
        18 November 2024 16: 12
        This requires at least a threefold superiority in manpower.
        I disagree. There is no need for such superiority. It is enough to mine all approaches to the settlement, leaving one road. And inform the encircled about this road. That is what needs to be kept under tight control. And there is no need to keep the mined area in a tight ring. UAV control is enough.
      2. 0
        19 November 2024 15: 30
        Mikhail, have you still not understood why we are fighting as a minority? It's so simple, everyone who is mobilized is fighting, and we only have contract soldiers. Hence the tactics - the slower you go, the further you will get. But reality clearly shows that from where you are going.
        1. 0
          19 November 2024 15: 40
          Quote: bug120560
          Mikhail, have you still not understood why we are fighting as a minority? It's so simple, everyone who is mobilized is fighting, and we only have contract soldiers. Hence the tactics - the slower you go, the further you will get. But reality clearly shows that from where you are going.

          You just woke up and didn’t hear that there was a mobilization in the Russian Federation, if memory serves, 318000 people were mobilized in 2022.
          1. 0
            19 November 2024 18: 14
            Mikhail, I am aware of the partial mobilization that was carried out and that the Russian Defense Ministry concluded contracts with the mobilized people. Have you seen the size of the payments under the contracts? And do you think that with such a size the Russian economy can afford to support the size of the fighting army necessary for victory? In general, once again the authorities hoped that everything can be solved with money and found themselves in...
  3. +33
    18 November 2024 05: 21
    We are grinding down the elite of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
    A familiar phrase, heard since the beginning of the SVO.
    1. +15
      18 November 2024 05: 38
      Quote: parusnik
      A familiar phrase, it has been heard since the beginning of the SVO
      As well as the complete destruction of all military airfields, along with the aircraft parked there.
    2. +6
      18 November 2024 07: 44
      We are grinding down the elite of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
      A familiar phrase, heard since the beginning of the SVO.

      "We are grinding down the core of the national units, it will be easier from now on. In 2014, they told us so in the DPR.
  4. +22
    18 November 2024 05: 53
    What strange three methods of warfare, to be honest, in fact, all three described methods are more suitable for grinding our troops and not the enemy's troops. Implying outright assault actions in an attack on well-fortified positions. And all sorts of Americans first level the enemy's positions with the ground with artillery and aviation, hit the rear units and supplies, cutting off groups from the main forces. And at the same time, they do not stop ironing the positions day and night, and only then advance strike groups. Not a word is said about drones at all, and without reconnaissance, this is just a one-way ticket. But all three methods are fun, perky, and there is still not enough orchestra in the rearguard for a full-fledged "wrong" war. It is curious that there is no word at all about Kupyansk, what is happening there now, apparently also attentive readers asked to hold back.
    1. +17
      18 November 2024 06: 17
      And all sorts of Americans first level the enemy's positions with the ground using artillery and aviation
      Well, something like that, the USSR fought during the Great Patriotic War and in the war with Japan in 1945, they dealt with it in a month, you can’t even call it a war, a special operation, and that’s all.
      1. 0
        18 November 2024 08: 14
        We fought with Germany in the same way, razing cities to the ground. And we quickly dealt with Japan, because by 1945 there were no combat-ready units left in the Kwantung Army + Japan capitulated almost immediately after our entry into the war, the battles were mainly with those who refused to lay down their arms, but soldiers of limited health, without proper training and with outdated equipment from the early 30s were no longer a worthy opponent for the seasoned Soviet army.
    2. -6
      18 November 2024 08: 08
      Somehow this didn’t really help the Americans in Afghanistan!
      1. +6
        18 November 2024 08: 27
        What exactly didn't help much? The Americans took Kabul a month or two after the operation began, quickly dispersed the Taliban into the cities and sat in Afghanistan for many years, not knowing what to do next.
        Despite the fact that the Americans do not have a common border with Afghanistan and a huge logistics arm.
  5. +29
    18 November 2024 06: 27
    Yes, people like Staver are worse than traitors when you read his opuses....starting with Kherson, it evokes anger and a desire to take him to a trench near Kurakhovo and a couple of nights so that he runs to the toilet under the kamikaze in cellophane bags, drives away rats from food...maybe then his pathos of a 16-year-old boy will go away...and in general after Kherson in his place I did not write anything more...and I would prove in deeds that I can accept him into the battalion...let him apply
    1. +17
      18 November 2024 06: 46
      Quote: Ivan_6
      ..and I can prove by deeds that I can accept him into the battalion...let him apply

      Eeeeh, no. Then in 2 weeks we will lose such a valuable specialist. And who will then prove the unearthly wisdom of the current leadership, tell us that the occupation of the Kursk region is beneficial to us because we are grinding everyone there, and talk about the brilliant victories of the fathers-commanders? This cannot be allowed!
      1. +9
        18 November 2024 08: 04
        Quote: Belisarius
        we will lose such a valuable specialist.

        This valuable specialist is as useful as a migrant, who, as we know, is also a valuable specialist.

        Another author, having read such "laudatory" reviews about himself, would have long ago burned with shame and run away somewhere. Well, or he would have changed something in writing his essays. But this one does not! He is such a "positive" person that he does not notice the negative. He, like a true inhabitant of the planet of pink ponies, sees everything exclusively in pink.
      2. +6
        18 November 2024 08: 11
        the occupation of the Kursk region is beneficial to us
        Yes, just like the abandonment of Zmeinoye, Kherson... About Kursk from the same opera... Kursk region, this is a brilliant plan of the General Staff and the command. Elite units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were lured to Kursk region, otherwise they themselves would not have come and now we are grinding... "Brilliant plan, chief! Everything will be in order" (c)
    2. -11
      18 November 2024 08: 12
      You too should do your job, command a battalion, and not write opuses on VO. Especially since the guys on VO do not react to criticism.
    3. -8
      18 November 2024 11: 30
      Are the Krisi at the front stealing food from the front-line soldiers!?! Horror! Oh, Ivan, you scared us all, not just the author! You have only 14 messages, and our eyes have already been opened! wink
      1. +4
        18 November 2024 12: 08
        Are you sure there are no rats or mice in the trenches? And where to go to the toilet with the constant presence of enemy UAVs?
        1. 0
          18 November 2024 14: 27
          Comrade, I'll give you a tip on an old method, right in the trenches, and then take the MSL and head towards the enemy or towards the side where the wind blows more often.
        2. -1
          21 November 2024 23: 11
          Of course there are all sorts of creatures. But for a drone, and even with a thermal imager to hang all night and not let you relieve yourself... Where did so many drones come from? Organized toilets in the field. Otherwise dysentery and the regiment will be left minus a battalion for two weeks. If drones bother you - camouflage. Make a canopy, deepen it into the ground. Dig a trench from the dugout, so you can enter unnoticed. wink
  6. Eug
    +3
    18 November 2024 06: 33
    "We can't give away what's ours anymore" - does this also apply to residents of the Kharkiv region?
  7. +19
    18 November 2024 06: 36
    Regarding the "grinding" in the Kursk region, and the wise command, here is what the absolutely "patriotic", that is, pro-government Podolyaka writes. - "Here, unfortunately, so far, without major changes. Although I see many bravura statements on the Internet, but in 90% of cases this is, unfortunately, a "fake".
    And taking into account the signals that this puts out (or rather, understanding where they get their information from, among other things), this means that our command in this direction sends this very bottom "fake" in the form of reports to the top. And this is a very bad sign. It is the "fake to the top" that always ultimately leads to a performance, losses, and then defeat.
    Just for example. To prove that we assume that Orlovka, Pogrebki and Novye and Starye Sorochiny, which according to reports are already awaiting ours, are being bled to death by the 810th Brigade right now. Which is sent every day to unprepared assaults, and which is smashing into them against the staunch defense"
    And here is what the slightly less pro-government Kalashnikov writes (this is already Volchansk): "There are many dead and dying from wounds. They are already lying in two or three layers close to the wounded. A persistent cadaverous smell and the smell of rotting flesh from wounds filled the basement. The guys are rotting and the orderly can't help them. He only gives painkillers, which are delivered by drone. Medicines and a block of cigarettes, that's all the help from those who are sitting just fifty meters away from us." Well, etc.
    And as the apotheosis of the article, the brilliant assumption that the enemy has reserves for a month and that "we need to finish by the New Year." True, the author wisely does not say to finish. If he means hope for Father Trump and the prayed-for truce, then this is a false start. Our Father comes to power only on January 20. And if (as follows from the bravura article), that by the New Year we will liberate all 4 regions, then we will simply see where we will be by the New Year and then kindly ask the author about it.
    1. -4
      18 November 2024 08: 14
      And how long has the resort blogger Podolyaka become an authority for you? You need to be more selective in your preferences, my dear fellow, more selective!
    2. +6
      18 November 2024 10: 54
      What's the point of asking him? They already "asked" about "We won't give up Kherson", but it's like water off a duck's back. He continues to print and publish.
  8. +7
    18 November 2024 06: 39
    In the best case scenario, heat and electricity outages will last 2-3 hours a day. Accordingly, in the worst case, without taking into account the loss of Pokrovsk, naturally, 6-8 hours of outages per day...

    The mines near Pokrovsk produce coking coals, which have no direct relation to heat and electricity. But steel production may decrease significantly.
    1. +9
      18 November 2024 08: 04
      But steel production may decrease significantly.
      At the metallurgical plants in Zaporozhye, which belong to Abramovich.
  9. +16
    18 November 2024 06: 55
    Comrade Staver describes various methods of attack without the use of armored vehicles and artillery.

    Translating from the language of delight into the language of reality - drones have brought us two branches of the armed forces. There will be no more tank attacks and battery fire, "roaring with fire, sparkling with the shine of steel."
    This is not panic. NATO equipment has been reset to zero in the same way.
    Now the competition and new arms race will be in the direction of improving plastic buzzers.
    "Quiet, speakers,
    Your word
    Comrade Carlson!"
  10. +11
    18 November 2024 07: 25
    From the latest. Karen, who is the head of Mosfilm, told Putin what a great guy he is - Mosfilm has already "overtaken" Hollywood. Well, okay with that. And he is a great guy twice - he "donated" tanks to the Russian Army. But that is a "blizzard". These tanks have been listed at Mosfilm since the 70s of the last century, when they were filming the Liberation trilogy and the tanks were transferred "empty". In the late 80s, when they were "playing" with reducing conventional weapons in Europe, they "drilled holes" in the barrels of artillery guns over 100 mm in the territories up to the Urals so as not to consider them as combat units. What combat value do these "tanks" have? And what funds must now be invested to bring these "tanks" to combat readiness. This looks more like sabotage. Doesn't Putin understand that the "Shoigis" are constantly lying to him? And so it is in all areas.
    1. +12
      18 November 2024 08: 00
      Doesn't VVP understand that "Shoigi" is constantly lying to him? And this is the case in all areas.
      He is naive, gullible, he can be easily deceived, VVP has said more than once that he was deceived.
      From the last
      The latest thing is that they are going to buy butter in Oman...
      1. +4
        18 November 2024 10: 57
        Well, everyone knows that Oman has the best flood meadows and that's why there are cows there in three layers. And they, like Matroskin's uncle or aunt (I don't remember exactly), have nowhere to put this oil. Yes
        1. +5
          18 November 2024 11: 07
          Oman has the best floodplains
          And apparently, unfriendly partners do not sell.. And so interesting, the demographics are decreasing and with it the cattle population. But everything seems to be there. In the USSR, the cattle population grew and the demographics in the country, but the trouble was there was no sausage, they went on electric trains from Vladivostok to Moscow for sausage, as many write here. Now bring prices to a normal state, so that a person with 30 thousand could eat, dress, pay for an apartment, there will be nothing on the shelves, no clothes, no food.. smile
    2. +3
      18 November 2024 11: 02
      Doesn't VVP understand that the "Shoigis" are constantly lying to him?

      And they are like Siamese twins, they are one.
    3. +3
      18 November 2024 14: 21
      Quote: Vladimir M
      Doesn't VVP understand that "Shoigi" is constantly lying to him? And this is the case in all areas.

      He is simply satisfied with the lies of loyal subordinates... and is irritated by the truth of strangers, but truthful people...
      1. +4
        18 November 2024 14: 25
        So these "devotees" will betray at the most inopportune moment.
        1. +3
          18 November 2024 14: 37
          They betray by the fact that, for the sake of self-interest and greed, they take up positions offered by Putin, without any fear of consequences for their unprofessionalism.
          Ultimately, the country where they demonstrate their "gaffes" loses...
  11. +8
    18 November 2024 07: 38
    we leave a narrow strip to exit the city

    It is not surprising that, knowing that the "pliers" never close, the Banderites sit to the last in semi-encirclement. And then they leave.
  12. +13
    18 November 2024 07: 40
    The author's reasoning is astounding. The charter, including combat, is the experience of previous wars, meaningful and set out on paper. The author unhesitatingly places today's personal experience of fighters above the generalized experience of hundreds of thousands of soldiers and officers whose education is incomparably higher than his. He also seriously compares his wars with past wars. You should have at least compared the results then. And his reasoning on how long Zelinsky's reserves will last is beyond the pale. Mathematics of the "I think" type is a great one. In a word, a cap-throwing, conservative article designed for an illiterate layman to raise his spirits.
  13. +12
    18 November 2024 07: 45
    Leave the bravura speeches to the old ladies, in reality, although we are advancing, we are suffering heavy losses, this is what the guys who were wounded in these assaults say, I have many friends, relatives from the surrounding villages there, they tell horror stories, I can’t write everything without getting involved. But believe me, in reality everything is more terrible.
  14. +5
    18 November 2024 07: 57
    By the way, something similar happened in another city, which we still have a long way to go to get to.
    The language will take you to Kyiv...
  15. BAI
    +14
    18 November 2024 08: 46
    Yeah, new tactics. Here are the details of the fight of the fighter (Smiley), who held out alone for several days.
    15 motorcyclists went into the attack. 5 reached the Ukrainians. Then he was left alone. And left the position when they couldn't help him.
    Result: 14 people lost. 4 corpses went to the khokh.la. No new positions.
    Is this a new tactic?
    Further proof that the heroism of some is a consequence of the criminal stupidity of others.
  16. +10
    18 November 2024 09: 46
    Just imagine. It's 1944. Our troops liberate another city, move on, and the Gestapo, police, and Sonderkommando continue to function in the city... Is it funny? But that's exactly what's happening in Ukraine. We occupy the territory, but we don't touch the Banderites. The first task when occupying a territory is to destroy the enemy's authorities in order to ensure the free life of the Russian population.
    .
    If, when a city is taken, Bandera officials and activists are not hung on lampposts, and the Russian administration is not formed, then the city is not taken. But it is not the army that is supposed to do this!!! Not the intelligence officers, especially!
    Organizing the political suppression of the enemy is not the task of the army, it is the task of the country's political leadership. But the same Khusnulin fraternized with the Banderovites at Zaporizhzhya NPP. That's not how you win.
    1. +3
      18 November 2024 13: 11
      And the country's political leadership - any truthful comment = article
      This is the equation we live with. And the guys are dying senselessly.
    2. 0
      18 November 2024 14: 48
      Quote: also a doctor
      Organizing the political suppression of the enemy is not the task of the army, it is the task of the country's political leadership.

      I don't see any way to suppress an enemy who can't be executed. There are some in the Ukrainian Armed Forces... Why should we breed livestock for concentration camps that need to be fed, clothed and shod?
      The enemy must know that the die-hard Nazis will be shot (hanged) on the spot, and the rest will face trial by a military tribunal...
      Why hasn't the main terrorist Zelensky, who has lost his powers as president, been destroyed yet? Is it really that hard to find (take away from the oligarchs in the form of a war tax) several tens of millions of dollars to pay the rewards to those involved?
      If we fight with white gloves, we will see victorious results by the Second Coming...
  17. +2
    18 November 2024 09: 50
    Yesterday I read the news about the arrest of brigade commanders and the command of the 3rd army. They are definitely not fighting according to the regulations.
  18. +10
    18 November 2024 09: 56
    Another panegyric. The third year of the war, and journalists have not learned to restrain their emotions and continue to pass off wishful thinking as reality. Personally, I consider this position criminal and treacherous. Real issues and problems are being blurred. The population sees a discrepancy between the popular and pompous picture in the media and the real situation on the ground. Trust in the authorities is being lost. In the military and state structures. These are the consequences of an innocent-looking desire to embellish.
    1. 0
      18 November 2024 14: 51
      Quote: oleg Pesotsky
      Trust in the authorities is being lost.

      What do you mean? belay It was recently announced that the percentage of trust has increased...
      1. +3
        18 November 2024 17: 04
        And this also goes into the same piggy bank. I once read the story of Nikolai's abdication of power in March 17. When the commanders of the fronts and districts unequivocally spoke out for the emperor's abdication, he in turn showed them telegrams of support from the "common people" inspired by the security department.
  19. +5
    18 November 2024 10: 40
    The article has no relation to the real state of affairs in terms of experience and training. Unfortunately, without high-quality and long-term training in military science in peacetime, in combat conditions they often do not have time to learn.
  20. +4
    18 November 2024 12: 02
    I repeat, the fate of Kurakhovo has already been decided. The Ukrainian Armed Forces will not be able to hold the city for any significant period of time. And what next? How will the liberation of this city affect Ukraine? Exactly: not on the LBS or the Donetsk front, but on Ukraine as a whole.

    In no way fellow
    The loss of one not very big city will not change much.
    In the worst case scenario for them, the loss of Kurakhovo means the Russian Armed Forces will reach the borders of the Dnepropetrovsk region, where we will once again continue the year-long battles for the forester's hut with dozens of Avdiivkas and Bakhmuts.
  21. 0
    18 November 2024 12: 49
    I read the article - I was happy, I read the comments - I was sad. Maybe the editors should present the material differently: first, a discussion of the topic on the forum, and then - pop a marmalade article, and you can go to the refrigerator to fix the pleasant feelings... Don't thank me for the idea)))
  22. +3
    18 November 2024 13: 08
    Starver, as usual, optimistically lies
  23. -5
    18 November 2024 13: 11
    Quote: Aerodrome
    everything is in full swing, and the Ukrainians have plenty of strength, comrade Staver, he lives in his own little world.



    Because they have "plenty of strength", they grab Ukrainian men on the streets, and soon it will be the girls' turn?
    Ukraine still has forces, but they are already quite measurable, and not incalculable, as they were at the beginning.

    Everything is in full swing, I agree here. The pace of the Russian offensive is growing and will continue to grow. It won't be over by the New Year, but by next November-December - quite possibly. So there's only one year left and that's it, Zalezhnaya will finally be done with her suffering.
  24. -2
    18 November 2024 13: 12
    Quote: Ermak_415
    In the worst case scenario for them, the loss of Kurakhovo means the Russian Armed Forces will reach the borders of the Dnepropetrovsk region, where we will once again continue the year-long battles for the forester's hut with dozens of Avdiivkas and Bakhmuts.


    It is unlikely. To create such lines of fortifications as were in the Donetsk region, Ukrainians they won't be able to anymore. There won't be enough time or resources...
  25. -4
    18 November 2024 13: 15
    Quote: oleg Pesotsky
    The population sees the discrepancy between the popular and pathetic picture in the media and the real situation on earth. Trust in the authorities is lost. In the military and state structures. These are the consequences of an innocent-looking desire to embellish.


    So what is your evidence of the people's loss of trust in the government? How is this "loss of trust" expressed?
    Don't judge by yourself and don't speak on behalf of everyone - you don't have the authority to do that. And don't pass off wishful thinking as reality, where you are and where the "real situation on the ground" is. Your combat couch wasn't even close to LBS... laughing
    1. +3
      18 November 2024 14: 58
      Quote: Illanatol
      Don't judge by yourself and don't speak on behalf of everyone - you don't have the authority to do so.

      And who has the authority to claim that the average salary in the country has risen to 70 rubles and that people have begun to live longer and happier?
      On what basis was the retirement age increased?
      Why do they continue to fool us with compensation for lost deposits (after all, they should have given them for the treatment of children and SVO participants...
      The combat sofa oleg Pesotsky, like many combat sofas of users, is not further, and some are closer, than the chairs of high-ranking officials. It is not the position of the sofas, but the state of the brain...
  26. +1
    18 November 2024 14: 27
    Some superficial text, at the level of standard comments from the couch. Generalizations, speculations, "wants" - everything we love, sitting far from lbs.
  27. +1
    18 November 2024 15: 06
    Now the issues will be resolved and a peace will be reached. Most likely there will be "peace in exchange for sausage." That is, the parties will respect each other, stay along the trenches, and Russia will unfreeze its dollar stashes. Everyone is already tired of war. War is a lot of suffering and very scary.
  28. -1
    18 November 2024 16: 56
    Well, here we go again - "Hurray, we are breaking, bending... fascists... It seems to me that calming articles are just as harmful as alarmist ones. There should be a stern, restrained and at the same time confident in our Victory intonation.
  29. +1
    18 November 2024 19: 30
    And what's new in tactics except for fighting enemy drones? - nothing. A war with such tactics will drag on for a long time, and our mobilization resource is also not unlimited. All hope is that Western countries will experience so-called fatigue, especially economic fatigue from the war. Money is not unlimited, people ask themselves, well, unless our Western friends uncork our piggy bank of 300 billion, then the war will definitely drag on, plus Trump is helping us by reducing funding for Ukraine, but not ending this war, the American military-industrial complex is making such a lot of money from it. The result is one - we need to conquer the entire left bank and make Kyiv a free city, introduce peacekeepers to the demarcation line and ban Ukraine from joining NATO for about 50 years.
    1. +1
      18 November 2024 20: 32
      The particle "-to" is written with a hyphen!
  30. -3
    18 November 2024 20: 30
    Wow, there's a lot of zippy stuff here... Is it covered in lard?
  31. +1
    18 November 2024 23: 50
    Combat regulations should be revised as weapons of destruction improve. The headquarters of all armies in the world have enough of their own "brakes", due to which these armies suffer unjustified losses in men and equipment. Remember Margelov, yes now the tactics of mass landing, including inside equipment (BMD) is outdated, but at that time it was advanced. How many obstacles had to be overcome to implement these innovations. Fewer losses and more successes will be in the army, where there are fewer parasites.
    1. 0
      18 November 2024 23: 56
      Quote: volgast1970
      The headquarters of all armies in the world have enough of their own "brakes"

      I would like there to be as many of these "slow-movers" as possible in the enemy army and as few as possible in ours.
  32. +3
    19 November 2024 00: 23
    I have no strength to read this nonsense... request
  33. +2
    19 November 2024 04: 02
    So far we are only making statements and drawing lines.
  34. -2
    19 November 2024 08: 02
    Quote: ROSS 42
    And who has the authority to claim that the average salary in the country has risen to 70 rubles and that people have begun to live longer and happier?
    On what basis was the retirement age increased?


    Presumably, from those who get their information not only from the OBS, who actually have authority and access to power. And, actually, what do you disagree with? The average salary is such a size, try to prove the opposite. Have people started living longer and happier? Compared to the 90s - that's true, overall the mood is more positive.
    You don't share them? And how do you practically show your dissatisfaction with the current situation and the actions of the "anti-people regime"?
    Well, let's be honest? When was the last time you took part in a protest, a demonstration, an opposition rally or something similar? Or is all your discontent just internet whining? That means you're not really in trouble, and you're generally happy with everything. Otherwise, who are you in life if you're not able to cast your negativity into a practical form? Well, you can choose the option for yourself.

    I've just never been a fan of whiners. If you're unhappy, act. If you can't act, better endure it silently, even that's more masculine...

    Only those who can act themselves, and at least no worse than the object of criticism, have the right to criticize actions. Well, shooting at someone with a calomer from the side is no great feat.
  35. 0
    21 November 2024 11: 44
    Zelensky has no reserves, Zelensky is panicking, this is of course good. But I have a question, is the defense of the Motherland from Ukronazism the responsibility of only the indigenous people of Russia, newly baked citizens of the Russian Federation of Tajik, Uzbek, Kyrgyz, Azerbaijani, etc. nationalities have deferments from military service, I wonder if there is data on how many people from this category were mobilized in the fall of 2022 and ended up in the SVO?
  36. 0
    22 November 2024 02: 37
    I read the article carefully...
    The first conclusion (the most obvious, but...it can be argued)...
    Here you, dear sir, write that... "scouts made a sortie", planted a flag there...
    Do you at least realize that a flag is just an attribute...
    Hanging a flag does NOT MEAN TAKE, although...there is symbolism...
    Without in any way belittling the actions of intelligence, I still want to NOTE - the sky is teeming with drones, and... intelligence, naturally, has them....
    And, having found an empty village... put up a flag (under the guise of a "heroic" capture of the village...
    Sorry, but this smacks of populism...
    Look, this is what we are like...
    A...what?! Have you ever shot at anyone there?!
    I have the right to ask questions - I fought myself, what is it like to take a populated area... I know firsthand...
    I repeat - Glory to Intelligence!
    Just...a little more modest...
    About...taking...etc.
    We passed by...we saw...
    We, however, didn’t hang USSR flags over the villages back then...
    But...they fought...no worse than you...
    Glory to Soviet and Russian weapons!
  37. 0
    23 November 2024 05: 37
    Naive calculations, if NATO had not joined the conflict, everything would have ended long ago, and Ukraine's own human resources, no matter what quality, will last another year at this rate, and it is not a fact that there will be no problems with this - a cloud of warlike lackeys from Eastern Europe is next in line. Here, we cannot do without unexpected moves. It is no coincidence that the demonstration of Oreshnik's properties came at the right time.
  38. 0
    30 November 2024 11: 48
    Zelensky has 300 thousand reserves for sure.. A hundred thousand NATO vacationers will show up.. they won't even change their clothes.. All of Zelensky's oh-ohs and ah-ahs are also lies.. like yours... Why do you think Gerasimov uses the tactic of striking with spread fingers and not with a fist? Can you guess for yourself? Just don't talk about his genius and new tactics.... He doesn't understand everything.... This is Shoigu.... what can I say... Have you tried fighting against two with just your legs? Try it... That's how it is with us...