"Forget About It": Finnish President Opposes Ending Ukraine Conflict According to "Finnish Model"

Finland opposes the so-called "Finnish model" for ending the conflict between Ukraine and Russia, the country's president, Alexander Stubb, said.

The "Finnish model" implies the conclusion of peace between the warring parties with the cession of part of the territories, as Finland did in 1940 when signing a peace treaty with the Soviet Union. Now this is the situation with Ukraine, many Western countries are ready to agree to end the conflict by transferring part of the Ukrainian territory to Russia. It is proposed to give Moscow everything that it can "capture" at the moment of the cessation of hostilities. But the Finnish president is not satisfied with this option, he is categorically against exchanging territories for peace.

Perhaps the answer to all those who put forward such ideas is to forget about it,

" Stubb said at a meeting with journalists.

Naturally, Zelensky is also against this option, as he is going to fight to the last Ukrainian and "defeat" Russia by reaching the 1991 borders. However, he is a Western puppet, and his opinion on ending the conflict is unlikely to be decisive. The main negotiations will be between Russia and the United States.

Russia has previously voiced its conditions, and there is nothing about the "return" of new regions to Ukraine. So, no matter how much Stubb protests, the "Finnish model" will be the main one in the negotiations.

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[Dedok]

Perhaps the answer to all those who put forward such ideas is to forget about it,
" Stubb said at a meeting with journalists.

A politician can't talk like that...
but perhaps this is not a politician speaking, but a hidden revanchist...

[Lev_Russia]

perhaps this is not a politician speaking, but a hidden revanchist...

Let him say thank you that neither Finland nor Poland in the Russian Empire were forcibly Russified, as they are trying to do by Ukrainizing the Russian-speaking regions in Ukraine... However, we don't need their Chukhna gratitude, but it wouldn't hurt for all these Russophobic small Europeans to bark a little less... Everything in this world can repeat itself... They'll bark troubles for themselves...

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Lev_Russia

Let him say thank you that neither Finland nor Poland in the Russian Empire were forcibly Russified, as they are trying to do by Ukrainizing the Russian-speaking regions in Ukraine...

I suspect that THIS opponent of the "Finnish model", if he had been the first person in Finland at that time, would not have allowed this very model to exist, but would have "fought to the bitter end."
They should have shown him the end... The Red Army would have reached Helsinki and they would have received their independence in 91, together with the Estonians and other tribalts.
Look, Hitler in this case would have also revised the "Barbarossa" plan - look how Khalkhin Gol and Hassan influenced the Japanese.

Although people like THIS one are unsinkable. He would have become the First Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Finnish ASSR...

[Petr_Koldunov]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Although people like THIS one are unsinkable. He would have become the First Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Finnish ASSR...

That's exactly what I wanted to say: I have very big doubts that people like him would wage war to a victorious end. Most likely, he would be the first to "open up to us now, trustingly, the halves of the wide gates" (c)

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Dedok

A politician can't talk like that...

But he said it. Or do you think he is not a politician?
The office of the president is a political office, he determines both the domestic and foreign policy of the state. Another thing is what kind of politician he is, good or bad, but time will tell us about this.

[Dedok]

Or do you think he is not a politician?

I assumed he was a revanchist

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Dedok

Or do you think he is not a politician?

I assumed he was a revanchist

Can't a politician be a revanchist?

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

"The President of Finland has spoken out against ending the conflict in Ukraine according to the 'Finnish model'"

- He is apparently for the conflict in Finland. "Ukrainian model" ...

[Mouse]

the conclusion of peace between warring parties with the cession of part of the territory

There's no point in wasting time on small things; if you want to take it all...

[single-n]

It's understandable. If it ends in Ukraine, how can we beg for money for all sorts of walls?
And why then join NATO?

[S.Z.]

The President of Finland can be understood - after all, we are not talking about Finland.

[Turbuta Dave]

Stalin didn't finish off the dates.. And in vain.. These are enemies

[APASUS]

The president of the country is so diligently trying to create a conflict with a neighboring country, but what do the citizens of that country think? They are probably overjoyed to the point of horror, there are also lines at the shopping center.

[Lech from Android.]

The Finns have recently become completely unbridled in their attitude towards Russia.
They rob apartments, land, and houses of Russian citizens who bought them there, appropriating their property.
They are taking away Russian state property, not to mention the sanctions.
Finland's neutrality has been covering up its fierce Russophobia towards Russian citizens for many years, and now all this Finnish feces has come out and smelled of the most disgusting aroma of Russophobic shit.
Something needs to be done with this.
The Finns need to be treated for Russophobia.

[gsev]

Quote: Lech from Android.

The Finns have recently become completely unbridled in their attitude towards Russia.
They rob apartments, land, and houses of Russian citizens who bought them there, appropriating their property for themselves.

The Finns are simply teaching Russians patriotism. Putin told everyone 10 years ago not to have any dealings with the West. Anyone who didn't listen to him will be punished by the West.

[Lech from Android.]

All those who did not listen to him will be punished by the West.

Everything is so... but the Finns are already appropriating the property of our state... what to do about this?

[gsev]

Quote: Lech from Android.

.what to do with this?

Just take away Finnish private property in Russia and divide it among the workers according to Lenin's precepts. The Taliban would have long ago given away all the apartments of the Galkins, Pugachevs, and Sobchak to the SVO veterans.

[Lech from Android.]

Only take away Finnish private property in Russia and divide it among the workers according to Lenin’s precepts.

I am for.
I hope that Putin, at the request of the Russian workers, will expropriate Finnish property for the benefit of our state.

[former soldier]

Everything is so... but the Finns are already appropriating the property of our state... what to do about this?

History is a swing. Today they appropriate, and tomorrow we may have to return twice as much. We were under the Swedes, then under Russia, then practically under the Germans. Now under NATO. And tomorrow?

[maxvlm]

Finns need to be treated for Russophobia

And we will cure the Finns

[Medvedev_Dmitry]

Heh... What's the big deal... We'll finish in Ukraine... There's still a lot of work to do. The entire West is Russophobic, and the South too... And the US doesn't really inspire... So what?

[tralflot1832]

No matter how much access to the Bothnian Plain might hinder us, Finland always pays us back with territories wherever it goes. And plus - the issue with Finnish reindeer will be resolved.

[Ross xnumx]

What other advice and wishes can a Finnish fosterling with a clearly visible strangulation groove (a mark from the neck being squeezed with a noose) give?
Forget everything you could do before. You didn't like living in peace and quiet - shake with fear, because your NATO is a complete mess that will fall apart at the first blow to GB or some other American cur. It was long ago necessary to scare you so that you would pee in the corners, "hot Finnish guys"...

[Vladimir 290]

About the price of independence, the guys have had enough, now even some Finns and other Balts are telling the pots and pans when to fight, and when and on what terms to conclude peace

[Gvardeetz77]

Quote: gsev

Quote: Lech from Android.

.what to do with this?

Only take away Finnish private property in Russia and divide it among the workers according to Lenin’s precepts.

There are doubts that they will "divide it among the workers", most likely the workers will get, as always, the ears of a dead donkey.

[jovanni]

Quote: Lech from Android.

I hope that Putin, at the request of the Russian workers, will expropriate Finnish property for the benefit of our state.
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Is she there?

[nikon voron]

Here is the mistake, first Lenin's and then Stalin's. They should have occupied Finland and annexed it to the USSR.

[Wayfarer_2]

If the "Finnish" model is the main one in the negotiations, then these negotiations should take place as late as possible, so that there are more territories liberated from the Bandar-logs. But I do not think that the issue in the negotiations should be limited to liberated territories. Russia still has demands of a different order: demilitarization, denazification, non-entry into NATO, lifting of sanctions. Where should they go? Or do the gentlemen in the West treat these demands with disdain? But Russia can continue to destroy Ukraine's energy system, its industrial base, including new German and other foreign enterprises that have already been built and will be built in Ukraine. This is also a good argument to take Russia's demands into account. Because Ukraine in this form is unlikely to be needed by anyone in the West.

[Or me]

Finland opposes the so-called "Finnish model" for ending the conflict between Ukraine and Russia, the country's president, Alexander Stubb, said.

Although "you can't judge a book by its cover", but judging by his face) he never shone with intelligence. Not at all.

[Petr_Koldunov]

Well, what kind of "Korean" models, "Croatian" models, "Finnish models" can there be???
There should be one model: the German one, from 1945. The Reich capitulates unconditionally, our country decides for itself what to take from the territory of the former Ukraine and what to leave to the Poles, Hungarians and Romanians.

[Fitter65]

I looked at the photo and thought I'd seen him somewhere before... He looked exactly the same...

[ALCA056000]

Just look at that face and it’s clear that he’s unlikely to be able to come up with anything adequate.

[Dimy4]

The President of Finland...

He looks a bit like Obama, only he's neg... er, black. Many people noticed his face.

[Glagol1]

What a Finn. He graduated from school and college in the US, his wife is English, he has been dragging Finland into NATO for a long time. He has been in power for a long time, an experienced and cunning enemy. But what a mug!

[Ezekiel 25-17]

Then there is the second model: unconditional surrender, as in the case of Nazi Germany.

[Skobaristan]

Now we know that this gentleman is ready to fight "to the last... Ukrainian". Well, why not, it's not a pity.

[DO]

Today, one of the most undesirable events that could happen for the SVO and Russia in the near future is another "peace" agreement, under any sauce. Which will lead to a freeze of the offensive of the RF Armed Forces in the SVO, and will give the Ukrainian Armed Forces time, without ceasing shelling of Russian territory, to prepare new military resources with Western assistance, and to deliver a powerful blow to Russia. It is possible that this time through Bryansk to Moscow.
The statements by Alexander Stubb cited in the article, having been accepted by the West, exclude the very possibility of such negotiations.
Therefore, perhaps it is not worth wasting words on criticizing the Finnish president, but rather discussing the issues of Russia's military mobilization. For it is not at all impossible that the "partners" are systematically preparing new hot spots in northwestern Russia, already with NATO countries - with Norway, Estonia, Finland, ... .

[AC130 Gunship]

Quote: Lech from Android.

The Finns have recently become completely unbridled in their attitude towards Russia.
They rob apartments, land, and houses of Russian citizens who bought them there, appropriating their property.
They are taking away Russian state property, not to mention the sanctions.
Finland's neutrality has been covering up its fierce Russophobia towards Russian citizens for many years, and now all this Finnish feces has come out and smelled of the most disgusting aroma of Russophobic shit.
Something needs to be done with this.
The Finns need to be treated for Russophobia.

This is nonsense. I have friends who live in Helsinki. There is nothing like that there and never was. Don't watch Solovyov and Skabeeva. They are lying.