Went to bed in Sumy and woke up "in Belgorod": General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine forced to explain mass substitution of data in Ukrainian citizens' communications

The Ukrainian General Staff commented on numerous complaints from Ukrainians that maps in navigators, Internet search systems and weather services in their phones and tablets began to display Russian cities as locations. Ukrainian users began writing online that they were being shown weather in Bryansk, Kursk, Belgorod and other cities, although they themselves were in Sumy, Kharkov, Chernigov or Kyiv.

Several messages from Ukrainian users:

I went to bed in Sumy and woke up “in Belgorod”.

What's going on? I understand that the weather in Kursk is important for the Ukrainian Armed Forces, but why do I need it?

Who hacked into my phone? According to the navigator, I'm approaching Bryansk now.

And now it shows me what time it is in Kursk. Kursk is 300 kilometers away.

The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine stated that all of this is connected with the operation of electronic warfare systems.

Ukrainian General Staff:

When the regime is introduced missile dangers or hazards drones, then the system EW works to replace coordinates - spoofing. That's why there is such confusion.

The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine added that Ukrainians should “take more seriously” the introduction of air raid alert regimes and, if possible, avoid using mobile devices. At the same time, the air raid alert regime in a number of regions controlled by the Kyiv regime may operate for 20 hours a day.

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[Aken]

This is for their navigator in Yaroslavl.

[Edik]

Quote from Aken

This is for their navigator in Yaroslavl.

The Ukrainian electronic warfare worked, just in case!

[opuonmed]

I hope Russian soldiers don't use GPS, but use their own communications and navigation satellites! Ukrainians It's not for nothing that they started jamming!

[Edik]

Quote: opuonmed

I hope Russian soldiers don't use it

Their electronic warfare was working and distorting the GPS. GLONASS, it must be assumed, was also not giving out the truth. Electronic warfare is not a selective weapon.

[Maz]

Parents write that Ukrainians Telegram is being suppressed with terrible force, people do not believe the junta media, Russian sites with indx.ru are disabled. Only through VPN. And even then not always. People are flocking to Telegram for the truth, but they have begun to suppress it with terrible force. It glitches, hangs, slows down. But for now it works

[paul3390]

Be thankful that you are not in Magadan yet... But for many of you, this will come with time... I hope.

[Reptiloid]

Serves them right. Let them tremble! Tremble with fear. If dill is in Russia --- it means they'll come for it and grab it. Run quickly and don't look.

[opposite28]

It is difficult to imagine what is happening with the brain activity, not to mention the mental and psychological health of the fighters on the line of contact in connection with the work of electronic warfare both on the part of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and the Russian Armed Forces.

[Montezuma]

Quote: oppozite28

It is difficult to imagine what is happening with the brain activity, not to mention the mental and psychological health of the fighters on the line of contact in connection with the work of electronic warfare both on the part of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and the Russian Armed Forces.

Have there been any documented evidence of mass hallucinations among fighters? I haven't seen any. Or are you taking the work of mobile phone towers as an example, which are often blamed for many things? In any case, you shouldn't be in the arms of powerful microwave antennas for a long time, so that they don't affect your body. And for those who are afraid of them even from a distance, I can recommend a tinfoil hat.

[Edik]

Quote: Montezuma

And for those who are afraid of them even from a distance, we can recommend a tinfoil hat.

No, now 5 G! Here the jumpers say only a saucepan helps. The metal is thicker...

[opposite28]

Have there been any documented evidence of mass hallucinations among fighters? I haven't seen any. Or are you taking the work of mobile phone towers as an example, which are often blamed for many things? In any case, you shouldn't be in the arms of powerful microwave antennas for a long time, so that they don't affect your body. And for those who are afraid of them even from a distance, I can recommend a tinfoil hat.

Your skepticism is quite understandable, which is not surprising. However, the work of EW stations has an extremely negative impact on mental and psychological health, which does not affect immediately, but after some time. Especially leaving a trace in gene mutation, much like radiation.

[Tagan]

the work of EW stations has an extremely negative impact on mental and psychological health, which does not affect immediately, but after some time. Especially leaving a trace in gene mutation, much like radiation.

How interesting! Is this your theory? What is it based on?)) How then does the operation of radio stations and repeaters of cellular communications and television signals, WiFi networks and other sources of radio signals differ from the operation of electronic warfare stations?
In our region, EW work is a common thing. Well, the navigator goes crazy in some places. If some comrades go crazy, then it would be extremely imprudent to attribute it to EW - those around them will not understand.))

[opposite28]

How interesting! Is this your theory? What is it based on?)) How then does the operation of radio stations and repeaters of cellular communications and television signals, WiFi networks and other sources of radio signals differ from the operation of electronic warfare stations?
In our region, EW work is a common thing. Well, the navigator goes crazy in some places. If some comrades go crazy, then it would be extremely imprudent to attribute it to EW - those around them will not understand.))

And you turn off your gadget for at least a month and compare the impressions received before and after, especially the reaction to the action and back. In a nutshell. No kidding. And then you will more fully understand the meaning of the words to live under the Sun, and under which one history will individually indicate.

[Tagan]

I am curious, how do you think EW differs from other sources of radio signals? And, if I understood you correctly, the impact of EW is much more dangerous for health. And if so, then why?
So far it's clear that you have everything mixed up.

[opposite28]

I am curious, how do you think EW differs from other sources of radio signals? And, if I understood you correctly, the impact of EW is much more dangerous for health. And if so, then why?
So far it's clear that you have everything mixed up.

As you put it, because the dialogue is through an open source of information. And as for the work of electronic warfare stations, the frequency range of which is usually X, so exactly what the nature and direction of the so-called frequency modulation is designed to suppress both outgoing and incoming communications. The radio frequency work of the human brain also provides for a wide range of frequencies, including X, because a person has his own protective biological field called an aura, and when the biological field is distorted, a person experiences periods of not entirely adequate behavior due to the work of external disturbing factors.

[Tagan]

Operation in the X-band is inherent not only to electronic warfare, but electronic warfare stations operate far beyond this band. This is a detail.

suppression of both outgoing and incoming communications

Electronic warfare mainly affects the receiving path, not the transmitting one. To shut down a transmitter, its electronic components must be affected. For a receiver, signal distortion is sufficient.

[opposite28]

Electronic warfare mainly affects the receiving path, not the transmitting one.

What if there was a person between the electronic warfare station and the receiving path?! Without taking into account the sector of the area on which the above-mentioned means operate.

[Tagan]

What if there was a person between the electronic warfare station and the receiving path?!

Ну и что?
Here the power of the radio signal and the distance to the source play a big role. The greater the distance, the greater the attenuation. With increasing frequency, the attenuation is even greater.
The receiver does not need to be exposed to a strong signal to block the operation of the actuator.
As for being close to the receiving path, it doesn't matter at all, because there is no radiation when receiving a signal. So I didn't quite understand what the tragedy of being between the electronic warfare system and the receiving path is.

[opposite28]

Ну и что?
Here the power of the radio signal and the distance to the source play a big role. The greater the distance, the greater the attenuation. With increasing frequency, the attenuation is even greater.
The receiver does not need to be exposed to a strong signal to block the operation of the actuator.
As for being close to the receiving path, it doesn't matter at all, because there is no radiation when receiving a signal. So I didn't quite understand what the tragedy of being between the electronic warfare system and the receiving path is.

Digital equipment works differently.

[Tagan]

But the radio signal propagates according to the same laws.

[opposite28]

But the radio signal propagates according to the same laws.

Tell me about the echo in the human subconscious

[Russian jacket]

In the Soviet Union, there was a ban on placing communications equipment in populated areas with a capacity of 50 kW or more. And I read about an experiment with chicken eggs, next to which a radiation source was placed, equal in power to the first Nokia cellular phone. One dozen were irradiated, one was not. Not a single chick hatched from the irradiated one. Something like that. You can also google the results of the use of microwave weapons by the States. But not by the results of the impact on the enemy, but by the condition of the operators of this "non-lethal" contraption. Interesting reading.

[opposite28]

So no one could come up with a better telephone than the TA-57 type! As soon as I got the dynamism going, I called!

[opposite28]

Have there been any documented evidence of mass hallucinations among fighters? I haven't seen any. Or are you taking the work of mobile phone towers as an example, which are often blamed for many things? In any case, you shouldn't be in the arms of powerful microwave antennas for a long time, so that they don't affect your body. And for those who are afraid of them even from a distance, I can recommend a tinfoil hat.

This is probably why they try to restrict children's access to mobile communications in the form of a smartphone at the legislative level, which is typical even in China (!). By the way, this is probably why child cruelty in Russian schools shocks many people, there are more than enough examples.

[Montezuma]

Quote: oppozite28

This is probably why they are trying to restrict children’s access to mobile communications in the form of a smartphone at the legislative level, which is typical even in China (!).

I think that it is not because of this, but because of excessive passion for virtual communication instead of real. In addition, the impact on vision due to the strain on the eyes, and also the decrease in academic performance due to the lack of time for studying, if you do not limit the craving for a smartphone. I know from my growing relative how this happens. His mother set parental control - no more than two hours a day, and everything returned to normal.

Quote: oppozite28

By the way, this is probably why child cruelty in Russian schools shocks many people; there are more than enough examples.

Well, it’s not only and not so much smartphones that are to blame, the problem is complex.

[opposite28]

However, you do not deny the fact that the operation of a smartphone and certain principles of smartphone operation have a negative impact on the brain activity of a child in particular.

[gsev]

Quote: oppozite28

By the way, this is probably why child cruelty in Russian schools shocks many people; there are more than enough examples.

Child cruelty in Russia is caused by the impunity of hooligan children. In tsarist Russia, for a minor prank, one could be expelled from school with a black mark and a ban on entering university. For example, M. Prishvin, the future great writer, was expelled simply for threatening a teacher in response to moralizing. Moreover, neither politicians nor criminals dared to overturn the decision of the school director under the tsar.

[Nevsky_ZU]

Quote: gsev

Child cruelty in Russia is caused by the impunity of hooligan children. In tsarist Russia, for a minor prank, one could be expelled from school with a black mark and a ban on entering university. For example, M. Prishvin, the future great writer, was expelled simply for threatening a teacher in response to moralizing. Moreover, neither politicians nor criminals dared to overturn the decision of the school director under the tsar.

This did not save the tsarist regime from the fermentation of revolutionary ideas in society.

[gsev]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

This did not save the tsarist regime from the fermentation of revolutionary ideas in society.

But it prevented the degradation of schools and universities in Russia and the USSR until about 1970. When permissiveness in schools began as a result under the late Brezhnev, the school principal held a demonstration lesson with the students describing how a bully could be punished. In one school, a mother came to the teachers' council with a complaint that the principal had smeared her son in excrement. The principal told the committee. "The teacher calls me. I enter the classroom. Someone has taken a shit in the middle of the classroom. What should I do? I ask who? I understand from the eyes of both the bully and the other students who it is. I hit him on the head. I grab him by the scruff of the neck, run his face through the feces several times and kick him out of the classroom." In 1975, higher authorities approved of this. And in 1979, the first student to join the Komsomol in our school was one who was caught flogging in GUM. I remember how in the 10th grade one student told his class teacher, "I can't join the Komsomol. I want to become a thief. And Komsomol members are not accepted as thieves."

[Stas157]

Quote: gsev

Someone took a shit in the middle of the class. What should I do?

Where do you find such brutality? And why? I also studied in a Soviet school. We didn't have anything like that. But you describe the events of forty years ago as an established norm. But that was not the case.

[gsev]

Quote: Stas157

This was not the case.

City of Lobnya. I have been here since 1964. Son of the 2nd secretary of the city committee - my classmate is the boss of Lobnya's juvenile hooligans. In the 10th grade, he and his friends beat up their lackey for no reason. In the cell after his arrest, he started playing at not confessing and mocking the investigators, apparently talking about human rights and bragging about his father's post. He was put in with real criminals, where he was raped and confessed the next morning, then got his sentence and became a good person. In general, a person outside the control of society and the law very quickly goes to extremes.

[opposite28]

Child cruelty in Russia is caused by the impunity of hooligan children. In tsarist Russia, for a minor prank, one could be expelled from school with a black mark and a ban on entering university. For example, M. Prishvin, the future great writer, was expelled simply for threatening a teacher in response to moralizing. Moreover, neither politicians nor criminals dared to overturn the decision of the school director under the tsar.

Child cruelty in children is a defensive reaction to the act of cruelty of parents towards children starting from the moment of the child's birth.

[gsev]

Quote: oppozite28

Child cruelty in children is a defensive reaction to the act of cruelty of parents towards children starting from the moment of the child's birth.

The greatest cruelty in Russian society was under Gorbachev and Yeltsin, in the era of complete permissiveness. Then people were afraid to go out into the streets in the dark. The cruelty of the police under Putin drove the hoodlums out of the streets and back alleys. Now they often prefer to misbehave in educational and medical institutions than in dark back alleys. In Canada, a teacher has power over parents and a child no less than a policeman or an FSB officer in Russia. She interviews the child weekly and, based on his behavior, has the right to send children from the family to special education. I was told how a famous Afghan killer who moved to Canada was wary of crossing the road in the wrong place on a red light after he familiarized himself with Canadian laws.

[opposite28]

Canadian laws are good in Canada and it is not surprising that a person of non-traditional sexual orientation was elected as the country's prime minister. And as for the period of Vladimir Vladimirovich's presidency, so exactly, control over the performance of official duties by police officers (militia) has been strengthened.

[gsev]

Quote: oppozite28

Canadian laws are good in Canada and it is not surprising that a person of non-traditional sexual orientation was elected as the country's prime minister. And as for the period of Vladimir Vladimirovich's presidency, so exactly, control over the performance of official duties by police officers (militia) has been strengthened.

Calculate the number of police and special services per capita in Russia and Canada. And then calculate the number of violent deaths per capita in Russia and Canada. And see if Russia should adopt something from Canada.

Quote: oppozite28

That's exactly how police officers (militia) are subject to increased control over the performance of their official duties

What do you mean? I was recently in a cafe. There, at one table, FSB officers were discussing how some businessman had been kidnapped. And at the next table, non-servicemen were telling how a Syrian diplomat had been beaten up in Moscow and how the man who had beaten him and his guards had managed to escape the FSB pursuit across the Polish-Belarusian border, bypassing all the surveillance cameras from Moscow to Brest and overcoming all the security systems on the border itself.

[opposite28]

Calculate the number of police and special services per capita in Russia and Canada. And then calculate the number of violent deaths per capita in Russia and Canada. And see if Russia should adopt something from Canada.

Russia or the Russian Federation?!

What do you mean? I was recently in a cafe. There, at one table, FSB officers were discussing how some businessman had been kidnapped. And at the next table, non-servicemen were telling how a Syrian diplomat had been beaten up in Moscow and how the man who had beaten him and his guards had managed to escape the FSB pursuit across the Polish-Belarusian border, bypassing all the surveillance cameras from Moscow to Brest and overcoming all the security systems on the border itself.

Try to eavesdrop less on other people's conversations in cafes.

[gsev]

Quote: oppozite28

Try to eavesdrop less on other people's conversations in cafes.

This is probably a consequence of the inability of the servicemen to keep their mouths shut, as well as their inability to listen. The worst thing is that the laws have changed the mentality of the Russian people. The loss of respect for doctors and teachers threatens Russia with unfortunate problems. I don't know when this breakdown occurred, in the beginning of the 20th century, under Stalin or at the end of this century. But not everything is improving for the better yet.

[opposite28]

This is probably a consequence of the inability of the servicemen to keep their mouths shut, as well as their inability to listen.

Regarding the word - it is exactly the same as it was always some kind of consequence, but where and why history is silent, as long as the compass worked properly, and there was also the ability to use a compass.

[gsev]

Quote: oppozite28

, but history is silent about where and why

Russia has often been misled by our rulers. So far, the people have been saved by the ability of the common man to correct the mistakes of the government. But perhaps we are living in a historical moment when the government has broken the natural intuition of the people.

[opposite28]

Russia has often been led in the wrong direction by our rulers. So far, the people have been saved by the ability of the common man to correct the mistakes of the authorities.

Russia itself will indicate to anyone the trajectory of movement with a given speed and corresponding precision characteristics.

But perhaps we are living at a historical moment when the state has broken the natural intuition of the people.

A certain state has been trying to break the natural intuition of the people since the time of Jesus Christ.

[gsev]

Quote: oppozite28

Russia itself will indicate to anyone the trajectory of movement with a given speed and corresponding precision characteristics.

As I understand it, neither MVTU is able to organize the effective use of expensive imported machines, nor is Stankin able to create a full-fledged CNC (PLC).

[opposite28]

As I understand it, neither MVTU is able to organize the effective use of expensive imported machines, nor is Stankin able to create a full-fledged CNC (PLC).

As usual, you understand correctly.

[gsev]

Quote: oppozite28

As usual, you understand correctly.

What is the point of giving directions to foreign countries when we are not able to determine the path for ourselves?

[ALCA056000]

How much, how much? "...20 hours a day..."? So, where did they put the other 4 hours? Hey, military comrades, what kind of sloppiness is this? Correct it immediately and add 4 hours!

[tralflot1832]

The guys (friends told me) from Kaliningrad got drunk in one of the towns in the Kaliningrad region. In the morning they came to the train station and there on the building was written "Tashkent". That's spoofing, that's spoofing. (This happened in the USSR, they made a movie about it).

[Montezuma]

Quote: tralflot1832

got drunk in one of the towns in the Kaliningrad region. In the morning we came to the train station and there on the building was written "Tashkent"

So what? A portal to a parallel reality just opened, a common thing. But seriously, I can imagine the expressions on your friends’ faces.

[Eugene 62]

got drunk in one of the towns in the Kaliningrad region. In the morning we came to the train station and there on the building was written "Tashkent"

This has happened. They even made a movie with such a plot. It's called "The Irony of Fate, or Enjoy Your Bath". In the original, the hero ended up in Kyiv. But Ryazanov put Leningrad instead of this city. Did he foresee something? -)

[BAI]

When I lived in St. Petersburg, not far from Pulkovo, I found out about the arrival of important people very easily. The navigator showed the location not as "Zvezdnaya metro station", but as "Pulkovskiy meridian"

[Michael]

By the way, not long ago I asked the Internet for a weather forecast. They told me it was 36 degrees, no rain was expected, and I was a little taken aback (to say the least). Then I looked and they asked me, "Are you in Rio De Janeiro?" I looked out the window, saw the drizzling rain and plus five degrees Celsius. It's a good thing I'm not in Rio De Janeiro, I can't stand the heat at all.

[foxes]

It was a Freudian glitch. ...

[Old_geologist]

This is why they are sure that the Ukrainian Armed Forces are already near the Urals.

[opuonmed]

I hope that Russian soldiers have their own navigators and their own navigation satellites and do not use GPS, etc., etc.!

[faterdom]

In our area of ​​Yaroslavl, Pereslavl, Voronezh, Millerovo, Bataysk, the navigators are also fooling around like crazy.
And that's right. Moreover, three devices in my car were acting up differently, each one picking up something, some GPS, some like a phone - GLONASS.
For example, two devices show a speed of 102 km/h, regardless of the speed at which you are actually driving, or even standing still, the third device shows 0 km/h. Or suddenly the radar detector starts showing a speed of 188 km/h, although my Largus has never reached such heights, and the Starline alarm, which leads the route, starts screaming "Slow down!" later showed that I was driving around the M4 highway at this speed. While in Bataysk, I suddenly found myself 70 km away somewhere in the Shakhty area.
You just have to get used to this.

[AlexTss]

Well, not from the first days, but quite early in Moscow. all taxi drivers and car sharing went crazy... Within the "three" only the phone somehow navigates by communication towers, although it does not show the speed... But very conditionally. And the radar detector with a database shows such speeds - decided not to change the car - to stand at a traffic light at a speed of 299 km/h - not every ashcan is capable!!!
Car sharing inside the garden is like inside a black hole - it exists! somewhere! probably... although it's not certain... Book and search... Maybe I'll get lucky...

[Poplar]

in the area of ​​Yaroslavl, Pereslavl, Voronezh, Millerovo, Bataysk, the navigators are also fooling around like crazy.

It is true. My wife spent two hours in the summer in Yaroslavl looking for the road to Moscow on the navigator, and she accidentally ended up on the highway.

[Eugene 62]

My wife spent two hours in the summer in Yaroslavl looking for the road to Moscow using the navigator,

Is it not possible to look at the map? If not in paper form, then at least Yandex map.

[Poplar]

You expect too much from a woman, especially one who is not young and not advanced in modern gadgets. Besides, it never even occurred to her that this was possible: she used a navigator to get to Yarik - everything was fine. And then something went wrong. In such situations, women often get stupefied.

[BlackTiger74]

avoid using mobile devices if possible

And how then will the Skakuas receive summonses for burial??? It seems that many of them now hardly use the home Internet!!! ............ Although ............ Against this background, many may say that the Tskashniks do not have the right to carry out graveyards on the territory of Russia!!!

[Revolver]

the air raid alert regime in a number of regions controlled by the Kyiv regime may be in effect for 20 hours a day

Citizens, air raid alarm!
Citizens, save yourself for God's sake!
Grab your swimming trunks and panties
And hang out at the cemetery,
Take the best seats.

[Grossvater]

Oh, come on! You've found something to make a fuss about.
In Moscow, following the navigator somewhere in the center, you can suddenly find yourself in Sheremetyevo Cargo. And last year, in general, stomping along the shore of Lake Glukhoe, suddenly found myself on the Kazansky tract. The bear apparently indulged in radio combat, out of boredom.

[Grossvater]

Quote: oppozite28

Especially leaving a trace in gene mutation,

So mutations need to be washed more often !

[Grossvater]

Went to bed in Sumy and woke up “in Belgorod”: the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is forced

Let them be glad that they woke up at all.