"It was a waste of time to leave": Poland is recruiting Ukrainian citizens in Europe to join the "Ukrainian Legion"

In Poland, Ukrainian citizens in Europe are being recruited for the "Ukrainian Legion". At the moment, about 500 people from 30 countries have expressed a desire to join its ranks, and the number of volunteers continues to grow.

This was reported to Ukrainian journalists at the recruiting center set up at the Ukrainian consulate in the Polish city of Lublin.

It is reported that most of those who decided to become legionnaires live in Poland and the Czech Republic. But there are also Ukrainians from the USA, Canada, Britain and Ireland. Every second potential volunteer is under 25 years old. And every tenth of them is a representative of the weaker sex.

The training will take place on Polish territory. In addition, the Poles are obliged to provide the legionnaires weapons, equipment and uniforms.

It is expected that contracts with volunteers will be signed this year. Immediately after that, they will be sent to one of the training grounds in Poland for training.

It is no secret that most Ukrainian men of draft age left the country to avoid joining the ranks of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and ending up at the front. It is hard to believe that there will be many among them who want to join the unit that is being formed, that they will en masse enlist in the legion to return to their homeland and participate in combat operations. It turns out that they left in vain.

However, the rating center has no illusions that even of these 500 people who allegedly want to join the “Ukrainian Legion,” all will go and sign up.

Comments

[tralflot1832]

This needs to be looked at by country, more than two hundred Ukrainians were denied political asylum, in Norway alone, they wanted to sit on benefits - they didn’t even try to find work - lazy people, the whole world is with them, yeah right!?

[Nexcom]

Now, at best, they will face exhumation as their final future. At worst, no one will know where your grave is (c)....

[fruc]

Nexcom
In the worst case, no one will know where your grave is.

And there is no need to write obituaries or even pay insurance to relatives.

[dzvero]

500 volunteers... more like 500 site views and that's it...

[Dimy4]

What attracts them here, money? But you have to be a complete idiot not to understand that this war will not be an easy walk, like in some African country. Or maybe they are driven here as regular soldiers, by an order under the guise of legionnaires and civilians. Or maybe.

[Denis812]

I can explain as someone who has been living in Poland for 8 years and has hundreds of employees from Ukraine under my command:
1. Participation in the so-called "Legion" is, at least for now, a good, highly paid job in Poland.
2. Nobody says that you MUST go to Ukraine and fight there. At least, it is NOT a mandatory condition. That is, you sign a contract, get money, and study. But to send you to Ukraine - for this you must be asked additionally.
It seems to me that "good guys" will sign up, get the money and go to the border with Belarus, for example.. And they pay a lot more money per month than on a construction site or in the strawberry industry :)
Poles want to outsmart Ukrainians. Naive children :)
3. Working under the control of the Polish Armed Forces is practically a guarantee of extending the residence card and possible accelerated acquisition of citizenship. And now Ukrainians who came here after February 22 have only the so-called Ukropesel. And that's it. As soon as the SVO ends, the local authorities will not extend their stay. The kids understand this, so they try by all means to guarantee their stay.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Denis812

Nobody is saying that you HAVE TO go to Ukraine and fight there.

But what if they get there? I wonder where they'll run after the first FAB - to the West or to surrender to our people?
Another big, big question is who is better to become - a deserter there or a prisoner here.

[strannik1985]

2. Nobody is saying that you HAVE to go to Ukraine and fight there.

In my opinion, the people went into territorial defense according to the same scheme.

[Morrigan]

And now it rots in the forest plantations of the Kursk region. Expectation and reality.

[Revolver]

Quote: strannik1985

the people went into territorial defense according to the same scheme

They even gave bribes to the TCC workers to enroll them in the TRO. And then a decree was issued that the TRO could be used outside the territory, and there you go, to the front, to the stormtroopers. What a bummer!

[Denis812]

Yes, but TRO in Ukraine and TRO in Poland are two very different things, don't you think? :)

[strannik1985]

Yes, but TRO in Ukraine and TRO in Poland are two very different things, don't you think? :)

Of course, on the other hand, only for Ukrainian citizens? In order to serve on the territory of Poland, you can simply recruit into the Troops or the regular army?

[Denis812]

Why hire our own citizens into the Armed Forces who can work in the required professions?
On the same border with Belarus, it is easier to place these mercenaries, who are also much more motivated and cruel.
And if anything happens, they can be deported, since they are not citizens.
Migrants from Belarus are crawling into Poland, and then bam, some Ukrainian from their Legion killed someone. It's difficult with a Pole - you need an investigation, a stain on your career and all that. But here, in case of any doubts, you just go and send the legionnaire to Lviv :)
Everything is simple and easy. And you don't risk your own citizens.

[strannik1985]

Why hire our own citizens into the Armed Forces who can work in the required professions?

If a Troops soldier killed someone, he bears responsibility as a Troops soldier with all the consequences, regardless of his nationality. But for service somewhere in/on Ukraine, a unit of Ukrainians who underwent combat training in Poland is quite logical.

[Denis812]

That's what I'm talking about - they're absolving themselves of responsibility. :)

[Denis812]

The question is not about nationality, but about the passport.
The Polish state has one attitude towards the holder of a Polish passport.
And the Polish state has practically no obligations to the fool Mykola with a blue Ukrainian passport. If he dies, it's no pity.

[APASUS]

Quote: Denis812

1. Participation in the so-called "Legion" is, at least for now, a good, highly paid job in Poland.
2. Nobody says that you MUST go to Ukraine and fight there. At least, it is NOT a mandatory condition. That is, you sign a contract, get money, and study. But to send you to Ukraine - for this you must be asked additionally.

I have never noticed such generosity from the Poles. Recruit a battalion, train and arm them, pay them a salary. But there is no need to fight. The Poles are sellouts like gypsies and will hang themselves for money, and here the Ukrainians are being given a military resort.

[Denis812]

Poland will easily recoup this money:
1. will receive a "Legion" of trained people, which is not bad for its defense. No one said that all these people will be sent "to the Eastern Front", which I wrote about above :)
2. These people will pay taxes and will also leave their entire salary in Poland.
3. Their families will remain in Poland, which means labor force and taxpayers in Poland.
4. Poland is a subsidized country. The most subsidized in the EU. So the EU will pay, not Poland itself (not directly, of course)

[APASUS]

Quote: Denis812

Poland will easily recoup this money:

Which I have no doubt about at all

Quote: Denis812

1. will receive a "Legion" of trained people, which is not bad for its defense. No one said that all these people will be sent "to the Eastern Front", which I wrote about above :)

Why does she need the Legion? Why, if they are NOT going to fight. In your version there is only one question.

[Denis812]

Who said they are NOT going to fight?
Russia keeps saying that it is not going to attack Europe, well OK.
But just as Russia does not trust Poland, Poland does not trust Russia.
Both states have competed with each other throughout history :)
It doesn't matter who's to blame and all that, it doesn't matter, everyone has their own truth.
Historically, Poland feels threatened by Russia and, of course, it would be foolish for the Polish leadership not to prepare for war.
Russia also feels threatened by NATO and is also obliged to prepare for a major war.
If a government does not do this, that government must be changed.

[APASUS]

Quote: Denis812

Russia keeps saying that it is not going to attack Europe, well OK.
But just as Russia does not trust Poland, Poland does not trust Russia.
Both states have competed with each other throughout history :)

I personally believe that the Poles are not going to fight, but will NATO ask them about all sorts of Ursulochkas?

[Denis812]

In this regard, the Poles are much more independent than even Germany is now.
In terms of counteracting the EU central apparatus, I mean.

[APASUS]

Quote: Denis812

In this regard, the Poles are much more independent than even Germany is now.

Independent? It is the country's leadership that is whipping up fears. I would say that it is the leaders themselves who are dragging the country towards war. This is not the people's hysteria.

[Denis812]

and I didn't say that people were hysterical.
On a regular level, everything is just fine for the people, much better than in 2022.
And the leadership, yes, is creating panic, because it gives votes. And a chance to hold on to power.
This is politics, what else can you expect from them? :)

[Li17]

Quote: Denis812

It doesn't matter who's to blame and all that, it doesn't matter, everyone has their own truth.
Historically, Poland feels threatened by Russia and, of course, it would be foolish for the Polish leadership not to prepare for war.

Yesterday I listened to a Ukrainian political scientist (they have become much smarter now), Poles have a genetic hatred for Germans and Russians. Both of them were always chasing them (he said, they hit them on the head), and really bent them over with all their "great" ideas. A nation of traders and a gypsy mentality!

[Denis812]

I would say it a little differently.
The Polish STATE - yes, has a genetic hatred of the Russian Federation and Germany.
The reason is exactly what you wrote. Poles have always been treated like rags by both Germans and Russians. Throughout history. And this is reality.
I have a great example: I really like visiting castles. I've already climbed about 30 in Poland.
And practically everywhere during excursions it’s the same thing: the Swedes came - they burned, the Austro-Hungarians came - they robbed, and then the Russians came and finished it off.
Whether in Olsztyn, Krakow, Malbork or the small castles of the Eagle Route in the Lesser Poland Voivodeship - it's the same everywhere.
Well, now put yourself in the place of a Pole - you are taught in school that you were oppressed by Germans and Russians, and then you travel to castles, museums and are convinced of the same thing.
Of course, you don’t have any particular love for either of them.
And this is expressed in the choice of power, which carries out the corresponding policy.

But, what's interesting is that in my 8 years of living in Poland, I have NEVER heard a bad word about Russians on a daily basis. About Ukrainians - always after a couple of beers - definitely. That's where there is real dislike. :)
Well, thank God.

[Li17]

Yes, Ukrainians are something... But I will say about Polish women...!!!! But Ukrainian women are better, they are also super housewives! (I have experience and a Ukrainian wife)!

[Lako]

Right now, they'll just grease their slippers with grease so they slide better and rush off to sign up for this legion. They didn't go to this Europe to die in the trenches in Ukraine.

[Junkman George]

Didn't the Poles already try this out with no takers?

[sdivt]

Even these 500 people (and on the right day there will probably be fewer), well, even these 500 people are a drop in the ocean compared to several million who left.
And it’s absolutely nothing, considering how many die every day.
So all this talk is for the sake of talk: oh! Ukrainian legion! Sounds good!
Well, yes, it sounds like it
For a couple of hours of war
And that's it, no legion

[Eugene 62]

"Expressed a desire" 500 people. That's a whole battalion. In reality, a maximum of one company will sign up. They will finish training and go to the front, at best, one platoon. So there's a lot of noise about nothing here.

[nordscout]

A strange note... Just a week ago, a Polish agency reported that the recruitment campaign for the "Ukrainian Legion" had failed due to the unwillingness Ukrainians - relaxants to join this legion... Is this note trustworthy? According to the rules of elementary logic - escaped, to the West, Ukrainian, simply, by definition, should avoid such "entertainment"... Or this note "for the heck of it", to attract an audience...

[Denis812]

And so it failed.
Tens of thousands were expected to come.
But in fact, it was a dud. :)

[Boniface]

"Soldiers of Fortune" sucks
Give them glass wool earth!