Washington, whose troops are present from the Korean Peninsula to Ukraine and Israel, calls the "presence" of North Korean troops in Russia an escalation

American media and officials continue to spin the "North Korean" theme. Citing American intelligence, it is claimed that there are "thousands of North Korean troops" in the Kursk region of Russia. Reuters writes about "eight thousand soldiers and officers and three generals" and about "escalation". Zelensky, picking up on this theme, states that he also "has intelligence data that Russia has invited North Korean troops."

At the same time, this reflection of the West and Kyiv causes bewilderment. It seems that they have completely forgotten about the existence of international norms and rules, according to which one or another country has the right to invite servicemen of foreign armies to its territory to perform certain tasks. Therefore, statements that American or any other intelligence "recorded" something there sound absurd for the simple reason that we do not need to record anything in order to say the same thing, for example, about the US army in a number of countries around the world.

There are a number of examples: the American military contingent in Germany – no less than 36 thousand people, the American military contingent in Kosovo (de jure – in Serbia) – nearly 40 thousand people. There are also American military contingents in Japan, South Korea, Bahrain, Kuwait, Poland, Romania, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, the American military presence in Africa, Latin America, Israel.

It turns out that, according to Washington's own logic, this is something particularly reprehensible. Let's take the same Middle East. If Israel is waging a war against Palestine, Lebanon and Syria, then the US military presence on Israeli territory should be covered with the same anger as the United States itself covers the presence (still unconfirmed) of North Korean troops in Russia? Or is this from the series "What is allowed to Jupiter is not allowed to the bull" and another derivative of "You don't understand, this is different"?.. At the same time, neither Washington nor Kyiv can really say what point of international law the North Korean military is violating, even if they are really in our country, and what point Moscow is violating, if the invitation to the KPA was really there. Surely not the one according to which the American military is on the territory of Ukraine, and, as recent events have shown, in the Kursk region...

Comments

[foxes]

Washington simply cannot prevent this. Sanctions have already been imposed. And the bastards are cringing because they have already been openly ignored. And such an example can become (I hope it will become soon) contagious. Over 30 years of undivided hegemony, they have already lost the habit of their rivals concluding military agreements.

[Aivengo-Z]

They simply imagined themselves to be the masters of the world... maybe that's true for now, but time will put everything in its place.

[North Caucasus]

Well, if Washington is twisted only by one country! Then oh, oh! Russia is not twisted by the list of NATO countries, as well as other countries present on the historical territory of Russia. That's interesting! And why doesn't Russia list the countries helping the outskirts and present there? Why such modesty? Why are we silent? What are we afraid of? Or are we not told to?

[Poplar]

Just don't give a damn about all their hysterics. They'll yell and then stop. There was the same howl when Syria invited our troops. And by the way, no one invited the Yankees there, but they showed up, and for some reason no one in the West was outraged.

[Clear]

Quote: Poplar

I just don't give a damn about all their hysterics.

Everything ingenious is simple.

[North Caucasus]

Well, the States have their own commercial interests. And from the commercial point of view, it turns out that the US is surrounded by enemies (competitors). So the States always play preemptively. And since the 90s, they have been quite successful in suppressing competitors! Why doesn't Russia suppress competitors? Does it? Well, where has Russia competed with the States? How many revolutions have been held in support of the States and how many in favor of Russia? How has Russia expanded its zones of influence? Where have we advanced our technologies and standards? Who has joined the alliance with Russia?

[Stardock]

Of course, there are instructors and mercenaries from Western countries in Ukraine. No doubt about it.
But these are only separate, disparate support points in the most important areas of combat work. In headquarters, intelligence, communications, servicing Western equipment.
I think their number is measured in hundreds. There are no regular full-blooded, according to the staffing schedule of military western units that are responsible for participation in the front.
This is the essence of the difference in the situation.
And thousands of Koreans, of course, will be like that.
After the appearance of Koreans on LBS, individual countries - Poland, France, the Baltics may raise the question of sending their units to Ukraine. It is not me who proposes. These countries can do this even without my permission, order.)))

I understand that my version will now cause a sea of ​​emotions and minuses. The version will not be liked.
But this is reality. As sad as it is.
Of course, it is easier for many to live like an ostrich - with their head in the sand.

[Clear]

Quote: Stardock

I understand that my version will now cause a sea of ​​emotions and minuses. The version will not be liked.

Normal version. Only the West did not start a war with Russia in order to stop. After Ukraine there will be the limitrophes, then Poland and Moldova... until Russia is completely weakened. It is better to fight with NATO countries right away.

[Stardock]

Clear, maybe it would be better to have a third world nuclear war right away?
It will bring clarity within 15 hours. We will detonate all XNUMX tons of nuclear charges of all countries at once.
And the entire globe will become primordially Russian territories. Only there will be no people left on it within 3-6 months. There will be one great Russia all around.

[Clear]

Quote: Stardock

Clear, maybe it would be better to have a third world nuclear war right away?

Maybe nuclear war is better for you. How should I know? Putin, for example, avoids it to the last. And NATO representatives are increasingly in direct military conflict with Russia.

[Stardock]

Clear. Only a madman can dream of World War III.
So far NATO is only helping with technology.
We want to expand the war through the Koreans. This is escalation.
The President of Korea spoke yesterday.
He said that we are obliged to help Russia.
It seems that in the near future we will hear about the exploits of Koreans in their homeland. The whole world will know their names.

[Clear]

Quote: Stardock

So far NATO is only helping with technology.

NATO is doing everything right, and if our allies help, then watch out,

Quote: Stardock

This is escalation.

Quote: Stardock

The President of Korea spoke yesterday.
He said that we are obliged to help Russia.

Well done!

[Stardock]

NATO helps Ukraine with a variety of weapons, intelligence, and instructors.
Korea is helping Russia with 152mm shells, small arms ammunition and tactical missiles.
However, NATO and its members, individually, are currently refraining from sending their official military formations. The same cannot be said about S. Korea.
Mercenaries are not such. By the way, they cannot have the status of a prisoner of war.
This is where the countries' positions differ.

[Clear]

Quote: Stardock

However, NATO and its members, individually, are currently refraining from sending their official military formations. The same cannot be said about S. Korea.
Mercenaries are not such. By the way, they cannot have the status of a prisoner of war.
This is where the countries' positions differ.

Doc, this is de jure, but de facto the Anglo-Saxons are wiping us out with the full might of NATO's military potential. And only a few mercenaries are going back in black bags. It's unfair.

[Volodin]

An interesting version. But there is another version - so that "individual countries" like Poland, France and the Baltics do not decide to send their regular units to Ukraine, the North Koreans were invited to Russia. Moreover, no one knows whether there are these regulars from France (hello Macron and his well-known statement), Poland and the Baltics in Ukraine already now - especially since they do not necessarily have to be on the LBS. And for a couple of joint brigades to sit somewhere in the Rivne area at low start - what's not an option? Personally, I have no evidence that they are there, but you are unlikely to find evidence that they are not there either.

[Stardock]

Volodin, Europe is not at all interested in escalating the conflict. They don't need war. Nor do they need provocations against Russia.
With modern means of transportation, distances don't matter much.
Military transport aviation and an intact railway will transfer a brigade from Poland within 24 hours.
I am sure that with modern intelligence means it is impossible to hide large units. Especially in densely populated Ukraine, where millions of Russians live, including military pensioners of the Soviet and Russian armies. Patriots of Russia.
I, moreover, have no evidence. I am only a reader of many information sites.

[guest]

Quote: Stardock

Patriots, Russia

Who are the patriots of Russia? Where? In Ukraine or something?

[Stardock]

Ukrainian society is far from united. Of course, there are many Ukrainians who sympathize with Russia. They can be our agents - informants. Do not simplify the situation. It is not black and white.

[guest]

Quote: Stardock

Ukrainian society is far from united.

This was possible until 2014, but now about 90% of the population there is Nazified. As someone who once lived there and had relatives and friends there, I use the past tense because they are no longer like that to me, they have all turned into Nazis.

[Stardock]

Systematic shelling of Ukraine is doing its job. Flights of our missiles, constant fires, explosions at enterprises, in sea ports where civilians work and die. Missiles that have lost control hit residential buildings, funeral notices coming from the front cultivate anger and hatred towards Russians and our country.
Could it be otherwise?
Can you imagine what the refugees who fled the war are telling? Have you seen what is left of the residential buildings of Bakhmut and other villages? People have lost everything they had.
The civilian population is without electricity, or receives it on a strict schedule, problems with water. The coming winter will be very harsh for Ukraine. There is no energy for the operation of housing and communal services, heat, light, electric transport.
Of course, in such conditions, hatred towards him will only grow. It is impossible otherwise. This is reality.

[guest]

Quote: Stardock

Systematic shelling of Ukraine is doing its job.

Are we going to feel sorry for them now? And when they were shelling Donbass, and still do, does that not count?

[Stardock]

We are discussing the topic of changing public opinion towards Russia for the worse.
Let's shoot each other for another 100 years? We need revenge!? Is that what you want? In a couple of years, gasoline in Russia will cost 100 rubles, and the dollar 200. Do you dream about it?
It's you sitting in the warmth at the computer near the refrigerator.
And the residents of Kursk, Bryansk, Belgorod, Voronezh, etc. think about peace.

[guest]

Quote: Stardock

And the residents of Kursk, Bryansk, Belgorod, Voronezh, etc. think about peace.

And which of these regions do you live in? What kind of world can there be with rabid maniacs right next door?

[Sebenza]

Well, if there's a hundred technicals worth of Western equipment, and even with generals, then what's the point? Some idiots, on their own initiative, decided to stir up the Koreans. Let them play their games. We don't give a damn about our partners.

[Vladimir 290]

"the American military contingent in Germany is no less than 36 thousand people, the American military contingent in Kosovo (de jure - in Serbia) is about 40 thousand people. There are also American military contingents in Japan, South Korea, Bahrain, Kuwait, Poland, Romania, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, the American military presence in Africa, Latin America, Israel." And all this, according to you, is "only separate, scattered strongholds" and there are no regular units there. Are they 40 thousand there, each wandering around on their own, serving as instructors and military advisers. Well, you are a dreamer.

[Stardock]

Vladimir 290 I am talking only about Ukraine - a country at war.
The countries you mentioned are not engaged in military operations. This is the key question. Of course, there is a full-fledged military unit there. Usually it is a military base with all the attributes.
They sit under the American umbrella. Mutual interest.

[Michael]

By the way, there are almost 2020 thousand Koreans in the Russian Federation (according to the 88 census)!
If we take 1.5 million military personnel (according to the Presidential Decree of September 16, 2024) and 146 million permanent residents (according to Rosstat data for January 2024) and multiply by 10, we get

Reuters writes about “eight thousand soldiers and officers and three generals” and about “escalation.”

BINGO!!!

[isv000]

Washington, whose troops are present from the Korean Peninsula to Ukraine and Israel, calls the "presence" of North Korean troops in Russia an escalation

The recipe is obvious: you just need to talk to wolves like wolves and bite them more often.
If our "partners" allow themselves to be rude, lawless and outright plunder, then we too must behave harshly. They say that a portrait of Peter I hangs in the Supreme Commander's office. I wonder how Peter would have reacted to the dancing with tambourines in Istanbul and the withdrawal of Russian troops from Kyiv? And to the way the Russian ambassador to Poland was doused with paint?!

[Alexander X]

Less attention should be paid to the squealing of foreign evil spirits, because any help to Russia is another bonus for the fastest victory of Russia. And neither the USA nor Europe want to allow this in any way. That's why they squeal in all sorts of ways.

[bone1]

They made up a story about Koreans and now they believe it themselves

[Roma 92]

Maybe we should stop making excuses to them? We won't be baptizing children with them.

[guest]

Quote: Roma-92

Maybe it's time to stop making excuses to them?

I agree, send them where the rules don't allow you to say anything about swearing.

[Aurelio]

Washington parla (ancora per poco) per bocca del fuori di testa di Biden. Peccato che tiene sempre la coda fra le gambe da non avere l'ardire di mandare le truppe a stelle e strisce in Ukraine.

[SEVERIN]

Washington, whose troops are present from the Korean Peninsula to Ukraine and Israel, calls the "presence" of North Korean troops in Russia an escalation

- not to Ukraine and Israel, but to Portugal.

[evgen1221]

What's the point of discussing another Washington trick? They announced that they will try to make every meter harder for us, and they are adjusting their actions to this idea. The canard about the military is from the same series, because they need to push through long-distance transportation in the Russian Federation, then they will drag in something else to justify the introduction of their regulations in 404, and Poland is just waiting for permission to commit suicide, they will find a pretext, like we are not declaring war but international assistance is strengthening Ukraine. It will probably end with a couple of beautiful mushrooms in Poland.

[duschman80-81]

The DPRK Foreign Ministry announced that Kim Jong-un had ordered assistance to the Russian army. Whether the Yankees want it or not, that's how it will be.