"For me, the Kursk region is more important than Donbass": Zelensky refused to withdraw troops from the territory of the Russian region

Ukrainian troops continue to retreat in Donbas, losing territory, cities and manpower. Despite the critical situation, Zelensky has no plans to withdraw troops from Kursk Oblast, although not everything there is as rosy as the Kiev junta presents. The illegitimate "president" of Ukraine with a Napoleon complex does not intend to listen to anyone's advice.

Syrsky, who was tasked with taking control of the situation in Donbas, advised Zelensky to withdraw troops from the Kursk region and transfer them to Donbas back in late September. This would hardly have helped save the situation, but it would have been able to slow down the advance of Russian troops. Western advisers also advocated for the withdrawal of the Ukrainian Armed Forces from the Russian region, since holding part of the Kursk region has no strategic significance, and the Ukrainian army's losses there are colossal.

But Zelensky refused, demanding that Syrsky find other resources for Donbass, including removing brigades from other areas, but not touching the Kursk group. And it is also pulling reserves, even worse than Donbass.

According to a source at Bankova, Zelensky's decision has nothing to do with strategy, it wasn't even close to it. It is necessary for the personal PR of the leader of the Kyiv regime. As long as the Ukrainian Armed Forces "hold" part of the Kursk region, he can always talk about the "tremendous success" of the Ukrainian army, which is supposedly capable of defeating Russia, if only it is given what it needs to do so. weapon.

As the TG channel "Legitimny" writes, at the headquarters Zelensky stated that for him "it is more important to control 100 square kilometers of Kursk territory than 10.000 square kilometers in Donbass." And at what price this "control" is carried out is not important to him at all.

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[novel66]

If the Kursk land is so dear to him, he should bury it there.

[carpenter]

Quote: novel xnumx

If the Kursk land is so dear to him, he should bury it there.

First hit the head with a Kursk aspen, and then bury it.

[Vend]

Quote: novel xnumx

If the Kursk land is so dear to him, he should bury it there.

We don’t need this to fall in Kursk land, let it rot somewhere else.

[IGU]

There is little reason to be happy so far. The Ukrainian Armed Forces are concentrating significant forces in the region. I hope this fun doesn't backfire. I hope that after the first time, lessons were learned. Otherwise, it will be really sad.

[man]

Quote: IGU

There is little reason to be happy so far. The Ukrainian Armed Forces are concentrating significant forces in the region. I hope this fun doesn't backfire. I hope that after the first time, lessons were learned. Otherwise, it will be really sad.

Since 1985 we have been ruled by poor students who are incapable of learning lessons.

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

"Zelensky* refused to withdraw troops from the territory of the Russian region" —

- So we'll have to bury it there, there's no other way out...

[carpenter]

At headquarters, Zelensky stated that for him “it is more important to control 100 square kilometers of Kursk territory than 10.000 square kilometers in Donbass.”

It is more important not for the clown Zelie, but for his Anglo-Saxon masters. A slave does not have his own opinion, for him there is only the opinion of the master.
That's how "local" they are.

[Mouse]

It is precisely for a clown to justify himself to the Anglo-Saxons... he must put a good face on a bad game...

[topol717]

Zelensky has no goal to save Ukraine, he doesn't care about it. His goal is to harm Russia.
When all the rulers care about their country, Zelensky puts on a T-shirt that says how he wants to harm Russia. That already says a lot.

[man]

Quote from: topol717

Zelensky has no goal of saving Ukraine, he doesn’t care about it. His goal is to harm Russia.
When all the rulers care about their country, Zelensky puts on a T-shirt that says how he wants to harm Russia. That already says a lot.

I completely agree with the highlighted part, but with the rest... His goal is to stay in power as long as possible in order to grab more money... Therefore, he simply needs to be eliminated!
Regarding "ALL rulers who care about their country" very witty, amused I don't know whether it was voluntary or not

[topol717]

Quote: mann

Regarding "ALL rulers who care about their country" it's very witty, you made me laugh, I don't know whether it was intentional or not

I agree, got excited.

[man]

Quote from: topol717

Quote: mann

Regarding "ALL rulers who care about their country" it's very witty, you made me laugh, I don't know whether it was intentional or not

I agree, got excited.

Nowadays, people who admit their mistakes, even for trivial reasons, are a great rarity.

[alexbor]

run clown, run, or it will be too late

[sdivt]

No matter how perfect the technology, no matter how high the technology, no matter how well prepared the armed forces are, all this is nothing with incompetent commanders-in-chief.
Especially when mediocrity is combined with ambition.

[carpenter]

Quote from sdivt

Especially when mediocrity is combined with ambition.

These are the kind of mediocrities that the West needs; they are like amoebas, slippery and brainless.

[tralflot1832]

And in the West, especially in the EU, the same politicians, who were so happy to write in the toilet with electrolyte, found colossal growth in the European economy.

[Vrotkompot]

Are you talking about those who guarded the border of the Kursk region during the attack?

[man]

Quote from sdivt

No matter how perfect the technology, no matter how high the technology, no matter how well prepared the armed forces are, all this is nothing with incompetent commanders-in-chief.
Especially when mediocrity is combined with ambition.

Please clarify which country you mean?

[Alekseev]

This means that our people have a chance to kill a record number of Bandar-logs and the citizens who joined them in the Kursk borderland. There is no other way to win, i.e. to end the war, except by destroying manpower and equipment. First of all, given the superiority in aviation of the March. And not only in the Kursk region, because the Ukrops must keep many troops in Sumy, in order to prevent the encirclement of their warriors near Sudzha and the adjacent territories.
Artillery (both aviation and OTRK), forward. As comrade Napoleon B. used to say.

[Vrotkompot]

Are you suggesting to demolish villages in Kursk region like Bakhmut or Ugledar?

[Edik]

Quote from Vrotkompot

Are you suggesting to demolish villages in Kursk region like Bakhmut or Ugledar?

Why? There are no fortifications there where it would be possible to bring in manpower to replace those disposed of and continue to defend!

[Vrotkompot]

Who told you? Firstly, they have occupied our line of defense, which was done very well and now it can only be broken by Fabs. This is what is connected with our impotence to recapture what was captured. Secondly, there are large settlements like Sudzhi, in which Ukrainians will gladly equip positions in residential areas. How many trillions will be needed to rebuild 10 villages?

[Edik]

Quote from Vrotkompot

Firstly, they occupied our line of defense, which was done very well and now it can only be broken by Fabs.

Enlighten me, so they are holding the defense on the border?

[Vrotkompot]

The line of defense is not built along the border itself and can go tens of kilometers deep.

[suhorukofal]

And they will also do rotation and supply along the defense lines. We have built these lines up to them. You know how inconvenient it is to fight when the ammo runs out, and even more inconvenient when there is food and water.

[Vladimir 290]

Sudzha is a city founded as a fortress that is part of the Belgorod order, not a village.

[suhorukofal]

Quote from Vrotkompot

They occupied our line of defense, which was done very well and now it can only be broken by Fabs. This is what our impotence to recapture what was captured is connected with. Secondly, there are large settlements like Sudzha, in which the Ukrainians are happy to set up positions in residential areas.

Don't confuse yours with ours. Did you come up with the idea of ​​impotence? The fighting is ongoing, the enemy is retreating, suffering losses. I've already written here 100 times that talk about a quick assault is good when you're on a cozy couch, and not going into an unprepared attack. In fact, no matter how much our forces recaptured, you and your comrades would still say that it was not enough. Well, then, according to the manual, sprinkle your head with ashes and cry bitter tears, although the tears may be sincere, the Armed Forces of Ukraine lost a lot there

[Edik]

Quote: suhorukofal

I've already written here 100 times that talk about a quick assault is good when you're on a cozy couch, and not going into an unprepared attack.

Sincerely

[suhorukofal]

Thank you. I just had the "happiness" to be in one. Now I'm really annoyed by such characters, for whom nothing is enough, nothing is fast enough, they are smart about fighting for a separate house. They naturally value their own lives, but they don't count how many strangers there are, for such people it's like coloring pages on a map. Morons..., as Lavrov said.

[Edik]

Quote: suhorukofal

Thank you. I just had the "happiness" to be in one. Now I'm really annoyed by such characters, for whom nothing is enough, nothing is fast enough, they talk smart about fights for a separate house.

I'm like that myself, it's just starting to burst! And how they demand, how they get indignant! In a word.

[Edik]

Erase the warning you will grab! I grabbed it from one picture with Lavrov

[Edik]

Quote: suhorukofal

but they don't count how many strangers there are, for them it's like coloring pages on a map. Morons

When you offer them assistance, so to speak, to be on the front line and show, How we need to fight, they get lost over the horizon. True, first there were illnesses, age, ugh! I saw grandfathers on the front lines who were almost seventy and couldn’t hold on.

[suhorukofal]

You'd meet anyone there, but they tried to pull old men out of the front. For example, to the car. The oldest one we had was the one who worked with generators, it was in Rovenki, they sent him away from the front. A cool guy. He should have been at home watching the news in peace, but he went, I doubt it was for the money.
Although who is he? Here are important people, "dogs of war", they will tell you what fortifications the enemy has, how they fight and how we do not know how. Of course, they themselves will not go, their precious life is not for this, "Mom has only one like that". Some even want a helicopter, they can't lie in the trenches with serfs.

[Edik]

Well, okay, I feel sorry for the guys who are there now! And you try to explain what is happening, but it takes six months for it to sink in. Well, that's when they chew it up in articles and put it in their mouths.

[Alexey Lantukh]

Alas, not everything is as wonderful in Kursk as many write. According to Podolyak Yu, our troops were driven out of Novoivanovka. + Many troops arrived in the Glukhov area on Ukrainian territory. We will see and hope what this will be. According to rough estimates, Kyiv has some reserves. So, "everything is not so, guys," as Vysotsky sang. Hope for our trained reserves, if they exist of course. That's it.

[Andrey VOV]

You found someone to read and listen to, this Podolyak is quite the expert

[Lisa Kerner-Timoshenko]

It turns out that Podolyaka is more of an expert than a certain Mr. Gerassimov!!!!

[Alexey Lantukh]

However, at the end of July Podolyaka wrote about the concentration of troops in Sumy and Kharkov. Kursk was justified. Kharkov was probably false. But the Ministry of Defense has an intelligence department. They should determine more accurately.

[ergh081]

But he is an honest and decent person, and as an expert - he was the first to understand what was going on with Sudzha. The Solov'i and their company were pissing and hissing: "No way! No way to say such things! Panic." They also hid the Chernobyl accident, and in fact it was reported only on May 14, 1986. The TWENTIETH in turn after all the enemy voices. The conscript soldiers volunteered, they were promised early demobilization - how is that?

[suhorukofal]

Quote: ergh081

He was the first to understand what was going on with Sudzha

I listened to him at first SVO, what he didn't understand, what he didn't have. Maybe now he says something different, but after those songs of his now I don't want to listen, I immediately remember 2022

[ergh081]

More than 3 million still read Yu.I. only in Telegram, and there are a decent number of other platforms as well. If there had been a swindler or a liar, they would have run away long ago. And in 2022, everyone lied or made mistakes, especially those who had everything according to plan. By the way, they still lead the troops and the General Staff, and nothing.

[suhorukofal]

I don't want to give him any assessments now. Judging by the reviews, he is one of those who stirred up panic over the events near Kursk.

Quote: ergh081

If he were a swindler or a liar, they would have run away long ago.

It's not a fact, look how many people listen to Solovyov.

[Andrey VOV]

No need to tell stories about the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant

[ergh081]

Is something wrong? Here is the link I relied on: https://dzen.ru/a/XiNLcObLmwCwS3dq?ysclid=m2xf1izz7s82029744
Maybe enemies wrote it?

[Huarabey]

Because this is their last hope for unrest inside Russia and that ours will start withdrawing troops from Donbas. And this is not a decision of a junkie, this is a decision of the striped ones. And they will try to continue to stay there. Now they have already driven a lot of equipment there.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Warabey

Because this is their last hope for unrest within Russia and that our troops will begin to withdraw from Donbass.

This is, to be honest, a kind of hope...
The enemy has invaded, our Army is taking it apart - they mixed the unrest with the wrong yeast. Where is the reason for the unrest?
There was a much more weighty reason - corruption. Well, they slipped Provalny into this case. But you can't lie and be hypocritical like that either, we don't live in the 16th-5th century, we read the Internet - it's organized in a terrible way. And it couldn't be otherwise.
And here... Is this really a reason?

The West doesn't need to stir us up from within, but to see how they themselves will survive. Let's stock up on popcorn - after the American elections, BLM will seem like a children's matinee...

[Huarabey]

"The enemy has invaded, our Army is taking it apart - they mixed the unrest with the wrong yeast. Where is the reason for the unrest?"

What do you mean where? - "How did they allow this to happen?!", "the command sucks!!", "where is the punishment for the guilty?!", "where is - in three days?!" and all that stuff. Even on this resource, the mummers are still pedaling these topics. It's just that without their "successes" in the Kursk region, they have no chance at all to disperse the "discontent". They will fail anyway in the end, but they can hardly hope that another reason will be found.

[Poplar]

Even on this resource, the mummers are still pedaling these themes

I'll tell you more: they even noted themselves in this thread, give him some compote.

[suhorukofal]

Quote: Warabey

Even on this resource, the mummers are still pedaling these themes.

That's not the word, some columns have already been occupied, where they happily give themselves pluses. What is noticeable is that they become more active when they get it on the front lines. It's like a reflex for them - if they fail at the front, then at least they can do a little shit. This idiotic prank is indicative - the RT emblem is covered with a book, that's a victory indicative. Well, shitting on VO is a sweet deal for them, practically on the front lines.

[Dilettante grandfather]

Stock up on popcorn - after the American elections BLM will seem like a children's matinee...

Not popcorn, but seeds. Popcorn is not our product...

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Grandfather is an amateur

Stock up on popcorn - after the American elections BLM will seem like a children's matinee...

Not popcorn, but seeds. Popcorn is not our product...

I use this as a common noun, in general. A term, so to speak.
Personally, I like such news with Kizlyar drinks. Sunflower seeds, well, aren't my thing either.

[Ryaruav]

well, yes, like in 17, all of St. Petersburg was covered in husks

[Alexey Lantukh]

hope for unrest within Russia and that our people will begin to withdraw troops from Donbass.
This is, to be honest, a kind of hope...

The question is about trained and armed reserves: are they there or not? Troops from Donbass? A multi-month offensive and battles. How many fighters and equipment are left in the units? A big question.

[Zoldat_A]

The illegitimate "president" of Ukraine with a Napoleon complex does not intend to listen to anyone's advice.

Comrade psychiatrists! It's your turn!

A completely normal situation for a psyche crippled by substances - he starts to rush about, to commit illogical acts. You can't call him stupid - he understood everything. He will be changed and he is reasonably afraid not only about his honestly saved money, but also about his skin. He twitches like a pig on a rope. He knows that the pig-pusher is already sharpened...

[Orange Bigg]

. Comrades psychiatrists! It's your turn!

It's too early. We'll call you right after the defeat of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

[ALCA056000]

Khakhly, have you realized that even your clown doesn't need you? Take off the pots and pans and start doing something before they completely ruin you! Or have they grown on you and you can't tear them off?

[Lisa Kerner-Timoshenko]

Ukrainians even too stupid to remove the pans!!!!

[APASUS]

As the TG channel “Legitimny” writes, at headquarters Zelensky stated that for him “it is more important to control 100 square kilometers of Kursk territory than 10.000 square kilometers in Donbass.”

and 10 grams of coke are more important than any regions and areas of Ukraine.................such is the harsh reality

[Russ]

I'll say more... Ze and the country itself are not important... business, nothing personal....

[Rage66]

For me, Kursk region is more important than Donbass

It doesn't take much courage to reason from Kuev

[wedmed5]

In Sumy Oblast x0xль! they are pulling together large forces. Lots of equipment and manpower. There will definitely be a powerful attempt to expand the Kursk bridgehead, or to enter somewhere else, in another place. I hope we won't oversleep this time.

[Lisa Kerner-Timoshenko]

Wake up Mr. Gerassimov there at the General Staff!!!!

[Sergei Timofeich]

They don’t even report to the drug addict Fuhrer what kind of pig-slaughtering is going on in the Kursk region, they are afraid to disturb the parish....

[Romanenko]

Zelensky refused to withdraw troops from the territory of the Russian region

And no need, they will rot there, on top of the German fascists.

[Igor Belobrov]

A junkie is a junkie... He sniffed and became very brave.

[Comrade Beria]

Over the past 300 hours, the Ukrainian Armed Forces lost more than XNUMX servicemen, four combat armored vehicles were destroyed, as well as eight artillery pieces, four mortars, an Israeli-made RADA radar station, and nine vehicles.

MO.

This is how it was before on the Kursk land, and this is how it will be now, with the difference that the khokhls will not see their graves, their fate is to lie around in the plantings and be eaten by wild pigs.

[Lisa Kerner-Timoshenko]

...and I laugh every day: on German websites they give a daily "Ukrinform report"...they don't report "that the Russians will lose 16000 soldiers daily", and the Banderites have no losses...i.e. they are silent about them

[Igor Korbut]

The withdrawal of the Ukrainian Armed Forces from the Kursk region means a complete failure for Zelensky in the confrontation with the Russian Armed Forces
Consequently, he will no longer have to account for the defeat of 30 thousand soldiers, and his new plans for “victory” will be ridiculed by his own people.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

he is a fool after all
Yes, a small comment, what else can I write here?

[Lisa Kerner-Timoshenko]

It's good that the former comedian receives not only money and weapons, but also a large amount of cocaine from the West

[ergh081]

It is quite obvious that Ze and Co have already said goodbye to Donbass and do not perceive it as part of their country.

[Ezekiel 25-17]

Well then, all our enemies who are there will have to die.

[Petr_Koldunov]

It's understandable: while they are in the Kursk region, they can at least eat from Pyaterochka with a decent selection of food, which they couldn't even dream of... but when they leave, they'll have to go back to their general stores and eat whatever they can get their hands on.

[Alexander_Davydenko]

Is it just me or do you also think that Zelensky is an agent of the Kremlin, recruited back during his New Year's corporate parties and blue lights on Russian TV? After all, it is obvious that he is leading his country to destruction! What is he hoping for?

[SkepticOptimist]

Quote: mann

Quote: IGU

There is little reason to be happy so far. The Ukrainian Armed Forces are concentrating significant forces in the region. I hope this fun doesn't backfire. I hope that after the first time, lessons were learned. Otherwise, it will be really sad.

Since 1985 we have been ruled by poor students who are incapable of learning lessons.

Not only do they rule: they are nearby, there are many of them! All these turbo/hurray/pseudo-patriots/hat-throwers are minus-voters of common sense, logic, arguments, facts, figures and documents.

[Konnick]

They don't just rule: they are there

And pensioners zombified by television, of which there are many on this site...

[spectr]

According to a source at Bankova, Zelensky’s decision is in no way connected with strategy, it was not even close to it.

From the point of view of the accepted tactics of war (inflicting maximum damage, material and non-material), it makes sense.
1. Seizure of the Kursk Nuclear Power Plant.
2. Create a serious ledge from which to strike deep into Russia.
3. Try to bring the ledge closer to Moscow and raise a stir in the press.

[Alexander Igorevich Rifeev]

These words objectively suggest that the SVO is the so-called "contractual" war .... Zelensky and VVP act strictly according to the rules and conditions dictated by the Washington Regional Committee .... VVP is doing everything to prevent the military defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the fall of Zelensky's Bandera regime in Ukraine .... and Zelensky is acting in such a way that the Russian Federation does not experience final disappointment in the course of the SVO and the overthrow of VVP's completely incompetent regime .... Zelensky and VVP are still very much needed by Washington in Kyiv and the Kremlin .... in the place of Zelensky and his generals in June 2023, during Prigozhin's mutiny, a smart general or a real politician would have immediately launched a military raid on Moscow and would have ended the war with his victory .... but the Washington Regional Committee forbade Zelensky to do anything in the direction of Moscow - the overthrow of VVP is not in the interests of the American administration of President Biden ...

[tralmaster]

If you attach horns, it's definitely the devil. Although they might grow on their own soon.

[el_ninio163]

Again we quote FSB channels..

Such information is worth a dime

[matsur]

He still hopes to have at least one square kilometer of Russian land by the time of the negotiations. I'm afraid the negotiations will never happen, as long as this is the case. The only sober thoughts there are from the arrest officer. I watched two interviews with him - the hosts' complete pessimism is obvious to the naked eye.
As cannibalistic as it may sound, nothing will work without knocking out energy facilities with Kalibres and other Iskanders - the people are still ready to endure everything, just to win (they seem to still believe in this).
The States dropped two nuclear bombs, not caring about the Japanese, and they immediately surrendered, but now we don't want to leave them without heat and light. I'll repeat myself - I don't like this idea, but the main task is to finish everything as quickly as possible. Otherwise, Western money will be invested in weapons, and not in restoring energy, warm clothes, fuel and diesel generators. So by next summer everything will start spinning again.

[Alexander Pankow]

He can be understood. Hoping for the return of Novorossiya has already passed, this is clear to him, especially since after the atrocities committed there by the Khokhloraikh, hoping for the loyalty of Novorossiya is an empty old man. Therefore, he refuses