Eurofighter Typhoon FGR4 aka EF2000

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The Eurofighter Typhoon is a twin-engine multipurpose 4 generation fighter with a duck scheme and a delta wing. Late modifications of this fighter belong to the 4 + or 4 ++ generation. Typhoon is developed and manufactured by Eurofighter GmbH, which was established by the consortium Alenia Aeronautica, EADSM and BAE Systems in 1986. Development of a promising aircraft began in the year 1979.



Typhoon - a unique combat aircraft, produced in four versions: one option for each country within the consortium (Britain, Germany, Italy and Spain). At the same time, all the contracting companies are engaged in the production of units for each of the 620 aircraft.
The members of the consortium are engaged in the production of the following elements of a multi-purpose fighter:
AleniaAeronautica - rear fuselage section, external flaperones, left wing;
BAE Systems - the rear section of the fuselage, the front part of the fuselage (including PGO), gargrot, flashlight, tail stabilizer, internal flaperons;
EADS Deutschland - center section, the central part of the fuselage;
EADS CASA - slats, right wing.

Design features of EF2000 reflect the desire of designers to use the latest advances in the field of electronics and aircraft. To ensure the required level of maneuvering characteristics, especially at high angles of attack, the fighter was designed according to a scheme with a low-lying triangular wing (the sweep was 53 degrees), a negative margin of stability, two-section slats and flaps, a rotary front horizontal tail, vertical keel and rudder without a stabilizer. This scheme has several advantages, the main of which is the reduction of resistance at supersonic speeds.

The front edge of the front horizontal tail is made of radio absorbing material.

Although the new fighter does not belong to the category of aircrafts made using the stealth technology, during its design several structural-layout measures were taken which were aimed at reducing the effective scattering surface. During the design, the task was to reduce the effective scattering surface from the front views of the radar systems by four times compared with the similar value of the Tornado aircraft.

Such measures include: recessed air intakes and engine input masks masked by the input devices (a significant source of electromagnetic radiation reflection). Some structural elements of the aircraft, which are important in reflectivity (the bearing planes and the leading edges of the horizontal tail and stabilizer) have a large scale, which is why they have good reflectivity in the leading sector. External suspensions of guided missiles are semi-submerged, which makes it possible to partially shield the structure of the aircraft from the incident EM radiation of the suspension of the missiles.

The reflectivity-leading structural elements and sections of the Eurofighter fighter are covered with radio absorbing materials, mainly developed by the EADS / DASA concern. Among them: the leading edge of the wing, the inner surfaces and the entrance edges of the air intakes, the rudder, as well as the adjacent surfaces and the like.



In the design of the aircraft, various carbon plastic materials are used to make 40 percent of the mass of the airframe, aluminum-lithium alloys (Al-Li 8090) - 20%, aluminum alloys - 18%, titanium alloys - 12% and fiberglass - 10%. Carbon plastics account for 70 percent of the airframe surface, 12% - fiberglass make up, 15% - metal, 3% - other structural materials. The contract stipulates that the weight of an empty aircraft should not exceed 9999 kg. In the future, it is possible to use advanced aluminum-lithium alloys. The design life of the structure is 6 thousand hours.

Fuselage-type semi-monocoque. Pilot from small-arms fire weapons Medium caliber partially protects invoice cockpit armor. Frameless one-piece protruding lantern gives a good overview.

On the fighter, single tail finning is used which has a large area with a rudder. The root of the keel is equipped with an air intake of the heat exchanger of the cooling system.

Wing mechanization - flaperon section and hanging elevons, as well as deflecting socks section on each console. The wing skin is made of carbon fiber (deflectable socks and containers at the ends of the wing, made of aluminum-lithium alloys).

The area of ​​the front horizontal tail - 2,40 m2. For its manufacture mainly used carbon fiber.

The tricycle landing gear of the aircraft has one-wheel struts. The main pillars are retracted in the direction of the fuselage, the front pillar is forward. The design of the tires and chassis is optimized for action even with coarsely repaired concrete runways, as well as for landing without leveling. But in order to eliminate problems with the heating of the wheel disks during intensive braking, the required length of the lanes, which was, according to the original plans, 500 meters, was increased to 700 meters. For emergency braking the aircraft is equipped with a braking parachute.

The engine development program (EFA-Programm) was launched in the 1983 year. Based on the engine used RB 199 used on a multi-purpose aircraft "Tornado". According to other sources, the engine was created on the basis of an experimental Rolls-Royce XG.40. his bench tests were conducted in the 1988 year.

In 1986, the EurojetTurboGmbH consortium was founded to develop, design, and then produce the EJ200 engines. Founders of the consortium: Rolls-Royce (UK), ITP (Spain), FiatAvio (Italy) and MTU AeroEngines (Germany). EurojetTurboGmbH was located in the town of Hallbergmoos, a suburb of Munich, and is bound by treaties with the agency NETMA (NATO), which in turn is a partner of all the listed countries.

EJ200 is a two-circuit twin-shaft turbofan engine with an afterburner. The design of the engine uses single-crystal turbine blades, disks made of powder materials, an all-digital digital control system, brush seals, and an integrated diagnostic system. Composite materials are widely used for stationary engine parts. The combustion chamber of the engine has a thermally insulating coating made of ceramic material.




The fighter uses an unregulated ventral air intake with rectangular lateral edges and a curvilinear lower edge divided into two channels by a vertical partition (supplying air to each turbofans), having a deflectable lower and fixed upper panel.

According to the intergovernmental agreement of the states, Germany, Great Britain, Spain and Italy pledged to participate in the joint development and manufacture of the engine for the Eurofighter Typhoon fighter. The engine is modular. On average, it takes 45 minutes to dismantle it.

Engine Specifications:
Traction dry - 6120 kgf;
Traction on afterburner - 9097 kgf;
Fuel consumption in open-running mode from 0,745 to 0,813 kg / kgf per hour;
Afterburner fuel consumption from 1,65 to 1,72 kg / kgf per hour;
Before the turbine, the gas temperature is 1840 ° K;
Air consumption - 76 kg / s;
Input diameter - 740 mm;
Length - 4 m;
Weight - 989 kg;
The assigned resource is 6 thousand hours;
The overhaul life is 1 thousand hours.

The fuel is located in the fuselage, keel and wing in the protected tanks. On the central and a pair of underwing nodes of the external suspension are suspended fuel tanks, with a capacity of 1500 l and 1000 l, respectively. Also in the fighter provides a system for refueling in flight.



Electro-distance flight control system is quadruplex adaptive, it has no reserve mechanical wiring. Provides artificial stability of the aircraft and safe piloting on the ultimate mode and high maneuverability.

The armament control system includes an infrared front view system PIRATE and a multi-mode coherent pulse Doppler radar ECR90.

EF2000 is equipped with an inertial navigation system with laser ring gyroscopes, a helmet-sight-indicator, equipment for identifying and determining the priority of the enemy's means of attack, calculators of defensive and offensive maneuvers and the area of ​​possible use of weapons.

The DASS defense system is the most expensive part of the electronic equipment created for the European destroyer. The system provides assessment and synthesis of data received from the receivers of laser and radar radiation, other sensors, and automatic activation of the necessary active (towed decoys, transmitters of interference) and passive means of protection. Containers with equipment are located at the ends of the wing consoles.

The fighter "EF2000" has no internal weapons bays. Instead, there are external suspension assemblies that degrade the performance of the EPR, however, allow you to expand the options and range of weapons used.

On the fighter thirteen knots external suspension. Typical weapons are 4 medium-range guided missiles AIM-120 AMRAAM, Skyflash (on British aircraft) or Aspid (on Italian aircraft) deployed in a semi-submerged position under the fuselage, and 2 short-range guided ASRAAM or AIM-9 Sidewinder located on the extreme wing nodes. The total number of air-to-air missiles to 10 units, however, the take-off mass of the fighter, even with such armament, should not exceed 18140 kg (40 kips). Suspended fuel tanks can be placed on 3 external suspension nodes. The aircraft is equipped with a Mauser cannon caliber 27 mm.





When performing shock operations, the aircraft on seven suspension nodes can be placed up to 6500 a kilogram of bombs, as well as 6 air-to-air guided missiles. The combat radius of action for the fight for air superiority can be more than 1000 kilometers, while performing a shock operation on a profile, a small-small height of 325 kilometers, on a large-small profile, 1000 kilometers. An air-to-air plane can patrol in the air for 3 hours 15 minutes.

For the fighter designed semi-conforming outboard fuel tanks. Under one fuselage suspension assembly can be placed laser rangefinder-pointer. At the wing tips, in containers are located the REB equipment and blocks of infrared traps.

The fighter production is divided into three tranches - 148 / 236 / 236 units (total 620 aircraft) for four States Parties (United Kingdom - 232, Germany - 180, Italy - 121 and Spain - 87). In the Air Force of the four participating States, the Tranche-1 aircraft began to arrive in the summer of 2003. In turn, the aircraft of each tranche are divided into lots and blocks, for example, the first tranche of two-seater aircraft for the British Air Force is divided into two lots, T1 and T1A. The first aircraft entered the 17 squadron in 2003 year. There, the first batch of aircraft carefully studied and tested. The first typhoons officially entered the Air Force on July 1 2005. The number of EF-2000 fighters delivered in the first tranche is currently 148 units.

The consortium in 2002 concluded the first export contract with the Austrian government for 18 fighter aircraft of the Tranche-2 modification in the amount of 2,55 billion dollars (1,95 billion euros). However, the Austrian Ministry of Defense and Eurofighter in June 2007 reached an agreement on reducing the ordered aircraft to 15 units and changing the modification from Tranche-2 to Tranche-1. Given the contract for the supply of Saudi 72 fighter aircraft, the program EF-2000 today includes the production of 707 fighter for six customers.

Agreement on the production and supply of Tranche-2 program countries signed 14 December 2004 g. The first aircraft of this version of 16 January 2008 took off at EADC in Manching.

Initially, the aircraft met the standard “F2 Tranche 1” (“F2 Model 1”), which intended to use aircraft exclusively in air battles against the enemy aviation. However, in order to engage fighters in Afghanistan, it was necessary to fully realize the possibility of destroying ground targets. In July 2008, the Typhoon was declared a multi-role fighter capable of effectively destroying both air and ground targets. The car received the abbreviation FGR4 (T3 - two-seat version of the aircraft). The full modernization of all F2 fighters to the FGR4 level was planned to be completed by the end of 2012.

Tranche-2 airplanes from the Tranche-1 are distinguished by a reinforced chassis, a new on-board computer, an improved avionics package and advanced air-to-ground weapons systems.



Now signed an agreement to create 40 fighter «Tranche 3». Taking into account the fighters of the previous models, the British Air Force will have 107 machines "Eurofighter Typhoon" up to 2030.

Multipurpose fighters of the Tranche-3 version will receive a conformal fuel tanks, an upgraded on-board computer, an engine with increased traction, a new software package and a radar with a phased antenna array.

Modifications fighter:
Block 1 - Tranche 1, the initial version of the fighter;
Block 2 - Tranche 1, air combat fighter;
Block 5 - Tranche 1, a multi-purpose version of the fighter (there is the possibility of attacking ground targets);
Block 8 - Tranche 2, fighter jets with a new on-board computer;
Block 10 - Tranche 2, fighter with EOC 1, IFF Mode 5, improved DASS, Rangeless ACMI, IRIS-T digital, URVV - AIM-120C-5 AMRAAM, URVZ- GBU-24, GPS-guided weapons, Paveway III & IV , ALARM, Rafael Litening III;
Block 15 - Tranche 2, fighter with EOC 2, URVZ - TAURUS, URVV METEOR, Brimstone, Storm Shadow;
Block 20 - Tranche 2, fighter with EOC 3;
Typhoon S - serial version for the participating countries with the exception of the UK;
Typhoon T1 - training double version for the British Air Force;
Typhoon F2 - single fighter for the British Air Force;
Typhoon T3 - a training double version of the Block 5 modification for the UK;
Typhoon FGR4 is a multipurpose modification of the Block 5 variant for the British Air Force. The modernization was reduced to the installation of new suspended target designation systems, which were developed by the Israeli company Rafael and the replenishment of ammunition with guided bombs weighing 450 kilograms (1000 pounds). The bombs of EnhancedPaveway II and Paveway II are produced by the American company Raytheon. These bombs have a laser-guided system, but with EnhancedPaveway II, this system is complemented by a GPS-guided system. The effectiveness of the “work” on the ground targets of the modernized Typhoon was checked during the joint British-American exercises Green Flag in Nevada.

As of 2011, the aircraft is in service:
Austria - 15 Typhoon;
United Kingdom - 86 Typhoon;
Germany - 55 Typhoon;
Italy - 62 Typhoon;
Spain - 32 Typhoon;
In 2012, Saudi Arabia adopted the 24 Typhoon;
In the same year, Oman ordered the Typhoon 12 Tranche 3 series (delivered in the 2017 year).



Aircraft performance characteristics:
Crew - 1 / 2 person (F.2, FGR.4 / T.1, T.1A);
The length of the aircraft - 15,96 m;
Wingspan - 10,95 m;
The height of the aircraft - 5,28 m;
Wing area - 50 m²;
The leading edge sweep angle - 55o;
The coefficient of elongation of the wing - 2,2;
Empty weight - 11000 kg;
The curb weight of the aircraft - 15550 kg;
Maximum take-off weight - 23500 kg;
The mass of fuel in the internal tanks - 4000 kg;
The mass of fuel in the outboard fuel tanks - l 1x1500 l, 2x1200 l;
Engine - Two Eurojet EJ 200 TRDDF
Maximum thrust of one engine - 6120 kgf (60 kN);
Specific fuel consumption - 0,76 kg per kg / hour;
Single engine at afterburner - 9180 kgf (90 kN);
Specific fuel consumption at afterburner - 1,7 kg per kgf / h;
Maximum speed at height - 2450 km / h (Mach 2,0);
Maximum ground speed is 1400 km / h (Mach 1,2):
Run / Run Length - 700 m;
The range in fighter mode is 1390 km;
The range of action in the shock aircraft - 600 km;
Maximum (distillation) flight range - 3790 km;
Maximum operating overload - 9;
Practical ceiling - 19812 m;
Rate of climb - more than 315 m / s;
Acceleration time from 370 to 1200 km / h - 30 seconds;
Wing load - 311 kg / m²;
Thrust-to-1,18;
Cannon armament:
- Mauser gun BK-27 caliber 27 millimeters, located in the root of the right half wing;
Combat load - 6500 kg;
Suspension points - 13;
Missile armament:
“Air-to-air” - AIM-9 Sidewinder, AIM-120 AMRAAM, AIM-132 ASRAAM, IRIS-T, in perspective MBDA Meteor;
Air-to-ground - StormShadow, AGM-84 Harpoon, ALARM, AGM-88 HARM, Brimstone, Penguin, Taurus, in the future AGMArmiger;
Bombs: Paveway 2, Paveway 3, JDAM, EnhancedPaveway, HOPE / HOSBO;
Laser target designation system - “Litening”;
Avionics:
Radio-location system: CAPTOR, with 2010 - active phased array CAESAR;
OLS PIRATE.





Based on materials:
http://ru-aviation.livejournal.com
http://www.airwar.ru
http://pro-samolet.ru
http://www.best-army.ru
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  1. +3
    12 March 2013 10: 20
    Judging by the commercial, all sorts of SUs, MIGs and others quietly smoke on the sidelines. And the missile launcher destroyed by the latter just sucks! The great thing is the movie. That's just in real life this will not happen most likely. It’s not visible at all air shows of these miracle planes. Especially in the air. Very secret?
    1. Capt.stryker
      +7
      12 March 2013 10: 42
      Quote: hohryakov066
      It’s not visible at all air shows of these miracle planes. Especially in the air. Very secret?

      Do you regularly visit all kinds of air shows? Type Air Tatu, Farnobo, Le Bourget, ILA, and all sorts of other air shows in the u-tube, and you will be happy to see this plane, especially in the air. wink
    2. BruderV
      +4
      12 March 2013 11: 19
      Well, they do commercials with us too. It's not so spectacular, of course, they probably even shot Hollywood directors, because the full apocalypse is Armageddonovich on the video. But Chuck Norris in the pilot's seat is clearly not enough. Saved the meanie. What is it about afterburner weaving that he flies faster than a rocket?
    3. +3
      12 March 2013 11: 31
      hohryakov066,
      Well, let's start with the fact that in real life neither SU nor MiG did not check anyone, but those that were old conflicts were not in their favor. As I once wrote all this comparison, this is a Spherical horse in a vacuum.
      http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=109428
      In Western forums, this plane is highly praised. As far as I understand, there were training fights with F-16, F-18, F-15, Harrier, in Mirage and he won.


      1. Gemar
        +1
        12 March 2013 18: 15
        Quote: Atrix
        As far as I understood there were training fights with F-16, F-18, F-15, Harrier

        About that I won against F-16, F-18, F-15 (in the BVB) I heard, but ... with Harrier - it's cool! wink
        Cool photos! +++ good
      2. Kir
        0
        12 March 2013 19: 06
        Correctly praise the Westerners, it’s only with us that it’s customary to water our own. And by the way, what about the old conflicts that were not in our favor, whose pilots let me ask were? It’s just what’s interesting, even on commercials (western) our something is not a complete assortment of aerobatics that our people are capable of showing what it is for, is it not that their cars are simply not capable of it, and indeed they simply don’t have pilots of this level.
        Unfortunately I could not attach the video but here is the link www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItSAPdmFFuY
        And the author Peter Ulyakin thanks for the good article!
        1. +1
          12 March 2013 21: 19
          Kir,
          That is, if the pilots are not ours, then the planes are bad? And if ours are good? Complete nonsense. As for whether it is better to have high maneuverability or better electronics and we are glad to have a moot point, now missile launches can be completed in 100 km and maneuverability will not help you much, but good EW and radars will be the first to notice the target (my opinion). As for the pilots, there is no need to bear the nonsense about the fact that there are bad pilots, just the pilots there fly much more often and train more often, and much more combat experience is with western pilots. But this does not mean that our pilots are bad, just before it was not possible to fly as many as pilots in the USA and Europe.
          So this is again pseudo-patriotic nonsense and hatred that in the West weapons are bad and there are no good military men, but only in Russia there are super soldiers and weapons having no analogues smile
          1. Kir
            0
            12 March 2013 21: 57
            No, it means so, if our pilots were not the fact that it was not in our favor, but about hat-assiduity, well, it seems like real warriors are only Germans and Austrians, and they were beaten. By the way, with all due respect to electronics. do not you think that it is too much to overestimate that the average squalor is super ......., it is better to cope than an extra class master with normal equipment.
            1. -2
              12 March 2013 23: 46
              Kir,
              And what do you think is "averaged squalor with super .." and what is "extra class master with normal equipment" If you're talking about pilots again, then I already answered that Western pilots are mostly better trained than Russian ones. And if you think this plane is poor, then the SU-30 is at its level. Well, if our terminators and super pilots piloted, then of course there were no losses in 2008. 3 Su-25s and 1 Tu-22M3 probably weren't Russian pilots. So stop talking nonsense about super people in Russia, one also thought that his nation was over people, you think you know how it ended for him.
      3. +1
        12 March 2013 21: 04
        Quote: Atrix
        In Western forums, this plane is highly praised. As far as I understand, there were training fights with F-16, F-18, F-15, Harrier, in Mirage and he won.

        In the BVB, he can even compete with the F-22. But it does not matter much. Now everything is decided by the DVB, and here Typhoon is still inferior to Rafal, and possibly Super Hornet. But in general, the plane is beautiful.
        1. 0
          12 March 2013 21: 23
          Odysseus,
          I do not argue, I just wrote what I read. And I think the F-22 in any case will be inferior at the moment it is the most advanced serial aircraft, while there are no planes of its level, just do not need to write here about the PAK FA.
          1. 0
            13 March 2013 09: 49
            Quote: Atrix
            And F-22, I think in any case it will be inferior at the moment it is the most advanced serial aircraft, while there are no planes of its level,

            In DVB, of course, it will be very much inferior. But the Europeans themselves do not claim equality with the F-22.
    4. Windbreak
      +2
      12 March 2013 16: 16
      Promotional video concern Almaz-Antey.
  2. BruderV
    +1
    12 March 2013 10: 55
    AleniaAeronautica - rear fuselage section, external flaperones, left wing;
    BAE Systems - the rear section of the fuselage, the front part of the fuselage (including PGO), gargrot, flashlight, tail stabilizer, internal flaperons;

    What nonsense, even the manufacture of a glider is equally divided between the participating countries. It is interesting that the Italian rivets for 5 minutes at the assembly, then the Germans turn for 5 minutes ...))) Are the rivets themselves equally divided from each side? Only additional troubles with quality control, logistics, supply chains and standardization. It was easier not to have engines from one side, from another avionics, from a third glider, from a fourth armament?
    1. 0
      12 March 2013 11: 28
      The thing is that they have no problems with the interchangeability of parts.

      Quote: BruderV
      It was easier not to have engines from one side, from another avionics, from a third glider, from a fourth armament?


      Maybe it was possible, but they prefer to support their producers, even at the cost of some loss.
  3. +1
    12 March 2013 11: 21
    And this wundernwaffle costs $ 123 million and the MIG-35 with the same characteristics $ 45 million.
    SU-35 which is in a different class and to which he has received $ 85 million.
    1. Gemar
      +1
      12 March 2013 11: 52
      Quote: concept1
      And this wundnrwaffle is worth $ 123 million

      Well, yes, the price difference is significant! good + + +
      Quote: concept1
      MIG-35 with the same characteristics

      Well, the MiG’s range is slightly inferior (although the engines have MayfunaA typhoon is consumed no less than our MiG), but the load is also (although I doubt that with a maximum load of 7500, the Typhoon is capable of maneuverable WB) ... However, the price difference is already 3 times! And the increased range is clearly achieved thanks to the widespread use of carbon fiber reinforced plastics, I do not see any advantages in the engines ... And is it worth it to make the plane light and less noticeable, but so expensive?
      By the way, what's up with the Typhoon's radar? Can compete with "Zhuk-A"? It seems to me not ... Although the Indians criticized "Zhuk-A" and RD-33, it seems that the Europeans will have more modest achievements!
      1. 0
        12 March 2013 12: 42
        It seems that AFAR is also worth it, but I did not find the characteristics!
        Engines with OVT, but again, specialist comments need not much info!
        1. BruderV
          +1
          12 March 2013 14: 49
          Quote: concept1
          It seems that AFAR is also worth it, but I did not find the characteristics!

          Only since 2010.
          Quote: concept1
          OVT engines

          Where's that? I do not see point blank!
          1. 0
            12 March 2013 16: 38
            BruderV,
            http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/business/upgraded-eurofighter-offered-to-ind

            ian-air-force_100298763.html
            Equipment EJ200s twin-engine Typhoon with nozzle thrust vector control (TVNs) can reduce fuel consumption on typical missions by up to 5 percent with increased traction available in supersonic cruising mode to 7 percent, the statement said. (Rough translation from Googla)


          2. Sleptsoff
            +1
            12 March 2013 16: 40
            You do not see, and they are really with the ovt.
            1. BruderV
              -1
              12 March 2013 16: 58
              Quote from Sleptsoff
              they really with ovt

              Yes, that is right.
              1. lx
                lx
                +4
                12 March 2013 18: 23
                ATS is there only at the stand - there is no ATS on a typhoon.
                1. Capt.stryker
                  +2
                  12 March 2013 20: 29
                  Quote: lx
                  ATS is there only at the stand - there is no ATS on a typhoon.

                  Who put in a minus comrade? On the Typhoons, there really is no OVT, not yet. On some next "block" it will certainly appear, but not on all.
                  And the fact that the "typhoon" flies so beautifully is due to its good aerodynamics and sophisticated EDSU, but not to take away the controlled nozzle. So the heavier "Super Hornet" without any EDSU gives out amazing feints in the sky.
                  1. lx
                    lx
                    0
                    13 March 2013 00: 49
                    I do not indulge in minuses :) and I could not - only this comment was 10m. About necessarily - not a fact. Yes, and do not exaggerate the value of OVT. The FA-18 is far from being the most maneuverable American aircraft to compare with it. Typhoon first wins due to the fact that it is statically unstable, and it’s difficult to cope with this thing without EMF
                  2. Capt.stryker
                    0
                    13 March 2013 08: 37
                    Quote: Capt.Stryker
                    "Super Hornet" without any EDSU

                    I stumbled in this place, I wanted to write OVT, but it turned out how it happened.
          3. 0
            27 December 2017 21: 53
            there is no OBE yet, they are designing it, but it’s shitty. Although Rolls-Royce. Apparently a very off-profile task. But in general, the yesterday’s generation aircraft, the MIG and F-16, are nothing superior, but most likely inferior to them, although younger
      2. -1
        12 March 2013 13: 29
        Guys, well, you can’t compare prices like this:
        Look at the dollar-ruble exchange rate.
        And then recalculate the production cost of each specific aircraft for the producing country.
        Now, if for sale, then yes -MiG-35 out of competition in this case.
        1. BruderV
          +1
          12 March 2013 13: 44
          Quote: Simple
          Look at the dollar-ruble exchange rate.
          And then recalculate the production cost of each specific aircraft for the producing country.

          What for??? So in America I’ll buy one chocolate for a dollar, and in Russia 30? )))) In your opinion, the exchange rate is so determined?
          1. +2
            12 March 2013 15: 47
            BruderV,

            Shokladka made in Russia or the USA?
            1. BruderV
              +6
              12 March 2013 16: 21
              Who cares? If you are trying to say that labor and resources are cheaper in Russia, then the price for resources is already everywhere in the market, and the share of salaries in such high-tech products as modern IFIs is generally a drop. Ask about the cost of Chinese technology, it’s not much lower. We were just lucky that the Union received practically for nothing fundamental research and developments, on which everything still holds. If everything had been created from scratch in market conditions, then the astronomical sums of the development cost that would have to be included in the final cost of the product would have come out. But the Europeans do it. How many failed and unpromising projects were there? Their cost also needs to be written off somewhere. Yes, and commercials in the style of Rambo action film with special effects for the temptation of Arab sheikhs today are not cheap. Well, marketing. For example, the Emirates bought Leclerc only for reasons that expensive cannot simply be bad.
              1. 0
                12 March 2013 18: 33
                BruderV,

                You are right in this comment.
                But, once again, to have Russia with 45 of millions of dollars is like (let's take Germany for example) for Germany to have 90 of millions of dollars, roughly speaking.
          2. terp 50
            0
            20 March 2013 12: 33
            ... on the contrary, True, they have chocolate, they have some kind of “plastic” taste, so it’s not worth it. And the course has nothing to do with it. There is still the purchasing power of money.
    2. 0
      12 March 2013 20: 22
      Quote: concept1
      And this wundernwaffle costs $ 123 million and the MIG-35 with the same characteristics $ 45 million.
      And now let's compare the cost of operating the MiG-35 fleet and EF for the entire life of the fleet ...
    3. -1
      13 March 2013 10: 04
      Quote: concept1
      SU-35 which is in a different class and to which he has received $ 85 million

      It is completely incomprehensible why it is so far from Typhoon to the Su-35?
      1. 0
        27 December 2017 21: 58
        It is said in another class. SU and f-15 - heavy fighters. AFAR is wider, the carrying capacity is greater, the flight capabilities are different, and the price, respectively. A light fighter is more expensive than a heavy fighter
  4. 0
    12 March 2013 12: 12
    A plastic airplane was heavily advertised in Libya through combat use on ground targets.
    1. Suvorov000
      +2
      12 March 2013 12: 32
      Why wouldn’t it be advertised there in the complete absence of air defense?
      1. 0
        12 March 2013 13: 08
        Air defense in the video can be finished)))
    2. +1
      12 March 2013 18: 24
      like "Rafale"
  5. +1
    12 March 2013 15: 29
    In general, judging by the Austrian contract, 125000000 million shares. And this is for the old 2nd version (fighter only)
  6. Vital 33
    0
    12 March 2013 16: 37
    Well, it seems like a good device. Before this was Rafal, I also liked it. Although Rafal has a much bigger load. I wonder which one is better. Specialists, what do you say?
    1. lx
      lx
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      12 March 2013 18: 07
      Comparing such things in absentia is a thankless task (as it was rightly noted above, it turns out "a spherical horse in a vacuum"). According to the declared characteristics, the typhoon has a slightly better thrust-to-weight ratio, the Raphael has a larger combat radius and load and, in general, more opportunities to work on the surface, plus a deck version. Although they promise for the typhoon (in the article an error that it has already been supplied since 2010) a more powerful AFAR than that of Rafal, but Rafal already has it and will be further modernized, and CAESAR has now been pushed back to 2015 and that there will really be another grandmother in two said. It is curious that the French THALES makes OLS for both, but in reality they are different products - in Rafal it is much cooler
      http://www.thalesgroup.com/Portfolio/Documents/PIRATE_-_Passive_Infra-Red_Airbor
      ne_Track_Equipment /
      http://www.thalesgroup.com/Portfolio/Documents/FSO_-_Front_Sector_Optronics/
      Well, a bunch of other little things. There is also unofficial data from exercises such as the rad flag, that Rafal was giving typhoon something like 7-1 in Dogfight, but how true this is is unknown.
    2. 0
      12 March 2013 18: 23
      now Rafale is better, but Typhoon is better in the future
      1. 0
        27 December 2017 22: 04
        both are worse. Aircraft of yesterday, the level of the USA of the 70s and the USSR of the beginning of the 80s, I mean the Falcon and the MIG, which in modernized versions are at least as good as these remodels
  7. +1
    12 March 2013 18: 46
    Of course, the Heropeians could be congratulated on the fact that at the end they mastered the technologies (OB and AF) of the USSR, which have not been in existence for 20 years. But I won’t! Because I'm 100% sure that they just stole them in Russia in the 90th! laughing
  8. +1
    12 March 2013 21: 06
    A wonderful plane, but still in the complex a little worse than Rafal.
    But the enemy is very serious.
    1. +1
      13 March 2013 00: 10
      So far, Rafal is worse, but the second tranches will already work normally on the ground, the first are in the air defense configuration, and then he will receive all the options that allow him to surpass Rafal. The problems with the Typhoon are that NATO members have reduced their air force to the point that if one of the countries during the same war in Libya, then either the war in the air stops immediately, or the country's air defense is exposed. For example, Britain at that time was not threatened, but theoretically there were not enough "typhoons" for everything at once, It's not even the number of aircraft, and more in a small number of pilots. In a conflict in which the losses among the Typhoon crews will undermine the combat effectiveness of the aviation as a whole, and it will be impossible to train them in a short time, because not the Spitfire.
      1. lx
        lx
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        13 March 2013 00: 53
        hmm, what are the options to "beat the Rafale"? in what way can it, in principle, surpass rafal when working on the surface?
      2. 0
        13 March 2013 10: 00
        Quote: tomket
        So far worse than rafal, but the second tranches will already work normally on the ground, the first go in the air defense configuration, and then he will get all the options to surpass Rafal

        You can figure-Rafal’s ESR is plus / equal, Rafal’s radar is obviously better, the electronic warfare is difficult to compare, but they write that Rafal’s is better, so I’d be modest when I wrote that Rafal was a little better. Most likely the new radar with AFAR on Typhoon only equalizes opportunities. But I agree that Typhoon has more modernization opportunities.
  9. jjj
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    13 March 2013 00: 05
    The more you get acquainted with the state of affairs in Western military aviation, the more and more the belief grows that our respective services did a very good job at the end of the past century
  10. Director
    +4
    18 March 2013 03: 55
    It’s boring, not interesting. The left wing in Spain is the right wing in Germany, so negative