Kadyrov orders Chechen units not to take Ukrainian prisoners in response to drone attack

Chechen military will no longer take Ukrainian soldiers prisoner; Ramzan Kadyrov gave the corresponding order.

Chechen leader comments on today's attack drone at the Special Forces University in Gudermes, in a conversation with journalists, stating that he had given orders to the commanders of the detachments from the republic not to take prisoners. According to him, Kyiv wanted to intimidate Chechnya with this attack, but achieved the opposite, now the Chechens will show the Ukrainian Armed Forces how they can supplement their military capabilities.

Do not take prisoners, destroy and intensify the fight even more, by 100 percent,

- Kadyrov said, adding that the republic will not allow Kyiv to “joke” like that.

As previously reported, this morning a drone attacked the building of the Special Forces University in Gudermes. As a result of the attack, the roof caught fire, which was quickly extinguished. It is claimed that this is the first UAV attack on Chechnya since the beginning of the SVO. Due to the destruction of the drone, it was not possible to establish its make, but it is assumed that it is a Ukrainian UAV of the PD-2 aircraft type. Drone could have been launched from near Odessa and, having flown 1300 km over the Black Sea and the Caucasus, attack Gudermes.

Experts also think that this is not the first drone launched by Kiev in Chechnya, but they simply did not reach the republic before, encountering systems Defense.

Comments

[KAVBER]

Is it reasonable, the rats will fight back to the end, knowing that there is no captivity...

[carpenter]

Quote: KAVBER

Is it reasonable, the rats will fight back to the end, knowing that there is no captivity...

When rats know they are going to be killed, they will choose to run away.

[KAVBER]

The troops won't let you run behind the barriers, that's clear there

[ss29]

Well, you are an adult, these stories about foreign detachments have been going on since 2015 and they did not and do not interfere with the Ukrainian Armed Forces maneuvering.

[private person]

The troops won't let you run behind the barriers, that's clear there

Do you really believe in the blocking detachments, low morale and much of what the media writes? How do you imagine this? These detachments should at least be better armed and more numerous than those who have them in the rear.

[January]

Am I the only one who is confused that while they were hitting Russian cities, the "Prince of Grozny" had no complaints? And only when it hit his native village, he got offended...

[Saburov_Alexander53]

Does Kadyrov have the right to give orders to military units? Or do they still obey the general command of the Russian Armed Forces? Any of us can simply wish not to take prisoners. Otherwise, it will not be an army, but a gathering of separate gangs.
I suppose that in the heat of battle, few people bother to capture a couple of people who raised their hands. What should you do with them if at the same time others are shooting at you? Leave the battlefield and lead them to a safe place in your rear? Yeah, right... I'll drop everything and go... to court martial.
And it's a completely different matter when the Ukies themselves come out on the "Volga" wave and ask to surrender. I want to see who would think of killing such prisoners without weapons.

[Andrey_5]

according to this logic, in all wars no one should take anyone prisoner, declaring it immediately

[Nexcom]

What should they be offered - Turkey and iPhones in exchange for surrendering?

[Al manah]

Well, there was such a precedent...

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: KAVBER

Is it reasonable, the rats will fight back to the end, knowing that there is no captivity...

If we are to discuss what is reasonable in war and what is not - then maybe it is more reasonable to simply surrender? You should ask about this at our liberal sabbaths in Tribaltika - they are WOOOO! How reasonable...

War is a way to destroy the enemy. And the term "captivity" should be used in exceptional cases. So that they understand that they were LUCKY to be in captivity.
А if someone thinks that the enemy "shouldn't be angered" - then I personally would be in different trenches with such a person, at the very least. It's good if, after all, the trenches are on the same side. Otherwise, things can vary.

[KAVBER]

On the ground, let our people eat the enemy if the situation requires it, but it is not very reasonable to say such things in public, it will definitely be used against us.

[Nexcom]

...in other words - we must act silently and without unnecessary statements to the public. Like "well, they refused to surrender - they were stubborn Nazis"...

[ARIONkrsk]

Quote: Nexcom

...in other words - we must act silently and without unnecessary statements to the public. Like "well, they refused to surrender - they were stubborn Nazis"...

Our government has been behaving like this all the time anyway, why should we be afraid of anyone, they themselves came to rob and rape, they should have immediately declared it and not taken prisoner in Kursk. Prisoners can be taken prisoner in Ukraine.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote from ARIONkrsk

It was necessary to declare and not to take prisoners in Kursk. Prisoners can be taken in Ukraine.

You MUST take prisoners, whether in Kursk Oblast or in Kyiv. Whenever possible. If the enemy has thrown down his weapon and raised his hands, showing that he has nothing in his hands.

[Vasyan1971]

like "well, they refused to surrender - they were stubborn Nazis"...

Or when trying to escape...

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: KAVBER

On the ground, let our people eat the enemy if the situation requires it, but it is not very reasonable to say such things in public, it will definitely be used against us.

I absolutely agree.
You can't talk about this on camera, but it's important that the other side knows that it exists.

[RUSICH]

Quote: KAVBER

On the ground, let our people eat the enemy if the situation requires it, but it is not very reasonable to say such things in public, it will definitely be used against us.

This was said emotionally. But if without emotions, then we remember that once, having closed the cauldron, ours said that contact with the enemy had been lost...
And then, to use something against us, they don't need a reason. It's enough for them (the collective West) to say: "It seemed to us that..." Well, or something like that.

[svp67]

Quote: KAVBER

Is this reasonable?

Absolutely not. Such a statement is immediately qualified as a "WAR CRIME", let's see the reaction of our authorities, if there is one. Such public statements must be stopped

[Blackmokona]

Quote: svp67

Absolutely not. Such a statement is immediately qualified as a "WAR CRIME", let's see the reaction of our authorities, if there is one. Such public statements must be stopped

This is Kadyrov, they will give Adam a couple more medals for this. So what if he disgraces the whole world and reports a gross war crime? So what if the Ukrainian Armed Forces will fight much more desperately. The main thing is not to offend Kadyrov.

[svp67]

Quote: BlackMokona

Home

So let's see

[Neo-9947]

It will be interesting to see how our Foreign Ministry officials will respond to the question of commenting on this.
A case when nothing is smarter "and you beat up blacks"You can't make this up.

[Lako]

They won't respond and they'll do the right thing. Here in Poland and France, various officials and not-so-officials have said such things that no one at the Foreign Ministry level is reacting to this nonsense. They can, but Kadyrov can't? He said it and said it. Should we worry about it? Let them worry.

[Neo-9947]

Kadyrov can.
And it's good when such a "bad guy" fights on our side.

[RUSICH]

Quote from lako

They won't respond and they'll do the right thing. Here in Poland and France, various officials and not-so-officials have said such things that no one at the Foreign Ministry level is reacting to this nonsense. They can, but Kadyrov can't? He said it and said it. Should we worry about it? Let them worry.

That's right. If you live with wolves, you have to howl like a wolf.

[begemot20091]

Why? My father-in-law told me that when they were approaching Poland (he served under Rokossovsky - he was seriously wounded during the crossing of the Vistula) he was leading prisoners to the rear. Right after the battle - the village was in pieces and a baby was crawling over a woman - looking for a tit. He said: "Such anger flared up... The second number was at the machine gun, and he himself was from the PPSh. They killed 7 people." He remembered it like a sin, but said that he could not do otherwise.

[Alexey Sommer]

This is a tribunal and a penal battalion. Failure to follow orders.
And why do we need a machine gun and also a PPSh for 7 people?
There you could have sewn up everyone with a pistol.
Fairy tale.
P.S. Why did they carry a machine gun in the convoy?

[begemot20091]

In fact, they move with weapons in war. And what does the convoy have to do with it. They told me to take them to the edge of the village and I did.
P/S Every one of our soldiers had a revolver during the war. No, TT... Oh, "Mauser". Wake up from the chaff in your head. And Uncle received the title of "Hero" for the Dnieper. He hit tanks, aiming through the barrel. Oh, that's wrong... He should have waited until the broken "Panorama" was replaced with a new one.

[Sumotori_380]

Well, there seemed to be enough captured guns in the hands of privates at the end of the war

[begemot20091]

In general, the trophy business in the Red Army was organized very clearly, in a military manner. There were trophy teams subordinated to fronts and armies. They collected all important trophies, equipment, weapons and guns in strict order. Everything was controlled by senior commanders and officers, and was recorded. There could be no arbitrariness in such an important matter. First of all, let's touch on pistols. If in the Red Army, a pistol was a weapon of command staff, pilots and was not provided to ordinary soldiers, then in the Wehrmacht, there were significantly more pistols in the hands of soldiers. German artillerymen, drivers, armored vehicle crews, auxiliary units - all were armed with pistols.
But machine gunners didn't make much use of such trophies. At the end of the war, machine gunners rarely had to participate in hand-to-hand combat.
The famous image of our fighter with a German-made MP-40 submachine gun is more cinematic than real. Of course, they were taken, but mostly used by partisans and front-line reconnaissance units, plus there weren't as many of them as in the movies. And our PPSh was in many ways better than its German counterpart. But the MG-34 or MG-42 machine guns were taken willingly. Their high rate of fire and light weight helped our fighters in battle, and they were easy to find, since the German infantry actively used these machine guns.

[borisvt]

Behemoth, come on! What you write is completely true, but he also had plenty of weapons on hand. After Konigsberg, my father had both a Walther and our officer's revolver, which he secretly took home after demobilization, I cleaned it as a child. He occasionally regretted giving the Walther to a friend or buddy. He said he should have kept it for himself.
To be fair, he was not a private, but served as a lieutenant in a cannon regiment.

[begemot20091]

I don't deny it. It was. But mine had a machine gun and a submachine gun (according to him. In general, he practically didn't say anything about the war). And my father, in general, served as a railroad worker - without a weapon. In Konotop he was shell-shocked - the carriages, he said, were flying through the air.

[dik-nsk]

And Uncle received the title of "Hero" for the Dnieper

Can you tell me your father-in-law's full name? I want to read about the feat - they are all available. No sarcasm

[private person]

P.S. Why did they carry a machine gun in the convoy?

Did you read carefully? They escorted 7 people together, and the machine gun could have been the same "Degtyarev". And the Germans most likely did not stand still, but at the first shots made an "attempt to escape", and this is at least gratitude from the command.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: begemot20091

got excited... The second number was at the machine gun, and he himself was from the PPSh. They killed 7 people." He recalled it as a sin, but said that he couldn't do otherwise.

There is something wrong with this song. I can't say exactly when, in '42 or '43, there was an order - when escorting prisoners, the escort had a "paper" indicating the number of prisoners. And the escort was obliged to deliver the exact number of prisoners indicated in the escort. Otherwise - "according to the laws of wartime"

[Adren]

Quote: svp67

Absolutely not. Such a statement is immediately qualified as a "War CRIME"

"If you are a fascist with a gun
You do not want to give up forever
The house where you lived, your wife and mother,
All that we call home, -
Know: no one will save her,
If you do not save her;
Know: no one will kill him,
If you do not kill him.
And while he did not kill him,
You keep silent about your love,
The land where you grew up, and the house where you lived,
Do not call your homeland.
Let your brother kill the fascist,
Let the neighbor kill the fascist, -
It's your brother and neighbor who take revenge,
And you do not have excuses.
Behind someone else's back they do not sit,
They do not take revenge on someone else's rifle.
Since your brother killed the fascist, -
It's him, not you soldier."
Good poems.

[begemot20091]

Kill him! (If your home is dear to you)
If your home is dear to you,
Where have you been nourished by the Russians,
Under a log ceiling,
Where are you, swinging in the cradle, sailing;
If the roads in the house are volumes
You have walls, stoves and corners,
Grandfather, great-grandfather and father
It has well-groomed floors;
If you love the poor garden
With may color, with bees buzzing
And under the lime tree a hundred years ago
In the ground buried by my grandfather's table;
If you do not want sex
In your house, the fascist trampled,
So he sat down at the grandfather's table
And I broke the trees in the garden ...
If mother is dear to you -
You are breastfeeding,
Where for a long time already there is no milk,
Just stick your cheek;
If you endure no strength,
So that the fascist, standing to her,
On the cheeks wrinkled beat,
Scythe wound on the arm;
To the same hands her,
What carried you into the cradle,
Washed his clothes
And made him a bed ...
If you did not forget your father,
What shook you in your arms,
What a good soldier was
And disappeared in the Carpathian snows,
What died over the Volga, beyond the Don,
For the motherland of your destiny;
If you do not want him
Turned in a coffin,
So that a soldier's portrait in crosses
The fascist took it and tore it to the floor.
And my mother's eyes
He stepped on his face ...
If you do not want to give
The one with whom he walked together,
The one that long to kiss
You did not dare - so loved her -
So that the Nazis will be alive
They took it by force, holding it in a corner,
And the three of them crucified her,
Naked, on the floor;
To get three of these dogs
In groans, in hatred, in blood
All that holy shroud you yourself
With all the power of male love ...
If you are a fascist with a gun
You do not want to give up forever
The house where you lived, your wife and mother,
All that we call homeland -
Know: no one will save her,
If you do not save her;
Know: no one will kill him,
If you do not kill him.
And while he did not kill him,
Shut up about your love
The land where you grew up, and the house where you lived,
Do not call your homeland.
Let your brother kill the fascist,
Let the neighbor kill the fascist, -
It's your brother and neighbor who take revenge,
And you do not have excuses.
Behind someone else's back they do not sit,
They do not take revenge on someone else's rifle.
Since your brother killed a fascist, -
It's him, not you soldier.
So kill the fascist, so that he,
And you did not lie on the ground,
Not in your house to moan,
And he stood by him in the dead.
So he wanted, his guilt, -
Let his house burn, and not yours,
And let not your wife,
And let him be a widow.
Let her cry out not yours,
And his born mother,
Not yours, but his family
Ponaprasnu let him wait.
So kill at least one!
So kill him quickly!
How many times will you see him,
So many times and kill him!
November 1942, XNUMX

[Adren]

I used only an excerpt from Konstantin Simonov's poem "Kill Him". The full poem makes a much greater impression.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Adren

Good poems.

Yes, good ones. But this is not about prisoners and not about those who decided to surrender.

[lukash66]

The ROA soldiers, SS troops and other scum were immediately led behind the parapet. With rare exceptions. Even tankers were subjected to fire because of their black uniforms. Is this also a war crime? Considering what these monsters do to our civilians, military personnel, settlements and cities? He who sows the wind will reap the whirlwind. Have you heard of such a thing?

[Vladimir M]

It is not correct to compare. After all, even in the Great Patriotic War, they did not officially shoot en masse. And here is an official call by a federal official to commit a war crime. After all, these are two very different things.
p.s. non-humans should not live, but for a federal official to make such statements is stupid.

[begemot20091]

Stop trying to be smart. You've become too smart. I lived in a sharovarny for many years. I know the inside well. Oh, how they spat in your back after 91. On the sly, but... they pulled the fig out of your pocket. But they'll sell your neighbor for 3 rubles, and your own mother for 30. You won't believe it, but out of hundreds of acquaintances, only a couple remained in correspondence and didn't spit in my direction, in the direction of my President, my Russia. It's impossible to describe - one big non-Church-war. Why don't you write about the Israelis - they "crush" women and children by the thousands every day with carpet bombing. Or is that not it. Make up your mind.

[Vladimir M]

I wrote in Russian - non-humans should not live.
But for a federal official to make such statements is stupid. It is also stupid for an official in a Secular State to make statements about blood feud.

[ZovSailor]

svp67
Today, 17: 53
Absolutely not. Such a statement is immediately qualified as a "WAR CRIME", let's see the reaction of our authorities, if there is one. Such public statements must be stopped

The whole thing, sir, I apologize for my political and legal illiteracy, I apparently missed the most important thing - where was it stated about the declaration of war by one or some other parties, besides statements around the world and journalistic rubbish from various sides?
The SVO is akin to a counter-terrorist operation, and terrorists, as especially dangerous criminals and scumbags according to all UN canons (despite their pocket affiliation with the Anglo-Saxons and, personally, the Soros clan), are subject to destruction!
And what can you do for me with the workers' and peasants' proletarian approach and for the Russians who have lost their loved ones, military and civilian, after 2014 (I'm not talking about the earlier period) object to justice and war crimes?

[ss29]

I don't know where you've been lately BUT: since the very beginning of the military actions, the Ukrainian Armed Forces have been using torture, executions, civilians and soldiers, the US supplies them with banned cluster munitions. Has Ukraine been held accountable for this? - No. So we can do whatever we want with Ukrainiansthe Wehrmacht and the population of Kiev and Lvov. After the distribution of iPhones and Terammis, the Ukrainians only increased their shelling of peaceful cities.

[dauria]

supply banned cluster munitions

Since when are they banned?
The USA, Russia, China did not sign the convention. India, Pakistan, Israel, South Korea also refused to accept the treaty, considering them effective and necessary weapons. Ukraine did not sign either.
Here is the link
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Конвенция_по_кассетным_боеприпасам

[ss29]

The fact is that we didn’t use them until the Americans supplied them to the Ukrainians.

[svp67]

Quote: ss29

The US supplies them with banned cluster munitions.

Yes, they still had plenty of Soviet stockpiles of such ammunition, just like us... And they are used by BOTH sides of the conflict

Quote: ss29

So we can do whatever we want

And then the legitimate question is, how are you different from these Nazis?

[ss29]

Moral right and purpose. Killed children, now don't be offended.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: ss29

Moral right and purpose. Killed children, now don't be offended.

I agree with that. But have you found a specific killer? Or should all citizens of the Outskirts be killed for this crime?

[begemot20091]

we are different. and you didn't notice. then to Donetsk to "Alley of Angels"

[ZovSailor]

KAVBER
Today, 17: 33
Is it reasonable, the rats will fight back to the end, knowing that there is no captivity

Kadyrov orders Chechen units not to take Ukrainian prisoners in response to drone attack

Well, sir, it’s understandable, the emotions of a leader, but look deeper: what methods do the Anglo-Saxons and Banderonazis use against our prisoners of war and civilians in cruel torture and demonstrative video recordings, executions, and postings on the Internet?
Behind all the machinations of the enemies are the historical enemies of the Russian people - the Anglo-Saxons and their henchmen, the Bander-Nazis, with the ideology of Nazism and fascism.
The least I could personally offer as countermeasures before the International Tribunal and Court is a demonstrative and humiliating circumcision of the liquid drug-fuehrer and the entire junta of Quarter-95, whoever is caught first.
The enemy must be punished!

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: ZovSailor

emotions of a leader,

What are these "leader's emotions"? With emotions, become poets, not politicians.
He has disgraced Russia with his emotions in front of the world community. It is one thing when the "world community" makes up all sorts of fables about us, and another thing when it does so with evidence, citing specific words of a Russian politician. I always knew that he would let us down more than once. When I spoke of the world community, I did not mean the Anglo-Saxons and Franks along with the Germans.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: KAVBER

The rats will fight back until the end, knowing that there is no captivity.

During the Great Patriotic War there were cases when the command of the Soviet troops gave orders not to take prisoners soldiers of certain units (subdivisions) of the enemy! There are even references to Stalin, that he did not ignore the possibility of such orders! So... everything is correct, we "went through" all this!

[Sebenza]

And did you take them before? I don't know who would support breeding animals on the front.

[gurzuf]

"An uncut forest grows again" - this saying belongs to Alexander Vasilyevich Suvorov. Suvorov always sought to bring the course of the battle to the complete and final defeat of the enemy.

[Pavel_Sveshnikov]

Well, they don't seem to be giving up very much. Pathetic individuals or wounded who can't leave, and their own have abandoned them. So it makes little difference. Let them at least tremble with fear in front of the Chechens, and that will be useful. They'll run away faster.

[Mikhail Drabkin]

There are many Russians among those surrendering! And many who were forced - caught by Ukrainian military registration and enlistment offices. It is useless to write about arguments like "this is a Russian university, not Chechnya...".

THERE ARE MANY RUSSIANS AMONG THOSE WHO SURRENDER!!!!

[Li17]

Quote: Mikhail Drabkin

THERE ARE MANY RUSSIANS AMONG THOSE WHO SURRENDER!!!!

And what is Russian? Have you ever thought about it? Were there any traitors among the Russians during the Great Patriotic War? I heard somewhere about 700 thousand, those who were against our own people... Nationality certainly makes sense, but here it implies citizenship of the country! And we are not fighting with Russians or Ukrainians, but with the enemy scum, who want our destruction at the behest of their masters! I heard about the formation of a brigade named after Bohdan Khmelnitsky, from the "reforged Russians" in captivity! Something is not heard about the exploits of this army...

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: KAVBER

Is it reasonable, the rats will fight back to the end, knowing that there is no captivity...

First, Kadyrov has no right to give such orders.
With such an order he lowers Russia in the eyes of the world community to the era of feudalism, if not lower. In an emotional outburst, a fighter during a fight consciously does not take prisoner an enemy who is ready to surrender, and I can understand this and not blame the fighter.
But what drives Kadyrov? - Revenge! I'm telling you - feudalism. And these people are at the helm?!!!

[Ryaruav]

What kind of state within a state is this with its own laws, in the Kremlin, finally?

[Nexcom]

There, the Kadyrov teip is in power. Who are still loyal to the Kremlin. That's where they don't really stick their noses - local self-government. And what kind of self-government could it be? According to mountain traditions - and that's the whole story.

[Askold65]

Quote: Nexcom

There, the Kadyrov teip is in power. Who are still loyal to the Kremlin. That's where they don't really stick their noses - local government.

There is another problem here - Kadyrov's teip is poking its nose into other regions. But the Kremlin turns a blind eye to this too...

[Nexcom]

And that's true too. And try to touch the Chechen community in Moscow or another city - the authorities will support them.

[Askold65]

All this reminds of the same situation as in the regions, where local authorities also turn a blind eye to the "tricks" of the diasporas. Only in the case of Chechnya, this is happening at the state level. It is hard for me to imagine what would have happened in the times of the USSR, when some 1st secretary of the Chechen Republic of Iran commanded in the central regions of the RSFSR.

[Nexcom]

But they set up emirates and khanates there with marble palaces, fountains and much more. And for personal use.

[Sebenza]

Let's try it together and see. Scary?

[AdAstra]

Then don't shout here in the comments about laws and a secular state.

[al3x]

The Kremlin has long since stopped paying attention to all such things, be it the declaration of blood feuds and threats of reprisals in public and other illegal actions from those places

[flint]

As the Chechens themselves told me, even during the Soviet era in Chechnya, there was almost no Soviet power in the mountainous, hard-to-reach areas. Everything depended on the decision of the village elders. And now you want it. It's good that they are fighting on our side and for Russia.

[Askold65]

So they fought on our side in WWII. They like to remember this, reproaching the Russians. They just don't like to remember that more of them died in battles against the NKVD troops than on the WWII fronts as part of the Red Army. This is not counting those who fought in the "Caucasus" legion on the German side.
And desertion and banditry in those years in the Chechen-Ingush Republic acquired enormous proportions. Which resulted in Operation "Lentil" and which Chechens still consider "genocide" (and why us?)

[Sebenza]

about thirty years. And I speak briefly, or rather quietly

[Sumotori_380]

Good comment. One of the few.

[Nexcom]

Surov Ramzan Batkovich, all a drone did was hit the roof of a building - and immediately no prisoners were taken! Ours would have given such harsh orders and certainly not on the roof of a building - there were already a lot of real reasons.

[Lemon]

This has happened before, Prigozhin gave a similar order to the musicians in Artemovsk. And they didn't take them.

[Nexcom]

What's the matter? It seems like everyone here agreed with the calls to not take "shaitans" (c) prisoner.

[Sebenza]

I beg your pardon. Who was not taken?

[Sebenza]

The order cannot be ignored.

[maximaniak]

Will there be Russian military? And who do the Chechen military report to, I'm embarrassed to ask?

[Nexcom]

To whom? To Lieutenant General Kadyrov, Major General Alaudinov.

[maximaniak]

Yeah, I see... What about the Mordovians?

[alexis]

Yeah, I see... What about the Mordovians?

To Lieutenant General Andrei Nikolaevich Mordvichev!

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: maximaniak

Will there be Russian military? And who do the Chechen military report to, I'm embarrassed to ask?

Quote: maximaniak

Yeah, I see... What about the Mordovians?

There are no mono-ethnic units staffed 100% by representatives of one nation.
In "Akhmat" there is the same "hodgepodge", so if the commander gives the order not to take the Bandar-logs prisoner, then it means that they will diligently take two hundred of them.
If in other parts of the front they could still be taken prisoner to form an exchange fund, then in the Kursk region they initially did not need to be taken prisoner and killed every single one, so that they would develop a firm understanding that crossing the border with Russia means only one thing - death, no options.
It's clear to you that you really want to throw some shit at the fan, whether it's on an ethnic issue or on a religious issue, but here you seem to have not quite "been shy" about the topic, rather, you "missed the mark."

[Sebenza]

If in other parts of the front they could still be taken prisoner to form an exchange fund, then in the Kursk region they initially did not need to be taken prisoner and killed every single one, so that they would develop a firm understanding that crossing the border with Russia means only one thing - death, no options.

[Igor Belobrov]

Hot Caucasian guy. First he said, then he thought. If he only thought.

[Sanya Terek]

Kadyrov said a lot of things, like taking Kyiv in a week and liberating the Kursk region in three days.

[Jsem_CZEKO68]

Kadyrova je nutne respektovat. Jen tímto asi zemře více takových vojáků, kteří toužili být zachráněni v Ruském zajetí a Rusko není jejich nepřítel.

[Jsem_CZEKO68]

Kadyrov must be respected. This alone will probably lead to the death of more soldiers who wanted to save themselves in Russian captivity, and Russia is not their enemy.

[Mint Gingerbread]

Well, then, they will also stop taking Chechens and anyone similar to them prisoner. Although in some news flashed that the captured Chechens, other Chechens consider about traitors or something like that. Medieval customs have not gone anywhere in the modern world.

[Boniface]

+ all mercenaries under the knife!
Personal numbers and chevrons should be sent by Russian Post to the embassies of the corresponding GayCountries!

[Fitter65]

Chechen military will no longer take Ukrainian soldiers prisoner; Ramzan Kadyrov gave the corresponding order.

And immediately a question - are the Chechen military no longer part of the RF Armed Forces or the Russian Guard? Are the regulations not written for them? Or can someone, over the head of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, give orders that contradict the provisions of the general military regulations. By the way, where is it stated that the RF Armed Forces servicemen must comply with the norms and rules of warfare... Or what is due to Jupiter is not due to the bull?

[Sumotori_380]

We have no other reality.

[tralflot1832]

Ramazan Kadyrovich knows what he is talking about, Akhmat is a force in the Kursk region. They have already been seen in battles in the Kursk region more than once. Everything will be decided in battle, on the front lines.

[AdAstra]

Yeah, we know how he "came into the spotlight.""""

[foxes]

That is, he already openly states that some units are subordinate to him and not to the Russian command?

[Al manah]

Well, it seems like he never hid it...

[agoran]

There was unofficial information that Kursk volunteers do not take Sumerians prisoner.
After killing civilians, no one will feel sorry.

[Vauxhall]

Quote: Nexcom

A complaint

Made me laugh. Another Russian official. Iphoneych also says a lot of things. Zero output.
Apply a felt-tip pen to his lips so he can kiss the red lines.
The "highlander" has long since become Kremlinized.
Now he's only a hero on social networks.

[mog50]

What are the detachments from the republic? Do we have a state, a constitution, laws? What was the punishment for killing prisoners in the Great Patriotic War? And which of the state leaders will rein in this Kadyrov gang?

[Ham59]

Let me tell you what happened in WWII for killing prisoners. My grandfather managed to take part in the Finnish War. In 1943, their unit was preparing for battles on the Kursk Bulge. One evening, scouts captured a prisoner. After the first interrogation, they led him along a trench to the rear. And then a soldier received a letter. Neighbors wrote that his entire family was killed in a bombing. And then they were leading a German. Alive. The soldier could not stand it and began to chop him up with a sapper shovel. What did my grandfather do as a sergeant major? That's right, he gave the order to bury the German behind the parapet. According to my grandfather, the German was not cut down, the ground was moving. What do you think happened to my grandfather for this? Nothing. He was awarded a medal for military merit for the battles on Kursk. Are you going to act the fool that "they are the children" are being buried near Kursk again?

[Stardock]

A few comments on Kadyrov’s speech.
Shooting prisoners is a war crime. This is grounds for initiating a criminal case. And the West, the world will take advantage of this. Expect new sanctions.

The order to shoot Chechens will immediately be given to the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
Nothing will stop the Armed Forces of Ukraine from making new strikes on Grozny. Is this what Kadyrov wanted?
If anyone doesn't know, the majority of Ukrainian military personnel are Slavic peoples - Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Moldovans, etc. How can we continue to live next to our neighbors after the war? There are currently about 2 million migrants from Ukraine living in Russia.
Of course, some of the relatives serve in the Constitutional Court. The relatives of those executed will take revenge on the Russians for decades. Haven't you thought about it?

The unity of command in the RF Armed Forces does not allow the head of the republic to interfere with the orders of the Ministry of Defense.
This destroys the federal state and without it the strength of the state is being tested.
Kadyrov's order is a gross political and military mistake.
Against the backdrop of peace proposals from all sides, read the materials of the BRICS Council, including Putin’s proposals, such a speech by Kadyrov is unacceptable.

[Fitter65]

Quote: Stardock

Relatives of those executed will take revenge on Russians for decades.

And who will tell them that he was shot? There is a possibility that the Ukrovermacht command will write him off, at best, as natural combat losses, or as missing in action. And who said that not taking prisoners and shooting are the same thing? You didn’t have time to raise your hands in time, or throw your weapon on the ground, and you were destroyed in the heat of battle. He didn’t say to shoot those who surrendered. He said not to take prisoners!!!! There is a significant difference. And what about the fact that relatives will take revenge on the Russians, and that no reaction from the other side is expected? The Russians should not take revenge on them for the shelling of our peaceful cities, for the children of Donbass killed by the relatives of Ukrainians, for those Kursk old people whom they shot for fun, or are the Russians denied revenge, but the relatives of these creatures will be allowed to? First, let them have apple orchards in the Novy Urgal area, they will start bringing in profits, and then we will see who will take revenge on whom... As one 1988-year-old Belarusian guy said in 19 - they have not yet answered for Khatyn...

[Stardock]

[/quote]And who said that not taking prisoners and shooting are the same thing?[quote]

A soldier who stops resisting under enemy pressure is a prisoner of war.
His murder (deliberate, unjustified deprivation of life) is a crime.

Your dream of killing as many people as possible requires medical intervention.
You probably dream that the war between Russia and Ukraine will continue forever, just as Israel and Palestine have been fighting for decades.
All reasonable people think about how to end the war. Unreasonable people dream of dying in it.

[alexandre II]

Stardock. A soldier who has stopped resisting under enemy pressure is a prisoner of war.,........................and the shooting of children, and the gallows in Kursk, what is that? Are you for mercy to these ghouls? Ask the people of Kursk, are they for mercy to them? No need to show yourself very smart here, you are not, if these bastards had hanged your child, I think the song would have been different.

[Stardock]

War criminals should be brought to justice.
But not every person with a machine gun in his hands who considers himself a god can administer justice.

It seems that we are bringing liberation, justice, and legality to Ukraine.
Or is the one with the thicker gun barrel right?
Jungle?

[BIGLESHIY]

Quote: Stardock

War criminals should be brought to justice.
But not every person with a machine gun in his hands who considers himself a god can administer justice.

It seems that we are bringing liberation, justice, and legality to Ukraine.
Or is the one with the thicker gun barrel right?
Jungle?

Wouldn't you like to go to the SVO and show by your own example how to take Banderites prisoner and transport them under enemy fire? No?

[Stardock]

I can do much more good with my head than with my hands. I'm definitely not Rambo.
War favors the young.

[Fitter65]

Quote: Stardock

Your dream of killing as many people as possible requires medical intervention.

Thank you for telling me about the doctor, but where did you see my dream of killing as many people as possible?

Quote: Stardock

A soldier who stops resisting under enemy pressure is a prisoner of war.

Let's start looking at who and when becomes a prisoner of war

Prisoner of war (English prisoner of war, French prisonnier de guerre; Spanish prisonere de guerra), a person who took part in an international armed conflict and found himself in the power of another belligerent state - the enemy, if he has the right (claims) to prisoner of war status, or the state on which this person depends demands such status for him.....Prisoners of war, as a rule, are combatants who fall into the power of an adverse party (clause 2 of Article 44 of Additional Protocol I to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949, relating to the Protection of Victims of International Armed Conflicts of 8 June 1977; hereinafter - AP I)....The beginning of military captivity should be understood as the capture of an enemy combatant (forced deprivation of the ability to resist) or his voluntary surrender (leaving behind weapons, raising hands, throwing out a white flag and other implicit actions).

And how then should we treat those Ukrainian army servicemen who cheerfully and casually, on camera, shot our servicemen who had dropped their weapons and raised their hands? Again, for some reason you give the Ukrainian side the right to do everything, but deprive the Russian side of this same right. Again, you have to manage to get captured, because the Ukrainians like to shoot their own in the back, or even cover them with artillery... And I repeat once again - not managing to take prisoners is one thing, but shooting prisoners is another. As one classic said - if the enemy does not surrender, he is destroyed...

[Stardock]

My definition of a prisoner of war is simple and clear, and differs little from yours downloaded from the Internet. I write as simply as possible. Not everyone can understand complex verbal constructions.

Those who shoot prisoners - on any side - are criminals and are subject to trial.
And no ifs. Everyone must answer.
Shooting prisoners is a crime.

Cruelty will instantly only generate counter-cruelty.
Nothing will prevent this from happening. No doubt about it.
And what if you yourself find yourself surrounded by the enemy?
The incorrectness of Kadrov’s decision is confirmed by the fact that the first state channel did not mention it.

Here on VO, half of the readers are storytellers.
They don't get that if we use nuclear weapons, the same charge will fly into their house. It will burn their children and parents. They think that theirs is far away, it's a cool TV series.
No, the war is already close and is reaching almost to the Urals.

[Fitter65]

Quote: Stardock

And what if you yourself find yourself surrounded by the enemy?

If only, yes, yes, yes beans grew in the company ... let's move away from various assumptions and return to the facts ... And they are as follows, the facts confirming the execution of Russian soldiers captured, as well as cruel treatment, in captivity, with Russian prisoners of war were recorded on video by the Ukrainian servicemen themselves (as well as representatives of various security agencies of Ukraine). Which has never been recorded in relation to Ukrainian prisoners of war on the Russian side. Not a single international commission or other organization that visited the places of placement of Ukrainian soldiers captured by Russia has indicated this. And also not a single complaint has been recorded from Ukrainian prisoners of war who returned in an exchange from Russian captivity. Although, being on their territory, they could say whatever they want. This once again means that their relatives will have the right to take revenge on the Russian state. But again, why can't Russian citizens take revenge on the relatives of those who shot our soldiers and abused them in captivity and killed civilians? You still haven't answered this question?

Quote: Stardock

Cruelty will instantly only generate counter-cruelty.

Then why don't our soldiers shoot at Ukrainian soldiers who come out with their hands up, as the Ukrainian Armed Forces did periodically, why don't ours shell markets when there are hundreds of civilians there, why don't they fire cannons and MLRS at residential areas where civilians live, as the Ukrainians do? We don't respond to cruelty with cruelty, and you even seem to forbid us from doing this, but for some reason you think that the Ukrainians have every right to do this. But they will have to answer in full, sooner or later - but they will have to.

Quote: Stardock

If we use nuclear weapons, the same charge will fly into their house.

And have you read the conditions for the use of nuclear weapons by Russia? The President of the Russian Federation has already given a full and detailed answer to this. There is no double interpretation here. And again, these arguments of yours like - oh, you shouldn't do this, otherwise it will be worse - are already a little irritating. Why can't we act like the "civilized, democratic, Western world" does?

[Stardock]

I will answer the question about the crimes of the Armed Forces again. Such facts exist. As in any big war. There are no beautiful wars.
Ukrainian soldiers must be court-martialed and answer for their crimes. No concessions.
To know about crimes you need to watch many different channels. And not just 2-3.. The Internet will help.
Of course, there are many fakes. It is difficult to distinguish truth from lies.

There will be many, many cases of war crimes and insults on both sides. War does not make any person better.

[Fitter65]

Quote: Stardock

There will be many, many cases of war crimes and insults on both sides. War does not make any person better.

That is, you again go to the option that everyone is to blame - but

Quote: Stardock

Relatives of those executed will take revenge on Russians for decades.

that is, it turns out that some will be more guilty than others. Let's return to your initial statement that the relatives of those executed will take revenge on the Russians for decades, although for some reason you are outraged by the fact that the relatives of executed Russian prisoners of war, as if they also have the right to take revenge on the relatives of Ukrainians?!!! Why?

[Stardock]

There is no doubt that Russians will also avenge their dead fathers and brothers. And they will not ask anyone for consent.
Well, I really don't want it to be like that. We need to think about what will happen tomorrow.
For this, there is no need to incite hatred between nations.
A very, very dangerous problem is emerging.

[Fitter65]

Quote: Stardock

We need to think about what will happen tomorrow.
For this, there is no need to incite hatred between nations.

And who is inciting this hatred? Our government channels, and not only, tell us that our blood brothers are there. As in June 1941, that our class brothers are there too - the proletarians, I.V. Stalin says that the Hitlers come and go, but the German people remain on February 23, 1942. And on July 18.07, 1942, the newspaper "Red Star" publishes a poem by Konstantin Simonov - "Kill him!" ("If your home is dear to you..."), God forbid you say something like that in our time, you'll immediately be charged with inciting ethnic hatred. We are told from every iron that Ukrainians are a brotherly people to us, but when you watch the news about the results of shelling of our cities and villages, which are carried out by people from a brotherly people, and not isolated ones, then you immediately remember the poem by K. Simonov... And we did not raise this problem, but those who wrote books that Ukraine is not Russia, and who, jumping on the Maidan, called for Russians to be hanged on tree branches. After all, gilyak is translated as a tree branch or bough... It was not us who told them that we will never be brothers... Therefore, let them think about how to live, with us as people, or like their ancestors in caches, until their modern "SMERSH" men clean them out. They have no other options. Yes, let them speak the language invented for them by the Austrians and Poles. At one time I was initially surprised that Ukrainian-speaking conscripts from the east of Ukraine do not understand Ukrainians from the western regions. And it is not only the language that is different... Therefore, I repeat once again, we did not raise this problem, we simply lost sight of it...

[Stardock]

Fitter, you are repeating exactly what the media is telling you. One to one.
This is your full right. I respect your opinion.

[Fitter65]

Quote: Stardock

Fitter, you are repeating exactly what the media is telling you. One to one.

Although, I somehow did not see, in my comments, a single cliche from the Russian media. My level of education allows me to somehow comprehend what is happening in the country and the world, and give it my own assessment. Well, and on the other hand, you allow yourself to repeat that it is not our media that is saying. Therefore, I also think that

Quote: Stardock

This is your complete right.

[BIGLESHIY]

Quote: Stardock

There will be many, many cases of war crimes and insults on both sides. War does not make any person better.

Do you have evidence of war crimes by the Russian Armed Forces?

[Stardock]

There are international organizations that keep records of crimes.
Crime exists in any large gathering of people, in any city.
There is no need to idealize anyone.
Once he takes a machine gun, it means he is already a saint and can do anything.
No, it is not possible.

[Penzyak]

A few comments on Kadyrov’s speech.
The execution of prisoners is a war crime.

And at what point does a prisoner become a prisoner?
It is possible that the following situation will occur: until the baggy pants is included in the list of prisoners, he will be shot like a mad pig. And this is no longer a war crime, but crime prevention.
As an old doctor, you must understand the importance of prevention. Only lead can cure this mad pigsty of Nazism.

[Stardock]

You and I have radically different concepts of war, its goals, justice, and goals in life. A dispute is impossible.

You consider yourself a God deciding the fate of already defenseless people. Deep, deformation of personality.
Take off your crown and be simpler. You really lack education and knowledge.

[Soldatov V.]

We hanged captured Germans guilty of crimes against civilians in the squares. And what should we do now with the Banderites, the foreign mercenaries committing atrocities in the Kursk region?
Can they be hanged or shot if their guilt is proven? We have a moratorium on the death penalty, but it has not been abolished.

[Lisa Kerner-Timoshenko]

Well, yes, the liberal VVP still doesn’t understand that it is absolutely necessary to reintroduce the death penalty, because there is a WAR going on!!!!

[Stardock]

Not the way of prisoners and those convicted by the court. Completely different things. Don't lump everything together.

[Penzyak]

Where did you see people in that mad pigsty?
People do not bomb civilians and do not execute children, not only in Russia, but also in their own herds.

[Fitter65]

Quote: Stardock

You really lack education and knowledge.

I'll ask a counter question. Who told you that you have enough education and enough knowledge? Judging by the fact that you couldn't even define who a prisoner of war is and when, and who becomes one. Is it a lack of knowledge, or education?

Quote: Stardock

You and I have radically different concepts about war, its goals, justice, and goals in life.

so this is a natural process when people are on different sides. For example, for some reason you think that the Ukrainian side can do everything, and the RF Armed Forces should do nothing with them. Only pity and protect... Why such an approach? From an excess of knowledge or still from a lack of education? In such conditions, when - there is my opinion, and the rest are wrong - a dispute is really impossible.

[Fitter65]

Quote: Penzyak

And at what point does a prisoner become a prisoner?

one of the documents says so.

A prisoner of war is a person who has been captured by the armed forces of an enemy during an armed conflict or war. Prisoners of war are members of the armed forces of one of the parties to the conflict and are in the power of the enemy. Their status and rights are governed by international humanitarian law, including the Geneva Conventions and their protocols, which provide protections and guarantees for prisoners of war, including the right to humane treatment, inviolability, and return to their country after the end of the conflict.
Source: https://suvorov.legal/mezhdunarodno-pravovoj-status-voennoplennyh/

They may also include various persons in various armed formations. BUT! In relation to them, there is point 1 where it is written

observe the laws and customs of war.
Source: https://suvorov.legal/mezhdunarodno-pravovoj-status-voennoplennyh/

Therefore, various National Battalion members from Ukrainian armed formations who violate these laws can no longer legally be considered prisoners of war, and therefore what...

[My_log_in]

A couple of comments on the comments, if you don't mind.
1. '...Shooting prisoners is a war crime. This is grounds for initiating a criminal case..." - There is nothing to object to, that is how it should be. How many and where have criminal cases been opened on CONFIRMED facts of executions (and not only) of captured Russian military personnel? Criminal cases named after Bastrykin are not offered.
2. You have already been informed about revenge. The relatives of the deceased on our side also have this right.
================= the rest is pure nonsense
About the one-man rule and political error - I agree. I suppose he will be corrected privately and his speechwriters will tell everyone about "taken out of context" and "incorrectly interpreted". Although, as was correctly noted, between "don't take" and "shoot" the difference is noticeable even to the naked eye.
I have the honor.

[Stardock]

I am always open to constructive and reasoned criticism.
I always respect other people's opinions.

[alexandre II]

Stardock.....You are so fair, you talk about war, prisoners of war, but did you even serve in the army? Did you hold a sapper shovel in your hands, not to mention a weapon? I doubt it though.....

[Stardock]

Two years of compulsory military service. Reserve captain.

[Al manah]

Relatives of those executed will take revenge on Russians for decades.

They won't, Ukrainians I don't care about the executed relatives, they are worried about their own hut.

[Stardock]

Ukrainians care about their dead relatives. Don't underestimate your opponent. They are no dumber than us.
Have you ever thought about why on video, on TV, in the media almost all of our fighters cover their faces with masks? Do you think they are playing carnival? No. It's different.
Let's say your neighbor, a Ukrainian living in Russia next to you, had his father and brother killed. He was left with a wife and two children. And you returned from there yesterday and boast to everyone that you didn't take prisoners.
Guess what feelings he will have for you? Any ideas?
During WWII, Stalin deported all the Volga Germans to the steppes of northern Kazakhstan. Do you think it was a coincidence?
Even in war, you can remain human. But not everyone wants to.

[osp]

This is not the only problem.
How many hundreds of thousands of dead and disabled on the other side?
So everyone has families.
And through international courts (controlled by the West, of course) they will
will certainly file claims for contributions and reparations against Russia.
And we're talking about trillions of dollars there.
Whether Russia will admit this or pay, or not, is not so important.
And here we may start talking about the seizure of all Russian property abroad.

And if Ukraine does not survive, then we will have to pay pensions for the loss of a breadwinner and disability to their families.
And even this is about tens of billions of rubles every month.

[Stardock]

You have definitely raised the legal issue of post-war expenses. The world lives by laws, not by concepts.
You will have to pay for everything. Today, no one thinks about it. The amounts will be astronomical.
For example, Iraq paid the tiny Kuwait it had ruined several hundred billion dollars.
Ukraine is still calculating its damage. It is talking about half a trillion dollars.

[My_log_in]

Iraq paid because it was kicked out of Kuwait by Desert Storm in accordance with a UN resolution. That is, it lost its war. And even then, it paid not to Kuwait, but to a special UN fund.
And let country 404 think - "a fool gets rich by thinking" - here in Crimea they also count their losses. The chances of receiving compensation are approximately equal.

[Stardock]

I will add to your faithful post. The trials on this topic can last many, many years...

Even without a military victory over Ukraine, the international community will probably recognize us as the guilty party. The basis is the UN decision. Its resolutions, in their..

[My_log_in]

So, UN Security Council Resolutions 2166 and 2202, ignored by that side, are not considered? Some one-sided logic is visible. Yes, one can sue for a long time, for centuries, around only one Article 51 of the UN Charter (against the background of the birth of God's Kosovo and the LPR and DPR) one can weave so many circles... In the case of our unconditional victory, the Russian Federation will not be guilty of anything and no one will award it anything, but in the case of a "peace agreement" on any occasion I would be wary of betting on the Russian Federation. So, we must win.

[Stardock]

Unfortunately, reality does not confirm your thoughts.
The West has already begun to spend the income received from the profits of our deposits in Western banks.
And no one can challenge these actions.
This already speaks of the legal orientation of the international court.
How will the trial proceed? And the same as for the downed flight MH17.
Nobody takes our opinion into account.

[osp]

All these courts are under US control.
And any decision they make will be in favor of the West, read Ukraine.
Russia will not be able to sue her for anything through organizations.
For damage to Crimea and the Kursk region, for example.
Then, even in Russia itself these courts have not been recognized recently.
Therefore, there is still no legal framework for recovering damages from Ukraine.
Moreover, talk of a military victory over it is not even on the agenda.
Even rebuilding Donbass with its destroyed enterprises will be extremely difficult for Russia, which is subject to such sanctions.

[Stardock]

If the court's decision is rejected, sanctions against Russia will not be lifted, which is tantamount to the collapse of the economy.

[osp]

The reparations amounts could run into trillions of dollars.
A country subject to such sanctions, having lost the European raw materials market, with frozen assets will not be able to pay this.
Because in Russia itself there is simply a mountain of the most serious social problems. Every year minus 500-700 thousand residents.
The average pension in the Russian provinces is 15 thousand rubles, salary 25-28 thousand.
These citizens are literally becoming poorer not by the month, but by the week.
Every week their purchasing power falls.

Therefore, with such input, reparations from Russia may be demanded in the form of territories.

[Stardock]

Russia will pay reparations for decades. For now, Ukrainians are talking about the amount of damage at around 500 billion dollars.

[osp]

There will be nothing to pay with - foreign exchange earnings into the country with such sanctions will be reduced to a minimum, if they exist at all.
They can't pay in Indian rupees.
Russia's foreign currency assets (and in the future, probably other property) are frozen and the West is beginning to use them at its own discretion without consequences for itself.
Russia has gigantic social problems.
Well, in other words, if there is no money, then they can demand territory through the courts.
Germany, devastated by the war, could not give anything to Poland and the USSR at first except East Prussia.

The MH17 case is not closed yet.
The issue of contributions and reparations is being considered.

[flint]

Everyone knows that the residents of Bandarlogia are big fans of making money for free But you won't get anything, not a penny, no matter how much you scream.

[Stardock]

In vain do you think that they won't be able to take money from Russia. Only 300 billion dollars and what are the salaries worth?
By court order, any property that has left the territory of the Russian Federation may be seized - oil, gas, grain, goods, ships, airplanes...

[osp]

If you follow the news, you probably read the news from Finland.
There, Russian property and real estate, including that belonging to consulates, are being seized.
At the request of Ukraine for now. And by the decision of the Finnish court.
So, a start has been made.

[Stardock]

Yes, of course I read about Finland. More than 40 objects have been arrested. I think our people are now coming up with a response.

[flint]

If Russia in response starts to seize Western property, then it will be a big deal for everyone, it is still unknown who will suffer the most and all this because of some wretched Bandarology

[osp]

You are completely out of touch with reality.
Nobody will arrest anything Western in Russia.
Only to buy it and for a lot of money.
How 2 years ago Lukoil bought a stake in the energy company OGK-5 from the Italian Enel.
Moreover, for a sum of more than 100 million euros.
That is the reality.

[flint]

Well, judging by everything, you are not in reality at all, but somewhere very, very far away, when it is necessary, everything will be arrested and even more.

[flint]

Is this what they tell you in Bandarology? And you stupid people believe all this nonsense, that's what's scary!

[BIGLESHIY]

Winners are not judged! Woe to the vanquished, for their fate is in the hands of the victors. After the victory over Germany, the Germans were preparing for just retribution (death) from the soldiers of the USSR, because they knew that they would have to answer for all the crimes of the Nazi regime in the USSR.

[Stardock]

No, Bigleshiy, you don’t have to think in terms of medieval laws.

[My_log_in]

I can't recall any cases when the defeated side made claims against the victorious side and ended up winning. For the French and the English to pay the Germans who became disabled at Verdun? Did the Americans send a lot of money as compensation for something to Iraq or the EU to Libya? Only in our country there was a "cursed decade" when we repented and restored the cemeteries of the occupiers on our territory, erected monuments and knelt before national traitors. I hope this never happens again. So, as one of our statesmen said, "the ears of a dead donkey" will be received by those who have lost their breadwinners on that side and their disabled people. For some reason I believe in this.

[ZovSailor]

Stardock
Yesterday, 18: 31
The second mustache fell off.
Disrupted the Center's mission.
Headquarters, TCC, Suitcase, Station, LBS.
Hand over your weapons and radio.
End of communication.

[Stardock]

The traitors are precisely those who want to disrupt and hinder Putin’s desire to end the war.
Your desire to kill, kill and kill again everyone and everything is very dangerous for Russia. You are dangerous.
You don't think about her future..

[tatra]

The enemies of the USSR are madmen, they don't even know what they're doing, and that's why they only ever cause harm to our country and people. They want to fire nuclear weapons at other countries, and they don't care that the "retaliatory strike" could hit our country and people, they want to shoot foreign prisoners of war, and they don't care that the same thing will be done to our prisoners of war.

[agoran]

I read the memoirs of an intelligence officer from the early 70s, there is an interesting description of a reconnaissance mission.
1943, reached a high point, the radio operator contacted the command, adjusting the combat mission.
Below is a road along which a column of German prisoners is walking. One of the Germans noticed our commander and, with the guard's permission, approached and said that not all of them were Germans.
It turned out that there were about 60 Vlasovites in German uniforms, the Germans themselves pushed them out.
Sending with a convoy - loss of group fighters, the task must be completed, taken to a ravine and shot. This is the truth of war.

[Sumotori_380]

I don’t understand, what prevented them from continuing further in the column?

[agoran]

Here you need to understand who the prisoners of war of the Wehrmacht, SS, CD are and who the Vlasovites are.
The SS didn't take prisoners. Vlasovites either. Yes, Fallschirmjäger either.
Ordinary military personnel were taken in and even provided medical assistance.

[Sumotori_380]

Then what is the meaning of the phrase "sending with a convoy - loss of group fighters"?

[your1970]

Quote from Sumotori_380

I don’t understand, what prevented them from continuing further in the column?

it bike-if you didn't understand

[agoran]

The story is about 4 American XNUMXs lying on a tarpaulin with their bare asses in the Kursk region. Should I show a photo?

[your1970]

a tale is this, made up on the fly:

Quote: agoran

Below is the road along which it goes column German prisoners.

Quote: agoran

with permission guard came up

Quote: agoran

Send from convoy - loss of group fighters

since you have trouble with logic - a column with a convoy is moving, the convoy can handle itself without any left-wing "commanders" and is quite capable of reporting about the Vlasovites itself.
Without anyone's intervention or any smart guys from the outside.
But you needed-for color- add fighters to the convoy and shoot them so as not to leave them behind.

[agoran]

Hurry for the blockheads.
He pointed out that the recollections of the intelligence officers in the memoirs of the early 70s were not edited then. The commanders made decisions independently, and even now the commander independently makes the decision to destroy the Bandar-logs.
If there are Azov tattoos, it’s easier to shoot.

[Sumotori_380]

There was no editing???

[your1970]

Quote from Sumotori_380

There was no editing???

- the opponent is naive or was in kindergarten then.

[Sumotori_380]

Yeah. It's like the Soviet government in the 70s allowed printing everything as it is)))

[your1970]

Quote: agoran

The commanders made decisions on their own,

the commander has a combat mission and he has no time to deal with it escorted prisoners.
A rush for the dummies - escorted .
It means that another (!!!!!!) the commander set the task and highlighted(!!!!) fighters for the convoy.
Again BOLD - "another commander allocated fighters"
And the scout no combat mission to stick a plug into every hole - especially since the Vlasovites clearly did not stand out from the crowd.
In general, cranberry a la agitprop of the 1970s...

[Lisa Kerner-Timoshenko]

You did the right thing - smart and glorious RED ARMY SOLDIERS!

[Eduard_Adolfovich]

Tell them peacemakers, but cancer is treatable at the last stage!

[Sumotori_380]

An axe definitely won't cure it

[Million]

The statement smacks of separatism.

[Electrical]

Suvorov also said: You can't let the enemy leave the battlefield alive! The uncut forest will grow again!

[Sumotori_380]

There are a lot of fake quotes on the Internet. In Suvorov's time, it was customary to build a golden bridge for a retreating enemy so that he would not get angry and fight to the death. So I doubt it.

[ss29]

Akhmat has already proven everything in Mariupol, the Ukrainians are not afraid of them at all.

[Lisa Kerner-Timoshenko]

The Ukrainian fascists know that there are colorblind people sitting in Moscow!!!

[osp]

And if I’m not mistaken, not long ago a drone flew into Dagestan.
It's even further than Chechnya.
Either "Lyuty" or A-22 "Flying Fox".
The launch site is obviously the Shkolny airfield near Odessa.
It turns out that the drone flew through Crimea or Donbass, which are saturated with air defense systems.
Or he made a detour around Crimea towards Adler.
Although, if you take into account the recent arrival in Adygea, then this is quite possible.

[My_log_in]

Isn't that too far of a stretch? There are supposedly units of the Russian Armed Forces and the Russian National Guard, and not the militia of the baron who joined them... Nothing personal, by the way.

[alexandre II]

Not taking captive murderers of children and women - is it a crime? What nonsense, and this person considers himself Russian? Kadyrov is right, they must be destroyed, enough, enough...

[Gonzo]

Yes it is. In civilized coutries every one has the right to fair trial. Killing POW's at spot is Nazi way.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Gonzo

Yes it is. In civilized coutries every one has the right to fair trial. Killing POW's at spot is Nazi way.

Why then have "civilized countries" never condemned Ukraine for the executions and torture of Russian prisoners of war?

[Gonzo]

They were. There was a huge scandal, when Kraken unit probably killed unarmed POWS during counteroffensive. Media were very unhappy and Ukraine had to make strong explanations.

[Old_geologist]

Quote: Stardock

Relatives of those shot will take revenge on Russians for decades. Haven't you thought about that?

Well, yes, well, yes... and will the relatives of the peaceful Kursk residents, shot by these assholes, kiss them and greet them with bread and salt?

[jaroff]

In my opinion, the UAV was launched from Georgia. There are no problems at all in bringing components from Ukraine. People arrived there for yesterday's rally. Some were in the crowd, others were preparing the device. Or maybe they were the same people

[oleg Pesotsky]

The main thing now is to see Chechen units on LBS and not only on TikTok.

[Lisa Kerner-Timoshenko]

In general, that's correct...
The Russians captured the "Azovites" and similar fascists...fed and treated them and then exchanged them for their godfather VVP. A disgrace!!!

[Sawa]

But this is correct...When we were sent out, they told us: "Don't spare the bullets!"

[Grossvater]

Quote: KAVBER

Is it reasonable, the rats will fight back to the end, knowing that there is no captivity...

In this case it is reasonable, not as a general practice of course. As it used to be in the yard. Once fifteen-year-olds squeezed you, ten years old, shook out your change, twice, then the brownest one got a brick in the end from a greenhorn and everyone left the greenhorn alone. We had such a case in our yard.
By the way, it has suddenly become unfashionable to offend very small children. .

[Word]

That's the whole essence of a non-Russian person.

[Michael_Zverev]

And no red lines? It's even kind of strange.

[opposite28]

The head of Chechnya commented on today's drone attack on the Special Forces University in Gudermes, telling journalists that he had given orders to the commanders of the republic's units not to take prisoners.

Are there not enough well-wishers for Kadyrov in Chechnya?!

Do not take prisoners, destroy and intensify the fight even more, by 100 percent, Kadyrov said, adding that the republic will not allow Kyiv to “joke” like that.

So when did "jokes" go away during attacks on border cities of the Russian Federation?! To put it mildly, this is an ambiguous statement from an official in the person of Ramzan Akhmatovich, taking into account all the merits in the best sense of the word.

[AdAstra]

And do they "take" many prisoners there in the rear?
And who delegated him the authority to give orders to military personnel when he is only the head of the region? Is the Monomakh's Cap not big enough? Or can any head of state now say whatever comes into his head?

[Al manah]

Or can any leader now say whatever comes into his head?

Not everyone can... Not everyone can...

[Gonzo]

So basically he just committed war crime. Order not to take prisoners is like Kommandobefehl.
Really guys you are talking, that you are fighting with Nazis and you are doing things like this?

[Junkman George]

Probably the last person I would choose to piss off would be a bunch of Chechens.

Good luck with that Elenski................................

[osp]

Quote: zharyoff

In my opinion, the UAV was launched from Georgia. There are no problems at all in bringing components from Ukraine. People arrived there for yesterday's rally. Some were in the crowd, others were preparing the device. Or maybe they were the same people

Does Georgia really need it?
Note that we are not talking about an attack on an airfield, a large oil depot or a weapons arsenal.
Or energy objects.
For now, this is more of a demonstration of the possibilities that they might get something else next time.

A whole crew prepares such devices. And they need a considerable runway for takeoff. Moreover, a good, even runway, about 200x15 meters. Or more.
Well, of course - a control vehicle based on an army truck.

[guest]

Kadyrov: Prisoners killed in special forces attack on university in Chechnya
https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2024/10/29/kadyrov-pri-atake-na-universitet-specnaza-v-chechne-pogibli-plennye

[Konnick]

Kadyrov: Prisoners killed in special forces attack on university in Chechnya

And not a single student...
It's disgusting...in a fight you need to show your courage, and not make all sorts of statements

[realist]

of course he has the right to give such an order! but the resource of prisoners for exchange must also be available! maybe not all 200, maybe every other one?

[Maks1995]

E .....
And this does not violate any conventions? laws of Russia?

And as for Kadyrov, okay, he can spit on Russian laws (there are a lot of cases described in the media).
But the fact that the media happily covers part of this... IMHO, something has become completely wrong with the brains in Russia.

Previously, the media sometimes happily wrote that the Ukrainians themselves were surrendering en masse... And now?

[acetophenone]

I think this statement is purely for internal use. Of course, no one will shoot anyone for show.

[roosei]

Ingenious! Brilliant! Geneva Convention? No, I haven't heard of it. We need to protect our Caucasian values, and we don't have time to read all these international papers... I also hate the Bandera scum, but the rights of prisoners were not invented by me, and to say so is already incitement to commit WAR CRIMES. But some characters get away with everything, right?

[roosei]

Do we now have Kadyrov as commander-in-chief????

[Wayfarer_2]

In general, it’s interesting - who are the units from Chechnya subordinate to?

[Grossvater]

Quote: BlackMokona

So what if the Ukrainian Armed Forces will fight much more desperately. The main thing is not to offend Kadyrov.

Forgive me, but at best you are writing not the smartest things. Having a scarecrow has never hurt anyone. They will surrender to someone else, or they will surrender without resistance at all. Who knows. In this case, Kadyrov is masterfully playing up his reputation as a "tough guy".

[Ponimatel]

Quote: svp67

Let's see the reaction of our government, if it exists. Such public statements must be stopped

Very funny. Good joke.

[Maximum.1]

E' giusto così ,si doveva smettere di fare prigionieri fin da quando quei terroristi ucraini avevano iniziato a sparare sui civili inermi. Avanti così ragazzi senza nessuna pietà o compassione e che DIO abbia cura di voi.

[storm]

Wouldn't Kadyrov's statement do a "disservice" to the servicemen of the Russian Armed Forces who are in captivity in the Ukrainian Armed Forces...

[mitlantecutli_zen]

Kadirov es impulsivo, pero no es él quien decide si el ejército ruso toma o no prisioneros.