Ukrainian Channel: General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine began to transfer reserves from the Kharkov and Zaporizhzhya directions to the Kursk region

Despite the difficult situation for the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the Kursk region, there will be no order to withdraw troops, Zelensky's office demands not only to hold positions, but also to expand control over Russian territory. For this purpose, more "reserves" withdrawn from other sections of the front will be sent to this direction. This was reported by the Ukrainian TG channel "Legitimny" with reference to its own source.

Zelensky's office demanded that Commander-in-Chief Syrsky strengthen the Ukrainian Armed Forces group in the Kursk region by transferring additional forces there. According to available information, the General Staff decided to remove some units from the Kharkiv and Zaporizhia directions and send them to the Sumy region to form a reserve. Kyiv does not think about the fact that this decision weakens other directions, which Russia takes advantage of.

The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, at the request of the President's Office, is removing brigades from the Kharkov and Zaporizhzhya directions, transferring them to the Kursk region. The Kursk adventure is devouring all reserves, which is causing a shortage of manpower in the most critical direction in the Donbass,

- writes the channel.

Kyiv is again talking about a possible failure of the front, since the Ukrainian Armed Forces do not have enough forces and resources to hold the entire front line. In some areas, the defense line is becoming thinner, which Russian troops can take advantage of. Nevertheless, the Kiev junta believes that there is no need to abandon the Kursk direction, the presence of Ukrainian soldiers on Russian soil creates the illusion of the Ukrainian Armed Forces being able to advance and win.

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[carpenter]

The presence of Ukrainian soldiers on Russian soil creates the illusion that the Ukrainian Armed Forces are able to attack and achieve victories.

Be that as it may, the fascists will soon have to run away, it’s not their size.

[terms]

The main thing is to fertilize the land with them more. At least with those in Kursk. These inhumans should not even be taken prisoner, only executions.

[pudelartemon]

For an expired gopher, cheap show-offs are obviously more important than protecting one's own territory. And our guys seem to have taken things seriously in Kursk. So welcome to the meat grinder, saucepan heads.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: pudelartemon

For an expired gopher, cheap show-offs are obviously much more important than protecting one's own territory.

Showing off is all well and good, but here, as I think, the matter already smells of a serious mental disorder. Against the background of taking various prohibited drugs - easily.

I'll have to ask my school friend, a psychiatrist who is widely known in his narrow professional circles, about this issue. He doesn't understand anything about military matters - he's a "jacket" and works in the military department of a medical institute. But he understands everything that concerns obsessive ideas and images, paranoid delusions and his other cunning professional tricks.

[bayard]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Showing off is all well and good, but here, as I think, the matter already smells of a serious mental disorder. Against the background of taking various prohibited drugs - easily.

It is not worth reducing everything to one (rather comical) person, this was and is an operation prepared and planned by NATO headquarters. And the presence of foreign mercenaries and Polish special forces in the first echelons only emphasizes and confirms this.
It was not possible to pull our reserves from the eastern front, the offensives there continue and are developing quite successfully, but NATO is running out of resources to sufficiently supply the Ukrainian Armed Forces and they are talking about some kind of truce and intend to bargain at the negotiations precisely with the captured territories of the Kursk region. They are already ready to give up Donbass entirely, and if the eastern front collapses, even retreat beyond the Dnieper (we are talking about NATO headquarters, not the Ukrainian Armed Forces and Kyiv), they really need a respite, launch their own military-industrial complex and rearmament / build-up of the potential of their own armies. Right now, all resources are being devoured by the war in Ukraine. For us, giving such a respite is counterproductive - our Army has only gained potential and combat experience for much more decisive and large-scale offensive operations. And without a bridgehead in the Kursk region, bargaining with us will be very difficult. So the order was given - to hold at any cost as an argument in the desired, coveted negotiations. Their goal now is to negotiate a time-out for 2-3 years. And try to destabilize the domestic political situation during this time. They will destabilize both the "patriotic public" against the "power of traitors", and the Wahhabi migrants, blowing up Russia from within.
The government doesn't catch mice with migrants and gives all the cards to the enemy, the "patriotic rebellion" has not yet matured, but the degree is rising. Against this background, any negotiations and especially collusion will blow up the situation. And judging by the migration policy ... the government is behaving very "strangely".
From a purely military point of view, the Kursk Trap is advantageous for the Ukrainian Armed Forces because it allows us to burn their reserves with high productivity, bleeding other fronts dry. But soon it will rain, the mud will fall, and activity on the fronts will decrease for objective reasons. They want to use this pause for negotiations. They will persuade the Kremlin to betrayal.

[Zoldat_A]

Actually, there is nothing to add or object to.

Is this -

Quote: bayard

pause and want to take advantage of it for negotiations. They will try to persuade the Kremlin to betrayal.

- that's the only thing I'm afraid of.
Well, I'm okay... I'm sitting on my Volga, on a soft sofa, pressing buttons. Who cares what I say and what I think...
What's worse is that the troops are afraid of the same thing. My son came on vacation, I went there on business, and I saw my son and talked to his friends - they don't want to discuss it out loud, but a certain tension is felt.
Our "top brass" can sell me out - not for the first time, I've already got used to it and have immunity. But to sell out those who are now in the trenches, who are going on "assaults" - that would be really bad. And someone in Moscow would get their butt burned.

[terms]

I think many will be on fire. Because the question will simply arise: "What, was all this in vain?". Why then start a war? We must defend the Russian population to the end, and not suffer with half measures. To snatch the entire territory of Novorossiya, the entire Black Sea coast, in general, somewhere up to Kyiv, ideally - somewhere along the line "Transnistria-Rivne-Belarus". We need a security zone. Firstly, from the pigs themselves, i.e. the more territories they lose, the harder it will be for them to hide, there will be fewer mobilization resources, fewer hands for the economy. Secondly, without access to the sea, the stew will generally lose serious logistics chains. Thirdly, direct access to Transnistria will greatly cool the ardor of both the mad queen Sandu and the pigs, so that they do not cherish illusions about opening a front in the republic. In general, many strategic tasks are being solved, and many spokes will be put in the wheels of NATO partners. And without all this, everything that was "before" will be practically in vain. NATO will help Tushina build new fortified areas, and everything will start over again sooner or later. We will have a lot of unnecessary victims again, and the Americans do not feel sorry for the residents of 404, for them they are a banal consumable, like printer paper.
As for questions to the "upper crust" in such a truce, they should remember that the tsarist garbage power lost three wars in a row before the revolution. Crimean, Russo-Japanese (which was ineptly squandered in a winning position), and then World War I. The Russian people are patient, but if you steam their brains "to the point of melting" - their wrath is terrible.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote from termos

I think many people's butts will burn. Because the question will simply arise: "What, was all this in vain?". Why then start the war?

That's what I'm talking about, and my son and the men at the front are talking about the same thing.
I don't want to remember how we were embarrassed to wear awards in the 90s. How I myself ran into "I didn't send you there..." several times.

And by the way,

Quote from termos

Regarding questions to the “upper crust” during such a truce, they should remember that the tsarist garbage power lost three wars in a row before the revolution.

We remember the slogan of the leader of the world proletariat: "Let's turn the imperialist war into a civil war!" And it wouldn't hurt for the authorities to remember, because a country can lose a war, but when the authorities throw the war away, they get two revolutions in less than fifteen years. Among all the awards of my family that I keep, there is a medal received for the Brusilov breakthrough, and the "Red Banner" with a pin for the Civil War.
Today, of course, we have no time for revolutions, the bourgeoisie is just waiting for that. But the question of how to stay in one's position usually arises for the authorities quite suddenly.

[stankow]

I agree with you, but I will clarify that after the Crimean War there was the victorious Russo-Turkish War of 1877-1878. With the return of the fleet to the World Cup, etc. So "only" two unsuccessful wars in a row. But in Russia even one unsuccessful war is not forgiven. Very fraught. No need to relax!

[private person]

And someone in Moscow will get their butt burned.

And I immediately remember the “March of Justice” by Prigozhin and the “Wagners”; the authorities were very alarmed then.

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: pudelartemon

Welcome to the meat grinder, potheads.

Well, in this massacre our guys are also dying, especially since we are advancing.
But the truth is on our side and no matter how difficult it is, the outcome is clear to everyone.
The drug addict understands this too, but now he has nowhere to go, got involved in a scam, achieved little, lost a lot of equipment and people, now he can only frantically try to hold on. Otherwise, kaput. There's already a long-haired hippie, fat-assed Borka Johnson, who has disowned the failure of the Istanbul agreements, like the Ukrainians themselves made this decision.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: LIONnvrsk

No matter how hard it may be, the outcome is clear to everyone.
The drug addict understands this too, but now he has nowhere to go, he got involved in a scam

I remembered the film "Battalions Ask for Fire". The units are sent to capture and hold the bridgehead, waiting for reinforcements, and the main attack is in a completely different place. Yes, a huge moral burden on the commanders - to send troops knowingly to be slaughtered. Knowing that they will not wait for the main forces. But it was justified, it was important.

And when the meat grinder is caused only by an obsessive idea from a drug-induced delirium, then everything really loses its meaning and turns into a bloodbath.

I said in the comment above that, in my opinion, this was all started not just out of incompetence. It seems that without a qualified psychiatrist it is impossible to figure this out.

[Andrey VOV]

A small remark: the film, in general, depicted, to put it mildly, the events of those years incorrectly.

[Magog_]

In the film, the very phrase from the title "the battalions are asking for fire", which they never received to support their actions, gives the enemy many reasons to consider such actions of the Red Army forces as distracting. And the conclusion at the end of the film that the enemy believed in the plan of our command only strengthens the impression of the naivety of the film's script...

[Poplar]

The film is based on the book by Yuri Bondarev, a WWII veteran. Yes, some things are smoothed over, some are embellished, but it is a work of art. But I would not rate the book by a front-line artilleryman as naive.

[Magog_]

I'll take a look at the book when I get a chance. There may have been similar episodes during the war: they captured bridgeheads but couldn't hold them. But where the main landing was planned, there were enough covert forces and support equipment. The film shows the landing of two incomplete battalions without any fire support, and for some reason the enemy believed that the main bridgehead was being formed... In order to convince the enemy of your alleged intentions, you need to arrange it so that you yourself will believe in the truth of your own false actions for a while - there's no other way! The Nazis couldn't establish a solid defense along the Dnieper, so the enemy's tactics were based on the fact that random weak bridgeheads were "dropped into the river" by mobile armored groups. On our side, there were even attempts to capture such bridgeheads with the help of airborne forces (in the Kanev area, for example), but the enemy coped with this quite successfully, without attracting significant forces. In reality, the Dnieper was successfully crossed (i.e., the bridgeheads were firmly held) as a result of creating several strategic areas with the necessary support. And in such a situation, it was possible to "play" with the enemy the game: "false-true".

[begemot20091]

Yes, dear sir! If you haven't mastered "Battalions Ask for Fire" by now, and you're going to judge military events here... The Dnieper - there was no continuous defense. My uncle got a hero's title for forcing the Dnieper. It was a continuous mess of fire. The Red Army's losses in the battle for the Dnieper were enormous: irretrievable losses alone amounted to more than 400 thousand people, sanitary losses - 1,2 million people. Yes, the Kanev landing was a major failure for Zhukov and Vatutin. But its remnants still "made a lot of noise". They even broke out of one, and then another encirclement.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: LIONnvrsk

In this massacre, our guys are also dying, especially since we are advancing

What difference does it make where to destroy the Ukrainian army in the Kursk region or near Pokrovsk? In the Kursk region, it is perhaps even more advantageous (no matter how cynical it may look) - since the enemy is on foreign soil, without fortifications or even populated areas where they can get a foothold, there are not so many.
It is quite possible that this is why our people are in no hurry.

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote from: nik-mazur

What difference does it make where to destroy the Ukrainian army in the Kursk region or near Pokrovsk? In the Kursk region, perhaps, it is even more profitable

I think there is. Yes, we are on our own land, but it is not very pleasant to raze our villages and cities to smithereens with FABs. That is why, it seems to me, our guys are acting carefully, without haste, saving the lives of the soldiers.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: LIONnvrsk

It's not very pleasant to raze your villages and cities to smithereens with FABs

Morally, perhaps, but from a military point of view, it hardly matters.

[Kuzmitsky]

I don’t want to call Krasnoarmeysk Pokrovsk, but I have to – otherwise they won’t understand what we’re talking about.

As for the difference between Sudzha and Pokrovsk in terms of FAB bombings, I disagree. The only difference is that Sudzha was occupied two months ago, and Pokrovsk - in 2014, right after Maidan. And so the DPR today is the same Russian region as the Kursk region. Both are our land, our cities and our people.

[terms]

It is clear that they are dying. It is clear that it is a pity for them all, but such are the realities of war, neither we nor they can escape it. Another thing is that, all things being equal, bio-garbage from the garbage dump without a drop of sovereignty dies for absolutely foreign interests. Our guys die at least for the interests of their leaders, no matter what they are expressed in. This is the fundamental difference in the problems of the parties to the conflict. Although geopolitically, both of our countries are the most losing parties.
It's just that 404 is the biggest loser in this issue by a huge margin, because the war is on their territory, they have lost it and the losses are only growing. They have completely killed their economy and thoughtlessly and naively sent to slaughter more than a hundred thousand people. Imbecility and courage.
Our country is in second place. Because we are simply directly drawn into the conflict.
The EU is third, because they are not drawn into the military conflict, they are being sucked dry, then Britain, and the Americans are in the most advantageous position in the conflict.
By the way, the Chinese, although not drawn into this conflict, in my opinion, have the maximum gain in the long term. Because 1. they, unlike the Americans and especially the stupid Europeans, do not squander the economy on this conflict at all, on the contrary, they earn. 2. instead of unleashing conflicts, they stupidly invest trillions in development now. The second point especially, as it seems to me, gives the Chinese a head start against the American economy in the long term for decades. The Chinese have already overtaken the Americans in terms of the volume of the economy in the world share, by the way. I hope that with such a layout, the Americans are in fact trying in vain to jump on a departed train.

[Machito]

Quarter 95.
This is not a show. This is a war. And the Kursk Bulge is not the Demyansk Bulge.
The longer Zelensky persists in holding on to Sudzha, the more he will lose.
The Ukrainian Armed Forces are in a critical situation in the Kurakhovsky direction: Gornyak and Kurakhovka are hanging by a thread, and he is engaged in PR campaigns.

[terms]

Well, that's great, why bother him? When the personal component of the top management and their thoughtless desires interfere with the management in a conflict, it only adds to the problems. Not everyone has the IQ to learn Hitler's lessons.

[Dirty Liar]

If Ukrainian resources write about this, then it might not be some kind of bait.

[Midnight Bear]

This is not a Ukrainian resource, don't worry. In Ukraine it is recognized as Russian and blocked. Why posts from there are fed to us, to "Military Review" - I find it difficult to answer.

[Serik Bur]

Quote: pudelartemon

For an expired gopher, cheap show-offs are obviously much more important than protecting one's own territory.

Yeah, the show-offs are cheap, but most likely it's just sheer stubbornness. For him, admitting his failure is suicide, and how many souls will fall there is a trifle.

[Oleg Barchev]

The loss of a foothold in the Kursk region is critical for the Ukrainian Armed Forces for ideological reasons (activity and achievements for their own population), and political reasons (demonstration of capabilities and the ability to be active in front of the project curators from the "yashigtnoy regional committee"). Let's imagine that the Ukrainian Armed Forces are forced to retreat back to the territory of the Sumy region. What's the bottom line: in just over 2 months they have lost more than 20 thousand trained fighters, hundreds of pieces of equipment, the result achieved is temporary and has now been nullified. In ideological terms, the population understands that the operation has failed, the goals set have not been achieved; in political terms, if the expulsion of the Ukrainian Armed Forces from the territory of the Kursk region ends before the elections in the United States, then this is another weighty argument for the project curators in Washington to begin active attempts to find compromises with Moscow.

[AlOrg]

Zelepuki has another option to bring large reserves to the Kursk region during the autumn, winter, spring thaw and acquire the remains of their reserves for a miserable existence and ultimately for the death in the Kursk region of significantly more than 20 thousand

[Vasyan1971]

Kyiv is once again talking about a possible failure of the front

Exactly. This has been talked about for the third year on both sides...

[Spark-tia]

Chemical and bacteriological weapons - that's the terrible thing you need to be wary of Ukrainians.
They are capable of any criminal meanness. How to save yourself, how to control - a difficult task.
It was in the media - along the banks of the river (I think it was Psel) in the Kursk border area there are a lot of dead fish.
The river was rich in fish...

[terms]

Of course, you should be afraid, but you can play this game together. Every time this fact again and again becomes a surprise for the pigs, who constantly think that they are the most cunning - they start squealing "anastozaschho"))) Look, they recently "invented" a new method - burning forest plantations with napalm from drones. Epic in general, yes. No worse than "pig baker", but cheaper. When ours also started doing this, the pigs' faces became much simpler))) By the way, the same thing happened with cassettes at one time. For some reason they were very surprised when ours also found such toys))))) But FABs, of course, in this conflict became the biggest hemorrhoid for the pigs. Also a relatively cheap weapon, because we have God knows how much of it left in our warehouses from the USSR, probably enough to break the moon in half))))

[Spark-tia]

To poison water, earth. Only non-humans are capable of this.
The land is not theirs.

[FoBoss_VM]

If they transfer reserves and expose the front, maybe it's time to liberate Kherson and Zaporozhye? Well, logically speaking

[suhorukofal]

Probably, it is worthwhile to destroy these same reserves first, preferably on the march. Maybe Zelensky will think this is not enough, he will go for further weakening. And it is better to destroy the group near Kursk, so that our own forces are freed up.

[Poplar]

And I had this question a month and a half ago: if the khokhly are removing units from other LBS areas for redeployment to the Kursk region, does that mean they don't have any other reserves? And when some article says that the chubaty have practically no reserves, a bunch of doubters immediately shout: they're lying, this is disinformation, they have 200 thousand here, 100 thousand there, 150 thousand here. But it turns out that in fact there aren't many reserves.

[Nexcom]

They apparently don’t have any properly trained people left, but they’ll probably be able to squeeze out another half a million.

[Poplar]

They can squeeze out some, I don't argue. I mean the present moment.

[terms]

Well, here it is worth remembering history. In the Great Patriotic War, the Germans lost only 6 million people in combat. Ours are a little more, but in percentage terms, everything is the opposite: the Germans lost about 10% of the population, the USSR about 5-6. But even such losses were fatal for the Germans, the country was completely destroyed, their desire to fight disappeared for a long time, to this day the Germans' eyes twitch nervously at the mention of the war with Russia)))) This is by the way for those who like to shout that the pigs there danced in tens of millions of people. In fact, this number can be safely divided by 5, and even by 10. Because they have no actual successes, the front is constantly moving only to the west. And for this negative result, they killed a lot of people. The further the front goes, the more desire the population will definitely not have to fight. Although at the beginning of the war, a lot of people signed up as volunteers. Well, from a certain point, I think, hysteria will begin to grow in society, because there is a certain level beyond which people begin to accept the principle of "what do we have to lose"; ultimately, they can start a rebellion. Where it is, no one knows exactly, but it definitely exists. It's just different for different countries and in different situations.

[AlOrg]

When in military operations it is not military logic that prevails but political immediate tasks and goals, expect trouble. Zelepuka follows in the footsteps of his grandfather, just as the possessed Fuhrer once demanded the unblocking of Stalingrad and burned significant reserves without achieving any results

[terms]

Is it bad? Well, it's good) Let him make more mistakes, it's better for us.

[AlOrg]

The adventure of Zelepuka and his field marshals in the Kursk region is the adventure of Krynka-2 on a much larger scale and, accordingly, with much worse consequences for them.

[2al]

This information may well be disinformation covering up preparations for a counterattack, for example in the Krasnoarmeysk (Pokrovsk) area. The brigades being sent "to Kursk" can easily be redeployed to other directions, the bridges across the Dnieper are intact, and trains are even going to Krasnoarmeysk.

[FoBoss_VM]

Ukrainian channel: The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine began to transfer reserves from the Kharkov and Zaporizhzhya directions to the Kursk region ©

Why doesn’t the General Staff take advantage of this opportunity and attack Kharkov and Zaporozhye?