BG Khushalayev and two militants destroyed in Chechnya

The information center of the National Anti-Terrorism Committee told 7 in March that during the special operation that began today in the Vedeno district of the Chechen Republic, three bandits were killed. According to the preliminary data, one of them is Adam Khushalayev, 1978 of the year of birth, nicknamed “Abu-Malik”.

As reported by the NAK, special measures to identify the bandit participants began today around 8.30 in a mountainous wooded area near the village of Agishbataya by special forces of the FSB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia. Security forces discovered a group of armed bandits.

- The militants, trying to escape, put up armed resistance to the special forces, using an automatic weapon. Additional forces and means were attracted to neutralizing the gang, the area of ​​the special operation was blocked by units of the Interior Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia and the Ministry of Internal Affairs for the Chechen Republic, the NAK information center reported.

In the course of the persecution and the ensuing armed clash, three bandits were destroyed. According to the Operational Headquarters in the Czech Republic, after neutralizing the Gakayev brothers in January 2013 during the special operation, Khushalayev began to claim the role of leader of a gang that operates in the Vedeno district. For more than ten years, he was an active member of the bandit underground, organized and took direct part in gang attacks on the settlements of Tsa-Vedeno in the 2007 year, Elistanzhi in the 2008 year, as well as on the law enforcement officers and military personnel.

At the site of the clashes, two machine guns and backpacks with uniforms were found.

- Unfortunately, during the clashes, one law enforcement officer was killed, another soldier was injured. There are no injured among the civilian population.

Special operation completed. The necessary operational and investigative actions are continuing, the NAC reported.

Comments

[peter-tank]

Let it burn in hell !!!

[Civil]

all to hell!

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[antiaircrafter]

Quote: Civil

all to hell!

Did you personally know everyone?

[tupolev-95]

I killed him on the spot))))))))))))))))))))

[dmitreach]

It is a pity that not without losses among ours. Thanks to law enforcement officers for their service.
The blessed memory of the soldiers who died in the battle with terrorists!

I’m sorry that I’ll post the picture for the hundredth time, but I like the meaning! To hell means to hell! So that the Imaratshim spins there!

[Region65]

Comrade Civil, let me, with your permission, copy and paste the entire list of "firewood" for the furnace in the ADU and use it in the future on various resources ???

[Civil]

Region65,

this is an old joke like that)

[Maks111]

Well ... here, again, the loss.

[Nick]

Quote: Max111

Well ... here, again, the loss

Yes, I’m sorry for the guys, it’s a shame that for the sake of destroying this scum, our fighters sacrifice their lives. Bright memory to them! But in war, unfortunately, sometimes there are losses ...

[Melchakov]

peter-tank,
And where is comrade S_mironv. Let him explain to us that this is all a performance, that our units are not doing anything there. Comrade S_mironv, where are you, ayu.

[Aleks28]

Quote: Melchakov

And where is comrade S_mironv.

Shhhh ... Don’t remember, otherwise you’ll get trouble.

[Region65]

he is somewhere in the list of Civil :)))

[serega52]

And this macaque in a cap, was free? Urgently turn in to the zoo!

[aleksandr.k]

They are not militants, there is a simple Russian word: - bandits.

[lechatormosis]

Special forces work not only in Chechnya

[boots]

Such a fate should wait for every gangster and not otherwise.

[Sandov]

- Unfortunately, during the clashes, one law enforcement officer was killed, another soldier was injured. There are no injured among the civilian population.

boots,

It is advisable to take care of our fighters, and the rot must be etched out anyway. It cannot do without Western dough. Our "partners" continue to shit behind their backs.

[Region65]

where are the "firewoods" from? from the "forest", apparently, "father", you hear, "chops" and I take it away :))))

[Dmitry 2246]

Eternal memory to the soldier of law enforcement agencies. A speedy recovery to the second.

[Fox]

how similar to Kadyrov in his youth it looks like ... and yes. it’s enough to call rebels, militants ... GANGS. so it’s more correct.

[AlNikolaich]

Quote: Fox

how similar to Kadyrov in his youth ...

Rather, a duremara!
Only these cattle cannot die humanly. When they are taken, they try to destroy everything around them! They do not care a woman, a child, I think before they die, they would have banged their own children ... Satanists!
You have to cut the critters!

[BIGLESHIY]

Quote: Fox

enough can be called rebels, militants ... BANDS. so more correctly.

Mad dogs, caucasians, mutants. Everyone is waiting for them to hell.

[Lakkuchu]

The vile shakalya face.

[antiaircrafter]

Quote: Lakkuchu

Shakalya face.

And in my opinion it looks like an owl.

[Averias]

Quote: antiaircrafter

And in my opinion it looks like an owl.

This is not an owl, this is a mouse - and the eyes are large from the fact that

But seriously, here's another freak less. So mothers will not cry.

[Region65]

but for me it’s like a monkey from the zoo ... even his nickname is suitable .. Abu Makak ....

[DDR]

That's good! On Earth, it became three freaks less. Soldier Eternal Memory !!!

[terminator_163]

When will they completely end this scum? ...

[firefox090]

When their sources of financing and ideological support will be completely destroyed. Those. not soon :(

[Sandov]

firefox090,
Qatar and Saudi dough pump in nemery. Maybe our special services should think about an adequate answer.

[Recon]

Find and destroy. Repeat as much as needed.

[zennon]

All this is meaningless. We are struggling with the investigation, not paying attention to the reasons. They breed like insects. Well, they destroyed one or two. So they have seven in the shops sitting! Look at what they have at home. From our own budget! We need to separate the Caucasus, but at the same time never take them to your permanent residence on a national basis. The border to the castle. Otherwise, it will never end.

[Lopatov]

What else are you ready to separate?

[zennon]

You go there to relax, take the children? No? Then why do you consider this land yours? Why do you agree to invest our money there, including primarily on these freaks?

[Aleks28]

Quote: zennon

You go there to relax, take the children? No? Then why do you consider this land yours? Why do you agree to invest our money there, including primarily on these freaks?

Once you’ve already left there, you yourself know how it ended. So, there is no choice, you have to invest.

[Melchakov]

Quote: zennon

You go there to rest, take the children

Why not. The air is clean, mountains, springs. There are not everywhere terrorists.

Quote: zennon

Why do you agree to invest our money there

Because it is also Russia.

Quote: zennon

and primarily on these freaks?

Well yes. They come to you, they break open the door, take your money, go to the Caucasus and give it to the militants. Nearby are shops with weapons, near which FSB officers are standing, selling trunks for every taste ...

[Lopatov]

I lived in the Caucasus for 10 years.

[Melchakov]

Quote: Spade

What else are you ready to separate?

He only had Moscow to stay, and the money from the budget should be sent to him.

[Melchakov]

This is how "human rights activists" and "freedom fighters" work. Stop feeding the Caucasus, then we don't need the Caucasus, then we don't need Tatarstan, then Kaliningrad, then the Far East, then Siberia, etc.

[zennon]

Especially for the Melchakovs and others like him. Nobody gave you the right to say that I am a "human rights activist", etc. I was unluckily born in Central Asia, my parents were assigned there after universities. We are one of those Russians who lost everything there We were simply abandoned. I know very well the price of "internationalism".
Yes, I live in Moscow, for the 9th year I have been renting a room with almost no hope of ever buying a place for myself. But you don’t understand the little ones. But to Lopatov, the question is: do you have any concrete proposals? How many more lives of Russian people are you ready to put?

[Melchakov]

zennon,
And you don't be like "human rights activists". They don't need the Caucasus, you know. Let's drop it, just a question. In 5 years Russia will remain ?!

[zennon]

Russia will remain. We have plenty to do. You need to return the Crimea, the Donbas, the territories that Lenin gave to Kazakhstan. But you always have to endure and feed the greyhound khachiks with your position. Or do you have something to offer?

[Lopatov]

Your problem is that you have never lived in the Caucasus. And do not understand the mentality of the local population. To leave is to lose. Show weakness. And to rage such problems, in comparison with which the current ones seem childish. I know what happened there between the first and second wars. Moscow woke up only after the bombings of houses, and in the south of Russia chaos was going on all this time. Explosions, hostages, murders. Tractor drivers and shepherds with machine guns. Muscovites do not understand ...

[zennon]

I’m not a Muscovite. You didn’t understand me. I wrote: close the borders for them according to ethnicity! I’m not going to understand their mentality, I’m completely purple about what they think. Besides, I offer solutions to problems. Do you disagree with them? discuss. The trouble is that you yourself do not offer anything criticizing. I repeat the question. Do you have any concrete proposals? How many more lives of Russian people are you ready to put?

[Nayhas]

Do you think that over time the Chechens will forgive and calm down?

[Khamsin]

I am also from Central Asia and proud of it. I live now in Russia. Yes, it’s hard to come from there empty-handed, start all over from scratch (I arrived with six thousand rubles) BUT for that, we Russians too - RUSSIANS WILL NOT RETURN !!! Now he built a house, bought a car, his own little business. So there is nothing to whine - WORK NECESSARY !!!

[Region65]

no, well, let's separate Sakhalin, Siberia and everything else, leave Russia within the Moscow Ring Road and what then? there will be nothing to eat at once !!!!! and we will all have to deliver humanitarian aid to this "little" Russia)))

[MAG]

For six months I was at the outpost of Agishbatoy still dreaming! 3 jackals burn in hell is good, but the fact that our losses are bad, where are the drones helicopters? Ideally, it should be so, the artillery detached the UAV; the reconnaissance worked out and finished off! And we have all the infantry climbing mountains

[Region65]

Quote: MAG

where are the drones helicopters?

as where? at exhibitions, on advertising stands, in advertising brochures, well, a couple must surely fly around the Kremlin and around the residences of different ... and the rest is all in China, India and several "fraternal" Arab states.

[MAG]

The question is so for air shaking, the answer is not needed, everyone knows where!

[AleksUkr]

Lenta.ru, 27.06.2009/XNUMX/XNUMX
Kadyrov promised to destroy militant leaders in Chechnya in a month

All militant leaders in Chechnya must be destroyed within a month. This was announced on Saturday by the President of the Republic Ramzan Kadyrov, the Interfax news agency reports.
Earlier, the Chechen president forbade his subordinates to go on vacation until all the militants were destroyed in Chechnya and asked them not to hurt anyone.

THIS WAS SAID SEVERAL YEARS BACK!

Natural questions arise - have officials gone on vacation in recent years? And if they left, then this is a direct disobedience to Kadyrov, since it turns out that they ignore his instructions.
- How many ringleader militants operate in Chechnya? Or do local security officials see each leader as a leader in raising the status of their activities? Indeed, security forces have carried out several dozen such operations in the Chechen Republic in recent years.

The head of the operational headquarters in the Chechen Republic, Colonel-General Arkady Edelev: The operational headquarters conducted more than 2000 operations. Over the past five years, the number of illegal armed groups in the Chechen Republic has almost quadrupled: from 1600 militants to 440. Of the 180 gang groups, 32 remain The possibilities of bandits are also reduced. Together with the local police, we eliminated more than 300 militant bases and about 700 hiding places with weapons and ammunition.

It turns out there were 1600 militants, i.e. bandits. And they had more than 300 bases ????. for every 4 bandits 1 base, and for 2 militants one cache of weapons? Is it not bold? (Of these: "More than 600 members of the bandit underground and their accomplices voluntarily returned to a peaceful life.") And what then remains for the specialists?

[Tersky]

Quote: AleksUkr

Kadyrov promised to destroy militant leaders in Chechnya in a month

Alexander Borisovich, ! The main thing to promise, google is Abrek Khasu, who could be destroyed in the Chechen-Ingush Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic only on March 28, 1971, the search has been conducted since 1942. It would have been said, and there the map will fall (PR about Kadyrov is not alien )

[Region65]

Quote: AleksUkr

Earlier, the Chechen president forbade his subordinates to go on vacation until all the militants were destroyed in Chechnya and asked them not to hurt anyone.

and so his subordinates run around the mountains, they told them not to go on vacation :)))))))

[cumastra1]

Bandits cannot be finished off because of corruption. Where do they get the money from? Not only from abroad, they are fighting with our money. How many coins are tapped into the Caucasus? many, very many. Surely some kind of cunning special part of them is directed to the formation of bandit formations, forgive me for the pun. Who controls financial flows? what shisha give five-room apartments to all kinds of French, and to the mermaids who fled from there in order to save their lives, what did they give? at least some angle? at least somewhere? correct if I'm wrong. This is where the whole picture comes together. We do not love our people, we leave them to their fate, but to the unfortunate Caucasus - all the best is on the saucer. Where did such double standards come from? As long as the state does not seriously take up the restoration of order, there will be nothing sensible. Basmachism also seemed invincible - they had decided. and here is in the power to decide - there would be a will.

[zennon]

You are right in many ways, in almost everything. To put things in order you need a program of action, which means we strive for it. The trouble is that we have different concepts of order. Think about why you had to fight there for centuries? Yes, because that they have no greater valor than to steal livestock, to enslave people. Not to create, but to rob. It has always been that way. On Catherine’s second table weekly reports were laid on the raids of Caucasians on Russian settlements. Talk to those who lived there, served. They are good know their mentality. Well, and their shooting weddings, the greyhound is here to you and so from spring.

[elmi]

But these militants are Russian citizens who were born, grew up, went to school with us, but then Arab ideologists probably stupefied their heads at the suggestion of America. So they went the wrong way. Someone finds an end to the dead, and someone stops in time, thinks over. I say because there was an example in life. While studying at the university, he became friends with one guy, an Ingush by nationality, and to my and his surprise it turned out that once we were enemies of each other, fought on different sides, I am on the side of the militants in the Russian Federation. Then, as he was telling, after the shell shock, he stopped in time and thought better of it, just at first they fooled his head, so he went like everyone else. Why am I all this? Each of us in our lives makes mistakes and everyone has the right to correction. Now we both benefit Russia, and if I faced him in 1 Chechen nose to nose, one of us would remain, and someone would lie in the ground and not bring any benefit later.

[dmitreach]

“Dudayev was a well-trained officer. He graduated from the Gagarin Academy, worthily commanded a regiment and a division. Firmly controlled the aviation group during the withdrawal of Soviet troops from Afghanistan, for which he was awarded the Order of the Red Banner of Battle. He was distinguished by endurance, calmness and concern for people. A new training base was equipped in his division, dining rooms and an airfield life were equipped, and a firm statutory order was established in the Tartu garrison. Dzhokhar deservedly was awarded the title of Major General of Aviation, "recalled Army Hero Peter General Deinekin.

He wanted fame and set off with his mind. There was a Soviet officer, but he became a terrorist of his own people!

[Vladimir 70]

He wanted fame and set off with his mind. There was a Soviet officer, but he became a terrorist of his own people!

Then, I have a question for you, who is the more terrorist duday or ebn? Before judging the bandits - the Dudaevs, Maskhadovs, Kadyrovs ..... --- you need to start with ebn and his entourage.

[dmitreach]

then from Humpback, while still alive.

[Region65]

there is a good movie, Denial of the Negative. Filmed by Chechens (normal). and so there it is very well and is described in detail how "some" in Moscow and "some" in Grozny * (not without the participation of "some in London and other lairs of parasites) made all the mess ... how" "when ours were already squeezing the militants, how they paid for the militants to leave the encirclement, how on both sides" some "colossal red mullet earned on this ... by the way, the question to people in uniform is why Mr. (not" Mr. ") Berezovsky is in London before still alive? does this dwarf still have money for more or less decent protection ???

[Region65]

Quote: dmitreach

He wanted fame and set off with his mind. There was a Soviet officer, but he became a terrorist of his own people!

.. apparently well he was "hooked" by the overseas dope, "took" him by the cerebellum itself and did not let go until the dog's death ......

[rodevaan]

I can not help but speak on the topic!
Yes, they killed three nonhumans - that's good. The fact that all this fuss with bandits was transferred to the Chechens - yesterday’s militants, and now Kadyrov’s guards and that they are now gnawing each other there - this is certainly Putin’s right tactical move.
But the problem is different. Many write and say, we will separate the Caucasus from Russia and let them bite there. They will never be there themselves. Turkey will come there and what we get from this is easy to guess.
Our government — the tsarist, Soviet, and now Russian — didn’t have to play spools with them, but once they got there, conquered, annexed and colonized the territory, to develop this territory for their needs! What I mean:

It is foolish to demand civilization behavior from representatives of wild mountain tribes. What do you want from people who still lived in the 10th century, for centuries dancing their battle dances by the fire and robbing in the mountains attacking the plain villages? So that they quote you Tolstoy and Pushkin? That they were a standard of etiquette? Do you think the Visigoths or Vikings would behave differently? In order for there to be no problem, you need to deal with this problem, and not a fuck **, as we usually do, but thoroughly and efficiently. The problem of the Caucasus existed even under the kings. And then, as in Soviet times, there was a very favorable opportunity to solve it. For example, to relocate them all from their dense mountains to the plain or to the cities. And not a bunch, but to disperse! So that they do not stack together and do not create foci of tension. Assimilate them with the local population - Russian, Ukrainian, Tatar. And the Caucasus to be populated by Cossacks, Russian colonists. I think this approach would solve the problem of the hot region once and for all.
But the tsarist government and after it the Soviet did not solve this problem. And now it will make it much more difficult.

[zennon]

Wonderful! It's nice to read an intelligent person. But who told you that they would assimilate? They tried it in Geyrope, brought all sorts of things to the cities ... Well, we got tea towns and Londonbads. And you know that in some districts of London in the evenings there is an "Islamic" patrol and only that does not beat up those who at least look like a European? In Oslo, girls are afraid to walk alone. Isn't that kind of assimilation you prepared for us?

[rodevaan]

I know all that you say is written and talked about everywhere. And this is not surprising and got a logical result, because Geyropa did all this through the back hole and threw it on its own, and there it will take it out. So it turned out that the Fritz are beaten in schools, because they are Fritz, and the treasurers are beaten in the streets, because they are white.
I had in mind something else - it must be done wisely. The first is to prevent them from becoming numerous - to dilute them with other peoples. That is, so that they do not have even a theoretically numerical advantage over the titular nation. The second is to prevent them from budding and concentrating in one pile. This is in order to avoid breeding grounds for any rebellious plague, uprisings and other nasty things. The third is to stop encouraging all sorts of nationalist manners in the form of all sorts of autonomies, national identities, and other similar sharply distinctive features.

Of course, the problem had to be dealt with earlier and dealt with it now. And engage in a determined and thorough manner. If you give up everything as God gives, it will turn out the same as in the spineless Geyrope nowadays. Yes, in fact, this is how it turns out - the government simply pays off the problem - pouring a ton of money into the Caucasus region, without solving the essence of the problem. And now it’s much harder to do this!
In other words, the policy should have been as follows: After colonization, they are citizens of the Russian Empire and must have a Russian mentality and a Russian worldview. This is not done overnight, But! To do this, they must merge and dilute with the titular nation, assimilate like many other peoples of Russia - for example, Erzyans, Moksha, Tatars, Ukrainians, and many many others. Then, in this case, firstly, we would civilize these peoples, introduce and instill in them a great Russian culture, take something useful from them, in other words, a more complete interpenetration of cultures would occur, which brings us very close together. Secondly, after such an infusion into our society, these peoples would understand Russian more and better, which would reduce any friction and misunderstanding between them. Thirdly, in this way we would eliminate all auls and dens of warlike savages in the dense mountains, living according to their early medieval wild concepts and customs, because new colonists would live there. Fourth, if all these measures and other effective decisions that would have arisen from the ground were taken and made by the tsarist, Soviet and Russian governments - I am sure that: 1. There would be no Caucasian wars, and in vain bloodshed. Our priceless young guys would not die there. 2. We would later receive quite loyal peaceful assimilated peoples, which would be much more civilized and educated than now. 3. The territory of the Caucasus would be much more comfortable and secure than now. This would be a powerful Russian recreational and economic zone.
Of course, this would not be a matter of one day or year, or even a decade or more. But if we were constantly going in this direction, I think that we would get these or close results.

I somehow see it like this.

[Nayhas]

Those. deport?

[Region65]

Quote: rodevaan

For example, to relocate them all from their dense mountains to the plain or to the cities. And not a bunch, but to disperse! So that they do not stack together and do not create foci of tension. Assimilate them with the local population - Russian, Ukrainian, Tatar. And the Caucasus to be populated by Cossacks, Russian colonists. I think this approach would solve the problem of the hot region once and for all.

so isn’t this thing Comrade Stalin doing ??????? only then someone who did all these things pokhe \\\\ and brought everything back ...

[zadorin1974]

Death to spirits !!!! Kadyrov is just oh ..... - he asked 5 billions for mine clearance in Chechnya - radish for him - it’s better to fill it with a hairdryer with a petal, let them jump over their mountains

[zennon]

I read it carefully and understood you. Yes, it doesn’t sound very stupid. But it seems to me that you don’t see one pitfall, about which all good wishes will be smashed to smithereens in a heap of unmeasured money that will have to be threatened. MENTALITY. Do not confuse. x ..... ov with the Tatars, Moksha, etc. I very much remember one body of an essay, if I may say so. The end of the 90s. The train carriage is somewhere in the south. Healthy ..., absolutely wild laughs and enthusiastically admires ... Shamil Basayev. "Ay young fellow, ah handsome." You are not going to civilize this? If yes, then I am very sad. Professor Mechnikov-Nobel laureate, by the way, used to say: "Even if 50 generations of dogs to chop off the tail, it does not mean that it will not grow at the 51st ". Remember also another professor from the" Dog's Heart ". Do you understand me? The material is completely unsuitable!
Further, wherever different people live, no matter where. Even in the army, even in a foreign land, they all inevitably begin to clump together on a national basis. The tragedy of all crap is that they diligently and stubbornly refuse to understand this. geyropahs with puppy delight, excitedly talk about tolerance and other diarrhea. They say referring to the ethnic garbage that they brought. They do not understand that they are not talking to them. THEY TALK TO THEMSELVES !!! They nod their heads like Chinese idiots and They multiply like insects. Next. How are you going to dilute them? Settle them? They will inevitably buy real estate in the same area. Bundle and negotiate. What then happened to this area, guess? This has happened many times and everywhere. Stalin evicted Caucasians to Kazakhstan. .I know all this not by hearsay. When the United States was organized, they said, "There will be a melting pot," It did not work! Everyone lives in their areas and speaks their own languages. Often for years and never even leaving them! it was possible-registration, special p a settlement, when people simply could not leave or enter. And now how? To erase the personal traits of peoples is a hopeless business. They tried in the USSR. A new community of people - the "Soviet people"! So what. As the USSR collapsed, they did not fight according to childish. "brothers forever." And really just for a snack. And again, as always, you will have to draw resources for your project from the Russians. But how can you ... b tv .... mother !!! Sorry, not I meant you ... well, something like that ...

[rodevaan]

Quote: zennon

became

I understand your indignation, but I would like to specifically focus on this (I think that if this were really the case, the problem would be much smaller!): This problem needs to be dealt with constantly and constantly monitored. Geyropstan does not solve the problem of its many blacks and other Turks, everything is left to chance by itself! Try to say something to the pasties that they are doing something wrong - they will drag them through the courts. It is already openly going on in many issues that it is the indigenous population and not the aliens. There is a proverb - with you behave the way you allow yourself to lead. This is where it is well implemented in practice. They bury themselves with their thoughtless tolerance and bury it completely.
I say that the solution to this problem is not one day, or even a decade. The government, that is, special bodies, commissions, departments - it does not matter, they must constantly monitor this situation, monitor it. It was not by chance that I said about the resettlement of all of them from there to the plains and cities. Why do I see this and think it will be right? You see, it is impossible to make savages cease to be savages if they live in their natural environment and are engaged in their natural affairs — they do not work anywhere, they engage in robbery and violence, they live like early medieval Ostrogoths or Huns by tribal communities. Transferring them from there and dispersing all this heaps around the country (In tsarist and Soviet times there were quite a few of them, about 200 thousand in total. And even less under kings) it would deprive them of their natural habitat - this is the time.
The second - being in a large numerical minority or even alone, among the titular and other nations, not having the opportunity to gather in a heap, since they would be scattered across different settlements, they would have nothing left to do, either integrate or sit apart. Man is a herd animal, social, like gorillas, like wolves, for example. It cannot exist alone, like a hippopotamus or a tiger. Therefore, sooner or later - they would begin to integrate in such conditions. Yes, I agree - those who were resettled from the very beginning, those savages who were torn from their homes and from their favorite activities will behave unfriendly, but as I noted earlier, the time factor is important. Children, and to a greater extent the grandchildren and great-grandchildren of these immigrants, will be more integrated into our society, since they will not be born and will live in the dense mountains and wild auls living according to the primitive laws of the mountains, and not run along the forests with Kalash and grenades, robbing the surrounding villages and towns, they will no longer see, know and feel all this, because they were born in a completely different environment, but they will see civilized cities in front of them, receive education, get the opportunity to live and work full lives in a society in which they gave birth Camping and grow.
Naturally, this whole situation would definitely have to be monitored for several generations. Those who would behave correctly and integrate - continue to lead for some time. A marginal and too unmanageable elements (which naturally would also be) to take into account and, if necessary, quickly and quietly eliminate.
Since there were few of them before, I don’t think that it would be too difficult to keep records of them by the authorities.

Well, somehow I see a correction to the situation.

[zennon]

Well, let's stay with our opinions. I can only note that we were engaged and monitored in the USSR all this very seriously. For many decades. And resettled. Well, what? We have what we have. How exactly to implement all this? Deliver one by one. , two by two all over the country? Wouldn't want to. In an order? Try. They'll write, call, get together. They came to you, for example, and said: "Get ready." Yes, you would have sent it to hell. It was possible under Stalin. And they did And it didn't work. In fact, you want to dissolve the people. We tried many times all over the world. For example, Jews and Gypsies. The carriage is still there. And then you asked us, Russian people, do we want to get this ... as an additive. “I don’t want to lose my own self-identity. The only way out is to evict them all to their historical homeland, grant independence and close the borders. This works out great. We have a huge border with China. It was closed during the Soviet Union. And it would be great if and remained so.

[rodevaan]

The fact of the matter is that they settled in heaps, and not separately. The USSR played the national self-identity of every small nation, something like, I think in the empire, in the tsarist, in the Soviet, which is inhabited by a mass of nationalities - absolutely it is impossible to do. Here the Soviet Union played out and got a bunch of hot spots in the end. The good grandfather Joseph Vissarionovich, for example, evicted Chechens to Kazakhstan, and settled them there as a community, and not separately. This I think was a mistake. Yes, you correctly noticed - it is to dissolve the people - that is what I had in mind. Does it sound wild to you? Not at all! In a multinational state, which Russia is and has always been a policy, the state-forming titular nation should set the general tone - which has always been the case. For centuries, Russians have assimilated many peoples in the conquered territories, which are now so connected with Russia and Russians GENETICALLY that they think and think in Russian, being not Russian by nationality. By the way, by the way - Muslims also integrated well into our society and our nation. Yes - religion, Islam, alien to us, Orthodox, is certainly harder than, say, pagans or Christians integrated, but it is also real and Russia knows such successful examples. If the titular nation does not set the tone for the state, lead the conquered peoples, assimilate them in itself, as Russia has always done, such a country will fall apart into small components and get a bunch of hot spots. The Caucasus has recently become part of Russia - in the 19th century, everything has passed, little time has passed, but this process is long and they need to deal with and solve the problem. If we want, of course to stay there further. Somewhere to decide soft power, somewhere brute, somewhere peace and gingerbread, and somewhere in the order, if you want. What did you think? No one said it would be easy.

Look at the story - all the huge empires that conquered large territories assimilated subjugated peoples within themselves, gave them their civilization, and led them along. In order to consolidate these conquered territories. No other way. The Romans, for example, the Mongols, or even the Russian Empire. You are talking about national identity - do you want to say that you are Russian? Forgive me, but look at the national composition of the Russian Federation! ALL of us are in us - and in you, and in me, and in all other Russians over the centuries there have been so many different bloods and different nationalities that purely Russian (like the same Etruscans or Mongols at one time) has long been gone.
What do you want? It is an integral part of the social life of an empire or federation. Because the empire is a collection of huge conquered territories in which different peoples live. And in order to live in peace, these peoples must coexist closely and inseparably together.
And when the division on the basis of nationality begins, the empire and the federation will fall apart to hell, because each piece will demand its own "nezalezhnost" and buzz. That is why I am talking about dissolution and integration. Note - not aliens from Arabistan or Africa, as is now happening in Geyrop, but Russian citizens who live in the territories conquered by Russia.

Well and accordingly - the other side of the coin - if you do not want to be an empire or a federation - then liberate the conquered territories if you cannot pull them. Stay within the specific princedom of Tver or Moscow. Then we will be a mono-national small state that does not have any real power in the world.

[Was mammoth]

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The good grandfather Joseph Vissarionovich, for example, evicted Chechens to Kazakhstan, and settled them there as a community, and not separately. This I think was a mistake.

Maybe they should have been to the wall of all? No man, no problem. No people, actually cool.
The national question is the most difficult in the world. And so far no one has managed to solve it. The Soviet Union was the closest, and nowadays more coals are thrown into extinguishing these problems. "To whom the war is to whom the mother is dear." There is no deliberate national policy and there is no one to carry out. I am Russian. It seems to me that many of our concepts have become blurred and they began to forget that they learned and learned a lot from our neighbors. And how Russia became Great. I would like a Russian to respect elders as a Chechen and to be hospitable as a Kazakh. And the Chechen and the same Kazakh took the best features of the Russian people. You have to start with yourself. I will allow myself a link. Have you seen this many times on the streets of Russian cities?

[Kibl]

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