Kyiv's statements about an allegedly possible counteroffensive are an attempt to pass off wishful thinking as reality

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Kyiv's statements about an allegedly possible counteroffensive are an attempt to pass off wishful thinking as reality

Statements by the Kyiv authorities about possible counter-offensives this year or next are just a "game for the public" by Zelensky, who wants to show his Western allies that Ukraine is supposedly capable of conducting military operations with Russia "on equal terms." The Kursk adventure is from the same opera; there will be no order to withdraw troops, despite the heavy losses.

The Ukrainian Armed Forces have no reserves for a counteroffensive, which the Kyiv authorities periodically declare. As recent events have shown, all that the Ukrainian army is capable of is containing the Russian offensive. If the Russian Armed Forces had doubled their forces, the collapse of the front would have been inevitable. Now the Ukrainian Armed Forces are still managing to contain the offensive, but there is no longer talk of a counteroffensive. It is possible that some offensive actions were still planned, but after the introduction of troops into the Kursk region, they can be forgotten. This direction is eating up all the reserves, but the authorities will continue to throw them there, because “it is necessary” for the sake of image.



The Ukrainian Armed Forces have no reserves for a major counteroffensive in 2025, and there is not enough equipment even to defend Donbass. Bankova constantly demands offensive actions from Syrsky, but the Kursk operation completely destroyed the Ukrainian Armed Forces' capabilities for major campaigns.

— reports the Resident channel.

Nevertheless, Zelensky is trying to convince his allies that Ukraine is still capable of fighting Russia and even supposedly defeating it. Therefore, the fighting in the Kursk region will continue despite the heavy losses. The political component in Ukraine has long been higher than military strategy.
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  1. +5
    8 October 2024 20: 50
    If he admits that he is not capable of attacking, they will simply stop feeding him... request
    So if you can't, say that you really want to, but right now there are some difficulties. You literally need a little more money, a little more weapons, a little more of something... And then everything will be right away. good It is enough to remember the counter-offensive...
    1. +4
      8 October 2024 21: 09
      A little bit?!
      They only know how to do a lot and not ask but demand.
      1. +3
        8 October 2024 21: 38
        Well, appetite comes with eating. When you always do everything for the one who asks, he starts to think that you could have done more... And even gets offended.
  2. +20
    8 October 2024 20: 51
    The Ukrainian Armed Forces do not have reserves for a counteroffensive, which the Kyiv authorities periodically announce. As recent events have shown, all that the Ukrainian army is capable of is containing the Russian offensive.

    We've heard this somewhere before. And then Kursk region happened.
    Let's stop bragging. Let's pay more attention to the situation. It's better to know how many more Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers are being trained in NATO and when they will be ready to conduct combat operations.
    When the number of soldiers in 404 is less than our troops participating in the SVO, then we can relax a little.
    In the meantime, maximum attention and saving of personal resources.
    1. +1
      8 October 2024 21: 04
      Quote: B-15
      When the number of soldiers in 404 is less than our troops participating in the SVO, then we can relax a little.

      The Poles and the Tribalts will be harnessed right there.
      1. +1
        9 October 2024 07: 46
        there are only a few Balts, the rest are migrants, and the Poles will go and fight, yeah
        1. 0
          9 October 2024 09: 32
          Quote: Nastia Makarova
          the Balts are only a tiny number

          Well, what's the difference? Mercenaries come from Latin America, for example. They argue that such actions are not prosecuted by their own governments, nor by the US, which can kidnap unwanted people there. You can search for personnel all over the world, if you have the money. sad
          1. +1
            9 October 2024 10: 57
            there are not so many mercenaries, they are more for special tasks and not for military combat
            1. 0
              9 October 2024 11: 19
              Quote: Nastia Makarova
              they are more for special tasks

              Well, for the crowd they have TRO. Busified men of a respectable age and there are still reserves for busification. sad
    2. 0
      8 October 2024 22: 47
      The Ukrainian Armed Forces do not have reserves for a counteroffensive, which the Kyiv authorities periodically announce.

      I wonder who made such a conclusion. There are some forces and in the near future they are capable of presenting 5-7 fresh brigades.
      1. -1
        8 October 2024 23: 15
        Quote: frruc
        There are some forces and in the near future they are able to present 5-7 fresh brigades.
        This is a drop in the ocean. 7 brigades are only 30 thousand people. That's about how many were lost during the Kursk adventure and less than during the defense of Bakhmut, when it was stormed by "Wagenr"
        1. -5
          9 October 2024 00: 34
          Quote from: topol717
          7 brigades is only 30 thousand people.

          Are you sure that our troops will be able to withstand the blow if these 7 brigades go on the offensive tomorrow?
        2. -2
          9 October 2024 09: 21
          topol717
          This is a drop in the ocean. 7 brigades is only 30 thousand people.

          Yes, it is about 30-40 thousand. I indicated that it is in soon, this is not enough for serious offensive operations.
          1. +2
            9 October 2024 09: 41
            Quote: frruc
            in the near future, this is not enough for serious offensive operations

            Here you can't really guess. That's true, of course, such a number is clearly insufficient. But at Kursk even the forces of 4 brigades were enough for a significant breakthrough. Because our reserves there were suddenly withdrawn to Volchansk.

            So in a normal situation, of course, there are very few such forces, but if a similar situation is created somewhere else, then such forces may turn out to be excessive. So in general, I don't know, it doesn't even depend on the Ukrainian Nazis anymore sad
    3. -4
      9 October 2024 01: 36
      Very reasonable post B15. We need to see facts, not slogans.
  3. +6
    8 October 2024 20: 53
    We'll see. Don't rely on xoxl's mantras about how bad everything is for them. When everything is really bad for them, they will say that everything is great for them.
  4. -4
    8 October 2024 21: 01
    If the Russian Armed Forces had increased their forces twofold, then the collapse of the front would have been inevitable.

    But this is a good question, why aren’t we increasing it?
    1. +2
      8 October 2024 21: 32
      75 Sergey hi, your suggestions? Another wave? They recruit where they can and as much as they can, but whether the economy will be able to handle another wave of mobilization is a question, and apparently not, otherwise they would have done it long ago.
      1. 0
        8 October 2024 21: 40
        There are contract soldiers and there are mobilization units.
        Now Moscow is being renovated as if it is the last time they are doing it, billions are spent on night lighting of the buildings of the Russian Administrations (you can also look at the expenses), but maybe this money should be directed towards defense?

        I think that a protracted conflict will not benefit anyone.
        1. +2
          8 October 2024 21: 43
          75Sergey, the issue is not even about money but about people, we have specific problems with demography (unfortunately) during mobilization they will take away the most efficient and mid-level specialists, who will replace them?!
          1. -2
            8 October 2024 22: 27
            Let me repeat, a protracted conflict will not benefit anyone.
          2. -4
            8 October 2024 22: 40
            the issue is not even about money but about people, we have specific problems with demography (unfortunately), the mobilization will take away the most efficient and mid-level specialists, who will replace them?!

            I still see no serious attempts to bring the country into shape for wartime, no attempts to fight properly, no attempts to attract allies. That's why it seems to me that all our problems at the front are with the prospect of an endless war.
            1. -4
              9 October 2024 01: 52
              Ivanivanov. The country has been in good shape for a long time. 30% of our budget is spent on work, on the war. That's a lot. For 25, plus 22% to 10 trillion. The National Welfare Fund is being spent at an accelerated rate. In normal times, countries spend only 1-3%. on mo.
              We have no allies. China, India, Brazil - for preserving the territory of the countries.
              The role of little Belarus in its own country is limited only to providing its territory and that's it.. Batka sits quietly in the bushes and shakes his fist.
              Is a general mobilization necessary? But can the country arm, clothe, and provide officers for another 1-2 million soldiers? I'll say it even more simply - do we have that much equipment? War requires specialists, officers, but where can we get them? Three
              Do we organize monthly courses?
              Real inflation is 10-20%.
              Do you go to the shops?
              1. 0
                9 October 2024 06: 00
                Ivanivanov. The country has been in good shape for a long time. 30% of our budget is spent on work, on the war. That's a lot. For 25, plus 22% to 10 trillion. The National Welfare Fund is being spent at an accelerated rate. In normal times, countries spend only 1-3%. on mo.

                This is not enough, we need more money, we need to introduce a military tax. And increasing funding is only a small part of the steps to victory, we need forced distribution of labor resources, and the seizure of civilian enterprises for the production of military products. Only such decisive actions break the backs of the enemies.
                Is a general mobilization necessary? But can the country arm, clothe, and provide officers for another 1-2 million soldiers?

                Maybe rifles and armor protection will be enough. Now an officer is a sergeant after 2 months of training, in the DPR it was like that since the beginning of the war, so what? An officer is good, but their presence is not critically important.
                The role of little Belarus in its own country is limited only to providing its territory and that's it.. Batka sits quietly in the bushes and shakes his fist.

                Of course he does, he doesn't need it, this is a war for the Russian world, not for the Belarusian one. And we ourselves don't benefit from his entry, how can we cover another 1200 km of the front? With 20 thousand Belarusian troops? Increasing the length of the front is beneficial to the one who has more troops, that is, Ukraine.
                I'll say it even more simply - do we have so much equipment? War requires specialists, officers, but where can we get them? Three
                Do we organize monthly courses?

                Here all around there are infantry assaults on landings without armored vehicles, the war has again turned into an infantry war. The lack of armored vehicles in sufficient quantities is undoubtedly bad, but not critical. As for officers, I have already answered that courses have been organized for a long time, only not 3 months, but two.
                Real inflation is 10-20%.
                Do you go to the shops?

                Those who give a shit about the welfare of citizens during the war will get by and live on crackers until it's over. First the needs of the war and the military, then everything else. I don't understand why they suddenly decided here that while some people are dying fighting, the rest should live as they did, not noticing anything, as if it didn't concern them.
                1. -3
                  9 October 2024 07: 44
                  Ludeman, I sincerely respect your patriotic feelings as a person who cares about his country.
                  I hear the voice of the junior commander.
                  War, alas, is a cold, hard calculation. Calculation of forces, means, reserves, all resources, precise planning of all operations, the most effective use of the capabilities of all types of troops.
                  Only an officer can handle such a task. Giving a sergeant stars does not make him more educated or far-sighted.
                  It is physically impossible to double or triple defense spending. For the above reason. There are no such funds. Each country has a limit to its capabilities. The economic power of NATO countries is approximately 20 times greater than that of Russia.
                  Big losses on LBS? Banal realities of war - attackers suffer losses 2 times more than defenders.
                  They write about the villages we have occupied every day.
                  Russia is dying out every year and without its own 600 thousand people. Why.
    2. -2
      8 October 2024 22: 52
      75 Sergey
      Today, 21: 01
      [/ I]
      [/quote].If the Russian Armed Forces had increased their forces twofold, then the collapse of the front would have been inevitable.[Quote]


      But this is a good question, why aren’t we increasing it?[i]


      A logical question when relatives and friends are involved in the military.
      One of the answers is reserves in the required quantity, plus maintaining the tactics of slowly grinding down the enemy from the most motivated, of which there are few since 2022, except for those trained in gay Europe and fine shaving.
      Although the question is debatable, how we will save more lives - by a sudden breakthrough with the collapse of the front or by a slow grinding, which is what we are seeing now.
      The second, in my opinion, important point is saving money, because no one knows how long the goals and objectives of the SVO will be solved together with the country’s exit from the peak of hyperinflation in the post-war period?
      And finally, the third component, political, when, together with allies in BRICS, CSTO, SCO, EAEU, issues of the future world order with a Multipolar world and New centers of power, where there is no dictate of a non-hegemon, are resolved!
      The Anglo-Saxons and all of gay Europe need to be "pushed through" slowly, so that they realize their defeat and deal painful blows to our main evil since the civilization and culture of Rus' - the Anglo-Saxons.
      1. -1
        9 October 2024 00: 27
        Quote: ZovSailor
        Although the question is debatable, how we will save more lives - by a sudden breakthrough with the collapse of the front or by a slow grinding, which is what we are seeing now.

        In your third year, is this still a question for you? Facepalm.
      2. -4
        9 October 2024 02: 10
        The US imposes sanctions in batches on Chinese and Indian banks and companies directly or indirectly involved in trade with us, with our military-industrial complex. These are electronic goods first and foremost. Missiles, drones, communications, radars, air defense systems, aircraft, satellites do not work without it.
        Sanctions mean a ban on entering the world market for goods and services, a ban on bank transfers. In fact, slow death - only the domestic market. No one in BRICS and elsewhere is going to help us. Don't fantasize.
        We can only rely on our own strength. On unity and patriotism. For example, we can find means by reducing the scale of mass theft.
  5. -1
    8 October 2024 21: 07
    Nothing new, nothing unexpected... the skakuas need to be stimulated, otherwise they've stopped vibrating.
  6. +4
    8 October 2024 21: 34
    I wouldn't say so categorically. Kursk as an example. And in general it's better to slightly overestimate than underestimate the enemy.
    1. -4
      8 October 2024 21: 41
      And still, it will not be possible to be ready until the end.
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  8. -1
    8 October 2024 22: 05
    Well, well, well. There were no reserves, but they captured part of the Kursk region, and they continue to pull up reserves and try to attack there. This is another load of bullshit.
    1. -3
      8 October 2024 22: 41
      Yes, for three years the words have been at odds with the real state of affairs, but this does not bother any of the mouthpieces here.
  9. 0
    8 October 2024 22: 07
    Kyiv's statements ... are an attempt to pass off wishful thinking as reality

    Well, in the 32nd month of the war, the Russian side's assessment of Kyiv has not changed
  10. -3
    8 October 2024 22: 24
    "Statements by the Kyiv authorities about possible counter-offensives this or next year are just a "game for the public" by Zelensky, who wants to show his Western allies that Ukraine is supposedly capable of conducting military operations with Russia "on equal terms." The Kursk adventure is from the same opera; there will be no order to withdraw troops, despite the heavy losses."

    This is news, so personalities are not required here.
    But... I suggest in such cases to refer at least to an anonymous source of data/information.
    If the phrase "from a source who declined to be identified, in (the Ministry of Defense/military unit participating in the operation/Government/AP/news agency, ...) appears, such information will be more trusted. Already because there will be a reference to the source of the information.
  11. +2
    8 October 2024 22: 33
    Bankova constantly demands offensive actions from Syrsky, but the Kursk operation completely destroyed the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ capabilities for large-scale campaigns.

    In my opinion, this is already our desire to put on a good face in the face of an obvious failure.
  12. -3
    9 October 2024 00: 54
    You don't understand anything. The mobilization resource is huge. The West supplies equipment regularly. Come 2025, the Ukrainians will go on a counteroffensive!
    - half of the commentators on the site
  13. +1
    9 October 2024 01: 24
    I wouldn't relax. You never know. They'll send the equipment. They'll train the people.
  14. -3
    9 October 2024 01: 32
    The laws of the military genre require constantly intimidating the enemy, spreading disinformation, fog and fear. Statements are intended for the masses. This is how the human psyche works. Cats on the street also scream loudly when they divide territory.
    Only our blood and fur are flying. It's no laughing matter.
  15. +2
    9 October 2024 13: 46
    The situation is reminiscent of the fall of 2022, when no one believed until Izyum and Kherson were abandoned. Here, a person in the thread in the spring wrote that they would defeat in August 24, and break the back in November - but Kursk happened in August, and Ukraine's mobilization resource allows for offensives, they will still gather meat. There won't be enough money - so they will take it from the frozen assets of the Central Bank. Almost three years of this meat grinder, 40% of the budget will go to military expenses - one can only guess about inflation in 2025.