German official: Scholz ready to start talks with Russian president, but Moscow should not perceive this as weakness

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German official: Scholz ready to start talks with Russian president, but Moscow should not perceive this as weakness

Once again, Olaf Scholz's office declares that the German Chancellor is ready for negotiations with Vladimir Putin. At the same time, according to modern Western tradition, several reservations, nuances and conditions are added at once.

The first and most important condition, which, as the German cabinet official stated, Scholz outlined is as follows:



Our readiness to negotiate should not be perceived by Moscow as weakness on our part.

This is a unique phenomenon in politics from the point of view of psychology. That is, now we are also being told how exactly to perceive certain intentions or actions on the part of the West... Moreover, we must certainly perceive them in the key that is designated by the West itself.

Western press:

Scholz expresses his readiness to negotiate with the Russian president. This is confirmed by an official in the German chancellor's office. But the negotiations must begin on the condition that they have the prospect of progress towards a just and sustainable peace.

Well, at least he didn't add anything about a "rules-based world."

From the material:

Scholz's office warns that Russia should not perceive this initiative as weakness on the part of Europe.

It is added that Germany "will continue to support Ukraine, and at the Ramstein summit on October 12, Ukraine will receive a signal that support will be very strong."

Let us recall that the main expectation from Rammstein - Biden's arrival there - did not come true for the Ukrainian side. The White House stated that the US President would not fly to Germany "because of the hurricane."
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  1. +13
    8 October 2024 20: 23
    but Moscow should not perceive this as weakness
    We are of course afraid, but you should not perceive this as weakness.
    1. +4
      8 October 2024 20: 30
      Judging by the context, they certainly understand that they have lost, but are ready to accept capitulation at any moment. "Well, if you suddenly change your mind...." feel
      1. +4
        8 October 2024 20: 34
        They simply compare others to themselves. If we Slavs agree to a compromise, they immediately begin to think that we have a weakness. Although, as a rule, we try to reduce everyone's losses.
        But the bad thing is that they started talking about negotiations from all over the place.
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      2. +10
        8 October 2024 21: 45
        January
        Today, 20: 30
        [/i]Judging by the context, they certainly understand that they have lost, but are ready to accept capitulation at any moment. "Well, if you suddenly change your mind....

        German official: Scholz ready to start talks with Russian president, but Moscow should not perceive this as weakness[i]


        Let's start with this, did all the Anglo-Saxons, the main frog and sausage maker ask VVP about our goals and objectives in the SVO and their implementation, as well as for the thousands of lives of innocent military and Russian civilians killed by the weapons of the Ghanaians, Anglo-Saxons, frogs, all of gay Europe, the country of hara-kiri and others, the required contributions to the victims of fascism and Nazism, raised by all of NATO and their wild geese?
        Where were all the hypocritical and cynical advocates of the current calls for peace when in 2021 the Russian Federation proposed concluding an Agreement on mutual global security, inseparable from the security and guarantees for each country?
        The winner - the Russian Federation - will dictate the terms after all the goals and objectives of the SVO have been fulfilled; the unconditional surrender of Banderastat with all of NATO is not necessary; the guarantors of national security for the Russian Federation are the allies: North Korea, China, Syria, Belarus, Iran.
        The International Tribunal, at the initiative of the Russian Federation and its allies through the international platforms of BRICS, CSTO, SCO, and the EAEU, must bring to justice, try and punish all persons involved in crimes against peace, war crimes, and crimes against humanity in accordance with UN definitions.
        After the Victory of the Russian Federation, the instigators of all wars - the Anglo-Saxons and their accomplices in the person of liverwurst, the frogman initiate an appeal to the Russian Federation for possible negotiations.
        1. +4
          8 October 2024 21: 48
          You responded powerfully to the German cabinet official. good
          He would be put to shame. Let's hope he reads VO too.
          1. +3
            8 October 2024 21: 56
            January
            Today, 21: 48
            [/i]You responded powerfully to the German cabinet official. good
            He would be put to shame. Let's hope he reads it too.[i]


            Thanks. I am ready to stand up for the people, the Fatherland and the Faith and challenge everyone to a duel, starting from the mattress, the finely shaven, the frog.
            Sword, musket, gunpowder and cartridges at the ready.
            The main thing is that the other side doesn’t screw up before the duel.
            1. 0
              9 October 2024 05: 59
              Quote: ZovSailor
              Sword, musket, gunpowder and cartridges at the ready.
              The main thing is that the other side doesn’t screw up before the duel.

              hi
              Dear colleague, with all due respect. It is not good to play at being noble with these ghouls, the bastards will cheat. They understand perfectly well that they are five minutes away from a direct conflict with Russia, that is why they started to dodge with their butts. The Supreme Commander clearly said that from 31.12.2024, gas transit through the conscious will cease. The conscious also said that there will be no transit. We were tied hand and foot by the agreement with the EU on gas transit through the conscious. So far, they have used it very successfully.
      3. 0
        9 October 2024 05: 48
        hi
        Yeah, I read it myself and I’m surprised. Do they have an institute for noble maidens there? laughing "Herr Oberst, ich bin bereit, mit Ihnen Tango zu tanzen, aber treten Sie Ihnen nicht auf die Füße."
    2. +3
      8 October 2024 20: 51
      They don't run, they retreat tactically.
    3. 0
      8 October 2024 20: 57
      German official: Scholz ready to start talks with Russian president, but Moscow should not perceive this as weakness

      What, like FORCE? belay
    4. 0
      8 October 2024 21: 02
      Quote: _Ugene_
      but Moscow should not perceive this as weakness
      We are of course afraid, but you should not perceive this as weakness.

      Who's stopping him from talking to the Kremlin's technical workers? They're weak, they won't accept him... maybe.
    5. 0
      8 October 2024 23: 12
      _Ugene_
      Today, 20: 23
      [/ I]
      [/quote]but Moscow shouldn't perceive this as weakness[Quote]


      We are of course afraid, but you should not perceive this as weakness[i]


      I am sure that the General Staff and Andrei Removich heard the request and their subordinates, as 80 years ago, will answer with dignity and clearly all the questions raised by the sausage maker, while in Banderashtat, but later, if necessary, we can repeat 1941-1945.
      And the Kremlin has no time to distract itself, because it's a busy time: autumn - harvest, birthdays, sporting events, international meetings, conferences, there's no free time for get-togethers at all, besides, where have they been for more than 2 years, and they've already forgotten in the Russian Federation who is who? Who is Who?
    6. 0
      9 October 2024 06: 21
      Quote: _Ugene_
      We are of course afraid, but you should not perceive this as weakness.

      What do they have to fear? The end of some Ukraine? request
  2. 0
    8 October 2024 20: 26
    The White House said that the US President will not fly to Germany.because of the hurricane».

    That's how it is, the hurricane is our main agent there. laughing lol lol
  3. +1
    8 October 2024 20: 30
    How else can one perceive this?
    "Hitler would have liked to ask Stalin, but he could have seen it as weakness."
    Scholz is a clown, e.p.t.!
  4. +4
    8 October 2024 20: 35
    Consent is a product of complete non-resistance of the parties.(c)
    Will Putin find time to talk?
  5. +13
    8 October 2024 20: 37
    What does the war with the Bandar-logs and this "liver sausage" have to do with it?
    Does he decide anything? Scholz is an ordinary executor of the will of the "deep state" of the Americans, and, in general, the West.
    "Negotiations" are conducted by our Armed Forces and, by and large, the result depends only on the success of the troops, but not on Scholze-macaroni and other lamb baerboks.
    1. +1
      8 October 2024 20: 47
      Now you can call them all livers. That's the whole point of the EU.
    2. -2
      8 October 2024 20: 52
      Quote: Alekseev
      Does he decide anything? Scholz is an ordinary executor of the will of the "deep state" of the Americans, and, in general, the West.

      Exactly! Let them first annul the Chancellor Act, elect a Chancellor democratically, and then this truly German Chancellor will be able to say something intelligible on behalf of the German people.
  6. +7
    8 October 2024 20: 38
    Lavrov has already told the liverwurst a hundred times: If you want negotiations, do something good so that we notice this desire for negotiations. Let Anykalenka come to Moscow later - we'll have a chat, we need to prepare for negotiations in advance and not chatter on every corner about what we talk about in the quiet of our offices! And if everything goes as we planned, then our President will deign to sign the agreement. And the agreement should not only be about Ukraine. Sprechen sie Deutsch? Ya, Ya abernatürlich! Hende Hoch. Put on your diapers in advance so that we don't see your weakness.bully
    1. +7
      8 October 2024 20: 53
      Yes, I'll throw in some information: on the container ship that got in the way of our Iskander M in the port of Yuzhny, one Ukrainian died from the international crew and five foreigners were injured. There are no screams about this in the West. And was that even possible? good I found it from the Dutch before they figured out where I was from. Then that was it, they started demanding money - for a free press.
      1. +3
        8 October 2024 21: 01
        Iskander's pinpoint precision. Ukrop was reset, and foreigners were "warned"))
        1. +5
          8 October 2024 21: 04
          And who will most likely count these Romanians? From Sulina (Romania) small ships are wandering in droves to Ukraine. As far as I know, 30% are "grave" to the contract.
  7. +6
    8 October 2024 20: 39
    Nicht mal die Deutschen, okay außer ca. 11% nehmen den Kriegskanzler, Panzerkanzler Scholz ernst!
    Warum soll Putin den Panzerkanzler Scholz ernst nehmen.
    Die meisten deutschen lachen über Scholz, Putin sollte auch über ihn lachen!
    1. -2
      8 October 2024 20: 52
      Hitler gave you automatic machines.
  8. +2
    8 October 2024 20: 41
    Does this Scholz have anything to say?
    1. +2
      8 October 2024 21: 03
      Will offer territories that are now under Russia's control in exchange for the outskirts' membership in NATO. There are rumors that the author of such a proposal is Germany.
      1. 0
        8 October 2024 22: 32
        Wenn Scholz kommt dann soll ihn ein Bürgermeister aus einen Dorf in Sibirern mit einen Trabant oder einen Wartburg (DDR Auto) abholen! Letzte Woche hat Scholz die Deutschen im Osten von Deutschland (DDR) beleidigt!
        Außerdem hat Scholz die Diplomatie von einen Mann aus der ehemaligen DDR abgeschaut.
        Der Mann hat sich mit den russischen Botschafter in Deutschland getroffen!
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlspgczQnFg
        Sehr viele Menschen in Deutschland waren sehr erfreut!
        Und wenn Scholz kommt dann auch mit den Untersuchungsbericht Nordstream 2
  9. +3
    8 October 2024 20: 43
    The government's incoherence, the decline of the economy, the outflow or closure of large industries, impotence in investigating sabotage at "SP", problems in the army and the military-industrial complex, the decline in the party's popularity, etc. should be perceived as weakness! And the willingness to talk to VVP is no longer weakness, but despair!
  10. +3
    8 October 2024 20: 45
    There is nothing to talk about with Scholz. But it seems he is a little nervous in the tailbone area. Merkel was being led around by a rope, but she always got off beautifully. Now Germany's opinion can be ignored.
  11. +1
    8 October 2024 20: 49
    And what can the liverpool offer that would be interesting to the VVP?
  12. +4
    8 October 2024 20: 57
    Baerbok is also bow-legged... How could she work as a prostitute with such legs?.. At the three train stations, perhaps..
  13. +3
    8 October 2024 21: 02
    German official: Scholz ready to start talks with Russian president, but Moscow should not perceive this as weakness

    What can you negotiate about with sausage?
    Any day now he'll get a kick in the ass from the chancellor's post. So we'll have to come to an agreement with the new one.
    Although "no matter how the monkeys sat down, they were all good enough to be musicians."
    Now there is practically no one to negotiate with from the Westerners, all the agreements are flushed down the toilet anyway. Not only the spirit of the Treaty is not observed, but even the letters, as soon as the Treaty seems no longer necessary to them. They threw out everything that was agreed upon since the Union - missile defense, the New START, Open Skies, the OSCE and many, many others. sad
    1. 0
      8 October 2024 21: 44
      That's why the negotiators are pushing him, because he'll soon run away. And then they'll throw up their hands and say, "Well, we're okay." Ask about the liver.
  14. +1
    8 October 2024 21: 05
    Maybe they should go to a farm to catch butterflies? Or study to become an artist?
  15. 0
    8 October 2024 21: 07
    Our readiness to negotiate should not be perceived by Moscow as weakness on our part.

    Let Zelya sign the capitulation and we will consider that they "won" laughing
  16. +2
    8 October 2024 21: 08
    Scholz expresses readiness for negotiations with the Russian President.
    . Simple question... why the hell do we need this?
    1. +2
      8 October 2024 23: 32
      Victor, do you remember, there was a similar situation! The EU accession was promised. In the long term. And now almost every month Poroshenko sent dispatches ---- we are ready now! We already agree IMMEDIATELY! laughing Now Scholz stands with his hand outstretched and imagines something
      1. +1
        9 October 2024 07: 10
        The Skakuas need to be stimulated... and the Kukuev choppers, tiles and so on, with all their guts.
        1. 0
          9 October 2024 07: 54
          Have a nice day! Victor! The main thing is that Scholz and Zelibov have the same thoughts --- that as a result of the negotiations Russia will completely abandon its goals and achievements. (Unfortunately, our negotiators are comparatively
          the recent past gave a reason for this. It's a shame)
          1. +1
            9 October 2024 09: 36
            Negotiations are usually bargaining.
            The art of compromise was not invented yesterday, but it is important from what position you speak, what goals you have and do you have the strength and ability to defend them!?
            For rotten fixed matches something completely different is needed...
            Let's go in and see what they're talking about, who's on the horse and who's on the shield.
            1. +2
              9 October 2024 09: 40
              Compromise should not be humiliating on any point for a country like the Russian Federation. Remember how it was with the USSR? We were told that we were in the European family and the open world, and they immediately said that the USSR lost.
              1. +1
                9 October 2024 09: 44
                Who knows what will happen and how???
                The desires of the masses are one thing, the desires of the elite may turn out to be something completely different...
                In general, it will be another circus, in which we are spectators, or at worst, extras.
                That's how it is now, unfortunately.
    2. 0
      9 October 2024 06: 24
      Quote: rocket757
      Scholz expresses readiness for negotiations with the Russian President.
      . Simple question... why the hell do we need this?

      The answer to your question depends on who you mean by "us".
      1. 0
        9 October 2024 07: 09
        It's simple...we are us, and they are them wink
        1. 0
          10 October 2024 00: 42
          Quote: rocket757
          It's simple...we are us, and they are them wink

          Is Abramovich "us" or "they"?
          1. 0
            10 October 2024 05: 58
            Quote from tsvetahaki
            Quote: rocket757
            It's simple...we are us, and they are them wink

            Is Abramovich "us" or "they"?

            And who is it?
  17. +2
    8 October 2024 21: 13
    Scholz should agree on only one thing, to replace the gallows with a life sentence. It is difficult to come up with a punishment for all the crimes against humanity. And especially who gave him the right to talk about peace.
  18. +4
    8 October 2024 21: 48
    Yeah, from the series: we defeated the Russians, stopping them at the borders of Poland and Hungary, they capitulated, refusing to expand to Portugal.
  19. -1
    8 October 2024 21: 54
    the worst thing is that our, uh, how should I call them... will agree.
  20. 0
    8 October 2024 22: 14
    What are they talking about? Moscow has never considered Scholz a force, even when he wasn't planning to negotiate. For Moscow, he was always a weakling. So why should he be perceived differently now? laughing
  21. +1
    8 October 2024 22: 27
    Negotiations with "sausage"? No, even in Rus' they don't drink that much;)
  22. 0
    8 October 2024 22: 31
    too many conditions from the dying gayrope
    1. 0
      9 October 2024 13: 13
      It is fading, but where to put the show-off? Have you never seen overripe show-offs? That's how it is in politics. They are absolutely sure that, like 25 years ago, we should look into their mouths.
  23. +1
    8 October 2024 22: 58
    In short, here's a liver sausage, but you have to consider it a pork chop, otherwise the conversation won't work)))
  24. +1
    8 October 2024 23: 11
    So, we need to wait.
  25. 0
    9 October 2024 01: 47
    It's strange, the German media are indignantly buzzing that Russia refused to talk to Scholz on the phone. Ours are not reporting anything on this topic. What is really going on?
  26. +2
    9 October 2024 03: 23
    What can you negotiate with a rotten liverwurst that has ruined the German economy?
  27. +1
    9 October 2024 03: 47
    This is similar to Scholz, when adults are going fishing, and a boy jumps up and says: "Take me too, take me too!"... And the men are like: "Grow up, son, otherwise how can we take you fishing?! You don't even drink yet, much less go out with women..."
  28. 0
    9 October 2024 05: 08
    The dogs have brought their daughters into one wicket to receive preferences for themselves, and here they are again. They are probably dreaming about further free supplies of resources, they can’t support the Banderas with their own money, we don’t have enough of our own, but we won’t give up our money, we’ll pile on sanctions. That’s the only way to understand them. Go to hell and board up the window into your garden, it smells of rot from there.
  29. +1
    9 October 2024 06: 02
    Scholz's willingness to negotiate is not weakness, of course, but merely an admission that Germany is a "participant in the conflict."
  30. +1
    9 October 2024 07: 16
    Ready for negotiations. There are no other options on the Internet.
  31. -1
    9 October 2024 07: 37
    As they said yesterday on the program "333", at the moment negotiations are in full swing.
  32. 0
    9 October 2024 07: 37
    The Germans are kissing the Americans' asses, they are run by a gynecologist, they are ruining industry in the name of the master, they ate up the undermining of the SP, don't take this as weakness, it is strength. Only a strong country can scoop up shit with its ass held high and be proud of it.
  33. 0
    9 October 2024 07: 40
    Scholz's office warns that Russia should not perceive this initiative as weakness on the part of Europe.
    - we will decide for ourselves what and how to perceive, and let him observe his own conditions based on the "rules", and do not let him into Russia until the flows are restored, and until the flows are restored, do not give him a visa to the Russian Federation!
  34. 0
    9 October 2024 07: 56
    Whatever Scholz (and any German) says, what power will his words and agreements have?!
    What can Scholz decide?!
  35. 0
    9 October 2024 12: 43
    If someone goes to negotiations to defend the interests of their state and people, is that weakness?
    But worshiping the USA - that's weakness!
  36. 0
    9 October 2024 12: 56
    When Germany was united, wasn't it a sign of weakness for the Germans? Why are the Germans circling like jackals? Why are they walking with their heads bowed and down?
  37. 0
    9 October 2024 17: 10
    And *(why) are these negotiations with Scholz needed, especially on Ukraine. If the "liver sausage" comes to discuss the resumption of gas supplies to Germany, then he will have to compensate for the losses from the blowing up of gas pipelines, lost profits and a complete refusal to support Ukraine in any way. Then Russia can resume gas supplies. Otherwise, he goes to a well-known address...
  38. 0
    9 October 2024 18: 46
    This begs the question...
    How does the West perceive Russia’s readiness for negotiations?
    It turns out that for two and a half years we have been showing our weakness by declaring our readiness for negotiations? what
    That's where the dog was buried... wassat