Anti-tank potential and post-war service of self-propelled artillery units SU-100

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Anti-tank potential and post-war service of self-propelled artillery units SU-100

The best Soviet fighter tanks created during the Great Patriotic War was a self-propelled artillery SU-100 installation. Unfortunately, the production of this vehicle began too late, and it did not have a noticeable impact on the course of military operations on the Soviet-German front.

Although the vehicle was generally very good and had balanced characteristics, at first it had a number of shortcomings associated with the hasty launch into serial production. The main "teething problems" of the PT SAU SU-100 were cured in peacetime. Thanks to the successful combination of high modernization potential, high combat and service-operational characteristics, the life and combat career of combat vehicles of this type lasted a long time, and in addition to the Soviet Army, it was in service in more than 20 countries during the Cold War. In some countries, the SU-100 is still listed as a combat vehicle or is in storage.



Creation and production of tank destroyer SU-100


The first domestic mass-produced specialized anti-tank self-propelled artillery unit is the SU-85. This machine, built on the basis of the medium tank T-34, was quite consistent with its purpose. But in the second half of the war, the armor of the SU-85 no longer provided the necessary protection, and the 85-mm gun could confidently penetrate the frontal armor of heavy German tanks at a distance of no more than 800 m. In the active army, this self-propelled gun was generally assessed positively, but crews with real experience in destroying enemy armored vehicles wanted to fight on a better protected machine armed with a gun of increased power. There were also complaints about the habitability conditions, observation devices and sights.

The results of firing captured heavy German tanks at the firing range demonstrated that in order to confidently penetrate the Tiger's frontal armor at a distance of more than 1000 m, the standard 85-mm 53-BR-365 caliber projectile weighing 9,2 kg must leave the barrel with an initial velocity of at least 1050 m/s. The same projectile fired from the barrel of the D-5S-85 gun mounted on the SU-85 had a velocity of 792 m/s. However, it was impossible to accelerate the existing projectile to such a velocity without significantly increasing the barrel length, its strength, and using an increased powder charge. Certain limitations were also imposed by the technological capabilities of our artillery factories. Another way to increase armor penetration could be the mass introduction of sub-caliber projectiles with improved characteristics. But when producing shells with hard-alloy cores, it was impossible to do without scarce metals: cobalt and tungsten, which were chronically lacking for smelting armor steel and manufacturing gun barrels. After analyzing all the factors, military and technical specialists decided to increase armor penetration by increasing the caliber. It was experimentally established that a gun with a caliber of at least 100 mm was required to reliably defeat heavy German tanks.

In mid-1941, a design team led by V.G. Grabin created the 107-mm ZIS-6 tank gun. At a distance of 1000 m, an armor-piercing projectile weighing 17 kg, leaving the barrel at a speed of 830 m/s when hitting at an angle of 60°, penetrated 110 mm of armor. By September 1941, the ZIS-6 gun was ready for serial production, but due to the refusal to produce the KV-3 and KV-4 tanks, this artillery system was not in demand. In terms of armor penetration, the ZIS-6 fully met the requirements for installation on the new tank destroyer, but this gun, like the divisional 107-mm M-60, had separate-case loading, which limited the practical rate of fire.

Having considered all the options, GRAU recommended arming the new anti-tank self-propelled gun with a 100-mm gun using unitary rounds of the 100-mm naval universal gun B-34. The naval system initially had a unitary loading, and the 100-mm projectile accelerated to a higher speed than the 107-mm. The difference between the armor-piercing shells for the B-34 and ZIS-6 was less than two kilograms. However, making a 100-mm tank gun with acceptable weight and size characteristics turned out to be a difficult task, and only in early 1944, under the leadership of F. F. Petrov, based on the naval anti-aircraft gun D-10, the 100-mm gun D-10S was created, which was lighter than its competitors and could be placed on the chassis of the medium tank T-34 without significant changes and unnecessary increase in the weight of the vehicle.

When creating the new self-propelled gun SU-100, Uralmashzavod designers used the developments from the SU-85. The crew of the SU-100 did not change compared to the SU-85, but many significant improvements were made, of which the most externally noticeable was the commander's cupola, which had a hatch and protruded beyond the outlines of the armored cabin.


Prototype SU-100 and serial SU-85

The SU-100 was equipped with a V-2-34 diesel engine with a capacity of 500 hp, thanks to which the vehicle weighing 31,6 tons could accelerate to 50 km/h on the highway. The speed on a dirt road usually did not exceed 20-25 km/h. The capacity of the internal fuel tanks was 400 liters, which provided the vehicle with a cruising range on the highway of up to 310 km. The cruising range on rough terrain was 140 km.

The thickness of the upper frontal plate and the driver's hatch was 75 mm, with an inclination angle of 50 °, which provided protection from the most common German 75-mm Pak. 40 and Kw.K.40 L / 48 guns. The thickness of the side armor remained the same - 45 mm. The thickness of the gun mantlet is 100 mm. The thickness of the commander's cupola armor was increased to 90 mm. The weakened area was the driver's hatch, which somewhat reduced the armor protection in the frontal projection. Already during the fighting it became clear that in most cases the frontal armor withstood hits from German 75-mm towed guns, 75-mm tank guns installed on the "fours", as well as hits from 50-mm sub-caliber shells. 75mm armor-piercing shells left dents 25-35mm deep, and the cores of 50mm sub-caliber shells got stuck in the frontal armor, having penetrated 50-60mm.


The designers paid special attention to improving visibility, for which purpose a MK-IV periscope device appeared on the commander's hatch flap, and there were also viewing devices along the perimeter of the commander's cupola. A powerful fan provided the extraction of powder gases. The general design of the gun mount was similar to the SU-85, but the slope of the rear sheet of the cabin was abandoned and the left front fuel tank was removed, which increased the volume of the fighting compartment.

The 100 mm gun was mounted in the front plate of the cabin in a cast frame on double trunnions, allowing its aiming in the vertical plane within the range of -3 to +20 ° and in the horizontal ±8 °. When firing direct fire, aiming at the target was carried out using a telescopic hinged sight TSh-19, and from closed positions - using a Hertz panorama and a side level. During testing, a rate of fire of up to 8 rounds / min was obtained. The practical rate of fire of the gun was 4-6 rounds / min. Ammunition compared to the SU-85 was reduced by almost a third and amounted to 33 rounds.

The energy of the D-10S gun was quite sufficient to destroy any German armored vehicles. The BR-412 armor-piercing tracer projectile weighing 15,88 kg had an initial velocity of 897 m/s and at a distance of 1500 m penetrated 115 mm of armor at a normal angle. At a distance of 1000 m, when meeting at a right angle, a 100 mm projectile penetrated a 135 mm armor plate.

During the firing of captured tanks at the proving ground, it was established that the 100 mm cannon penetrates the frontal armor of the Tiger and Panther at a distance of up to 1500 meters. The side armor of the heaviest serial German tanks, which did not exceed 82 mm, as well as the frontal armor of the main mass-produced medium tanks Pz.Kpfw. IV and late self-propelled guns StuG. III/IV, was penetrated from a distance of 2000 meters or more. Certain problems were encountered with overcoming the armor protection of the Pz.Kpfw. VI Ausf. B tank and the small-scale Ferdinand and Jagdtiger self-propelled guns. At the same time, due to the deterioration of the quality of German armor, which, due to the lack of alloying additives, contained an increased percentage of carbon, was hard but brittle, hits by 100-mm shells from a distance of 500-1000 meters led to the formation of cracks, chips and destruction of welds. Thus, the D-10S gun at real combat distances could reliably defeat most German tanks and self-propelled guns when fired from any direction. There are also known cases when 100-mm fragmentation grenades, when firing at a range of up to 4000 m, knocked out German medium tanks Pz.Kpfw. IV. Apparently, we are talking about damage to the chassis during a close explosion of a powerful shell containing 1,46 kg of explosives. However, with a direct hit to the side, the relatively thin 30 mm side armor of the “four” could also be broken through.

Instead of perforated road wheel bandages, solid bandages with greater durability were used. Two smoke grenades were attached to the upper rear plate of the hull. Also on the roof of the cabin, to the right of the panoramic hatch, a cap appeared, on which a new gun stopper was attached in a traveling position.

The SU-100 was accepted into service on July 3, 1944 by GKO Resolution No. 6131. ​​However, the production of self-propelled guns was delayed by a shortage of 100-mm D-10S guns and rounds for them. And in order not to slow down production, a transitional model with an 85-mm D-5S-85A gun, known as the SU-85M, was initially produced. This vehicle was produced from September to November 1944 and was a "hybrid" of the SU-100 chassis and SU-85A armament.

By July 1945, more than 2300 SU-100s had been built, and serial production in the USSR continued until 1948. A total of 3241 vehicles were manufactured at factories in Sverdlovsk and Omsk. Self-propelled guns built in 1946-1948 featured armored vehicle assembly technology, improved weld quality, and a number of technical innovations aimed at increasing reliability.

Combat use of the SU-100 at the final stage of the war


The first batch of 40 SU-100 units was handed over to military acceptance in September 1944.
The SU-100 self-propelled gun successfully passed frontline tests, but deliveries to combat self-propelled artillery regiments had to be postponed for several months due to the lack of mass production of 100-mm armor-piercing shells. Incidentally, the same problem was encountered during the combat use of BS-3 field guns. At first, their ammunition consisted only of unitary rounds with high-explosive fragmentation grenades.


Since the development of the BR-412B armor-piercing projectile in production dragged on until October 1944, the first self-propelled guns were sent to training centers. Only in November were regiments equipped with SU-100s formed and sent to the front. The SAP staffing table was the same as that of regiments with SU-85s. The regiment numbered 318 people and had 21 self-propelled guns (20 vehicles in 5 batteries and 1 self-propelled gun of the regiment commander).


At the end of the year, three self-propelled artillery brigades (SABR) were formed on the basis of separate tank brigades: the 207th Leningrad, 208th Dvinskaya and 209th. Each brigade had 65 SU-100 and 3 SU-76M. The main reasons for the formation of the SABR were the difficulties with the management and organization of supplies for the SAP, the number of which reached two hundred by the end of 1944.

The SU-100 entered combat en masse in January 1945 during the Budapest Offensive. By that time, the Red Army was already sufficiently equipped with anti-tank artillery, new T-34-85 and IS-2 tanks, and highly effective anti-tank self-propelled guns SU-85, ISU-122, and ISU-152. At first, the SU-100 self-propelled guns did not show themselves in any way at the front. In addition, a number of design and manufacturing defects initially hampered the normal operation of the new self-propelled guns. Some vehicles developed cracks in the welded seams of the hull, and parts of the artillery unit were destroyed during firing. Despite the fact that, based on the experience of operating the SU-122 and SU-85, the SU-100 road wheels were reinforced and improvements were made to the suspension design, increased wear of the front rollers was observed. Not only were the bandages destroyed, but cracks were also found in the disks. As a result, it was necessary to simultaneously supply the units with support rollers and develop a reinforced front support roller and balancer for it.

The new self-propelled guns proved themselves on January 11, when up to 100 German tanks, supported by infantry, launched a counterattack. That day, the 1453rd and 1821st SAPs burned 20 enemy tanks. The SU-100s were used most widely during the Balaton Operation on March 6-16, 1945, when they repelled counterattacks by the 6th SS Panzer Army. Three self-propelled artillery brigades and several separate self-propelled artillery regiments took part in the fierce battles. During the operation, the SU-100s played a significant role in repelling German tank attacks and proved themselves to be a highly effective means in the fight against German heavy armored vehicles, including the PzKpfw VI Ausf. B Tiger II heavy tanks. Following the operation, the SU-100s earned extremely high praise.

In the final stages of the war, German tanks rarely appeared on the battlefield, and SU-100 crews mainly used UOF-412 high-explosive fragmentation shells, which were significantly superior in destructive effect to the 85-mm UO-367 grenade and demonstrated good effectiveness against enemy field fortifications, manpower and lightly armored vehicles. Experiments showed that when a 100-mm UOF-412 exploded, about 500 large fragments were formed, which hit infantry lying down at a distance of 22 m along the front and 9 m in depth. Full-length targets were hit at a distance of 31 m along the front and 13 m in depth. The self-propelled gun, firing high-explosive fragmentation shells weighing 15,6 kg containing 1,46 kg of TNT, was a fairly powerful means of destroying field fortifications during offensive operations, having an advantage over the T-34-85 medium tanks and the SU-85 self-propelled guns.

Along with high anti-tank qualities, the ability of 100-mm guns to effectively destroy field fortifications and destroy manpower, it turned out that the SU-100 was more vulnerable to infantry anti-tank weapons than tanks. This was due to the fact that self-propelled guns initially did not have machine gun armament, and aiming the gun at close targets required turning the hull. Due to the fact that the barrel length of the D-10S gun exceeded 5 meters, maneuvering in rough wooded terrain and in the city was difficult. In order to reduce losses from infantry armed with panzerfausts, some of the vehicles were additionally equipped with light machine guns. When conducting combat operations in populated areas, it was recommended not to introduce the SU-100 into them if possible, and to use the ISU-152 and tanks to destroy fortifications within the city limits.


The SU-100 self-propelled guns suffered almost no losses from fire from counterattacking enemy tanks. The majority of the vehicles destroyed or damaged in offensive actions fell victim to fire from anti-tank and anti-aircraft guns set to direct fire, and also were blown up by mines. After the start of the Berlin Operation, the self-propelled guns took part in it. In urban combat, the self-propelled guns were attached to separate rifle units and subdivisions to reinforce them. If on the approaches to Berlin the percentage of irreparably destroyed vehicles was not large, and the majority of damaged SU-100s were returned to service, then after the entry of Soviet troops into the city, irreparable losses increased, and many vehicles burned as a result of being hit by cumulative grenades. Thus, in the 2nd Guards Tank Army as of the beginning of April there were 46 SU-100. From 16 to 21 April, 5 SU-100s were lost. By the end of the Berlin operation, the 2nd Guards Tank Army had irretrievably lost another 7 SU-100s, including 5 vehicles directly in the city.

Post-war production and modernization of the SU-100, as well as service in the Soviet Army and abroad


In the USSR, after the war, the SU-100 was not produced for long, which can be explained by the establishment of serial production of T-54 tanks, which were armed with a 100-mm D-10T cannon and were superior to self-propelled guns in terms of protection.

However, given that in the first post-war decade the Soviet leadership was not ready to supply T-54s abroad, and the power of the T-34-85 gun was not enough to reliably penetrate the armor of new American and British tanks, the need for the SU-100 in the armies of the Eastern Bloc remained.

In order to increase the anti-tank potential of the Warsaw Pact countries' armed forces and deliveries to "developing countries", licensed production of the SU-100 under the name SD-100 was established first in Prague and then at the Czechoslovakian enterprise ZJVS in Martin. At the SMZ locomotive plant (one of the Škoda concern's plants, located in Dubnice nad Váhom), they also made a licensed D-10S, which received the Czechoslovakian designation 100 mm SHK vz.44 S. The development of SU-100 production in Czechoslovakia was facilitated by the fact that since 1951, this country had been producing T-34-85 medium tanks.


The Czechoslovakian self-propelled gun had a number of external features that allowed it to be visually distinguished from the SU-100 built in the USSR. Also, the SD-100 hull stood out with more accurate welds and a virtually ideal surface of the armor plates. The external finish did not affect the combat qualities of the vehicles, but demonstrated the level of production culture.

A total of 1953 SD-1956s were built in Czechoslovakia between 770 and 100. Of this number, the Czechoslovak army received 460 units, the rest were delivered to Cuba, Syria and Egypt. The Cuban army used the self-propelled guns very effectively in repelling the counter-revolutionary invasion in the Bay of Pigs. Several self-propelled guns of this type have been installed in Cuban cities as monuments.


Syrian and Egyptian self-propelled guns took part in armed conflicts in 1956, 1967 and 1973. The Arabs abandoned quite a few serviceable SD-100s along with other armored vehicles on the battlefield.


In the tank regiments of the Czechoslovak People's Army, the share of SD-100s was one third of the total number of vehicles until 1960. T-34-85 tanks replaced by self-propelled guns were sent to storage. In the 1960s, after the start of T-54 deliveries, SD-100s began to go to storage bases and were actively offered to foreign buyers. Nevertheless, the active service of the SD-100 in Czechoslovakia continued until the end of the 1970s, these vehicles were in reserve until the mid-1990s.

The situation with the SU-100 was approximately the same in the Soviet Army. According to reference data, in November 1947, there were 2628 SPGs with a 100-mm gun in service.


Although the SU-100 had a number of shortcomings, was inferior to the T-54/55 tanks in terms of protection and had no advantages over them in terms of armament, the self-propelled guns were actively used until the early 1980s, and were finally written off in Russia in the early 1990s. Apparently, the last SU-100s in combat units were used in the Far East, which was due to the better cross-country ability of these machines on soft soils compared to the T-54, T-55 and T-62, a relatively weak tank fleet that China had. The SU-100s were also used during the introduction of a "limited contingent" into Afghanistan.

Despite the fact that the basic chassis of the SU-100 was outdated, and from the point of view of fire safety and crew survivability in the event of combat damage, the placement of fuel tanks in the fighting compartment was not optimal, the self-propelled guns were modernized and overhauled in the 1950s-1970s.

It took a long time to cope with the low durability of the front rollers. Despite the strengthening of the suspension springs, it was not possible to ensure the required guaranteed mileage of 3000 km. As of 1948, the guaranteed mileage of the SU-100 was 1000 km. In the post-war period, this problem was solved by installing chassis parts from the T-44M tank.

In the late 1950s and early 1960s, the MK-IV commander's observation device was replaced by the TPKU-2 binocular commander's panorama with coordinate and rangefinder scales, which had a five-fold increase and a field of view of 7,5° along the horizon, allowing targets to be identified at a distance of up to 3 km. During the modernization, the SU-100 was equipped with passive night vision devices BVN and TVN-2, which worked together with the FG-10 headlight equipped with an IR filter and the R-113 VHF radio station.

In the mid-1950s, a more effective armor-piercing projectile, the UBR-412D, was added to the ammunition set. This projectile weighs 15,88 kg and has an initial velocity of 887 m/s. At a distance of 1000 m, the UBR-412D is capable of penetrating 190 mm of armor at a normal angle. However, this was not enough to reliably counter the British Chieftain tanks, as well as the American M-48A2 and M-60. The 3BM8 subcaliber projectile weighing 5,7 kg, leaving the gun barrel at a velocity of 1415 m/s, could penetrate the armor of the M-48A2 from any direction, as well as the turrets of the Chieftain and M-60, but did not penetrate the upper frontal armor of these tanks. The cumulative non-rotating tracer projectile 3BK5 weighed 25,5 kg and had an initial velocity of 900 m/s at an angle of 60° from the normal at any distance, overcame homogeneous armor 180 mm thick, which made it possible to destroy all existing Western tanks at that time. The standard ammunition load of the modernized SU-100 consisted of 16 high-explosive fragmentation, 10 armor-piercing and 7 cumulative projectiles.


The modernized SU-100s differed externally from the original version in that they had external boxes for tools and accessories, as well as running wheels.

In the late 1970s, the 38th Research Institute of Armored Vehicles in Kubinka developed a radio control system for converting obsolete tanks into mobile targets capable of firing a single blank shot loaded into the gun. Beginning in 1981, the Borisov Tank Repair Plant converted 121 SU-100s into self-propelled targets, which took part in the major exercises "West-81", "West-83", "West-84" and "Autumn-88".

Abroad, in addition to the countries that were part of the Warsaw Pact, the SU-100 was operated in Algeria (until the early 1990s), Albania (until the mid-1990s), Angola (destroyed in combat or written off due to breakdowns in the late 1980s), Bulgaria (until 1993), China (until the early 1980s), the GDR (in storage until unification with the FRG), Hungary (in storage until the early 1990s), Iraq (in storage until 2003), Mongolia (until the late 1980s), Poland (until the mid-1980s), Romania (in storage until 2015), and Yugoslavia (until the late 1990s).

According to reference data, Algeria keeps about 40 SU-100s in reserve, the DPRK may have about a hundred self-propelled guns, Morocco has about two dozen SU-100s, but most likely they are no longer in operation. Until recently, Vietnam had about 80 vehicles, but it is not known whether they are currently in operation.


SU-100 on the street of Sana

As of 2014, there were three dozen SU-100s stored in Yemen. The self-propelled guns gradually deteriorated and stood in hangars, but they were remembered after the start of armed clashes between government forces and the Houthi group. Some of the self-propelled guns were revived and used by both the army and the Shiite rebels. The last time a Yemeni SU-100 was spotted on the move was in 2017.

To be continued ...
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  1. +38
    6 October 2024 06: 28
    It's nice to read a well-written, professional and interesting article, which are becoming rare on VO.
    Thank you Sergey!
    1. +13
      6 October 2024 13: 27
      I join the kind words about the work of the Author!
      After analyzing all the factors, military and technical specialists decided to increase armor penetration by increasing the caliber.

      This is what all participants in the Second World War eventually came to. The most modest were the British, who limited themselves to a 76,2 mm cannon, the Germans installed 88 mm on their serial anti-tank self-propelled guns, the Americans - 90 mm, and we - 100 mm. I will immediately clarify that I was evaluating the anti-tank, not the assault character of the "self-propelled guns".
      1. +9
        6 October 2024 14: 43
        Vladislav, good evening!
        Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
        I join the kind words about the work of the Author!

        Seryozha tries to write impartially and objectively. He is a techie, not a political officer!
        1. +7
          6 October 2024 18: 22
          Dear Olga, I know this very well and respect Sergey for this too! My respects!!!
      2. Alf
        +7
        6 October 2024 20: 10
        Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
        The most modest were the British, who limited themselves to a 76,2 mm cannon,

        This is true, but we should not forget that it was the British 17-pounder that had a sub-caliber projectile with a separating sabot that could really penetrate EVERYTHING, and there were enough of those projectiles.
        1. +4
          6 October 2024 20: 17
          Quote: Alf
          Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
          The most modest were the British, who limited themselves to a 76,2 mm cannon,

          This is true, but we should not forget that it was the British 17-pounder that had a sub-caliber projectile with a separating sabot that could really penetrate EVERYTHING, and there were enough of those projectiles.

          By the way, the British started the war with a 40mm gun in a tank turret, we with 76,2mm, the Germans with 50mm, and the Americans with 37mm!
          1. Alf
            +5
            6 October 2024 20: 20
            Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
            By the way, the British started the war with a 40mm gun in a tank turret, we with 76,2mm, the Germans with 50mm, and the Americans with 37mm!

            Wait a minute, the Germans' anti-tank tank at the beginning of WW2 was the Troika with a 37mm gun.
        2. 0
          6 October 2024 21: 11
          Quote: Alf
          This is true, but we should not forget that it was the British 17-pounder that had a sub-caliber projectile with a separating sabot that could really penetrate EVERYTHING, and there were enough of those projectiles.

          It is also worth remembering the weight of this gun - 3000 kg. The Soviet 76,2 mm ZIS-3 divisional gun and the German 75 mm PAK40 anti-tank gun weighed more than 2 (two) times less: 1200 kg and 1425 kg, respectively. To understand what the armor penetration of this "masterpiece" of the gloomy foggy Albion should be compared with, the weight of the 100 mm BS-3 field gun was 3650 kg, and the weight of the 107 mm M-60 gun was 4000 kg. The German PAK 43 anti-tank gun weighed 4400 kg.
          1. Alf
            +1
            6 October 2024 21: 24
            Quote: DesToeR
            We should also not forget about the weight of this weapon - 3000 kg.

            You can't fool physics; you have to pay for everything.
            Quote: DesToeR
            the weight of the 100 mm BS-3 field gun was 3650 kg,

            But in terms of penetration, the British one turned out to be on the level of the BS-3, so it should be compared with it. On the other hand, with a gun weight of more than 2,5 tons, anyway, you still can’t ride in your hands, be it a 17-pounder, a BS, or a PaK-43.
            1. +1
              6 October 2024 22: 18
              Quote: Alf
              But in terms of penetration, the British one turned out to be at the level of the BS-3, so it should be compared with it.

              We need to compare reality, not tabular data on armor penetration. And the harsh reality for the 17-pounder and its "miraculous" subcaliber was as follows: the number of hits at a distance of 400 yards on a target the size of a tank turret projection was 57%, and at a distance of 800 yards, only 14%. Now imagine a shooter with an SVD in the same conditions. Who will shoot more accurately, a three-ton gun on a carriage or a sniper with a Dragunov rifle? Amazing, right? There is no point in comparing the impact of the HE shells for the 17-pounder and the BS-3.
              1. Alf
                +3
                6 October 2024 22: 23
                Quote: DesToeR
                There is absolutely no point in comparing the effect of the OFS for the 17-pounder and the BS-3.

                Of course, because these are anti-tank guns and shooting at infantry targets is secondary for them.
                Quote: DesToeR
                We need to compare reality, not tabular data on armor penetration.

                Here is the reality.
                "No tests were conducted for maximum armor penetration. Armor penetration was checked by firing at plates of different thicknesses installed at several distances at right angles, as well as at an angle of 30 degrees. It turned out that a 100 mm thick armor sheet was penetrated at a distance of 1800 m, and at an angle of 30 degrees it was penetrated from a kilometer. An armor sheet 90 mm thick was penetrated at a distance of 2 kilometers, and at an angle of 30 degrees - from 1200 meters. Armor 76 mm thick and with an angle of 30 degrees was penetrated from 2200 m. This significantly exceeded the characteristics of the 85 mm S-53 tank gun and turned out to be approximately equal to the armor penetration of the 100 mm BS-3 gun using the standard BR-412 projectile. Of the large-scale guns, only the German 8.8 cm Pak was more powerful. 43/41, but at the same time it was significantly larger and almost 2 times heavier."
                "Tests for accuracy were carried out on a shield located at a distance of 1000 meters. As a result of the tests, it was found that the English anti-tank gun had better accuracy than the Soviet 76-mm anti-aircraft gun model 1938.
                When shooting at a moving target at a distance of 500 meters, there were 5 hits out of 4 shots, and at a distance of 1000 meters – 2.
                1. +1
                  6 October 2024 22: 46
                  Quote: Alf
                  Here is the reality.

                  Is this reality for sub-caliber shells? Really? Or maybe this report is given for regular armor-piercing shells, which arrived at the Gorokhovetsky test site in the second half of 1944? But we are talking about the "miraculous" sub-caliber, which forms our idea of ​​armor penetration in general, and at a distance of 1000 m. And so, yes, excellent data for an anti-tank gun... but only on a mobile armored chassis. You can't drag something like that around with your hands.
                  1. Alf
                    0
                    6 October 2024 22: 53
                    Or maybe this report is given for regular armor battles,

                    Precisely for armor penetration. But even with simple BBS, the penetration was higher than our 85 and approached BS. Even higher with pins.
                    Quote: DesToeR
                    but only on a mobile armored chassis. You can't drag something like that around with your hands.

                    Am I arguing?
  2. +8
    6 October 2024 07: 22
    Excellent article, thank you very much. Really pleased compared to the neighboring one on the thread. Question about the penetration of post-war shells. 1000 m UBR-412D at normal is capable of penetrating 190 mm armor. However, this was not enough to confidently counter the British Chieftain tanks, as well as the American M-48A2 and M-60, and the cumulative one penetrated 180 mm at all distances, which made it possible to hit all existing Western tanks at that time Is it a typo or is it true? Please enlighten me if you know what's going on here. This question does not detract from the merits of the article.
    1. +11
      6 October 2024 07: 46
      Hello!
      Thanks for the comment!
      The thickness of the upper frontal armor plate of the M-60 was 93 mm, which was installed at an angle of 65 °. The thickness of the front of the turret is more than 175 mm. The armor penetration of the UBR-412D directly depended on the distance and angle of impact. The armor penetration of the cumulative 3BK5 (at an angle of impact of 60 ° - 180 mm) did not depend on the range at all and was higher than that of the armor-piercing when hitting at a right angle. It should be understood that in the 1960-1970s, the effective firing range of tank guns was significantly higher than in the VM years.
      1. +4
        6 October 2024 07: 54
        Thank you, now it's clear.
        1. +6
          6 October 2024 07: 56
          Quote: Alex 1970
          Thank you, now it's clear.

          You are welcome! drinks
          1. +4
            6 October 2024 14: 17
            Quote: Bongo
            Thanks, now it’s clear.

            I can't help but join in the praise of the article. Thank you.
      2. +6
        6 October 2024 13: 21
        hi
        Quote: Bongo
        The slope of the aft sheet of the wheelhouse was abandoned and the left front fuel tank was removed, which increased the volume of the fighting compartment.

        ... and reduced the range.
        Did he become something like this?
        On the highway – up to 150 km.
        Over rough terrain – 70 km.
        1. +6
          6 October 2024 14: 45
          Mikhail, hello! You have always been distinguished by your meticulousness in details. It is a pity that you have stopped writing! sad
          1. +7
            6 October 2024 16: 56
            It's a pity that you stopped writing!
            I'm sorry too!!! crying
            Hi, Olya!
            Hi, Misha!
            1. +5
              6 October 2024 19: 40
              Quote: 3x3zsave
              Hi, Misha!

              Priet!
              I write, but only advertising texts and all sorts of little things.
              But now I'm busy with something else.
              Read the answer to Olga )))
          2. +5
            6 October 2024 19: 38
            Quote: zyablik.olga
            It's a pity that you stopped writing!

            hi
            I'm writing again, but at the regional level.
            We have elections coming up soon, and my skills are needed by one of the presidential candidates.
            I have a good command of Russian, and the demand for it has increased recently.
            The translator gives a literal translation, sometimes the text looks poor and does not even correspond to the original.
            I do a literary translation, taking into account the specifics and archaisms. bully
  3. +10
    6 October 2024 08: 03
    Maleshkin's crew in the film "In War as in War", one of the best films about the Great Patriotic War, fought on the SU-100, unlike in the book, where it was the SU-85.
    1. +16
      6 October 2024 08: 09
      Quote: Konnick
      Maleshkin's crew in the film "In War as in War", one of the best films about the Great Patriotic War, fought on the SU-100, unlike in the book, where it was the SU-85.

      By that time, finding a SU-85 on the move would have required heroic efforts. Quite predictably, the filmmakers decided not to bother and used SU-100s - of which there were still quite a few in the troops in the late 1960s.

      And the film, as well as the book, are really cool! Which is not surprising - the author himself fought in a self-propelled gun, and took a lot from his experience.
      1. +7
        6 October 2024 08: 14
        Quite predictably, the film's creators decided not to bother and used the SU-100, of which there were still quite a few in the troops in the late 1960s.


        And they did the right thing, it's much better than the T-34-85 in the Fiery Arc of the "Liberation" epic
        Thank you for the article.
        1. +9
          6 October 2024 08: 15
          Quote: Konnick
          And they did the right thing, it's much better than the T-34-85 in the Fiery Arc of the "Liberation" epic

          There were also T-54s visible in the background.
          1. +7
            6 October 2024 08: 19
            There were also T-54s visible in the background.

            And the Germans with AKs instead of Sturmgewehrs, but that's in the background, and the SU-100 is next to the main characters.
            1. +7
              6 October 2024 11: 48
              And the Germans with AKs instead of Sturmgewehrs
              This even regularly appears in the Polish TV series "Three Poles, a Georgian and a Dog".
              1. Alf
                +2
                6 October 2024 20: 14
                Quote: Aviator_
                And the Germans with AKs instead of Sturmgewehrs
                This even regularly appears in the Polish TV series "Three Poles, a Georgian and a Dog".

                Why not? The Poles came to war in the summer of 43, and when did the Germans get MP-44 in their troops?
      2. Alf
        +3
        6 October 2024 20: 13
        Quote: Bongo
        By that time, finding a SU-85 on the move required heroic efforts.

        Especially if you consider the fact that people were watching a movie, not looking for fleas (no offense!). We are the rivet experts here.
  4. +10
    6 October 2024 08: 32
    Licensed production of the SU-100 under the name SD-100 was established first in Prague and then at the Czechoslovakian enterprise ZJVS in Martin.

    An interesting point is that the full name of the "ZJVS enterprise" is Závody JV Stalina np. This was the name of the plant from 1954 to 1957.
  5. +13
    6 October 2024 08: 46
    Until recently, there were approximately 80 vehicles in Vietnam, but it is not known whether they are currently in use.

    They are used in coastal defense. Below is a photo from coastal defense exercises held in September. The second photo is Vietnamese SU-100s at a storage base.
    1. +13
      6 October 2024 08: 54
      Quote from Frettaskyrandi
      The second photo shows Vietnamese SU-100s at a storage base.

      Apparently, the vehicle with the number 001 is a tractor based on the T-34-85.
  6. +6
    6 October 2024 11: 50
    Good article, respect to the author, I'm waiting for the continuation!
  7. +5
    6 October 2024 15: 31
    An excellent article about the "last of the Mohicans" - a representative of the armored vehicle class that has sunk into oblivion (the Swedes consider the Strv-103 to be a MBT).
    1. Alf
      +5
      6 October 2024 20: 16
      Quote: dzvero
      An excellent article about the "last of the Mohicans" - a representative of the armored vehicle class that has sunk into oblivion (the Swedes consider the Strv-103 to be a MBT).

      Here is the last of the Mohicans.
      1. +2
        6 October 2024 21: 32
        Yes, indeed, the SU-122-54. It was designed at the same time as the T-54, but went into production late... and fell victim to the missile boom. Against the backdrop of 45000 T-54/55, 70 pieces are simply worthless. And since then, the tank base has been used only for self-propelled guns. I wonder if the author will touch on the reasons for the disappearance of this type of armored vehicles.
  8. +5
    6 October 2024 15: 47
    A normal story, and most importantly, literate!
  9. +3
    6 October 2024 16: 54
    I join in expressing gratitude to the author, as always a wonderful article!
  10. +4
    6 October 2024 19: 30
    That day, the forces of the 1453rd and 1821st SAP burned 20 enemy tanks
    ,,, yes, but during that battle the losses were only 1821 SAP, 8 burned, 3 vehicles were destroyed.
  11. +3
    6 October 2024 20: 23
    It was experimentally established that the explosion of a 100 mm UOF-412 produced about 500 large fragments that hit the infantry lying down at a distance of 22 m along the front and 9 m in depth. Full-length targets were hit at a distance of 31 m along the front and 13 m in depth.

    It is interesting that most of the fragments fly apart in a ring rather than a sphere. In this sense, a howitzer or mortar is much more effective against infantry than an anti-tank gun.
  12. +4
    6 October 2024 21: 37
    Quote: Alf
    Quote: Aviator_
    And the Germans with AKs instead of Sturmgewehrs
    This even regularly appears in the Polish TV series "Three Poles, a Georgian and a Dog".

    Why not? The Poles came to war in the summer of 43, and when did the Germans get MP-44 in their troops?

    The war started on June 22?)
    Poles at war since September 1, 1939)
  13. +1
    6 October 2024 21: 49
    Unfortunately, every article describing the SU-100 contains a phrase like this:
    Unfortunately, the production of this vehicle began too late, and it did not have a noticeable impact on the course of military operations on the Soviet-German front.

    Too late compared to what? For example, by the time the SU-100 regiments were formed, the entire industry of Nazi Germany, for a whole year of production (January - December 1944), was able to give the Wehrmacht only 226 units of the Jagdpanther self-propelled gun. This is a direct analogue of our self-propelled gun in terms of characteristics. That is, on average, 19 vehicles per month. In order to form one division (45 Jagdpanthers according to the table of organization), it was necessary to wait two and a half months from the factory. And this does not take into account losses at the front. And in the USSR, only from September to December 1944, 500 units of the SU-100 were produced at UZTM.
    Have you read anywhere about the untimely or insignificant production of the Jagdpanther? No! Every shabby reference book mentions this small-scale self-propelled gun (413 units were produced). Maybe it's time to remove the worn-out memes and labels from domestic weapons. The number of SU-100s produced in the USSR during WWII is comparable to everything the Nazis made: 88mm/L71 in armor and with an engine. And there were also ISU-122s, of which 1944 units were produced in 945, and in 1945 they "added" another 400 units before May 9.
  14. +2
    7 October 2024 05: 51
    Quote: DesToeR
    Unfortunately, every article describing the SU-100 contains a phrase like this:
    Unfortunately, the production of this vehicle began too late, and it did not have a noticeable impact on the course of military operations on the Soviet-German front.

    Too late compared to what? For example, by the time the SU-100 regiments were formed, the entire industry of Nazi Germany, for a whole year of production (January - December 1944), was able to give the Wehrmacht only 226 units of Jagdpanther self-propelled guns. This is a direct analogue of our self-propelled gun in terms of characteristics. That is, an average of 19 vehicles per month. In order to form one division (45 Jagdpanthers according to the organization chart), it was necessary to wait two and a half months from the factory. And this does not take into account losses at the front.

    Probably the bombing by strategic bombers had some effect on the industrial potential of the Reich.
  15. +2
    7 October 2024 10: 42
    Tank loved tanker,
    I took her for a walk in the forest.
    From such a romance
    The whole grove is broken!)
  16. 0
    9 October 2024 23: 33
    The Su-85 and Su-100, unfortunately, were late for their main battle - the Battle of Kursk, where they were needed most....
    Ten artillery regiments of these self-propelled guns, operating from ambushes and fortified areas, could have radically changed the situation, especially on the southern flank of the Kursk Bulge, and saved the lives of tens of thousands of Red Army soldiers, and significantly reduced losses in tanks and artillery...
    In the Battle of Kursk from the USSR
    generally
    ~ 254 killed, captured, missing
    608 wounded, sick
    Lost:
    -153 thousand units of small arms
    -6064 tanks and self-propelled guns
    -5245 guns and mortars