Iranian media: Iran's hypersonic missiles destroyed Israeli missile defense systems Arrow-2 and Arrow-3 for the first time

Arrow-3 of the Israeli army

Iranian media reports first use of hypersonic missiles missiles IRGC by position areas Defense- Israel's missile defense. This indirectly explains the fact that Israel's missile defense turned out to be virtually powerless against a massive Iranian missile attack.

Iranian TV channels report that hypersonic missiles that reached Israel in a matter of minutes knocked out several IDF missile defense systems at once. It is claimed that Iranian "hypersonic" destroyed the Arrow-2 and Arrow-3 systems.

Arrow-3 is a joint development of Israel and the United States of America. The anti-missile uses an inertial navigation system.

According to Israeli sources, several anti-missiles of this system were able to hit Iranian weapons. Whether this is true is difficult to verify at this point, to put it mildly.

Meanwhile, the IDF command says that Iran will be given a "very tough response" tonight. It is assumed that in the coming hours, the Iranian air defense system will already be under significant strain. However, in the case of Iran, military installations in this country are largely dispersed due to Iran's size, which cannot be said about Israel.

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[Orange Bigg]

Respect if the information is confirmed.

[Arzoo]

Well, I'm not sure. But they pushed through the PRO. That's absolutely certain.

[Victor19]

Several hundred missiles can push through any air defense. But the effectiveness of this attack is still unclear. If the missiles are good, like Iskanders, all these hundreds can completely destroy the energy and transport infrastructure of the country.

[Irokez]

Quote: Victor19

But the effectiveness of this attack is still unclear.

The effectiveness is not even in the fact that they hit, but in the fact that the air defense is being zeroed out in terms of the number of anti-missiles. The Jews will not be able to use the air defense for so long.

[Victor19]

The Jews won't be able to use air defense for so long.
This is not Ukraine. They will send as much as necessary to Israel, even to the detriment of America itself

[Irokez]

We'll see what these leaky Patriots cost. On the other hand, each missile costs money, and a lot of it, and in the long run they'll simply run out because their production isn't as fast as it seems. And the missile launchers themselves can be knocked out, and there aren't that many of them even around the world, and some countries simply won't want to hand them over to God's chosen ones because they'll be left with nothing. It's all very interesting.

[Victor19]

Patriots are not valued in Israel. They work well on aircraft. But ballistic targets, cruise missiles are not up to the mark

[Irokez]

Well, in that case it's even simpler and I don't think that Israel is churning out its anti-missiles like sunflower seeds on a conveyor belt. And their production can be shut down (the country is small in area).

[private person]

Well, in that case it’s even simpler and I don’t think that Israel is churning out its anti-missiles like seeds on a conveyor belt.

So Iran cannot replenish its arsenal in an instant; minus 400 missiles is also not a small amount.

[Irokez]

And now the question is - whose military economy is stronger, Iran or Israel, even if they help it? I don't think that Iran will be left alone like we are in Ukraine. I hope there will be some mutual assistance. There is also Iraq nearby, Syria, Lebanon, and even Egypt with the Arabian Arabs. We'll have to see.

[private person]

I don’t think that Iran will be left alone like we are in Ukraine.

Perhaps you are right, but so far none of those you listed have joined in, although they could have supported the attack and put an end to Israel.

[Poplar]

so far none of those you listed have joined in, although they could have supported the attack and put an end to Israel.

It is possible that they did not join only because they had no information about the impending strike. Iran did not warn anyone or coordinate its strike with the actions of potential allies. So it is not yet clear who will support it and how.

[bayard]

If the Iranian missile strike is as effective as they are talking about now, then the number of those willing to take part in the massacre of Israel will increase with each such strike. If Israel launches nuclear strikes as promised, then the missiles with nuclear warheads will fly at it. And then it will really flare up. If 15-20 nuclear warheads are launched at Israel at once, the existence of such a state can be forgotten. If there are fewer nuclear warheads in the first strike, it will fight for a while.
Well, it is hard to even imagine what Israel itself can do with its nuclear potential (according to expert estimates - about 400-500 nuclear warheads). So Iran will also be in trouble. But the Iranian leadership has already changed its location and is ready for such a denouement.
But how prompt was the response to the invasion of Lebanon...

[Poplar]

Iran cannot replenish its arsenal overnight, minus 400 missiles is not a small amount either

Perhaps some of the missiles were dummy missiles, purely to overload the air defense. The telegram contains a photo of unexploded missiles sticking out of the ground. Although this could be just one missile, taken from different angles, that for some reason did not explode. So there is no complete clarity on this issue, but such an option is possible.

[bayard]

This could be a spent stage, and the warhead separates in flight. Just an empty spent casing. Grad engines also fall separately and often stick out of the ground.

[solar]

Features
The Tamir missile (Hebrew: טמי"ר‎)[5][29]

Length - 3 m
Diameter - 160 mm
Weight - 90 kg
Distance - 150 km
The guidance system is active radar[30][31]. The missile reaches its target based on commands received from the radar, which is located on the missile itself.
The cost is from 40 to 80 thousand US dollars and more, depending on the functionality[32].

Israeli air defense uses cheap missiles.

[Ender Dorghut]

Think about many children you can help with medicine, food, drinkable water with just one rocket! How will all these people justify themselves in front of God? What will they be able to argue?

[fsb_buzuk]

This is a missile for the Iron Dome, which does not work according to normal ballistics. Only the Hetzes (essentially this is also an American missile defense system), the American THAAD, and American destroyers with the SM-3 missile work according to it. But the latest modification of the SM-3 already costs 30 million dollars, as the educated TG channels write.

[tsvetahaki]

Quote: Irokez

Israel churns out its anti-missiles like seeds on a conveyor belt.

Israel is making its own anti-missiles in America
Just like the dome is produced in America for free - that is, it is received as part of American aid.
That's how we settled down.

[501 Legion]

then the target should be the factories where air defense systems are produced. then it will be even worse for the Zionists

[sgrabik]

Even America's capabilities are not unlimited; it all depends on the number of missiles needed to supply Israel, and not on the desire to supply them or not.

[Dedok]

that the air defense is being reduced to zero in terms of the number of anti-missiles. The Jews will not be able to use the air defense for so long.

so the mattresses will be delivered by plane in the required quantity... - that's not a problem;
but the problem for Israel is different: were there strikes on the air defense systems themselves and if there were, how effective were they...

[topol717]

Judging by the video, the rockets there are so-so, not much faster than geraniums.
I remember here on VO everyone was praising the Jewish air defense. How it deftly deals with missile attacks. But here is a normal attack and it turns out that this air defense is not so impeccable. I would even say it is crap. Considering the size of it and the flight time of missiles from Iran.

[svarog77]

The Jewish "Iron Dome" showed itself in its full "glory" at the beginning of the conflict, when after 3 days it was necessary to ask an ally to replenish ammunition...

[private person]

But here is a normal attack and it turns out that this air defense is not so flawless.

Probably not a single missile defense system can withstand such a number of attacks; even after repelling the first attack, it takes time to reload.

[gsev]

Quote from: topol717

But here is a normal attack and it turns out that this air defense is not so flawless.

At the moment of the Iranian strike, Israel raised its aircraft and apparently not a single Israeli fighter was damaged in the missile strike. The accuracy of the new Iranian missiles was not high. For example, a missile aimed at the Israeli intelligence headquarters fell 3 km from the target. Some missiles fell in Jordan, and the fuses on some warheads did not work. Israel will probably strike the following targets. The oil terminal on Kharg Island, a gas processing plant and the deep-water port of Bandar Abbas. Although the US may be demanding that Israel strike Hezbollah and the Houthis.

[topol717]

Quote: gsev

At the moment of the Iranian strike, Israel raised its air force and apparently not a single Israeli fighter was damaged in the missile strike.

show me at least one airbase that can simultaneously launch all the planes there. How much time does it take to prepare one plane for takeoff? Or do you think all the planes there are on combat alert?

Quote: gsev

For example, a missile aimed at the Israeli intelligence headquarters fell 3 km from the target.

Did they tell you directly from Tehran that the missile missed by 3 km?

[PavelT]

Russia has a lot of good missiles, the same Iskanders, but they still can’t knock out Ukraine’s energy sector - Putin’s humanism is in the way, as he himself officially said on 11.04.2024: "«In the energy sector, unfortunately, we have recently seen a series of attacks on our energy facilities and have been forced to respond. I want to emphasize: even based on humanitarian considerations, we did not carry out any strikes in the winter. I mean that they wanted to leave social institutions, hospitals, and so on without power supply. But after a series of attacks on our energy facilities, we were forced to respond"".
I won't even mention the transport infrastructure: the destruction of bridges across the Dnieper is completely unacceptable for our Aerospace Forces. complete taboo. Once they smashed the already blown-up Antonovsky Bridge with an Iskander to kill 20-30 Ukrainian infantry under the collapsed side span! A brilliant use of the Iskander, nothing like that has ever happened in history!

[Victor19]

The sect of witnesses of the Dnieper bridges is very, very influential!

[FoBoss_VM]

Well, they're all writing into the desert again. A couple of minor objects and that's it.... Like last time, puffing out their cheeks

[Nastia makarova]

yeah, to the desert)))) there are plenty of videos of how it flies into cities)))

[FoBoss_VM]

Well, we'll see. I have a hard time believing that Iran will go to open war. The wrong leadership is at the helm of the country.

[gsev]

Quote from: FoBoss_VM

The wrong leadership is at the helm of the country

The Iranian Prime Minister apparently learned about the strike organized by the IRGC leadership on Iran after the fact of the event.

[FoBoss_VM]

Yeah. I read it. It's like Putin finding out about the start of his February 24, 2022... who are they kidding?

[gsev]

Quote from: FoBoss_VM

if Putin had known about the beginning of his February 24, 2022.

The IRGC is a symbiosis of intelligence and the armed forces. The leadership of this structure is possibly more influential than the prime minister. For example, I was assured that Kadyrov was more influential in economic showdowns than Medvedev and Shoigu.

[Gefen Tamir]

The missile defense system in Israel only shoots back those missiles that can hit populated areas, and those that fall in the desert, let them fall on camels. 95% of the missiles were fired upon. Yes, fragments of downed missiles fell. And only one person died, and that was a Palestinian from the territory

[boni592807]

Arzoo. (Dmitry). October 1, 2024 21:57 PM. New. yours - "...Well, I'm not sure. But they pushed through the PRO...."
I hope Iran "will be found to have its own air defense system." it will be needed soon. It is not for nothing that the "partners" are discussing with such optimism where to strike and where to strike at the beginning.. The "peacemaker" Trump is especially zealous, wanting to immediately hit Iran's IObjects...
R.S.
The main thing is not to "play" in - "When they came for the communists, I was silent - I was not a communist.
When they came for the Social Democrats, I was silent - I was not a Social Democrat.
When they came for trade union activists, I was silent - I was not a member of the trade union.
When they came for me, there was no one to stand up for me.”

A quote from a speech by German pastor Martin Niemöller, in which he tried to explain the inaction of German intellectuals and their non-resistance to the Nazis.

[ZovSailor]

Orange Bigg
Today, 21: 56
[/i]Respect if the information is confirmed.[i]

The arrogant ones should be punished by the deaths of many civilians in the BV, including the so-called instructors in Bandera State, who sowed death among our military and civilians.

[voyaka uh]

"Respect if the information is confirmed."///
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It is not confirmed in any way.
No one was killed in the Iranian missile attack.
Military bases were not damaged either.
The missile defense system coped with the massive attack overall.

So far, Hezbollah has been more effective, sometimes hitting military bases near the Lebanese border.

[coinsam]

Then why nervously threaten to respond to an opponent whose weapon is clearly worthless?

[GEV67]

Tryndets. What other nonsense can I write?

[Zagrebun]

Don't hold back. You certainly won't surprise us.

[Orange Bigg]

Maybe someone heard about hypersonic missiles for the first time. That's why it became funny. Doesn't believe it.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Well done, Persians! Well done, fellows!

[KTM-5]

In the footage from Israel, the air defense/missile defense system is almost completely invisible.
The missiles fly calmly where they need to go.
The Persians are handsome, they did everything intelligently)

[antiaircrafter]

From the footage it's not clear at all what's flying where. Where's the missile. Where's the anti-missile.

[Montezuma]

If the Iranian "hypersound" penetrated the vaunted Israeli air defense, then this should cool Tel Aviv's ardor in its desire to raise the degree of escalation in the confrontation with Tehran. Israel will have to admit that it is not the only one with trump cards, and make further plans with an eye on possible serious consequences. The publication correctly noted that the denser the strikes will be on a small territory.

[Orange Bigg]

Will it cool the ardor of spoiled Tel Aviv? They will eat Netanyahu alive if he doesn’t attack Iran after this.

[Montezuma]

Quote from Orange Bigg

Will it cool the ardor of spoiled Tel Aviv? They will eat Netanyahu alive if he doesn’t attack Iran after this.

There is no doubt that Israel will carry out a missile attack. The question is the scale of the attack and its goals, and accordingly, the size of a possible second wave of Iranian missiles. It is clear that Tehran has a sufficient stock of such missiles, and the consequences of their arrivals will certainly now be taken into account by the Israeli General Staff. A cold shower of Iranian "hypersonic" will rid Netanyahu of excessive self-confidence.

[KVU-NSVD]

I wonder if Iran will publish photos from their satellites? They must have something far-sighted flying over their worst enemy in the region.

[Ascetic]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

Will Iran release photos from its satellites?

Iran has about 15 satellites in orbit for obtaining images and remote sensing of the earth's surface, plus a couple of telecommunications satellites. Iran is constantly expanding its satellite constellation. Iran launches 3-4 satellites a year, and plans to increase this number with the help of Roscosmos.

[Factor]

Mishustin unexpectedly flew to Iran yesterday.

After the assassination of Hezbollah leader Nasrallah in Beirut, Mishustin now found himself there. It is clear that the war clocks were being checked and loyalty to agreements was being tested - in view of force majeure and drastic changes in the world. But not only that.

Firstly, it would be foolish not to take advantage of the opportunity to convince the Persians once again that Russian embraces are much more reliable than American ones. This is far from unnecessary, after Pezeschkian's latest peacekeeping statements at the UN. On the contrary, now is the time to push through the broadest possible military and economic cooperation between the two world outcasts.

Secondly, Mishustin invited Pezeshkin to Moscow, to meet with Putin and urgently sign an agreement on "comprehensive strategic cooperation" between the two countries. Which now includes new, secret points. So Pezeshkin will no longer be able to claim that "there were no missile deliveries to Russia during my time."

Thirdly, Mishustin strikes while the iron is hot. Russia and Iran are preparing a “contract of the century,” which could lead to a blockade of the West on the global gas market. The collapse of Russia’s once leading industry can now only be avoided by changing the rules of the game on the global gas market. The stake on LNG is being hit by sanctions, and the stake on oil, given the end of OPEC+, is also sagging. Without a breakthrough on the economic raw materials front, Russia will face difficult times, and this track is now largely on Mishustin.

Fourthly, Russia needs to urgently intensify the cutting of a "window to the south". In view of the imminent likely closure of the "windows to the West" - in the Baltic and Black Seas. It is necessary to urgently break through the "north-south" corridor, turning Iran into the main transit and gas Russian hub on the world's sea trade routes. Not only the West, but also China is dissatisfied with Russia's activity on this track, not wanting to lose its monopoly on Russian transit. Now China and its capabilities in the world have greatly faded, against the background of its inability to resist the hawks of the global "war party". And this is a chance for Russia. (c)

[private person]

Mishustin unexpectedly flew to Iran yesterday.

He must have wanted to dissuade me. After all, more than half of our government is Jewish, and Mishustin is no exception.

[Factor]

Where there are political Jews, there is war, revolutions, coups d'etat and all for the big profit of the big Jews, who do not take into account the victims of the little Jews.

[fsb_buzuk]

"Mishustin invited Pezeshkin to Moscow" - Pezeshkin? It would have been better then Puzeshkin, clearly our guy.

[Carlos Hall]

A good coup by the ayatollahs

[Ascetic]

Information is emerging that Iran's IRGC has used hypersonic missiles for the first time in strikes against Israel.

In 2023, Iran unveiled its own hypersonic missile, the Fattah, with a hypersonic maneuvering warhead. According to the Iranian military, it is capable of moving at speeds of up to Mach 15 and hitting targets at a distance of 1,4 kilometers.

If this is really the case, then the reason why the "iron fart" and Strela are off today becomes increasingly obvious.

[pharmacist]

Due to the absence of a common border between the opponents, the First World Missile War began. A new page in history.

[opposite28]

Iranian TV channels report that hypersonic missiles that reached Israel in a matter of minutes knocked out several IDF missile defense systems at once. It is claimed that Iranian "hypersonic" destroyed the Arrow-2 and Arrow-3 systems.

By the way, it was not for nothing that Israel banned detailed photo/video recording of hits by local residents, not to mention the media, including foreign ones. According to the Iranian representative to the UN, the accuracy of the ammunition hit could have been intentional as a warning shot.

[antiaircrafter]

Well, for now it's time to go to bed. In the morning we'll see who's who.

[Nikolaevich I]

Long live Iran! Beat the Israeli fascists! The more the better! Death to the fascist Zionists!

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

How much does Netanyahu need war just to stay in power?

[Petrovich2202]

Well, he has something to look at here) Expired, look what he does to stay in power

[Dinic]

Iran has dented Netanyahu's career with hypersonic missiles.

[hump]

20 fighter jets, including F-35, destroyed in Israel, according to Iran

[guest]

Quote: Chepa

20 fighter jets, including F-35, destroyed in Israel, according to Iran

If at least one such fighter was destroyed, it would already be good.

[hump]

They bombed an entire airbase there to zero.

[Marcus Aurelius_3]

"Nuclear" - "not far off."
If the Persians are not drowned out in "0", the chosen ones will not rust.
Dumbly.
The prophecy speaks of exactly this development of events.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Iran talks more than it does, they also said that they destroyed 20 F-35s.

It would be nice to present at least some evidence for such statements, but this is all empty talk.

[kvv]

The Iron Dome turned out to be an ordinary iron sham

[Jcvai]

Hmm, hypersonic speeds on the boosters of the previous generations...
Maybe something new was tested there under the guise of noise, but the majority of it was the disposal of old ballistic stocks instead of writing them off.
Efficiency comes from mass production, not hyperspeed.

[Eugene Zaboy]

Iranian media: Iran's hypersonic missiles destroyed Israeli missile defense systems Arrow-2 and Arrow-3 for the first time

Netanyahu did not rejoice for long and considered himself a leader dictating conditions in the Middle East. A big war has begun and all that remains is to sympathize with the peaceful and defenseless citizens of Iran, Israel and all those affected by it.

[Dedok]

A big war has begun and all that remains is to sympathize with the peaceful and defenseless citizens of Iran, Israel and everyone else affected by it.

+ 100500!

[DimaSkyy]

that they had no information about the impending strike.

The entire region knows about such a strike in advance: 3-4 countries restrict/close airspace, and Israel watches the launch and trajectories of the missiles online and waits for them to arrive

[Joker62]

Iranian media: Iran's hypersonic missiles destroyed Israeli missile defense systems Arrow-2 and Arrow-3 for the first time

Here is your response from Iran to crazy Jews of all stripes.
We've played too much...

[Rage66]

Looks like there's a bolt for that cunning ass after all

[Joker62]

Quote: Rage66

Looks like there's a bolt for that cunning ass after all

That is, a bolt with a left-hand thread was found for the right nut???
They, the promised Jews, always find adventures for their cunning asses.

[Pavel57]

Quote: KTM-5

In the footage from Israel, the air defense/missile defense system is almost completely invisible.
The missiles fly calmly where they need to go.
The Persians are handsome, they did everything intelligently)

The work of the air defense is visible - some of the missiles are blown up in the air. But a smaller part.

[Alexey G]

Iranian media reports the first use of IRGC hypersonic missiles against Israeli air defense and missile defense positions. This indirectly explains the fact that Israeli missile defense was effectively powerless against a massive Iranian missile attack.

If only it were true, but then I think this is our help in technical matters!
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Meanwhile, the IDF command states that Iran will be given a "very tough response" this night. It is assumed that in the coming hours, the Iranian air defense system will already be under significant strain.

If the first is true, then I hope our air defense helped too!

[Revolver]

Quote: Alexey G

Iranian media

To trust them is to disrespect yourself. All the important news outlets, including those, to put it mildly, not sympathetic to Israel, such as CNN and BBC, do not report anything about the downed planes, and they would definitely seize on such hot facts. Again, in Israel, leftists like Haaretz would happily, even to the detriment of Israel, inflate any fact negative about Netanyahu, and did not do so only because there is nothing to inflate.
Again, the Persians did not present any objective control. And what they wrote is mainly oriented towards the internal information market, where they will "buy" everything, because there is no alternative.

[Pioneer1984]

Recall what losses in coalition aviation were declared during Operation Desert Storm and what they turned out to be in the end. And in the end they turned out to be five times higher. And this is not to mention the fact that losses in helicopters are still "terra incognito".

[skifs]

They have been harassing Iran for a long time. I thought they wouldn't get involved in the dirty scheme of the US and Israel, but the civilizers are still managing to start a fire in the Middle East. It seems like everything was calculated in advance on the servers. One of the options worked.

[Lena Petrova]

Quote: bayard

Well, it’s hard to even imagine what Israel itself can do with its nuclear potential (according to expert estimates, around 400-500 nuclear warheads).

According to estimates - up to 90-100. And 500 is the total of the British and French, or China. Although, it is still not a small number for this theater of military operations.

[Revolver]

True, in the case of Iran, military installations in that country are largely dispersed due to Iran's size, which cannot be said about Israel.

Military facilities may be dispersed, but nuclear and oil facilities are, firstly, large - you can't miss them even if you want to, and secondly, they are stationary. Just look at Kharg Island, and its terminals handle almost all of Iran's oil exports. If you set it on fire, wait weeks for everything to burn out, and then months, if not years, to restore the infrastructure. And without purchasing grain with petrodollars, Iran will go hungry, because they can't provide themselves with food.

[Pioneer1984]

So in the case of Israel, you can't disperse anything at all. And a massive strike on infrastructure would have catastrophic consequences.

[APASUS]

As I understand it, the clown has HUGE problems. Now all of NATO's air defense will suddenly go to Israel, and not to Ukraine.

[kig]

Experts, tell me why Iranian missiles are clearly visible in the final section. I thought the engines only work during acceleration and then fly by inertia.

[Barmaglot_07]

Quote: kig

Experts, tell me why Iranian missiles are clearly visible in the final section. I thought the engines only work during acceleration and then fly by inertia.

Why are meteors visible in the atmosphere? They don't even have an engine, they're just dead rocks.

[kig]

so, in your opinion, rockets fly at such a speed that they start to glow themselves, like meteors? Something somehow... In my opinion, in this case it would be more logical to say that they turn on searchlights to illuminate targets.

[Barmaglot_07]

The speed of an MRBM upon entering the atmosphere is 3-4 kilometers per second.

[mad-max78]

Can someone explain why an air defense missile needs an inertial guidance system?

[solar]

For operation of the guidance system with periodic correction of the flight trajectory.

[Pioneer1984]

If the positions are like in the photo, then it is a rocket scientist’s dream.

[mad-max78]

Quote from solar

For operation of the guidance system with periodic correction of the flight trajectory.

A ballistic missile needs this so that it can understand where it is flying without GPS and correct its direction during flight, but the article says that air defense missiles are equipped with such a system, the question is why?

[Krasnodar]

They struck three kilometers from the Mosaad residence, which air defense system could they hit?

[Rabin]

Difficile d'imaginer l'ampleur des dégâts si effectivement ces centaines de missiles ont pu franchir les systèmes de défense antimissile de Tsahal.

[Conrad1045]

Arrow-3 is a joint development... The anti-missile uses an inertial navigation system.

We've arrived! Since when has INS been used in missile defense...