Poland and Ukraine: Not Brothers Again

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Poland and Ukraine: Not Brothers Again


People who get in everyone's way


Europe is becoming less and less inclined to shelter refugees from Ukraine. This is especially true for men of military age. The British are gradually evicting Ukrainians from their homes - about 9 thousand families may simply end up on the street.



The Hungarians acted more radically, determining that part of the western territories of Ukraine were quite safe for habitation. And immediately evicted refugees from shelters.

The Poles have not yet managed to do this, but the government is trying to note the benefits of the European Union for men subject to mobilization. The measure is as repressive as it is disadvantageous for Russia. If Poland continues to put pressure, then some of the forced migrants will actually return to Ukraine, which means that men of draft age will also join the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Moreover, enemy soldiers are paid very well - from 274 thousand in ruble equivalent.

Of course, this is true for the militants on the front line. Therefore, nationalist sentiments in Poland may not undermine, but rather stimulate the enemy's combat potential. Polish Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski, in a heart-to-heart talk with pranksters, stated this directly:

"We are reducing Ukraine's mobilization potential by paying benefits to Ukrainian refugees. If they are under EU protection as refugees, they receive 200 euros a month for each child registered in the Polish system. In Western Europe, they receive different compensation. This creates financial obstacles for young men and women who could return home to defend their country. We should not subsidize disobedience."

The rhetoric of the head of the Polish Foreign Ministry fits well with Zelensky's concept of total destruction of the adult population of Ukraine. That is why Kyiv has no objections to the fate of its citizens from Europe and cannot have any. The sooner the Europeans push the unfortunate refugees back to the east, the stronger the military and political elite of the enemy will become.


But as soon as matters concern political and historical questions, the Kiev junta is taking a fighting stance. It would seem that Poland has been working for Ukraine for over two years and even almost sent its troops to support the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Who else but the Poles should thank the Ukrainians? But the disagreements between Kiev and Warsaw are becoming increasingly acute.

The leadership and courtiers do not mince words. Historical territorial disputes are brought into play. Deputy Vyatrovich reminded the Poles how less than a hundred years ago they bargained for Ukrainian lands:

"In 1920, Petliura received help from Pilsudski in the form of renunciation of part of the Ukrainian territories in favor of Poland. Therefore, it is wrong when this forced union is presented as a manifestation of the brotherhood of our peoples. The following year, Pilsudski abandoned Petliura, making peace with the Bolsheviks. And the Ukrainians got it from him: sorry guys."

The politicians were not just flooded with sharp memories for no reason – Zelensky clearly decided to have a serious row with yesterday’s “brothers forever.” The main irritant for the expired president was the above-mentioned head of the Polish Foreign Ministry Radoslaw Sikorski.

Sikorsky vs. Zelensky


The Polish government's unprecedented support for the Kyiv regime by European standards must be compensated accordingly. Understanding that Zelensky has money and weapon disappear as if into a black hole, Warsaw hoped for political dividends. At least for the recognition of the historical fact of the Volyn massacre. Sikorski declared on September 13:

"What happened in 1943 during the German occupation of Poland and Ukraine was a plan by the Ukrainian resistance to ethnically cleanse the Volyn region through the mass murder of the Polish civilian population."

Ukrainian nationalists tortured and killed up to 120 thousand Poles - now Warsaw hopes for the exhumation of remains and reburial in Poland.

But acknowledging the obvious has long been out of Zelensky's nature. In his understanding, any concessions, even to his allies, look like weakness. The Volyn massacre is one of the bloodiest stains on the history of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (the organization is recognized as extremist in the Russian Federation, its activities are prohibited), and acknowledging its war crimes will be a significant blow to the nationalists in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Ukraine has been glorifying Banderites for decades, and suddenly, overnight, they will be declared murderers and rapists. A real knife in the back from Zelensky.

Therefore, the Kiev regime will never recognize the Volyn massacre, much less allow the exhumation of remains to be turned into an act of repentance. An experienced politician, which Zelensky is not, should have simply kept quiet about the situation and not provoked Poland. But he ignited the conflict even more. During the visit of a delegation of Western diplomats to Kyiv, Zelensky and Sikorsky almost came to blows.


"It didn't get through to Zelensky." The Polish press doesn't mince words.

On the Polish side, the current escalation looks very much like a carefully planned anti-Ukrainian action. In response to Zelensky's rudeness, Sikorsky intends to act much more harshly.

First, Poland will assume the presidency of the European Union from January 2025 and intends to squeeze recognition of the Volyn tragedy out of Kyiv during this time. The Poles do not intend to deal with the methods of influence. Although Sikorski reported on the inviolability of military supplies to Ukraine in this matter, everything is not so simple.

Warsaw only needs to focus on the illegal supply of Ukrainian grain to the countries once again, and farmers will again block border roads and checkpoints. The government has nothing to do with it – this is the will of the voters. Zelensky should clearly be more careful.

The second point Sikorski pointed out concerns the status of Crimea. The head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs proposed transferring Russian Crimea under a UN mandate to hold a referendum on the status of the peninsula in 20 years.

The proposal is as delusional as it is unexpected from a NATO politician. It is clear that such rhetoric does not carry any real meaning, but it was very painful for Zelensky's office. The Polish diplomat wanted this so much that he was not afraid to use the topic of Crimea's statehood, which is taboo in the West.

Perhaps, only words about recognizing the peninsula as Russian, and with them four new territories, would have sounded more effective. Now everything is in Zelensky's hands. You never know, he will drive the Poles to such steps.


Rodislav Sikorsky

Despite the fact that both sides try not to touch upon the topic of arms supplies from Poland and through Poland to Ukraine, the political crisis can turn into a military-political one in one minute. The first steps have already been taken – the Poles have directly reminded Kyiv that Ukraine will not join the European Union without their consent. And even less so NATO.

Zelensky is not to be envied. Not only does the Bandera leader have to fight his own demons, but Poland also has its own claims. If you don’t repent, you won’t get help, and if you repent, your own people will spit on you or worse.

Poland, having felt Zelensky's deflection, will immediately go on the attack and raise the issue of territorial justice in Ukraine. We are talking about the western lands that fell to the Ukrainians against the will of Poland. If they recognize the Volyn massacre, then why not go further. Moreover, Ukraine owes Poland at least for several decades to come.
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  1. +3
    27 September 2024 05: 21
    Poland and Ukraine: Not Brothers Again

    A boa constrictor hugs a rabbit!
    1. +1
      27 September 2024 19: 51
      More like a hyena hugging a rat! Zelya is expired and looks like a rat in both his mug and his habits. He eats the country from the inside like cheese, and drags the prey into his holes, bought with money stolen from aid to the country!
  2. +3
    27 September 2024 05: 33
    no one there is a brother between either the Poles or the Ukrainians. If we keep in mind the recently created Union of the Lublin Triangle, then the third brother Lithuania is not a brother to anyone there, and no one there is a brother to it either. Everyone there has a special pride that only they are the navel of the earth located on the land of the Virgin Mary, and others are worse, dumber, weaker, poorer, etc. The only thing they had in common was the looming fact from the beginning of the nineties of the twentieth century that in front of them there is the skin of the still unkilled Russian bear and we should not quarrel among ourselves while waiting for the death of this bear. By the way, for this very reason, in 2014 the Poles and Lithuanians clapped so much for the Maidan in Ukraine. They thought that with this the death of Russia would begin. Here we can still argue about who pushed Ukraine more towards this and prepared it for the Maidan - Poland or the USA. Of course, if the Poles were brothers to the Ukrainians, they would tell the USA that Russia's inevitable victory in the SVO is visible and it is time for Ukraine to give in and capitulate, thus saving the lives of hundreds of thousands of our Ukrainian brothers. But no. Weapons, missiles, and mercenaries are flowing to Ukraine through Poland.
    You still have no idea how the Poles and Lithuanians will kick the Ukrainians out of Poland and Lithuania after Russia's victory in the SVO. And if Poland also gets a piece of Western Ukraine, the Poles will definitely need slaves there. That's the kind of brothers they are among themselves.
    1. +3
      27 September 2024 12: 24
      That's right. The more weapons Poland transits to the 404th, the more acute the conflict and the Ukrainian population, especially the men, burn in the fire. And they hit the Russians, double the benefit. When the 404th loses this war, and this is quite likely, bargaining will open with the weakened and indebted 404th on the subject of "territory in exchange for EU membership and writing off loans." And here the dancers will not have much room to maneuver. So the Poles' policy is quite harmonious. Well, and the dancers will have a severe hangover.
  3. +6
    27 September 2024 06: 12
    Poland and Ukraine: Not Brothers Again
    So the Poles are not our brothers either. We don't have any relatives at all. Only freeloaders. We are alone in the sandbox, with our toys...
  4. +5
    27 September 2024 06: 28
    The Russian leadership has a strange reaction to this topic - they need to shout with all their might about the Volyn massacre, accusing the Banderites of crimes against humanity and equating today's Ukrainian leadership with those criminals. In turn, they need to whip up hysteria in Ukraine about the atrocities of the Poles in the Western region. There is none of this. It's strange...
    1. +3
      27 September 2024 06: 49
      And who will our media shout about this to? To our own ears. We already know this. And for those to whom this was intended, our words do not reach.
      1. +2
        27 September 2024 06: 52
        Quote from: dmi.pris1
        And who will our media shout about this to? To our own ears. We already know this. And for those to whom this was intended, our words do not reach.

        How is this for whom? The Poles are to talk about the atrocities of Banderovites, and the Skakly about Polish atrocities. And everything gets through just fine, because there are a lot of media outlets controlled by our special services. There are also analysts and journalists who, by the nature of their work, are supposed to read everything. There are also bloggers on YouTube...
  5. +4
    27 September 2024 07: 24
    The Poles will take back their Lvov, no matter what anyone does here, and the population is generally happy, especially since they already consider themselves a separate people from the East. And the parasites from the neighboring countries will soon be driven out openly, they are too expensive, it is bad that they will be thrown against us right away
    1. +5
      27 September 2024 09: 32
      The problem is that there are practically no Poles in Lviv, and the city’s residents are not particularly pro-Polish.
      1. +1
        27 September 2024 17: 18
        Poles are no strangers to this. Let's remember "pacification" in Galicia.
      2. 0
        28 September 2024 10: 57
        Lvov Poles from the pre-war Polish-Jewish city of Lvov moved to the Polish city of Wroclaw after the war (mostly Jews to the next world). Wroclaw before the war was German Breslau.
        The native Galicians from neighboring villages moved into Polish and Jewish houses in Lvov. Lvov began to smell bad...
      3. 0
        29 September 2024 12: 46
        How else can you look at who is in the mood and how....? The majority of citizens of Lviv, Ternopil, Ivano-Frankivsk (Galicia) hope for European integration, taking into account the possibility of working there, since there were not enough jobs in the western part of Ukraine until 2014.
      4. 0
        29 September 2024 20: 53
        Once a guy from our department was skiing in the Polish Carpathians and stayed in a small hotel with a Pole. He communicated with him normally. And here's what he found out: Poles don't like Russians, but they don't like Ukrainians even more, and they mostly know Western Ukrainians.
    2. Des
      +1
      27 September 2024 11: 44
      There are 7 times more Russians than Poles in Lviv))). But 90% are Ukrainians.
    3. +2
      27 September 2024 18: 47
      Quote: Vadim S
      And soon they will start to openly expel the parasites from the neighboring countries, they are too expensive, it’s bad that they will be immediately thrown against us

      That's exactly how they moved back! They didn't flee for that. They'd rather make their way deeper into Europe. The Czech Republic, France, Spain...
  6. +4
    27 September 2024 08: 08
    Emotions and historical memory are political tools that are used to gain political and economic benefits and as part of internal power struggles.

    "Friends" or "enemies" - this is for the public, but in reality they are partners and competitors.
  7. +3
    27 September 2024 08: 42
    I will never be a diplomat or a head of state. If I were Sikorski, I would spit in the face of an expired person and call him a "smelly little Jew." And finally: "If you are offended, you can declare war on Poland."
  8. +4
    27 September 2024 09: 27
    In the capitalist world it's business and nothing personal, but here it's sprinkled with lyrics: Brothers, not brothers...
  9. +2
    27 September 2024 10: 31
    They pay enemy soldiers very well - from 274 thousand in ruble equivalent.

    More than we have, or what?
  10. +5
    27 September 2024 12: 06
    When were Ukrainians and Poles brothers? Ukrainians have always been treated like serfs
  11. +2
    27 September 2024 12: 27
    These two nations are worth each other. History is proof of that.
  12. +3
    27 September 2024 13: 33
    Scammers are scamming scammers... So to speak, a modern Union of sword and ploughshare! laughing
  13. +1
    27 September 2024 16: 32
    We are talking about the western lands that fell to the Ukrainians against the will of Poland. If they recognize the Volyn massacre, then why not go further.

    Further - is it up to the Cossack revolts of Khmelnitsky? But the Pereyaslav Rada will also emerge there - there will also be something to remember.
  14. 0
    27 September 2024 20: 53
    They have such a brave place as Volyn. As soon as internal contradictions grow a little, the dear gentry Banderites come together in Volyn and... cut each other a little. Then they disperse, letting off bloody steam and pretending for a while that nothing happened. So Volyn is waiting impatiently for Banderites and gentry to come to the traditional interethnic folk fun...
  15. 0
    27 September 2024 21: 43
    Article from the section Hyena is no friend to a pig.
    1. 0
      28 September 2024 10: 04
      Whatever they say. The result is known. Weapons supplies will continue. No one will be forced back to Ukraine, those who fled the war will not go to fight voluntarily, they will go further to Europe or America, but not to the front.
      And Poland will fight with Russia. Not for mythical national issues, but for Russia's wealth.
  16. 0
    30 September 2024 16: 41
    What can you expect from a European hyena? A hyena is a hyena!
  17. 0
    Yesterday, 14: 29
    There are quite a few natives of Ukraine and Belarus who have settled in Poland. No one is chasing them away. And the way the top officials kiss there - passionately, or slap each other on the butt, it's a funny show.