"We will fight to the last!"

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"We will fight to the last!"
Anglo-French bombing reflection fleet from the side of the Alexander Battery on October 5, 1854. Sevastopol. Artist: F. A. Roubaud


Enemy at the gate


In the summer of 1854, the superior forces of the enemy fleet – 34 ships of the line and 55 frigates (including most steam ones) blockaded the Russian fleet in the Sevastopol Bay.



After the landing of the enemy army in Crimea and the defeat of the Russian Army on the Alma (How England, France and Türkiye Began the Invasion of Crimea; Alma) the difficult question of the future of Sevastopol, the main base of the Black Sea Fleet, arose. The Anglo-French expeditionary forces, which had suffered heavy losses, were in no hurry to storm Sevastopol. But it was clear that they would come soon.

By the evening of September 12 (24), the allied army approached the Belbek River and from there the following day began a flanking movement to the southern side of the city. On the morning of September 14 (26), the French took up positions on the Fedyukhin Heights, and the British – Balaklava. The allied fleet entered Balaklava harbor.

In Balaklava, the Greek battalion of Colonel Matvey Manto fought the enemy. E. Totleben later wrote about this event: “While the English were approaching Balaklava, the commander of the Balaklava Greek infantry battalion, Colonel Manto, was holed up in the ancient ruins. With one company of his battalion, including 80 combatants and 30 retired soldiers. They had 4 copper half-pood mortars… The enemy’s vanguard, approaching Balaklava, was unexpectedly met with fire from Greek riflemen.”

The Greek riflemen entrenched themselves in the ruins of the former Genoese fortress. At the same time, British ships anchored in the roadstead from the Fortress Mountain. The allies experienced another case of "friendly fire". Artillery ground forces fired at the fortress and the English fleet, and the English fleet fired at the fortress and its own ground corps.

After a six-hour firefight, when the defenders ran out of shells, the British went on the attack. The wounded Colonel Monto, six officers and about 60 soldiers, almost all wounded, were captured. Part of the Greek battalion broke through into the mountains, repelled the attack of the Crimean Tatars and then joined the Russian Army at Yalta.


I.K. Aivazovsky. The Siege of Sevastopol

Kornilov and Nakhimov


During this most difficult period, the Chief of Staff of the Black Sea Fleet and the Northern Forces, and soon the actual commander of all the troops remaining in Sevastopol, Vladimir Alekseevich Kornilov, came to the fore. This was not surprising, given the moral and intellectual qualities of this great Russian man.

Kornilov, like Nakhimov, was a student of Lazarev, a man of the type who evoked the love of ordinary sailors and the respect of enemies. Vladimir Alekseevich had a broad specialized education and showed more administrative abilities for organizing the fleet and port economy than Nakhimov. Pavel Stepanovich was more of a brilliant naval commander than an economic manager. Therefore, Nakhimov, although he had seniority in service, without the slightest hesitation in those terrible days handed over the issues of organizing the defense to Kornilov.

Kornilov and Nakhimov became the soul of the defense of Sevastopol. They were both ardent patriots and considered the defense of Sevastopol a matter of honor. They had long warned the command about the need to develop a steam (screw) fleet, and urgently strengthen the poorly defended Sevastopol. However, these warnings and reminders were ignored in St. Petersburg.


Russian squadron at Sevastopol roadstead. I. Aivazovsky, 1846

Six months before the landing of the allied army in Crimea, Kornilov presented Menshikov with a project for fortifications that were proposed to be immediately built in Sevastopol. Officers of the Black Sea Fleet and some city residents were ready to pay for the construction of fortifications. Menshikov indignantly rejected this reasonable proposal. Kornilov persisted, seeing what a terrible threat hung over Crimea and Sevastopol.

In the end, he was able to insist that contractor Volohov be allowed to build a tower at his own expense to protect the raid from the sea. This fortification was completed two days before the landing of the allied forces in Crimea. It was this tower that would save the raid from the enemy fleet approaching the shore during the first bombardment of Sevastopol.

After the enemy landed in Crimea, work on building fortifications was in full swing in Sevastopol. Kornilov noted in his diary that the work was proceeding with great success, people were working with enthusiasm and great enthusiasm.

On September 9 (21) – 10 (22), Menshikov’s troops, having suffered a defeat on the Alma River, arrived in Sevastopol, but did not stay in the city. Menshikov ordered the city to be abandoned on September 11 (23), and on September 12, he himself left Sevastopol. The troops retreated to Bakhchisarai.

As a result, the fate of the city was in the hands of Nakhimov and Kornilov. General Moller, appointed by Menshikov as the head of the Sevastopol garrison, did not actually lead the defense, only signed orders and sat in the rear.


Defense of Sevastopol


For defense from the sea, Sevastopol had the Black Sea Fleet - 14 battleships, 7 frigates, 1 corvette, 2 brigs, 11 steamships. Sevastopol, as the main military port in the south of Russia, was supplied with everything necessary to support the fleet's operations. There was an admiralty, docks, an arsenal, food warehouses, a warehouse for guns, gunpowder and other supplies, naval barracks and two hospitals. The city had up to 2 thousand stone houses and up to 40 thousand residents, almost exclusively Russian, mostly related to the fleet.

The coast was defended by 13 batteries with 611 guns. These forces were sufficient to repel the attack of the allied fleet on Sevastopol.

The greatest concern was caused by land defense, especially in the northern part of the city. The commanders of the Russian fleet expected an immediate enemy attack on Sevastopol, which was defenseless from the north. Regarding the defense of the city from land, the previously prevailing opinion was that it was impossible to land a large force on the peninsula and, consequently, it was impossible to attack Sevastopol with large forces from land.

The conditions of the terrain on which the city is located made it possible to create a powerful defense from the sea and at the same time made it extremely difficult to organize a defense from the land. The city, divided by the Sevastopol Bay into two parts, northern and southern, required a relatively large number of troops for its defense. The city itself and the naval structures were mainly located on the southern shore of the Sevastopol roadstead. At the same time, the northern shore occupied a commanding position, and therefore its possession was equivalent to possession of the roadstead and the port.

As the Russian military historian A. M. Zayonchkovsky wrote, Sevastopol was not fortified at all from the land side. The northern side had only a thin wall, which was not an obstacle for modern artillery. Moreover, the existing fortifications were located so ineptly that the surrounding heights dominated some of them, reducing their importance to zero. The northern side was protected by about 200 guns, but there were few large-caliber ones.

Sevastopol was also poorly defended from the south. In the southern defensive position, instead of the planned 6 bastions with 12 guns each, only the 6th bastion was actually ready. In total, the southern defensive line, 7 km long, had only 145 guns installed in unfinished fortifications.

The distribution of artillery weapons in Sevastopol was done ineptly. Thus, the key height of defense in the center of the positions - Malakhov Kurgan, was defended by only 5 guns. In addition, they were located in one tower, which was not protected, and they could be buried under the rubble with a lucky shot. By the beginning of the hostilities in Sevastopol, no reserves were made weapons, ammunition and food.


L. G. Beskrovny. Atlas of maps and diagrams on the Russian military stories

"We have the honor of defending Sevastopol!"


Only a mistake by the Allied command saved the northern part of the city from capture. Many officers in the French and English armies were convinced that the attack would be made on the Northern side. However, on the morning of September 10 (22), British General John Burgoyne (chief of the engineering service, before the war he helped the Turks build fortifications in the Dardanelles) came to the commander-in-chief of the English army, Lord Raglan, and proposed to refrain from attacking the Northern side and move to the Southern side.

Raglan did not make a decision himself and sent an engineer to the French commander-in-chief, Marshal Saint-Arnaud. Most of the French generals also proposed attacking the Northern side. But the gravely ill Saint-Arnaud (he had only a few days left to live), after listening to the Englishman, said that Sir John was right. Bypassing Sevastopol from the south allowed the use of Crimean harbors in this part of Sevastopol.

Thus, the allied forces stretched from the weakly defended Northern side to the south.

Kornilov and Totleben believed that God's providence saved Sevastopol. If the enemy had attacked the Northern side immediately after the Battle of Alma, the city, unprepared for defense, would have had no chance of a long-term defense. Kornilov noted in his diary: "God must not have abandoned Russia yet. Of course, if the enemy had gone to Sevastopol directly after the Battle of Alma, he would have easily captured it."

Obviously, the Russian commanders were being modest. In fact, Sevastopol was saved from immediate collapse not only by the enemy's mistakes, but also by the decisive actions of Nakhimov, Kornilov and Totleben.

After Alma, Menshikov did not know what the enemy would do. On September 12 (24), he assumed that the enemy wanted to cut off Sevastopol and the entire Crimea from Perekop, that is, from the rest of Russia. And he decided to prevent this, preserving freedom of maneuver. In Sevastopol, the commander-in-chief left a very weak garrison - eight reserve battalions. Such a garrison could not resist the enemy army. In fact, Sevastopol was left without land defense. Time was needed to form naval units and organize defense. And the enemy could strike at any moment.

Kornilov objected to the withdrawal of the army from Sevastopol. But he could not persuade Menshikov. He believed that his task was to maintain contact with Russia and prevent the complete siege of Sevastopol, since his army created a flank threat to the troops of the Western coalition. At the same time, he even withdrew the entire cavalry, worsening the reconnaissance capabilities of the Sevastopol garrison. On September 13 (25), Menshikov's army reached Belbek. On September 14 (26), Russian troops were located on the Kacha River. Admiral Nakhimov did not approve of these maneuvers and called Menshikov's actions a game of blind man's buff.

On September 13 (25), 1854, a state of siege was declared in Sevastopol. The city's defense was headed by Vice-Admiral Kornilov, who was officially considered the chief of the defense staff. His closest assistants were the squadron commander, Vice-Admiral Nakhimov, who was appointed head of the Southern Side, and Rear Admiral Istomin (chief of defense of Malakhov Kurgan). General management of the engineering work was carried out by engineer Colonel Totleben.

The work of Kornilov, Totleben, Nakhimov and Istomin after the departure of Menshikov's army was simply titanic. They did everything possible and impossible to prepare Sevastopol for a difficult fight. People worked in three shifts, even at night by the light of lanterns. Every morning, 5 to 6 thousand people went to work, and in the evening, others replaced them.

In his letters of September 14 (26) and 16 (28), Kornilov wrote: “We have been fortifying the city all day… Work is in full swing on the fortifications; we know neither sleep nor fatigue; even the prisoners are working hard… Meanwhile, the enemy is approaching Sevastopol… We are not losing heart here, we are fortifying ourselves as best we can, as our resources allow. The chain of redoubts, bastions and various types of batteries will soon present a continuous line of cannon fire.”

At the same time, fortifications had to be built not only in conditions of constant expectation of an enemy attack, but also in the absence of literally the most basic things. Thus, in Sevastopol there was the brilliant engineer Totleben, and sappers, and selfless workers, but there were no iron shovels and picks. Apparently, someone had been stealing money allocated for entrenching tools for years. They rushed to Odessa, but there were no picks there either, and the shovels were sent only on October 3 by horse-drawn carts, and they arrived on October 17. Until that time, they had to dig and chisel the soil, often rocky, and then daily restore the parapets destroyed by enemy artillery - with the help of wooden shovels.

Totleben significantly expanded the frontal position on the North side and virtually re-equipped the defensive line on the South side. Due to the lack of time, it was not possible to build powerful, long-term fortifications. It was necessary to work along the entire line, using what the city and the fleet could provide.

Totleben applied the following principles: he chose the closest, most convenient position to the city, and deployed artillery there; these positions were connected by trenches for riflemen; separate batteries were placed here and there between the main points of defense. Sevastopol received quite strong frontal and flank defense.

As a result, where previously there had been only separate fortifications, not connected to each other and with large unprotected gaps, a continuous defensive line was set up with artillery positions, dugouts, shelters, powder magazines and communication lines. The enemy missed the moment for an open assault and began siege work.

“We did more in a week than we had previously done in a year,” Kornilov wrote about this feat of the Sevastopol people in his diary.

On September 15 (27), Kornilov delivered a speech to the Sevastopol garrison:

"Comrades, we have the honor of defending Sevastopol, defending our native fleet! We will fight to the last! We have nowhere to retreat, the sea is behind us. I forbid all unit commanders to beat the retreat, the drummers must forget this battle!"


Monument to General E. I. Totleben on the Historical Boulevard in Sevastopol. Created in 1903, opened on August 5 (18), 1909, restored due to damage during the Great Patriotic War in 1945. Authors of the monument: amateur artist, General A. A. Bilderling and sculptor I. N. Schroeder

"What to do with the fleet?"


When Kornilov asked Menshikov, "What to do with the fleet?" The commander-in-chief replied: "Put it in your pocket." Kornilov still demanded instructions at the expense of the fleet. Then Menshikov answered more definitely: remove the guns, send the sailors to the defense of the city, drill and prepare the ships for flooding, block the entrance to the bay with them.

On September 9 (21), Kornilov held a meeting and proposed, despite the enemy's enormous superiority, to go out to sea and strike the enemy. Death was almost inevitable, but the Russian fleet would retain its honor, avoiding shameful captivity, and could cause serious damage to the enemy, which could disrupt the coalition army's offensive in Crimea.

The Russian fleet could take advantage of the disorder in the disposition of the British and French ships at Cape Ulukola, strike first, get to close range and board. In extreme cases, when the crews had exhausted their means of combat and the ships were seriously damaged, it was proposed to blow themselves up along with the enemy.

This daring plan was supported by some, rejected by others. Kornilov went to Menshikov and declared his readiness to take the fleet to sea and strike the enemy.

The commander categorically forbade this. He again ordered the ships to be sunk. Kornilov continued to stand his ground. Then Menshikov reported that if Kornilov did not obey, he would be sent to serve in Nikolaev. Kornilov cried out: “Stop! This is suicide… What are you forcing me to do… But for me to leave Sevastopol, surrounded by the enemy, is impossible! I am ready to obey you.”

Admiral Nakhimov also advocated decisive action by the fleet. But he was forced to admit: "...The use of a screw engine will finally resolve the issue of our current insignificance in the Black Sea... we are left with one future, which can only exist in Sevastopol... if we lose Sevastopol and the fleet, we will lose all hope for the future; having Sevastopol, we will also have a fleet... without Sevastopol it is impossible to have a fleet in the Black Sea; this axiom clearly proves the need to decide on all measures to block the entrance of enemy ships to the roadstead."


Admiral Nakhimov. Hood. Georg Wilhelm Timm, also known as Vasily Fedorovich Timm

Kornilov addressed the sailors with an order, which stated that they had to give up "the beloved idea of ​​​​smiting the enemy on the water," and they were needed to defend Sevastopol. "We must submit to necessity: Moscow burned, but Rus' did not perish from this."

At dawn on the 11th (23rd) the sinking of ships began. In Sevastopol Bay, across the roadstead, the following ships were sunk: Silistria, Varna, Uriel, Tri Svyatelitelya, Selafail and two frigates: Flora and Sisipol.

In February 1855, to strengthen the barrier, the ships Dvenadtsat Apostolov, Svyatoslav, Rostislav, and the frigates Kagul, Mesemvria, and Midia were additionally sunk. A detachment of six combat-ready ships of the Black Sea Fleet remained in Sevastopol, including the ships Chesma, Velikiy Knyaz Konstantin, Empress Maria, Khrabry, Parizh, and Yagudiil. They were sunk on August 28 (September 9), 1855, when the garrison abandoned the city.

The importance of this event was also recognized by the enemy. The French admiral Gamelin noted that if the Russians had not blocked the entrance to Sevastopol Bay, then, without a doubt, the allied fleet would have successfully entered it after the first sustained fire and established contact with the ground forces.

The sinking of the ships is a matter of debate among researchers. Some believe that it was a necessary step, motivated by military expediency. Most military historians have concluded that the sinking of the ships was a rational act. However, there is also a completely opposite opinion.

Thus, the military writer D. Likhachev in 1902 concluded that blocking the entrance to the Sevastopol roadstead with sunken ships of the Black Sea Fleet had a negative tactical and strategic significance. In his opinion, the land defense could have been strengthened with naval guns without sinking the ships. At the same time, he acknowledged that the Black Sea Fleet's exit to sea (which had 45 ships, including small ships) to attack the enemy fleet (89 ships, including 50 paddle and screw steamers) had no hope of success.

Likhachev believed that the hasty decision to sink the ships affected the defense of Sevastopol. If the ships had been saved, there would have been a serious threat to the enemy fleet and the enemy's sea communications. This would have forced the enemy to maintain a tight blockade of Sevastopol from the sea throughout the siege in order to secure its operational base and communications.


The ship "The Twelve Apostles" on the lithograph by V. A. Prokhorov

Everything for the front!


The sinking of the ships was perceived with deep pain by all the sailors. For them, their native ships were living creatures, their home. However, the sailors did not fall into despondency, but on the contrary, mobilized all their forces to repel the enemy. New units were formed, experienced commanders were put at their head, combat areas were distributed.

Kornilov and Nakhimov defined the main tasks of the units and subdivisions. Fortifications were built. Guns were removed from the ships. As a result, almost the entire defensive line (except for the 6th bastion) was armed with naval guns. Thus, the Black Sea Fleet became the defensive line that protected Sevastopol.

On September 11–12 (23–24), 17 naval battalions were formed, with a total of 12 people. When people were taken from the ships, according to the recollections of Captain-Lieutenant Voevodsky, the hardest thing was to select the crew that remained on the ship. Voevodsky noted: “What can’t you do with such people? Any praise for the people will not be enough, only in such difficult times can you appreciate them.”

Along with the guns, various ship items and materials were transported. For example, water tanks were adapted as powder magazines. Gunpowder, shells, various artillery accessories, telescopes, etc. were transported. Day after day, the bastions of Sevastopol were reinforced with new structures and batteries.

People worked with amazing energy, typical of Russian people in the days of the most difficult trials. Difficulties and dangers made Russians only stronger, forced them to show their unprecedented potential. From morning till night, sailors dug ditches, trenches, laid walls, carried guns and various supplies, equipment to the mountains, and at night they carried out patrol duty.

Every day the defense of Sevastopol grew stronger. In just three weeks of continuous work (from September 15 to October 5), which was in full swing day and night, the defenders built 20 batteries. The artillery armament of the outer fortifications doubled – from 172 to 341 guns. And during the heroic defense of Sevastopol, 2 thousand guns from the Russian fleet were installed on land positions. At the same time, from the very beginning of the battle, naval guns showed greater effectiveness in destroying enemy fortifications than ordinary light siege and field guns.

Menshikov's army reached the Northern side of Sevastopol on September 18 (30), when Sevastopol had long since decided to fight to the death and was actively working to equip positions. Until that moment, there had been no news from him. Menshikov transferred three infantry regiments to the Southern side, thereby strengthening the city's defense.

The commander-in-chief still showed little interest in what was happening in Sevastopol. He located his headquarters near Belbek. Menshikov informed Kornilov that he would try to organize a "sabotage" to distract the enemy from the city. Kornilov and Nakhimov doubted the usefulness of such an event and did not believe in the commander's strategy. On October 2, Nakhimov led the remaining ships out of the South Bay and positioned them so skillfully that they provided artillery support for the defense of Sevastopol until their end.

Thus, Russia owes Kornilov, Nakhimov, Totleben and Istomin that a strong enemy did not take Sevastopol on the move and did not capture Russian ships. Menshikov failed to organize the land defense of Sevastopol. Only the iron will and skill of these great men saved the Russian Empire from the shame of the city's rapid fall.

Thus began the heroic 349-day defense of Sevastopol, which became one of the most striking pages in Russian history. In Europe, this defense was called the "Russian Troy".


I. A. Vladimirov "The Sinking of the Black Sea Fleet Ships in the Sevastopol Roadstead on September 11, 1854"
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  1. +6
    25 September 2024 05: 25
    As far as I know, and this was confirmed by the guide of the Sevastopol panorama, due to the hustle and bustle, not all the ships had time to remove their guns; some were sunk with the guns.
    1. +3
      25 September 2024 08: 00
      The class gave the man a minus for reliable information, the ships were sunk in panic with all their supplies.
    2. +4
      25 September 2024 08: 34
      I don't know why they gave me a minus, but it's true that they sank with guns and gunpowder, they disarmed the ships that weren't sunk, and this concerns the first line of flooding, between the Aleksandrovskaya and Konstantinovskaya casemated batteries. You saw the latter even without being in Sevastopol on TV about the annexation of Crimea.
      After the enemy had reconnoitred where the masts were, I believe the first assault on Sevastopol began on October 5, 1854, otherwise we call it an attack from the sea. The enemy was well prepared and the captains conducted a staff exercise.
      The battleship Agamemnon had almost passed between the masts, but received 2 64-pound cannonballs from the Mikhailovskaya battery, which, I’m too lazy to count, is no less than 25 kg, for comparison, the fortress walls collapsed at 11 kg, and that was the end of the passage through the barrier.

      And let's be honest - it was a victory over the two best fleets in the world, not a rout, but the plan was completely thwarted. They buried thousands of their fighters in the rocky Sevastopol soil because of epidemics and cold, and the question is not how many degrees of frost there are, but what the humidity is.
      1. 0
        26 September 2024 22: 33
        Quote: Alexander Salenko
        2 x 64 lb cannonballs

        What a strange caliber.
        Maybe 68 pounds?
        1. 0
          27 September 2024 07: 23
          Maybe I could be wrong there with pounds, it’s a real mess, it was different for each country.
    3. +2
      25 September 2024 18: 44
      As far as I know, and this was confirmed by the guide of the Sevastopol panorama, due to the hustle and bustle, not all the ships had time to remove their guns; some were sunk with the guns.

      The funniest thing is that the enemy couldn't break into the bay even without our fleet, the coastal batteries wouldn't let them. Why the hell sink them, take them further into the bay and let them stand there, scaring the enemy, like the steam frigates "Vladimir" and "Khersones" did, which even left the bay.

      What's even funnier is that the monument to the submarines became a symbol of the city, like, well done, keep up the good work. And they did. "Varyag" with "Koreyets", "Steregushchiy", the entire fleet again in 1914...

      Until we tear down this symbol of shame, the Black Sea Fleet will have no success. Yes
      1. 0
        25 September 2024 21: 12
        Well, yes, and the masts of battleships are not an obstacle, sit on one and go and get lost. I agree with you that the decision is controversial, but I can't say which one would be correct.
        1. +1
          25 September 2024 22: 56
          Well, yes, and the masts of battleships are not an obstacle, sit on one and go and get lost. I agree with you that the decision is controversial, but I can't say which one would be correct.

          Funny. Imagine you are at the entrance to Sevastopol Bay. 2 options.
          1. Sunken masts.
          2. Full-fledged ships with guns...
          1. 0
            26 September 2024 06: 53
            Only in fact the unappreciated assault from the sea was repelled in exactly this way, it is not clear why we call it an attack from the sea. The enemy never entered in fact, Lyons tried on the battleship Agamemnon, but two 64-pound cannonballs cooled his head, not everyone can withstand that in the side.
            Now, as for the decision itself, yes, it is controversial, but we had our own experience of destroying the Turks in the bays, now you also find it funny? Moreover, this experience was had in particular by Captain Nakhimov, Lieutenant Kornilov and Midshipman Istomin, who saw the death of the Turks from one ship.
            1. 0
              26 September 2024 09: 08
              Now, as for the decision itself, yes, it is controversial, but we had our own experience of destroying the Turks in the bays, now you also find it funny? Moreover, this experience was had in particular by Captain Nakhimov, Lieutenant Kornilov and Midshipman Istomin, who saw the death of the Turks from one ship.

              No, it's not funny. It's sad. The fleet itself, even standing in the bay, even sailing, is annoying.
              And so the enemy did what he wanted at sea.
              There are no complaints about Nakhimov and Kornilov. If even now there are people who consider this self-destruction to be correct, then what can we say about those times...
              1. -1
                26 September 2024 09: 19
                It is clear that ships are not built to be sunk, but Sevastopol was not taken from the sea and this is an indisputable fact, whether you like this decision or not is secondary. What did the allies achieve by sitting near Sevastopol? They survived a difficult winter, buried a lot of people who died of cholera, played pranks in Feodosia, Kerch and on the Sea of ​​Azov, there was damage there, grain in Mariupol... They imitated an attack on Perekop, ours did not give in.
                What operational problem did their fleet solve? By the way, they also disarmed some of the ships at the beginning of the siege, not completely of course, and in the Battle of Balaklava we captured the British guns, which was a resounding slap in the face to the Royal Navy. Because of it, Raglan killed the light cavalry brigade, they just galloped a little in the wrong direction, so that you understand, I was there and more than once, on all the battlefields of the Crimean near Sevastopol and not even once.
                1. +1
                  26 September 2024 09: 24
                  It is clear that ships are not built to be sunk, but Sevastopol was not taken from the sea and this is an indisputable fact, whether you like this decision or not is secondary. What did the allies achieve by sitting near Sevastopol? They survived a difficult winter, buried a lot of people who died of cholera, played pranks in Feodosia, Kerch and on the Sea of ​​Azov, there was damage there, grain in Mariupol... They imitated an attack on Perekop, ours did not give in.
                  What operational problem did their fleet solve? By the way, they also disarmed some of the ships at the beginning of the siege, not completely of course, and in the Battle of Balaklava we captured the British guns, which was a resounding slap in the face to the Royal Navy. Because of it, Raglan killed the light cavalry brigade, they just galloped a little in the wrong direction, so that you understand, I was there and more than once, on all the battlefields of the Crimean near Sevastopol and not even once.

                  This is all talk for the benefit of the poor.

                  Sevastopol was eventually TAKEN and this is an indisputable fact, whether you like this decision or not is secondary. And we lost the Crimean War.

                  So we need to learn lessons and try not to repeat the mistakes. At least not to make "correct decisions" out of them. hi
                  1. +1
                    26 September 2024 09: 39
                    This is not a conversation, but an analysis of the conflict. If you didn’t understand, when I lived here, I knew as a kid that we had lost the war. Maybe you didn’t know much about it at all back then, I emphasize, maybe.
                    And I can't help but insert a counter-flick, we took Kars. And now tell me, apart from the heavy moral defeat, what other successes did the Allied forces achieve? And it's not a question of what I'm rooting for, I can write you not just an article, but a book about our talentless decisions and actions, including taking a swing at Nakhimov, he had an interesting trick before the Battle of Inkerman.
                    Of course, Sevastopol was taken, I am not making excuses like a number of local historians that the Northern one remained, but let's admit that the enemy's blitzkrieg was disrupted, including by the above-mentioned battle. The enemy was still caught, he almost took the 4th bastion and something had to be done. So they did it, yes, they lost, but they forced the enemy to spend the winter.
                    And if you think that winter in Crimea is easy, you are deeply mistaken, humidity has a very strong effect. The Turks, inconspicuous but nevertheless full-fledged participants in the conflict, were the first to bury their dead naked. And then the British. It was not an easy walk.
                    1. +1
                      27 September 2024 08: 26
                      This is not a conversation, but an analysis of the conflict. If you didn’t understand, when I lived here, I knew as a kid that we had lost the war. Maybe you didn’t know much about it at all back then, I emphasize, maybe.
                      And I can't help but insert a counter-flick, we took Kars. And now tell me, apart from the heavy moral defeat, what other successes did the Allied forces achieve? And it's not a question of what I'm rooting for, I can write you not just an article, but a book about our talentless decisions and actions, including taking a swing at Nakhimov, he had an interesting trick before the Battle of Inkerman.
                      Of course, Sevastopol was taken, I am not making excuses like a number of local historians that the Northern one remained, but let's admit that the enemy's blitzkrieg was disrupted, including by the above-mentioned battle. The enemy was still caught, he almost took the 4th bastion and something had to be done. So they did it, yes, they lost, but they forced the enemy to spend the winter.
                      And if you think that winter in Crimea is easy, you are deeply mistaken, humidity has a very strong effect. The Turks, inconspicuous but nevertheless full-fledged participants in the conflict, were the first to bury their dead naked. And then the British. It was not an easy walk.

                      Are you kidding me? Have you read the Paris Peace Treaty of 1865?
                      The Balkans had to be forgotten, Kars had to be returned, the fleet to the Black Sea Fleet - goodbye. It's good that there were no contributions.
                      So yeah, it wasn't an easy walk... wink
                      1. 0
                        27 September 2024 16: 39
                        What jokes are there? The whole of Crimea was in the plans; no one was going to sit near Sevastopol for 314 days.
  2. +3
    25 September 2024 06: 11
    Schroeder, the author of the Totleben monument, was himself a participant in that heroic defense of Sevastopol. For me personally, on the Millennium of Russia monument Schroeder seemed to not have room for all the figures deserving special significance and honor for Russia, and he moved them to Sevastopol to the monuments to Totleben, Nakhimov and Kornilov.
  3. +6
    25 September 2024 07: 15
    Menshikov certainly made a lot of tragic mistakes, but his decision not to lock the entire army in Sevastopol, I think, was correct: he blocked the road to Perekop and threatened to strike from the rear at those besieging Sevastopol.
    How he took advantage of this is another question....
    1. +5
      25 September 2024 07: 29
      Yeah. We study history poorly. During the Great Patriotic War, almost everything repeated itself. Only the names of the talentless people are different, but the heroism of ordinary people is the same.
    2. +1
      25 September 2024 08: 16
      Yes, it was not necessary to lock it down, but to transfer additional forces, fortunately it was almost a year, but ours sat and watched as Sevastopol defended itself. Where has it been seen that a landing force, with supplies from the metropolis, beats the land army of a huge country?
      1. +5
        25 September 2024 10: 49
        In the 19th century, Sevastopol could not receive reinforcements of people and supplies in full due to problems with logistics. Everything was on carts with oxen from central Russia. Supplies by sea to the enemy went faster. This was repeated again in the RYaV
      2. +4
        25 September 2024 15: 40
        Quote: Victor Sergeev
        Where has it been seen that a landing force, with supplies from the metropolis, can defeat the ground army of a huge country?

        In Manchuria. smile

        If we take the Crimean War, then for the same ammunition the delivery distance increased as the arsenals were depleted from 300 to 900 miles.
        From Perekop to Simferopol the convoy usually took a month. Personnel from Moscow to Sevastopol - three months.
        The road was unbearably bad, especially on the banks of the Belbek River; the mud stood above the wheel hubs, so the cart raked it up, and therefore, despite the six tall horses harnessed to it, we moved at a pace... Dead oxen covered in mud were lying around; when my cart ran over them, I could barely stay in it. When it was frosty, the mud froze somewhat only on the surface, and then travel became completely impossible. This was the only communication between our besieged city and the internal provinces of Russia.
        © A.I. Delvig

        On the other hand, there were well-established sea transportations. Which, however, later ran into the "last mile" - incompetent management of the Balaklava port (bureaucracy + delays in work; it got to the point that by the time of unloading the cargo could rot) and a broken road to the "end consumer". For the British and French, the miserable ten miles from Balaklava to the front line in the autumn-spring period turned into a practically insurmountable obstacle - unloaded supplies could not be delivered from the warehouse to the positions for weeks, as a result of which the soldiers at the front had to switch to crackers despite the availability of meat and vegetables in the warehouses.
        But for them it was only fifteen miles. Not the whole way.
      3. 0
        25 September 2024 21: 09
        Huge experience of colonial wars, their logistics were also lousy, but still a little better, this one won a little. I agree that the operation is unique. But the Russian troops could have been pushed, and the question was what to feed them, for example, the cavalry, which could have created difficulties for the allies.
    3. +2
      25 September 2024 08: 36
      And my neighbor, the author of a number of works on Krymskaya, Sergei Viktorovich Chennyk, will agree with you. I don’t know of any more sensible works on it.
    4. +1
      26 September 2024 06: 55
      How did I miss your comment, of course the decision was correct. Moreover, the allies were forced to split their forces into a siege corps and an observation corps, which had to expect an attack from outside at any moment.
  4. +1
    25 September 2024 07: 30
    As far as I remember, the quantitative advantage of the Allied fleet was not overwhelming, but in technical terms, Russia and its fleet were already far behind Europe.
    1. 0
      25 September 2024 22: 49
      Quote: S.Z.
      but in technical terms, Russia and its fleet were already far behind Europe.

      There was no particular lag at that time. The guns were no better, the ships were generally the same. Several low-power steam engines on the Allied battleships did not create an overwhelming advantage, they often could not even move the battleship against the wind. Both we and the Allies had light steamships. The sinking of their fleet looks like some kind of panic reaction to the appearance of the English. They were not so afraid of the Turks, they beat them without any problems.
  5. 0
    25 September 2024 07: 50
    They rushed to Odessa, but there were no picks there either, and the shovels were sent only on October 3rd by horse-drawn carts, and they arrived on October 17th.

    It's something impossible...almost like the TV series "No Way Back".
  6. 0
    25 September 2024 07: 57
    Malakhov Kurgan was turned into an arboretum, trees were planted with signs like "Osya was here". Therefore, it does not feel like a sacred place where heroes died. Probably, it was possible to leave this place untouched, at least after the second defense of Sevastopol. There is a lot of pathos, but no feelings.
    In France there is a monument city Oradour-sur-Glane, the French Khatyn, where absolutely everything was left in the same state as the SS from Der Führer did to it.
  7. +5
    25 September 2024 08: 21
    The Anglo-French expeditionary forces, which had suffered heavy losses, were in no hurry to storm Sevastopol. But it was clear that they would come soon.

    They were in a hurry, they fully intended to storm Sevastopol on the move with a combined attack from land and sea. No one was going to sit near Sevastopol. The question arose in the Northern fortification, there is still a ditch and a rampart there, the rampart is thinner and the ditch is even reinforced with stone. The fence is only younger, there will be a military unit there now.
    So the Northern fortification is the first obstacle, and the second is the sunken ships, many do not understand such a controversial decision, I also think that ships are not built to be sunk by themselves, and with guns and gunpowder, contrary to popular belief. This is the second line of flooding that was somehow unloaded.
    And this first round of flooding thwarted the plan of a double strike. The masts of battleships and frigates did not become a palisade, but they would have interfered with maneuvering, and the risk was that on the next mast during maneuvering one would get stuck on it and become an excellent prey for coastal defense batteries, both casemated and embanked.

    So the first assault on Sevastopol did not take place on June 6, 1855, we have an unknown defeat in the Crimean War, on the Chernaya River, because of which Sevastopol fell, allowing the siege corps to be united with the observation corps. The external threat that Menshikov created ceased to exist, and Sevastopol was taken.
    Our guys overslept, there were already about a hundred meters between the positions, well maybe a little more, they ran that distance without any bugles and attacked our guys who were having dinner with bayonets, they learned the routine. All the bastions were attacked, but the main attack was on Malakhov Kurgan, in a few seconds the French ran the necessary distance and without any bugles or drums. They failed to drive the French out of Malashka. All the other attacks on the bastions were undertaken with that goal in mind, so as not to transfer forces to Malakhov. Those who were there saw that it was a commanding height.
  8. +1
    25 September 2024 08: 26
    Great article! Thank you, Alexander.
  9. +1
    25 September 2024 08: 49
    Quote: Alexander Salenko
    The battleship Agamemnon had almost passed between the masts, but received 2 64-pound cannonballs from the Mikhailovskaya battery, which, I’m too lazy to count, is no less than 25 kg, for comparison, the fortress walls collapsed at 11 kg, and that was the end of the passage through the barrier.


    The main threat to Sevastopol was not even battleships, but transports with landing troops. It became obvious to the enemy that it would not be possible to land troops directly in the harbor, which thwarted the plan for a lightning-fast capture of the city.
    So the Russians' haste was entirely justified. Time was more valuable at this stage than the obsolete guns that had not yet been removed from the ships.
    1. -1
      25 September 2024 14: 11
      You just don't know Sevastopol. And where to land troops there? Only after the defeat of our Black Sea Fleet. Which didn't happen at that time.
      1. 0
        25 September 2024 16: 26
        Quote: Alexander Salenko
        You just don't know Sevastopol. Where would they land troops there?

        Where? Kamyshovaya Bay, Kazachya Bay. Streletskaya Bay. The coast is more gentle. Small sandy beaches. And of course in the valley of the Belbek River (Lyubimovka), Uchkuyevka. Huge sandy beaches. And there, on the Northern (Belbek) side, where Menshikov's troops stood... Balaklava remains. The valley of Zolotaya Balka and the exit along the bed (valley) of the Chernaya River to Inkerman. Which is what the British did. The French landed in Kazachya Bay and Streletskaya Bay...
        1. -1
          25 September 2024 16: 29
          The French landed in Yevpatoria, and I know what Kazachka and Streletskaya are, and I saw them, but did you see them? I live 80 km from them.
          1. +1
            25 September 2024 16: 31
            Quote: Alexander Salenko
            The French landed in Yevpatoria, and I know what Kazachka and Streletskaya are, and I saw them, but did you see them? I live 80 km from them.

            Actually, I was born and live in Sevastopol.
            1. -1
              25 September 2024 16: 48
              Well, excuse me, I just know Sevastopol better than some Sevastopol residents, it’s like I don’t know the local history museum in my Simferopol.
    2. 0
      26 September 2024 22: 29
      Quote: Illanatol
      The main threat to Sevastopol was not even battleships, but transports with landing troops.

      The trick is that the landing force was transported on warships. Including battleships, especially French ones.
  10. BAI
    -1
    25 September 2024 09: 07
    Without Sevastopol it is impossible to have a fleet in the Black Sea

    but now we have Sevastopol, but we don’t have a fleet
    1. +1
      25 September 2024 09: 26
      There was no aviation back then, and today the Black Sea Fleet is less important than it was then.
    2. +1
      25 September 2024 14: 12
      Yes, he does exist, I see him regularly.
    3. -1
      25 September 2024 16: 30
      The minus is not mine but deserved, what is the 23rd corps doing there in Ukraine? These are naval forces. And no need to fool around.
    4. +3
      25 September 2024 16: 30
      Quote: BAI
      Without Sevastopol it is impossible to have a fleet in the Black Sea

      but now we have Sevastopol, but we don’t have a fleet

      Who told you this? The fleet has been removed from the attack of the Storms and Atacamas. But in Sevastopol there remain some ships of the fleet, naval air defense, coastal units, a marine brigade, coastal batteries, aviation... and many other things that are not worth writing about.
      1. +1
        1 October 2024 15: 16
        I hear it working with my own ears, and since I drive a lot, I can’t say how the rear component works, but I can guarantee that they are running around, they probably don’t just guzzle diesel fuel, they don’t want to drive around on women.
  11. +3
    25 September 2024 11: 25
    Nakhimov, although he had seniority in service, without the slightest hesitation in those terrible days handed over the issues of organizing the defense to Kornilov.

    Kornilov was the chief of staff of the Black Sea Fleet, and Nakhimov, at that time, was the commander of the Sevastopol port. What seniority in service does the author write about?
  12. -1
    25 September 2024 13: 38
    Part of the Greek battalion broke through into the mountains and repelled the attack of the Crimean Tatars...
    Again... Again 25! And now, if something happens to Natasha in Crimea, God forbid, it will be twenty-five again with these guys. We must definitely keep an eye on those of them who are in power one way or another! IMHO, of course. Thank you very much for the article!!!
  13. -1
    25 September 2024 17: 32
    Monument to General E. I. Totleben on the Historical Boulevard in Sevastopol. Created in 1903, opened on August 5 (18), 1909, restored due to damage during the Great Patriotic War in 1945. Authors of the monument: amateur artist, General A. A. Bilderling and sculptor I. N. Schroeder

    It is interesting that the monument to the main hero of the defense of Sevastopol, Admiral Nakhimov, is not mentioned.

    And it is understandable why - I would have to say that this is a replica, and the real monument was demolished by the Bolsheviks in the 1920s (they put a monument to Lenin on its pedestal). fool ).

    The Asclepius of the Four Admirals in the Vladimir Cathedral was opened in 4, looted, the remains of the Heroes were destroyed and mixed with the earth, and the cathedral itself became a warehouse for the PU.
    1. -1
      1 October 2024 15: 26
      And to follow up by saying that they restored it again, do you lack conscience? And don't blab about the crypt, are you surprised by the looters? Well, look at yourself, are you a pillar of the nobility? Well, why didn't you educate the crazy men on what is right and what is not? As for the Vladimir Cathedral, there are two of them in Sevastopol. So it was eaten away by German shells. You feel sorry for the temple, so it will survive, but I feel sorry for the fighters. Oh my, who defended this Sevastopol. Now the walls there are plastered over, but the shells' impact is visible in the basement, which indicates that there were battles there, come and see the potholes left on the columns, for example.
      The temple itself is located on the Central City Hill and it will be difficult to miss it when traveling there for tourist purposes. The fact that they opened something there, so I was invited to be a grave digger and is the regime to blame here, or do you want to blow your nose? So any action gives birth to a reaction.
      1. 0
        Yesterday, 11: 10
        Quote: Alexander Salenko
        And to add that they restored it again, do you lack conscience?

        Don't you have the conscience to say WHAT lies there now, instead of the remains of the admirals?
        Quote: Alexander Salenko
        And don't blab about the crypt, are you surprised by the looters? Well, look at yourself, are you a pillar of nobility? Well, why didn't they educate these crazy men about what is right and what is not?

        The REGIME destroyed the tombs of the admirals, Minin, Pozharsky, Bagration, etc., etc., and not the peasants,
        Quote: Alexander Salenko
        . What they opened there, so they invited me to be a grave digger and is the regime to blame here, or do you want to blow your nose??

        fool What nonsense? Can't you speak Russian? fool
        1. 0
          Yesterday, 11: 20
          What are you trying to put pressure on my emotions? Well, look at those who are bothered by Lenin in the Mausoleum. And if something was done out of stupidity, and it was done, then maybe it was revenge for serfdom? I myself am a descendant of serfs and if I respect heroes, then in general how the nobility became brutalized can be read in the nobles themselves. The peasants destroyed, they were not educated, there was no one to do it, there were no schools. And schools do not interfere with frying something on the Eternal Flame.
          Look at yourself in the mirror and tell me that you are from the pillars of nobility, or any kind? It will probably turn out that your parents were taught to read by the damned communists.
          1. 0
            Yesterday, 11: 30
            Quote: Alexander Salenko
            What are you trying to put pressure on my emotions?

            are your emotions on me? belay
            Quote: Alexander Salenko
            Well, look at those who are bothered by Lenin in the Mausoleum.

            not give a damn about
            Quote: Alexander Salenko
            And if something was done out of stupidity, and it was done, then maybe it was revenge for serfdom?

            No, it's the stupidity and Russophobia of the authorities
            Quote: Alexander Salenko
            became brutalized

            they were them - the destroyers of Russian memory and glory
            Quote: Alexander Salenko
            Look at yourself in the mirror and tell me that you are from the pillars of nobility, or any kind? It will probably turn out that your parents were taught to read by the damned communists.

            Yeah, 7 billion people were taught to read by... communists.
            By the way, Russia taught comedians to read
            1. 0
              Yesterday, 11: 34
              Well, just dig into your roots. Or if I got an education, it was because of my grandfather Lenin, should I have twisted the cows' tails? Well, show me the cows, maybe I would have twisted them. e: if you don't know, Russia buys bull sperm
              1. 0
                Yesterday, 12: 28
                Quote: Alexander Salenko
                Well, just dig into your roots. Or if I got an education, it was because of my grandfather Lenin, should I have twisted the cows' tails?

                write in Russian, I don't understand
                1. 0
                  Yesterday, 14: 54
                  Because he is a writer and not a reader. Like in that joke.
                  1. 0
                    Today, 07: 48
                    Quote: Alexander Salenko
                    Because he is a writer and not a reader.

                    It's clear that you don't read what you write. So do it, otherwise you're talking incomprehensible nonsense.
                    1. 0
                      Today, 09: 11
                      Andrey, I have about the Crimean War, I don't like to show off, they consult, and I was at the sites of all the battles near Sevastopol and not even once, And who are you? I'm not talking about who in life, but in this topic?
                      1. 0
                        Today, 09: 40
                        Andrey, I have about the Crimean War, I don’t like to show off, they consult, and I was at the sites of all the battles near Sevastopol and not even once

                        what does this have to do with this nonsense
                        Quote: Alexander Salenko
                        Well, just dig into your roots. Or if I got an education, it was because of my grandfather Lenin, should I have twisted the cows' tails?
                        ?
  14. -3
    25 September 2024 18: 57
    "Heroic"? - and nothing that there were more defenders than besiegers? - about the ratio of artillery, especially taking into account the large calibers taken from ships, it is not even decent to talk - and most importantly - Sevastopol was not completely surrounded and throughout the "siege" had free communication with the army
    1. +2
      25 September 2024 19: 42
      Is it okay that you make things up a little?
      1. -1
        26 September 2024 18: 40
        Correct it and don't just shake the air
        1. 0
          26 September 2024 19: 01
          Or maybe give a series of lectures? Well, for example, about artillery, well, first of all, and then they brought in siege weapons, as for the guns taken from the ships, rumors about this are greatly exaggerated and they sank with gunpowder and guns, ropes and other gear. Ropes, for example, protected the gunners from snipers, organized sniping was first used there.
          As for who was bigger there, I have figures for Alma, and the Allied forces were almost twice as numerous as the Russians, where do you get your figures from? I suspect not, because even the windbag Hibbert doesn't say that, right above my head on the shelf is his book dedicated to Raglan.
          History does not tolerate the subjunctive mood, but tell me as an artist to an artist: who prevented the allies from storming the Northern fortification? I would not call it worthless, as can often be seen in literature, a normal ditch. A bit of the rampart has been preserved, but this is not at all what Totleben later built.
          The stupidity of the allies' action to bypass the Northern Bay is difficult to explain, there is only one excuse. Menshikov's maneuver to Bakhchisarai, when the allies did not lose the defeated but not routed army after Alma, he opposed the allied troops between the fortress and external forces, which ultimately doomed the allies to a long siege.
          I have a lot of questions about my namesake, both by name and patronymic. But he was not a worthless person in military affairs. The system was limping, which resulted in revolutions.
          1. -1
            26 September 2024 19: 03
            What is this stream of uncontrollable nonsense?
            1. -1
              26 September 2024 19: 05
              And first, would you visit at least one battlefield, not to mention reading books there? And then open your mouth.
              1. 0
                26 September 2024 19: 10
                Do you have to tell everyone that you're an idiot?
                1. 0
                  26 September 2024 19: 19
                  I won't knock on the admins, but you don't know the Crimean War and the issue isn't about dates and battles, and I was on all the fields near Sevastopol. Do you know what the problem is with modern military men when they get into history? With rare exceptions, they don't know it and my neighbor, Afghanistan veteran Sergei Chennyk, is the rarest exception.
                  And, so that his next book would come out, my colleagues and I chipped in for it, it's expensive. And what have you read? Well, it's just funny to me to hear from a couch strategist something that he hasn't even seen on TV, I'm on the subject of the terrain. I've crawled around every Sevastopol bastion, or rather what's left of it, and you? Does your pride not allow you to shut up?
                  If it doesn’t allow it, tell me what I said wrong; there is a system of academic dispute.
                  And you just have a stupid contempt for listening to these civilians. Only the military did not take up military history, civilian historians had to plow, with rare exceptions. So I am definitely not an idiot, because I make money on the Crimean War, a stupid person.
  15. 0
    25 September 2024 19: 40
    The Anglo-French expeditionary forces, which had suffered heavy losses, were in no hurry to storm Sevastopol.
    Dear author, we were in a hurry, with a double blow from land and sea, but the sinking of the ships disrupted the last event.
  16. -2
    25 September 2024 19: 52
    Quote: BAI
    Without Sevastopol it is impossible to have a fleet in the Black Sea

    but now we have Sevastopol, but we don’t have a fleet

    And we don't have Sevastopol as a naval base now. When we return the base to Sevastopol, then we will be able to restore the fleet.
  17. +2
    25 September 2024 23: 03
    Kornilov objected to the withdrawal of the army from Sevastopol. But he could not persuade Menshikov. He believed that his task was to maintain contact with Russia and prevent the complete siege of Sevastopol, since his army created a flank threat to the troops of the Western coalition. At the same time, he even withdrew the entire cavalry

    Menshikov is absolutely right. Why lock a huge army under siege? What to feed it? The pearl about the cavalry is especially good, if the enemy surrounds the city from all sides - what to feed the horses? The article also states that there is not enough food.

    And in general, Sevastopol is important only as a naval base; after the sinking of the fleet, there is no point in destroying the army to protect empty berths. It is difficult to justify this self-sinking.
  18. 0
    26 September 2024 08: 34
    Quote: Alexander Salenko
    You just don't know Sevastopol. And where to land troops there? Only after the defeat of our Black Sea Fleet. Which didn't happen at that time.


    That's why it didn't happen, because the Black Sea Fleet itself sank it. Otherwise, it would have been destroyed right in the harbor. What's the problem with attacking ships at anchor? Well, the Russians didn't have a chance in the open.
    They would have found a place to land. Although I myself believe that landing right in the city is not the best option. Land the troops at a reasonable distance and provoke the Russians to fight in the open, near the coastline. In these conditions, the enemy could make maximum use of the advantage in artillery (and naval too) and small arms. It would have been wiser for the Russians to avoid large battles in the open, and to use the tactics of surprise attacks in small groups (using cavalry) with a quick retreat, taking into account the terrain. In short, to practice fire contact at short distances, at which smoothbore guns were quite effective.
  19. -1
    26 September 2024 08: 36
    Quote: Saxahorse
    And in general, Sevastopol is important only as a naval base; after the sinking of the fleet, there is no point in destroying the army in order to protect empty berths.


    In short, the whole Crimea had to be given up. After all, that's what the enemy came for. The enemy needed not only Sevastopol, but the entire peninsula.
    The city is not only about docks.
  20. -1
    26 September 2024 08: 45
    Quote: Arzt
    Funny. Imagine you are at the entrance to Sevastopol Bay. 2 options.
    1. Sunken masts.
    2. Full-fledged ships with guns...


    The first option is definitely less desirable. Since the masts are in the fairway, it is difficult to get around them. And the masts are capable of causing more damage to the bottoms (presumably wooden at that time) of ships than the outdated guns, which are inferior both in the destructive power of shells/nuclei and in the real range of their own ship artillery they are capable of causing to the sides, which have armor.
  21. 0
    26 September 2024 08: 50
    Quote: BAI
    but now we have Sevastopol, but we don’t have a fleet


    The Russian Federation has a fleet. But Ukraine does not have a fleet. It provides housing for fish and crabs.
  22. 0
    26 September 2024 11: 22
    After Alma, Menshikov did not know what the enemy would do. On September 12 (24), he assumed that the enemy wanted to cut off Sevastopol and all of Crimea from Perekop, that is, from the rest of Russia. And he decided to prevent this, preserving freedom of maneuver.
    No, author, Menshikov did everything according to the Vauban system, entrusting the defense of the fortress to the garrison and threatening from the rear by forcing the allied forces to divide their forces into a siege corps and an observation corps. One can argue about the effectiveness of Vauban's ideas, but at that time they were accepted by many and in this case implemented.
  23. 0
    27 September 2024 09: 17
    Quote: Senior Sailor
    The trick is that the landing force was transported on warships. Including battleships, especially French ones.


    Both on combat and transport aircraft.

    "The landing took place in Varna (a total of 28000 French, 24000 English, 8000 Turks with 3000 horses were embarked). The troops were distributed on 15 battleships (including 4 screw ships), 5 sailing frigates, 35 military steamers, 80 sailing transports and 40 provision ships. In addition, about 150 commercial ships were involved in the operation, many of them steamships. The escorts were 12 English battleships and the same number of frigates."

    https://wiki.lesta.ru/ru/Navy:%D0%A0%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%A7%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%A4%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%82_%D0%B2_%D0%BC%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%85_%D1%81%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F%D1%85_%D0%9A%D1%80%D1%8B%D0%BC%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B9%D0%BD%D1%8B
  24. 0
    1 October 2024 16: 44
    Today is a repeat of yesterday... And it's scary to think about the day to come.