A brick on socialism

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A brick on socialism
Brick is one of the main materials in construction: it was, is and should be


This is a continuation of the theme of sabotage in the Soviet national economy, in this case in construction and the production of building materials, as interconnected industries. This time the focus is on brick.



Brick was one of the most common materials in construction at that time, due to its versatility and suitability for almost any construction, and in this role it even surpassed concrete. For example, the People's Commissariat for Construction of the USSR performed 1939 thousand cubic meters of brickwork and laid 1 thousand cubic meters of concrete in 532,1. In 1, it performed 337,1 thousand cubic meters of brickwork and laid 1940 thousand tons of concrete.

In enclosing structures, that is, walls, partitions and some types of load-bearing structures, brick clearly dominated. In industrial construction, brick is various furnaces and chimneys, without which few enterprises could do.

Each major new building required a lot of bricks. For example, the new metallurgical plant in Stalinsk (Novokuznetsk), consisting of four blast furnaces, 12 open-hearth furnaces, a blooming mill and two rolling mills, 5 coke batteries, required 1 thousand cubic meters of concrete and 600 million pieces of brick (180 thousand cubic meters of brickwork).

However, with this very brick and especially its production, some strange things were constantly happening, which even forced people to talk openly about sabotage in the brick industry, about which an article once appeared in the “Construction Newspaper”.

Brick factories were built and not built


A lot of bricks were needed, and the demand for them grew. For example, 1 thousand cubic meters of brickwork, which the construction trusts of the USSR People's Commissariat of Construction made in 532,1 - this is 1939 million pieces of brick, at the rate of 612 pieces per cubic meter of masonry.

This new department, formed in May 1939, carried out only a part of the construction work related to large-scale industrial construction. Small-scale industrial construction, housing and public utility construction, which also required bricks in large quantities, was distributed among other union and republican people's commissariats.

According to the assessment of the Main Construction Industry Directorate of the People's Commissariat of Heavy Industry - the main construction organization in the USSR until the beginning of 1939 - at the end of the third five-year plan, that is, in 1942, it would be necessary to carry out a huge volume of construction, including 14 million cubic meters of brickwork or 5,6 billion pieces of brick.

However, with the huge construction program, the shortage of bricks was growing sharply already by the beginning of the third five-year plan. In 1937, brick factories were short of 2,8 billion pieces, and in 1938 – 3,4 billion pieces of bricks.

At the beginning of the first five-year plan, there were 943 large brick factories and about 12-14 thousand small brick factories in the USSR, for which it was difficult to collect specific statistics. Of course, new construction required powerful and well-equipped brick factories, so the creation of a new brick industry began in the first five-year plan.

In 1930, 29 new brick factories were founded with an estimated cost of 146,2 million rubles for 1,18 billion bricks per year.

The same thing happened again story, as with the construction of cement factories. New and well-equipped brick factories were built, built, built... but they were never completed. In 1939, 100 million rubles were spent on these enterprises, but only 7 factories with a capacity of 290 million bricks or 24,4% of the total capacity were put into operation.

Technological gaps


An interesting phenomenon was observed at operating brick factories – a gap between production capacities. In order for the enterprise to operate rhythmically, the production capacity of one workshop making blanks must correspond to the production capacity of another workshop doing final processing.

In a brick factory that uses the plastic molding method, there are four main sections: raw material preparation (moistening with water or steam, mixing until a homogeneous mass is obtained), green brick molding (cutting a clay strip into blanks using a machine), drying (green brick must be dried to 6-8% moisture, otherwise it will crack during firing), and firing in a kiln.


Cutting bricks from clay strip. And that's how all the billions of bricks are made - by hand.

In 1939, the capacity of the kilns operating in the USSR brick factories was 4,8 billion pieces, and the capacity of the dryers was 3,5 billion pieces, or 27% less. Due to such an "organization" of production, roughly a third of the kilns were idle. This, by the way, was 1,3 billion pieces of brick, twice as much as the People's Commissariat of Construction used.


Drying from the inside. It was just a wooden shed. What was the problem with building more of the same sheds?

It cannot be said that the problem was not taken care of. It was possible to solve the problem by switching to a dry molding method, in which clay with a moisture content of 6-7% is ground into powder, from which a special press under pressure forms green brick, immediately ready for firing.

In 1936, an order was placed for 180 dry-molding presses. These presses were manufactured, delivered to brick factories, but... the vast majority were not assembled and launched. At the Taganrog brick factory, a dry-pressing shop was built by... only 9 workers. Perhaps, comments are unnecessary here.

Ruined enterprises


Many good brick factories were brought to such a state that they mainly produced defective products, completely useless. One of the Ural brick factories, built in 1930, initially produced excellent products - tripoli brick. This is a brick formed from tripoli, a loose sedimentary rock, mainly silica, quartz and feldspar, similar in appearance to chalk. Unlike red brick, tripoli brick has a much lower thermal conductivity and was used for thermal insulation of underground pipelines, industrial furnaces or for filling brickwork.

Soon the plant began to go through chaos, 30 directors changed over the course of ten years of operation, and since 1935, tripoli bricks began to be produced under-fired. The low-quality bricks were very similar to normal ones, but they quickly fell apart in masonry. Then the plant was transferred to the production of red clay bricks, but in 1938, the plant produced 78% of third-grade bricks, which were actually unsuitable for masonry. The plant, which belonged to the local industry, was eventually pushed off to the People's Commissariat of Construction, leaving it to decide the fate of the ruined enterprise.


Unloading bricks from dryers for transportation to the kiln. During the production process, all the bricks are visible, and it is almost impossible to spoil them unnoticed. Sabotage in the brick industry was committed openly.

There were many similar examples of factories that produced defective products.

Some brick factories produced such a clay mass from their kilns that customers had difficulty selecting 20-25% of bricks that were even slightly suitable for masonry. Raw materials and fuel (approximately 1 kg of coal were used to fire 250 bricks) were wasted.

Under-removal of bricks


It is also possible to distribute the bricks incorrectly. There were several brick factories around Moscow that supplied Moscow construction sites, including the Cheryomushkinsky brick factory. In May 1939, its sites were so full of finished products (3 million bricks) that there was no place to store new batches.

It turned out that the manager of Mosstroysnabsbyt, Comrade Vituro, gave orders for bricks to those construction sites that had not yet begun work and had no need for bricks. For example, Mosstroytrest received an order for 1,1 million bricks, but took out only 79 thousand. Or Moszhilstroy had an order for 2 million bricks, but took out 557 thousand. The manager did not give orders for bricks to those construction sites where work was already in full swing. The plant did not have the right to release bricks under orders to other consumers, even those in dire need, and was forced to stop production due to the impossibility of storing new batches of bricks somewhere.

But then it turned out that some Moscow construction sites were littered with bricks that lay around without any accounting, like on the sites of the 2nd construction department of the Mospromstroy trust, which had accumulated building materials in its warehouses for more than four months of work.

Ban advanced masonry techniques


Well, if there is a shortage of bricks, then you can save them with rational methods of laying. Even before the beginning of the first five-year plan, engineer N. S. Popov invented a system of laying in which external and internal outer rows, horizontal ties were laid out of bricks, and the space between them was filled with lightweight concrete or concrete inserts.

This system was tested and in 1932 was recommended by the People's Commissariat of Public Utilities of the RSFSR for wide use in the construction of buildings up to 15 meters high or the upper floors of multi-story buildings.

The Popov system saved 40% of bricks for laying external walls and 20% for laying internal partitions. It would seem that this should have been immediately applied. However, Glavstroyproekt prohibited the use of lightweight masonry of the Popov system and similar ones in industrial and even domestic buildings, and even took the trouble to compile a list of structures in which lightweight masonry was categorically not allowed.

Although Popov's masonry was included in the technical specifications of the Construction Committee under the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR, and a separate instruction was even issued for it in 1939, nevertheless, in 1940, 150 thousand cubic meters of masonry were laid using this method, or 6% of the total volume.

The iron order under Stalin, alas, is not supported by facts


In general, the same methods as in the cement industry: new plants are built and not completed; the latest equipment, manufactured and delivered, is not installed and not put into operation; excellent enterprises are reduced to the state of botched plants. And this cannot be explained by random circumstances. It is a consequence of decisions made and implemented by someone.

To change 10 directors of a brick factory in 30 years, that is, on average, once a quarter - these are someone's decisions. Moreover, they selected such directors under whom the factory fell apart. Or it was a multi-stage collapse, when each such "temporary worker" destroyed something, and he was quickly transferred to another place. Then in such a mess it will be difficult to figure out, even with the use of a stool, who exactly did what.

The appointment of incompetent people to production is also someone's decision. But this is only one side of the matter.

Someone who knows nothing but wants to do something will learn quickly. If a brick falls apart in the kiln, such a director will read books or talk to technicians, that is, he will figure it out and learn in a few attempts. But if a brick factory has been producing products that are only fit for throwing away for months or even years, like one factory in Leningrad, which was written about in the Stroitelnaya Gazeta, then there is not only incompetence, but also absolute indifference to production. This is the other side of the matter.

Judging by the known facts, there were quite a few such absolutely indifferent people in leadership positions, although they should not be there. As if someone specially selected and promoted them.

This is the story of how saboteurs hit socialism with a brick.

Of course, many people don't like these facts now, especially those who talk about the "iron order" under Stalin. Here it is - this very iron order. This is all of 1939-1940, right after the repressions.

Nevertheless, the most important sectors of the national economy are being destroyed almost openly, the names of the guilty are printed in newspapers, even with the prefix “comrade,” and nothing happens, because the same stories are repeated further.

Where are the immediate arrests and subsequent executions?

The theory of "iron order" under Stalin, alas, is not supported by facts. One "Construction Newspaper" gave enough facts to recognize this theory as ridiculous.

But we have to admit something completely different: the Soviet government and the Communist Party were completely unable to defend themselves against the internal enemy, which was secretly undermining the economic and military power of the country created by this government and the party.
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  1. +9
    29 September 2024 06: 30
    Brick played a strange role in my worldview. In the late 80s, I worked as the chief engineer of a huge construction association, and the shortage of burnt bricks had a strong impact on the implementation of the PGS plans. Some probably remember how it was. A dump truck would come to the construction site and dump the bulk of the bricks in the back of the truck into the mud, as a result of which, at best, half of them would remain intact.
    And so in the fall of 1991 I found myself on a business trip to Belgium. We were brought to the hotel late in the evening and from the window I saw that a new building was being built nearby and naturally early in the morning I went there to see how THEY were building. The first thing that caught my eye was the complete absence of dirt, garbage, broken bricks and frozen pieces of concrete, and even the absence of a fence - the construction site was fenced off with a plastic strip with the inscription: Stop. Danger! And further on there were some cubes about a meter by a meter by a meter, packed in polyethylene. I came closer and was stunned: these were BRICKS on pallets and in packaging!
    And I realized that we will never catch up with the bourgeoisie, at least in construction. recourse
    1. BAI
      +9
      29 September 2024 07: 08
      1.
      A dump truck would arrive at the construction site and dump the bulk of the bricks in the back of the truck into the mud, with the result that at best half of them would remain intact.
      And in the early 70s this was done everywhere, and from the body of a ZIL 130 there were only 3-4 broken bricks. I remember this moment well - we were building a personal garage, every brick was registered - a terrible shortage. And during perestroika the quality sharply went down.
      2.
      further on there were some cubes about a meter by a meter by a meter, packed in polyethylene. I came closer and was stunned: these were BRICKS on pallets and in packaging!
      And I realized that we will never catch up with the bourgeoisie, at least in construction. recourse

      This is now commonplace at all construction sites and building materials stores - factory packaging (at least for expensive types of bricks and blocks)
      1. +5
        29 September 2024 08: 15
        I have a similar experience. True, from the late 90s. Having grown to a slightly conscious age, I decided to make an extension to my house. I ordered sand-lime brick. They were transported in bulk into the back of the truck. Out of three dump trucks, one just gave a mountain of halves when dumped, one was bearable, and one almost all intact. This is about the manufacturer's compliance with the technology. Since then, I have had to buy bricks many times and when buying, I always checked them in one way. You take a brick and drop it from growth height onto any hard surface. If it does not split, then you can take it.
        1. +2
          29 September 2024 08: 42
          In the 80s, sand-lime bricks were loaded in packs. On the platform behind the factory gates, there were packs of bricks in neat rows, there were about 900 pieces in a pack, the weight of a pack was about 3,3 tons. It was impossible to load these bricks at once, it was necessary to wait until they cooled down. A lot of cars were standing in line, they built a lot then not only in cities, but also in rural areas. The so-called center trucks were loaded without a queue. When unloading by dump truck, there was usually little broken brick, and halves of bricks were needed at the construction site.
          1. +2
            29 September 2024 12: 20
            We sent us to the collective farm of the Bobruisk district of putes to practice the KPD factory. The factory on the collective farm laid out ...... with carvings, and sent our detrimental to 26 goals and gave the mastic of the factory alkanavta right shorter the brigade ukh from the film, we did not come from the cores, only the Betonny clubs were standing and then all the local bricks in the Khutinki said 88)) The locals even young girls walked in quilted jackets in cotton pants and rubber boots, December was blowing a wind with snow oak, whether we were brought to the local recreation center RBU brick sand and we began ... to make impressions mass but we built as many as 6 cowsheds
        2. BAI
          +3
          29 September 2024 11: 13
          Take a brick and drop it from the height of growth onto any hard surface. If it does not split, then you can take it.

          This is a method of testing in Tsarist Russia - drop it from a height of 1,5 fathoms onto a dry, trampled clay area. It should remain intact.
          1. +1
            29 September 2024 11: 24
            Quote: BAI
            Take a brick and drop it from the height of growth onto any hard surface. If it does not split, then you can take it.

            This is a method of testing in Tsarist Russia - drop it from a height of 1,5 fathoms onto a dry, trampled clay area. It should remain intact.

            No-no-no. There from three meters onto the compacted soil, and I from two onto the asphalt. A radically more progressive method. laughing In general, my grandmother told me about this method, and her father, my great-grandfather, born in 1902, told her about it. So you are right, the verification method is old, simple and indicative.
          2. +3
            29 September 2024 14: 29
            Quote: BAI
            This is a method of testing in Tsarist Russia - drop it from a height of 1,5 fathoms onto a dry, trampled clay area. It should remain intact.

            I don’t know how they made and unloaded the bricks from which they built the buildings in the village of Medved (the so-called Arakcheev barracks), but even German shells couldn’t take them out.
            Everything is here:
            Barefoot in the Outback: Arakcheev Barracks in the Village of Medved
            https://vnovgorode.ru/vse-novosti/razvlecheniya/7117-po-glubinke-bosikom-arakcheevskie-kazarmy-v-sele-medved.html
            * * *
            And, as it turned out upon examination, it’s all about the composition of the clay and firing.
            There is no need to slander the Soviet government that it could not make bricks. There was no one to train specialists, they were recruited from villages and taught by the method: story, demonstration, practice...Hence the defects. And control by inspection of external appearance cannot be a standard.
            * * *
            And you are still surprised by films where the image of “enemies of the people” was depicted in a characteristic form...
            * * *
            Remember how many mistakes there were in the construction of sports facilities in Sochi for 2014 and in other places for the 2018 World Cup... And this was with the use of professional personnel... And have you heard about flood dams made of sand?
            * * *
            By the way, if you pick out that royal brick from the Arakcheevsky barracks and throw it from the height of a 10-story building onto the asphalt, the asphalt will crack... Yes
      2. -3
        29 September 2024 11: 03
        Quote: BAI
        And in the early 70s this was done everywhere, and from the body of ZIL 130 there were only 3-4 broken bricks. I remember that moment well - we were building a personal garage

        Of course - you probably unloaded it for yourself manually, because the ZIL 130 is not a dump truck, but a flatbed truck.
        The dump truck is ZIL 4502, 555.

        I remember, at a construction site there was a stack of Soviet bricks, in the rain for a couple of weeks - several piles of dirty red clay formed...

        And they unloaded the bricks with a dump truck because they were nobody’s and there weren’t enough hands.

        Has anyone seen it unloaded like this today?
        1. BAI
          +3
          29 September 2024 11: 09
          After all, the ZIL 130 is not a dump truck, but a flatbed truck.

          Does ZIL 130 MMZ know about this?
          1. 0
            29 September 2024 11: 18
            knows ZIL-MMZ-555, but not 130.

            And lie that you uploaded it. himself -in bulk.
            1. BAI
              +2
              29 September 2024 13: 00
              Why lie? That's exactly what they did. The car was a left-hander. And no one could wait for it to be unloaded manually. Neither the driver nor the owners of the brick
              1. BAI
                0
                29 September 2024 13: 27
                knows ZIL-MMZ-555, but not 130.

                There is no such car ZIL 555

                There is a ZIL 130, and then there are many combinations of numbers and letters.
                But the main options are: flatbed, dump truck, tractor unit and chassis for mounting special equipment. Separately - 3-axle long-haul ZIL 130 GYA
                Not to be confused with ZIL 133.
                By the way, this dump truck was not made in Mytishchi, it has different letters and numbers, but it is still ZIL 130.
                1. +1
                  30 September 2024 10: 17
                  Quote: BAI
                  There is a ZIL 130, and then there are many combinations of numbers and letters.

                  no, ZIL, but without 130,remember:
                  ZIL-130D1T (1965-1986) - chassis for industrial tipper ZIL-MMZ-555T, export version for countries with tropical climate.
                  ZIL-130D2 (1968-1986) - chassis for industrial dump trucks ZIL-MMZ-555A and ZIL-MMZ-45022
                  ZIL-130E (1965—1986) — onboard
    2. +4
      29 September 2024 07: 55
      Well, now that the bourgeoisie has staged a coup and everything is in beautiful packages, you are probably happy. But before, the state gave out apartments.
      1. +2
        29 September 2024 11: 52
        Previously, the state provided apartments

        And even earlier they started giving rooms to families! And it's hard to imagine, but people were happy! If in the late 20s - early 30s in the "Kirov" house (Which I wrote about below), they gave a room of about 20 sq. m, with two more families next door, then people were happy! Thick walls, large radiators, a wide window. And the 6 sq. m kitchen and the lack of hot water and a bath were not upsetting. In those days, this was generally only in huge old manor apartments. And in the first years of Soviet power there was propaganda of food in production, in canteens, there were factory kitchens. It was necessary to work a lot, be well-fed, and not waste time on daily fussing with food (there were no refrigerators. As well as food in large quantities)
    3. +11
      29 September 2024 08: 28
      Quote: Amateur
      In the late 80s, I worked as the chief engineer of a huge construction association... A dump truck would arrive at the construction site and dump the bulk of bricks in the back of the truck into the mud
      What prevented you, as the chief engineer, from organizing a normal unloading of bricks, at least not into the mud?
      1. +5
        29 September 2024 08: 44
        What prevented you, as the chief engineer, from organizing a normal unloading of bricks, at least not into the mud?
        We are watching the film "The Prize", which many people laugh at.. Ha-ha-ha... They refused the prize... Stupid.. In 2005, the contractor began to build us a VTS building in the port of Kavkaz out of brick, what is remarkable, the brick was delivered in polyethylene and on pallets, in 2007 they finished. In 2010, they carried out the first major repairs, a crack appeared.. We are still repairing it every three years...
        1. 0
          29 September 2024 08: 46
          Quote: parusnik
          We are watching the film "The Prize", which many people laugh at
          I watched it. And I laughed too... wink
          1. +2
            29 September 2024 09: 21
            About the fact that they refused the award or about how the construction of the plant was going? smile
          2. +6
            29 September 2024 09: 54
            About the Soviet construction site you should watch not "The Prize", but "Operation Y", where it's about Shurik and Fedya. It shows much more truthfully how everything happened. And the bricks in the puddle, and the workers are a student and a 15-day prisoner. And the contingent for a brick factory is also appropriate.
          3. +1
            30 September 2024 09: 13
            Why did they laugh? After all, the workers there refused the bonus not because of their conscientiousness, but because, with the correct organization of production, they would have received more without this bonus.
            1. 0
              30 September 2024 16: 16
              Quote: Sergej1972
              Why did you laugh?

              I don't remember the details of the plot - I watched it a long time ago. But the very fact of refusing the award is something completely unreal...
        2. +4
          29 September 2024 10: 07
          Quote: parusnik
          the crack has appeared

          The problem is in the foundation. On a good foundation, even if you stack a pile of firewood, it will stand.
        3. BAI
          +3
          29 September 2024 11: 16
          major repairs, a crack appeared...we are still repairing it every three years...

          So the problem is in the foundation, not the brick.
          1. 0
            29 September 2024 11: 24
            It doesn't change the essence, money down the drain. The project was approved in Moscow and the calculations were made there, the contract was concluded with the contractor there, a lot was discussed. And in Moscow, as is well known, they don't keep friends.. but the money goes away and not three kopecks, millions, "and there are no hooligans, but hands under the coat" (c) It has been going away since the end of construction to this day.
            1. ANB
              0
              30 September 2024 16: 53
              . wind.. The project was approved in Moscow and the calculations were made there,

              In Stary Oskol it was necessary to order a project. And cheaper and there are no defects. Well, there were none while my mother was the chief engineer there.
      2. +4
        29 September 2024 09: 42
        In Soviet times there was such an organization - KNK (People's Control Committee). And it was mostly staffed by retired former party functionaries who themselves did not know how to do anything, but they checked, taught and punished everyone. And I, having read your comment, remembered how they took apart the KNK. And as one smart and experienced man told me: "Just don't argue with them, otherwise they can fire you, but they will simply give you a reprimand..."
        1. +1
          29 September 2024 11: 26
          "Just don't argue with them, otherwise they might fire you, or they'll just give you a reprimand..."
          Yeah, "I stood there for two hours, looking: will anyone, you know, come and turn off the tap? All the gasoline has leaked out" (c)
    4. +5
      29 September 2024 09: 36
      I worked as a chief engineer... A dump truck would come to a construction site and dump the bricks that were in the back of the truck into the mud, leaving at best half of them intact.
      You reminded me with your comment of a character in the film "We met somewhere". 1954. A. Raikin in the leading role. The character (M. Yanshin), the head of the railway station, is indignant:
      “- Why was I appointed to this position?
      - You're having fun, you know, but there's no order. It's chaos all around. Today I went out on the tracks - there's a tank car with gasoline, you know. Someone turned the tap on it. The gasoline is leaking out. I stood there for two hours, watching: will anyone, you know, come and close the tap? All the gasoline has leaked out" (c).
    5. -2
      29 September 2024 11: 54
      Depends on who the customer is. If it is not a poor private individual, then the construction will be supervised by inspectors from the customer at the main stages of the facility's delivery.
      And it would never occur to any "poor private owner" or developer to lay wet bricks in the masonry - they simply won't absorb the mortar. They cheat, of course, but they cheat wisely.
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    7. 0
      4 October 2024 09: 45
      There were a lot of construction sites around us, bricks on pallets, something like 375 pieces on one (+ -). But almost all of them were cracked, 2000s......
  2. BAI
    +7
    29 September 2024 07: 02
    And there was always a shortage of bricks under socialism. The volume of construction was too large.
    1. +2
      29 September 2024 07: 22
      And there was always a shortage of bricks under socialism. The volume of construction was too large.

      An old joke about a shortage of bricks:
      A student at a construction institute takes an exam.
      Professor: - So you, a young engineer, arrive at another construction site of socialism, and there the concrete is freezing, broken bricks are lying around, the reinforcement is in a puddle. What do you think about first?
      Student: - Honestly, professor?
      Prof: - Of course, honestly.
      Student: - To be honest, about girls
      Prof: - What girls! The bricks are lying around, the concrete is freezing, the reinforcement is rusting!
      Student: - What does brick, concrete and other things have to do with it? I'm at such an age that I can't think about anything except girls.

      wassat
    2. +12
      29 September 2024 07: 25
      That's why they built single-story houses for two owners - saving money, damn. No matter how good the neighbor is, it's still better to be alone, and in our northwestern regions of the region there are plenty of such houses. There was one plus then - less brick is used, but there are a lot of minuses - I'm not even talking about loud music behind the wall and other sounds - if there's a fire, both burn.
      BRICKS on pallets and in packaging!
      I myself worked at a brick factory before my military service - there were pallets, basically no packaging - and without it they would snatch you up))
    3. 0
      4 October 2024 11: 00
      Quote: BAI
      And there was always a shortage of bricks under socialism. The volume of construction was too large.

      laughing The State Planning Committee did not take into account the demands of private construction - garages, houses, summer cottages. wassat
  3. +7
    29 September 2024 07: 08
    Of course, many people don't like these facts now, especially those who talk about the "iron order" under Stalin. Here it is - this very iron order. This is all of 1939-1940, right after the repressions.
    Nevertheless, the most important sectors of the national economy are being destroyed almost openly, the names of the guilty are printed in newspapers, even with the prefix “comrade,” and nothing happens, because the same stories are repeated further.
    Nowadays they like to talk about what the USSR was like should have been, passing it off as that what was he like. Well, not everything was bad, but there was enough of that, and a lot of it.
  4. +3
    29 September 2024 07: 10
    But we have to admit something completely different: the Soviet government and the Communist Party were completely unable to defend themselves against the internal enemy, which was secretly undermining the economic and military power of the country created by this government and the party.

    Even now our government does not know how (or does not want?) to defend itself from internal enemies who are trying to destroy the country. For so many years we have been watching indifferently as high-ranking thieves live in luxury and take money abroad...
  5. +3
    29 September 2024 07: 12
    the article is not about the brick. The author wrote the article for the sake of the last two paragraphs
  6. -7
    29 September 2024 07: 34
    Where are the immediate arrests and subsequent executions?
    But we have to admit something completely different: the Soviet government and the Communist Party were completely unable to defend themselves against the internal enemy, who was secretly undermining the economic and military power of the country created by this government and the party.
    .
    So how much more could they shoot, they could kill everyone.

    Where else in the world were there so many internal enemies as the Nagod regime? Nowhere, a unique regime.

    maybe the real enemy and saboteur was the system itself and the incompetent government?
    1. +7
      29 September 2024 07: 50
      Live long. In another fifty years, you will find out how people are now jailed for texting.
      1. -6
        29 September 2024 08: 07
        Quote: Gardamir
        Live long. In another fifty years, you will find out how people are now jailed for texting.

        and may you not get sick. But they didn't answer the question.
        .
        And yes, how many hundreds of thousands were shot for text messages?
        1. +6
          29 September 2024 09: 43
          It's as if you're still living in 1989. And we'll be able to talk about the current deaths in about fifty years.
          1. +5
            29 September 2024 11: 04
            in about fifty years

            hi Earlier, much earlier. I came across this expression liberal repression! These very cunning repressions without executions began with the creation of a deficit, inflation, the ruin of both Soviet enterprises and the population, and non-payment of wages and pensions for six months.
            And what about Russian people who find themselves outside the country? In other, often hostile conditions? Without the possibility of leaving for Russia. What is this if not repression? am
          2. -7
            29 September 2024 11: 11
            Quote: Gardamir
            . And we will be able to talk about the current victims in about fifty years.

            Don't lie - no one except you, not even Medusa, writes such nonsense.
            1. +2
              29 September 2024 11: 22
              Everything has its time. The nonsense you write was not written in 1937 either. And now throwing mud at the history of the Motherland is encouraged.
              1. 0
                29 September 2024 12: 17
                Quote: Gardamir
                The nonsense you write, no one wrote it in 1937 either.

                At that time no one knew anything, even those who gave orders and shot did not foresee the scale of the events.

                Today everyone knows everything
                Quote: Gardamir
                And now throwing mud at the history of the Motherland is encouraged.

                is this really mudslinging? You live in a never-existent pink world of "Jolly Fellows", "Circus" and "Volga-Volga"
                1. +3
                  29 September 2024 13: 17
                  Yes, no, I don't live in the past. But many people don't know about the present time either.
                  1. -2
                    30 September 2024 10: 26
                    Quote: Gardamir
                    No, I don't live in the past

                    write, how right tell about the millions who died from the famine in Novorossiya, the Caucasus and the Volga region in 1933, so as not to "throw mud" as in the USSR, that is, IN NO WAY (it was not in the official version)?

                    Or are you afraid?
                    1. +1
                      30 September 2024 17: 28
                      Oh! Great topic! laughing
                      There is something to write about.
  7. +11
    29 September 2024 07: 43
    Good article.
    The article clearly demonstrates that:
    1. There is no such thing as perfect planning;
    2. Planning is often not carried out for various reasons beyond the control of the performer;
    3. In the USSR, during the first five-year plans, a huge number of SUPERGIANT PROBLEMS were solved simultaneously, which even humanity had never encountered:
    From the initial accumulation of capital, the implementation of what the West has already gone through in the course of two technological revolutions, the total borrowing of technologies in completely different areas of production and activity (for example, the creation of Sanatoriums, inviting German specialists), the creation of a complex of education, medicine for all, and not for a limited stratum or class. At the same time, the formation of armed forces and the creation of the military-industrial complex. Cultural revolution: the level of literacy in Russia on the eve of the revolution of 1917 was lower than in England in the XNUMXth century.
    In a country with an agrarian primitive mentality, where peasants were serfs 60 years ago, if you count temporary obligations, then only 20 years!
    It is obvious that both the level of work culture and the level of productivity will be extremely low.
    He was like that and much, much later!
    And yes:
    The iron order under Stalin, alas, is not supported by facts
    But the level of responsibility, discipline and control of the management layer and bureaucracy in the Land of Soviets was significantly higher than in any capitalist state.
    You don’t have to go far, the responsibility of officials in the USSR in the 80s and today in the Russian Federation is like heaven and earth!
    1. -12
      29 September 2024 08: 23
      Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
      where peasants were serfs 60 years ago. If you count temporary servitude, then only 20 years!

      What nonsense? The abolition of the criminal law did not take place in 1867.
      Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
      But the level responsibility, discipline and control of the management layer and the level of bureaucracy in the Land of Soviets was significantly higher than in any capitalist state.

      And who was responsible for the millions of corpses from starvation in 1933 (names, accusations, sentences)? NO ONE.
      When the same thing happened again in 1946-47, who responded from the Moldovan leadership? NO ONE.

      Let's not even mention the tank commissars Salzmann, who stole food supplies from the starving workers of the Kirov plant during the war.

      And so it is everywhere and everywhere.
      1. +7
        29 September 2024 11: 15
        Dear Andrew,
        You seemed to be soviet officers laughing : I wanted to ask, in your practice, when you encounter, to put it mildly, not the best composition of conscripts, what did you do for their development, bringing them to discipline, etc.?
        How effectively did you manage the unit entrusted to you to accomplish the tasks assigned to you in peacetime, and to successfully accomplish them during the war? Your unit, platoon, what positions did it occupy in the unit according to the facts of the periodic inspection?
        Or were they whining and demagogic, and conducting subversive activities against the Soviet government back in the 70s in the unit they were assigned to?
        1. -3
          29 September 2024 11: 47
          Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
          You seemed to be a Soviet officer laughing: I wanted to ask, in your practice, when you encountered, to put it mildly, not the best composition of conscripts, what did you do for their development, bringing them to discipline, etc.?

          was a foreman of the UNRM, explained the work, supervised and demanded execution with the support of the ensign and sergeants. And that was enough.
          Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
          Or were they whining and demagogic, and conducting subversive activities against the Soviet government back in the 70s in the unit they were assigned to?

          and why should I do this - the authorities themselves did it: they were building a very important special building, they didn't have time, and a commission of lampasniks arrived, so before their arrival, clearing the site, ... they swept dozens of floor slabs, beams, heads, strong bricks into a ravine with bulldozers, the locals then dug them out. In another - they removed thousands of square meters of tiles, put in parquet and paint, etc., etc. And the asphalt - 2 km away? And the KAMAZ trucks under the butt? And so - everywhere and everywhere.

          The people laughed and...were furious...
          1. +1
            29 September 2024 12: 15
            Dear Andrew,
            the government itself: they were building a very important special building, they didn't have time, and a commission of lampasniks arrived, so before their arrival, while clearing the site, ... they swept dozens of floor slabs, beams, heads, and bricks into a ravine with bulldozers, and the locals then dug them out. In another, they removed thousands of square meters of tiles, installed parquet and paint, etc., etc.

            "The power itself", who is that? Leonid Ilyich Brezhnev or Podgorny who ordered it? Which power?
            The people laughed, but who is he? Did I get into trouble?
            The people laughed and...were furious...

            I laughed until I was done...
            Don't answer, these are rhetorical questions. hi
            1. -2
              30 September 2024 10: 35
              Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
              "The power itself", who is that?

              It is a system lying hypocritical power of the party
              Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
              The people laughed, but who is he? Did I get into trouble?

              yes, that's how they put it
              Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
              I laughed until I was done...

              the government has played itself out
              Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
              Don't answer, the questions are rhetorical

              late hi
    2. +5
      29 September 2024 09: 43
      Good article.
      The article clearly demonstrates that:

      The article once again demonstrates that the author is taking it upon himself to speak on issues about which he has not the slightest idea.
      Simple logic suggests that before writing something about bricks and their production, one must familiarize oneself with this production. But this path is not for this author. He has no time to deal with such trivial questions, because he needs to "rip off the covers".
      Just a few points.
      In 1930, 29 new brick factories were founded with an estimated cost of 146,2 million rubles for 1,18 billion bricks per year.

      The same story repeated itself as with the construction of cement factories. New and well-equipped brick factories were built, built, built... but they were never completed.

      Let's look at the history of the construction of one of these "new, well-equipped saurds".
      In August 1929, with the help of stove-makers, young men and women who arrived from the surrounding villages of the republic, the construction of the Ivanovo brick factory began, which went into operation in 1930 and in its first season of operation formed about 300 thousand bricks by hand.

      The technology of brick production was based solely on the use of manual labor: clay was dug with shovels, transported by horse, kneaded by foot, molded by hand, dried in drying sheds with repeated re-laying, manually placed in floor kilns, fired with wood, and unloaded by hand.

      Another author's pearl.
      In 1939, the capacity of the kilns operating in the USSR brick factories was 4,8 billion pieces, and the capacity of the dryers was 3,5 billion pieces, or 27% less. Due to such an "organization" of production, roughly a third of the kilns were idle. This, by the way, was 1,3 billion pieces of brick, twice as much as the People's Commissariat of Construction used.

      If the author had inquired about the technology that existed at that time, he would have learned that natural drying in such "sheds" is possible in the northern regions for up to 90 days, in the central regions - 115-120, in the southern regions - up to 155. And the rest of the time the brick will not dry. The rest of the time artificial drying is necessary. Those brick factories that had equipment for artificial drying worked all year round. And those that dried the green brick in drying sheds, and this is almost all small local production, worked seasonally.
      In productions where semi-dry pressing was used, drying is absent altogether, dryers are not needed there. Therefore, it is possible to raise the difference in the capacity of furnaces and dryers on the shield only if there is data specifically for all plants on the seasonality of work and technological processes.
      1. +6
        29 September 2024 09: 56
        I missed the most important point. At that time, there were no modern continuous tunnel kilns. The kilns were periodic. The raw material was loaded into the kiln, fired, then the kiln cooled and unloaded. And so on in a circle. That is, some of the kilns were constantly idle. Therefore, slightly more firing capacity was required than for drying, taking into account downtime, including for repairs.
        1. +5
          29 September 2024 10: 53
          Continuing the comment after your quote, dear Eduard, I want to add that unfortunately I knew little about that time before. And when I learned more ---- I felt ashamed that I scolded and condemned the so-called "Kirov" houses. It turned out that these five-story buildings with wide three-wing windows began to be built at the end of 20s!years! There was a shortage of absolutely nothing! No bricks, no other materials! There were no workers, no engineers, many died in the Civil War. There was a shortage of both railway cars and railway workers and drivers!
          In such conditions they saved. Thus, in order to save on the side walls, sometimes very long houses were obtained. Sometimes there were not 3-wing windows, but smaller glazing. While I remember, at the level of the transom across the entire width of the window ---- 12 panes. Also, sometimes bricks that had already been in use were used. These houses probably simply fell apart by the beginning of the 90s. They were torn down. But many "Kirov" houses remained and were recognized as architectural monuments. And I am glad about this. By the way, in the city center they now require that when installing double-glazed windows, the glazing and brown color of the frames be preserved.
          The quote came out on its own and is below. request wink
          1. +1
            29 September 2024 11: 06
            By the way, in the city center they are now requiring that when installing double-glazed windows, the glazing and brown color of the frames be preserved.
            GKIOP has always required this, even in the nineties.
            Hello Dmitry!
            1. +1
              29 September 2024 11: 10
              hi Anton, greetings! wink I have no doubt that you can tell a lot about this topic.
              recourse I guess in the 90s people didn't really care about brown double-glazed windows request Now, in my opinion, there are a lot of budget ones in the center.
              1. +1
                29 September 2024 11: 26
                In principle, yes. It was cheaper to restore a wooden window back then, I did it myself. However, if you see a metal-plastic arched window somewhere in the old stock, where the arch is made of short straight sections in the form of a polygon, know that this is a greeting from the nineties. They just didn't know how to bend a profile back then.
                1. +1
                  29 September 2024 11: 32
                  No, I've never seen anything like that. laughing Most likely, I was not invited to those rooms-apartments where it was done. In the 90s wink But I came across the fact that someone had already started to remake the double-glazed windows of that time. request
                  1. +1
                    29 September 2024 11: 40
                    But I came across the fact that someone had already started to remake the double-glazed windows of that time.
                    That's right, they have single-chamber packages, which are no longer satisfactory in terms of heat and sound insulation.
                    As for the invitations, everything is perfectly visible from the street. I can even tell you the address where such windows were: the corner of Karpovka and Bolshoy P.S. They were present 10 years ago, but now - I don't know.
                    1. +2
                      29 September 2024 12: 12
                      I'll keep an eye on it, Anton. In general, pre-war construction is an interesting topic. For example, a "sausage house" was built in the Nevsky district, precisely to save on materials! And at the same time, such public buildings were built as the "Big House" on Liteiny, then the Lensovet Palace of Culture, the Narva Department Store, the Frunzensky Department Store, the Kirov Palace of Culture, such masterpiece monsters! Constructivism, architectural monuments! And besides that, kindergartens, schools, hospitals, clinics, baths, hostels for those who came from the villages, libraries, stadiums, sports sections, sanatoriums, pioneer camps, and many others!!!
                      It is interesting that the administrative buildings built at that time are much more "durable" than residential ones!
                      1. +1
                        29 September 2024 13: 05
                        DK im. Lensovet, Narva Department Store, Frunzensky Department Store, DK im. Kirov,
                        Vyborg factory kitchen.
                        Frankly speaking, I am not very impressed by the "Kirov" style in architecture. Maybe because I lived in a house built at that time... "Stalin's Empire" is much more pleasant to me.
                      2. +1
                        29 September 2024 13: 26
                        Vyborg factory kitchen

                        Well, well, well, --- Rovesnik cafe, Gray Horse? About this?
                        Of course, you are right! Stalin's Empire style is much cooler! But the difference is ~20~25 years, and these were experiments in mass housing construction. After all, there was also the construction of 2-story cottages in the Nevsky district, the 20s, probably, all these apartments became separate. Experiments with foam concrete and the first block houses appeared. And if it weren't for the war, everything would have been different in the USSR!!! Both with houses and with the metro!
                        And what's interesting is the principle according to work, and not equality. That's what. And Kirov houses were both with a wooden staircase and a 5m kitchen for three, and a double kitchen, where in the 5m there was a wood stove and firewood, and in the 14m ---- an adjacent dining room. This is in addition to 3 large rooms (Academicians' House on Stachek) Or the burgundy house next to the Lensovet Palace of Culture, in the kindergarten where Shevchenko is now. Steep. For specialists. Well, and Karpovka 13. Pre-war. For the leadership. Both Tolstoy and Bekhterev lived there.
    3. +2
      29 September 2024 10: 35
      Eduard Vashchenko -----
      In the USSR, during the first five-year plans, a huge number of SUPERGIANT PROBLEMS were solved simultaneously, which even humanity had never encountered
    4. BAI
      +3
      29 September 2024 11: 20
      There is no such thing as perfect planning;

      One of the classics - Marx or Engels - wrote: when the state will worry about how many pants to produce and how many buttons to make for them, the citizens of the state will be left without pants and without buttons
      1. +2
        29 September 2024 12: 39
        when the state will worry about how many pants to produce and how many buttons to make for them, the citizens of the state will be left without pants and without buttons

        Good afternoon,
        the difficulty here is that if Marx or Engels wrote this, I don’t know, then they wrote in a country where they even invented a pin, a “safety pin”, and not one where the level of material culture was below the baseboard and there was no baseboard... I repeat, because of the economic stage that Russia was at (without judgment).
        So we had to plan "buttons" when it was necessary to raise the material level of everyone to some minimum level.
        What can I say here? Germany in the 20s and 30s was inferior to the USA: GDP per capita was 63%, while Soviet Russia was 25% (source A. Maddison, 2001).
        Everything had to be planned here, but there was nowhere in the world to buy “buttons” for 180 million people.
        Let's not forget that the stage when the production of "buttons" in the "required quantity" would have arisen through competitive struggle between "button" producers did not exist in Russia!
        hi
        1. +1
          29 September 2024 17: 18
          Eduard Vashchenko -----
          the level of material culture was below the baseboard and there was no baseboard ............................ So we had to plan buttons

          This phrase explained a lot to me. What I didn't understand from Soviet films..... At the same time, remembering the stories of my elders about the last decades of the USSR, it turns out to be a sad topic.
          1. +1
            29 September 2024 17: 33
            it turns out to be a sad topic.
            Dima, (sorry for the familiarity) this is a fucking sad topic!!! I've already said a hundred times that the USSR in which I was born and raised is very far from your ideals. Unfortunately.
            1. +1
              29 September 2024 18: 01
              You see, Anton, I wrote these words, and then I read the comment below, which north 2 wrote. It's just amazing. As if at 7am a further answer to my thoughts at 17pm was written. It's just mysticism!
              That is, it turns out that for more than 70 years, this shortcoming (or deficiency) has not been overcome.
              It's very sad. You and I didn't see or know what it was like in the center of the USSR, but what it was like far from the center ---- inconsistencies. Both in the West and in the East. As far as I remember your recollections, the difference was that in the Far East, where we were, there was at times an abundance of goods that were strange and incomprehensible to most, but there was no shortage or complete ambush. And then the natural abundance helped.
              1. +2
                29 September 2024 18: 08
                there was no complete ambush
                We had a complete ambush. Shoes for the "last bell" and graduation party were sold with a certificate from the school. 1990. And this is not the poorest region of the RSFSR.
                1. +1
                  29 September 2024 18: 37
                  I don't know how I would have taken it if I had lived there for so long. After all, we left when I was 6 years old. All my childhood there were hazel grouse, partridges, caviar, fish... adults didn't get any hazel grouse. laughing But they had elk meat, venison, .... and this local cheap meat cost about a ruble. And it happened once. They brought some French meat to the village store. The women were sent home from work to take their turn, and the men came at the end of their work. And there was still a line. The parents waited, bought everything, carried it on sleds, dragged it .... And it was already dark! And I, a two-year-old, was alone in the dark. They quietly came in and were afraid to turn on the light, to scare me, you never know. I was silent and listening wink laughing They don't see me and sneak and whisper. And I'm silent. There's a big room, 28 meters. They don't see anything and don't know where I am..... Then I called them, I was sitting on the bed in the dark. And this French meat is huge, in pieces. Part of a leg ---- about a meter long. They sawed a bone at the "friendship", and each piece was in polyethylene, and it was written: "Made in France". And what was that??? They thought maybe there would be pork there, but there --- look what! And it was like that in everything --- sometimes it was littered with pineapples, but there were no apples! Then something else... And with industrial goods, books too. Or some year, they brought halibut, no one bought it there, it's understandable why.
                2. +2
                  29 September 2024 19: 03
                  I thought that inappropriate surpluses of goods were not as bad as constant shortages of one thing or another. After all, there was something else. True, my parents didn't do this, but others did. There were some really cheap building materials, someone bought up .... and some warm clothes. They sent them to the mainland.
                  1. +4
                    29 September 2024 20: 22
                    Dmitry,
                    Good evening.
                    A few personal observations, I apologize for interfering in your communication with Anton.
                    1990 was already the end of its life, I wouldn’t judge the USSR by it at all.
                    My childhood was spent in the 70s - it was a fantastically carefree time, and although all my relatives worked intensively in factories, life was great.
                    But if we look at it systematically, of course, the low work culture and the influence of the agrarian mentality weighed on us throughout the entire Soviet period.
                    It is naive to think that the lack of food was caused by the "Planned Economy", in my opinion it is a delusional name, the guns and tanks with which the Russian army fights today are all from there.
                    The cool thing for a few people over the last 30 years is the lack of military spending by the Russian Federation.
                    It's scary to imagine that if the modern Russian military budget even comes close to the USSR in percentage terms, not absolute, then not shoes for the last bell will be on the certificate, but buttons too laughing
                    hi
                    1. 0
                      29 September 2024 20: 58
                      Good evening, Edward! hi
                      You don't choose times, you live and die in them fellow drinks

                      I was born in 1985 and I also had a carefree childhood. I even probably lived for some time under communism in the Far East. But the move, the return... Thus, from the oddities of trade in the Far East geological exploration, I got into the queues and inflation of St. Petersburg in 1991. I did not understand the difference. And if there parents stood until dark for French meat, then here we walked somewhere in the dark, it was known that at about 22 p.m. they would "give" chocolates. But you have to take a 5 kg package. But quickly and without fights. And during the day in the stores it came to fisticuffs. And this surprised me very much. In the taiga they did not fight over food
                      The lack of food already in the 80s, this, in my opinion, is just the beginning of those very liberal repressions (I wrote somewhere), which were growing and acquiring an increasingly ugly and difficult form for people. And now I think that the same crime of the 90s-00s also did not just happen. And first all this, and then people were not against capitalism and the destruction of the country, but thought, just to survive.
                      absence of military spending

                      And the question arises: where do the commensurate funds go if there are no such expenses? recourse ?? ,,,,,
                      there will be buttons on the certificate...

                      I guess this has happened before? request At home I still have a shoe box with different buttons. And also new buttons in bags of 20 pieces. And my mother can also make different buttons from anything. A reserve. hi
                      1. +1
                        30 September 2024 12: 52
                        Quote: Reptiloid
                        I still have a shoe box with different buttons at home.

                        That's exactly why it lies there запас - you can't buy pretty buttons. People are mating with old and unusable clothes
                3. +1
                  30 September 2024 12: 50
                  Quote: 3x3zsave
                  We had a complete ambush. Shoes for the "last bell" and graduation party were sold with a certificate from the school. 1990

                  Sneakers, 1987, Chinese, - need to hand in 100 kg of butter to the consumer cooperative. We mined that damned butter right up until we bought it in the store. Then sneakers 43 arrived - we needed 45. We bought them and spent 4 months exchanging them in neighboring areas with the same poor guys. Graduation has long passed...
        2. -1
          30 September 2024 10: 43
          Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
          and where the level of material culture was below the baseboard, there was no baseboard.

          the level of fabric production in Russia, the USSR was able to catch up only in 40 years-see the Central Statistical Bureau Report 1956, also on food.
          This is what "mater culture" is.
    5. 0
      30 September 2024 12: 46
      Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
      But the level of responsibility, discipline and control of the management layer and bureaucracy in the Land of Soviets was significantly higher than in any capitalist state.

      Boo-ha-ha ....
      Responsibility in the USSR...
      Who was impaled - those who ordered to build or ordered to stop building the Dead Road? One of them ineptly pumped up the people's resources, forces and means....
      We metalworkers have been collecting scrap metal in the fields for 30 (thirty!!) years - and it never ends. The custom of drowning tractors while drunk on Easter - "let's go get another bottle" - was all over the USSR.
      Try to sink a Kirovets NOW - and I know a place where 4 Kirovets lie drowned...

      A reprimand "along party lines" was the highest punishment for a responsible employee in those days... And even then, only up to a certain level of positions...
      1. +4
        30 September 2024 15: 48
        A reprimand "along party lines" was the highest punishment for a responsible employee in those days... And even then, only up to a certain level of positions...

        If you are a scrap metal collecting specialist, that's very good, but there's no point in talking about where you are a complete amateur.
        As Gleb Zheglov said: the work of law enforcement agencies is judged not by the number of thieves in the country, but by their ability to catch them.
        For some reason, our people are fighting today on "scrap metal" from the USSR, and not on the latest developments created under the new leaders. And there is nothing to talk about about squandering the national wealth, including that created by Soviet generations, how much does the Head of the Investigative Committee of Russia Alexander Ivanovich Bastrykin say?
        Three or even four Kirovets will seem like three kopecks next to a billion.
        P.S. I agree with one thing, in the 80s of the XNUMXth century in the USSR there was complete irresponsibility among ordinary employees (en masse), now under capitalism, it is impossible to imagine such a thing: in the best case scenario, they would fly out like a cork from a bottle!
  8. +4
    29 September 2024 07: 57
    very strange article.
    Firstly, I have already repeated several times that before the Great Patriotic War there were so many saboteurs and enemies of the people in the USSR that Stalin could have overlooked someone in such a huge mass, making two possible mistakes. Perhaps another time he put a little too few people against the wall and perhaps another time he put a little too many of the wrong ones...
    Secondly, Russia - the USSR, taken into Stalin's hands after the devastation from the revolutions and the Civil War, in order to carry out the huge industrialization of the huge country in the shortest time, needed such a rapid pace of construction of various factories that, compared to the supervision of the construction of Magnitka or Deprogess, supervision of what was happening in the most primitive brick factories was relegated to the third place. Well, saboteurs and enemies of the people did not disdain to manage brick factories.
    Thirdly. How then to evaluate the sabotage after Stalin's death under Khrushchev and Brezhnev, if, for example, in 1977 in the USSR at the Tallinn brick factory producing red building bricks, there was the same conveyor and production chain of clay from the quarry to the kiln, with the only difference being that in 1977 the kiln worked on gas. And the rest, as in the USSR in Stalin's time. But how under Brezhnev they applauded at party congresses, that in the USSR already developed socialism ... although, for example, the brick factory has not developed at all since Stalin's time. In Brezhnev's time, if any of you had to build a private house, then you know that getting an order for building bricks was extremely problematic. In fact, it was impossible. And we blame everything on saboteurs in Stalin's time ...
    1. +2
      29 September 2024 12: 51
      I worked on a construction site during the Brezhnev era and later. It was difficult with bricks, because in our place (where I worked) all housing was built from bricks. A huge number of objects were being built SIMULTANEOUSLY. In the early 80s, I was a site manager and I had 20 objects being built simultaneously. When I needed bricks for building a dacha, I ordered the necessary bricks for myself, not without difficulties. Our organization tried to help its own in such matters. Of course, not strangers. Well, that was the case everywhere.
  9. +2
    29 September 2024 08: 27
    I remembered a satirical story from the early 30s, I don't remember the author. The gist of it is that an American saw was brought to a sawmill, an automatic one. The men began to test what it could do. It could handle all types of wood, even sawed up a snag with roots. And they decided to try... a crowbar. The saw couldn't handle the iron crowbar... The men smoked, laughed at the imported equipment and... went to saw by hand... the method was proven. And many such stories were published in various industry newspapers and magazines of that time.
  10. +1
    29 September 2024 10: 14
    Nowadays they don't build from bricks anymore. It's expensive. Walls are built from lighter materials. And sometimes from shit and sticks. It's cheaper!
  11. 0
    29 September 2024 11: 35
    But we have to admit something completely different: the Soviet government and the Communist Party were completely unable to defend themselves against the internal enemy, which was secretly undermining the economic and military power of the country created by this government and the party.
    Really? How did they win the war then? Does that mean that the "regime's repressions" were in vain, no one should have been jailed in the 30s, then the bricks would have been good?
    1. +2
      29 September 2024 14: 09
      Good day, Sergey! hi From the standpoint of hindsight, it is easy to find shortcomings in the distant past. So it turns out that if "she didn't know how to defend herself", then the repressions were insufficient! And censorship--- insufficient! A very interesting thought.
      1. +1
        29 September 2024 14: 56
        There is no thought there other than to make some money by inserting a provocative thesis into the article so that there would be more responses. In addition, the author is not aware of the production technology at all, which was pointed out to him here.
        1. +4
          29 September 2024 15: 10
          so that there would be more responses
          Responses are nothing, views are everything! So we've already created hype for the author.
          Good day, Sergey!
          By the way, you were planning to go to St. Petersburg in the fall?
          1. +3
            29 September 2024 15: 13
            So far, I haven't got around to visiting. I'll get to our branch, try to set up the equipment delivered from St. Petersburg, and if that doesn't work out, I'll go to St. Petersburg to knock on their heads. And now there's enough idiocy with the quarterly report. drinks
            And Shpakovsky wrote about the reviews that they help the author financially.
            1. +2
              29 September 2024 15: 26
              You misunderstood him. Any commercial resource lives off advertising. Advertisers place content based on the number of views, not the number of comments. Accordingly, the resource management can additionally reward those authors who brought in more views. Knowing the approximate rates for the work of full-time authors (Verkhoturov is a freelancer), I think that we have already earned the "demiurge" an extra 100 rubles.
              1. 0
                29 September 2024 16: 59
                We have already earned an extra 100 rubles for the "demiurge".
                I see. Well, on Sunday you can give to the poor.
                1. +1
                  29 September 2024 17: 11
                  I never suspected you, Sergei, of Christian mercy! laughing drinks hi
                  1. +1
                    29 September 2024 18: 23
                    I didn't even suspect myself. I'm getting old, I guess.
  12. +2
    29 September 2024 12: 37
    I read about unloading in bulk and laugh. You are probably talking about stolen bricks. When you were transporting them to your dacha. tongue
    I graduated from MISI in 1979 and came to the construction site as a foreman. And I worked there until perestroika, and graduated as the chief engineer of a construction and installation organization.
    And I have never seen bricks being delivered to a site in bulk in a dump truck. Bricks ALWAYS came to us from the factories on flatbed ZIL-130v trucks with a trailer. Each truck had 8 pallets of 400 pieces or 16 pallets of 200 pieces. The trucks were always unloaded by crane. Moreover, unloading should not exceed 15 minutes, otherwise the truck drivers could impose a fine for downtime. On the waybills they wrote "unloading 15 minutes".
    1. +1
      29 September 2024 15: 22
      I graduated from MISI in 1979 and came to the construction site as a foreman. And I worked there until perestroika, and graduated as the chief engineer of a construction and installation organization.
      And I have never seen bricks being delivered to a site in bulk in a dump truck.

      This is because bricks were not brought to such construction sites from factories belonging to the local industry or the inter-collective farm construction system. This was the order of the day there. And the quality was very poor - either too little or too much.
      1. +4
        29 September 2024 16: 10
        It was busy, and how it was busy. Especially silicate, as it is less prickly. Personally, as a schoolboy, I extracted frozen silicate from the train cars - "scattered".
    2. BAI
      +3
      29 September 2024 16: 38
      I have never seen bricks being delivered to a site in bulk in a dump truck.

      Well, look:
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        29 September 2024 18: 28
        You don't visit construction sites very often, on large construction sites they only transport things like that, then the helpers pack them on pallets until the morning. Monkey labor, and it's also free, but you can bring more in one trip.
        1. +1
          29 September 2024 19: 27
          That's exactly how it was when, at the end of the USSR, I went to a house construction site to "work it off". And the bricks were of such quality that half of them immediately turned into a battle!
    3. +2
      30 September 2024 12: 59
      Quote: Valery 2012
      Bricks ALWAYS came to us from the factories on flatbed ZIL-130v trucks with a trailer. Each truck had 8 pallets of 400 pieces or 16 pallets of 200 pieces. The trucks were always unloaded by crane. Moreover, unloading should not exceed 15 minutes.

      -99, 999999999.......℅ - what are you in Moscow worked......
      And on ordinary construction - if the bricks were brought TODAY, NOT TOMORROW - it was already a holiday... 15 minutes aha-ha.....
      And they dumped them out of dump trucks - 3/4 of the battle was
  13. 0
    29 September 2024 14: 07
    If the Soviet government and the Communist Party had been completely unable to defend themselves against the internal enemy, the Soviet Union would certainly not have survived. With mass sabotage, there would have been no construction. Such costs are inevitable when switching from one state system to another. But repressions, as tragic as it may sound, are also, alas, inevitable.
  14. 0
    29 September 2024 18: 26
    As an option, hands did not get to such mundane matters to restore order, and there was no one to point out the mess in the industry, on the principle that such trifles distract, more important things always come up. Hence the years of marriage and complete ignoring of the problem. There is also a problem with the certification and certification of private builders (who work for themselves on a moonlighting basis), it needs to be done, it will only benefit everyone, but alas, for ten years now I have not been able to get through this topic, where I have not written justifications, there are always more important things to do.
  15. +3
    29 September 2024 20: 54
    Why invent some mythical pests if it's just plain incompetence.
    After the upheaval of the revolution, when many engineers and scientists were physically destroyed or fled abroad, there was a shortage of them in the country. Especially since there was a catastrophic shortage of engineers in Tsarist Russia.
    That is why all these shortcomings in planning and inability to organize are now being passed off as sabotage.
  16. +1
    30 September 2024 11: 27
    In short, they unraveled the myth that they themselves created.
  17. +1
    30 September 2024 16: 39
    Hint invented the white brick. He was imprisoned and died in prison.
  18. +1
    30 September 2024 20: 39
    Well, we have a long-standing problem with bricks. How does the movie "True Friends" begin? Bricks are delivered every other place. And this is 1954, by the way.