"Private Ivan's Group": Four conscripts were surrounded in the Kursk region for over a month, collecting information about the enemy

Four conscripts spent more than a month surrounded in the Kursk region, but did not give up weapons and did not surrender. The military themselves spoke about this on the air of the channel "Russia-1".

During the invasion of the Ukrainian Armed Forces into the Russian region, four conscripts found themselves surrounded near the village of Darino in the Korenevsky District. They had machine guns with a small number of rounds and two grenades. They were not going to surrender, so they went into the forest near the village, from where they watched the enemy and collected information that could be useful to our military, putting it on the maps at their disposal.

The four conscripts spent 39 days surrounded until the Marines from the 155th Pacific Fleet Brigade liberated Darino. "Private Ivan's Group", as it was called by the name of its commander, reached our soldiers and passed on the information they had collected, including the coordinates of the identified targets.

To the sound of gunfire we went deeper into the forest and sat down there. When we heard Russian speech, two of our men came out. When we saw the first Russian man, my soul rejoiced.

- said one of the fighters named Alexey.

As military expert Boris Rozhin noted, the guys are worthy of state awards.

Comments

[Peter1First]

The guys are lucky to be alive!

[svp67]

Quote from: Peter1First

The guys are lucky to be alive!

This was in the first days of the invasion, and then you also needed the skills to find the same food and cook it and not get caught... after all, the guys knew how to do something

[Tatyana]

Well done guys! Their LOYALTY to the oath to their Armed Forces to serve their Fatherland and their Motherland, their people helped them! And also the military skills they acquired in the troops!
They did not get confused alone in the forest. They calculated their forces correctly. They made maps of the specific locations of enemy troops and thus helped the RF Armed Forces to take revenge on the foreign invaders of Russia for their armed invasion of our land! For the death of Russians and their property!

They acted according to the principle: "Whoever comes to us with a sword will perish by the sword!"

[Trapp1st]

Well done guys! Their LOYALTY to the oath helped them

Have you left your positions?

[Tatyana]

Quote: Trapp1st

Well done guys! Their LOYALTY to the oath helped them

Have you left your positions?

So their situation was this: either capture, or go into the forest and break through to their own!
You know what forces the Ukrainian Armed Forces used to attack and cross the Russian border with NATO support.
It is written:

They had machine guns with a small amount of ammunition and two grenades with them. They had no intention of surrendering, so they went into the forest near the village, from where they kept an eye on the enemy and collected information that could be useful to our military, putting it on the maps they had.

[Tatyana]

Quote: Trapp1st

Well done guys! Their LOYALTY to the oath helped them

Have you left your positions?

I will add to what I have said above. Namely.

Where did the private get the map? Most likely from their commander, who was already killed in battle.
Or they themselves compiled it later through their intelligence.
They just don't tell us everything.

[nerovnayadoroga]

About everything... 2023, 1428 assault regiment, n.p. Terny... Assault, in the first minutes of the battle a 120mm mine hits a company man directly, the battle began, my son came out of the company and took out the "Tajik" 300, arm, leg, fragmentation... 15 rounds for two, one AK47 of my son, mine was shell-shocked, there were no more grenades, no more ammo... They were picked up in the gray one three days later, the "Tajik" survived, they met my "Ricky" in the hospital, my son called from the hospital in Belgorod, and then, two weeks later, after being discharged, he went to the unit, with him two more, from other units, they went to the store at night to find something to eat, the car left without them, they forgot about them, they walked along the road, passed several bp, did not meet anyone, got lost... They walked along the citizens, uniforms in hospital they took away and gave out clothes, "went through three hospitals" and as a result there was no injury or concussion, according to the certificate, just went out for a walk, eventually got there, it turned out through the Ukrainian rear to Ternov, there was no unit ... they hid in the plantings, in the villages they looked for basements, cellars, food, supplies, looked for their own ... We walked for almost three weeks, they were wanted, they threw, they found, seized weapons from the enemy and at night broke through to their own, they tortured in the FSB and in the unit ... Again an assault .... There is NO group, my lucky one caught a sniper in the head 12,7, was the last, simply the last of the unit .... The regiment's reconnaissance took out a week later, BOW TO THE GUYS, for respect "RICKY" .. The Order of "COURAGE" posthumously, to the son ... We were waiting with my mother and grandson on vacation, arrived on always... I have the honor!

[Alexander Salenko]

They helped, excuse the detail, balls of steel, it's time to award the dads there a bonus for raising such boys. At our Antimaidan, when the Banderites came to beat us, about a third of the youth ran away, by the way, they then snatched the Banderites en masse. And the maximum risk there was, well, they would have broken your head. Boys, pardon me, men, should be awarded.

[Shooting]

I agree. From the book "Dawns over Russia". There the main character Semyon Melik taught his 15 year old son, standing on the city wall in front of the Mongolian army, he told his son - the coward dies first, the hero second. This is the mathematics of a real warrior!!!

[Alexander Salenko]

It's definitely my son who eats, pre-conscription age. Well, almost as much as the rest of the family, the three of them.

[Lemon]

Luck favors the strong and the brave!

[svp67]

Quote: Lemon

Luck favors the strong and the brave!

Unfortunately, but not always...alas. Being just lucky or fortunate is also not unimportant.
It is worth remembering at least the case when one Ukrainian fighter, in order to surrender, walked through a minefield, not even knowing about it, and even brought a goat with him to ours...
So tell him he's unlucky

[Mikhail Drabkin]

Well done guys, they didn't lose heart, they found the task and carried it out. Like scouts in the rear.

It's just a damn shame that 30-day info tends to go rancid... as everywhere else - modern, noise-like, broadband coded communications...

[Edik]

A fighter is not someone who has a machine gun and grenades! It's someone who has spirit and something dangling between his legs! Handsome guys.

[AAK]

Only the arithmetic turns out strange: on the one hand, there are a dozen or two guys who did not give up and went out to their own people, and on the other hand, there are hundreds of “school kids in uniform” who voluntarily raised their hands...

[Trapp1st]

more than a hundred "school kids in uniform" who voluntarily raised their hands...

We don’t know, and maybe we’ll never know, how many tried to hide in the forests, we only found out that four were lucky.

[fif21]

Quote: AAK

, and on the other hand, more than a hundred "schoolchildren in uniform" who voluntarily raised their hands...

By analogy with 41, such fighters created partisan detachments in the rear of the Germans, and continued to resist the enemy. And those who raised their hands, condemned themselves to a painful death in captivity, or slave labor.

[Trapp1st]

By analogy with 41, such fighters created partisan detachments in the rear of the Germans, and continued to resist the enemy. And those who raised their hands, condemned themselves to a painful death in captivity, or slave labor.

What is the analogy with 41? 103 people who surrendered have already returned home.

[AAK]

there were 2 exchanges of "Kursk", so more than 200 have already returned, well, and the "right" choice is for each person, a very conditional concept... and the comparison with 1941, my colleague gave an absolutely justified one - how many millions surrendered and how many tens (maximum 1-2 hundred thousand) went to the partisans without having the opportunity to break through to their own

[Trapp1st]

The comparison with 1941 my colleague made is absolutely justified

Nonsense. If more than 200 returned, then +/- everyone who gave up. The data is different, of course, but something like that.

[fif21]

Quote: Trapp1st

What is the analogy with 41? 103 people who surrendered have already returned home.

Yes, the Germans had no problems with "meat", so there was no exchange! But Zelya has big problems with "meat", so she is forced to go to the exchange.
103 conscripts who surrendered returned home, very good! But 103 of the Ukrainians who were handed over returned to the trenches. And how many conscripts went missing? Where are they? Killed, tortured, harvested for organs, or are they undergoing training in intelligence schools? Well done guys! They remained faithful to their oath!

[Tatyana]

Quote: fif21

Yes, the Germans had no problems with "meat", so there was no exchange! But Zelya has big problems with "meat", so she is forced to go to the exchange.

Bravo!
How correctly you noted this historical fact!

[Nastia makarova]

Are there any conscripts who have gone missing?

[fif21]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

Are there any conscripts who have gone missing?

The data is in the Russian Ministry of Defense, but it is classified.

[Nastia makarova]

will open in decades

[fif21]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

will open in decades

In the direction of the breakthrough of the state border there were mainly conscripts. Roughly speaking, 100 people, that's a company. Therefore, at a guess, even 200 people, that's a small percentage. It is also necessary to count those who withdrew in an organized manner and reached their own earlier. The exact information can be found in the committee of soldiers' mothers.

[Dilettante grandfather]

Exact information can be found in the Committee of Soldiers' Mothers.

Precise information can only be in the Ministry of Defense. And - it is, by law, closed to everyone, including this committee. I will say more: the Committee of Soldiers' Mothers is a public organization. And it cannot have classified information in the conditions of combat operations.

[fif21]

Quote: Grandfather is an amateur

The Committee of Soldiers' Mothers is a public organization.

There are such mothers there that everyone is afraid of them, from military commissars to the supreme commander. Parents of conscripts, if there is no connection with their children, go there. And you can't hide from them behind orders. True, I heard that after the creation of contract service, and the transition to one-year, their ranks thinned out significantly.

[kirichkov]

And there is no way it can have classified information.

If mathematics has become a secret for you, then yes, of course. But, unlike you, the weirdo, all the other Russians can count and know how many conscript boys there are in their mother's unit better than any MO.
Can I have classified information without any permission? Yes, easily, I can even analyze it in my head, and not a single law will forbid me to hear or see or think, but the law can forbid me to manipulate this information (transmit, collect - record on any media, systematically and purposefully observe).
And everyone here knows about the accuracy of the information.

[Dilettante grandfather]

Can I have classified information without any permission? Yes, easily, I can even analyze it in my head, and not a single law will forbid me to hear or see or think, but the law can forbid me to manipulate this information (transmit, collect - record on any media, systematically and purposefully observe).
And everyone here knows about the accuracy of the information

Of course, nobody has cancelled analysis. Nobody argues, analytics is a thing... But, let me note: precise information is only available where it is supposed to be. And no analytics can replace it. If there is documentary evidence - welcome, show it. No, only analytics? Go and have a walk.
Something like that.

[alexoff]

I don't understand - were there only conscripts there? Usually in units there are about half conscripts and half older ones. Where are their gentlemen officers?

[fif21]

Quote from alexoff

I don’t understand - were there only conscripts there?

Conscripts and contract soldiers. The SVO ribbon ran along the border of the Russian Federation.

[alexoff]

It seems like our entire army consists of conscripts and contract soldiers. But where is anyone over 20?

[fif21]

Quote from alexoff

It seems like our entire army consists of conscripts and contract soldiers. But where is anyone over 20?

A conscript of 18 years old (if there is no deferment, say, due to studies...) After half a year of service, he can sign a contract (with the permission of his parents)

[alexoff]

Well, where are the rest? The ensigns, captains and majors who made sure that the conscripts painted the grass correctly and beat off the edgings?

[fif21]

Quote from alexoff

Well, where are the rest? Ensigns, captains and majors,

I hope you fulfilled your military duty to the Motherland to the end. Maybe someone survived.

[Dilettante grandfather]

I don't understand - were there only conscripts there? Usually in units there are about half conscripts and half older ones. Where are their gentlemen officers?

Did it ever occur to you that the officers might have already been knocked out? And the sergeants? There were four men left. They made a decision. They did what had to be done. They managed to survive, get the information, and get back to their own.
What the hell don't you understand yet?!

[alexoff]

What do you mean I don't understand? They were all classified, like the Armatas with derivations? They only tell us about conscripts, I have to guess about seniors myself? It was possible to keep quiet about these too, so that we would just be engaged in pure fantasy, like it's a secret, come up with a more colorful story for yourself

[Dilettante grandfather]

What do you mean I don't understand? They were all classified, like the Armatas with derivations? They only tell us about conscripts, and I have to guess about seniors myself?

Yes, you have the right to speculate about those of higher rank. Or not to speculate.
There is a fact. There is what happened. There are four guys who did what they had to do. You can continue to fantasize, that is your right.

[alexoff]

I don't fantasize, you're the one asking me to do that. Our entire SVO is some kind of self-war. The soldiers buy everything for themselves, the civilians have to figure it out for themselves.

[faiver]

nothing strange, this is the generation of the 21st century, most of them are not ready to fight, not ready to kill the enemy, I wrote about this back in early August

[Trapp1st]

nothing strange, this is the 21st century generation, most of them are not ready to fight

It is unlikely that they were prepared for the fact that they would be thrown alone under artillery and tanks without the appropriate weapons. Yes, in principle, in a capitalist society, people should be recruited into the army, like into any other organization, exclusively for money. But the majority join the army so that the state will leave them alone, like to serve, the motivation is appropriate.

[AAK]

And so that the "school kids" wouldn't be left with an AK-74 and half a BC against Bandera's tanks, we had a bunch of "strategists" led by Mu-Mu and Khuzhenetovich, they absolutely fully deserved their brick wall, just like some people deserved a bench at a military tribunal (or maybe even in The Hague... it's not yet known what the "team of like-minded people" will have in mind...)

[Trapp1st]

And so that the "school kids" are not left with AK-74 and half-strength ammo against Bandera tanks, we have

The audience on the couch is surprised why schoolchildren did not want to become senseless suicide bombers.

[AAK]

And it is not necessary to raise your hands up when there is no possibility of organized resistance, it was quite possible, like the same guys who are written about in the article, to go into the forest and make your way to the east... well, and tell those who fought as conscripts in Afghanistan and Chechnya about the "unwillingness to be suicide bombers"... and what is interesting, you, my dear, somehow do not mention the role of the "guys with stripes"...

[Trapp1st]

go into the forest and make your way to the east...

It would have been possible; on the way we would have had to organize a raid on Kyiv.

and what's interesting is that you, my dear, somehow don't mention the role of the "guys with stripes"...

But you've already done it.

[Trapp1st]

Tell those who fought as conscripts in Afghanistan and Chechnya...

The militants and the Ukrainian Armed Forces differ slightly in small details, numbers, coordination, drones, chemical weapons, tanks, satellite reconnaissance, F16... nothing significant.

[faiver]

I am not surprised, such is the priest - such is the parish

[Egg]

Quote: faiver

most of them are not ready to fight, not ready to kill the enemy,

And can they kick people to the point of fractures and death, jump on the chest and head of a knocked-out old man? Oh yeah, they are children...

[faiver]

i.e. you attribute deviant behavior to all young people?

[Egg]

To the majority that you mention

[faiver]

Firstly, fighting the enemy in a war where you can be killed and dealing with someone defenseless are very different things, secondly, I don’t think that the majority of young people correspond to the example you gave above

[VladimirNET]

Quote: AAK

more than a hundred "school kids in uniform" who voluntarily raised their hands...

If you haven't watched the video, conscripts fought against tanks, without heavy weapons. How many tanks can you destroy with a machine gun?
It's already good that many remained alive - and returned in exchange: not everyone had the opportunity to retreat into the forest...

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Edik

This is the one who has spirit and something dangling between his legs!

Primary sexual characteristics are not always a manifestation of strength of spirit, just as baldness is not an indicator of great intelligence.

[Poplar]

Quote: ROSS 42

Quote: Edik

This is the one who has spirit and something dangling between his legs!

Primary sexual characteristics are not always a manifestation of strength of spirit, just as baldness is not an indicator of great intelligence.

As I understand it, we are talking about Faberge, which many people with primary sexual characteristics lack.

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

"There are four people surrounded soldier "They spent 39 days in military service" -

- "He is not used to being timid in trouble.
And step back.
So, it means that what they say is true:
Soldier - Always soldier" © ...

[Ross xnumx]

You can also add lines like these:

Is the enemy approaching from the flank?
Is there a threat of encirclement?
The soldier will successfully emerge from
Any position.
Here he climbed into his trench -
And the devil is no brother to him -
So, it means that what they say is true:
"A soldier is always a soldier."

[svp67]

As military expert Boris Rozhin noted, the guys are worthy of state awards.

Well done for not giving up, for sitting for a month and not trying to get back to your own people, now you can start asking questions of course..., but I think they won't do it too much, they'll reward you with medals and most likely dismiss you from the ranks first. But well done for holding out, you had to find food for yourself for a whole month and not be seen by the enemy...

[Grancer81]

In that case, the guys themselves decided what was more important, to break through and run into trouble or to stay and set a combat mission for themselves, what to do... Unlike some "professionals", they didn't cry and didn't throw their hands up in the air.

[Vik66]

And the relevance of the intelligence data after a month also raises great doubts... But first of all, well done for not getting caught and not giving up.

[Trapp1st]

And the relevance of the intelligence data after a month also raises great doubts...

Journalists ...

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

And the relevance of the intelligence data after a month also raises great doubts...

Intelligence data became irrelevant during the Great Patriotic War, when the front advanced 30-40 km per day. And as they advance in this war, this intelligence data will be relevant even in six months.
But the guys are real Warriors! Such actions inspire sincere respect!
These are the kind of 19-year-olds that schools should talk about. Those who not only did not surrender, but continued to carry out their combat mission while in the enemy rear, believing in victory.

[svp67]

Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi

And as they advance in this war, this intelligence will still be relevant in six months.

Yes, now... The enemy didn't have any stationary positions there, otherwise they would have found this "splinter" long ago, he made extensive use of sabotage and raiding groups there, which were not standing still, so the value of the intelligence they obtained can be questioned, they still need to be double-checked.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

so the value of the intelligence they obtained can be questioned, they still need to be double-checked

All intelligence data is double-checked. It can't be any other way.

[svp67]

Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi

All intelligence data is double-checked. It can't be any other way.

Wow ..

[Poplar]

The relevance of the intelligence data after a month also raises great doubts.

Firstly, how could they know when ours would return? They probably hoped for a day or two, as did most of our population, including me. Then this information would probably have come in handy. Secondly, collecting this intelligence is also a risky business. Good for them for not hiding in a hole, but for deciding to do something. Thirdly, we don’t know what information they collected, so discussing its value while sitting in the warmth of a combat couch is not only pointless, but also immoral. Fourthly, I am sure that even the information that was obtained will come in handy, perhaps not in operational terms, but in terms of reconstructing the picture of events: who was there, how many, where and when they went, etc.
So the guys are great in any case. If they had accepted the fight and died heroically with machine guns and a couple of grenades, they wouldn't have changed anything. So personally, I don't see the point in going "with a saber against tanks". They did what they could.

[ZnachWest]

Yes, at least compared to those fellow soldiers who much earlier in the bus returned cheerfully from captivity. Not at all embarrassed in front of the camera. Apparently, they considered it a cool life adventure.

[Montezuma]

Quote: svp67

We sat for a month and didn’t try to get back to our people, now we can of course start asking questions.

Apparently, they were firmly convinced that the Ukrainian Armed Forces would soon be pushed out of Russian territory and they would be back among their own people. It is difficult to judge their actions from the outside without being in that situation, one can only guess. But they are great guys for holding out in the forest on their own for quite a long time.

[Trapp1st]

survived on their own in the forest

in the area of ​​the village of Dar'ino

[dzvero]

that they sat for a month and didn’t try to get back to their people, now you can of course start asking questions....

They probably didn't expect that the wait for their own would drag on for a month. I think they assumed a week, maximum 10 days, so they decided that collecting tactical information was more valuable. A good decision and no worse than trying to break through to their own without knowing where the LBS is.

[svp67]

Quote: dzvero

So they decided that collecting tactical information was more valuable.

The value of which can be debated, but what's done is done and the very fact that they didn't give up and waited is already good, in light of what happened there and I think that more such "fragments" will be found there

[Stas157]

Quote: svp67

sat for a month and didn’t try to get to their own, here you can of course start asking questions....

And who knew it would take so long?? Did you hear what Gerasimov said at the beginning? Maybe the guys were optimists too! And they thought like all normal people. They thought a day or two and ours would come.

[svp67]

Quote: Stas157

Did you hear what Gerasimov said at the beginning?

You might as well tell me that they sat there and watched his performance on TV...

Quote: Stas157

We thought that in a day or two our people would come.

And then they got used to it, established their daily life and where could they go from farming... yes, yes... In 1941 and 42 there were many like that...

[Stas157]

Quote: svp67

And then they got used to it, established their daily life, and where else could they go from farming...yes, yes...

It's dangerous to go like that. It's easier, if possible, to get a phone number from the locals. And contact them. So that they can take you out. Going out at random is adventurous.

[svp67]

Quote: Stas157

It's easier, if possible, to get a phone number from the locals.

You want to say that they didn't have phones... It's a good thing they didn't use them, the enemy easily detected such groups thanks to their electronic warfare

[K-50]

Young, guys! I'm proud that there is such a youth replenishment!

[Lemon]

Real warriors!!! The whole country should praise such people! Compared to those who surrendered without a fight, they are like heaven and earth.

[opposite28]

To the sound of gunfire we went deeper into the forest and sat down there. When we heard Russian speech, two of our men came out. When we saw the first Russian man, my soul rejoiced.

- said one of the fighters named Alexey.

During the invasion of the Ukrainian Armed Forces into the Russian region, four conscripts found themselves surrounded near the village of Darino in the Korenevsky district. They had machine guns with a small number of cartridges and two grenades.

The forest knows who to protect. The question about medals and other things is rhetorical. And the question about the unit commander whose fighters turned out to be independent is no less important.

[ZovSailor]

[/i]“Private Ivan’s Group”: Four conscripts were surrounded in the Kursk region for more than a month, collecting information about the enemy[i]

Respect to the men!
This is who the government bureaucrats and the thieving generals of the Ministry of Defense should look up to instead of their fancy dachas and limousines with flashing lights!

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: ZovSailor

Respect to the men! This is who the government bureaucrats and the thieving generals of the Ministry of Defense should look up to...

Quote: oppozite28

The forest knows who to protect. The question about orders and other things is rhetorical

I think it is not rhetorical at all and the command is obliged to note the actions of the Fighters. It is a pity that there was no communication...

[your1970]

Respect to the men!
This is who the government bureaucrats and the thieving generals of the Ministry of Defense should look up to instead of their fancy dachas and limousines with flashing lights!

And how are they better? Because they hid in the forest and sat it out there?

[ZovSailor]

your1970
Today, 12: 20
[/i]And how are they better? Because they hid in the forest and sat it out there?[i]

Yes, they didn’t screw up and run away, but they should have accepted the fight, having assessed the situation or you
for terrorists and Nazis from there

[your1970]

Yes, they didn’t screw up and run away, but they should have accepted the fight, having assessed the situation
Where could they run? There is no front line, who you will meet is unknown...
We sat in the forest near the village for a month....

[ZovSailor]

your1970
Today, 15: 10
[/i]Where could they run? There is no front line, who you will meet is unknown....
We sat in the forest near the village for a month[i]

But is it too weak to sincerely and heartily rejoice for the salvation of Russian guys and their parents and their loved ones?
Or are you a complete orphan and childless, yearning for the next instructions from London-Fashington?

[your1970]

But is it too weak to sincerely and heartily rejoice for the salvation of Russian guys and their parents and their loved ones?

If you stayed alive - good, if you weren't captured/surrendered - even better.
But here feats I don't see any value in the information here monthly I don't see any time limit either.
Well, that's right choir comments - "Glorify them with the whole country! Reward them! These are the kind of 19-year-olds that we need to talk about in schools!!".

Let me remind you that in the USSR during the Great Patriotic War they would not have been praised - they were tested as encircled people

[ZovSailor]

your1970
Today, 15: 39

The latest instructions and guidelines have been sent to your address from London, keep in touch through the old channels, don't show yourself publicly. May faith save you.
lie detector to help

[your1970]

The latest instructions and guidelines have been sent to your address from London,
It would be better if they sent me my salary - I'll write according to the manuals and the old ones

If you know the difference between Feat и "were sitting in the forest" If you don't see it, this is already a problem for the army.

I repeat:
Let me remind you that in the USSR during the Great Patriotic War they would not have been praised - they were tested as encircled people

[nepunamemuk]

Let me remind you that in the USSR

Let me remind you that the USSR has been gone for thirty and three years
when these boys were born everyone had already forgotten about the USSR and their parents found it at a tender age

checked as encircled

most likely they are checking
The privates who escaped from the concentration camp with Devyatayev on a plane were at the front a month later and most of them died...

[BIGLESHIY]

Quote: your1970

Respect to the men!
This is who the government bureaucrats and the thieving generals of the Ministry of Defense should look up to instead of their fancy dachas and limousines with flashing lights!

And how are they better? Because they hid in the forest and sat it out there?

What a scumbag you are!!!

[your1970]

Quote: BIGLESHIY

Quote: your1970

Respect to the men!
This is who the government bureaucrats and the thieving generals of the Ministry of Defense should look up to instead of their fancy dachas and limousines with flashing lights!

And how are they better? Because they hid in the forest and sat it out there?

What a scumbag you are!!!

for you personally - in 1941-1945 there would have been no discussions on the topic of "Wow, well done! What a feat!!" - they would have all gone together to be checked in a filtration camp and then back to the front.
And then, damn, what a feat - they hid in the forest, they should take them to all the schools and tell them how to hide in the forest, yeah...
If they had destroyed the sabotage and reconnaissance group, there would have been no questions.

[Man999]

Dig a cache deep in the forest and sit there without sticking your nose out, or actually take on the functions of a reconnaissance group. Don't you feel the difference at all? And what information they obtained is not for us to judge. They showed initiative and were able to complete the task set before them.

[Man999]

Dig a cache deep in the forest and hide there or take on the functions of a reconnaissance group - don't you feel the difference at all?
The guys contacted the 155th Brigade, passed on targets to them for a month, which helped a lot in liberating Dar'ino. Not great at all?
They didn't chicken out, they showed initiative, they successfully completed the task they set for themselves - not at all great?
He doesn't deserve to be a Hero of Russia, but he definitely deserves the medals

[your1970]

Quote: Man999

The guys contacted the 155th brigade, a month TRANSMITTED them goals, which greatly helped in the liberation of Dar'ino

from the article:
"from where they monitored the enemy and collected information that COULD be useful to our military by marking it on the maps at their disposal."
then
"came out to our fighters and PASSED ON the information they collected, including the coordinates of the identified targets."
Where did you see that they are here?

Quote: Man999

they transmitted it for a month

?
The value of information monthly statute of limitations=0(zero)!!Even in WWII it was old information, and now - in an hour everything changes....

Quote: Man999

They didn't chicken out

- Maresyev didn't chicken out and crawled to the front. For which he was worthy of an award - for actions for Victory. And these quietly sat it out.....
I repeat once again:

Quote: your1970

In 1941-1945 there would have been no discussions on the topic of "Wow, great job! What a feat!" - they would have all gone together to be checked in a filtration camp and then back to the front.

[Maximum.1]

Bravissimi ragazzi per quello che avete fatto, siete un esempio per tutti gli altri.

[APASUS]

4 people for 39 days, you need at least a kilogram of food per day + water. What did you eat all this time? Judging by the fact that everyone is alive, they solved the food problem. Heroic guys!

[Glagol1]

A rare case. Almost 40 days in the forest... good thing it's summer, mushrooms, berries, help out. Didn't give up - that's how it should be, there's no chance to fight, we need to save our lives. There's no use in corpses...

[Trapp1st]

Almost 40 days in the forest... it's good that it's summer, mushrooms and berries help out.

What mushrooms, berries ? Are you seriously?

[SEVERIN]

Well done guys - you didn't lose your head and got valuable information, but you could have disappeared without a trace, well done!

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Edik

and there's something dangling between my legs!

Mdaaa...! Characteristic! The donkey also has "something dangling between its legs"!

[faiver]

Donkeys, by the way, are very smart animals, so it's in vain that you...

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: faiver

Donkeys, by the way, are very smart animals, so it's in vain that you...

Well, yes...and cows are stupid!

[however78]

The guys are handsome. Honor and Praise to them!!!

[turembo]

A great feat, well done guys. It's just a pity the source is channel Russia 1, with footage of a "real battle" and tactical regroupings.

[Mihail55]

Well done!!! I believe that after this war, there will be lessons of courage in school with the names of modern Matrosovs and Gastellos!

[ZnachWest]

In the SVO Gastello only one is known.

[Andrey VOV]

Judging by the photo, the boys are not yesterday's schoolchildren, apparently more than 18 years old, most likely not from the city. In general, well done, but still, now the military service is of course not at all what it was before, not that.

[ZnachWest]

What was it like before? Instead of one year, we spent two whole years swinging shovels?

[Andrey VOV]

If you don’t know, then what’s the point of talking? They swung shovels and fought and endured all the hardships as they should have.

[Glagol1]

I agree, Andrey VOV, but before they served for 2 years, now it's a year, that's a big difference. And of course, before no one really cared whether you were a conscript or not. Nevertheless, today's system seems more correct to me. Basic skills can be acquired in the rear, but fighting is a special matter. And the further (drones, electronic warfare, robots...) - the more difficult. Yes, the guys are great.

[Bully]

After reading the article, if you don’t give in to emotions, questions arose:
1. What is the fate of the rest of the unit's fighters? Did they fight and die, or did they surrender...?
2. If these four were the only ones in the area, what task were they performing?

[Comrade Beria]

The four conscripts spent 39 days surrounded until marines from the 155th Pacific Fleet Brigade liberated Darino.

And the Marines did not stop there, but continued their offensive. There are reports that our troops in the Kursk region have come close to Sverdlikovo.

The capture of this settlement will cut off the Korenevo-Sudzha road and will significantly complicate the logistics of the Nazis in the eastern part of the occupied territory,

[Konnick]

It's amazing what they ate and drank? It's possible to live in the forest, but it's hard to survive...

[faiver]

It says that it's in the forest, near the village, is that clearer?

[Konnick]

It says that it's in the forest, near the village, is that clearer?

No, it's not clearer. Even more questions... wander around the village in search of food?

[Nastia makarova]

that's how they got food from the abandoned village

[Konnick]

that's how they got food from the abandoned village

What can you take there? Canned meat? You can't eat raw potatoes and chicken - they'll spot you making a fire right away... I wish the journalists would share the information, maybe it will come in handy.

[Nastia makarova]

There is a lot of stuff in the cellars))) and the refrigerators were not empty, you could have stocked up, the first week they did not stay in the villages but moved forward and therefore they had the opportunity to wander around unnoticed

[Two]

Four people are behind enemy lines, they need to eat, drink, relieve themselves, and simply hide. They were watching the enemy, who has thermal imagers and drones with thermal imagers. As the media tells us, the villages were cleared of people by mercenaries and Azov units, which means there were no people there at all. Which doesn't fit with something.

[Nastia makarova]

the first weeks they didn't clean anything, there were empty villages, everyone was looking around with thermal imagers, in WWII they were in the rear for years and didn't find anything

[Two]

In the first weeks there was a purge, then the mercenaries left.

[Dilettante grandfather]

Damn! Sorry, tears are welling up in my eyes. This is the future and present of our country. These are our people in the truest sense of the word. And all this chaff from the combat couches, including me, is such a trifle... These guys are the main thing. And all sorts of doomsayers, conspiracy theorists - let them go to the West. These guys, even if there is a direct, nuclear conflict with the enemy, will defend our country. I have no doubts about this, and I do not doubt it.

[Sancho da Vinca]

How symbolic - "Private Ivan's Group"! I remembered an episode from the film "Only Old Men Are Going to Battle" - "And Private Infantry Vanya will leave his inscription on the Reichstag" (not close to the text). Almost 80 years, and the "password" has not changed...

[wandlitz]

Well done. You stayed alive. And you didn't just hide in the thicket, you kept watch.

[Alexander Salenko]

At the very least, this smells like an order of courage, and I would give it a hero.

[Slon_on]

The guys are great, they managed to survive and even brought some benefit. And how many similar cases will come to light as the Banderites are squeezed out of the Kursk region. Or they won't come to light: they found them, surrounded them, put them down, that's it.

[Mekey Iptyshev]

Not only these 4 fighters should be rewarded. But also the locals who supplied them with food and did not hand them over to the Ukrops. We have all kinds of people, and there are those who can sell.
Without food, these 4 fighters would not have lasted 39 days. Since they put coordinates on a paper map, it means they went to the village secretly. Someone in the village acted as a liaison and underground worker.

[Fangaro]

A conscript is 18-20 years old. And in the photo the men are older.
The State Duma is going to pass a law on the obligation of parents to support their children until they reach 23 years of age.
So are those conscripts in the photo? Or volunteers? And how old are they?
Conscripts were sent to Afghanistan. And many returned home, thanks to the officers.
After the fall of the USSR, conscripts were sent to serve in different units. And again, many returned, thanks to the officers.
And now conscripts are not soldiers?
All new citizens of the Russian Federation who have moved from other countries must register for military service at military registration and enlistment offices. And if the President says that it is necessary to defend our country, all these new citizens must go to defend it.
And should conscripts from us, residents of Moscow, Kazan, St. Petersburg, Grozny, Yekaterinburg, Makhachkala, Tver, Birobidzhan and other cities, remain in the city where they were called up?

[strannik1985]

A conscript is 18-20 years old.

From 18 to 30 years. Law "On military duty and military service".

[Sergei Fonov]

Let me try to comprehend what is written. During the invasion, the Ukrainian Armed Forces went into the forest near the village, that is, they did not break through into the forest with a fight, breaking away from the enemy. "Were you tracking the enemy!?" Did you put the information on maps? The value of information from a month ago is certainly powerful, and if you consider the fact that they transmitted the data not before the battle, but after they were "liberated from encirclement". They did not take part in the battle to liberate the village. They sat quietly in the forest, they certainly need to be awarded, but what about those who liberated the village?, and those encircled?

[Man999]

So many critics. The guys contacted the Marines and spent a month transmitting data to them. Although they probably could have whined and requested an evacuation group

[Sergei Fonov]

I expressed my opinion based on the article cited above. I haven’t read the article that says that the group supplied the Marines with intelligence information in real time for a month, contacting them by radio or sending a liaison. Please provide a link.