Major projects between Turkmenistan and Afghanistan have entered the implementation stage. What should we think about?

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Major projects between Turkmenistan and Afghanistan have entered the implementation stage. What should we think about?

Just a week ago, several significant events took place at once on the border between Turkmenistan and Afghanistan, at the Islim-Cheshme border checkpoint near the city of Serkhetabad (formerly the city of Kushka).

The program was opened by the Chairman of the People's Council of Turkmenistan G. Berdumuhamedov and the acting head of the Cabinet of Ministers of Afghanistan M. Akhund.



For this event, the border checkpoint was even rebuilt into a conference hall of sorts, and it must be said that there really was a reason for such a large-scale event. To assess this, let's look at the list of related projects.

Firstly, this is the opening of the railway bridge across the Kushka River, which connects the section of the railway from the Afghan city of Turgundi to the Turkmen city of Serkhetabad. In the city of Turgundi itself, the construction of a logistics complex and the next section of the railway - to the city of Herat - has begun.

Secondly, it was announced that the substation, which will receive electricity from Turkmenistan, is ready to be put into operation. This is part of the TAP-500 energy system project (Turkmenistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan). It provides for the continuation of the construction of power transmission lines to the Afghan provinces of Herat, Faryab and further south.

TAP-500 is the second project to supply electricity to Afghanistan from Central Asia, the first is CASA-1000 from Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan. Currently, in addition to these routes, Afghanistan also receives electricity from Iran and Uzbekistan, and Turkmenistan is only in fourth place in terms of revenue.

The development of TAP-500 will give Ashgabat at least a double increase in income - up to 95-100 million dollars per year, transit to Pakistan can increase this value by another 1,5 times. For Ashgabat, these are significant amounts of export.

Thirdly, simultaneously with the power lines and substations, the laying of fiber-optic communication lines from Turkmenistan to the same city of Herat begins, but in addition to communications, Afghanistan here gets the opportunity to enter into potential electrification of railway communication to Pakistan, stretching the route along the western route, bypassing the inconvenient and expensive to lay through the central Afghan highlands and Paropamiz.

Well, fourthly, and perhaps most importantly, the construction of the Shatlyk-1 gas compressor station and the beginning of the construction of the Serkhetabad-Herat gas line were launched. This is the same TAPI gas project that had been discussed for fifteen years and could not get to the implementation stage - the situation in Afghanistan did not allow for attracting investment funds to it.

It turns out that in September of this year, a start was given to the practical implementation of large projects in the Afghan direction, which for a long time could not move beyond the stage of examinations and calculations. The beginning of such practical interaction of the parties was laid in the second half of last year and was consolidated in the spring of this year.

It should be noted that this concerns not only energy related to Turkmenistan and Afghanistan. There have already been many materials on VO devoted to logistics and raw materials projects of China (Wakhan route), investment agreements of Afghanistan and Iran.

All this is connected with the processes of consolidation of various Taliban structures (banned in the Russian Federation), distribution of powers and areas of responsibility between them, formation of a more or less working horizontal line in areas of income and provinces and vertical power.

These processes were associated (and this continues to this day) with the activation of both the anti-Taliban opposition (especially in recent months), and we can see what this is connected with, as well as military actions of a third force in Afghanistan - cells and structures associated with ISIS (banned in the Russian Federation).

The former need to get their piece of the Afghan pie, and for obvious reasons it is becoming smaller and smaller for them (and since 2021 the prospects have been, to put it mildly, modest). The latter are acting against both the Taliban and the opposition to them, preventing any development in Afghanistan at all, it is simply chaos for the sake of chaos.

In fact, the banned ISIS exists there for this chaos. The anti-Taliban opposition is trying to act both through military operations and through international negotiations, and they are doing better on the international track than inside Afghanistan.

In this regard, the launch of the designated projects is very important for the Taliban not so much in terms of the specific economic effect - this will only become apparent in a few years, but in the context of the issue of self-recognition as a stage of transition from de facto recognition to de jure recognition.

Within the framework of UN resolutions, the Taliban still has the characteristics of a terrorist organization, but this is already being abandoned at the country level. Moreover, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan, China and Iran have done so.

The Taliban have already practically given the Pakistani government the “green light” to put pressure on the Pakistani Taliban itself, although they cannot and will not be able to completely refuse to interact with its structures (and this is impossible in principle).

In opposition to the Taliban, for obvious reasons, Tajikistan is working (although the CASA-1000 project has worked and will continue to work), there is uncertainty and outright lack of specificity in Moscow’s positions.

The US is against the official recognition of the Taliban, although in Afghanistan they themselves do not work purposefully for either side, having somewhat distanced themselves from Pakistan and Afghanistan. The European Union does not have a clear position, and will not have one until the US does.

On the other hand, since Europe is forced to compete with China for Central Asia, it is not in Brussels’ interests to counteract the ties between Afghanistan and Central Asia, and projects such as CASA-1000 or TAPI involve funds from supranational funds.

In this regard, the EU rather takes a neutral position on Afghanistan and will continue to do so until the “senior partner” decides on it.

It should be noted that the Afghan projects not described in this material are developments of the past ten to twelve years. Some of them, like the CASA-1000, were partially implemented earlier, the problem was that, as they say today, "there was no system."

The governments of H. Karzai and A. Ghani were more concerned with plans and calculations, discussions, under international financial aid, but in terms of implementation they usually referred to "threats". Later, in the last year and a half to two years of pro-American governance, the threats were already really significant.

The Taliban have simply taken most of the developments and are bringing them to fruition, using the tactic of water wearing away stone - with each new stage of infrastructure projects, their actual legitimacy grows. It also grows with each new international forum they try to attend. As we can see, this brings results.

It should be noted that in parallel with such "project legitimization" of the Taliban, other players are beginning to receive dividends (still small, but nevertheless) from a kind of "nests" that were previously left in the plan for work on the future market of Afghanistan. In addition to Iran and China, the role of Turkey should be noted here.

In particular, Turkish companies are involved in the extraction of Turkmen gas, which is intended for Afghanistan and will later go within the framework of TAPI; Turkish companies are involved in fiber optics and the TAP-500 project.

It would seem that the Turks themselves are not a gas power, not everything is great with energy and electricity, but there is (as usual) a nuance. Part of the Taliban movement are representatives of the political wing that has been solving issues in Qatar's Doha for many years, and Qatar for Ankara is, if not a brother, then a political and economic great friend. Similar political and economic preparations are used by other players.

For Russia, the launch of the projects in Turkmenistan and Afghanistan is a significant event, because, whatever one may say, we are not only “Eurocentric” by inertia, but also, as one aptly put it, “gas-centric.” Despite Turkmenistan’s real neutrality and its policy of “active non-alignment,” this state is one of the leaders in terms of natural gas reserves.

In this regard, the TAPI project will rather work in favor of the Russian inertial raw materials policy than in the negative. The estimated volume of TAPI is 33 billion cubic meters of natural gas per year, and Ashgabat has been targeting these volumes and this revenue for several years now. The logic there is quite transparent, because the fourth line to China is 15 billion cubic meters, "swap contracts" to Iran and further to the EU through Turkey sound very loud politically, but the real potential there is still ±10 billion cubic meters per year, and this still needs to be tested in practice, since there are too many participants in this process.

TAPI is very important for Ashgabat and at the same time will allow Turkmenistan to set a higher bar in trades in other directions. Here TAPI is more of a competitor to the Iran-Pakistan gas pipeline, which the Iranian side has long since completed, while the Pakistani side is dragging its feet with implementation. Things have already reached the point that Tehran has announced that it is giving Islamabad some time "to think about it," and then will file a case in international arbitration. If the volumes are not allocated to Pakistan, Iran will offer them to Iraq and Turkey, but in this case it will buy less from Turkmenistan. Of course, not everything is so straightforward there, but the general principle is exactly this - everything is interconnected.

So, Turkmen gas projects in this direction are quite neutral for us. The problem for Russia here is of a slightly different nature. Since the EU and China are now entering the stage of practical competition for Central Asia (O. Scholz's visit here is significant, but this is the subject of a separate article), then this competition will not even go along the lines of loans as such, but along the lines of creating technological production.

Thus, sooner or later, Afghanistan's raw materials problems will be solved by its neighbors, but the neighbors will also take over this new market, although in Russia the words Afghanistan and sales market usually have little connection with each other in expert assessments.

For now, we are supplying significant volumes of fuel there. The CSTO program to strengthen the border between Tajikistan and Afghanistan is also being revived. This certainly cannot be called a senseless waste of money, this is the right direction of work, but on the scale of the overall processes that are happening around Afghanistan, this is only a small part, only indirectly related to the future economic development of the region.

There is no doubt that Afghanistan still needs us for insurance. No one knows yet what the US strategic pause in this region will mean in the future. For now, this is so, but after next January, American international policy will also be reassembled from different elements and different periods into something common and integral.

Even the US itself is not trying to guess what it will be like. Accordingly, Afghanistan will also strive to maintain fairly close ties with us in terms of politics. However, politics is politics, but what will we be able to offer to this market in some time? Afghanistan and Pakistan are a large consumer, it is undesirable to miss them, but what will we work with?

Here Russia needs to somehow decide, while there is such a political reserve and synergy of interests. We can work on this as Turkey did, for example, or we may not work on it. We need to understand whether we want to have a market share there or not.

At least this, otherwise we will be thinking about why Turkmenistan earns money there on electricity, the Chinese use this electricity and gas to pump oil and collect lithium, Uzbekistan sells conditional televisions there, the Iranians transport goods through ports where there are Afghan berths, etc. Just so that after some time, in response to the question “where is our share here?” we do not see that our share is “to strengthen the border” and “to provide political assistance.”
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  1. +4
    23 September 2024 05: 03
    Within the framework of UN resolutions, the Taliban still has the characteristics of a terrorist organization, but this is already being abandoned at the country level. Moreover, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan, China and Iran have done so.

    Since the time of Shevardnadze, only an Armenian has replaced a Georgian; there have been no other changes.
  2. 0
    23 September 2024 05: 05
    So far there are close ties between the Turkic peoples. They are close to each other in mentality. But to establish ties with Afghanistan, major specialists in Central Asia are needed. It won't work here off the cuff.
    1. +1
      23 September 2024 09: 53
      Quote: Nikolay Malyugin
      And to establish connections with Afghanistan, we need major specialists in Central Asia. It won't work here on the spur of the moment.


      A strange statement... if we follow this logic, it turns out that Afghanistan's neighbors have major specialists in it, but Russia doesn't? What kind of specialists are there in Turkmenistan/Pakistan/Turkey and other countries that allow such projects to be implemented?

      In my opinion, the problem is not in the specialists (Orientalists, MFA employees who have knowledge about Afghanistan, etc.), it is rather a question of political will and the right course chosen. After all, we have proclaimed a "turn to the East", so why not single out Central Asia as a separate "case", without taking into account the PRC.

      Create a structure or vest powers and tasks in an existing body that will work specifically on Central Asia (Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Afghanistan, Mongolia, etc.), with the aim of implementing economic projects of Russia – Central Asia, + to tie the region to us.

      Now, it is true that there are some advances here, in the implementation of joint projects (the same Uzbekistan, and other countries in the region), but all this is happening on a bilateral basis, and we need to work more globally, especially since there are large projects in the region where Russia does not participate at all, and this needs to be corrected.
      1. 0
        24 September 2024 01: 18
        Quote: Aleksandr21
        In my opinion, the problem is not in the specialists (there are enough orientalists, employees of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs who have knowledge about Afghanistan, etc.), it is rather a question of political will and the right course chosen.

        In my opinion, the problem is that on the Russian side, people with whom the Afghans are interested in cooperating do not have the resources. The resources in Russia are in the hands of politicians, oligarchs and "diplomats-orientalists" whom the Afghan business regards as a parasitic layer. In addition, this year Russia issued a directive banning trade with Afghanistan in flour and sugar. The food business is interested in having a supplier that can be relied upon precisely in a difficult critical period of time. Although a little earlier the Russian Foreign Ministry declared gifts of grain to Africa under the control of its distribution by countries supplying weapons to Ukraine as a great achievement. Or huge grain deliveries to Turkey for its flour mills. Although it was possible to supply flour to Afghanistan.
  3. +6
    23 September 2024 05: 29
    Major projects between Turkmenistan and Afghanistan have entered the implementation stage. What do we need to think about?

    We only need to think about how to dry up the streams and rivulets of illegal migration to Russian territory. Stop voicing fables about "peace and friendship between nations." Just look at the iron doors in apartments and the Kremlin walls with a pass system. The border should not be a walk-through yard, so that, waking up one morning, we do not find ourselves in the company of unfamiliar armed people.
    * * *
    As for Afghanistan, we need to decide only so that events similar to the tragedy in Crocus City do not happen, and remember that the enemy of my enemy may be a friend, but he is not obliged to...
    1. +3
      23 September 2024 06: 52
      Well, to be objective, there are no flows of migrants from Turkmenistan, not even streams. There are no drops of them. The reasons there are, of course, extremely peculiar and their leadership is not particularly praised (that's a separate story), but there really are no migrants from there.
      1. +2
        23 September 2024 07: 01
        I think that this is not least due to gas and the gas pipeline.
        1. +3
          23 September 2024 07: 06
          Not for this reason. There are restrictions on issuing foreign passports and exit permits, well, and entry. There are many nuances in the details, it would even be possible to make an addition to the previous material "Turkmenistan - opportunities that are difficult, but need to be understood and used" https://topwar.ru/248719-turkmenbashi-i-ko.html. In general, gas is not a direct reason here.
          1. +3
            23 September 2024 07: 14
            Quote: nikolaevskiy78
            In general, gas is not the direct cause here.

            The link shows that the main reason is gas. More precisely, the income from it.
            1. +1
              23 September 2024 07: 20
              Neither the Russian population, which by the early 2000s still remained in the republic in significant numbers, nor the average Turkmen business were prepared for such a turn of events. Passport and visa restrictions reach the point of reaction at the interstate level and begin to specifically complicate life.

              There was not enough gas money for both paternalism and the large-scale white marble construction projects of the Central Asian Dubai.


              Well then we need to clarify that it is not so much due to gas, but rather to the far from rational approach to using the income from it. Or do you mean something else?
              1. +1
                23 September 2024 08: 06
                Quote: nikolaevskiy78
                Well then we need to clarify that it is not so much due to gas, but rather to the far from rational approach to using the income from it. Or do you mean something else?

                I mean that the income was spent, if not on the development of society, then on relative stability, because the demographic pressure, I am sure, is at the level of the rest of Central Asia. Or do you mean by a rational approach the squandering of income abroad? wink
                1. +2
                  23 September 2024 08: 10
                  Or do you mean by a rational approach the loss of income abroad?

                  It is possible to "spend" income irrationally, as you figuratively put it, within the country. Stability can also be different.
                  The population there had doubled by the time the USSR collapsed, but the current 6,7 million people are, of course, not a very high figure compared to their neighbors.
          2. 0
            23 September 2024 16: 25
            By the way, I owe you an apology for accusing you of being a Zionist. After reading more of your work, I realized I was speaking out of ignorance.

            Since I was clearly mistaken, I hope you can accept my sincere apologies.
            1. 0
              24 September 2024 06: 56
              Yes, apologies accepted. Best regards. hi
        2. +1
          23 September 2024 09: 05
          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          I think that this is not least due to gas and the gas pipeline.

          This is thanks to the policy there padishah a president who doesn't let anyone in or out of the country...
      2. +2
        23 September 2024 09: 08
        Quote: nikolaevskiy78
        but there really are no migrants from there

        As soon as the great Arkadag, or whoever is in charge there now, lets go of the reins, we will see Turkmens on our streets...
        1. +1
          23 September 2024 09: 13
          It won't let go for a long time laughing It's only been 34 years.
      3. 0
        23 September 2024 09: 35
        Quote: nikolaevskiy78
        Well, to be fair, there is none from Turkmenistan.

        To be fair, I'll say that you're right. I'm the one in a hurry, I was typing quickly, getting ready to go to the store and thinking about Tajikistan...
        And in praise of Turkmenistan, I will say that they have one of the lowest government debts: 4th place in the world after Kuwait...
        hi
      4. 0
        23 September 2024 13: 11
        From Turkmenistan, no. From Kazakhstan, no. The entire flow is three countries, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, and Kyrgyzstan. In my opinion, it could be blocked, but the flow from the 404th, Moldova, has dried up, and in conditions of a labor shortage, they are not touching it. In vain, of course. They are already filling the places where native residents of the Russian Federation should work - medicine, education.
    2. 0
      23 September 2024 13: 56
      Quote: ROSS 42
      We need to think only about the flow and streams of illegal migration to the territory of Russia. Stop voicing fables about "peace and friendship between people". Just look at the iron doors in the apartments and the Kremlin walls with access control. The border should not be a passage yard, so that when we wake up one morning we do not find ourselves in the company of unfamiliar armed people.

      based.

      . Trust me, you don't want to be part of this abomination. Just look at their clothes, and the fact that they don't even think about integrating into the host culture makes me despise them even more. They are a cancer aimed at converting the locals, and they are all sponsored by the Saudi Satanic Wahhabi Cult. It would be better to adopt a zero visa policy for all countries with "stan" in their name, plus all Arabs.

      Even if they don't commit crimes, their mere presence with their hideous curly long beards and traditional dress disrupts social cohesion. It's a sad reality, but not all races and cultures are created equal. You need to put pressure on the government because, although no government will admit it, all Aryan countries have a low birth rate problem. Since only non-Aryans are immigrating, there should be a strict one-year policy where after a year of work they must spend a year outside the country before they can apply for a visa again. Protect your Aryan DNA. Let them call you racists; they already call countries like Iran, Russia and China worse.
      1. +2
        23 September 2024 15: 57
        They are a cancerous tumor aimed at converting the locals and they are all sponsored by the Saudi Satanic Wahhabi Cult

        More precisely, you will not say ...
    3. +5
      24 September 2024 01: 30
      Quote: ROSS 42
      We only need to think about how to stop the streams and rivulets of illegal migration into Russian territory.

      The most interesting thing is that low-skilled workers, maximum salesmen, go to Russia. Average welders already prefer to stay in Uzbekistan. And the flow of talented youth from Russia through Central Asia to South Korea, Europe, Turkey and North Africa for education and intellectual work has begun. A new trend is that a 9th-grader from Moscow receives Kyrgyz citizenship, enters a Russian school in Kyrgyzstan and after graduating goes, for example, to South Korea where he has the opportunity to study and earn good money. The inflating of phobias in Russia towards all migrants provokes an increase in the share of the bandit element among them. There must be a mechanism for preventing criminals and a liberal respectful attitude towards cultured intelligent representatives of migration. Moreover, it is very dangerous to replace the fight against crime with the fight against foreigners.
      1. 0
        24 September 2024 05: 01
        Quote: gsev
        Moreover, it is very dangerous to replace the fight against crime with the fight against foreigners.

        But what wonderful series about noble police officers have been filmed in recent years...
        1. +1
          24 September 2024 15: 49
          But what wonderful series about noble police officers have been filmed in recent years...
          Reply
          Quote

          - open any article about migrants and you will see hysterics at the level of "Throw them out!" And it is not the police shouting.

          And regarding the police, I cited statistics - in 2023, out of 980 crimes, 000 were committed by foreigners and stateless persons (of which about 42 were document forgeries).
          The ratio is not in favor of Russian citizens....
          1. 0
            24 September 2024 16: 15
            Quote: your1970
            - open any article about migrants and you will see hysterics at the level of "Throw them out!"And it's not the police shouting.

            And why should she scream? She gets her money both at the level of district police officers and at the level of detectives... How many of them are shown huddled in corners during mass fights...
            Quote: your1970
            The ratio is not in favor of Russian citizens...

            And here there is only one attitude: we live in our own country...
            1. +1
              24 September 2024 17: 17
              And here there is only one attitude: we live in our own country...
              In your own country it is probably possible
              - we want and we kill, rob, rape?
              940 crimes OUR citizens commit.

              She receives her money both at the district police officer level and at the detective level. - Do you want to hear about corrupt and bastard Soviet cops? You know me - I can dig up a mountain of examples... Just look at the epic on Zhdanovskaya...

              A long-distance truck driver I know got run over by bandits in the 1990s, he was taken out to the forest in a truck under a gun, chopped up with a crowbar and buried. There were traffic cops on the road, they were intrigued - why did the truck go to the forest, they got there and there was a fresh grave. They dug him up, called the ambulance, caught up with the truck. In the shootout, one bandit was killed, two were given life sentences - there were several graves in the forest.
              Since then he loves the sounds of police sirens. Try to prove to him that "The entire police force is corrupt, they get money and cower"
              1. 0
                24 September 2024 17: 21
                Quote: your1970
                OUR citizens commit 940 crimes.

                The crimes our citizens commit are in no way in line with what our Russian government is doing. Don't waste your time on my education, look here:
                1. -1
                  25 September 2024 06: 03
                  The crimes that our citizens commit are in no way consistent with what our Russian government is doing.
                  The previous government, the Soviet one, stole the entire country, and what it couldn’t steal, it squandered.
      2. 0
        24 September 2024 18: 18
        By the way, the topic of Japan and South Korea is generally avoided in our media. How they manage to do this, given the work of the Koreans and their connections with Uzbekistan in general, I have no idea.
        1. 0
          24 September 2024 19: 07
          Quote: nikolaevskiy78
          I have no idea.

          Perhaps orientalists simply consider it beneath their dignity to contact people who can enlighten them on sensitive topics in the history and politics of the East. For example, when I was an electrical engineer, I had the opportunity to speak frankly with Dudayev's secretary about the role of A. Politkovskaya in the terrorist underground, about the reasons why Sarvari found refuge among those against whom he fought, or about the organizers and perpetrators of the kidnapping of Korean women in Kabul. Moreover, my interlocutor saw the door and the lock behind which the Korean women were locked. I am surprised why the Russian Foreign Ministry does not try to collect information about foreigners graduating from universities in Russia or Russian schools in Central Asia and adjust the educational process based on this information.
          1. 0
            24 September 2024 19: 14
            There is a lot of incomprehensible and "sort of mysterious" stuff there, if you remove from the assessments the relationship between Dushanbe and some part of the Moscow elite. I just don't want to write about the latter.
            Only a blind person or someone who pretends to be blind for certain purposes can fail to see the Korean factor in Uzbekistan. As for the educational process, you know how many Russian-speaking engineers there are in Afghanistan, there is not always work for them. But the reconstruction of Kabul alone, partly built during the USSR, with its boiler houses, substations, and treatment facilities costs millions of dollars. Real estate there is quite expensive by Middle Eastern standards, given the infrastructure and climate. Arabs build squares, mosques, and parks. So come and build, hire Russian-speaking engineers, many of whom studied with us even in modern times. But no. No time for that... The main thing is that everyone says that the Afghans have no money. They will find it if they understand their intentions. They have everything there and the salaries are often higher than in the Middle East.
  4. +1
    23 September 2024 07: 01
    All over the world, without forgetting about their own benefit, they also think about the benefit of the states. And only in modern Russia, if there is no benefit for officials, then nothing will be done.
    That's why the title is not clear, we wonder who it is for?
    1. -12
      23 September 2024 07: 30
      Soros school, obvious Russophobia
      Quote: Gardamir
      All over the world, without forgetting about their own benefit, they also think about the benefit of states.
      Bulk.
      Quote: Gardamir
      And only in modern Russia, if there is no benefit for officials, then nothing will be done.


      Quote: Gardamir
      That's why the title is not clear, we wonder who it is for?

      That's why it's not clear where you were bitten?
      1. +5
        23 September 2024 08: 17
        At least a simple example. YouTube, which is for users. And Rutube, which feeds Gazprom, so Rutube doesn't care about visitors.
        And what don't you like is that I have a different opinion?
        1. -6
          23 September 2024 08: 22
          It's clear that Gardamir doesn't expose the office! laughing
  5. -3
    23 September 2024 07: 57
    All that's left is to wait until the spirits start tearing apart the iron and power lines)))
    1. 0
      24 September 2024 01: 32
      Quote: TermNachTER
      All that's left is to wait until the spirits start tearing apart the iron and power lines)))

      It is problematic to wage guerrilla warfare against the Taliban. The level of violence in Afghanistan is now lower than in Russia, Israel and Belarus. It has been easier to die a violent death in Minsk or Moscow than in Kabul for a year now.
      1. 0
        24 September 2024 08: 58
        Yeah, all the central authorities in Kabul always thought that they were cool and everything was great, and then the problems started)))
        1. 0
          24 September 2024 18: 52
          Quote: TermNachTER
          all the central authorities in Kabul always thought that they were cool and everything was great

          After the US left, Afghanistan was predicted to suffer a famine. The fact that under the Taliban, nothing similar to the famine in the Volga region under Lenin happened already speaks to their level of competence in politics. By the way, the Taliban actually suppressed the guerrilla movement in Panjshir in a couple of months, which the FSB and the Soviet Army failed to do in years. Moreover, those who fought against the Taliban were those who defeated the Soviet paratroopers in Panjshir or their descendants. The US and Tajikistan did not really have time to develop cooperation to help the anti-Taliban guerrillas.
          1. 0
            24 September 2024 19: 03
            By the way, the partisan movement in Panjshir

            You can't escape from the Taliban to Pakistan.
            1. +1
              24 September 2024 19: 10
              Quote: strannik1985
              You can't escape from the Taliban to Pakistan.

              The Taliban do not run after anyone without reason. In Afghanistan, even the level of anti-Semitism under the Taliban was lower than under Stalin during the era of the "doctors-saboteurs plot".
              1. 0
                24 September 2024 19: 13
                The Taliban don't run after anyone without reason.

                Not about that. All the 40th Army's operations to take control of the gorge ended the same way, but then the mujahideen came from Pakistan and everything started all over again. The so-called opposition did not have a strong ally on the border, no one needed them except the Americans.
                1. 0
                  25 September 2024 18: 58
                  Quote: strannik1985
                  The so-called opposition did not have a strong ally on the border

                  The US would gladly supply the opposition via Tajikistan by air, but the Taliban defeated the opposition before the US and Tajikistan agreed on plans to supply the opposition. Now, given the Taliban's lack of fighter aircraft and air defense, it is much easier to supply the guerrillas in Afghanistan than it was in the late 1980s.
                  1. 0
                    25 September 2024 19: 29
                    USA with pleasure through Tajikistan

                    Why do Russia and China need this?
          2. 0
            24 September 2024 19: 33
            Hunger in Afghanistan is a permanent phenomenon, people have gotten used to it. The country itself is a tangle of contradictions - national, religious, tribal.
            1. 0
              25 September 2024 18: 49
              Quote: TermNachTER
              Famine in Afghanistan is a permanent phenomenon
              In Afghanistan, families have 5 children and it seems no one dies of hunger.
              1. 0
                25 September 2024 19: 16
                In Afghanistan, ten children in a family is not uncommon, for them the word contraception is some kind of infidel curse word))) but ask these families, how often did they eat their fill?
  6. +3
    23 September 2024 08: 10
    we need to get our piece of the Afghan pie
    And who will knock it out? State corporations or private businesses? It seems the former are not very interested, it is expensive, the latter too
    1. 0
      24 September 2024 18: 54
      Quote: kor1vet1974
      And who will knock it out? State corporations or private businesses?

      It is enough not to create obstacles for independent businessmen in favor of Russian monopolies.
  7. 0
    23 September 2024 08: 11
    Russia is mired in a conflict with Ukraine and is missing out on projects that it could develop under its own nose. In this way, we will have to prove not just the status of a global leader, but at least a regional one.
  8. +1
    23 September 2024 09: 13
    Yes.
    Interesting material that adds detail without changing the essence expressed in:
    At the moment, the Russian Federation lacks two fundamental things
    1. a meaningful long-term strategy regarding the southeast (and in what direction is it, by the way?)
    2. a meaningful long-term strategy for the development of certain industries for export purposes and the resulting creation of industry influence in certain regions.
    "Our destiny is to "strengthen the border" and "help politically" - that's how it is, and that's how it will be, with high probability. Not because evil opponents left this destiny, but because there is no ambition for another.
    sad
  9. 0
    23 September 2024 09: 59
    Tajikistan is also working in opposition to the Taliban for obvious reasons (although the CASA-1000 project has worked and will continue to work), There is uncertainty and outright lack of specificity in Moscow’s positions.

    In Moscow they want a personal tip, there's no other way to understand it...
    but everywhere we talk about the "global south"...
  10. 0
    23 September 2024 11: 16
    ...In this regard, the TAPI project will rather work in favor of Russia’s inertial raw materials policy than in the negative...
    Yes, Mikhail, you can write it that way). But to understand all THIS, the working population of our country, in my opinion, needs to understand it differently: "- The regime of dominance of private property of the Russian financial and commercial oligarchy continues to inertia strangle the vitally necessary scientific, technological and industrial development of our country (. And, the most vile thing in this situation is that they will "peddle" what does not belong to them, even falling into the abyss of History (.

    PS I willingly believe.
  11. 0
    27 September 2024 21: 37
    Why this question, we need to build in our country for the future, there is a lot of work