Potential of the Inokhodets UAV

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Potential of the Inokhodets UAV
UAS "Inohodets" means: control station and unmanned aerial vehicles. Photo by Kronstadt Group


Several years ago, an unmanned aerial vehicle was adopted into service by the Russian Aerospace Forces. aviation the Inokhodets system, built around the heavy unmanned aerial vehicle of the same name. It was first used in real combat conditions in Syria, and since 2022 it has been taking part in the Special Operation to Protect Donbass. During combat sorties Drones "Inohodets" demonstrates its capabilities and high potential.



In a difficult class


The development of the future Inokhodets began in 2011. Initially, it was carried out by the Transas enterprise, but then the project was transferred to the Kronstadt Group. The experimental design work was carried out under the code name Inokhodets, and at a certain stage the drone received the name Orion.

By the middle of the decade, the project was completed, and flight tests began in 2016. In 2017, the Orion UAV was first demonstrated to the general public at the aerospace show. It should be noted that the exhibition featured the export version of the drone with the letter "E".

In 2019, the Inokhodets unmanned aircraft system entered the experimental military operation stage. The Aerospace Forces received the first UAS, which included three drones, a control station, and other necessary equipment.

Later it became known that the new UAVs took part in the Syrian operation of the Russian armed forces. They were used for reconnaissance, identifying terrorist targets and striking them. The promising UAV demonstrated high performance and was recommended for adoption.


"Inohodets" in combat flight. TPK is suspended under the fuselage missiles X-UAV. Photo by the Russian Ministry of Defense

At the end of 2021, the Kronstadt Group commissioned a new plant in the Moscow region city of Dubna. This plant was planned to establish production of the Inokhodets UAV for the Ministry of Defense and other customers.

Soon the production was launched, and the first drones of the new model were sent to the VKS units. Probably, the production of "Inohodtsev" continues to this day, however, the volume of orders from the Ministry of Defense, the rate of production and other details, for obvious reasons, remain unknown.

Combat application


By now, the Inohodtsy have accumulated significant experience in combat. They were first used in a real operation around 2016–2018 in Syria. The new type of UAS were then used for surveillance and reconnaissance. Data from the UAVs was used in planning and conducting various activities.

At the end of 2019, it became known that the strike capabilities of the Inokhodets were also tested in Syria. The drone successfully found and hit ground targets. Interestingly, during these tests, several new types of weapons specially developed for such drones were also tested.

In Syria, the Pacers operated in relatively simple conditions. The terrorist groups that were the targets of the strikes did not have serious anti-aircraft weapons, and the UAVs were free to operate. Fire from the ground posed virtually no threat to them.


The operator of the "Inohodets" at work. Photo by the Russian Ministry of Defense

In February-March 2022, the "Inohodtsy" began to actively participate in the Special Operation to protect Donbass. As before, they carried out reconnaissance missions, hit ground targets and provided support to other fire weapons. The Ministry of Defense and unofficial sources have repeatedly published footage of the combat use of these heavy UAVs.

It is curious that the work of the "Amblers" is covered rather poorly. Only a few videos and press releases have been published over the entire period. In addition, there was a long break in the publication of such materials, and it was resumed only recently.

The reasons for the information deficit remain unclear. It may be due to the general secrecy that is characteristic of the use of all the latest weapons and equipment. There is also a version about a temporary reduction in the activity of the "Inohodtsev" due to the presence of a developed air defense system in the enemy. Until it was possible to disable it by other means, the heavy drones did not participate in combat operations.

Multipurpose sample


The Inokhodets is a heavy-duty UAV capable of carrying reconnaissance equipment and weapons. It is built using a normal aerodynamic design and has a high aspect ratio fuselage, a straight wing, and a V-shaped tail unit.

The length of the UAV is 8 m, the wingspan is 16,3 m. The maximum takeoff weight is 1 t, and the payload is 200 kg.

The drone is equipped with a 115 hp piston engine with a pusher propeller. Cruising speed does not exceed 200 km/h, but at the same time provides a high range and duration of flight. The UAV is capable of staying in the air for more than a day. Due to such characteristics, the UAV can be classified as a MALE class. "Inohodets" is one of the first domestic examples of this class.


Small-sized ammunition for UAVs. Photo Wikimedia Commons

The on-board control system allows the drone to execute operator commands or independently solve simple piloting tasks. In the standard configuration, the Inokhodets is equipped with an optical-electronic station (OES) for reconnaissance and the use of weapons. Several OES options with different characteristics are offered. It is also possible to install additional devices, such as a side-view radar station, etc.

The drone is controlled from a ground station, which is built in a van on a car chassis. The kung is equipped with automated operator workstations with all the necessary equipment and communication facilities. Thanks to the use of repeaters, the station can control the UAV at a distance of hundreds or even thousands of kilometers.

There are several weapon mounts under the Inokhodets fuselage. A range of guided 25 and 50 kg bombs was developed for heavy reconnaissance and strike UAVs. Free-fall ammunition of the same weight can also be used. The Kornet-D ATGM was used to create the Kh-UPLA guided missile, equipped with a semi-active laser homing head.

Key Benefits


The Inokhodets UAS, built on the basis of the heavy UAV of the same name, has important features and advantages. Its strengths are applied in real conditions and demonstrate the significant potential of the entire system.

The main advantages of the "Inohodets" are related to its flight and technical characteristics. This drone is capable of flying for up to 24 hours and moving hundreds of kilometers from the launch site. Thanks to this, broad operational capabilities are achieved for performing various tasks - both reconnaissance and strike.


"Inohodets" works on armored vehicles. Photo by the Russian Defense Ministry

The "Inohodets" should be considered as a universal aerial platform capable of carrying loads of various purposes. Its 200 kg load capacity significantly increases the range of compatible loads and provides broad operational capabilities.

A new line of guided munitions has been developed for the Inokhodets and other modern UAVs. New types of missiles and bombs are capable of hitting a variety of targets at a distance of up to 8-10 kilometers. The small caliber of the ammunition is compensated by high accuracy. When using such weapons, the UAV remains outside the enemy's range Defense short range.

At the same time, the "Inohodets" is exposed to threats from longer-range anti-aircraft missile systems and fighter aircraft. A drone of this kind is quite easy to detect and disable using modern means. In this regard, special requirements arise for the preparation and conduct of a combat sortie in order to avoid unjustified risks for the UAV.

Promising direction


Thus, the "Inohodets" became one of the first domestic UAVs belonging to the MALE class, which is new for our Aerospace Forces. It has a successful combination of technical characteristics and combat capabilities, which determines its overall potential. The "Inohodets" UAV successfully passed tests and was accepted into service.

Serial "Inohodtsy" have been in service for quite a long time and are used to perform combat missions. However, they are not the only ones of their kind. Currently, there are other UAVs with similar capabilities, and new MALE-class projects are being developed. The emergence of domestic UAVs of this kind has already significantly expanded the capabilities of the VKS, and their number will only grow in the future.
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  1. 0
    20 September 2024 07: 55
    Based on the Kornet-D ATGM, the Kh-UAV guided missile was created, equipped with a semi-active laser homing head. But regarding the GSN, it’s a matter of opinion! bully
    1. The comment was deleted.
    2. +9
      20 September 2024 12: 55
      The General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces does not have a concept for using UAVs! It has not been created or adopted! There is no such concept even at the tactical level. During combat operations, fighters began using mini-drones out of complete hopelessness. Leaders noticed and began to develop this direction. They suddenly, unexpectedly, after 30 years, noticed the increasing role of UAVs.
      Now the question is: how justified is this use of UAVs and does it meet the requirements of modern warfare?
      From hopelessness to progressive thought at once? Is it possible? But at least now, accept the concept of using UAVs. What are academies, military centers, scientists doing? Nothing? How can UAVs be developed if there are no requirements for them, if there is no concept of use?
      The General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces has no concept of modern combat! How do we fight? Our leaders are spectators, and the perpetrators are to blame for everything! The Gerasimovs have settled in comfortably! It won't work. You will answer for everything...
      1. 0
        20 September 2024 18: 08
        Sabotage! I bet that a great many Russian generals are CIA agents! They are sabotaging all the key paths of development of the military-industrial complex! DARPA, as a single center that actually produces and supplies the necessary weapons, has not appeared in the Russian Federation. Simple carts with machine guns, as air defense against slow strategic Kamikaze UAVs, have not appeared, Ukrainians warehouses and oil refineries are being taken out. Even simple ammunition for the FPV, the drone operators make themselves, drop a regular FOG on a tank or an infantry fighting vehicle, but where is the cumulative FOG?, there is none. I am not even talking about the homing heads for Grad or 152 mm shells. In short, the Party is not united with the people at all!
      2. +2
        21 September 2024 04: 24
        In light of what you said
        The UAS "Inohodets" has successfully passed tests and was adopted.
        Allow me to question, if it was adopted, then under what letter? request
        1. +3
          21 September 2024 19: 47
          Quote: Popandos
          The Inokhodets UAS successfully passed tests and was accepted into service.
          allow me to doubt

          "Inohodets" really started to enter service in 2021, but already in 2022 there were problems with their production - as always, engines. Work on larger propeller-driven UAVs also came to a standstill for the same reason - in Germany, our former compatriot who had established the production and supply of engines was arrested and sentenced to prison. And in the Russian Federation, apparently, they did not have time to localize their production, although the task was set. Now, perhaps, the task is somehow being solved.
          There is nothing much for such devices to do above and behind the LBS because of the enemy's air defense. But in cauldrons where air defense means are no longer present (like above the Kursk Bulge) they have a real field day. They should be patrolling over sea areas tracking down and destroying BEKs.
  2. BAI
    -4
    20 September 2024 07: 55
    It is curious that the work of the "Amblers" is covered rather poorly. Only a few videos and press releases have been published over the entire period. In addition, there was a long break in the publication of such materials, and it was resumed only recently.

    They just rarely use it. The much smaller Orlan costs 10 million.
    and drones are expendable. too expensive to lose constantly
    1. +1
      20 September 2024 08: 29
      Quote: BAI
      They just rarely use it. The much smaller Orlan costs 10 million.

      Because there are few of them, only the production capacities have been deployed! Our generals, as always, were preparing for the last war.
      1. +1
        20 September 2024 08: 48
        Quote: Edik
        only the production capacities have been deployed

        As far as I remember, Shoigu also reported that the plant for their production would start operating in November 2022. Something tells me that once again... they rushed (that's far from the right term).
        1. 0
          20 September 2024 09: 05
          We built more, as always.
      2. -1
        20 September 2024 13: 30
        No, Bayraktars haven't been seen for a long time either. Apparently MALEs aren't suitable for such a conflict - they quickly become targets themselves.
        1. +2
          20 September 2024 19: 31
          According to published data, the irretrievable losses of Il-2 attack aircraft amounted to 11448 aircraft. This does not mean that they were not suitable for that war.
          A drone, even a large one, is also a consumable item. If they are produced in thousands or tens of thousands, like the Il-2, then they will do just fine.
          1. -2
            21 September 2024 00: 02
            I wonder how the IL-2 and the Inokhodets compare in terms of technical complexity and production costs, adjusted for the year, of course?

            I don't think anyone can produce them in tens of thousands. The same Geraniums probably produce no more than a few hundred a month.
    2. -1
      20 September 2024 10: 22
      This UAV has no engine - that's one! This UAV has no satellite communication channels and real-time control and it cannot be used for its intended purpose in principle - that's two. Reading the tales of the author of the article, who is not in the know, is a useless exercise. On VO another "uryakalka" ...
      1. +6
        20 September 2024 11: 12
        This UAV doesn't have an engine - that's one!


        What does he fly on then? I think it's an APD-115T.

        This UAV does not have satellite communication channels and real-time control and it cannot be used for its intended purpose in principle - that's two.


        A Chinese specialized publication wrote a detailed article about the Inokhodets UAV six months ago, and it clearly talks about a satellite communication channel and real-time control. Now, in the same Kursk region, the Inokhodets is quite successfully working against Ukrainian Armed Forces tanks, which is confirmed by a video of its work from the Severny Veter Telegram channel. So it is unclear what you are trying to refute. Everything has long been proven in practice.
        1. -2
          20 September 2024 11: 26
          It doesn't fly. The APD-115 engine is not produced due to technical problems. Did you fall from the Moon?
          To use UAVs over the contact line, a satellite channel for transmitting information in real time is not needed. This is clear to everyone.
          Until 2022, it was written that the combat radius of the Orlan-10 UAV was 120 km.
          And it could transmit a video image from a distance of only 15 km, and even then only with the presence of a special, rarely used module on the ground control station. Do you understand the difference? It is one thing to transmit control signals and track the flight parameters and the state of the UAV, and another to transmit a high-quality image in real time, to recognize targets and determine coordinates. The leaders "pulled noodles on your ears" and still continue to do so...
          1. +2
            20 September 2024 11: 35
            Because of what technical problems? Please specify.

            Chinese analysts note that Russian specialists have successfully copied the Austrian Rotax 914 engine and set up production of a power unit designated APD-115T (120 hp), which is equipped with an AV-115 propeller.


            https://invoen.ru/obraszi-vooruzhenija-i-voennoj-tehniki/bpla-orion-ozenka-kitajskih-spezialistov-po-opitu-svo/
            1. -4
              20 September 2024 11: 41
              Dream on and read custom articles. The Chinese produce Rotax-914 under license and do not sell to us because of the ban. If you are not in the know and do not have information that is known to everyone, do not cite cheap sources ... No one argues with you. You are informed and draw conclusions ... If you do not know how to work in the information field - your problem. Is it difficult to fill the search engine?
              1. +1
                21 September 2024 17: 07
                Vytautas
                You are a promising boor with the conceit of Herostratus, in the topic of fire safety. Just like some Landau
                1. 0
                  21 September 2024 17: 57
                  I'm not an amateur, but a military professional! And I'm not used to beating around the bush...
                  1. 0
                    21 September 2024 19: 20
                    Vitovt:
                    For the fact of the answer and for honesty - plus. Margelov's impudence in you as a commander - this is a compliment. And your criticism of the army is understandable and fair. But the form is repulsive, and according to the marshal from science: "Forms should be such that they want to be taken into account" - academician Zeldovich.
          2. +1
            20 September 2024 13: 41
            It doesn't fly. The APD-115 engine is not produced due to technical problems. Did you fall from the Moon?

            There was some news from Rostec recently about investments in the development of domestic engines for UAVs, maybe something will work out. They were talking about a piston engine, a small turbojet, and two models of an electric engine.
            The combat range of the Orlan-10 UAV is 120 km.
            And it could transmit a video image from a distance of only 15 km, and even then only with the presence of a special, rarely used module at the ground control station.

            However, now Iskanders are guided to strike deep by something. Not by Orlans or Orions, of course. By something else. Supercams, perhaps.
            1. -1
              20 September 2024 14: 24
              Iskanders need target coordinates. They do not home in. They shoot precisely at coordinates. SuperKam can give coordinates, but it flies for a long time and the flight duration is only 4 hours. Figuratively: an hour there, an hour back and 2 on duty, but its radius is enough to detect Heimers ... Now imagine how many of these UAVs are needed to control one direction 24/7 in real time? Impossible. So it turns out that we wage a modern war episodically ... We need Tu-214R aircraft, but they do not work and there are only 2 of them, we need large UAVs with satellite channels and also low-visibility ... Greetings to Uncle Gerasim ... His RUK consists of an Il-28 reconnaissance aircraft and a Su-24M strike aircraft with SVP-24. It would be funny, but very sad. What kind of madhouse do you need to be treated in to come up with something like this?
              1. +1
                21 September 2024 17: 11
                His RUK consists of an Il-28 reconnaissance aircraft and a Su-24M strike aircraft with an SVP-24.
                What kind of madhouse did you get this about the Il-28 from?
                1. 0
                  21 September 2024 17: 52
                  Well, Il-114, what's the difference? Read, page 32:
                  2. The possibility of centralized control by the commander of the inter-species RUK model has been implemented —
                  VKR Il-114LL and Su-24M with SVP-24

                  https://vm.ric.mil.ru/upload/site178/oWEfwothpu.pdf
                  1. +1
                    21 September 2024 18: 12
                    Well, Il-114, what's the difference?
                    The difference is 50 years, that's all. You have to write carefully.
          3. 0
            21 September 2024 15: 31
            Every day I see them flying... Maybe they are sparrows carrying them.
        2. +1
          20 September 2024 13: 36
          Now in the same Kursk region, Inokhodets is working quite successfully on Ukrainian Armed Forces tanks,

          In Kursk region, especially in Gubin, it is not a fact that a satellite channel is needed at all. The order is not so saturated with SIGINT/REB means. That is why it works there.

          What's interesting is that some time ago we discussed the need or lack of need for the SU-25 with unguided rockets and looked at the experience of their use there. We said that they may have become a niche tool. And now we see the use of drones in the same niche, which have long been seen as a replacement for attack aircraft. It turns out that we were not so wrong.
          1. -2
            20 September 2024 14: 38
            So in Kursk Oblast there should have been towers with reconnaissance equipment and airships hanging on a leash for a long time. I am saying that the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces has no idea about modern warfare... They know how to wear a uniform and hang medals...
      2. +3
        20 September 2024 13: 18
        This UAV doesn't have an engine - that's one!
        what do you mean no? You might as well say that we don't have any drones at all, since they probably all consist of at least half bourgeois components. The domestic lancets only had a body and a warhead, I don't know how it is now
        This UAV does not have satellite communication channels and real-time control and it cannot be used for its intended purpose in principle - that's two.
        And what is its purpose? To fly deep into the enemy's rear?
        The problems with the drone are completely different - it's a flying thermal imager for half a billion rubles, for the same money you can buy about 30 halls or supercams, which will fly three times less, but there will be 30 times more of them. Or even all 50
      3. -3
        20 September 2024 18: 16
        By the way, this is also the case, there is no satellite group of the Russian Federation, giving broadcast in real time! This is the merit of Rogozhin, who, having come to Roscosmos in 18, did not start making the first return stage, similar to SPACE X, but started to arrange a show of Ban MASK, the first return stage was never made, time was lost with this moron, therefore we cannot launch 400 Internet communication satellites per week. Therefore, the flight of the IONOHODTS is a 200 km radius, well, with a retriker maybe more, not about
        how!
  3. +2
    20 September 2024 08: 01
    At the same time, the "Inohodets" is subject to threats from longer-range anti-aircraft missile systems and fighter aircraft. A drone of this kind is quite easy to detect and disable with modern means. The Ukrainians have already demonstrated a downed Orion with two suspended 50-kg guided bombs...
  4. 0
    20 September 2024 08: 07
    If "Thanks to the use of repeaters, the station can control UAVs at a distance of hundreds or even thousands of kilometers." then why are the operators sitting in some kind of kung? In the same Dubna, they can't be equipped with comfortable places, and only technicians can ride around with hardware
  5. +4
    20 September 2024 08: 16
    The drone is equipped with a piston engine with a capacity of 115 hp.

    At one time, it was widely written that this drone was equipped with an Austrian engine, with the prospect of switching to a domestic one. I wonder how things are now with the domestic engine?
    1. +2
      20 September 2024 11: 16
      Quote: Luminman
      I wonder how things are now with the domestic engine?

      Well, the "domestic" engine is a "reengineering" of the Austrian one... In any case, we are talking about the engine that was originally created to replace the "foreign" one!
      1. +4
        20 September 2024 15: 53
        Quote: Nikolaevich I
        Well, the "domestic" engine is a "reengineering" of the Austrian one.

        And this is absolutely unimportant. What matters is whether it is manufactured at our factories or not. And whether our components are used there...
        1. -2
          20 September 2024 19: 12
          Quote: Luminman
          And this is absolutely not important. What is important is whether it is produced at our factories or not.

          But here you are lying! Unfortunately, "reengineering" in Russia can be of rather "poor" quality and be characterized by 2 features! 1. Either some of the components remain imported... 2. or the components of our own production are significantly inferior in quality to the imported ones! Do I need to explain what this "is fraught with"? In the first case, due to the failure to deliver one unit, the production of the entire engine will stop... in the second case, the reliability of the engine and the period of inter-scheduled maintenance are reduced! Lose an expensive UAV due to an engine breakdown? belay
          1. +3
            21 September 2024 06: 42
            Quote: Nikolaevich I
            Unfortunately, "reengineering" in Russia may turn out to be of rather "poor" quality
            This is where you're lying! I suspect you're not familiar with the concept of quality control, and even at a military enterprise...
            1. 0
              21 September 2024 10: 07
              Quote: Luminman
              This is where you're lying!

              Well, for us, liars! drinks
            2. 0
              21 September 2024 11: 38
              Luminman (luminman), respected, the Internet remembers everything. Information about criminal cases against the glorious workers of the Order of the Red Star of the 1059th military representative office of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation at SEVMASH can be found. They are sold and bought no more difficult than deputies and officials of Severodvinsk, Arkhangelsk Region and the entire Russian Federation.
  6. 0
    20 September 2024 10: 33
    Where money was not stolen, there is a real example of a UAV, right?
    1. +1
      20 September 2024 11: 50
      No, it doesn't work that way. First of all, you need a team of competent, qualified development engineers and a smart project manager.
      1. +1
        20 September 2024 12: 06
        Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
        No, it doesn't work that way. First of all, you need a team of competent, qualified development engineers and a smart project manager.

        Do we live in capitalism or what? If the money is not stolen, competent specialists are hired freely. You can't hire them for free
        1. +2
          20 September 2024 12: 11
          Competent specialists are not lying on the road, they are cultivated over decades. They are not salesmen or truck drivers, where supply and demand are determined proportionally to the proposed earnings.
          A designer developer is a rare commodity. It is not for nothing that the US is particularly focused on destroying design bureaus and luring away specialists.
  7. 0
    20 September 2024 11: 46
    Yes, now the "Inohodets" is in demand, as is our other reconnaissance and strike UAV "Forpost-RU", but this happened due to the fact that our air strikes managed to greatly thin out, and in some places even knock out, the enemy's air defense systems in this direction, and most importantly, to carry out constant patrols and cover the UAV's actions with links of Su-35S fighters with missiles capable of quickly and efficiently annihilating any such system detected.
    1. -1
      20 September 2024 12: 03
      How can something that doesn't exist be in demand? "Forpost" was manufactured from Jewish machine kits at a rate of 1 UAV per month. The import-substituted "Forpost-R" UAV is a fairy tale from the Internet. Once again, for operational-level UAVs, closed modern satellite channels for transmitting high-performance information in real time are needed. We still don't have this...
      cover for UAV operations by links of Su-35S fighters with missiles,

      We have only 100 Su-35S aircraft for the entire vast country from Kaliningrad to Kamchatka. What links?
      1. -1
        20 September 2024 12: 09
        Quote: Vitov
        Import-substituted UAV "Forpost-R" is a fairy tale from the Internet.

        This "fairy tale" is now being produced in three shifts....
        Quote: Vitov
        We still don't have this...

        Are you sure? I wouldn't be so sure, knowing that a small group of the "Messenger" system has now been created in space.
        1. -1
          20 September 2024 12: 12
          This "fairy tale" is now being produced in three shifts...

          Now is when? Since when? When did the bird peck at my ass? What engine is on the Forpost-R UAV, what digital engine and propeller pitch control system? Whose production (country)?
          1. +1
            20 September 2024 12: 17
            Quote: Vitov
            When is now?

            This is exactly now and these days. About which local television proudly films reports.
            Quote: Vitov
            Since when? When did the bird peck at my ass? What engine is on the Forpost-R UAV, what digital engine and propeller pitch control system? Whose production (country)?

            Sorry, but this is already classified information. If they shoot one down over enemy-occupied territory in Ukraine or Syria, or somewhere else... They'll gut it there, then much will become known, but for now... Good luck and success to the crews of these UAVs in their work
            1. -1
              20 September 2024 12: 36
              It was the third year of SVO... Don't make me laugh! Read carefully so as not to make up fairy tales and believe in them, and enjoy your secret information.
              https://www.1tv.ru/news/2024-09-14/486206-na_urale_organizovano_proizvodstvo_polnogo_tsikla_mnogofunktsionalnyh_bespilotnikov_forpost
              https://anav.ru/news/tpost/ctgujbs451-rossiiskie-bas-problemi-i-perspektivi-ra
              1. +1
                20 September 2024 12: 54
                Quote: Vitov
                Don't make me laugh! Read carefully so as not to make up stories and believe in them, and enjoy your secret information.

                You are not making me laugh. And did you learn many answers to your questions from the materials you offered? Let me remind you of them:
                Quote: Vitov
                What engine is on the Forpost-R UAV, what is the digital engine and propeller pitch control system? Whose production (country)?

                But their production is still going on, as one comrade joked: "We don't do anything, but in three shifts."
                1. +1
                  20 September 2024 12: 59
                  Learn to read, Far Easterner! Have you forgotten again that I am Okko077?

                  - For example, the Orion drone produced by Kronstadt Group. Initially, it used the Austrian Rotax 914, but then the Rybinsk engineering center Itlan joined this project, which has already manufactured a whole series of engines, so far 17 products are officially known. Another well-known project is the Forpost-R heavy drone developed by UZGA. In 2020, this company developed the APD-85 and APD-80 piston engines, which combined a cylinder-piston group from Jabiru and a domestic control system. Now it is planned that the APD-85 will be replaced by the new APD-80 engine, which is being developed by UZGA from domestic components.

                  I started telling you all about this in 2015...
                  1. +1
                    20 September 2024 13: 05
                    Quote: Vitov
                    Learn to read, Far Easterner!

                    Are we so close to each other that we are already on first-name terms? And I am no longer a Far Easterner, but a Uralian myself
                    Quote: Vitov
                    Have you forgotten again that I am Okko077?

                    So what? You can find out.
                    Quote: Vitov
                    which combined the cylinder-piston group from Jabiru

                    Have you at least inquired where the Jabiru company is located and thought about whether it can now openly supply spare parts for this drone to us? Good luck.
                    1. -1
                      20 September 2024 13: 19
                      All claims to the author of the article. Yesterday they started working in 3 shifts, and only the SVO is in its 3rd year. Just look at the production level? Isn't it just funny? And did they quietly move out of "Orion"?
                      1. -1
                        20 September 2024 14: 14
                        Quote: Vitov
                        All claims to the author of the article.

                        No
                        Quote: Vitov
                        Yesterday we started working in 3 shifts, and only the SVO is in its 3rd year.

                        Wrong again...
                        Quote: Vitov
                        Just look at the level of production?

                        How to say, but there are thousands of them and they are not needed and they produce exactly as many as our Ministry of Defense and foreign buyers order. UZGA and other works are more than enough
                        Quote: Vitov
                        And did you quietly leave Orion?

                        Sorry, but there is very little information about him.
                      2. 0
                        20 September 2024 14: 54
                        Today is Friday and I don't want to upset you about "Orion". I was at "Army-24" in the "Kronstadt" pavilion. I felt sorry for them when I asked questions, and they couldn't run away, and didn't know how to answer...
                      3. +2
                        20 September 2024 15: 03
                        Quote: Vitov
                        I felt sorry for them when I asked questions, but they couldn’t run away, and didn’t know how to answer...

                        You know, I'm not surprised. Often at such exhibitions the representatives are not those who work directly, but managers, and they are also intimidated to the point of impossibility by the authorities, about the prohibition of disclosure of information, for this you can now get a real term, and the authorities often carry out provocations... So that they will tell a stranger little, only what is written in the brochures
                      4. +1
                        20 September 2024 16: 11
                        What did you ask them there? Very curious.
        2. +1
          21 September 2024 23: 04
          knowing that a small group of the Gonets system has now been created in space


          There was an article about her right there.
          https://topwar.ru/247888-geoskan-i-gonec-upravlenie-bespilotnikom-cherez-sputnik.html

          Let us repeat once again that it is impossible to fully conduct a dialogue through the Messenger satellites, as if on a cell phone. First of all, due to the specifics of satellites. From the very beginning they did not focus on a broadband two-way communication channel. “Messengers” in various versions were developed to track remote transport (for example, on the Northern Sea Route), and communicate with control equipment at infrastructure facilities outside of cellular communications. Interestingly, the Gonets satellite system, according to the developer, allows you to organize election campaigns in remote regions. Voting protocols certified by electronic signatures and other paraphernalia can be transmitted via satellites. And no helicopters or snowmobiles to deliver ballots. For all the reasons stated, Messenger’s arsenal only includes the exchange of text and voice messages, as well as small files. But this is a unit almost completely protected from enemy electronic warfare, which is why it is valuable in modern conflicts.
          With the Geoscan satellite control, everything seems to be clear. But what about the video signal transmission logic? The Messenger's data transmission channels are not designed for video signals of any resolution, even the most primitive. Only files in batches of several hundred kilobytes in size. The message from Roscosmos regarding the tests in Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk includes the following:

          “218 information messages with drone telemetry were received on the FTP server of the “Messenger” system and three information messages with in-flight control commands were transmitted via feedback.”

          That is, there was no video signal from the drone. Control was carried out on the basis of coordinates transmitted from Geoscan and superimposed on the map of the area. Which, however, does not negate its reconnaissance function - all the necessary information can be obtained after the Geoscan parachute landing and deciphering the video/photo recording from the on-board camera. This seriously reduces the efficiency and availability of data from the front. But now the military is ready to forgive a lot for an intelligence officer who is insensitive to Ukrainian electronic warfare. However, there is another option for video communication - through the Sfera satellite system. But that's a slightly different story.




          At the moment, it is not possible to transmit video through the Gonets system, only text messages or telemetry (essentially also text)
  8. -1
    21 September 2024 13: 05
    And how many cries were made against Russia, at the beginning of the SVO, saying that it was lagging behind in UAVs. Meanwhile, the engineers were working. And where is Bayraktar now?
  9. 0
    22 September 2024 13: 28
    Orion - 404...one way or another they will lose their air defense missile systems or greatly reduce their number.