Strategic risks of a ceasefire in Ukraine

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Strategic risks of a ceasefire in Ukraine


Unpeaceful plans


Understanding perfectly well that direct contacts between Russia and the Kyiv regime regarding peace talks are impossible, the West is happy to be in the shoes of a peacemaker. Probably, some leaders of countries are really trying to stop the events in Ukraine out of humanitarian motives, but the majority are engaged exclusively in earning political capital.



Unfortunately, the special operation turned out to be a convenient way for the Western elite to become famous. Sometimes you don’t even have to go to Kyiv – just hint at some plan for a settlement. Scholz, Orban, Erdogan – the list of those trying to “help” Russia and Ukraine end the conflict here and now will only grow.

If we think in the categories of Western propagandists, then a peaceful end to events is to the advantage of both sides. But rationalist optics clearly speak of the negative strategic consequences for Russia that will inevitably result from signing any peace treaty not on the Kremlin's terms.




In any peace negotiations between warring parties, it is necessary to proceed from the disposition on the battlefield. In a strategic sense, of course.

Let us ask ourselves the question: in what cases are armies ready for a peaceful resolution of contradictions?

Either when both sides suffer excessive losses, or such losses to which society has not developed immunity. We are talking about the so-called sensitivity to losses among the people. In Ukraine, this threshold is very high, and so far the losses of the Ukrainian Armed Forces have not even approached it. It is possible that the public in Ukraine is becoming increasingly indifferent to both the losses and the political processes within the country. And this unties the hands of the Kyiv regime, which feels quite at ease. Zelensky has recently begun to appear less often near the line of combat contact, but nothing more.

Another reason for peace negotiations could be a military catastrophe of one of the parties. This is also called capitulation.

Hitler's Germany fell only after the capture of Berlin, and the Russian Army is now far from the walls of the Ukrainian president's office. Therefore, when someone in the West and Ukraine tries to advance history with a peace treaty on the terms of Zelensky and Biden, you can safely hit him in the face with a brick. The Ukrainian Armed Forces are far from a disaster, and at least 15 percent of the enemy's military personnel are ready to rebel in the event of peace with Russia. Even the most hardened pacifists in the enemy camp cannot ignore this.

The Banderites' invasion of the Kursk region speaks very eloquently of the real desire to end the conflict peacefully. Even the potential possibility of direct negotiations between Russia and Ukraine has become impossible. Nevertheless, it is the Kiev regime that will receive the greatest benefit even from a temporary truce on the fronts.

Risks of Russia


The strategic position of the two countries speaks against any peace negotiations.

Ukraine, no matter how you look at it, acts as a weak or “subordinate” country. Minimum independence in decisions (an example with the ban on long-range strikes rockets very clear), the actual absence of some types and classes of weapons (fleet, shock and army aviation), dependence on foreign aid of all kinds and, finally, the vulnerability of the entire territory. Missiles and kamikaze UAVs are capable of flying to the farthest borders of Ukraine. Military-industrial complex facilities are under constant threat.

The Kiev regime is either technically unable to respond to Russia in kind, or is simply not allowed to. Of course, with such input, a truce is beneficial to Zelensky - his country will instantly find itself strategically on the same level as Russia. At the same time, Bandera's rhetoric inside Ukraine will not disappear, which means that the enemy will engage in even more rabid zombification of the population.

But this is not the only problem with the peace plan.

As soon as Ukraine realizes that the conflict has been frozen, forced migrants, primarily males, will flock to the country. Europe will do everything to push the refugees back. And this means several tens, if not hundreds of thousands of new recruits for the Ukrainian Armed Forces. The peace initiative will become a lure for Ukrainians in Europe and will eventually strengthen the enemy's offensive potential.

Will Zelensky take advantage of this?

The question is as rhetorical as the answer to it is predictable. Russia's gigantic risks are connected with the long line of contact.

How can the front line be technically frozen right now?

The level of tension and mutual hatred is so high that the troops can only be protected by a wide demilitarized zone. Preferably one that cannot be penetrated by heavy ammunition and MLRS rockets. And that's tens of kilometers.

Who will ensure the neutrality of this strip?

That's right, Western peacekeepers who will play entirely for the Ukrainian Armed Forces team. In the event of a skirmish, they will become full-fledged combatants, and their mass deaths could provoke direct intervention in the conflict by NATO troops. A freeze or temporary truce in this case will quickly flow into a world war. This is not at all the "bad peace" that many dream of.

It is impossible to stop the special operation right now without withdrawing troops to a safe distance, and all Western and domestic sources speculating on peace initiatives should understand this.

Russia's agreement to direct peace talks and freezing the conflict will seriously affect the country's international reputation. Many are now sarcastically talking about red lines, but in the case of peace on the West's terms, everyone will spit in your face. And indeed, making peace with a state on the front line that does not even have its own navy looks reckless. It looks more like capitulation.


But peace with Ukraine is still possible.

Only with serious territorial concessions from the enemy. President Putin spoke about this on June 14 of this year - the Kherson, Zaporizhzhya, Donetsk and Lugansk regions must become part of Russia de jure and de facto. That is, the Ukrainian Armed Forces must leave the temporarily occupied territories.

It should be noted that the conditions look quite soft. First of all, due to the Odessa and Nikolaev regions, which provide Ukraine with access to the Black Sea.

The question is different: is the Kyiv regime ready to make such concessions?

Taking into account all of the above, absolutely not. The mobilization resource has not yet been exhausted, and the pace of the Russian Army's offensive allows reserves and "fire brigades" to prevent a critical breakthrough of the front.

But it is even worse for the army and the military-political leadership of Ukraine – peace will come in any case. Only with even greater political and territorial losses, reaching the point of loss of state identity.
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  1. +14
    20 September 2024 06: 50
    "The Kherson, Zaporizhia, Donetsk and Luhansk regions must become part of Russia de jure and de facto."
    And also the Kursk region.
    1. Qas
      -1
      22 September 2024 05: 58
      Why did you forget Odessa and Nikolaev?
  2. -14
    20 September 2024 06: 52
    My suggestion is a Korean script.
    1. +15
      20 September 2024 07: 04
      This is not a "Korean scenario", but the creation of a Nazi reserve on the border of the Russian Federation.
      1. -6
        20 September 2024 07: 07
        On the border of the Russian Federation, not the Russian Federation laughing (see map)
        1. AAK
          +1
          20 September 2024 11: 56
          I think it's a bit early for Yuri to start beating the kettledrums, the "eastern" border of the RDFR proposed by Konstantin (along the Zhitomir-Vinnytsia line in the west) has not yet been formed, and until the "western" one is formed - as they say in one joke: "three days in the field, two days in the forest and on Monday to the right..." and that's if the Great One doesn't go for the expected "fixed deal" under the influence of "partners" and our "rich Pinocchios"
          1. -1
            20 September 2024 14: 09
            When Stalin and Mao agreed on the creation of the DPRK, they also hardly thought that this half-Korea would remain forever. It was probably conceived as a temporary bridgehead for the liberation of the entire Korean Peninsula from imperialism. But even in this form, this brilliant idea still works! The DPRK holds back South Korea, scares Japan, and does not allow the Americans to approach us and China from that side. The DPRK works! So it is here. Even if the RFDR does not fully fulfill its task, does not destroy the remnants of "Ukraine" in a few historical cycles, it will first perform the functions of a buffer state, and then could become part of Russia, but immediately, in its entirety, and not in parts.
            And at this stage, the main thing is to convey to the so-called "civilized world" that we recognize "Ukraine" (in its Western understanding) within these borders (UG). And the RFDR is Russian land, we will not give it up under any circumstances. Here are the conditions for future negotiations. Transfer Zelensky with all his gang to Lviv, there will be the capital of the UG. And then everything will depend on your behavior. If the UG fulfills our conditions and behaves quietly, it will live. If not, the RFDR army will carry out monthly raids into the depths of the UG, bomb cities, and destroy everything that poses a danger.
            1. +5
              20 September 2024 19: 00
              Quote from gribanow.c
              And at this stage the main thing is to convey to the so-called “civilized world” that we recognize “Ukraine” (in its Western understanding) within these borders (UG).

              And NATO and their missile bases - within what boundaries do we perceive them? laughing

              The truce and everything else is simply our loss. It is interesting to see how it is covered up with various optimistic arguments.
              What we have as a result
              Sweden - in NATO
              Finland - in NATO
              The majority of Ukraine - no matter what you call it, no matter what you sign - will be armed and de facto in NATO
              Technological embargo - why lift it completely? They will give the honorable right to be a gas station and raw materials appendage.

              Achievement...
            2. -1
              23 September 2024 22: 31
              And then your RFDR will grow up with its own elite, which will come up with a new ideology of independence and will want to join the European Union and NATO.
              1. +2
                24 September 2024 08: 15
                There should be no elite as a class at all, at least not in our country. The common people should rule.
    2. +1
      21 September 2024 13: 12
      My suggestion is a Korean script.

      My suggestion is to gather radical patriots from both sides and put them in pairs in cells, then teach them something like adequate history with serious exams. Then, to settle them in remote places for several years. Maybe then the fog will clear out of their heads.
      And what can I say about those who think that Ukraine and Ukrainians do not exist at all? I will say nothing.
    3. +1
      26 September 2024 13: 21
      Not bad! But, there is a point: "The law of cause and effect does not allow you to eat the pie before you have it. The law of cause and effect teaches: to eat the pie, you must have it."
      It is beyond our power to control the entire conscious territory of the Russian Federation. The pie is too big.
  3. +4
    20 September 2024 06: 54
    Hmm, the article states the facts. I agree with the author, but I didn't learn anything new from the text.
  4. +17
    20 September 2024 06: 54
    The war will end only when capital losses, world capital, begin. While everyone around is only making money, it's a wonderful time for embezzlement and all sorts of orders that can make money, well, with the exception of ordinary people, for them only grief, death, destruction of each other, the main thing is more slogans, ideas, and fools will mow themselves down, as they say, you work, Fool, we'll give you a badge. I don't believe in military victory, the winning side will be quickly besieged and stopped. But as soon as capital begins to suffer, the war will end in an instant, and as everyone is happy, there will be peace, and chewing gum, and various slogans for the people, and for someone bonuses and dividends.
    1. +3
      20 September 2024 07: 25
      Quote from turembo
      I don't really believe in military victory.

      What kind of military victory (and non-military too) can there be if, as I understand it, no one is going to change the Bandera ruling regime?
      1. +11
        20 September 2024 10: 19
        Quote: Stas157
        What military victory (and non-military too) can there be?

        In order to change the Bandera regime (demilitarization and denazification), it is necessary to change the power of the oligarchs, and, first of all, in Russia itself. "The process began" with Gorbachev, then Yeltsin, his successor. How much longer can Russia withstand if the military flywheel of the entire economy of the EU, the USA, the same Japan and other hostile countries, allies of the States, is being spun against us, and we have all the holidays and fireworks, where "the people eat it up". At the same time, the "Anaconda Loop" according to Brzezinski, as well as his mockery about the "elites" have not gone anywhere.
        1. +6
          20 September 2024 10: 38
          At the same time, Brzezinski’s “Anaconda Loop” and his mockery of the “elites” have not gone away.
          As with Ukraine and Russia, if they are together it will be impossible to overcome, they will go their separate ways... "Lost"... can be written with a capital letter.. Now, Ukraine and Russia are two banks of the same river.. And the further, the wider the river, and the banks are moving further and further away from each other and all the bridges are burned and all means of crossing, from ferries to small boats, are ruined.. The nonsense of the 90s, we don't need anyone, continues.. How can we not be left without a broken trough and an ancient dugout, we no longer catch fish, we do not spin yarn, and the goldfish has already fulfilled all three wishes..
          1. +5
            20 September 2024 10: 55
            Quote: kor1vet1974
            and the goldfish has already fulfilled all three wishes.
            The whole question of who the fish fulfilled these wishes for seems not to be for us. The fact that we don't catch fish and don't spin yarn, so the list is long.
            Our fat cats are only interested in quick money, here and now, pumping raw materials out of Russia and selling off Soviet developments. They will survive without Russia, and they are in no hurry to go to heaven or hell.
            1. +2
              20 September 2024 11: 15
              Moreover, they are in no hurry to go to heaven or hell.
              Why are they in a hurry? Paradise is for themselves and their own, hell is for the rest. Why do they need Hell? Nooooo, they don’t need Hell.
        2. +11
          20 September 2024 10: 57
          Quote: Per se.
          To change the Bandera regime (demilitarization and denazification)

          The window of opportunity to change the Bandera regime was:
          1) In 14. There was no need to change anything there! Just help Yanukovych to disperse the crowd on the Maidan, like in Kazakhstan. Or at least not interfere with Yanukovych himself dispersing the Maidan (we were deceived!).
          2) In the same year 14, during the period of anarchy (2 months). Intervene and install Yanukovych again on the side.
          3) Later in the same year 14, the defeat near Ilovaisk. Develop the offensive. Why then did they first enter and then leave Mariupol?
          4) In 15, there was already the Debaltseve cauldron.
          5) In 22, at the very beginning, there was a chance to defeat Ukraine with lightning speed. If they had prepared. Instead, they gave Ukraine time to mobilize and establish logistics for the flow of Western weapons.

          There were opportunities. But was there a desire?
          It is much more difficult now. How to do it now with the forces and possibilities that we have is a very difficult question. But I think it is not worth it!
          1. +2
            21 September 2024 15: 59
            There was no need to help him disperse the crowd. Just at that moment deal with the Nazis in the east, southeast and center of Ukraine. Bring in troops. These devils would gnaw at each other, and we would solve our problems. Like in September 1939...
          2. +2
            22 September 2024 00: 40
            You are absolutely right. But - it is too late to bite your elbows in hindsight, you can't turn back time. Today we have what we have. We have an enemy invasion on our territory. We have the Belgorod region, which has turned into a second Donbass. We have Donbass, where people have been living under constant shelling in inhuman conditions for eleven years. We have the third year of a protracted bloody war. We have Finland and Sweden in NATO. We have ever-increasing NATO supplies to the enemy. But with all this, we have no way back. Defeat is the collapse and disintegration of the country.
        3. +1
          22 September 2024 10: 31
          What kind of radio did Yeltsin have? Spidola? Or Leningrad?
          1. 0
            24 September 2024 07: 13
            Quote from Sumotori_380
            What kind of radio did Yeltsin have? Spidola? Or Leningrad?

            Peter on German "logic".
  5. +6
    20 September 2024 07: 02
    Odessa and Nikolaev should under no circumstances be under the control of Banderites...this is a direct threat to our Black Sea Fleet and Transnistria.
    1. +1
      22 September 2024 10: 34
      So what do you have to offer?
  6. +4
    20 September 2024 07: 12
    The main threat is the presence in the Russian Federation of the so-called "party of peace", in other words, traitors and turncoats. They may well make it possible for Ukraine to remain a subject of international law while maintaining the current Bandera regime.

    Talking about peace when Ukraine includes Novorossiya, Malorossiya and Slobozhanshchina means real betrayal, because it is these macro-regions with a predominantly Russian population that form the economic basis and mobilization reserve of the Kyiv junta.

    If this happens, the disintegration of Yugoslavia will be child's play.
    1. +4
      20 September 2024 07: 44
      It seems that our “top brass” has split into two parts - one works for the West without a twinge of conscience, the other (seemingly for Russia, at least in words) does not know what and how to do with Ukraine.
      1. +2
        20 September 2024 07: 45
        I absolutely agree with you.
    2. +6
      20 September 2024 08: 53
      The main threat is the presence in the Russian Federation of the so-called "party of peace", in other words, traitors and turncoats. They may well make it possible for Ukraine to remain a subject of international law while maintaining the current Bandera regime.
      It has always been there. Even during the Minsk agreements, the Russian leadership, oh yes, there was another president then, not a new one, said that Russia was in favor of the territorial integrity of Ukraine, and not only then, but also in the 90s...
    3. +5
      20 September 2024 13: 27
      What does the peace party have to do with it? There was no need to steal budgets. Squeeze specialists abroad and drive the population to extinction. Yes, if the money that was ALREADY spent on the SVO had been stupidly given away, then half of Ukraine would have come running to us.
  7. +7
    20 September 2024 07: 19
    Another reason for peace negotiations could be a military catastrophe of one of the parties. This is also called capitulation.

    Capitulation is surrender. Not peace negotiations.
    There is no need to distort meanings for the sake of political expediency.
    1. +8
      20 September 2024 10: 31
      Negotiating peace, regardless of the conditions, with the existing Bandera regime is already a capitulation and betrayal of the interests of the country and those who are fighting this scum today.
  8. +3
    20 September 2024 08: 03
    The longer the SVO continues, the greater the losses Russia suffers and the less chance Russia has of receiving any benefits from the post-war arrangement. Strategically, Russia does not need new territories - except for Crimea and the land corridor to it.

    If by some miracle (and there is no other way) Russia gets the entire Kherson, Zaporozhye regions, the entire DPR and LPR - then what will the people of Russia get from this?

    It is time to end the SVO, since the burden on the economy is growing stronger, and if we talk about the risks of losing statehood, then Russia may also have such risks and they are all higher.
    1. 0
      20 September 2024 08: 14
      And those who are for all this have proven that they are not doing this for the sake of Russia and its people. All this is only a consequence of their AGAINST mentality, and it does not matter to them who they are AGAINST - against Soviet communists and their supporters, against each other, against the enemies of the USSR in other countries.
    2. +2
      20 September 2024 10: 07
      The problem is that even if “by some miracle” Russia only gets the Kherson and Zaporizhzhya regions, the DPR, and the LPR, the threats to Russia will not go away.
      Firstly, the most important threats to Russia are "internal" threats. Secondly, without all the eastern, southern and northern regions of Ukraine as part of Russia - "internal" threats will only increase...
    3. +1
      20 September 2024 10: 42
      It's time to end the SVO
      If you finish, you will be left without Crimea and the land corridor to it and without everything else.. And about the miracle.. For it, you need to go to the wizard Lukomor, to the thirtieth kingdom, maybe he will give you a magic chalk with a board on which to write wishes.
      1. +2
        20 September 2024 10: 51
        magic chalk with board How well observed! What a cool reference!
      2. +3
        20 September 2024 11: 14
        But only a "miracle" could save Russia from the "Istanbul deal" with unpredictable consequences for Russia, even if it was in the person of Borka-shaggy or whoever. And this despite the fact that someone was very stubborn.
        1. +3
          20 September 2024 11: 17
          But only a "miracle" could save Russia
          But Ivanushka didn’t get to the wizard Lukomor; on his way to him, the horse thief Vasily and his friend took his horse and cart... They deceived him.
          1. +4
            20 September 2024 11: 23
            Agree, it is hard for a “miracle” to help Russia when Russia itself is very “resisting” the help... hi
            1. +2
              20 September 2024 11: 26
              Yes...the horse thieves stole the cart with the horse...and the guiding mouse is lost, how can we get to the miracle without them? hi
              1. +3
                20 September 2024 11: 30
                So the "miracle" itself comes to our aid, and we kick it away. And it still helps us...
                The main thing here is that the "miracle" doesn't get tired of all this...
      3. +3
        20 September 2024 11: 30
        Quote: kor1vet1974
        It's time to end the SVO
        If you finish, you will be left without Crimea and the land corridor to it and without everything else.. And about the miracle.. For it, you need to go to the wizard Lukomor, to the thirtieth kingdom, maybe he will give you a magic chalk with a board on which to write wishes.


        It is not a fact that we will be left without Crimea, but the continuation of the SVO may lead to us being left without Russia.

        Hoping that we will occupy the territory of 4 regions without miracles and hold it - then why haven't we done it yet? Or are we waiting for a miracle?
        1. +3
          20 September 2024 11: 37
          It is not a fact that we will be left without Crimea, but the continuation of the SVO may lead to us being left without Russia.
          To stay with Crimea... "if we want to get to the helmet, from today on all squabbles must cease. Do not play, do not drink, do not steal without me. Stop slang and nicknames, address by names" (c) But I have already written about miracles, read carefully where you can get them...
          1. +1
            20 September 2024 12: 57
            "To stay with Crimea."

            It can be with Crimea, or with the nose.
        2. -4
          20 September 2024 12: 21
          The continuation of the SVO does not pose any threat to Russia for a couple of years
          but stopping without a clear victory is a collapse
          1. +16
            20 September 2024 13: 42
            Seriously? Let's compare the scale and geography of battles in 2022 and 2024? Back then, everyone was seething after a couple of drones fell on the Kremlin and the burnt-out oil depot in Belgorod.
            What do we have today? Missile and UAV attacks hundreds of kilometers from the LBS are already commonplace. Belgorod is being terrorized more than Donetsk during the ATO. Almost 200 thousand are being evacuated from the core part of the Russian Federation. The enemy is shelling the nuclear power plant. No one even pays attention to such a trifle as another strike on the Crimean bridge. And do you remember what kind of seething masses there was in 2022? The remnants of the Black Sea Fleet are looking for a fifth corner and do not even dream of any kind of counteraction to supplies or a blockade of Odessa. Oil refineries and oil depots burn almost weekly. As well as military airfields and warehouses.
            Our supreme leader still can't get around to starting seriously. He keeps drawing lines and expressing concern. And the enemy is constantly increasing supplies and the force of his attacks.
            I wouldn't be surprised at all if we see blackouts and power grid failures this winter.
            1. +1
              20 September 2024 14: 31
              "I wouldn't be surprised at all if we see blackouts and power grid failures this winter."

              this will definitely happen, so we need to prepare
    4. -6
      20 September 2024 12: 27
      Now only a fool or a traitor is talking about negotiations and concluding a truce. Whose side are you?
      War until victory and that's it, as Clausewitz said.
      1. +6
        20 September 2024 13: 04
        Quote: Kurganets-45
        Now only a fool or a traitor is talking about negotiations and concluding a truce. Whose side are you?
        War until victory and that's it, as Clausewitz said.


        I think the opposite - it is the enemy or the fool who speaks of an endless war, but I do not know which is more dangerous. Considering that all the benefits are received far abroad, one might think that all this was invented by them.

        We have been fighting for over 2 years, suffering human and economic losses and have not achieved victory or even an advantage. Why does anyone think that we will fight for another 10 years and win if we have not been able to win in these years?
        1. 0
          21 September 2024 10: 53
          If someone hopes that there will be a real "truce", if someone thinks that the war or the SVO will end, then he is an obvious fool. After the "truce" there will be the acceptance of the Ukrainian Reich into NATO, on "exceptional conditions" and that against which the SVO began will become a reality.
          And the farther, the worse.
        2. 0
          21 September 2024 17: 37
          Quote: S.Z.
          It is the enemy who speaks of endless war

          The enemy has been massively "persuading" for many years, using Kedmi-Kovtuns and other methods of fooling, that -
          1) "We'll just raise an eyebrow!"
          2) Analogue weapons "based on new physical principles" make up 70% of our gigantic arsenal.
        3. +2
          22 September 2024 00: 52
          What options do we have? After all, we were given a clear understanding that all this can only be stopped under certain conditions, namely the 1991 borders, the extradition of "war criminals" and reparations. Do you agree to this arrangement?
          1. 0
            22 September 2024 00: 55
            Quote: Jose
            Do you agree to this arrangement?

            I don't, like any normal person.
            1. +2
              22 September 2024 00: 58
              And I don't, and therefore we have no right to defeat. Defeat means the collapse of the country. And then the Third World War for the division of its remains.
              1. 0
                22 September 2024 10: 42
                You are running around with this Third World War as if it were a written bag. A world war presupposes the presence of two opposing blocs, comparable in military-technical and economic terms and ready for a direct clash. In the current situation, how do you see the second bloc?
        4. +1
          22 September 2024 10: 27
          Sergey, the whole problem is that we are not fighting, they are fighting us, and we have the SVO. There are plenty of examples of this - take a closer look at the footage of Ukrainian positions occupied by our soldiers, when another war correspondent broadcasts about a captured fortified area, what do you see? If this is not a populated area, then it is simply a hastily dug trench in a forest belt with a dugout for accommodating at most a squad - isn't that right? In the classic method of conducting offensive operations, the attacking troops do not even "bother" to storm such objects, they are simply bypassed, depriving them of supplies. Another example is needed - the events in the Kursk region. The enemy launched an unexpected attack and broke through to our territory. The simple logic of the events requires the military leadership to bring the nearby military units to full combat readiness for a quick counterattack. What is happening with us? And we are starting to transfer contract soldiers, who were taken to the rear for rest, and they are being brought into battle already in the Kursk region. This becomes very clear when the reports mention the numbers of the units fighting near Kursk. So, at the rate of the SVO, we have every chance of never winning.
    5. 0
      21 September 2024 13: 08
      You are wrong, the West does not want Ukraine, the West wants to destroy Russia.
    6. +1
      22 September 2024 00: 49
      Sir, on what terms are you going to end the SVO? The enemy has made it clear that these terms are only the 1991 borders, only a tribunal, only reparations. And no "buts", and nothing else, no "compromise options".
  9. -2
    20 September 2024 08: 25
    But it’s all the worse for the army and the military-political leadership of Ukraine – peace will come in any case.
    Like the change of seasons... Autumn will end, Winter will come.. It will definitely come.. So it is with the world.. Ukraine will run out of money, interest on loans will have to be paid anyway.. And these debts will be demanded someday, but for now everyone is happy with everything.. And then, peace on Russia's terms will bring nothing, a temporary respite for both sides. Another red line. "- Maybe you will take it in parts? - I would take it in parts, but I need it right away" (c).. We need the Ukrainian "Akhmat Kadyrov", we can't do without him.
    1. -1
      23 September 2024 22: 54
      Ukrainian "Akhmat Kadyrov"

      And where are we going to get the money to support another Chechnya? Ukraine will be bigger than Ichkeria. We don't want to pay reparations, right? And that's what they will be. How faithful will such a "concubine" be? Feeding the wolf... Well, you get the idea.
  10. +11
    20 September 2024 09: 22
    Another article explaining when something goes wrong.
    Their number has exceeded hundreds.

    By the way, the Great Patriotic War lasted 4 years. Against the 1st army of the world. The Central Military District has been going on for 2,5 years already. Against an army that was completely sold out by 2014 (according to our media)
    1. -4
      20 September 2024 12: 30
      so they supplied tens of times more weapons than they had
      1. +2
        20 September 2024 16: 48
        Quote: Nastia Makarova
        so they supplied tens of times more weapons than they had

        Thanks to what or to whom?
        Remember how the first timid deliveries of first aid kits and dry rations were made.
        And then what?
        And about communications - the same bridges across the Dnieper - even the Duma started talking, expressing surprise - is this complete stupidity or outright sabotage?
    2. +3
      20 September 2024 14: 45
      Quote: Max1995
      By the way, the Great Patriotic War lasted 4 years. against the 1st army of the world. The Central Military District has been going on for 2,5 years already.

      It can be added that the Soviet army liberated Ukraine from August 1943 to October 1944, that is, in 1 year and 2 months.
      1. +1
        22 September 2024 00: 56
        True, but the liberation of Ukraine cost the Red Army 3,5 million killed and wounded.
  11. +2
    20 September 2024 09: 48
    If we think in the categories of Western propagandists, then a peaceful end to events would be beneficial to both sides. But you shouldn't confuse someone with the whole country or whatever. The country for them is just a place to receive money, and specifically receive it, not earn it. They don't give a damn about the country and since there is a real threat to capital, negotiations are very likely and profitable for these gentlemen, there have already been attempts. If I was confident before that victory would be ours, now I have serious doubts. I'll be glad to be wrong, but my faith has diminished.
    1. +4
      20 September 2024 10: 46
      hi
      For them, the country is just a place to get money,
      Oh, come on, they care about us. They raised the retirement age, and everything is growing, what won't they touch, except demography
      1. +3
        20 September 2024 10: 48
        hi they care about us Oh, don't say it, but for some reason such concern makes me feel dreary drinks
    2. +1
      21 September 2024 10: 55
      But even in the “democratic” West, opening a criminal case against them is a piece of cake.
    3. -2
      23 September 2024 22: 59
      It seems that everything is correct, but here is this newfangled youth expression:
      They don't give a damn about the country

      Somehow it grates on the ear. Why are you mocking the Russian language? It is great, after all.
  12. 0
    20 September 2024 10: 28
    In the event of reconciliation on the West's terms, everyone will spit in your face.

    Because of these red lines, everyone is already spitting recourse
    1. +1
      20 September 2024 10: 47
      Only the lazy don't spit... smile
  13. +10
    20 September 2024 11: 40
    Therefore, when someone in the West and Ukraine tries to push the story of a peace treaty on the terms of Zelensky and Biden, you can safely hit him in the face with a brick. The Ukrainian Armed Forces are far from a disaster, and at least 15 percent of the enemy's military personnel are ready to rebel in the event of peace with Russia.

    The author got confused in his reasoning. It is obvious that there will be no rebellion in Ukraine if peace is concluded on Zelensky's terms.
    Military-industrial complex facilities are under constant threat.

    The author completely ignores the fact that the main military-industrial production for Ukraine is located in the West and is inaccessible to attacks.
    Russia's agreement to direct peace talks and a freeze on the conflict would seriously affect the country's international reputation.

    The very fact of the war with Ukraine and its course seriously affects the international reputation of Russia far from the best. Before the Second World War, the relations and level of contacts with the capitalist world of the communist USSR were better than now capitalist Russia has with this same world :((
    I can't recall a situation like this since the Crimean War, and I'm not even sure. The country is waging war without a single real ally! A few countries wanting to profit from the situation and a few neutral ones - and that's it. :(
    1. -4
      20 September 2024 13: 08
      I can't recall a situation like this since the Crimean War, and I'm not even sure.


      Finnish War 1939-1940.

      Both sides - participants in the Second World War - almost turned against us.

      But Stalin had the sense to finish it, having achieved the initial demands, and not demand more.
      1. +2
        20 September 2024 14: 18
        Then the situation was different - there was a big war going on.
        But Stalin had the sense to finish it, having achieved the initial demands, and not demand more.

        It would have been better not to start in those conditions. :((
    2. -1
      22 September 2024 01: 01
      Quote from solar
      The country is waging war without a single real ally!

      Our country has only 2 allies...
      1. +2
        22 September 2024 08: 53
        The only problem is that neither 1917 nor 1991 changed the situation :((
        1. 0
          22 September 2024 11: 52
          Quote from solar
          The only problem is that neither 1917 nor 1991 changed the situation.

          Well, unfortunately, these allies won’t be of much help against the internal enemy.
  14. +2
    20 September 2024 13: 00
    Quote: Nastia Makarova
    The continuation of the SVO does not pose any threat to Russia for a couple of years
    but stopping without a clear victory is a collapse


    A clear victory by what criteria? There will definitely be no second Potsdam or Nuremberg, nor will there be a storming of Berlin.

    The leadership saw the Istanbul Agreements as a victory. Will that suit you?

    And why is "stopping is an obvious collapse"? The collapse of Russia? Of course not, but the collapse of power - maybe. But power is not a pity. So, are we defending power?

    The majority opinion? It's not interesting, little depends on it. And no one will say the majority opinion - no one will ask for it.
    1. -1
      22 September 2024 01: 04
      Quote: S.Z.
      The leadership saw the Istanbul Agreements as a victory. Will that suit you?

      It certainly won’t suit me, because at best it will be a postponed, even bloodier war.
  15. kvv
    +8
    20 September 2024 13: 37
    a truce is a postponed war for children and grandchildren, but certainly not for Putin's children and his loyal and non-thieving friends
  16. +6
    20 September 2024 14: 52
    Gentlemen, any truce in Ukraine will be quite long, but at the same time it will be maximally deadly for us. We will lose Ukraine if we do not close this issue "to the maximum".
    Right now, among other things, a myth is being written there - and no matter how hard we try with these "denazifications", if it is not our territory, the myth will be finished and will take on flesh. In this "myth", Ukraine will be depicted for Ukrainians as a proud and absolutely separated people from the Russians, who defended their independence, identity, and so on and so forth, who withstood the blow of the "Asian hordes" with all their might, who publicly chose the path to Europe - Muscovite tyranny, and so on and so forth, with all the pathos that is presented, 100500 monuments, zombification of children from the potty, a bunch of TV series, glorified veterans of this conflict and a capital legendarium for all this business, which Tolkien and Martin would envy.
    It will be much easier to saw off "UkrainoNon-Russia" in this field than in the unstable Bandera swamp. Which is what they are doing now, but what will they really run to do with their tongues on their shoulders with all sails set on the day when we give them a truce without taking practically everything.

    Through this myth they will stupidly eradicate the remnants of the “Russian-speaking identity” that have not yet been eaten up, and they will also firmly weld themselves into “Euro-Atlanticism”, through blood and history, and there too a cool and mega-epic myth will be created on the basis of this, under which the popcorn will be gobbled up in no time.
    IMHO we shouldn't even think about any kind of truce, the best of the worst (there are no others) solution would be the regional inclusion of Ukrainian territories into the Russian Federation - with the exception of potentially unassimilable and frankly Western ones. And an uncompromising policy of Russification of these territories.
    With a couple of the remaining western regions, a peace is already concluded, which secures their herbivorous-buffer status and the absence of any further claims. A fake referendum is held on the territory of each region - immediately or some time after the capture. Through this, it is substantiated and summed up, although it is possible without this (and in my opinion it would be better and cleaner).

    I repeat - this is the best of the available solutions at the moment. The others are much worse in the medium-long term. The world will never be the same as before - we need to understand this. The death of hundreds of thousands of healthy men cannot be swept under the carpet and after some time we can start living as before. Either our "brainwashed" will work with this, or the hostile ones will work with this, and believe me, they will work on this topic to the maximum!
    1. 0
      20 September 2024 16: 51
      And the uncompromising policy of Russification of these territories

      And what to do with those who do not want to be “Russified”?
      1. +5
        20 September 2024 17: 21
        Do nothing. The policy of direct coercion usually comes from the clumsy use of other methods, more delicate. Conditions are created in which learning a language is an expensive matter, time-consuming and does not give any or almost no advantages. Conditions are created in which learning Russian is not expensive, there is a lot of content on it, there are many advantages. An expected period, during which there is an analysis of positive factors for the spread of the language and negative ones for the spread of Russian. Periodic adjustment of the initially listed conditions. All this is done gently, not in the legislative but in the actual-applicable and stock field.
        The state policy is titled as follows: there is no "Ukrainian language" - there is some of local dialects Russian. Two key points - SEVERAL and DIALECTS. In fact, the first is the case because "surzhik" is a dialect de facto, and various dilutions of surzhik are also dialects. And the very concept of Dialect and NOT a language, as it were, hints at the fact that there is no need to spend state or regional money on school teaching of Dialect. They will learn to Okat and Hekat themselves.

        I am now describing a process that is perhaps not the most aesthetically pleasing, but here we must also understand that in most of Ukraine 100 years ago there were also no huts standing and no forelocks running around.
        The USSR, in its stupidity, pursued a policy of 100 colors of the rainbow (this reminds me of something, doesn’t it?), in order to eliminate its destructive consequences, it is necessary to compensate for this policy, that’s all.
        If people like to communicate in the language in everyday life - go ahead. If they want to create private schools for the language - go ahead. Private means $$$ for the budget, it's just magical.
        But if they want to translate documents into the language, then at first it will be free, but gradually it will become a “service”, for which money will be charged as an optional option.
        Office work, legal proceedings, document flow - we are in the Russian Federation, everything is in Russian. News in Russian, cartoons for children, description of the composition of products on labels and in instructions - in Russian. And we wait.
        As a result, all those who have a real identity preserve it and bring profit, and those who don’t need it at all become Russified.
        There is no need to punish or force anyone. You just need to not contribute to development.
        1. +2
          20 September 2024 21: 01
          Quote: Knell Wardenheart
          The USSR, in its stupidity, pursued a policy of 100 colors of the rainbow (this reminds me of something, doesn’t it?), in order to eliminate its destructive consequences, it is necessary to compensate for this policy, that’s all.

          Thanks to this feeblemindedness, it was possible to almost instantly reassemble the country on new principles. And today's anti-Soviet fighters against the heavy communist legacy still cannot even build a real union state with Belarus, and not this strange homunculus called Sayuznaya Dzyarzhava
        2. -3
          20 September 2024 22: 24
          Office work, legal proceedings, document flow - we are in the Russian Federation, everything is in Russian. News in Russian, cartoons for children, description of the composition of products on labels and in instructions - in Russian

          Wait, wait. But wasn't there a fuss about this with Ukraine, like the Russian language is being oppressed, but in Russia we respect and value everyone? So this is what they do in Ukraine and there is a Nazi regime there, but if Russia wants to do this, then everything is ok, right?
          1. +3
            20 September 2024 23: 37
            Interstate relations are always Hottentot morality, whether the snobs like it or not. If you are strong enough to push your line, you push it and get profit and changes that are beneficial to you. If not, you are thrown off the mountain and you fall, and other ideas and another culture come to the vacated place.
            Having stirred up the hive, Ukraine began to actively fight processes that it objectively did not have the strength to stop. As a result, we have a direct antagonism of culture and a direct antagonism of state models. If you think that in such a case, at the terminal stages, it is reasonable and necessary to be sentimental and shuffle your feet, then you have more oil than intelligence.
            The more neglected the situation, the more radical the means by which it is treated. In the case of taking control of new territories, we must ensure their cultural and aesthetic homogeneity, otherwise we have enough examples of how this ends - we look at Yugoslavia, the history of many African countries, the division of British India into warring India and Pakistan, etc. Church prayers and the benevolent speeches of Leopold the Cat did not resolve these situations either in the bud or at the development stages - and then they burst like an abscess and first-class hemorrhoids were obtained.

            I am talking about eliminating the prerequisites for the problem and stopping the very root of further hostility. Otherwise, the division into "ours" and "not ours" will worsen and we will get endless open and aggressive antagonism and opposition of principles.
            Do we need Pakistan around? No. We can avoid it and we must avoid it.
            1. -4
              21 September 2024 14: 29
              Don't you feel any dissonance in your words? They oppress the language: they are Nazis and Banderites. We oppress: this is different, we need to understand.

              One of the declared reasons for war is the oppression of language, for this reason people were called to war. So that in the end you start behaving like an enemy, towards whom you cultivate hatred?
              1. +2
                21 September 2024 17: 18
                I don't often use these terms, so I shouldn't hang a pain in your stomach from our propaganda. Banderovites are those who revere Stepan Bender as a national hero. Despite the fact that his crimes have been proven, etc. If I use this word (which is rare), I mean specifically this, and not some things beyond the term.
                Nazis are those who are ready to directly exterminate other nations for the sake of their nationalistic ideas. Nationalist does not = Nazi.
                I have never spoken about the reasons for the 2014 war - there is no point in attributing your wet dreams to me on this matter. Moreover, the reason is not important to me at the moment - I am reasoning from the position of resolving the CURRENT situation and its context is of no concern to me.
                Are you familiar with the trolley dilemma? Sometimes you have to choose between the worst and the even worse. In these circumstances, the "right" choice ceases to be objective - because against a black background, gray is no longer so gray. The situation in its current form is so neglected that further cultural flirtations will continue the further development of the conflict line. I understand that you are not interested in the solution or the truth in the dispute - you want to find some inconsistencies, just like the Jesuits would look for them - but human laws are not the laws of physics. They are full of inconsistencies - this does not prevent us from living by them or changing them, if necessary, and living on.
                1. +2
                  23 September 2024 23: 10
                  I would vote for you in the Russian presidential elections. You reason sensibly.
              2. -1
                25 September 2024 05: 06
                Quote from Zebra
                Don't you feel any dissonance in your words? They oppress the language: they are Nazis and Banderites. We oppress: this is different, we need to understand.

                One of the declared reasons for war is the oppression of language, for this reason people were called to war. So that in the end you start behaving like an enemy, towards whom you cultivate hatred?

                They kill women and children, old people, but we don't! Do you feel the difference? And there was no Ukraine before 1917. Ukraine and Ukrainians (as a nation) are a project of Poland and later Austria-Hungary. Who doesn't want to live in Russia, good luck to the toilets of Poland or to the Vienna Opera to drink coffee with croissants.
                1. -1
                  25 September 2024 12: 19
                  They kill women and children, old people, but we don’t!

                  Well, yes, we are white and fluffy. Every shell and every missile hits only the military and military facilities. And if a civilian dies, then it is a disguised soldier and he is to blame.

                  If you don’t want to live in Russia, good luck to the toilets of Poland or to the Vienna Opera to drink coffee with croissants.

                  Here again - doublethink. The Ukrainians do it - Nazis and so on, we do the same - cool guys, whoever doesn't like it can leave.

                  And there was no Ukraine before 1917. Ukraine and Ukrainians (as a nation) are a project of Poland and later Austria-Hungary.

                  And even more so, I don't understand the appeals to the past. What difference does it make what happened 100 years ago, who is whose project, etc., if we live today? Or does the fact that Ukraine didn't exist 100 years ago give you any special rights? Did you inherit the rights? This is all nonsense and we need to live today, and not dabble in nostalgic pictures of past greatness.
                  1. +1
                    25 September 2024 12: 28
                    Well, yes, we are white and fluffy.

                    You - I don't know, the Russian Armed Forces do not strike populated areas with unguided weapons; when storming cities, they give time and opportunity for the civilian population to escape, including to their own detriment.
                    1. +1
                      25 September 2024 12: 32
                      What do you mean by unguided weapons? Artillery? MLRS? Has none of this been used by the Russian Armed Forces?
                      1. 0
                        25 September 2024 12: 46
                        Was none of this used by the Russian Armed Forces?

                        Absolutely right, they were not used against unencircled cities.
                      2. +1
                        25 September 2024 12: 49
                        So Kherson or Kharkov are already surrounded? The first one was even shelled with mortars.
                      3. 0
                        25 September 2024 13: 29
                        During urban combat? Maybe we can compare? Belgorod is regularly hit by MLRS, can you tell me what military necessity there is to hit the RS-mi market?
                      4. +1
                        25 September 2024 13: 42
                        And what about urban battles in Kherson and Kharkov? What is there to compare?

                        You just have to be objective. War is terrible and civilians always suffer. Don't have any illusions that in a modern war one side will play the knight.
                      5. 0
                        25 September 2024 14: 06
                        And what about urban battles in Kherson and Kharkov? What is there to compare?

                        Actually, there were. There are military personnel in the city limits, the city is being stormed, attacks are being carried out. Is that logical?
                        You just need to be objective already.

                        This is the point of view of the Armed Forces of Ukraine that justifies it. stop Like they are bad and we are no better. Nothing of the sort. What military necessity was there to fire a TR with a cluster warhead at the center of Donetsk? What military necessity was there to strike an apartment building in the Moscow region with a strike UAV?
                      6. 0
                        25 September 2024 14: 17
                        I understand your point of view, we can continue no further.
                      7. -1
                        25 September 2024 14: 19
                        No problem. When the methodology changes, write to me, we'll talk.
                      8. +1
                        25 September 2024 14: 24
                        lol, kek, cheburek)) it's worth expressing your opinion and immediately they accuse you of manuals. It's surprising that they haven't said that I'm because of Ukraine, tsipso, etc.
                      9. 0
                        25 September 2024 15: 01
                        lol, kek, cheburek))

                        I don't care at all whether you are an enthusiast or a salaryman, a citizen of the Russian Federation/Ukraine/another country. What matters is the arguments, not the position.
                      10. +1
                        25 September 2024 15: 38
                        And what about the expediency of a missile hitting a house in Dnepr? The expediency of mortar shelling of Kherson? The expediency of a war with transformers that harmed only civilians? Just yesterday there was a missile landing on a residential building in Kharkov. And these are only significant events.

                        The arguments are that you can also give examples of senseless strikes on civilians by the Russian Armed Forces. If you don't want to notice them or find any reason to justify them every time, then why bother at all.
                      11. 0
                        25 September 2024 15: 54
                        the advisability of hitting a house in Dnepr with a missile?

                        Were there military personnel stationed in the house?
                        Is it advisable to shell Kherson with mortars?

                        During the battles for the city?
                        The expediency of a war with transformers that only harmed civilians?

                        Do Ukrainian enterprises not produce weapons, ammunition, military equipment and gear for the Ukrainian Armed Forces?
                        Just yesterday there was an attack on a residential building in Kharkov. And these are only significant events.

                        And for this you can thank your own air defense.
                        The arguments are that one can also cite examples of senseless attacks on civilians by the Russian Armed Forces.

                        It is possible, but you do not cite them, combining fundamentally different situations. Donetsk, Kursk, Belgorod are not being stormed by the Ukrainian Armed Forces, what is the military sense in throwing a package of RS from a MLRS or a dozen shells is a great secret for me request
                      12. +1
                        25 September 2024 16: 14
                        Were there military personnel stationed in the house?

                        An entire house of military personnel. Including a 4-year-old girl who died.

                        During the battles for the city?

                        After difficult decisions, when Russian troops left the city. There was no fighting there.

                        Do Ukrainian enterprises not produce weapons, ammunition, military equipment and gear for the Ukrainian Armed Forces?

                        Maybe then it's worth hitting them right away? Where is the logic in destroying transformers if they are being repaired anyway and energy goes to military factories first?

                        And for this you can thank your own air defense.

                        I see installations every day in the fields of Timiryazev Agricultural Academy. What do they have to do with it? I don't understand.

                        It is possible, but you do not cite them, combining fundamentally different situations. Donetsk, Kursk, Belgorod are not being stormed by the Ukrainian Armed Forces, what is the military sense in throwing a package of RS from a MLRS or a dozen shells is a great secret for me

                        So nobody stormed Kharkov yesterday, but they flew into the house. Nobody has stormed Kherson for a long time, but they still fly there. Kyiv is the same.

                        Note that I am not justifying the Ukrainian Armed Forces for striking civilian targets. I am simply pointing out that everyone does it. And by the way, how many times did they shell Kursk or Belgorod before February 22, 2022?
                      13. -1
                        25 September 2024 16: 26
                        An entire house of military personnel. Including a 4-year-old girl who died.

                        So you guarantee that there were no soldiers in the house, and that Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers are not housed in civilian homes?
                        There was no fighting there.

                        That is, there were no battles, but it was the Russian Armed Forces that fired mortars at the city at the moment of abandonment?
                        Maybe then it’s worth hitting them right away?

                        The enterprises are large, the capacities can be located anywhere, and the transformers are a stationary, pre-determined target. The consumption is lower
                        What do they have to do with it? I don't understand.

                        The consumption of SAMs is high, there is no production, we have to use old ones with expired shelf life. It's not the first time, do you know?
                        Please note that I never justify the Ukrainian Armed Forces for striking civilian targets.

                        And this is one of the methods of justification, the gentlemen from Israel also use it with all their might. They are the same, so it's possible!
                        And by the way, how many times was Kursk or Belgorod shelled before February 22, 2022?

                        Not once, but in 2016, the GUR bombarded a sabotage and reconnaissance group in Crimea, and an FSB officer and a border guard were killed in the process. There were shellings of border settlements, and just before the conflict, a Ukrainian Armed Forces infantry fighting vehicle drove across the border. More than enough for a casus belli.
                      14. +1
                        25 September 2024 17: 11
                        If you dig deeper, you will find rational arguments for any shelling on the Ukrainian side. As if there are no soldiers in the city center in Donetsk.

                        You will look for an excuse anyway, so the discussion is pointless.
                      15. 0
                        25 September 2024 17: 16
                        As if in Donetsk there are no military personnel in the city center.

                        Of course there are, but what do tactical missiles with cluster warheads, unguided missiles or RS have to do with it?
                        You will look for an excuse anyway, so the discussion is pointless.

                        You don't seem to understand, no one is trying to convince you of anything. I'm just checking my arguments, nothing more.
                      16. 0
                        25 September 2024 22: 26
                        Of course there are, but what do tactical missiles with cluster warheads, unguided missiles or RS have to do with it?

                        The gist of your statements: Russia only uses unguided weapons against the military, if civilians are hurt, then there were military personnel nearby. But at the same time, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are terrorists because they are striking, for example, Donetsk. I am reporting that there are also military personnel there and there is a rationale for the Ukrainian Armed Forces to carry out such strikes.

                        You don't seem to understand, no one is trying to convince you of anything. I'm just checking my arguments, nothing more.

                        Aren't you trying to prove that the Ukrainian Armed Forces are scum and the Russian Federation is good when everyone is doing the same thing? If not, then why did you even decide to respond to a message that wasn't originally addressed to you?
                      17. 0
                        26 September 2024 17: 59
                        The gist of your statements:

                        No, why distort? The essence of my statements is that Russia does not strike at obviously civilians, a house/school/kindergarten/hotel occupied by military personnel is not a civilian target. Russia tries to minimize civilian losses, for example, through humanitarian pauses and corridors, during assaults on populated areas, including to its own detriment, since the enemy uses this to strengthen the defense. Well, ours do not pound markets with MLRS or a tactical missile with a cluster warhead on a city, which the Ukrainian Armed Forces have repeatedly done, they do not strike a colony or shoot down a transport plane with their own prisoners.
                        Aren't you trying to prove

                        For myself and only for myself. I am not trying to convince anyone, I am only checking my arguments and thoughts.
                      18. 0
                        26 September 2024 22: 07
                        Continue believing in fairy tales, I won’t interfere.
          2. -1
            22 September 2024 01: 13
            Quote from Zebra
            That is what they do in Ukraine

            There is no need to mock the Russian language, it would be correct in Ukraine.
            1. +1
              25 September 2024 12: 24
              You can say it either way. There is no hard and fast rule that regulates this, it is just a common pronunciation that can also change.
              1. 0
                25 September 2024 13: 16
                Quote from Zebra
                There is no hard and fast rule that governs this.

                Zhirinovsky had a different opinion.
                1. 0
                  25 September 2024 13: 23
                  Was Zhirinovsky a philologist? Wiki says he studied oriental languages.
      2. 0
        22 September 2024 01: 08
        Quote from Zebra
        And what to do with those who do not want to be “Russified”?

        Suitcase, train station, gayrope. If they are gay-Europeans, then their place is in their historical homeland.
  17. 0
    20 September 2024 15: 30
    In the “aquarium of political correctness” that the US/UK have created, isolating Ukraine and Russia from the initiators, leaders and beneficiaries of this conflict, there are no correct questions or truthful answers.
    Everything that arises in it, by the conditions of its birth, is a lie and disinformation.
    Ukraine is a puppet in the hands of its masters - the USA/Great Britain, their mindless war machine.
    Russia is a puppet of the situation created by the US/UK with the help of Ukraine.
    Both countries are now destroying each other in the master’s “meat grinder”, sacrificing their populations for the sake of his enrichment.
    Beyond the boundaries of the "aquarium of political correctness" lies the true picture of reality - the war of their slaves - NATO countries and Japan with Russia, already started by the USA/Great Britain. In this war, the first of the theaters of military operations planned by the States was created (near Kursk).
    The questions of “truce”, “negotiations”, “NCO”, “denazification”, etc. in this reality are intended to distract us from the real agenda.
    It consists in the fact that the enemy (USA/Great Britain) has a 4,5 times superiority in manpower of its slaves (not counting Japan), is interested in our war with them and is already drawing us into it with the goal of guaranteed destruction.
    Russia is interested in the opposite - it needs to force the US/UK to wind it down and retreat without getting drawn into this war. To do this, it needs a threat of unacceptable damage to US/UK territory with the readiness to implement it.
    In 1962, the USSR thus forced the United States to abandon nuclear war and retreat.
  18. -1
    20 September 2024 20: 07
    We can think whatever we want about the government. The government doesn't give a damn about any of our stuff. The Guarantor has his own virtual reality: from the officials how to steal more, from the Olegarchs to rob what is possible.
    And whether it will be a deal or not, we will not be asked. Yesterday the guarantor remembered about the security of the border regions, and this is in the second month of occupation.
    1. 0
      20 September 2024 23: 58
      In the war started by the USA/UK, there is no "deal" - our destruction is envisaged, on the fronts of the war with their slaves, and in the death camps by dismantling the survivors for organs. If we are not satisfied with this prospect - the country needs to change the government to a government that will save it and force the USA/UK to retreat.
      It would be better if the current government itself does this - otherwise it will be finished off along with the country.
  19. -1
    21 September 2024 07: 55
    Quote from Zebra
    And what to do with those who do not want to be “Russified”?


    Give it to the Poles or Hungarians. If you don't want Russification, get Polonization. And as they say, "feel the difference"...
  20. -1
    21 September 2024 08: 00
    Quote from Zebra
    Wait, wait. Wasn't there a fuss about this with Ukraine, saying that the Russian language is being oppressed, but we in Russia respect and value everyone?


    Yes, we respect and value it, because in the national republics there are, in addition to the state Russian, their own local regional languages.
    In Ukraine, the Russian language was denied the status of even a regional language, despite the fact that in Ukraine it is the native language of more than half of the population.
  21. -1
    21 September 2024 08: 08
    Quote: S.Z.
    The leadership saw the Istanbul Agreements as a victory. Will that suit you?


    Well, it seems that our opponents saw the conclusion of the Istanbul Agreements as their defeat, and that is why they disrupted them.
    Let me remind you of the conditions:
    1. De facto recognition of the independence of the LPR and DPR and the state affiliation of Crimea to Russia.
    2. Neutral, non-aligned status of Ukraine. Ban on the deployment of foreign bases on Ukrainian territory.
    3. Reduction of the number of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and fixation (not exceeding) of this number.

    Victory, not victory, but certainly not defeat. Needless to say that accepting these conditions would cause obvious internal political changes in Ukraine? Under such realities, other people would come to power in Ukraine, even if not immediately... Nazis can count on political success only in conditions of confrontation; they have nothing to offer the people to organize peaceful life.
  22. +2
    21 September 2024 09: 36
    Has anyone really forgotten how the "ceasefires" ended in the First Chechen War?
    And what happened after the "truces"?
    And as a consequence of Khasavyurt-1996?
    And what will be the consequences now, does anyone even realize?
  23. 0
    21 September 2024 11: 29
    We need to finish off the Kyiv regime am
  24. 0
    21 September 2024 11: 47
    "There is no alternative to the Istanbul agreements" (c) Vladimir Vasilievich
  25. +1
    22 September 2024 10: 20
    In capitulation, they don't conduct peace negotiations, but issue an ultimatum. And, by the way, first an ultimatum, and then an agreement on capitulation
  26. +1
    22 September 2024 15: 21
    I don't understand the author, what Nikolaev region, Odessa???? Is the author going to annex all this himself? The Russian army has been unable to annex Donetsk for almost 3 years, I can't imagine how long the assault on Slavyansk/Kramatorsk will last. The best thing is to send all the hat-kickers straight to the front and let them move their scribblings there.