This is a national treason!

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A well-known economist, academician Avagyan comments on the statement of the Russian economic official that the Russian economy will not do without migrants.

This is a national treason!


“For normal development, the Russian economy needs to attract migrants,” said experts at a meeting of the leaders of expert groups for developing the Strategy-2020 report with participants of the Youth Strategy-2020 inter-university research group. We asked the academician EvraAPI VL Avagyan how this statement of economists lured near the government corresponds to reality, and what stands behind it.

Vazgen Liparitovich, a man of the highest degree of competence in the matter, both as a scientist and as a person who is hard to suspect of dislike for migrants, told us for EiM the following:

-This is an incompetent lie, and it is a mischievous lie. It is harmful because it sanctions an accelerated replacement of the Russian people by others, the transformation of the whole of Russia into one big Kosovo. I suppose that behind this, directly or indirectly, are the circles of world Satanism, sharply hating the Russian people and dreaming of destroying it with any hands they turn up.

- But you said the same, that this is an incompetent lie?

-Absolutely! The Russian economy of the modern type is an economy of pipe and raw materials, there is not only a shortage of workers in it, on the contrary, in it up to 80% of the population (indigenous, we note, and not migrant) - are objectively unnecessary. In order to create a shortage of workers in the Russian Federation, a completely different type of economy is needed. At the present time, the Government is constantly talking about reducing the over-diluted states of one or the other department. But at the same time, they forget why the states were puffed up: it was necessary to employ some people “extra” in the economy of the pipe people so that they would not go to the barricades ...


The real production sector of the Russian Federation in comparison with the RSFSR decreased by 4-5 times. The population, fortunately for all of us, people who love the Russian people, has not decreased so much. The population is going down, it is interest and terrible interest, but still not times, as in production and the real economy.
How is it possible in a situation where we have over-diluted states of all almshouses, saying that the Russian economy needs migrants? What are they for - to replenish the already overblown states of almshouses ?!
The truth is that the modern Russian man simply has no place to work on his land. Most of the wages in the country are not wages in the full sense of the word, but unemployment benefits provided by the state-charity.

Not to be unfounded - here, I will take the number of the newspaper “Pro work” (takes the newspaper from my desktop). Here it is written (quoted) in black and white:

“... the gloomiest forecasts of experts began to justify themselves - in Russia a series of massive staff cuts began ... The fact that mass dismissals began in Russia is no longer in doubt. At the same time, several large credit organizations announced the reduction of employees at once. And it is not only about brokers, financiers and bank employees. Now even those who have nothing to do with finances are at risk of losing their jobs. The reduction of personnel goes in a number of industries, construction, trade, financial sector and services. The largest automakers, KamAZ and GAZ, announced the layoffs.
... According to experts, in a number of companies, reductions reached 30-40, or even more percent from the staff ... First of all, this affected the downstream link - in some places it was cut by 80%. The middle segment is 20%. Top managers suffered least of all: they were reduced by only 5-10% - first of all, deputies.
... Often dismissals are disguised as forced unlimited vacation. Increasingly, employers abandon the regular unit, hiring people under temporary contracts or simply loading the rest.
According to a study by consulting company AXES Management, every second employer in Russia is preparing massive layoffs ... and plans to fire an average of 10% of staff ... ironically, every third or fourth in retail networks will lose their jobs.
The Russian Union of Industrialists and Entrepreneurs (RSPP) proposes an amendment to the Labor Code that would cancel the employer's obligation to pay wages to an employee who has been discharged for redundancies within two months. RSPP proposes to shift this duty from the employer to the state ... "

Well (Vazgen Liparitovich says already from himself) - this is all well known and everyone felt the same way. There is no work in Russia. No work for their own. What kind of migrants and in what areas can we talk about ?!

“But Vazgen Liparitovich, we are convinced that migrants go to dirty and black work, where the local people simply don’t want to go ...”

-And again a lie. People do not want to go to work at all, and they always do it forcedly, because they want to eat. So you need to feed on dirty jobs better, pay more ... Then pull over! But the employer is mean, he does not want to lure local bonuses, he wants to get Kyrgyz for nothing, not thinking about the future of the country or the future of his people. I have said and will always talk about the absolutely obvious law of economics: ANY IMPROVEMENT OF THE OFFER OF THE WORKING POWER DROPS PAYMENT FOR LABOR IN THE COUNTRY. The more willing to get a job, the lower the salary. On the contrary, it is quite obvious to competent specialists that the less willing to take a vacancy, the higher in the end wages on it. Creating with your own hands in your own country an artificial reduction of wages by the import of migrants is either madness or something worse than madness, smelling of national and civil treason!

Here! (Vazgen Liparitovich angrily shook papers in his hand) Information: the RF Ministry of Finance wants to reduce 2013% of civil servants in 25 year. The reduction will concern, first of all, secretaries, archivists, clerks - "providing specialists" in federal, regional and municipal authorities. The implementation of the program, according to preliminary estimates, can leave without work up to 200 thousand Russian civil servants. Here's another thing: the number of the Federal Drug Control Service (FSKN) by 2016 will be reduced by 15%. Here's another message: "Mail of Russia" 8 reduced the percentage of its staff. The cuts affected about 33 thousands of people ... And so on for each department. The number of workers in factories and factories of the Russian Federation, as compared with 1991, according to the State Statistics Committee, has decreased by a factor of 4 - that is, where 40 worked thousand people, 10 thousand remained at best.

Practically there is not a single enterprise that would expand the staffs: there is a total reduction of staff by everyone and everywhere. "The number of unemployed is growing in Russia," Rosstat told 1 in March. He published data from a sample survey of the population on employment problems in January. According to its results, the number of official unemployment in comparison with December of last year in Russia increased immediately by 17% - by 652 thousand people, having reached the level of 4,447 million people.
The official unemployment rate (which is at least 3 times lower than the real one) was 6% of the working-age population, Regions.ru website informs. At the end of January 2013, only state institutions of the employment service registered more than 1 million people as unemployed That 0,7% more compared to December 2012 year.
At the same time, no matter how cynical it sounds, it is necessary in this context: as compared with December 2012, the number of the employed population in January 2013 decreased by 810 thousand people, or by 1,1%. The number of jobs decreases much faster than the population dies ...

Under these conditions, trustworthy government advisers emerge and begin to say that we cannot do without a massive influx of migrants. Are they in their mind?

I will not be unsubstantiated, I will quote: “The economy of our country cannot fail to attract migrants,” explained the Rector of the Higher School of Economics, Yaroslav Kuzminov. “Rector of the RANEPA under the President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Mau agreed with him” - report news belt.

And these two people, who are considered to be the economic theorists of the Russian authorities, offer, under the conditions of total unemployment and the uselessness of people to actual production (which is simply minimized) ... to simplify the rules for obtaining citizenship for guest workers.
There are few wild migrations from Asia - they still offer sabotage - I quote - “since the economy cannot do without guest workers, this sphere is civilized”. They believe that the introduction of the post of ombudsman for the rights of migrants would contribute to this. “Creating an (institution) ombudsman for migrants' rights will help protect the rights of migrants and protect them from the arbitrariness of officials and employers,” said Pavel Prokofyev, member of the Youth Strategy 2020 research group.

The ombudsman can be useful from the point of view of “PR of the problem” - that is, he can voice the problems of migrants in society, the head of the laboratory of inter-budgetary relations of the Institute of Economic Policy named after them agreed. E. T. Gaidar Vladimir Nazarov. “The problem is falling apart: the FMS is engaged in one, the police in another, and it is not clear who should look at this sphere in a comprehensive manner. The ombudsman will be useful to articulate this problem, ”said Nazarov.

How can I comment on such news? Apparently, we are talking about direct national treason with a cynical use of official position. All of the above people receive salaries from the state and enjoy the authority of experts in the Kremlin. They pose a problem absolutely falsely and solve it falsely. With a catastrophic shortage of jobs for their citizens, they propose to haul foreigners in cars, populating Russian cities with foreign tribes, most often wild and hostile to the whole Russian ...

-Vazgen Liparitovich, in your opinion, what are the real needs of the modern type of economy of the Russian Federation in people and how many Russia, with the current model of the economy, really have extra citizens?

- To begin with, let's not forget the law of economics that all students of economic universities teach in the 1 course if they have not bought their diploma: the need for people in any industry with progress is objectively reduced, and the abundant supply of cheap labor BRAINS MECHANIZATION AND AUTOMATION OF PRODUCTIONS.

Let us recall at least the Volga merchants, who rejected the project of the self-propelled barge Kulibin because of the cheapness and availability of the haulers! The cheaper and more available to the business of workers - the more reluctant it is to introduce new technologies. Those who import masses of guest workers into the Russian Federation, thus, artificially inhibit the process of technical re-equipment of Russian production.

But this is not all. We talked about production in general - to which excessive supply of labor services is extremely harmful - as dropping wages and hampering technical progress. Now let us analyze the situation that these “experts” have created specifically for the Russian Federation. In Russia, a raw materials economy, an economy of natural rent, is built. For a real full service of all this economic configuration, 30 million people would be enough for the eyes.

I take not only those servicing the pipe, but also those who would teach them, heal, entertain and in any other way serve in the service areas. This is exactly the population comparable to the Russian Federation on the climate and territory of Canada - namely, 35 million 500 thousand people. The population of Australia is 19 million. Whoever said that capitalism in the Russian Federation will claim many more hands - spit in the face. It is no longer necessary IN THIS TYPE OF ECONOMIC RELATIONS, THE LABOR MARKET IS NOT DEMANDED. More can be maintained only at the expense of one or another charity. That charity, which V.Putin, by the way, was engaged in quite actively in the fat oil years, was actually BUILDING TUNIADERS - so they voted for him.

Russia has two problems. The first is where to put those 100 million people who do not fit into the labor market? The second - in 30 million of real vacancies, migrants from Asia will also fit in - that is, even this insignificant quota for Russians is canceled, as a quota for Russians, for it is proposed to compete with all the tribes and languages ​​of a poor starving planet for fun by the owners of enterprises!

-And should we tell this to all Russians immediately?

Yes, it is our duty as economists to tell everyone immediately and

GOVERNMENTAL EXPERTS PROMOTES A NATIONAL CHANGE UNDER THE COVERING OF THE SERVICE POSITION WITH THE INTRODUCTION TO THE ERROR MANAGEMENT OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION HEARING TO THOSE EXPERTS!
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  1. fenix57
    +3
    6 March 2013 07: 11
    No, no ... Russia has always had two troubles ... according to the classics (roads ... fools ...). And do not ascribe new:"Russia has two problems. First, what to do with those 100 million people who do not fit into the labor market? Second, migrants from Asia will also get into 30 million real vacancies ..."- all this is far-fetched, someone needs it ......
    1. +26
      6 March 2013 09: 09
      In addition to this article:

      An open letter from the head of the portal Superjob.ru, Alexei Zakharov, to the President of the Russian Federation

      http://www.superjob.ru/info/announcement.html?id=111332
      Dear Mr. President!

      You set the task of creating 25 millions of “good and well-paid" jobs by 2020 year. This is a great challenge, and we, as employers, are both in favor of it.

      But the real human resources policy is that by the year 2020 there will be additional 25 million jobs created for low-skilled migrants. This is in addition to the 10 — 15 millions of jobs that are already created for them.
      As a result of state policy in the coming decades, the number of low-skilled migrants attracted from abroad will be more than half of the economically active population of the country.

      PS

      Why did I decide to write this letter? I have been talking about this for several years now: newspapers, radio, television, the Internet ... And if only I’d be alone. I am discussing this topic with high-ranking federal officials with whom you, Mr. President, are also personally acquainted. All hair stand on end on what is happening. But ... I ask my friends: well, you are the power, why are you silent? And in response, I hear: we are not there TAM (meaningfully looking up).

      Hear us, Mr. President!

      Head of Superjob.ru portal
      Alexey Zakharov
      1. consul
        +6
        6 March 2013 10: 16
        without words ... (A newspaper can, for example, be called "Russian Idea", especially if it hides anti-Russian and hostile to Orthodoxy Catholic propaganda; or "United Russia", especially if the newspaper program includes an imperceptible preparation of minds for dismemberment and disintegration of Russia. "(I. Ilyin." Our tasks "1954)
      2. S_mirnov
        +19
        6 March 2013 10: 37
        Before us is another article from the series "But the men don't know!"
        They say some evil Experts are replacing the indigenous population of the Russian Federation with migrants. And for those who did not understand, in a LARGE Font at the end of the article it is written that the government does not matter here because it does not know anything (especially the "good king") laughing And as soon as he finds out, he will expel all migrants and there will be Russian happiness!
        No, gullible reader, do not flatter yourself, attracting migrants is the policy of our government and GDP. They are fully aware of what they are doing by signing decrees on the acquisition of Russian citizenship by migrants.
        After all, migrants are a dumb absolutely controlled mass that our government owes nothing to, and in case of disobedience it can also deprive citizenship. It is necessary to stand at a rally with posters - on the first order of the owner!
        But Russians brought up in the USSR, in general dosihpor, believe that land and minerals are national property and are outraged when their homeland is robbed, a very uncomfortable population!
        http://demotivation.me/em3zefm5fl0upic.html
        http://demotivation.me/78q16znugxkzpic.html
        http://news.rambler.ru/16071518/
        http://news.mail.ru/politics/10796832/?frommail=1
        1. +1
          6 March 2013 11: 00
          Quote: S_mirnov
          And for those who did not understand, in a LARGE FONT at the end of the article it is written that the government doesn’t know anything here (especially the "good tsar") laughing And as soon as it finds out, it will drive out all migrants and it will be Russian happiness!

          Well, you’ve gone too far! Of course they all know!
          1. S_mirnov
            +7
            6 March 2013 12: 37
            But in the article it says "WITH INTRODUCTION TO THE DELUSION OF THE LEADERSHIP OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION" - it is becoming very fashionable, here Serdyukov women were misled, and the government is EXPERTS!
            This is even a kind of disrespect to the minds of readers of the magazine.
      3. +3
        6 March 2013 12: 12
        Quote: nycsson
        You set the task of creating 25 millions of “good and well-paid" jobs by 2020 year. This is a great challenge, and we, as employers, are both in favor of it.

        But the real human resources policy is leading to an additional 2020 million jobs for low-skilled migrants by the year of 25.

        Really planned reduction of qualified personnel. I want to remind:
        The government approved a plan of activities aimed at improving the efficiency of education and science for the next 6 years.

        It is expected to increase the workload of school teachers and university professors due to the number of students per teacher. At the same time, it can be seen from the above parameters of the dynamics that the number of teachers for the 2018 year is planned to be reduced by 87 thousand people, teachers - by 261 thousand.

        Even the reduction of university teachers, given the blatantly biased assessment of Russian universities, requires careful consideration.
        And we can't talk about school teachers. Their reduction is a course towards further debilization of the Russian education.
        By the way, in Soviet times, not uncommon cases were encountered when teachers left the school to the janitors. Because they paid accordingly and did not have the opportunity to appropriate money that was not paid for by migrant workers.
        1. 0
          6 March 2013 12: 25
          Quote: kosopuz
          it can be seen from the above dynamics that the number of teachers by 2018 is planned to be reduced by 87 thousand people, teachers - by 261 thousand.

          Who is reducing the number of teachers MASTERBAYERS?
          No, our native officials, the so-called civil servants.
          Let the bricks be put to the construction site, let them lay down the bricks, they work as concrete workers, and then you can send the guests to their homeland.
    2. Octavian avgust
      +11
      6 March 2013 10: 13
      Russia has two troubles: a corrupt elite and a liberal intelligentsia that hates their own people!
      1. S_mirnov
        +4
        6 March 2013 10: 38
        I would correct it a bit: corrupt government and liberal intelligentsia!
        1. +2
          6 March 2013 11: 19
          Quote: S_mirnov
          I would slightly correct: a corrupt government and liberal intelligentsia

          Sorry, Sasha. I minus by mistake. I’ll fix it.
          1. S_mirnov
            +4
            6 March 2013 12: 39
            Yes, no problem, not in the stars on uniform wink
        2. +3
          6 March 2013 17: 10
          Quote: S_mirnov
          I would slightly correct

          I will also try: LIBERAL government and the SALE intelligentsia
          1. S_mirnov
            +2
            6 March 2013 17: 52
            "Selling intelligentsia" is vryatli, our intelligentsia is not needed for nothing after the collapse of the USSR, and certainly no one needs to bribe it.
            1. +2
              6 March 2013 18: 59
              Quote: S_mirnov
              it's vryatli, nobody wants our intelligentsia for nothing

              Well, if liberal, then it is corrupt. How is one without the other? About "not needed for nothing"; there is a buyer for every product, the main thing is that the product is offered for sale.
  2. Fox
    +17
    6 March 2013 07: 12
    firmly, clearly, truthfully. admirers of the great PU, your word !.
    1. +6
      6 March 2013 07: 25
      Quote: Fox
      true. admirers of the great pu

      And what short name Obama do not write?
      1. Vanek
        +4
        6 March 2013 07: 32
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        abbreviated surname of Obama


        Ob-ba
        1. +2
          6 March 2013 07: 54
          Quote: Vanek
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          abbreviated surname of Obama


          Ob-ba


          Then really
          The helpers no longer know what topic they should get stuck on. That way in a year or two THEME for them may not be at all.
          1. Ruslan80
            +2
            6 March 2013 09: 42
            And here they don’t need to cling, Putin always throws a topic to aggravate the situation of Russia !!!
            1. -2
              6 March 2013 09: 58
              Yes, you do not care who is in power, if only to pour dirt on Russia. Everything is according to the principle: the cat has nothing to do, it scratches the ass with a stone. And just didn’t you try to live and arrange your life yourself, without interfering with anyone?
              1. Ruslan80
                +3
                6 March 2013 11: 06
                I try! But the power, headed by Putin, puts sticks in the wheels, just adapt and they increase the level of complexity! If you sit in the warmth and keep quiet!
                1. +2
                  6 March 2013 13: 28
                  Quote: Ruslan80
                  and keep quiet


                  I don’t shut your mouth and I advise others not to try to do it. It looks like a jerk again, since so communicate with strangers!
                  Yes, it has become hard for trolls recently, they are constantly being raised the level of difficulty. lol
              2. +3
                6 March 2013 16: 13
                Quote: alexneg
                Yes, you do not care who is in power, if only to pour dirt on Russia

                So much dirt on the country was poured by its presidents and governments for 21 years.
                1. The predatory privatization of the 90s.
                1a. Putin's refusal to review privatization results
                2. Housing and communal services reform
                3. Education reform
                4. Reform of medicine
                5.Mr. Serdyukov
                6. WTO
                7. The second wave of privatization
                8. Migration
                9. Corruption from top to bottom.
                10 theft of elites
                Can you say something on each item positive?
                Negligent officials did all this, but the president had nothing to do with it?
                1. -3
                  6 March 2013 16: 29
                  Well, how much dirt the trolls poured on Russia and now they continue to pour, then both the government and the president in this regard look in comparison with them simply scream. Yes there is corruption. And when was she not? And in which country is it not?
                  1. +3
                    6 March 2013 16: 55
                    Quote: alexneg
                    Well, how much dirt the trolls poured on Russia and now they continue to pour

                    He is also a troll in Africa. It’s on their conscience. I just think, Sasha. Here are the problems listed, these are the questions. Someone can answer.
                    1. +1
                      6 March 2013 21: 18
                      I answered similar questions on a nearby branch. Not so simple. It was impossible to touch this listed rot until Russia gained strength and removed all levers of influence on it. This is a complicated Big World Game and so far Putin has won on all fronts and he has not left a single chance for the West to turn something in the opposite direction. All the mousetrap slammed shut. And now the time has come both in cleansing the internal elite and in retribution of the deserved to all traitors. Heard the phrase Putin forgives nothing to anyone, including the West.
      2. -7
        6 March 2013 07: 44
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And what short name Obama do not write?

        And that doesn’t sound bad -Oh! laughing
        hi
        Not an article, but complete nonsense.
        Shev mustache is gone !!!
        I read the first two paragraphs, read to the statement of ONALITEG V.L. Avagyan and left it. When Thatcher said that in Russia 30ml people are needed for the pipe, this is the enemy, and when, Avagyan, do you agree? Do we have that taiga in it has a clearing of 10 versts and two pipes pass through it, one with oil, the other with gas? Oil and gas in the Russian economy, it is 000% of GDP! Emigrants work only where the Russians do not want to work !!!!
        They are at a construction site, in janitors.
        By the way, at a construction site, these emigrants receive an average of 30. It’s just that Russian will not go there, because it’s cold and hard. This is to the so-called average salaries and general reductions.
        I’m scared not only from the article, but from some panic comments. Are you on the street?
        1. +15
          6 March 2013 08: 24
          Thatcher said unpleasant things, but she was far from a fool ... (in my opinion about 15 million she said) in the sense of servicing the pipe and the railway for the export of resources, this would be enough for the population. And they don’t need more from us.
          And the Russians work hard at the construction site and the janitors. And where "hungry and hard" go, if there is work! And she, work, in the present conditions is not always there. We go out on the street all the time. We know what we are talking about. And you???
          1. Earthman
            +3
            6 March 2013 08: 54
            Quote: Ermak
            Thatcher said unpleasant things, but she was far from a fool ... (in my opinion about 15 million she said) in the sense of servicing the pipe and railway for the export of resources, this would be enough for the population.

            But she did not arrange genocide for all Russians ?! !!!
            I think you yourself guess who is to blame
            1. 0
              6 March 2013 09: 02
              But she did not arrange genocide for all Russians ?! !!!
              I think you yourself guess who is to blame

              Where is the genocide? Yes, and all Russians? I am Russian, I am not genocide. And you?
              1. Earthman
                0
                6 March 2013 09: 17
                Quote: Irkutsk
                Where is the genocide? Yes, and all the Russians? I am Russian, I am not genocide. And you?

                Well, they won’t genocide you, then why shout that now, they’ll make us 15 million, as Margaret said or something like that. This is Yermak wrote.
                1. -3
                  6 March 2013 09: 28
                  Yes, let Ermak write what he wants. I don’t see unemployment in my region, there are Gaster, streets are sweeping, they are building something, vegetables are being grown. Already a plumber saw one in his area. And the locals are all busy, except for the drones, who are looking for a high-paying vacation instead of work
                2. +2
                  6 March 2013 10: 37
                  And where did I write that the aunt "Thatcher staged genocide for all Russians" ??? She expressed her opinion, her wish. They were there, would be happy with this state of affairs. It is a fact.
                  1. -1
                    6 March 2013 11: 09
                    I didn’t answer you, but Earthman, but I answered you about the lack of work in the cities, fields and villages of the endless Motherland, you just need not to sit and wait, find no problem.
              2. +11
                6 March 2013 09: 36
                Quote: Irkutsk
                Where is the genocide? Yes, and all the Russians? I am Russian, I am not genocide. And you

                You’re probably sitting in the office as a fellow countryman, you don’t see. Take a trip to Harik, Bargadai, Kuitun, look, maybe he will brighten up.
                1. -4
                  6 March 2013 10: 08
                  For thirty years of work, he has earned the privilege of sitting in the office, there is such a thing as career growth. By the nature of his work, he traveled all over the region and not only it, of the settlements you listed, only Bargaday has never been (I have no idea what it is and where). Everything that happened in the region was a bad thing in the ever-memorable 90s. Unlike you, I have the opportunity to compare the situation of those years with today's situation. I assure you - there is no devastation, there are traces of the former devastation. I advise you to visit there yourself before sending me to the "field".
                  1. +1
                    6 March 2013 11: 16
                    Quote: Irkutsk
                    I assure you - there is no devastation, there are traces of the former devastation. I advise you to visit there yourself before sending me to the "field".

                    I dare to assure you that I have a lot of friends and they write regularly, we exchange news and they are by no means biased. And they do not sit in the office in Irkutsk, but who work at Sayanskkhimplast, who are in Zima, who are Kuytun, are from Zalary I have only one acquaintance, so I have information about the situation in my former place of residence. hi
                    1. 0
                      6 March 2013 11: 45
                      Well, you already began to reproach me with office. I assure you, I think I deserved to sit in the office, I started with a locksmith, I got an institute in absentia, there was no blat, I was nominated to the leaders even before I got the tower.
                      About your friends: I don’t think that they live worse than in the nineties, it’s just that it’s not accepted among Russians to boast, but to complain forever. I can give many examples of the restoration of production, the opening of new ones. Although go to the sites of the Irkutsk region yourself. In general, we have a market, unprofitable production itself dies. Here you will dampen funds in obviously loss-making business? And why do you think the state or businessman should do this? It seems we are not starving, we don’t walk naked, it means that it was closed and it was not necessary.
                      1. +6
                        6 March 2013 12: 46
                        Quote: Irkutsk
                        You already began to reproach me with office

                        In no way, Eugene. Sorry if I offended. We are about the same age as I understand. But we are on the opposite sides of the barricades, so far virtual. But I absolutely do not want the virtual to become real. If Putin does not try to change system, such an outcome is very likely. And I’ll go to the barricades if this happens ........ hi
                      2. +1
                        6 March 2013 16: 06
                        And you do not see what he is trying to do? That's not how much I am not his fan, I just look soberly around. If someone gets cooler, I'll be glad. Stop blaming the king for everything, his retinue makes him. Now the retinue is changing. Let's see what's next.
                      3. +1
                        6 March 2013 17: 19
                        Quote: Irkutsk
                        Stop blaming the king for everything, his retinue makes him. Now the retinue is changing. Let's see what's next.

                        He went too far and far, he played too much.
                        You can look further, but there will be no changes.
                        His chances of success are 1: 100 no more.
                      4. +1
                        6 March 2013 16: 49
                        We are about the same age as I understand. But we are on opposite sides of the barricades,

                        It’s just that my opinion is not being formed on the Internet, I have such a luxury as my own opinion and worldview.
                      5. 0
                        6 March 2013 19: 19
                        Quote: Irkutsk
                        It's just that my opinion is not being formed on the Internet

                        And mine too.
                        Quote: Irkutsk
                        I have such a luxury as my own opinion and worldview.

                        I respect someone else’s, even if it’s not true. hi
                      6. +1
                        6 March 2013 17: 15
                        Quote: baltika-18
                        . And I’ll go to the barricades if this happens ..

                        I will participate....
              3. Ruslan80
                +1
                6 March 2013 11: 14
                And you wait when they start to kick you? When will freedom of action be forbidden to you in your own country because it contradicts the laws of visitors? Do not live one day, think about your children at least !!!
        2. Earthman
          +1
          6 March 2013 08: 52
          Quote: ATATA
          And that doesn’t sound bad -Oh!

          I agree with you
          Cut the truth uterus
        3. Earthman
          -4
          6 March 2013 09: 00
          Quote: ATATA
          Not an article, but complete nonsense.

          Fully agree
          Quote: ATATA
          Do we have that taiga in it has a clearing of 10 versts and two pipes pass through it, one with oil, the other with gas? Oil and gas in the Russian economy, it is 000% of GDP!

          And that is so.
          Quote: ATATA
          Emigrants work only where the Russians do not want to work !!!!
          They are at a construction site, in janitors.
          By the way, at a construction site, these emigrants receive an average of 30. It’s just that Russian will not go there, because it’s cold and hard. This is to the so-called average salaries and general cuts.
          I’m scared not only from the article, but from some panic comments. Are you on the street?

          Tell the truth, uterus.
          1. -4
            6 March 2013 09: 06
            Quote: Earthman
            Tell the truth, uterus.

            Thanks for the support. drinks
            And then the time is 9:00 Moscow time, and the people are minus the computer, tries to work. Tight mother in Russia in no hurry to live at work, the horses are dying from work! We’d better here be shedding tears on Claudia. I haven’t formed a corns on my fingers from the clave. I ask all the prowlers?
            1. Earthman
              -4
              6 March 2013 09: 22
              Quote: ATATA
              Thanks for the support.

              Here. I'm free today. It is always pleasant for me to communicate with acquaintances with real affairs firsthand, like you, and therefore I support. Yes, adherents of various parties and ideologies (Sect) and who call themselves so - "false patriots" will bypass you. A true patriot will never say that he is a patriot, because it is not necessary to say every day that you love MOTHER, she and the child already know this by default.
              1. +6
                6 March 2013 09: 47
                Quote: Earthman
                mostly supporters of various parties and ideologies (Sects)

                I put you a minus. I think they understood why.
            2. -4
              6 March 2013 09: 35
              And then the time is 9: 00 by MSC, and people are minus the computer, try to work.

              He put a plus, but the truth is these pumebekals got it, they probably are sitting in an ambush, waiting for news to add dirt. Well, nothing, our work will end and catch up.
              1. 0
                6 March 2013 19: 12
                Quote: Irkutsk
                He put a plus, but the truth is these pumebekals got it, they probably are sitting in an ambush, waiting for news to add dirt. Well, nothing, our work will end and catch up.
                And yours is pume.h.m. glasses, or what?
            3. +5
              6 March 2013 09: 37
              Quote: ATATA
              And then the time is 9: 00 by MSC, and people are minus the computer, try to work.

              Do you think that all parasites are there? And in that case, what have you forgotten during working hours? request
              1. -2
                6 March 2013 09: 44
                I started a construction site. I'm sitting in the foreman of a computer. I know the construction, like my fingers. In the morning I ran through the floors. Everything works like a clock. I plan to work and give assignments from the evening the next day. And at the end of the month for the next month.
                I drive out parasites and alcoholics from a construction site with kicks, regardless of nationality.
                My answer suits you?
                1. +4
                  6 March 2013 09: 55
                  Quote: ATATA
                  I started a construction site.

                  Well then everything is clear with you! wassat His shirt, as they say, is closer to the body!
                  1. -6
                    6 March 2013 10: 02
                    Quote: nycsson
                    Well then everything is clear with you! His shirt, as they say, is closer to the body!

                    Write the address. I’ll send you a shirt if I’m not able to earn a shirt myself.
                    1. +7
                      6 March 2013 10: 30
                      Quote: ATATA
                      Write the address.

                      I have shirts and more! Thanks, of course!
                      Quote: ATATA
                      if he is not able to earn a shirt.

                      I normally earn money, but probably much less than you on migrant workers .....
                      1. -1
                        6 March 2013 10: 38
                        Quote: nycsson
                        but probably much less than you on migrant workers ...

                        I do not earn money on migrant workers, I work with them, I work with Russians, but for some reason 10% of them are at the construction site.
                      2. +3
                        6 March 2013 10: 57
                        And why is their 10% in your opinion ??? Because, lazy, drunkards, etc. (it happens and I don’t argue) is there something else to eat? (And on the contrary, I have no more than 10% Gaster by the way ...)
                      3. +4
                        6 March 2013 11: 02
                        Quote: ATATA
                        I work with them, I work with Russians too, but for some reason they are at a construction site among workers 10%.

                        But in Krasnodar we have a different picture, exactly the opposite. At least visually. Probably depends on the region ......
                2. +5
                  6 March 2013 10: 52
                  And imagine, dear, you are not alone on this resource working at a construction site. There are also participants who lead people and know everything "in the field" and are not afraid to get their hands dirty, if necessary. And at the same time they are happy to read the site. As well as you though. And with the pluses or minuses you express your opinion - do not suspect people of parasitism) do not) .. Respect the opinions of others.
              2. 0
                6 March 2013 09: 56
                And we generally have 5 hours with the main altar difference, I redid everything in the morning, now I visit a respected resource between the finishing touches
            4. +7
              6 March 2013 09: 54
              Quote: ATATA
              And then the time is 9:00 Moscow time, and people are minus the computer,

              Quote: ATATA
              tries to work.

              Guys, this is not serious. Aleksey himself is stuck on the site.
              Quote: ATATA
              I haven’t formed a corns on my fingers from the clave. I ask all the prowlers?

              You can ask the same thing.
              These are not the arguments of men. Let's do it without a swara. I do not like the minus, I like the plus. That's all.
              1. -3
                6 March 2013 09: 59
                Quote: baltika-18
                Let's go without a swara

                Yes srach went to the fullest. The article is an offset throwing shit on a fan.
                Quote: baltika-18
                Guys, this is not serious. Aleksey himself is stuck on the site.

                Unsubscribed above.
                1. +9
                  6 March 2013 10: 37
                  Quote: ATATA
                  Yes srach went to the fullest. The article is an offset throwing shit on a fan.

                  And who started this "srach"?
                  Quote: ATATA
                  Not an article, but complete nonsense.
                  Shev mustache is gone !!!

                  I posted an article on the site, and not so as to arrange squabbles here, but in order for people like you to think again! The money that you earn on them is worth the consequences that may come! Personally, this topic really bothers me! hi
                  1. -3
                    6 March 2013 10: 41
                    Quote: nycsson
                    I posted an article on the site, and not so as to arrange squabbles here, but in order for people like you to think again!

                    Then the mustache is clear. laughing
                    1. +1
                      6 March 2013 11: 03
                      Quote: ATATA
                      Then the mustache is clear

                      I have a "mustache" with you for a long time ...........
                  2. +4
                    6 March 2013 11: 25
                    Quote: nycsson
                    I posted an article on the site

                    Alexey, with respect ......... good
                    This topic cannot be left alone.
                    1. +1
                      6 March 2013 11: 45
                      Quote: baltika-18
                      Alexey, with respect .........

                      Mutually Nikolay!
                      Quote: baltika-18
                      This topic cannot be left alone.

                      In no case! The consequences will be the most disastrous! crying
                      1. 0
                        6 March 2013 13: 01
                        Dear namesake, thanks for the article, the topic is important. hi Although I do not like your avatar negative
                      2. +3
                        6 March 2013 13: 08
                        Quote: lexat7
                        Although I do not like your avatar

                        What's wrong with my avatar? request This is your business .....
                      3. +1
                        6 March 2013 17: 26
                        Quote: baltika-18
                        Alexey, with respect .........
                        This topic cannot be left alone.

                        I am joining. Thank.
                        Quote: nycsson
                        The consequences will be the most disastrous!
                        If, as they call, some commentators “just live and arrange your life without interfering with anyone”, then certainly!
                        "If you are not involved in politics, then sooner or later politics will take over you."
        4. +8
          6 March 2013 09: 10
          ".... Do you go out on the street? ..."

          I'm on the street! I live in Moscow. Recently flew on a business trip to Almaty.
          The feeling is as if I didn’t leave Moscow, I mean the number of people of Asian appearance. Only in Kazakhstan are the Kazakhs the titular nation.
          1. Earthman
            +2
            6 March 2013 09: 27
            Quote: Goodmen
            I'm on the street! I live in Moscow. Recently flew on a business trip to Almaty.
            The feeling is as if I didn’t leave Moscow, I mean the number of people of Asian appearance. Only in Kazakhstan are the Kazakhs the titular nation.

            In Kazakhstan, they don’t look at the nation by default, of course, as different people everywhere. Know Kazakh and Russian perfectly and know your business, that will be excellent.
            Almaty is a metropolis like Moscow, big finances are spinning, construction projects are around, people are in a hurry somewhere, that is, everyone has their own affairs and go around like ants. From neighboring republics flow down as in Moscow
          2. DeerIvanovich
            0
            6 March 2013 18: 38
            well, there’s no need to exaggerate, in Moscow there are still more Russians, at least the picture is changing from district to region: somewhere, there are almost half Asians and somewhere Caucasians
        5. +17
          6 March 2013 09: 10
          Quote: ATATA
          I’m scared not only from the article, but from some panic comments. Are you on the street?

          I personally don’t have to go far for examples. A native village. Before the housing and communal services reform, the landfill was serviced by this organization, our village men worked, everywhere there were containers, they were taken out, they were disposed of. After the reform, the landfill was privatized, all of us were fired, the container was left only near the apartments houses, one in the yard, everyone else sells bags with a tag, but the most important thing is that they brought a crowd of Uzbeks whom no one had seen in our village. They were a whole shamman with wives and children. Last summer, I almost got cold when I saw how they were they cut their national clothes around the village. And yet, the wife works in a notary’s office, they came to her to draw up documents for real estate (?), can’t connect two words in Russian, she kicked them out, told them to come with an interpreter, didn’t show up anymore. And ours the men who worked before them in Moscow went to work.
          1. +7
            6 March 2013 10: 01
            Yes, it has long been clear that a labor shortage and an influx of migrants are artificially created, which by the way receive no less and often more than Russians .. Just as in the late 80s, a shortage of products and goods was created when all the warehouses were littered with them. They told me that they found whole dumps of discarded sausages, and the people were starving .. So now with a huge number of Russian unemployed, no one thinks about them, but they think about strangers, it’s really scary to become, when even in village schools more than half of the children are migrants, who are completely disrespectful of our ... I see only the continuation of treason to my own people by the leadership. What does the GDP seem to be unable to influence this trend .. its environment is too strong, it needs a purge in power like under Stalin!
            1. DeerIvanovich
              +2
              6 March 2013 18: 43
              conditions are being created for drawing the masses into large cities, where mortality is significantly many times greater than in small towns and villages. Well, respectively, for the place of extinct Russian Asians settle, a liberal program imposed from the outside ...
              in general, when demographics, only those nationalities should be supported whose recession, especially not immigrant from Asia and the Caucasus, is another matter, the Russians or the Chukchi from abroad returned to their homeland, so they need to be supported
              otherwise the spirit of the Russian people without its cementing foundation will not go far
        6. +11
          6 March 2013 09: 15
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          And what short name Obama do not write?

          Quote: Vanek
          Ob-ba

          Quote: ATATA
          Then really

          Quote: ATATA
          And that doesn’t sound bad -Oh!


          I look at you and just marvel !!! request Does this problem really cause you such associations ?! request As if there is nothing more to discuss on this topic ?! After all, in fact, it’s PROBLEM for our country !!! After all, someone purposefully "dilutes" the people inhabiting our country with migrants who do not know that there was such a state as the USSR! am
          1. -6
            6 March 2013 09: 29
            Quote: nycsson
            After all, someone purposefully "dilutes" the people inhabiting our country with migrants

            It has always been like that !!! Russia is an empire. For 1000 years we have been diluted, and we are getting stronger and stronger, because blood from the side flows in and the genes become stronger.
            By the way, a joke about genes.
            In the hospital, a Russian woman gives birth to a Negro. Below husband Petrov with a bunch of flowers toils.
            The head doctor tells the nurse:
            - Go tell Petrov that he was born a black man.
            The nurse:
            “How can I tell him this ?!”
            Doctor:
            - Well, tell me the mutation, genes ...
            A nurse on the way catches a nurse and says:
            “Go tell Petrov below that his child is a Negro.”
            Orderly:
            “How can I tell him this ?!”
            The nurse:
            - Say the mutation, genes ..
            A nurse goes to the lobby:
            - Who is Petrov here? Your child was born a black man.
            Petrov:
            - How so?
            Orderly:
            - The mutation must be washed, they called the gene.
            1. +6
              6 March 2013 09: 40
              Quote: ATATA
              It has always been like that !!! Russia is an empire. For 1000 years we have been diluted, and we are getting stronger and stronger, because blood from the side flows in and the genes become stronger.

              Such nonsense ........... !!! request negative Not according to 30 millions during 2-3 years!
              1. -6
                6 March 2013 09: 50
                Quote: nycsson
                Not according to 30 millions during 2-3 years!

                This is nonsense and nonsense!
                The polymer grinders began to boil.
                Quote: nycsson
                I’m on the street in Krasnodar! They go in droves, except for them nobody works at construction sites!

                Here is the answer! At a construction site, pay well, go there and earn loot!
                1. +4
                  6 March 2013 10: 00
                  Quote: ATATA
                  The polymer grinders began to boil.

                  Do not distort words! laughing Write in Russian! laughing
                  I understand your position, the master at the construction site or who you are ........
                  Quote: ATATA
                  Here is the answer! At a construction site, pay well, go there and earn loot!

                  What? For them, 15-20 thousand is certainly good! Nobody pays them like that in their homeland!
                  1. 0
                    6 March 2013 10: 07
                    Quote: nycsson
                    What? For them, 15-20 thousand is certainly good!

                    Once again I say at a construction site workers receive segony from 30, regardless of nationality.

                    Quote: nycsson
                    master at the construction site or who are you there ........

                    Read carefully, I wrote who I am on a construction site.
                    And how are you real Do you do business?
                    1. 0
                      6 March 2013 10: 40
                      Quote: ATATA
                      And what real business are you doing?

                      I am a government employee! Moreover, the Federal! hi
                      Quote: ATATA
                      Once again I say at a construction site workers receive segony from 30, regardless of nationality.

                      But I heard that it’s on paper, but on hands completely different amounts give out ..........
                      1. +1
                        6 March 2013 10: 47
                        Quote: nycsson
                        But I heard that it’s on paper, but on hands completely different amounts give out ..........

                        And here I am I KNOWthat the opposite is true. Five papers, and thirty-five in his arms.
                        Because we don’t want to pay taxes to our federal officials, as parasites everybody knows it.
                        Nothing personal Nixon, maybe you are an exceptionally useful federal civil servant. hi
                        Quote: nycsson
                        I am a government employee! Moreover, the Federal!

                        Well, do not be shy, tell me how exactly do you serve your homeland?
                        Quote: nycsson
                        master at the construction site or who are you there ........

                        This is how a civil servant knows his country, but for you, everyone who is not in your state court feeds, it’s
                        Quote: nycsson
                        or who are you there ........
                      2. +1
                        6 March 2013 11: 06
                        I’ll support it here, according to the papers, exactly like that. To pay 10 rubles to a person, 000 rubles to me. you need to give taxes, and I'm still on preferential terms!
                      3. 0
                        6 March 2013 11: 26
                        Quote: ATATA
                        But I KNOW that the opposite is true. Five papers, and thirty-five in his arms.

                        Economic theory does not understand you now! hi As I! You contradict the basic law of business: maximum profit with minimum cost! Yes
                        Quote: ATATA
                        Well, do not be shy, tell me how exactly do you serve your homeland?

                        No, let me be modest.
                        Quote: ATATA
                        This is how a civil servant knows his country, but for you, everyone who is not in your state court feeds, it’s

                        I'm not in the tub, believe me ........
                        Quote: ATATA
                        Nothing personal Nixon, maybe you are an exceptionally useful federal civil servant.

                        Well, I said it loudly ..... feel
                      4. 0
                        6 March 2013 15: 15
                        Do federal employees write with mistakes today? "heard" lol
                    2. +1
                      6 March 2013 11: 14
                      from 30 ... nuuu cool, there is no reason to suspect you of insincerity, but this is a bit much, especially for gastres. in our province everything is more modest ..
        7. +3
          6 March 2013 09: 35
          Quote: ATATA
          I’m scared not only from the article, but from some panic comments. Are you on the street?

          I’m on the street in Krasnodar! They go in droves, except for them nobody works at construction sites! All supermarkets have long passed on to them: cleaners, goods are laid out, carts are collected, etc.!
          In general, your post is surprising to me!
          Quote: ATATA
          Not an article, but complete nonsense.

          Bullshit is what you wrote! It cannot be called otherwise! fool fool fool
        8. Ruslan80
          +1
          6 March 2013 09: 45
          What do you know? Who is by nationality?
        9. Kaa
          +3
          6 March 2013 11: 28
          Quote: ATATA
          Do we have that taiga in it has a clearing of 10 versts and two pipes pass through it, one with oil, the other with gas? Oil and gas in the Russian economy, it is 000% of GDP! E

          Quote: nycsson
          As a result of the government policy in the coming decades, the number of low-skilled migrants attracted from abroad will amount to more than half of the economically active population of the country

          These conclusions are based on Thatcher’s dreams that there will be one industry in Russia - oil and gas, there will be no development of high-tech industries. Then low-skilled migrants will fit together. But in reality, the share of raw materials industries in GDP will steadily fall.
          "Over the next ten years, Russia will improve its performance and become the fifth economy in the world.... According to RIA Novosti, this was stated by former Finance Minister Alexei Kudrin during the Russia-2012 forum. According to the ex-minister, in the next decade Russia will become one of the largest suppliers of equipment, machinery and innovations to the world market. Kudrin noted that Russia has already entered the ranks of economies that are approaching developed ones, and the share of the oil and gas sector in the country's GDP will decline “without our forced participation.” He predicts a decline in the share of the oil and gas complex in the economy from 22-24 percent to 17 percent within ten years. "We will not always be the raw materials sector," said the ex-minister finance, noting that non-oil and gas industries will develop faster. Russia ranks sixth in the world in terms of GDP, taking into account purchasing power parity. The difference with the closest rival - Germany - is about 25 percent.
          http://gold.ru/articles/economics/aleksej-kudrin-rossija-zajmjot-5-e-mesto-po-vv

          p-cherez-10-let.html
          1. +1
            6 March 2013 11: 44
            Kaa,
            Ohhh ... how good to read sober people posts. It made it easier for me to breathe.
        10. Cheloveck
          +4
          6 March 2013 13: 40
          Quote: ATATA
          They are at a construction site, in janitors. By the way, at a construction site, these emigrants receive an average of 30. It’s just that Russian will not go there, because it’s cold and hard. This is to the so-called average salaries and general cuts.
          ...
          Are you on the street?

          It seems that you are in a spherical vacuum.
          I worked at a construction site, seen enough.
          Russian horseradish get settled there.
          Because the hair stands on end from the technological disruptions that thrive there. Russians, out of old habit, are beginning to be indignant, but the "migrants" don't care ... they can't live here.
          And it’s not the cold and difficulties.
          You would work in the forest at -30 for 10, how the locals work in our Urals, and then they broadcast about the cold.

          By the way, in the majority, Russians work not for 30, but for much less money.
          1. 0
            6 March 2013 13: 54
            Quote: Cheloveck
            You would work in the forest at -30 for 10, how the locals work in our Urals, and then they broadcast about the cold.

            By the way, in the majority, Russians work not for 30, but for much less money.

            You have Yöburg near me here. Come here workers at a construction site like hot cakes.
            And they pay from 30.
        11. mda
          mda
          +2
          6 March 2013 13: 41
          Quote: ATATA
          They are at a construction site, in janitors.

          if they paid normally, as expected, the Russians would go to work as janitors and builders, and when they pay so that there isn’t enough, who will work?
          1. -1
            6 March 2013 13: 56
            Quote: mda-a
            if they paid normally, as expected, the Russians would go to work as janitors and builders, and when they pay so that there isn’t enough, who will work?

            Once again I ask 30 is not enough?
            1. mda
              mda
              -1
              6 March 2013 17: 45
              Quote: ATATA
              Once again I ask 30 is not enough?

              30- not everywhere.
            2. +2
              6 March 2013 18: 00
              Quote: ATATA
              Once again I ask 30 is not enough?

              And this is which side to look at.
              This is not enough for me in the Moscow Region, because both the Moscow Region prices and the cost of living are not like in Central Asia and I have my family here, but she also needs to be given time and attention.
              For migrant workers it is a lot of money. With such income, he can support two to three wives in his homeland. And he doesn’t need a family every evening. Therefore, it can work on 12-16 hours and for the money.
              After working here for three to four years, a guest worker can open a shop, a teahouse, tire fitting or other small business in his homeland.
              And a Russian can only earn three "Gs" for this money - Hump, Hernia, and Hemorrhoids. This salary for a Russian is only for food and rent with the prospect of losing health and not earning anything for old age
              And you, as the site manager who knows the construction site "from and to," cannot but know that your position is a thief. Not one foreman built a house for himself from stolen materials.
              And that everything that your gaster builds will not stand idle for a long time. Since the combination of the Tajik quality of work and Russian theft on a set of materials lead to all the known results - MARRIAGE
          2. 0
            6 March 2013 16: 20
            And where did you get the idea that a janitor and a handyman at a construction site need to pay a lot? First, you need to spend some energy on education, training, and then demand a decent payment.
    2. -2
      6 March 2013 07: 40
      Quote: Fox
      firmly, clearly, truthfully.

      ... crafty ...!
      "truthful" only in the aspect in which it is beneficial for the "anti-Putin". I have just looked selectively through the publications of Comrade Vazgen and saw that this man in his speeches would have achieved a lot on the "Sugar Square", among the white deer. Much of what he says has the right to be, but everything is presented with the thickening of precisely those colors that Nemtsov, Kasparov, and Tyutyukin are splashing on the sides ... With all that, Comrade Vazgen completely forgets that the south of Russia ( especially the Black Sea coast) is firmly inhabited by its brothers by nationality and they do not intend in any way to let Russians (about whom Vazgen cares so much) into this enclave. Now we can already say that the Black Sea resort area is an Armenian patrimony.
      1. +6
        6 March 2013 09: 00
        I do not agree. I studied in Rostov-on-Don (now I live here), in our hostel was full of Russian guys from the coast. Everyone I knew personally returned to school after graduation. None of them said a word about their oppression. He visited them in Novorossiysk, Gelendzhik, Divnomorsk, all wonderful Armenians live with their neighbors.
      2. +13
        6 March 2013 09: 21
        Quote: esaul
        ... crafty ...!
        "truthful" only in the aspect in which it is beneficial for the "anti-Putin".

        Valera, I look for you all who criticize Putin and his policies are all "beloletochniki". Be cunning, however. You need to support the party's policy, but the topic is delicate, and "beloletochniki" is an iron argument. . Me that "belolentochniki", that "pro-Putin" one crap.
        1. +2
          6 March 2013 11: 39
          ATATA,
          I am now reading the book "General Economic Theory" which was written by professor, Doctor of Economics V.Z. Balikoev. I will quote from the book especially for you, p. 107:
          “A businessman is a business person, always aimed at maximizing profits or striving to get the greatest benefit. There is no business without profit. Profit - a measure of the effectiveness and success of a business, its freedom of conscience, freedom of choice and entrepreneurship. “Capital is afraid of lack of profit or too little profit, as nature is afraid of emptiness. But once sufficient profit is available, capital becomes bold. Provide 10%, and the capital agrees to any use, with 20% it becomes lively, with 50% it is positively ready to break its head, with 100% it violates all human laws, with 300% there is no crime that it would not risk, at least in fear of the gallows ”(Quotation from“ Capital ”, by the way - this is the businessman’s handbook)” - something similar happens in our construction and not only there ........
      3. +4
        6 March 2013 09: 25
        Quote: esaul
        ... crafty ...!

        Quote: esaul
        Much of what he says has a right to be, but everything is presented with a thickening of precisely those colors, which are sprayed on the sides of the Germans, Kasparov, and Tyutyukin ...

        Instead of trumping these "comrades", you wrote something worthwhile, like a refutation of the laws of economics that he cites! But you are not capable of this, since there are simply no such refutations, so you are "mixing" a worthy person with this rabble! am
        Quote: esaul
        For all that, Comrade Vazgen completely forgets that the south of Russia (especially the Black Sea coast) is firmly settled by his brothers by nationality and they do not intend to go there in any way to the Russians (whom Vazgen cares about). Now we can already say that the Black Sea resort area is an Armenian patrimony.

        What does it mean that Russians are not allowed to go south ??? fool I live here and go wherever I want! Yes, they make money on Russian, because they have the whole business! Starting from dining rooms, ending with stalls with all the rattles !!! laughing On whom will they make money if there are no Russians? Although the problem really exists, and this article is only an addition to this problem, there is little for us to settle in the country of the Caucasian peoples, so we still need 20-30 lyam from Central Asia !!! am
  3. +14
    6 March 2013 07: 17
    “For the Russian economy to develop normally, it needs to attract migrants,” experts said at a meeting of heads of expert groups to develop the Strategy 2020 report. The whole problem with us is that our businessmen do not want to pay a normal salary to our citizens, that is, they fill their pockets with superprofits. It’s not time for the middle class to shake the authorities. And then it will turn out like in Sochi I scolded the organizer of the rack, because he collected everything that he had stolen with overwork from resentment, and fled to Germany, and there you look and ask for political asylum in England lol Ask how do I know about excess profits? I will answer. Relatives live in one of the urban settlements, and work in the Executive Committee. The essence of this (from the words) was allocated 6000000 rubles for paving roads in the village. So this Head hired Gaster with GASPETS (so as not to pay the local housing and communal services, which in his opinion had asked a lot,) and put asphalt 2 cm thick, and so that he would serve for a long time, hung signs prohibiting the movement of gr. to transport. So the asphalt stood for six months. Well, they sawed the money. My opinion is that this middle class, like the Trojan horse, in our country, which cares about its EXTRA PROFIT, and almost immediately beyond the hill. It's time to stop this vicious practice.
    1. Baboon
      +3
      6 March 2013 08: 36
      And my friend works for me in a large research institute, there the director repairs 0.5 cm of new asphalt every spring; accordingly, every winter he cracks.
      1. +3
        6 March 2013 08: 51
        Q.E.D. And so from year to year. Here in one village there is a bridge, capital, though the top cover is 10 ki from a board and a timber. The local population calls it gold, millions are thrown out several times a year.
      2. +2
        6 March 2013 10: 46
        Quote: Babon
        And my friend works for me in a large research institute, there the director repairs 0.5 cm of new asphalt every spring; accordingly, every winter he cracks.

        Asphalt is also an interesting topic. In October last year, we started laying asphalt on the road in our village for 3 km, poking around before frosts. People were in shock, why not in the summer? The father-in-law clarified the situation, the roadman with the experience. Other prices, for the allocated amount instead of 5 km we made 3 km, plus the guest workers worked. Question is how much did the leaders of this project and the head of our administration receive? Long live the system created by Vladimir Vladimirich! Long live the power vertical!
        1. 0
          6 March 2013 11: 00
          Quote: baltika-18
          Last October, in our village, they started laying asphalt on the road for 3 km, tinkering around before the frost. The people were in shock, why not in the summer?

          I, as a builder with experience, will explain it to you. It’s just that in our country some government officials on a federal scale (there is one who will not let us lie) begin to allocate the planned money for construction and repair, only at the end of the year, and they wipe our ass on chairs all year. It is urgent to use the funds at the end of the year, otherwise the funds will be cut back next year. And so every year !! They warm their asses all year, and then they arrange a rush. You can believe the state order, this is torture for the builder, and the civil servants themselves are snatching without measure.
          1. +3
            6 March 2013 11: 42
            Quote: ATATA
            Believe me, the state order is torture for the builder,

            I have a small editing office, I worked with state-owned contractors. Nowhere without bribes. But this is a system created in the zero years, and moreover, the guesthouses fit perfectly into this system. This is an opportunity for a private trader to compensate for the money spent on kickbacks. It must be broken together with the guests. I NEED TO LEAVE FROM THE COUNTRY. I am a private trader too, I don’t have any gastas, mine work. But I’m sure those who use gastronomy work are only concerned with profit and nothing more. Tomorrow they don’t think about money, money today and the more, the more better. This is a dead end, Alex.
            1. +3
              6 March 2013 11: 57
              Quote: baltika-18
              This is a way to a dead end, Alex.

              The way to a dead end is corruption of our officials. That's where national treason is, that's where you have to ring the bells !!!!!
              GASTA in comparison with our civil servants, just angels in terms of harm to the country.
              1. +1
                6 March 2013 12: 04
                Quote: ATATA
                That's where national treason is, that's where you have to ring the bells !!!!!

                And you in business are a lot different from them? And in my opinion you have one goal! This is money! They take kickbacks, and you tax evasion! Part of this amount on kickbacks! wassat
                1. +2
                  6 March 2013 12: 10
                  Quote: nycsson
                  And you in business are a lot different from them?

                  We differ as the sky from the earth. We really work, and officials only steal. And the rules by which the business works are not written by businessmen, but by civil servants.
                  1. +1
                    7 March 2013 03: 59
                    I personally know one businessman (Unites one hobby). The bottom line is this, he still pays his salary in an envelope, this time, when asked to increase his salary to staff, he answers, if they don’t want to work for this money, I’ll hire Uzbeks they will work for less. There are no irreplaceable ones. In general, not hiding fattenby golly. In general, we have the whole business, it acts just like that WILD and this fact does not require proof. For some reason, investing money over a hill in real estate. I wonder if something will change here? I got the impression that this horse whose business they call, and is in our country FIFTH colony, or am I wrong?
              2. +2
                6 March 2013 12: 12
                Quote: ATATA
                The way to a dead end is corruption of our officials. That's where national treason is, that's where you have to ring the bells !!!!!
                GASTA in comparison with our civil servants, just angels in terms of harm to the country.

                Gasti, Aleksei is the end of the country. They form their enclaves. If they pass for a critical mass, a Cuban. My wife lives in Solntsevo’s sister in Moscow, her daughter graduated from school last year, half of the Russians are in class. This is an alarming symptom.
                1. +2
                  6 March 2013 12: 16
                  Quote: baltika-18
                  If they pass for a critical mass, kabzdets.

                  So officials create it. They need to be transplanted 90% and the country will straighten its shoulders. Lost fear and conscience imagine themselves to be the elite of the nation, a new class. At a construction site, I came across a lot of them.
                  Most of the dirt go to riches, and they themselves are a stupid and lazy herd that can only steal and mend obstacles.
                  Nothing, wait a dad comes, show where the crayfish usually winter.
                  1. dmb
                    +2
                    6 March 2013 14: 11
                    Sorry for the intervention. And you can find out my father’s surname, and at the same time the position with which he will come. It would be nice to clarify, he will personally show the place of wintering, or entrust this business to a pack of comrades. I would also like to know if this flock will be from among the public men or will be in the state service. In the latter case, whatever one may say, they will be officials. You can certainly shoot 95%, but the new ones, having come in their place, will start from the same, if of course the Old Man leaves their property to the large owners. I was also pleased that philosophical thought does not stand still. Neither Marx nor his opponents thought of separating officials into a separate class. But in creating migration exclusively by officials, I have big doubts. In state Tajiks are still not working in institutions, and the rest is with the private trader, who is primarily interested in paying less and forcing them to work more without any Labor Codes there.
                    1. 0
                      6 March 2013 14: 22
                      Quote: dmb
                      In state Tajik institutions still do not work

                      This makes me happy.

                      Quote: dmb
                      But in creating migration exclusively by officials, I have big doubts.

                      What are your doubts?

                      Quote: dmb
                      And you can find out my father’s surname, and at the same time the position with which he will come. It would be nice to clarify, he will personally show the place of wintering, or entrust this business to a pack of comrades. I would also like to know if this flock will be from among the public men or will be in the state service.

                      Find out in due time. Wait for now.
                  2. +4
                    6 March 2013 18: 50
                    Quote: ATATA
                    So officials create it. They need to be transplanted 90% and the country will straighten its shoulders. Lost fear and conscience imagine themselves to be the elite of the nation, a new class. At a construction site, I came across a lot of them.

                    I agree. despite the fact that all thieves are usually the most shouting about the dominance of Gaster.
                    Take the situation with the wipers (already tired of writing about it) as an example. Explain on the fingers
                    The janitor's salary is calculated according to the norms and tariff-qualification guides - this corresponds approximately to the cleaning of territories of 1-2 houses with yards, the salary is in the region of 15 thousand, i.e. DO NOT STRESS (cleaning 2 times a day: morning and evening), you can, in principle, tolerably live. Taking 2-3 standards - you can live happily ever after.
                    Money transfers the municipal budget, housing department (now almost all 3 zeros) they are simply stolen by hiring Tajiks, while "dead souls" or relatives of the management of the housing department are listed as janitors.
                    In Moscow, the janitor receives 50 thousand at least and you will not see a single Slavic person, because of these 50, he really gets 20-30.
                    And so everywhere! The same minibuses - in order to successfully compete in this market, and to make a profit it is necessary to minimize expenses, and the largest ones are the wage fund and insurance contributions.
                    If you hire a local one, then the entrepreneur needs
                    1. Pay an official salary not lower than the level established by law.
                    2. Pay taxes and mandatory contributions to the FIU, Social Security, Medstrakh. By the way, mandatory payments are about 50% of the wage fund, a very impressive amount.
                    3. Get medical insurance.
                    4. Comply with labor laws and be liable in case of violation by the employer.
                    5. As a special case to paragraph 4 - to observe the regime of work and rest, including no one canceled the night allowance of 10 percent. and payment for processing.
                    Therefore, if there is an OPPORTUNITY to hire a migrant without observing all these conditions, thereby minimizing costs and receiving a large final profit, SO WILL. Moreover, part of this profit goes to feed numerous regulatory and law enforcement agencies, which naturally also become interested in its stable growth.
                    How to deal with this, with economic measures only the change of the economic model from liberal capitalism to state capitalism at least (in this plane they differ - "free competition in the labor market" - liberalism, the policy of protectionism and regulation of this market - state capitalism), Well, politically, apart from repression and nothing comes to mind of a new oprichnina, who wants humanism and tolerance please, a suitcase, a railway station, a gayrop ..
                  3. +1
                    7 March 2013 04: 10
                    Quote: ATATA
                    Most of the dirt go to riches, and they themselves are a dumb and lazy herd, which only able to steal and repair obstacles.

                    I liked this quote from you very much. I thought it was only in our organization.
          2. +2
            6 March 2013 18: 16
            Quote: ATATA
            I, as a builder with experience, will explain to you

            And I, as a driver with experience, will explain to you. Last summer, they rolled all over (almost) Moscow into new asphalt. For such a volume of work, migrant workers were of course needed. Worked quickly. However, the new asphalt in many places did not even live until spring. A record was set - the latest asphalt laid in normal, dry weather did not last a year. So much for the bow of official businessmen and guest workers.
            Political capital has been acquired, (all federal TV channels have reported that the new mayor was successful) financial capital has been spent, a simple hard worker-Russian Vanya has not earned anything, since it is more convenient for a businessman and an official to work with Gaster.
            1. +1
              6 March 2013 19: 04
              Quote: Normal
              However, the new asphalt in many places did not even live until spring.

              Asphalt was stolen not by migrant workers, but by officials.
              1. +1
                6 March 2013 19: 41
                Quote: ATATA
                Asphalt stolen

                Yes, no one stole it, there it lies in pieces and holes. Money was stolen. But in order to steal them "effectively", that is, a lot and quickly, and guest workers are needed as a necessary link in the chain.
                Officials allocate funds.
                -Businessmen use the funds, saw, roll away officials. On the rest they put asphalt without the necessary additives (they are imported and expensive)
                - They put the hands of Gaster (saving on a lot of payments, described by other commentators) who also understand everything and therefore do not particularly bother with quality. However, they don’t bother with quality when, because they don’t know what it is and they don’t live here.
                - Officials accept the job. The circle is closed.
                Result on the face; in the summer it will be necessary to lay asphalt again. Again there will be money and kickbacks.
                1. +2
                  6 March 2013 22: 12
                  Normal,

                  Most contracts under the law on public procurement are concluded at the end of auctions, the winners of which are companies, the lowest bidders. Therefore, foreigners who are ready to make roads more expensive but not quality cut off by bureaucrats. And if we take into account that those interested in their "firms" are sitting in the structure of the state order for road construction, then, accordingly, the desired chain appears according to the principle of cheap and cheerful, and a year later they master the repair of what they have added ... Skolkovo highway according to this scheme should already be clean gold. If there is an official who wants to make good roads, he will not be allowed to. Because bad roads are profitable for both officials and contractors. The larger the volume of work, the more funds are allocated for them, spending of which the state does not control (we have a "free market" according to the recipes of Chicago boys, this is actually state capitalism in the states) in Russia no single charging: not determined how much one asphalt or bitumen machine should cost. Prices are taken from the ceiling. And it’s simply not accepted to check the quality of roads. It can be written in the estimate that 100 gravel machines, five bitumen machines and 25 asphalt machines were used to repair the site. But in reality there were only four asphalt machines and that’s all. The rest of the money went to cottages, cottages, fur coats for secretaries and everything else. Kickbacks in road construction are usually more than 10%, contractors still need to share with the “roof” and leave something to themselves. But in order for something to remain, we need cheap labor .. we don’t need tasty, we need a lot.
                  But according to the decree of the city government in force in the capital, roads need to be overhauled every 8-12 years. According to the mind, it is not necessary to check anything; potholes appeared in a year or two — the entire chain was brought to trial as under Stalin for wrecking. By the way, with him, roads and houses were built with high quality ...
                  1. +1
                    6 March 2013 22: 26
                    Quote: Ascetic
                    consists of auctions, the winners of which

                    Schemes may be different. Recently in the media there was an infa about how several firms acting by conspiracy received a contract at a clearly inflated execution price.
                    1. +2
                      7 March 2013 00: 37
                      Normal,

                      The Russian government has introduced to the State Duma draft amendments to existing legislation on concluding long-term life-cycle contracts for the construction and maintenance of roads. After winning the tenders, the financial contractor will be responsible not only for the high-quality construction of roads and other transport infrastructure facilities, but also for their subsequent safety.
                      The system of life cycle contracts is widely distributed in European countries and has shown its effectiveness in terms of the quality of facilities under construction.
                      However, not all experts agree that such an innovation will save motorists from the problem of poor roads. In particular, some of them express their concern about the financial side of the issue. In Europe, the state does not finance such projects, and the responsible company uses either borrowed funds or its own reserves. This aspect, in their opinion, still needs to be thought out. St. Petersburg will be the first city to use the program of long-term contracts for the construction of roads.
                      link

                      That’s basically what I’ve talked about, only here’s the responsibility and the scheme for concluding contracts and, again, the control mechanism .. question.
                      1. +1
                        7 March 2013 09: 23
                        Quote: Ascetic
                        But here is the responsibility and the scheme for concluding contracts and, again, the control mechanism ... question.
                        Exactly! In the absence of responsibility and the presence of the desire to grab and dump, no progressive schemes, rules and laws will give the promised effect. In any case, to the extent that would be satisfactory
          3. +1
            7 March 2013 03: 37
            You know, I heard exactly the same thing. True, the conversation was not about roads, but about another Prizedentsky decree. The most interesting thing is that some elements of local government have such thoughts (in a narrow circle), the meaning is why they are not afraid of cutting, "God" is far away.
    2. +2
      6 March 2013 09: 41
      Quote: Sirocco
      The whole problem with us is that our businessmen do not want to pay a normal salary to our citizens, that is, they fill their pockets with superprofits.

      Of course it is! That's where the dog is buried! am
  4. Trance
    +5
    6 March 2013 07: 20
    Here guys, this is a real betrayal. If they allow such soups in the Russian Orthodox Church, then Russian culture will bend faster than fast.



    I'm really interested in who will be the first to announce the "X" hour in Russia, are we or not?
    1. +4
      6 March 2013 07: 58
      This is not treason. He just has a sense of humor, he jokes on a foreigner and on our realities. He warns what will happen if we behave as we conduct now. Watch his interview completely without cuts and drawn phrases.
    2. consul
      +2
      6 March 2013 10: 25
      look at the tone of the interview, not the words, he says bitterly
    3. shpuntik
      +3
      6 March 2013 20: 46
      And what exactly is treason? The fact that he cuts the truth, does not calm? He points out the real reason: abortion. Abortions are promoted by various feminists, homosexuals, lesbians - they are at the forefront of the secular state. We "freed" women, and now they look down on men from the heights of higher education. Muslims on the contrary: they keep their women in check, not to say that they do not love them, they just point out to them their place, the place where the birth of children is primary, and education and career are secondary, or more. Also in China ... Children are the most valuable capital, healthy working hands. Only then there are "Glanas", flights to Mars and the like.
  5. Lavrik
    +5
    6 March 2013 07: 20
    In terms of labor productivity, we are 2-3 times behind the advanced countries. And the task now is before us to reach their level. This means reducing the number of employees by 2-3 times. So do we need migrants?
  6. +2
    6 March 2013 07: 24
    Yeah, it's time to take machines and solve migration policy and deal with the owners of enterprises, otherwise the rulers of our poher all
    1. PrikVO 84-86
      +4
      6 March 2013 14: 06
      "Business owners"
      Do you really think that these small fry decide something. A powerful ramified system has been built to populate our country with foreigners. Under the guise of work forceunder the guise of compatriots. Transport routes have been established: railway, air, road transport. There are more and more new routes and flights to the cities of Russia from Wed. Asia and the Caucasus. For example: the train St. Petersburg - Tashkent. Recently appeared. Money Transfer Channels. Moreover, the tariffs in bl. Abroad, lower tariffs in Russia. FMS departments are furiously stamping documents legalizing the status of migrants on our land. Mosques are being built everywhere. Schools, kindergartens, clinics, hospitals and maternity hospitals are forced to satisfy the requirements of migrants in the first place. All this is done under the direct supervision of the current government. Personally, Putin, Medvedev, Romodanovsky lead this process.
      And talking about unscrupulous business executives only takes the people’s anger away from the real culprits and accomplices of the occupation of our country by foreigners.
  7. Horde
    +16
    6 March 2013 07: 31
    I suppose that this is directly or indirectly caused by the circles of world Satanism, which sharply hate the Russian people and dream of destroying them with any hands that they just turn up.


    IT IS MOST IMPORTANT! There are people in the government who HATE THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE. We know who they are. At ALL HIGH places in the media, the police, the army, not to mention business everywhere they are.
    1. bask
      +10
      6 March 2013 07: 52
      Quote: Horde
      THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT!

      Greetings to the Horde. Here ATAKA writes not to droop. We have a salary of 30 thousand rubles in Stalingrad. This is a lot. And only Russie work as janitors. And for 30 they go to construction sites and factories.
      I WRITE PUPEY ,,,. AS IF WITH ,,, MARSA ,,
      ATTACK ARE YOU NOT A MARSIAN?
      1. grizzlir
        +8
        6 March 2013 08: 05
        Quote: bask
        ATTACK YOU ARE NOT A MARSIAN

        He is not from Mars. But he probably believes that everyone here lives on Mars, or idiots who do not know the true state of things in Russia.
        1. 0
          6 March 2013 08: 26
          Quote: grizzlir
          He is not from Mars. But he probably believes that everyone here lives on Mars, or idiots who do not know the true state of things in Russia.
          I was probably just very lucky, I accidentally ended up in two cities of Russia where everything is fine! laughing
          Guys, if you are so tightly come to us, write in a personal letter I will give the address of the office, I’ll arrange the necessary hands in the brigade !!! I guarantee 30, the sensible get even more. Hard workers have to plow the current at a construction site in rain and snow, and in cold and heat. Under a lying stone, water does not flow, come! hi
          1. -6
            6 March 2013 09: 10
            I was probably just very lucky, I accidentally ended up in two cities of Russia where everything is fine!

            You know, not you alone. Well, the men were not lucky, so they cry - everything is bad, everything was stolen. Once my hat was stolen, the burdock itself was left unattended. We should have blamed the president, but that was before Putin. I don’t know who to blame now, but I definitely need someone.
          2. 0
            6 March 2013 09: 50
            Quote: ATATA
            I was probably just very lucky, I accidentally ended up in two cities of Russia where everything is fine!

            And what are these cities? Not the far north, by chance, where they are not comfortable?
            1. 0
              6 March 2013 09: 55
              Quote: nycsson
              And what are these cities? Not the far north, by chance, where they are not comfortable?

              I wrote here. Read carefully. I give a hint. No, not north.
          3. bask
            +2
            6 March 2013 10: 43
            Quote: ATATA
            e probably just very lucky, I accidentally ended up in two cities of Russia where everything is fine

            So I’m saying. Where is the paradise that you described ATTACK In Tula, unemployment there is off-scale, you mean ..
            Quote: Irkutsk
            You are not alone. Well unlucky men in

            Only fools are lucky in cards .. The others themselves earn a living. as they can.
            And where did you see crying and groans.? This song is old - hackneyed.
            Inferior station Volgograd. -25 gr in summer + 45 gr in the shade. Salary 23-27 thousand per month. Mac.
            1. -1
              6 March 2013 11: 03
              Quote: bask
              you described In Tula, there unemployment goes off scale, what are you talking about ..

              Who wants to work. But I left for a better life in Yöburg. And what? Thank you very much, there is a lot to go if you want to earn.
            2. -1
              6 March 2013 11: 24
              Inferior station Volgograd. -25 gr in summer + 45 gr in the shade. Salary 23-27 thousand per month. Mac.

              TCHE Irkutsk - the driver of the shunting diesel locomotive 40 tyrov, in passenger traffic 60. Who's stopping? improve
          4. Moritz
            +5
            6 March 2013 11: 15
            Quote: ATATA
            Guys, if you are so tightly come to us, write in a personal letter I will give the address of the office, I’ll arrange the necessary hands in the brigade !!! I guarantee 30, the sensible get even more. Hard workers have to plow the current at a construction site in rain and snow, and in cold and heat. Under a lying stone, water does not flow, come!

            give the address of the office, I’m not too lazy, I’ll pay three hundred rubles to the office too and see how much your office paid taxes to the budget, you are our patriot. Or maybe some federal official will be here on the site and send a request to the tax at the place of registration, you yourself said that there were five thousand in securities, thirty-five in your hands. That’s the whole reason why Gaster is brought in packs to us.
            1. -5
              6 March 2013 11: 20
              Quote: moritz
              give the address of the office, I’m not too lazy, I’ll pay three hundred rubles to the office too and see how much your office paid taxes to the budget, patriot you are our homeland

              laughing
              Are you attracted to snitching?
              1. Moritz
                +3
                6 March 2013 11: 23
                Quote: ATATA
                laughing
                Are you attracted to wrecking and squealing?

                why did you get blown away right away? even put a minus sign
                1. -3
                  6 March 2013 11: 46
                  Quote: moritz
                  why did you get blown away right away? even put a minus sign

                  But what not to judge? Himself said that you want to be a snitch. Get it.
                  1. Moritz
                    +3
                    6 March 2013 12: 22
                    Quote: ATATA
                    But what not to judge? Himself said that you want to be a snitch. Get it.

                    I just suggested that you name your office, if it is white, what are you afraid of? accusing me of informing you, calling me an informer (switching to personalities, a well-known reception of forum scribes on a salary, well, let's assume that you are the construction manager), you automatically signed that you were violating the laws of the Russian Federation. Simply put, you are a parasite. and not a patriot to whom you expose yourself here. Any objections?
                    1. -3
                      6 March 2013 12: 29
                      Quote: moritz
                      transition to personalities famous reception of forum clerks on salary


                      Quote: moritz
                      Simply put, you parasite.

                      Quote: moritz
                      Any objections?

                      I answered you with your quotes.
                      Quote: moritz
                      undersigned that you work in violation of the laws of the Russian Federation

                      Actually, we have the presumption of not guilty, but you can sink in even to the pillar. Our civil servants know this science by heart. That's what they stand as soon as they get the team.
                      Atu his Fas!
                      1. Moritz
                        +2
                        6 March 2013 12: 35
                        Quote: ATATA
                        I answered you with your quotes.

                        Well, what about the topic? no longer call the members of the forum to work on a construction site?
                      2. -2
                        6 March 2013 12: 38
                        Quote: moritz
                        Well, what about the topic? no longer call the members of the forum to work on a construction site?

                        I've already written a lot on the topic. I will not repeat specifically for you.
              2. +5
                6 March 2013 11: 56
                Quote: ATATA
                Are you attracted to snitching?

                Yes, everything is clear with you, along with your construction site! Are you holding us for fools? Now construction is an extremely profitable business. And if you attract workers from Tajikistan to it, so generally a klondike! wassat
            2. +2
              6 March 2013 11: 54
              Quote: moritz
              you yourself stated that there were five thousand in securities, thirty-five in your hands. That’s the whole reason why Gaster is brought in packs to us.

              Believe me, everything is exactly the opposite!
              I have a question for ATATA, but does the employer make deductions for migrant workers to the pension fund, etc. ???
              1. -5
                6 March 2013 12: 03
                Quote: nycsson
                I have a question for ATATA, but does the employer make deductions for migrant workers to the pension fund, etc. ???

                If Gast works legally, then of course he produces, and not legally, both Russians and Gastas work. We have GASTS all legal quotas and salaries get on the cards all and GASTA and the Russian workers and engineers. Because we, in one person, both customers and contractors do not offend ourselves and pay for the work in full in rubles without a * ball.
                1. Moritz
                  +2
                  6 March 2013 12: 26
                  Quote: ATATA
                  If Gast works legally, then of course he produces, and not legally, both Russians and Gastas work. We have GASTS all legal quotas and salaries get on the cards all and GASTA and the Russian workers and engineers.

                  ))))) how much do you know for the construction manager. how much does anyone charge and where. Legal Gaster, do not tell, study the law before blurt out))) Is it expensive for the company to contain legal Gaster?)))))
                  1. -2
                    6 March 2013 12: 40
                    Quote: moritz
                    ))))) how much do you know for the construction manager. how much does anyone charge and where.

                    And what to know then, the salary is at stake, what else do you need to know?
                    Quote: moritz
                    Is it expensive for the company to contain legal Gaster?)))))

                    The point is not expensive or cheap, but the fact that local people do not go to the construction site.
                    1. +1
                      6 March 2013 13: 18
                      Quote: ATATA

                      And what to know then, the salary is at stake, what else do you need to know?

                      Something you, in my opinion, go too far! It is hard to believe that they are issued cards, maybe I'm wrong, of course ........
                      1. -2
                        6 March 2013 13: 22
                        Quote: nycsson
                        It is hard to believe that they are issued cards, maybe I'm wrong, of course ........

                        Of course, this is not always the case and Russians are often paid in gray. But here everything is so white and good, and people are afraid to lose it.
                        You see only one side of the problem.
                        Say MOVED, and ask a different question WHY come in large numbers? By whom do you replace Gastes at a construction site, they are 90% not because they supplanted the Russians or are paid less, but because you cannot lure Russians into a construction site. In vocational schools do not go all go to effective managers to study.
                      2. +2
                        6 March 2013 18: 38
                        Quote: ATATA
                        ask a different question WHY did you come in large numbers? By whom do you replace the guests at the construction site 90%

                        Stop! WHAT are you building? Where does the money for the construction come from? Let's understand these issues, then it will become clearer why migrant workers at a construction site and why locals do not go there.
                      3. 0
                        6 March 2013 19: 05
                        Quote: Normal
                        Stop! WHAT are you building? Where does the money for the construction come from?

                        We are building housing for residents of Öburg, but what does it change?
                      4. +1
                        6 March 2013 19: 57
                        Quote: ATATA
                        We are building housing for residents of Öburg

                        Elite - commercial or social-free? I think this makes a difference.
                      5. 0
                        6 March 2013 21: 30
                        Quote: Normal
                        Elite - commercial or social-free? I think this makes a difference.

                        Turn Gasta work both there and there. And what, then, does it change?
                      6. +1
                        6 March 2013 22: 16
                        Quote: ATATA
                        Turn Gasta work both there and there.

                        I guess I didn’t put it right. Or rather, he didn’t clarify his position. The fact is that, as I think, the massive construction of housing (for which it was required to attract migrant workers) is not necessary at all. I don’t know how in Yöburg (Ksati, is that Yekaterinburg?) And in Moscow and Moscow Region mass housing construction has nothing to do with providing housing for those in need. Who could buy an apartment, he had already bought it for a long time, and not even one. Who could not, he will not be able in the foreseeable future.
                        This is a clean business. In the capital market there is a mass of unsecured money. Cut colored paper obtained by speculative methods and for mediation, services. That is, this paper must be implemented, invested in something real. The most real is real estate. Then you had a few kilograms of cut, colored paper, and then immediately an apartment or a house. There is a difference.
                        There is demand, and demand is hot. To satisfy him and need working hands. But we have capitalism and the capitalist needs a profit. And so we get masses of migrants to our cities. Migrant for the capitalist is another way to reduce the cost of work and increase their profits, so a local can walk in the cold.
                        You are now on a horse, but I assure you that in a few years a bogeyman will sit in your place (for 70% of your salary). If you have time to put together a decent amount for the future, then I am happy for you. And if not? What then do you say?
                    2. Moritz
                      +4
                      6 March 2013 16: 48
                      Quote: ATATA
                      The point is not expensive or cheap, but the fact that local people do not go to the construction site.

                      There is no need to leave the question. For the money that the company must pay for a legal guest worker, two locals will come to you with pleasure. And they don’t come to you from the locals for a simple reason: gray salaries, irregular working hours, absence of sick leave, paid leave, insurance, delayed salary. Your organization does not comply with labor laws, is hiding from paying taxes, so guest workers are a find for you, how much does the Federal Migration Service take from you every month for one soul? you should know this as part of your position.
                      1. 0
                        6 March 2013 19: 10
                        Quote: moritz
                        gray salaries, irregular working hours, absence of sick leave, paid leave, insurance, wage delays. Your organization does not comply with labor laws, is hiding from paying taxes, so guest workers are a find for you, how much does the Federal Migration Service take from you every month for one soul? you should know this as part of your position.

                        Stop inventing passions!
                        Already tired of writing the same thing to you!
                        Salaries are white on the cards. Gaster quotas directly from Uzbekistan and Tajikistan. 5 days a week we work from 8:00 to 17:00. The salary of a construction worker 200 rubles / hour +/- from qualifications, regardless of his race. But there are refineries, this is construction. I pay extra for processing.
                        You are tired of me.
                      2. Moritz
                        0
                        6 March 2013 20: 51
                        Quote: ATATA
                        Stop inventing passions!
                        Already tired of writing the same thing to you!
                        Salaries are white on the cards. Gaster quotas directly from Uzbekistan and Tajikistan. 5 days a week we work from 8:00 to 17:00. The salary of a construction worker 200 rubles / hour +/- from qualifications, regardless of his race. But there are refineries, this is construction. I pay extra for processing.
                        You are tired of me.

                        Do not hysteria, foreman. You contradict yourself in each of your promises, go to sleep a bit, tomorrow you will write something positive on a fresh mind.
                        oh, oh resentment of the superintendent-general turned out to be fatal, went to minus all reports))) you're funny
      2. -1
        6 March 2013 08: 15
        Quote: bask
        Then ATTACK writes not to ponder

        Are you me
        I know salaries at a construction site at Gaster are not by hearsay. I work at a construction site in 1994 to present.
        Quote: bask
        We have a salary of 30 thousand rubles in Stalingrad. This is a lot.

        And what is not enough? And where does Stalingrad, are you from Stalingrad? I’ve been away from Tula for six months now in Öburg. And here and here at a construction site, Gaster is paid the same amount of 30 rubles per circle. I myself get MUCH more.
        Quote: bask
        ATTACK ARE YOU NOT A MARSIAN?

        Now I’m sitting in my workroom. I look out the window, the snow is falling, Gaster rustle on the construction site ... No, everything is fine, I'm on the ground in Yöburg.
        Where are you in Stalingrad? How is it at the front now? ))) hi
      3. Horde
        +5
        6 March 2013 09: 31
        Greetings to Basque!
        Greetings to the Horde. Here ATAKA writes not to droop. We have a salary of 30 thousand rubles in Stalingrad. This is a lot. And only Russie work as janitors. And for 30 they go to construction sites and factories.
        I WRITE PUPEY ,,,. AS IF WITH ,,, MARSA ,,
        ATTACK ARE YOU NOT A MARSIAN?


        not ATTACK he is ATATH laughing National policy in Russia is a criminal policy, I live in Moscow, I know that there are big companies, say Aeroflot, I mean offices, there really are people there like a herring in a barrel, then that PATCHES ARE HIDDEN unemployment benefits, of course a fact.
    2. +6
      6 March 2013 09: 49
      Quote: Horde
      We know who they are.

      We know! But all the power in their hands! And while we are powerless to change something ..... crying
    3. +5
      6 March 2013 10: 00
      They need slaves!
  8. 120352
    +21
    6 March 2013 07: 39
    Guest workers are imported with the following goals:
    I.1. To deprive Russian men of employment opportunities on this basis 2. To force Russian men to become hopelessly drunk in order to 3. Accelerate the degradation of the Russian ethnic group and its 4. Quick extinction, which is successfully implemented by the Russian anti-Russian state and government at the hands of its lured oligarchs.
    II. Destroy skilled labor in Russia by crowding out its low-paid mediocrity. This is due to the destruction of the vocational education system. There are no vocational schools in Russia, technical schools (colleges) do not understand who they train, only not qualified specialists.
    III. Destroy the Russian economy. 1. There is no longer any agriculture left. This is easy to ascertain, having traveled, say, by A.N. Radishchev from St. Petersburg to Moscow. Dozens, hundreds of abandoned villages, thousands of hectares of abandoned land. Those who wish, however, can buy it at the prices of a gold mine from persons of non-Russian origin. Russian from the agricultural market and the Russian market of the same land ousted. 2. Industry survives in the walls of factories built before the revolution and during the USSR, without any promising equipment and development plans.
    THE PURPOSE OF ALL IMPLEMENTATION IS THE DESTRUCTION OF RUSSIA!
    1. Vanek
      +6
      6 March 2013 07: 46
      Quote: 120352
      Vocational schools in Russia there is no


      Not true! They are! But that's the thing. I am the first - a gas-electric welder and occasionally run into a vocational school where he studied. Well to the teacher. Grab it all. So I'll go tomorrow. After all, the eighth. So, vocational schools that is - students are not. I studied - a group of 32 people, well, 22-24 people constantly went. Now, it was in the first days of September, I drove into a vocational school and, do not believe it, FOUR in the classroom! student. I went to the workshops, yes there, more there - SEVEN.

      So there are vocational schools .......... while there is ...........
      1. +12
        6 March 2013 08: 09
        In 2007, he studied at the Koltsovo Technical Center, was surprised that there are VERY few pilots being trained, asked a question, received an answer that they are not going, are not able to go through a medical examination. I would be glad to tell any cadet but there are none. As of August 07, Not a single application was filed for the pilot. We are currently considering a law on hiring pilots from abroad. Kick stop
        1. +3
          6 March 2013 10: 47
          Quote: Sirocco
          Not a single application was filed for the pilot. We are currently considering a law on hiring pilots from abroad. Kick

          Drug, beer and vodka do their job ...... crying I forgot the cigarettes ........
    2. +4
      6 March 2013 07: 49
      Quote: 120352
      To deprive Russian men of employment opportunities and on this basis

      You are a funny man ...! Only yesterday I had to part forever with two "Russian men" who were employed (one is 27 years old, the other is 43), but prefer to combine work (useful) with pleasant (eat vodka). And so, if not at every step, then at every second ... It is regrettable, but it is a fact. I am not Makarenko to deal with the education of those who have stumbled. But such judgments
      Quote: 120352
      men from hopelessness to drink

      often from such "Russian men" and emanate. Not everything is so simple. There are hard workers who are dear to watch, both Russian and non-Russian. By the way - not only Russians are prone to drunkenness, but also the same Gaster. And they reason - similarly - "There is no work, we will drink vodka - from hopelessness!" Who tries .. are they needed?
      1. Earthman
        0
        6 March 2013 09: 10
        Quote: esaul
        You are a funny man ...! Only yesterday I had to part forever with two "Russian men" who were employed (one is 27 years old, the other is 43), but prefer to combine work (useful) with pleasant (eat vodka). And so, if not at every step, then at every second ... It is regrettable, but it is a fact. I am not Makarenko to deal with the education of those who have stumbled. But such judgments

        I agree with you
    3. Earthman
      -2
      6 March 2013 09: 07
      Quote: 120352

      Guest workers are imported with the following goals:
      I.1. To deprive Russian men of employment opportunities on this basis 2. To force Russian men to become hopelessly drunk in order to 3. Accelerate the degradation of the Russian ethnic group and its 4. Quick extinction, which is successfully implemented by the Russian anti-Russian state and government at the hands of its lured oligarchs.

      What evil are these your migrant workers, forced to thump and inject. If I personally offend you somehow, then you will leave insult in a weekly binge? So it turns out? Or because of strong resentment, arrange a gay parade in Moscow?
      Quote: 120352
      II. Destroy skilled labor in Russia by crowding out its low-paid mediocrity. This is due to the destruction of the vocational education system. There are no vocational schools in Russia, technical schools (colleges) do not understand who they train, only not qualified specialists.

      So why then do not take skilled labor? I think you know the answer.
  9. +16
    6 March 2013 07: 41
    The article is all, albeit emotionally, but on the case. All our stability, relative well-being and 3% GDP growth, this is a bubble that does not have a foundation.
    GOVERNMENTAL EXPERTS PROMOTES A NATIONAL CHANGE UNDER THE COVERING OF THE SERVICE POSITION WITH THE INTRODUCTION TO THE ERROR MANAGEMENT OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION HEARING TO THOSE EXPERTS!
    I do not completely agree with this statement. The leadership of the Russian Federation is aware of what is happening. Moreover, I think Putin is consciously pursuing such a policy. Otherwise, he's just dumb.
    1. +4
      6 March 2013 09: 46
      Quote: Karabin
      Moreover, I think Putin is consciously pursuing such a policy. Otherwise, he's just dumb.

      And who is he then in your opinion, if he consciously pursues such a policy? In your opinion he is not stupid, right? So who is he then ??? request
      1. shpuntik
        +3
        6 March 2013 21: 08
        He is a triple agent. Indirectly: the first household appliances, working electric tools that appeared after perestroika, were German firms, then the rest of Europe. Gas pipes stretched there too. Instead of joint ventures, we get an exchange of raw materials for high-tech goods. Where did GDP come from? From Germany, everyone knows. He himself, from the rostrum, said: I have many familiar businessmen in Europe. When did they meet? Well, of course he was not recruited. I just didn’t refuse running-in, and that’s all. Another thing is that he refused to flush Russia into the toilet. Most likely so.
  10. qwertynsan
    +5
    6 March 2013 08: 02
    yes, drunks and alcoholics are sure to get sick at work. sometimes you just want to take a stick and chase until you sober up. Tired of worse "bitter radish". Especially enrages the phrase
    - Well, what am I drinking? I work!
    1. +4
      6 March 2013 09: 29
      Quote: qwertynsan
      yes, drunks and alcoholics are sure to get sick at work. sometimes you just want to take a stick and chase until you sober up. Tired of worse "bitter radish". Especially enrages the phrase
      - Well, what am I drinking? I work!

      They have an advantage over you! They can be paid less, much less! If only there was enough for fake vodka! crying
  11. fenix57
    +1
    6 March 2013 08: 09
    Quote: Vanek
    Ob-ba

    OB-BA-MA ....
    1. DDR
      +1
      6 March 2013 11: 06
      Quote: fenix57
      OB-BA-MA ....

      Is it where he caught a cold? request lol
  12. +3
    6 March 2013 08: 48
    Q.E.D! So we have "treason" not only in migration policy.
    1. -4
      6 March 2013 09: 17
      And you, excuse me, where is this?
      1. +1
        6 March 2013 09: 36
        I had in mind the power of the propertied structures of the Russian Federation, planet earth, the Milky Way galaxy. smile
        1. 0
          6 March 2013 12: 47
          Moscow forgot to indicate
          1. +1
            6 March 2013 13: 42
            In places the same city, but with shovels you can rake. Yes and necessary. Or is it only in Moscow that all women are yagis, and does the regional government consist entirely of hard-working patriots?
            1. 0
              6 March 2013 16: 39
              only in Moscow all the women are yagis, and the regional government consists entirely of hard-working patriots

              You said that to you and answer this question
  13. optimist
    +7
    6 March 2013 09: 04
    EVERYTHING, what has been happening in our country since 1985, is a continuous chain of betrayal of national interests !!!
  14. +4
    6 March 2013 09: 07
    But is it not better to cut officials, rather than workers? Or to introduce into practice the obligatory work of an official as a janitor for (well, let 2 weeks) while he occupies an official position? Ooh, how immediately the salaries of the janitors go up! laughing
    But seriously, it is necessary to carry out industrialization, as in the time of I.V. Stalin! In order to produce everything for ourselves and in high quality! To not depend on anyone!
  15. sams
    +5
    6 March 2013 09: 18
    "I suppose that behind this, directly or indirectly, there are circles of world Satanism, which are sharply hating the Russian people and dreaming of destroying them with any hands that they just turn up. "- this is the main and correct thought.
  16. plate
    +3
    6 March 2013 09: 21
    Projecting onto yourself ..
    During the school years, my friend and I every summer (during the holidays) went out of service in the housing office as planting men, worked only a few hours a day, but had our honestly earned pocket money, which we did not easily spend on trifles. They gained value. Now I just can’t imagine how it is possible to allow a child to enter the housing and communal services structure ... Although I am not an ardent nationalist, excuse me for the Uzbeks as a minor kid ???
    Therefore, the Russians do not go to such work, so as not to be a black sheep among blacks. My opinion should be some quotas temporary for work in the Russian Federation that do not allow them to assimilate here.
  17. pinecone
    +6
    6 March 2013 09: 29
    Honestly, I was tired of all this official and unofficial chatter about the unfortunate foreign janitors and builders. For them, this is just a cover, the first stage of settlement on the Russian Land. And they are not "gast", that is, guests, and many are no longer arbeiters, or have never been at all. Families are transported here, they are buying apartments, they are beginning to occupy leadership positions in the housing and communal services system, in government structures, including law enforcement agencies. The topic can be continued indefinitely. In short, work on the implementation of the replacement program for the country's indigenous population is in full swing.
    And one more thing: we do not know how many US are left on our land. It is impossible to find such data.
    . .
  18. +8
    6 March 2013 09: 30
    The article is correct. And the fact that the author is not Russian does not matter (Esaulu) In Russia, foreigners were very often more "Russian" than the Slavs. I have been observing everything that is described in the article for a very long time, since I live next to those in power. Gradually, the results, methods and goals of the traitors' work spread throughout Russia. The author is right.
    1. +4
      6 March 2013 09: 42
      Quote: Normal
      And the fact that the author is not Russian does not matter (Esaulu) In Russia, foreigners were often more "Russian" than the Slavs.

      Yesterday was the anniversary of the death of Stalin! A good example of your words! hi
  19. Avenger711
    0
    6 March 2013 09: 32
    No longer needed IN THIS TYPE of economic relations, more LABOR MARKET IS NOT REQUESTED. More can be kept only at the expense of one or another charity. That charity, which V. Putin, by the way, was quite actively involved in during the fat oil years, actually Bribing PARUNISERS - so that they vote for him.


    The author, go to a factory in nearby Zadrypagorsk and find out how he and his workers are there, it turns out that there are not enough workers. And where should they come from, if so many years lawyers and economists have been trained.

    And migrants have nothing to do with it, they do not work in production, all illegal immigrants can’t get there at all, because there it’s strictly with personnel. This does not mean that they do not need to be driven, but then the Muscovites themselves will have to take the streets of revenge and lay bricks on construction sites.
    Money must be withdrawn from Moscow, then migration itself will be bent.
    1. +5
      6 March 2013 10: 14
      Quote: Avenger711
      go to some factory in the nearest Zadrypagorsk and find out how he and his workers are there, it turns out that there are not enough workers.

      Why, in order to prove something, you have to lie. Here is my village, you can quite call it "Zadripagorsk", because there are thousands of them across the country. From large enterprises: a dairy plant, woodworking
      factory, foundry and mechanical plant. There are no vacancies, you won’t get a job. Half of the able-bodied male population is on a shift in Moscow (360 km to the capital) or in Ivanovo. Before these awful reforms, many people worked in housing and communal services and in road construction site. Now in these organizations there are only Gaster, we have reduced all of them.
      Quote: Avenger711
      Money must be withdrawn from Moscow, then migration itself will be bent.

      Migrants are not only a problem of Moscow already. It is a problem in our country too.
      1. +4
        6 March 2013 10: 45
        Quote: baltika-18
        Prior to these urgent reforms, a lot of people worked in the housing and communal services and in the road-building sector. Now there are only Gaster in these organizations, they have reduced our all.

        Greetings, Nikolay! All this is money! Yes
      2. +3
        6 March 2013 16: 13
        Quote: baltika-18
        Prior to these urgent reforms, a lot of people worked in the housing and communal services and in the road-building sector. Now there are only Gaster in these organizations, they have reduced our all.
        Greetings, Nikolai.
        We have the same garbage. In addition, the locals were ousted from driver jobs. From the beginning with public transport, then with trucks and construction equipment. Now at the wheel in minibuses and taxis will meet a person of Slavic nationality, a problem. Migrant workers are already in the protection of supermarkets, where Russians from depressed towns in 200-300 km from Moscow used to work on a rotational basis.
        And we all sing that if not Gaster, then who will revenge and build. Yes, those who before this were ground and built. You have to pay wisely and everything will be in order.
    2. +2
      6 March 2013 16: 01
      Quote: Avenger711
      And migrants have nothing to do with it, they do not work in production
      The article indicates that we do not have a production economy, but a pipe economy. In this economy, migrants are not needed in principle, their own are not needed, not like migrants. But the government is still importing migrant workers. What for? The answer is in the article.
      Quote: Avenger711
      but then the Muscovites themselves will have to lay down the streets of vengeance and bricks at construction sites.
      Muscovites sweep the streets and no worse than Tajiks, but they do not take Muscovites. They need to pay their entire salary and provide them with housing, a kindergarten, and medical care. With "points" everything is much simpler and more profitable. It has been written about this a hundred times. Already tired.
      As for the bricks, I will say so; a complete ban on the construction of commercial housing and offices in Moscow is needed. We got it already with our endless construction. For every square meter built in the capital, 3 square meters should be erected. meters of housing in the province and 100 meters of roads. Then Russia is a mother and will flourish, at the same time the inhabitants of the province will learn how "sweet" it is to live next to migrant workers
      Quote: Avenger711
      Money must be withdrawn from Moscow, then migration itself will be bent.
      And here I completely agree with you. In general, it’s time to capital to another city. Moscow is the country's largest transport hub; it will not be lost without the capital's functions
  20. Ruslan80
    +2
    6 March 2013 09: 39
    State Department experts arrange life in Russia. But Putin travels around the country, and the country is drowning more and more in different shit !!!
  21. pa_nik
    +2
    6 March 2013 09: 49
    Quote: nycsson
    Hear us, Mr. President!


    Where can I subscribe!?!? hi
    1. +3
      6 March 2013 10: 12
      Quote: pa_nik
      Where can I subscribe!?!?

      If i knew! In my soul! A method of comprehending today's reality! hi
  22. Corporal
    -3
    6 March 2013 09: 55
    "The circles of world Satanism" from Vazgen Liparitovich, "a person of the highest degree of competence" is 5 points.

    The earth is round, and an apple falls down - this is a government conspiracy! And we have to say this! Loud! CAPSOM!

    Abomination.
  23. vseprosto
    +3
    6 March 2013 10: 13
    By the way, at a construction site, these emigrants receive an average of 30. It’s just that Russian will not go there, because it’s cold and hard. This is to the so-called average salaries and general cuts.
    I’m scared not only from the article, but from some panic comments. Are you on the street?


    30 nationwide or citywide? Where does the information come from, do you work in construction?

    Is it hard, cold? Those who work in the gas industry in the oil, mining, and so on ... industries are also not sweet and not commensurate at all. Maybe the reason is different?

    A family of 5 to 8 people lives on the salary they receive here in a month. at least 3 months.
    Create such conditions for ordinary Russian
    family and see.
  24. +2
    6 March 2013 10: 24
    Everything is much more complicated than many people think. The republics of Central Asia have limited human resources, even if it is now as easy as possible for migrant workers (and now it’s not very difficult to enter Russia) to be radically no more. In spite of this, the government insists as if it were established that labor migrants are still needed, but where can I get them? Of the closest neighbors, only China has such resources, to which the government is slowly and leads us ...
  25. Dmitriy1969
    +5
    6 March 2013 10: 28
    Correct article. I relate the theses with life, everything corresponds. The Armenian is more patriot than some "Russians." that they pay so much so that they don't just stretch their legs and feed their family? This is already a luxury. Now they are recruiting track technicians, a salary of 5200 rubles, has anyone tried to live on this money and carry reinforced concrete sleepers? And Putin is not old man Hottabych and not Golden a fish, with a wave of a magic wand, will not do anything, but the people who were born here, on this land, will do, and not the population that both the country and the land are imported here is foreign to them. Just a couple of five-year plans and voila-Sovereign breakthrough. I read and I am surprised that there are so many Cossacks sent ... And what is the point of diving with them? Parasites must be destroyed, nature has not come up with another. Otherwise, the body will die. It does not matter, the NKVD, the main point is cleansing!
  26. +3
    6 March 2013 10: 49
    Corruption = crime = migrants-gastric ... links of one chain, knocking out one link ... migrants-gastriks weaken crime = corruption.
  27. Megadan
    +2
    6 March 2013 11: 20
    Among the gastras, the Islam that their fathers and grandfathers professed is becoming less and less popular. And the Wahhabist currents of Islam, which are essentially international, are growing more and more.
    And not because people so want to go kill everyone in the name of faith, but because it is precisely Wahhabism that makes them feel in a foreign land part of something in common. Well, what will happen next, time will tell.
  28. +3
    6 March 2013 11: 26
    I am proceeding with anger ... all this foreign and supposedly oppressed solota hooted in the direction of the "elder brother" and demanded independence from the Russians. Received. Well, build your ideal Masulman paradise with gurias and bananas on saxauls. So no, they are coming here ... There are already crowds of them gurkating in an incomprehensible dialect. At first, only the peasants, and now also the women, packed in scarves up to the very galoshes, appeared!
    Personally, I had the impression that the Russian government itself was purposefully inciting ethnic hatred, broadcasting about tolerance and other liberal crap from all angles. So far, we have not yet Kosovo, but it’s not far from the outskirts of Paris and London ... with their broken windows and set fire to cars.
    Lyaya ... already in Moscow there appeared some "presidents" of the Tajik diasporas, some professional common people to protect the rights of ghasts ... Where are we heading? Or does our "top" hope that this orgy of "interspecific" existence will not affect it? No matter how ...
  29. Megadan
    +3
    6 March 2013 11: 34
    Quote: Understudy
    Does our "top" hope that this bacchanalia of "interspecies" existence will not affect it?

    Moreover, they know it for sure! That’s why they have huts in foreign countries. These are not Stalin - they will not be able to surrender Moscow
  30. Gorchakov
    +3
    6 March 2013 11: 49
    I absolutely agree ... This is treason ....
  31. Ruslan80
    +4
    6 March 2013 11: 57
    Surprising attitude of some figures to this problem! How can one be so narrow-minded and not see a problem? Don’t think about yourself, think about your children, they will suffer from such indifference from your indifference!
  32. wax
    +2
    6 March 2013 12: 54
    If we were Poland, it would be right to limit ourselves to our economic cuisine, as the authors write. But for the time being we are positioning ourselves as a power of world significance, and, therefore, we must deal, including issues of world significance. And here we have no right to completely lose the population of all the former republics of the USSR. Just the key to solving the problem lies not in the prohibitions for migrants, but in their proper involvement in the system of the national economy. On this path, the greed of the oligarchy is a real barrier. The policy of pushing away the citizens of the former USSR, who voluntarily lost their homeland overnight, is an anti-Russian policy fraught with narrowing of Russian influence, isolation and accelerated creation of a hostile environment.
    1. RPD
      +1
      6 March 2013 14: 00
      everything depends on the absence of a global idea that can unite different cultures. while we cling to the past, "our grandfathers fought," and someone's future cannot be seen (
    2. PrikVO 84-86
      +1
      6 March 2013 14: 21
      USA or China, to promote their interests in the Caucasus and in Wed. Asia open their borders to migrants? They make a passage yard for foreigners from their countries.? Or do they find other ways to influence? If the authorities of the Russian Federation cannot pursue a policy beneficial to our country and our people, as more capable leaders do, then let them free up space. But, the fact is that the settlement of Russia by foreigners-this is the goal of the authorities of the Russian Federation.
      And you cannot "lose", as you put it, countries and peoples. They have nowhere to go from their camps.
      They value the relationship with Russia very much, if at every step, their main buy-ins, unless they spit in our direction.
  33. +1
    6 March 2013 13: 51
    <<< Apparently, we are talking about outright national treason with cynical abuse of office. All of these people listed above receive salaries from the state and enjoy the authority of experts in the Kremlin. They are absolutely falsely posing the problem, and absolutely falsely solving it. With a catastrophic shortage of jobs for their citizens, they propose to carry foreigners in wagons, re-populating Russian cities with alien tribes, most often wild and hostile to everything Russian ...
    GOVERNMENTAL EXPERTS PROMOTE NATIONAL CHANGE UNDER THE COVER OF THE OFFICE POSITION WITH INTRODUCTION TO THE DELUSION OF THE LEADERSHIP OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION, LISTENING TO THE OPINION OF THESE EXPERTS! >>>
    The arrogant IMPRESSION of this liberal-gamemocratic interplay of government experts is shocking, who are keenly solving the most important and acute issue for Russia, advocating the further attraction of migrants to the Russian economy, although from the well-known figures given in the article to everyone (and without the "academies") it becomes extremely clear that The current state of the Russian economy not only DOESN'T REQUIRE migrants, but it IS NECESSARY to RE-EMPLOY a huge number of fired Russians in order to avoid tension in society. You can’t call it otherwise harm and treason! Isn't it time all these "experts" and their like-minded people to RE-EMPLOYE in places not so remote - there their ideological co-religionists, lesbirast-market people, the nouveau riche, have not cut down the whole forest yet!
    1. +2
      6 March 2013 14: 13
      Quote: Goldmitro
      The arrogant COUGHTER of this liberal-gayocratic inter-saber of government experts

      But it touches me that the failures of Putin’s policy have become fashionable to blame on some anonymous experts, liberals and the bear. Yes, links to the vile State Department have become less frequent.
      1. RPD
        0
        6 March 2013 14: 23
        "I did everything I could, who can do it better" who knows the undercover struggle in the Kremlin? maybe there as in the prohibition "step left, step right")))) and you are Kennedy's colleague))
        1. +2
          6 March 2013 19: 03
          Quote: RPD
          "step left, step right")))) and you are Kennedy's colleague))

          Who did you vote for? For a person who will take the presidency or for someone who is afraid to take unpopular steps, because there is an opportunity to end like a Kennedy?
  34. Urrry
    +4
    6 March 2013 14: 20
    There is an interesting point in the article - about "artificial employment" ... indeed, the staffs of some institutions and organizations (primarily state and municipal) are inflated to the utmost, and due to the positions of "unproductive" ... ordinary performers are constantly falling under reductions - and all sorts of "deputies, assistants, advisers, heads do not understand why departments and departments" more and more. All this is a cohort of "just good guys", who and their relatives and in-laws are a burden on the budgets, while not only not giving the organization's efficiency - but also preventing it from inventing "tasks" to justify its own existence and which are again a burden to fall on ordinary performers: reports , reports, badges, meetings and approvals ... as a result, the states are inflated everywhere in relation to the same USSR - and there is essentially no one to work: queues at the polyclinic to an ordinary doctor, to a passport officer, in social security, they forgot on the street when they saw a patrol of the PPS or OVO and etc. etc. :(
    1. RPD
      0
      6 March 2013 14: 30
      in 90 it became fashionable to walk with a briefcase, even if in the briefcase the mouse choked on with longing
  35. aleks71
    +1
    6 March 2013 14: 58
    as I already wrote on this topic ... there would be no demand, we wouldn’t go ... And the demand is supported by such construction superintendents as ATTACK..100%, they have a pretty penny from each gaster in their pocket, that's why so actively and defend the policy of the government. Once I witnessed in St. Petersburg, the Petrogradskaya metro station, on some holiday, Eid al-Adha, like .. Mlyayaya .... After namaz, 5 thousand, maybe more, brothers with Wed. Asia went .. There, as in purgatory, the whole Kamenno-Ostrovsky prospect, how many eyes have seen in the distance, some black ones .... It became just creepy .. So I think what will happen if these eagles are given the "correct" setting, how long will Peter hold out? And how many of them are there all over Russia-mother? I consider it unambiguously, fundamentally to change something ...
  36. +1
    6 March 2013 16: 21
    It is impossible to get rid of one seditious thought - after all, these government experts who advocate attracting migrants cannot but understand that the next stream of arriving migrants in the conditions of the beginning wave of reductions and dismissals, as a result of which dozens (and maybe hundreds of thousands of Russians) will be without work, it will inevitably cause an increase in tension in society, fraught with an explosion. And if so, then government experts deliberately go for it and this possible explosion is THE GOAL!
    Podvalny with belolentochniki does not manage to "stir up" in any way, but here it MAY even work out ... if you do not take personnel cleansing measures, which are long overdue
    1. -1
      6 March 2013 16: 25
      Quote: Goldmitro
      in conditions of the beginning wave of cuts and layoffs, as a result of which dozens (and maybe hundreds of thousands of Russians) will be without work

      Are you personally being laid off? How many of your acquaintances have recently been reduced?
  37. +1
    6 March 2013 20: 27
    Migrants profit now, not thinking about the future of the country.
  38. shpuntik
    +2
    6 March 2013 21: 20
    They want to weaken the Russian people. Dilute as alcohol with water. Until a certain point, alcohol burns, then no. Moreover, they are Muslims, and we know that the fate of peoples is directly related to their beliefs ... Therefore, anyone who wants his yard to be cleaned by a Russian janitor, or say a local one, let him create a page of his house in the social network ( VKontakte e.g. community). Further, when we unite each in its own neighborhood, then we can set the conditions for ZhEKu. Well, not from the windows to shoot them (from a crossbow) ... bully IMHO.
    1. +1
      6 March 2013 23: 11
      Quote: shpuntik
      They want to weaken the Russian people.

      We are already weak, if we allow this to be done.

      Quote: shpuntik
      Well, not from the windows to shoot them

      Not an option. Instead of one shot, two will be delivered. And the shooters are transplanted. We have a serious article for crossbows.
  39. 0
    7 March 2013 11: 40
    Straight Captain Nexus :-)
  40. Kostichous
    0
    April 1 2014 21: 55
    Connection check
  41. Serghago
    0
    April 14 2014 16: 56
    There is a grocery store at two cash desks. All inventory is kept in 1s.
    What cash program do you recommend?