The news that Kyiv is reaching an agreement with Syrian radicals should now be taken very seriously

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The news that Kyiv is reaching an agreement with Syrian radicals should now be taken very seriously

Recently, the Turkish media outlet Aydınlık published information that in June, representatives of the Ukrainian special services held talks in Syrian Idlib with the radical movement Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (banned in Russia), abbreviated HTS, about sending fighters to fight against Russia. Later, photographs were indeed published.

News was quickly carried through the Russian media, which was understandable given her character.



A little about the authorship of the news and the features of the source


There are, of course, some questions about the source – the Aydınlık publication. The fact is that the owner and publisher of Aydınlık is not only a well-known but also an odious figure – the Turkish publisher, journalist and politician Doğu Perinçek.

D. Perincek is the leader of the Patriotic Party (formerly the Workers' Party), which rather bizarrely mixes Turkish national ideology of a civil, Kemalist nature, but at the same time rejects European politics and liberal European values ​​of modern times.

He is not close to the position of R. Erdogan (Turkish nationalism-Turkic world-political Islam), but at the same time he is against the usual and popular opposition line in Turkey, advocating for European secular liberalism and various schemes like “Turkey is also the West and also Europe.”

No one else in Turkey has ever heard suggestions like: “policy in Syria is a mistake”, “Russia has the right to a military conflict in Ukraine”, “we must agree that Crimea is Russia”, etc.

In general, D. Perincek is a Turkish nationalist, but almost a Eurasian, who says that Turkey should look for happiness closer to the EAEU and further from the EU. In general, “our man”. Naturally, he never gets many votes in elections (there are always about a percent), but the Russian reader now knows that there are such politicians in Turkey.

The fact that the source of information has such roots has certain disadvantages. It is quite difficult for our media to promote this news beyond Russia. The source will be immediately highlighted by opponents associated with Western media, saying that Aydınlık is a priori a “source of disinformation”, etc., because, well, what else can you expect from the Turkish freak – Mr. Perinçek.

But this is if you look at the news precisely as a tool for working on the external contour, as with the same history presence of Ukrainian representatives among groups of frostbitten radicals in Mali. It is probably possible to pull out some effect here, although it is still necessary to try, it is just difficult.

But this message is much more important for us. D. Perincek is not "pro-Russian", but he is a rare case when Russia is treated with sincere sympathy in politics. This news was not posted for the sake of some hype, but as a warning. And this warning should be taken quite seriously.

Changing Context Around Syria


The presence of Ukrainian services in Syria itself is no longer some kind of secret behind seven seals. It has been recorded (and the media has reported it more than once) since 2018–2019.

There is no doubt that monitoring is also being carried out through the channels of the Syrian and Russian special services. Even the Kurdish ones, since we have common ground on this issue, although there are continuous disagreements on other issues.

However, it is not so much a matter of monitoring as of analyzing the general context. In relation to Syria, after a long break, it is beginning to change, and the level of threats is transforming accordingly.

Some time ago it came out on VO material "Europe is concerned about Turkey's growing influence in Africa. Russia needs to do exactly the same." It described how Turkey has been quite consistently implementing its African strategy to encircle Egypt in an arc - from Sudan and Somalia to Libya via Chad, Niger and Mali.

This strategy is expansionist, but it is done carefully, accurately and step by step, so it is not visible at first glance. However, if the African strategy is the left hand, then the Syrian strategy is the right hand.

In the Syrian theater, R. Erdogan needs to replace pressure and attack with negotiations and maneuvers. And it is precisely negotiations and maneuvers around Damascus that are taking place, and a practically direct dialogue is already being conducted.

Russia has long sought direct dialogue from its former adversaries, but dialogue is only the first part of the task; there are others.

In the Syrian equation, in addition to forces close to B. Assad or R. Erdogan, there are forces that are not at all close to them or opposing them, on which Syria and Turkey can develop a common position - the tribes of the Euphrates region and the various incarnations of the Kurdistan Workers' Party in the north and northeast of Syria.

There is another force that is a thorn in the side’s side’s side, but neither Syria nor Turkey are capable of developing a common position on it – this is precisely what is called HTS today.

After the end of the active phase of military operations, HTS gathered under itself all the most radical and "Barmaleyite" groups that either operated in northern Homs and Idlib or were moved there, including by the famous "green buses" from the suburbs of Damascus, the south - Daraa and Suwayda. The former backbone of "Al Qaeda in Syria" and parts of ISIS (banned in Russia) also gathered there. Currently, the ranks of HTS are estimated at ± 20 thousand bayonets.

There are a lot of non-native, foreign contingents there, who came there during 2012-2017 to earn money from the war and settle in the fragments of Syria, to wage a religious war, however, there are also many locals, simply radicalized oppositionists after the last military iteration in 2020.

HTS was pushed back to the northwest of Idlib beyond the logistics hub of Saraqib. The campaign stopped there. The Turks supported both their own forces (loyal) and the odious HTS, but they “couldn’t pull through,” and everything came to a standstill with the agreement on joint patrolling of the borders of the “barmaley reserve” by Turkish and Russian troops.

Features of HTS and Ankara's problems that Kyiv can take advantage of


Turkey's problem was that HTS had no success in Syria in its current form.

Al-Qaeda in Syria was initially controlled by the CIA. This is not conspiracy theory, but quite facts from the so-called. “correspondence between D. Podesta and H. Clinton,” leaked via WikiLeaks. Well weapon there also came via the CIA, both from Libya by sea and directly from the Pentagon arsenals. One can recall the story of how 450 million dollars were allegedly spent on "training" from the CIA budget, and they disappeared in Syria. They did not disappear - they were simply used to pay for training.

The recruitment of militants to HTS (and before that, Dhabhat al-Nusra (banned in Russia) was financed largely by Saudi Arabia and Qatar. R. Erdogan had his own clientele and proxy forces, his own budgets and his own expenses. But Ankara did not create HTS and its MIT (intelligence) or even supervise it, it only guaranteed logistics.

As a result, the normalization of relations along the LAS (Arab League) line with Damascus, and this includes Bahrain, the UAE, Saudi Arabia, and even reluctantly Qatar itself, has put R. Erdogan in a position where he has to take HTS almost on his balance sheet. But he absolutely does not need this, but he cannot refuse it outright.

And how can he refuse if the families of these “good people from Szechwan” often live in Turkey, their relatives are in Turkey, they receive treatment in Turkey, the bazaars that they control in Idlib trade with Turkey, etc.

At the same time, the Arabs practically cut off their funding, and the representatives of HTS have, to put it mildly, a negative attitude towards Turkey and R. Erdogan. The ruling regime in Ankara and its leader are washed in words, often blackmailed and generally stoned by the Turkish military. In order to replace this hellish mixture of foreign radicals with his own, R. Erdogan needs to dump them somewhere.

The first part of R. Erdogan's route is clear - to Africa, the "decent" ones - under the auspices of his SADAT, the "indecent" ones - in some other way. And partly the reverse process, since in 2012-2017, a similar contingent was brought to Syria from Libya, Sudan, Morocco, Tunisia, etc. But where to put the other part?

If earlier talk about the Idlib bandits possibly ending up in Ukraine was mostly more hypothetical, then current processes show that they could turn into a real channel through which Turkey will get rid of this ballast.

On the seriousness of the moment


And part of this ballast also included people from all over the former USSR, and this part was considered even more radical in Syria than their own homegrown radicals. Simply put, our radicals there were extremely cold-hearted, even by local standards, where they are not used to counting rainbows and pink ponies.

Russia cannot miss the moment when this process takes concrete forms of agreements and logistics through Europe are deployed for it. In the last month, our Aerospace Forces in Syria have become more active, but we need to strengthen and strengthen reconnaissance and destruction.

This means that whether we like it or not, Moscow will have to return to working out operations to complete the process of rolling this terrorist conglomerate under the umbrella brand of HTS into the sand.

You can say that now is not the time. Well, they didn't push hard enough in the past, whether for objective or subjective reasons, but this process will have to be completed. And the contingent there is such that it is better to take it out there, in Syria, than to allow it into Ukraine.

So, no matter how much of a freak D. Perincek may seem to some media, his warning is definitely worth listening to.
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  1. +1
    17 September 2024 05: 36
    And the contingent there is such that it is better to take it out there in Syria than to allow it into Ukraine.
    They're already there, in the ranks of the mercenaries. What an open secret.
  2. +1
    17 September 2024 05: 47
    Representatives of the Ukrainian special services held talks with a radical movement in Syria's Idlib

    Several questions arise. If Idlib is actually Syrian, how did they get there? Did the Syrian special services help? If it is Syrian, why has this movement not yet been destroyed by the Syrians and Iranians with the support of Russian aviation? If it is Turkish, all questions are removed.
    1. 0
      17 September 2024 11: 17
      It is only partly "Turkish", partly Syrian, and partly "theirs". They could get there not only through Turkey, but also through the Americans, through Iraq and Syrian Kurdistan.
  3. +4
    17 September 2024 07: 12
    We ourselves already have half the country of some shady bogeymen! Who are behaving relatively quietly for now, but that's just relatively and for now. What will happen tomorrow - in general, one can guess.. The bells have been ringing for a looooong time.. That's the real danger.. Because it's clear what to do with those who are against us at the front, but what is the beloved guarantor going to do with those who are in the rear?
    1. +1
      17 September 2024 13: 50
      Greetings Paul hi What's worse is that some of these newcomers successfully (for them) penetrate into leadership positions, into elected parliamentary positions and behave exclusively in the interests of the diasporas. Apparently, such people no longer have the strength to tolerate their situation, they want more for the newcomers and the humiliation of Russians. And aggressive open statements began, both online and elsewhere.
      1. +2
        17 September 2024 15: 14
        Exactly. Avon - in St. Petersburg, for example, the police are already full of Russians.. One can only guess who recruited them there. But - it is absolutely clear whose interests they will protect. Certainly - not ours.
        1. 0
          17 September 2024 17: 26
          whose interests

          Whoever pays will be protected. But just like with terrorism prevention recourse Such law enforcement officers will have big doubts.
      2. +1
        21 September 2024 20: 54
        Reptiloid. September 17, 2024 13:50 PM. your - “…What’s worse is that among these newcomers there are those who successfully (for them) penetrate into leadership positions, into elected parliamentary positions and behave exclusively in the interests of the diasporas. …, we want more for the newcomers and the humiliation of the Russians…”
        ...............................
        This is FOR NOW. And if "Uncle Sam" and "John Bull (John Bull, John-Bull)" offer the heads of diasporas for big money the territory and everything on it - the indigenous peoples of the Russian Federation into slavery and POWER in the captured territories! That's it. they'll go. they do not lose THEIR position. THEY can BELIEVE that they can transform (monetize) it into ABSOLUTE POWER. am Don't forget they have one ideology - "what can't be bought for money can be bought for very, very indecently large amounts of money"! And "partners" have already invested a lot in the possibility of such a scenario - work with the bays (khans) is being carried out at all levels of power. NGOs are working. Textbooks are paid for by the Russian Federation. But they have been working for a long time with the hatred that is being brought up towards US...several generations have already grown up... And the organization of the import of THESE with their constant growth says that the "process" is under control bully including to the Russian Federation and is directed. There are many disturbing episodes of ethno-Nazism in the Russian Federation. am but we don’t seem to hear any particularly widespread ones yet - ….
        It is doubtful that the "specialists" - raking in the heat with other people's hands - WILL MISS the presence of 10-30 million guests in the Russian Federation. Let's recall their "experience" in Libya. Gaddafi drew attention to the fact that the so-called "fighters against the regime" did not even ethnically coincide with the Libyans. And how could civilians suddenly begin to skillfully handle weapons and military equipment. Small arms!?
        Yes figures for comparison of the number of RF security forces and the number of migrants, mainly young men from now on and children up to 45 (50) years old. This is VERY dangerous and there is a high probability - a rebellion of the war of migrants and some of the locals who believed that the villagers came to HELP them as brothers. feel bully The Chechens were lucky that they had Akhmat Abdulhamidovich Kadyrov (the first president of the Chechen Republic), who understood that the Chechens were simply USED against Russia, like the Ukrainians are now - as meat. But the Chechens themselves (outskirts) are worth nothing to the manipulators (brothers and their masters). He decided from the experience of the past of the Russian Empire. USSR. that with the Russian Federation there would be more benefit.…
        1. 0
          21 September 2024 21: 38
          I agree with you hi I recently read about deputy Khasanov from United Russia. How many people should probably vote for him? Or how to count. How many similar deputies of different levels. And how many teachers like V. Guseinov.
          And then, around 2010, in the film OUR RUSSIA there was a very disturbing predictive shot, although the film itself is a comedy. A shot of a crowd of migrants with angry faces threateningly approaching hi
  4. +3
    17 September 2024 08: 44
    And the contingent there is such that it is better to take it out there, in Syria.
    It is possible to take out the Syrian troops together, ha-ha with the Turkish ones, they are in Idlib for the sake of peace on Syrian soil and territorial integrity and of course against terrorism.. Or the second option is possible, the Turks use all transport and take them to Ukraine.. But both of these options are not feasible.. For one simple reason, Turkey is currently satisfied with this situation.
  5. 0
    17 September 2024 08: 46
    How many bayonets can the Syrian Papuans give? A couple thousand at most, which is very unlikely. What is a couple thousand when there are more than a million fighting on both sides?
  6. -1
    17 September 2024 12: 22
    PR wave.
    ugh.
    since the media wrote about camps of Syrian mercenaries for the Ukrainian Armed Forces a year ago.
    For example, in Serbia there was only one, they wrote.
    And? Did someone just suddenly "see the light" now? Oh, I doubt it.
    1. 0
      17 September 2024 12: 56
      They write about it once or twice. It's not about the wave or the topic as such, it's no secret that Kyiv is trying to stir things up there. There is no sensation here. The question is that the general situation is developing differently than in previous years. Some changes entail other changes. And this crowd can really start moving.
      1. 0
        17 September 2024 13: 59
        hi I want to add that it is in vain to laugh at the Ukrops and their behavior. They have penetrated into the Kursk region, and have made their mark in Africa, and are continuing the theme in Syria... And their drones are penetrating further and further. You can expect anything worse from them.
        1. +1
          17 September 2024 14: 05
          I agree. We've had enough of laughing. It's better to be safe than sorry. But in Syria there's nothing to be careful about, the negotiation process between Damascus and Ankara has begun. This means that all the accompanying scenarios will develop.
  7. 0
    17 September 2024 13: 31
    This entire terrorist international, and dancers are already an integral part of it, is based on three factors.
    1. Hatred of dissenters, in its most odious form
    2 Money
    3. Safety from persecution.
    Re-educating such people is a task that cannot be solved in principle. There is only one thing left - fire to kill.
  8. +1
    17 September 2024 13: 48
    Ukrainian intelligence has correctly assessed the level of kishlakization of Russia, and therefore is preparing weapons more powerful and dangerous than long-range missiles. For us, the problem doubles if we take into account the isolation of our government officials from the current reality.
  9. 0
    19 September 2024 14: 30
    I won't be wrong if I say that everything that was said, done, even thought, there in Kyiv, requires a very serious attitude towards it, from everyone and everything... 75% of our problems in the SVO are a superficial and unprofessional attitude towards what was said, said, done - done and even thought in Kyiv...