Strategic Fork in the Road in Ukraine

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Strategic Fork in the Road in Ukraine


The Specter of Nuclear War


History with long-range strikes rockets NATO deep into Russian territory is far from complete. Biden and Starmer, after a meeting in the White House, still did not allow Zelensky to launch missiles into internationally recognized Russian territory.



However, there was no talk of a ban on speech at the final press conference. Potential missile strikes were not discussed at all. As Starmer later stated, they were talking about issues of a “strategic nature”. It is difficult to get into the heads of two NATO bigwigs, but there are few options – they discussed either an escalation or a ceasefire.

There is also a third option, according to which the West will continue to support the resistance of the Kyiv regime. The idea seems logical, if not for several nuances.

First, Zelensky has not learned how to use aid effectively. It is not enough even for effective defense, let alone an attack. The $60 billion allocated at the beginning of the year had a completely symbolic meaning on the battlefield. Unless, of course, you count the tactical and senseless success of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the Kursk region.

The second nuance is that the combined potential of the opponents in Ukraine is incommensurate. The industry of the West has not yet got on a military track in the full sense of the word, which means that the entire NATO bloc does not stand behind Zelensky. This has been a long and terrifying scare for the last two years. The military industry of the North Atlantic bloc was supposed to simply sweep away the Russian Army back in 2023. But it did not happen. Not ready or did not want - that is another question.

Therefore, the strategy of maintaining a "smoldering conflict" by adding fuel to the fire will only delay the defeat of the Zelensky regime. With much more serious consequences for the West. Ukraine has become a black hole devouring billions.

Zelensky, of course, disagrees with this and from time to time embarks on adventures. First, the invasion of the Kursk region, later calls to allow Storm Shadow and ATACMS strikes deep into Russia.

The Kremlin has taken the latest crossing of its red line with a cool head (for now, at least). But this may not always be the case. Zelensky needs escalation like air – otherwise, he will continue to retreat. Escalation carries the possibility of direct NATO intervention with an unpredictable outcome. This is the only way the Kiev regime can reverse the slow but sure demilitarization and denazification.

Ultimately, Biden and Starmer can be understood – the smoldering Ukraine could flare up at any moment. Just as Zelensky could become ungovernable at any moment and single-handedly trigger a nuclear apocalypse.


One of the options, as mentioned above, is to escalate the conflict. In the West, there is still an opinion that Russia will not dare to take extreme measures even after crossing the last of its red lines. This means that we can seriously consider strikes with cruise and ballistic missiles on Voronezh, Belgorod, Kursk and Bryansk. It is for these cities that Zelensky is soliciting permission to launch.

The Russian army has most likely already removed all significant military facilities from the attack. All that remains is the usual use for Kyiv weapons NATO for terrorist purposes. But the Kremlin is unusually active in warning the West about the consequences of lifting the ban. It's time to think about how Russia will actually respond. It seems that this is what Biden and Starmer discussed in the White House on September 13.

Nerves are not made of iron


If the missiles actually fly deep into Russia, the military-political leadership has a wide arsenal of countermeasures.

It is definitely impossible to ignore such terrorism from Zelensky, especially after a direct warning from Vladimir Putin. The option of a massive strike on Ukrainian infrastructure seems unimpressive. It seems that the West, Russia, and Ukraine have become accustomed to the destruction of enemy thermal and hydroelectric power plants. It is difficult to call such acts of retaliation routine, but a certain resistance to them has developed. Therefore, the response must be asymmetrical, that is, not towards Ukraine.

The Americans are very afraid for their communications cables laid along the bottom of the Atlantic. Cutting them in response to Storm Shadow in the Kursk region looks like a completely adequate retaliation.

Will this be a declaration of war on NATO countries?

They can assess it any way they want – the Supreme Commander warned of the consequences. The destruction of critical infrastructure facilities in the West will be carried out with a minimum number of victims, or without them at all, but quite noticeably. Washington and Brussels will for the first time truly leave their comfort zone in the history of their special operation.

By the way, severed Atlantic communications are not only a disrupted connection, but also a quite tangible blow to the Ukrainian Armed Forces. The efficiency and availability of intelligence information will suffer noticeably. In the same clip, there are massive cyber attacks on Western infrastructure, although they cannot be compared with the physically destroyed connection between Europe and the United States. But even after such a turn, it will be the West that will decide whether Russia has crossed the red lines or not.

Nuclear tests in the uninhabited Arctic desert or in neutral waters as a demonstration of Russia's firm intentions. This is also one of the options for a forced escalation of events. In 1961, during the Berlin crisis, Khrushchev ordered special exercises called "Rosa". Then, two thermonuclear warheads were detonated on Novaya Zemlya, which were delivered to the target by R-12 missiles.

The exercises ultimately became an important factor in softening the US position, and World War III did not happen. Of course, the US Army's Abrams and Russian T-90s are not currently facing each other at a border crossing, but nuclear exercises are quite capable of calming the enemy.


All of the above relates to scenarios of escalation of events in Ukraine. This is only one of the directions of the fork.

The second possibility is peace agreements, which have become even more illusory after the Ukrainian Armed Forces' invasion of the Kursk region. But they cannot be considered impossible. First of all, because of the political situation in the United States. We are talking about Donald Trump, who promised a quick peace between the parties in Ukraine. If the conflict is not extinguished before the November elections, then Trump's peace initiative could become his trump card. Simply because Harris has no peace plan, only a statement of unwavering support for the Banderites.

The Democratic team is hatching a plan to end the conflict by the US presidential election. The Trumpists will simply have nothing to counter with in this case. It looks like the order has already been given, and Zelensky is preparing a five-point “victory plan” that is acceptable to him. As the expired Ukrainian president said, “four of them are the main ones, plus one that we will need a little later.”

It is pointless to talk about the feasibility of the peace plan, since it concerns “security, the geopolitical position of Ukraine, very strong military support that should be available to the Banderites, and so that they have freedom in how to use certain resources.” All the details of the peaceful settlement of the conflict were announced on June 14, 2024 by President Putin, and over time, the conditions for Ukraine could not become softer.

An interesting and at the same time tragic picture of the strategic fork in the road that the special operation is approaching has emerged. Events can fall into a third world war in hundreds of ways, but there is only one option for a peaceful end. And it is not being discussed.
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  1. 0
    17 September 2024 05: 03
    At least we have already announced today - the nuclear testing ground on Novaya Zemlya is completely ready for testing, the personnel are already on site. The product, who the hell knows? bully
    1. -1
      17 September 2024 22: 35
      The nuclear weapons test should be conducted not on Novaya Zemlya, but on the Yavoriv military testing ground of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the Lviv region near the Polish border. The explosion should be powerful, ground-based and with an easterly wind.
      1. 0
        19 September 2024 18: 42
        Quote: Alexey Lantukh
        The explosion must be powerful, ground-based and with an easterly wind.

        The east (northeast) wind blows there no more than two weeks a year, and is always alternating with the west. Even in winter there are northwest or strictly north winds... from Lapland, so to speak.
        Unfortunately, you still haven't understood that Zelensky is much more dependent on the Ukrainian "people", so to speak, the corrupt oligarchs and others living nearby, than on the "West". A Ukrainian officer from the level of major and above, not seeing the logical sense in the task, will do everything to not complete it, so that a mosquito won't get its nose under it... and then suddenly Natasha was driven to the Kursk region. It's really funny.
        1. 0
          20 September 2024 10: 19
          The east (northeast) wind blows there for no more than two weeks a year,

          By the way, today, tomorrow, the day after tomorrow the winds blow from the east, northeast and southeast and no west. Yes, the western winds prevail, but not for two weeks. Here is what Wikipedia says about the climate of Lviv:
          "Average wind speeds are 3-4 m/s. Westerly winds prevail (23,3%; usually accompanied by rain, cooling in summer and thaw in winter), as well as south-easterly winds (20,9%; usually accompanied by dry weather, warming in spring and summer and frosty weather in winter)[15]. Relative humidity is high throughout the year. Fog is frequent in the cold half of the year."
          And the south-east wind is quite suitable for a nuclear strike. The cloud will go to Poland, even the Lviv region will suffer little from the cloud, not counting the destruction of the Yavoriv test site, of course.
  2. +48
    17 September 2024 05: 09
    The author misses everything. There is no "strategic fork" in Ukraine. The usual senseless (from the point of achieving victory for one of the sides) meat grinder, where some former Soviets mass-destroy other former Soviets to the accompaniment of applause from the "world community".
    The talk about the next red lines in response to missile strikes on the "old" territory of Russia and the million and first threat of a "nuclear war" does not even cause laughter. Just a tired smile. From this it follows only that the leadership of the Russian Federation itself does not consider the "new" territory of Russia (including Crimea) as such in reality.
    A peace agreement before the US elections is also impossible. The author first writes that the Democrats are allegedly preparing it for the US elections, and then in the same paragraph writes about Zelensky's "victory plan". So a victory plan or peace before the elections? Not to mention that the author mixes a peace treaty and a truce. Which is absolutely not the same thing.
    A peace treaty is already unrealistic in principle. The leadership of Maidan Ukraine will not sign any treaty that would secure their territorial losses. And the Russian Federation is not fighting against the political regime in Ukraine.
    A truce (including a long one) - yes, it is possible, but certainly not before the US elections, and the US Democratic Party, in fact, is the last one interested in its quick conclusion.
    1. -30
      17 September 2024 05: 27
      Quote: Belisarius
      The author misses everything. There is no "strategic fork" in Ukraine. The usual senseless (from the point of achieving victory for one of the sides) meat grinder, where some former Soviets mass-destroy other former Soviets to the accompaniment of applause from the "world community".

      The war with NATO is already underway! The question now is how it will all look as the conflict continues. Will NATO merge or raise the stakes? The Ukrainians are running out!
      1. +4
        17 September 2024 05: 40
        But I agree that there is no strategic fork in the road yet.
      2. +4
        17 September 2024 05: 45
        Edik, you have correctly noted - the number of 404s is limited. And the EU is not doing well with its economy - the only winners are those who are with Ukraine only in words (except Norway, but it is not in the EU, there is an opportunity to sit on two chairs), so what if Greece has a growth of more than 10%, but it is sitting on our LNG. But Germany really has problems in industrial production. Scholz thanked Tokayev for Kazakh oil, through the Druzhba pipeline through the Italian Eni. Did Scholz ask for a passport from each barrel? Who paid for pumping through Russia and Belarus.
        1. -5
          17 September 2024 05: 54
          For me NATO is the USA drinks They don't care about the satellites. Let them spin as they please.
          1. -16
            17 September 2024 06: 06
            And in the US, not everything is so smooth with the economy, some wishes will not come true, Harris wins - we are waiting for a default, by the way, it is not at all scary. As they describe it, it is "honest". lol
            1. +1
              17 September 2024 06: 36
              We are waiting for default, by the way, it is not at all scary.
              - then what are we waiting for anyway?
            2. -11
              17 September 2024 07: 36
              For those who voted down - the concept of "honest" is 30%... And 70% of the US will "forgive". Put yourself in their shoes, please understand and forgive. laughing
      3. +5
        17 September 2024 06: 09
        Quote: Edik
        Will NATO merge or raise the stakes?

        So they raised the stakes anyway. No one is answering. Only passes are coming.
      4. -2
        17 September 2024 10: 16
        Ukrainians are running out or have already run out of peaceful life in the continuation of the current century.

        And they will be enough for several years of military operations. Everything depends on the purposes of their existence.
      5. +17
        17 September 2024 12: 06
        Quote: Edik
        The war with NATO is already underway!

        Only NATO has not yet shown up for the war.
        And our authorities, our officials, don’t say that at all.
        Only pro-Kremlin media outlets have been fighting NATO for a very long time, almost since the beginning of the Cold War.
        1. -8
          17 September 2024 12: 27
          While there is a proxy war with NATO, since Russia has a triad of nuclear weapons!! Special forces, weapons, technology, logistics, specialists, intelligence, PMCs! Our soldiers are dying from this, wake up, soldier!
          1. +8
            17 September 2024 12: 34
            Edik, wake up and stop shouting. If NATO starts a war, it will no longer be today's SVO in Ukraine and with Ukraine. Even though NATO helps the latter. About the same way the USA helped the USSR with its Lend-Lease in WWII.
            1. -9
              17 September 2024 12: 54
              Quote: Vladimir-TTT
              If NATO starts a war, it will no longer be today's SVO in Ukraine and with Ukraine.

              If NATO officially introduces troops into Ukraine, then most likely there will be a nuclear war.
              Quote: Vladimir-TTT
              Approximately the same way that the USA helped the USSR with its Lend-Lease during WWII.

              It was roughly the same as how the USSR helped Vietnam in the war with the USA, and that war was called the Cold War.
              1. +3
                17 September 2024 12: 58
                Quote: Edik
                If NATO officially introduces troops into Ukraine, then most likely there will be a nuclear war.

                There will be nothing.
                They (our politicians) will come up with some kind of legal loophole to properly leak everything...
                Quote: Edik
                and that war was called cold.

                It was called the "Vietnam War", or simply the Vietnam War.
                1. -11
                  17 September 2024 13: 09
                  Quote: Vladimir-TTT
                  There will be nothing.
                  They (our politicians) will come up with some kind of legal loophole to properly leak everything...

                  Blessed is he who believes! Be glad that you are alive. I am generally surprised by people who sit and type on keyboards, that our government is such a piece of shit, does not want to send our soldiers to slaughter.
                  1. +5
                    17 September 2024 13: 39
                    Why did we start all this then? This is a war, and yes, there will be losses. Since the muscles have grown decrepit, the brains of the leaders have dried up... What should we do? Pension the decrepit, forward the proactive ones... How are we going to win? Yes, through blood and tears. Since it has come to this.
                    1. -13
                      17 September 2024 14: 02
                      Quote from: dmi.pris1
                      Then why did we start all this?

                      You didn't start anything! The army and the government did! Is it fighting poorly? Help, go to the front lines, they'll take you at any age, crooked or cross-eyed. The government is stupid? So who are you? What kind of people?
                      yours
                      success in life?
                      1. +4
                        17 September 2024 14: 21
                        You don't have to be a chef to appreciate the cuisine.
                      2. -3
                        17 September 2024 15: 13
                        You don't have to be a chef to appreciate the cuisine.

                        Not necessarily a chef, but a gourmet - yes.
                        The same goes for wine.
                        Someone who drinks vodka, appreciates only port wines and drinks sweet champagne will NEVER be able to appreciate wine.


                      3. 0
                        17 September 2024 19: 53
                        And here we have a war, since the 5th grade we have studied most of the history of wars and we know how they are conducted, what victory looks like and how defeats end.
              2. +6
                17 September 2024 15: 36
                "If NATO officially sends troops into Ukraine, then most likely there will be a nuclear war"
                NATO can easily deal with the Russian Armed Forces with conventional weapons, due to its superiority in technology and mobilization resources
            2. +5
              17 September 2024 15: 29
              Quote: Vladimir-TTT
              Approximately the same way that the USA helped the USSR with its Lend-Lease during WWII.

              The USSR received 500 (half a billion) pieces of artillery shells alone under Lend-Lease. Judging by the link -
              https://ansokolov39.livejournal.com/2302216.html
              So... -)) The current aid for the Ukrainian Armed Forces is crumbs... Half a percent of that Lend-Lease of 1941-1945.
          2. +9
            17 September 2024 14: 18
            The USSR also took part in Vietnam. No one said that the Union was fighting there.
      6. +5
        17 September 2024 13: 39
        Quote: Edik
        Will NATO merge or raise the stakes?

        Raise the stakes, of course.
      7. -1
        17 September 2024 19: 35
        We were shown how the occupation of our country will take place. People don't care about the inaction of the authorities.
    2. +2
      17 September 2024 05: 33
      No peace treaty can be signed and this is clear to everyone. The Ukrainian authorities will not agree to any concessions of their territories, and neither will we.
      1. +7
        17 September 2024 06: 46
        ...we won't go for that either.

        The Kremlin wouldn't go? The Kremlin would go, it's figuring out how to avoid being put on the people's pitchforks (figuratively).
        1. +15
          17 September 2024 07: 15
          People's pitchforks are a myth!
          There is no organized force capable of organizing an uprising. So the authorities don't have to worry about their rear.
          And a compromise with the West (temporary, of course) is possible at the expense of a third party: Belarus, for example.
          1. -1
            17 September 2024 07: 56
            a spark will start a flame
          2. +3
            17 September 2024 10: 21
            It's even worse. Even if there is some progressive organized force in Russia, the people will crush it at the first order of their superiors.
            Although he scolds the bosses themselves for no reason.

            The people always have power and it is enormous, but it is blind, like any element. And it is controlled by the organized actions of small groups.
          3. -1
            17 September 2024 13: 42
            Quote: Victor Leningradets
            So the authorities don’t have to worry about their rear.

            Well, the West has set the goal of eliminating this government, and no one will defend it in the event of capitulation.
          4. +1
            17 September 2024 19: 58
            Our country's greatest threat is those who are more patriotic than the current ruler. We've been fighting them for at least 50 years, nipping them in the bud. Some to prison, some to the next world. We probably all know their names very well.
    3. +12
      17 September 2024 07: 27
      The further we go, the more the so-called "SVO" resembles a four-handed game, when those who started it calmly watch the delivery of ammunition to the enemy, without trying to prevent it, do everything so that ordinary people quickly forget about the American missile strikes on the Crimean beaches, supply uranium to the US and metal to Europe, from which these missiles are made, daily declare their "readiness for negotiations", letting the enemy understand that even after the strike on the Kremlin dome, they are ready to "resolve" everything. So is it worth stopping at this strike?
      1. +5
        17 September 2024 09: 20
        ... declare their "readiness for negotiations" ...


        I agree. The West perceives numerous statements about readiness for negotiations as Russia’s weakness.
        The Russian Government has not severed commercial relations with its "partners". Russia still supplies raw materials to its enemies to wage war against our country.

        Some excerpts about the course of the war 1941-194.

        ...Major military operations also mean huge expenditures of fuel. Just for the German Army Group "Center", which in the autumn of 1941 began the operation to capture Moscow, 27-29 trains with fuel were needed daily...

        Commander of the 2nd Panzer Army of the Wehrmacht Heinz Guderian in the autumn of 1941:
        "The absolutely unsatisfactory state of fuel supplies turns the management of military operations into sheer torture." https://tass.ru/spec/oilvictory

        "...In the summer offensive of 1942, A. Hitler and his generals, despite their defeat in the Battle of Moscow, expected to defeat the entire southern flank of the Soviet front and secure access to the Volga and the Caucasus. The German army needed the natural resources of the southern regions of the USSR - bread, oil, various minerals. Having completed this task, A. Hitler hoped to inflict a decisive defeat on the Red Army and ensure the successful conduct of the war on a global scale for many years..." https://may9.ru/history/articles/bitva_za_kavkaz/


        Modern Russia itself supplies strategic raw materials to its enemies.
        Ukrainian equipment is driving through Russian territory and killing our soldiers. There is a very high probability that IT is running on "fuel" from Russian oil.

        Given such facts, how can the West believe in the seriousness of the Russian side’s intentions?
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    5. +6
      17 September 2024 11: 20
      As for the fork in the road, I agree, there is none. The agenda is to continue the war, the dancers themselves do not feel sorry for themselves, and the Anglo-Saxons especially do not care. "There are many Pedros in Brazil." But I cannot understand why optimistic authors so deny the success of the dancers in the Kursk region?! I can understand when this is denied by state television with trained talking heads. But in independent communication? Let's not turn off the ostrich and look at things objectively.
    6. -2
      17 September 2024 16: 59
      The article is interesting, the pessimism of the comments is obvious. Not everyone thinks so
      https://rutube.ru/video/a66f4eb448a5735a1962d8cd7e67cbc9/?r=plwd
  3. -11
    17 September 2024 05: 23
    The Western leadership may be big scoundrels, but they are not madmen. Everyone wants to live, and they clearly do not want to bring things to a nuclear war. I am sure that Putin was not bluffing this time about responding to NATO missile strikes deep into the country. Yes, unfortunately, the previous numerous statements by our diplomats about "red lines" ultimately resulted in us being openly laughed at as bluffing impotents. And people eventually began to think about "deals", "betrayal" and the like.
    1. +19
      17 September 2024 05: 40
      Quote: Jose
      I'm sure Putin this time I wasn't bluffing

      How do you determine which one is this time and which one is not?
      1. -22
        17 September 2024 05: 45
        By the way, he wasn't bluffing before either. The comrades from the Foreign Ministry were bluffing about the red lines. With their inept statements, they were making the country look like a caricature of an impotent man. And here he himself declared an inevitable response to such actions.
        Do you think Putin is stupid? Do you think Putin is a coward? I don't think so.
        1. +19
          17 September 2024 05: 48
          Quote: Jose
          The comrades from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs were bluffing about the red lines. With their inept statements, they were presenting the country as a caricature of impotent. And here he himself declared an inevitable response

          Actually, Putin himself spoke about red lines. Have you forgotten already?
          1. -16
            17 September 2024 05: 50
            Please remind me, I personally don't remember this. Yes, I heard it from Lavrov and Ryabkov and Peskov, but I don't remember it from Putin himself.
            1. +6
              17 September 2024 05: 59
              Quote: Jose
              Remind please

              And you type the query into the search engine. And you will get the most complete result. It is easy to do.
              1. -11
                17 September 2024 06: 02
                In any case, such strikes are already beyond the pale and this is also a direct threat to his own life (look at the maps of the flight range of these missiles, Moscow also falls into these circles)
                1. +2
                  17 September 2024 15: 48
                  "In any case, such blows are already beyond the pale and this is also a direct threat to his own life (look at the cards)"
                  You don't have to worry about him. He sits far and deep, not in an office in the Kremlin.
                  1. 0
                    19 September 2024 20: 46
                    Are his confidants, friends and relatives also in the bunker? Absolutely not. And the bunker is not a panacea against concrete-piercing ammunition. And he does not live in the bunker 24 hours a day. He goes and flies out to many places.
                    1. 0
                      21 September 2024 15: 30
                      "Are his close associates, friends and relatives also in the bunker? Absolutely not."
                      absolutely right! They have been seeking refuge beyond the borders of our homeland for a long time now
                      "It goes and flies to many places."
                      yeah, I opened a metro station, it's not far from the bunker laughingand we are not talking about his friends, but specifically about him. and for him they will make a bunker that is necessary, Rotenberg himself will dig, the hero of labor. naturally, on a competitive basis
                      1. 0
                        22 September 2024 00: 19
                        Yesterday I was touring military-industrial complex enterprises in St. Petersburg.
                        Absolutely wrong! The Hague "tribunal" awaits them in the West. But when the country starts to collapse, Putin and his entourage will have nowhere to run. Neither the Chinese, nor the Iranians, nor the North Koreans will accept them.
                      2. 0
                        23 September 2024 19: 40
                        "The Hague "tribunal" awaits them in the West."
                        Who? Putin's relatives? His daughters with their husbands and children? His ex-wife? Why is that? They have nothing to do with the Russian Armed Forces laughing , Donbass is not being conquered, once again - why?
            2. -5
              17 September 2024 06: 20
              24.02.2022

              “Now a few important, very important words for those who may be tempted from the outside to intervene in the events taking place. Whoever tries to interfere with us, and even more so create threats to our country, to our people, should know that Russia’s response will be immediate and will lead you to consequences that you have never encountered in your history. We are ready for any development of events. All necessary decisions in this regard have been made. I hope that I will be heard."
            3. +6
              17 September 2024 07: 02
              Quote: Jose
              Remind please

              Putin has spoken about red lines more than once. And even about a red line! There is both video and text. For example, from the address to the Federal Assembly:

              "The Russian Federation will quickly, harshly and asymmetrically respond to provocations that threaten our security, and their organizers will regret it.

              I hope it doesn't occur to anyone to switch red line in relation to Russia. And where it will take place - we will determine this in each specific case ourselves."

              He also said that the West is crossing these red lines. And that we simply have nowhere to retreat.
            4. +13
              17 September 2024 07: 18
              But isn't citizen Peskov "a mouthpiece" for Putin? Or do you really think that Peskov can spout any "nonsense" and still remain in office?
          2. +2
            18 September 2024 00: 34
            Quote: Stas157
            Quote: Jose
            The comrades from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs were bluffing about the red lines. With their inept statements, they were presenting the country as a caricature of impotent. And here he himself declared an inevitable response

            Actually, Putin himself spoke about red lines. Have you forgotten already?

            Someone also promised to put his hands on the rails if the retirement age is raised)) But really, why was it necessary to rob the country and fill the purse in order to burn in a nuclear meat grinder? We have nothing to lose except our chains...
        2. +3
          17 September 2024 09: 13
          He is not stupid, and not a coward. It's just natural... He grew old.
          1. +1
            17 September 2024 10: 03
            He is a liberal. A lawyer to the core. That's why there is SVO, but not war. That's why there are promises, agreements and other nonsense.
        3. +2
          17 September 2024 11: 24
          The entire government in the country is weak. They grab the opposition by the gills and throw them in jail for many years just for words. Discrediting, they say. No, there are normal guys, but they are clearly in the minority. That's why all these red lines have become a laughing stock for the whole world, including the dancers.
    2. +3
      17 September 2024 14: 10
      Quote: Jose
      I am sure that Putin was not bluffing this time about responding to NATO missile strikes deep into the country.

      Where does such confidence come from? The last 2,5 years have convinced me of the opposite.
  4. +9
    17 September 2024 05: 33
    Harris has no peace plan. The Democratic team is developing a plan to end the conflict by the US presidential elections.
    It is because of such contradictions that almost the entire article, seasoned with red lines and fantasies, is called analytics.
    1. +14
      17 September 2024 08: 49
      Comrade Fedorov was clearly bitten by comrade Staver. Both are bringing something strange to the masses.
      1. +4
        17 September 2024 09: 59
        Almost every author of the "analytics" section has been bitten by the "propaganda vampire" wassat
        1. -1
          17 September 2024 15: 06
          An offer you can't refuse?
      2. +1
        17 September 2024 15: 05
        And both of them - comrade Skomorokhov. Sometimes it seems to me that they are one and the same person.
  5. +1
    17 September 2024 05: 34
    Therefore, the answer must be asymmetrical, that is, not about Ukraine.

    Do at least something that is really noticeably painful for the Anglo-Saxons...there's only chatter in the Kremlin about this.
    1. -14
      17 September 2024 07: 35
      Have you ever thought that Russia not losing in 2023 means something?
      And the fact that heavy industry is being restored. Or, martial law has not been declared in the country.
      Isn't this a thorn in their side?
      The road will be mastered by the one who walks it. There is no need for our enemies to guess our next steps.
      1. +6
        17 September 2024 10: 43
        Have you ever thought that the lack of capitulation of Ukraine in 2022 is a defeat for Russia? That the very fact of open support for the Armed Forces of Ukraine is a completely trampled image of the Russian Federation, which will also need to be restored. And by armed means too. And on the way we need to run.
        1. -1
          17 September 2024 20: 22
          I didn't think so and I don't think so.
          If you want to flood the fields of 404 with our blood, then you are playing into the hands of our enemies.
          Yes, it is not easy, but the winnings we receive simply infuriate the Anglo-Saxons.
          This is a true indicator of the correctness of the path.
          As an example, if we occupied the entire 404 in 2022, we would have received a negatively minded territory. And now a significant part of the population is helping us and waiting for liberation from Ze. Re-educating the brains is the same task that cannot be solved by your onslaught.
          1. -2
            18 September 2024 08: 07
            Did I suggest a quick solution? There was a suggestion above:
            Do something that is really tangibly painful for the Anglo-Saxons.

            That's where we need to hit. And not in Ukraine, there are many options. I know that people's mood is negative now, because someone's son, brother and husband were killed. Or just a friend. Our ruling elites need to have their brains re-trained, so that all their energy can be directed towards countering the Anglo-Saxons and other ghouls. And I repeat, it shouldn't be in Ukraine. It will hurt them more that way.
        2. 0
          3 October 2024 06: 19
          Quote: a.shlidt
          Have you ever thought that the lack of capitulation by Ukraine in 2022 is a defeat for Russia?

          The SVO has already justified only Chubais's flight from Russia. And how many more such parasites have fled Russia since the SVO began?
    2. +9
      17 September 2024 09: 40
      You do this and that, don’t misbehave, otherwise, for example, Mr. Zolotov is already afraid for his grandson at the English school. laughing
      1. +6
        17 September 2024 10: 01
        Hands off the grandson and Karl #3 drinks
  6. +8
    17 September 2024 05: 37
    The destruction of critical infrastructure in the West will be carried out... Washington and Brussels will truly leave their comfort zone for the first time

    Has the West responded somehow for the flows, for Moscow, for the long-range weapons that have already been delivered? Why? What makes you think that the red lines will work this time?
    1. -11
      17 September 2024 07: 37
      And are you not considering the exodus of the West from part of Africa?
      1. +12
        17 September 2024 07: 41
        Quote: B-15
        And are you not considering the exodus of the West from part of Africa?

        No.
        1. 0
          17 September 2024 20: 28
          No wonder France and Germany just went crazy.
          And the Americans are setting their protégés on states that do not want to see them on their territory.
          Take a closer look. Maybe you'll see it.
          And this is just one example.
  7. +18
    17 September 2024 05: 54
    . All the details of the peaceful settlement of the conflict were announced on June 14, 2024 by President Putin, and over time, the conditions for it for Ukraine couldn't get softer.

    Never happened before? Let me remind you. Before the operation began, there were some demands. And literally a month later, at the peace talks in Istanbul, there were already others.
    Turbo patriots have a short memory.
  8. +8
    17 September 2024 06: 23
    The word "fork" is most likely applicable to how the SVO is proceeding. There, in our Donbass and in the border area with Ukraine, our soldiers and civilians are dying, our cities and villages are being destroyed, and here, from Vladivostok to St. Petersburg, all sorts of summits and forums are thundering, at which no one even thinks that while they are "summitting" and drinking champagne, in Donbass and near Kursk and Belgorod, on the same Russian soil as St. Petersburg and Vladivostok, the enemy has been invading Russia for more than a year. And how the nightlife thunders in the clubs and pubs in Moscow and St. Petersburg, in Sochi and Yekaterinburg! What kind of entertainment programs and films under the leadership of Ernst-Baskov-Lazarev are shown on all TV channels to all corners of the country, including Donbass and Kursk with Belgorod, that is, there on the same Russian soil where soldiers and civilians are dying, where enemy missiles and shells are destroying our cities and villages. That's where the fork in the road occurred. Can you imagine the dancing and banquets in the entire USSR not occupied by the Germans during the Great Patriotic War, until Kursk and Donbass were liberated? That's when the fork in the road didn't exist!
    1. +1
      17 September 2024 07: 42
      I agree with you, a fork in the road. To stand up for a mortal fight - for our grandfathers such a proposal would have seemed inappropriate. They were already standing at full height. A fight for life. The case when fate and the Motherland are one. And on the TV, the successful work of the MLRS, the capture of New York, a fashionable sentence and great life.
    2. 0
      17 September 2024 14: 16
      Quote: north 2
      There was no fork in the road back then!

      Then there was the "bloody" Stalin and the "totalitarian" USSR.
    3. 0
      17 September 2024 15: 08
      Even at the front there were concerts and films were shown.
    4. +1
      17 September 2024 20: 05
      how the nightlife in Moscow's clubs and pubs is booming
      and it would seem that after the crocus, where not the poorest people died, which is owned by a big oligarch, it would be time to wake up. But no, the authorities are not going to come to their senses and will pour out from all the cracks that everything is under control, relax
  9. +2
    17 September 2024 06: 28
    The new century has been marked by a mad attack on the human mind. Like drug addiction, people have begun to be immersed in an abstract world. Fear has not gone away. But this is fear only for one's life. Egoism has become an integral feature of a developed society. If earlier ordinary people heard from high officials thoughts that were an order of magnitude more reasonable than their own, now much has changed. This is the main feature of modern civilization. The search for common goals has been lost. Everyone is only interested in their own. No one wants to be higher in intelligence than an enemy. Being an example for others in a cultural or moral line is also undesirable. Consumption is insatiable.
    1. +6
      17 September 2024 06: 38
      Quote: Nikolay Malyugin
      Egoism has become an integral feature of developed society.

      Egoism was an integral feature of capitalism. The particular is above the general. Under socialism it is the opposite: the general is above the particular.
    2. +7
      17 September 2024 08: 52
      Consumption is insatiable
      This is capitalism, not a world of pink ponies.
    3. +2
      17 September 2024 20: 08
      You know, egoism existed before. For a selfish purpose - so that the enemies wouldn't reach my native village and kill my entire family - people volunteered. Somehow the interests of the state and the citizen coincided.
  10. +1
    17 September 2024 06: 45
    I don't care about the fork in the road and Ukraine, but what seriously worries me and is clearly visible to the naked eye is the lack of operational reserves in Russia. I can't say anything about strategic reserves, but it seems that not everything is in order there either.
  11. +12
    17 September 2024 06: 50
    When discussing such articles, remember that gas comes to Ukraine from Russia. Metal for missile production is supplied to America
    1. +10
      17 September 2024 08: 17
      Quote: Gardamir
      Metal for rocket production is supplied to America

      Uranium also goes there...
    2. +6
      17 September 2024 08: 49
      All the media are writing about the increased supplies of strategic resources from Russia to the collective West, even on VO they wrote about it in the news, but you are getting minuses...like it’s not true. smile
  12. +9
    17 September 2024 08: 23
    then Trump's peace initiative could become his trump card
    Oh well, there were two attempts on his life, it would be funny if he loses the election after that. As if ordinary Americans are concerned about the conflict in Ukraine... They were concerned about the American-Vietnamese war.
    The Americans are very afraid for their communications cables laid along the bottom of the Atlantic. Cut them in retaliation for Storm Shadow
    And how are you going to chop it? However, this topic should be proposed to Mitrofanov, he will think of how..
    but there is only one option for a peaceful ending.
    Author, you understand that all of Ukraine will not become part of the Russian Federation, even if the entire world, including the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, recognizes the annexed territories as Russian. And again, the SVO? Until complete annexation?
    1. -1
      17 September 2024 20: 16
      Author, you understand that all of Ukraine will not become part of the Russian Federation, even if the entire world, including the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, recognizes the annexed territories as Russian. And again, the SVO? Until complete annexation?
      I don't understand why people think that this is all because of Ukraine and that if we divide this piece of land the size of Madagascar, everything in the world will be fixed? We are now more likely at the stage of fighting for Lake Khasan and are squeezing the enemy out of our territory, and the fact that the enemies are adopting plans for long-term military planning, mobilizing the population of all sorts of not very lucky countries like Finland, the Philippines, Korea or Britain is all nonsense? A world war is practically inevitable, the West really wants it, they are just not ready yet, but they are actively preparing, and only the suicide of all the enemies of the USA can prevent it, so that they don't waste missiles.
      1. 0
        18 September 2024 19: 41
        Not very lucky countries like Finland, Philippines, Korea or Britain...

        Well done! You washed away the losers!
        1. 0
          18 September 2024 19: 56
          I called the countries that are openly being prepared for slaughter the second echelon. The US defined them as losers request
  13. -6
    17 September 2024 09: 06
    All that's left is to hit him in the face. In the impudent, red-haired, Anglo-Saxon face.
  14. +2
    17 September 2024 11: 11
    The use of nuclear weapons (even for testing) is a signal that one of the parties is not capable of coping with conventional weapons.
    Well, it was clear from the start that Russia is weaker than the collective West. That's why nuclear weapons were invented, to force the parties to stop in the face of mutually unacceptable damage.
  15. +3
    17 September 2024 11: 16
    Therefore, the strategy of maintaining a "smoldering conflict" by adding fuel to the fire will only delay the defeat of the Zelensky regime. With much more serious consequences for the West. Ukraine has become a black hole devouring billions.

    Somehow this is doubtful. It doesn't matter that the Central Bank of the Russian Federation rate has been growing for over a year and is already 19%. We are being fed noodles that the economy is OVERHEATING. But I am tormented by vague doubts. And another main question. HOW can we engage in production with such credit rates? Without production, the deficit of goods and services increases, which means an acceleration of inflation. And this acceleration is stifled by raising the rate. The circle is closed. Attention question: How long can we run in this circle? At the same time, China is importing less and less of its goods to us, and does not even accept all of its Yuan, dividing them into clean and dirty. Oil is hitting rock bottom again, and is trading below 60 bucks per barrel. Is the author absolutely sure that this is how we will come to victory?
    If the missiles actually fly deep into Russia, the military-political leadership has a wide arsenal of countermeasures.

    Are you serious?
    The Americans are very afraid for their communications cables laid along the bottom of the Atlantic. Cutting them in response to Storm Shadow in the Kursk region looks like a completely adequate retaliation.

    Mdasss... Cutting off their fiber optics in response to the death of our citizens is, of course, the height of strategic genius. This should have been done in response to the explosion of the gas pipeline, and even that would not have been an adequate response. Because repairing a gas pipeline is much longer and more expensive and technologically more difficult than repairing a fiber optic cable. Repair of such a cable is carried out by ONE specialized ship within a maximum of a week. Only deep-water rupture areas can cause difficulties. But they still need to be torn there. And the Westerners have their own deep-water equipment for such repair tasks.
    Why write such bravura articles that are very sad to read. Akin to watching a mountain of mice give birth. negative
  16. +7
    17 September 2024 12: 35
    Looking at the past 2,5 years of war, it will be like this: Ukraine and NATO will pound our cities with cruise missiles, Zakharova will scream on TV, Medvedev will write an angry post on Telegram, Nebenzya will complain to the UN. The asses will burn in the Telegram comments, and then it will become as much a given as drone strikes on Russian cities.
    It is 100%
  17. +6
    17 September 2024 12: 46
    Why the Strategic Fork in Ukraine? If the Russian leadership has no will to make a political decision on Ukraine, then all other statements and slogans are a bluff. Who and what are they going to scare with, a straw man, if nuclear weapons are never used. Compradors, kneeling, kissing the hand and begging for mercy from the master, how can they scare the masters???
  18. +4
    17 September 2024 12: 52
    Quote: Jose
    By the way, he wasn't bluffing before either. The comrades from the Foreign Ministry were bluffing about the red lines. With their inept statements, they were making the country look like a caricature of an impotent man. And here he himself declared an inevitable response to such actions.
    Do you think Putin is stupid? Do you think Putin is a coward? I don't think so.

    I advise you to refresh your memory and watch Putin's morning broadcast at the beginning of your time. And what did he say there: "No one should have any doubts that a direct attack on our country will lead to defeat and terrible consequences for any potential aggressor."
    1. +2
      17 September 2024 14: 26
      Quote: Vladislav Markov_2
      I advise you to refresh your memory and watch Putin's morning broadcast at the beginning of your time. And what did he say there: "No one should have any doubts that a direct attack on our country will lead to defeat and terrible consequences for any potential aggressor."

      Recently, on some federal channel, this very performance was cited as an example that there will be retribution. The rules about swearing do not allow me to write what I thought when I saw this.
  19. +2
    17 September 2024 13: 10
    In reality, while the US/NATO supports Ukraine, it will not give a real victory to the Russian Federation. Only a truce for how many years, how long Putin will live.
    1. -2
      17 September 2024 14: 48
      It is possible to take this victory without asking the US and NATO. But for this, big and serious changes are needed inside, we need to become more effective and then nothing is impossible for us
  20. 0
    17 September 2024 14: 16
    Trump promised to end the conflict by crashing oil prices.
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  22. +1
    17 September 2024 14: 47
    I'm already fed up with this security with its eternal "just a little bit more and the Ukrainian army will fall apart." Something is not falling apart, there are no breakthroughs of the front (on our side), there are no mass surrenders or escapes, meat is steadily supplied to the front.
    It's time to understand that the higher powers have a plan that we won't win until we change inside. Until they start sending idiot bosses into assaults, until they start listening to junior command staff when planning operations, until we start producing drones exclusively on our own and in unrealistically large quantities, until we have high-quality communications, until, until, until... a lot of things until. Until then, it will be this push-pull. They'll throw them weapons, they'll catch people, you can be sure of that.
  23. +1
    17 September 2024 14: 49
    It has been said many times already - everything is decided overseas, and this situation is beneficial to them there, so there is no end in sight. As long as they earn political and economic bonuses in comfort - nothing will change
  24. +2
    17 September 2024 15: 29
    The author made the desired, but rash conclusion that NATO is currently unprepared to “sweep away the Russian army,” allegedly due to the lagging industry of the bloc’s countries.
    Meanwhile, it is known that arms supplies to Ukraine have been and continue to be supplied almost exclusively using old Soviet equipment that NATO collects under the former Warsaw Pact, diluted with decommissioned equipment from NATO countries.
    This indicates NOT ONLY that the war is being waged by Ukraine practically WITHOUT the involvement of the US and NATO military industry.
    This also indicates that the US/UK are not yet using in any way in these deliveries the weapons they have accumulated in warehouses in Europe and the new warehouses created since 2018 near our borders.
    The US created similar warehouses before the invasion of Iraq, and I think that even now they are storing something other than air in the warehouses near our borders.
    Thus, the author’s rosy picture of the unpreparedness of the US/Great Britain and NATO for a war to destroy Russia “by proxy” falls apart.
    All events currently taking place on the fronts must be linked to the probable plan currently being implemented by the USA/Great Britain in this war they have already started.
    1. +1
      17 September 2024 19: 49
      Quote: Alexey Davydov
      All events currently taking place on the fronts must be linked to the probable plan currently being implemented by the USA/Great Britain in this war they have already started.

      Isn't it logical for them to enter the war right now? Or a year ago?
      Quote: Alexey Davydov
      Meanwhile, it is known that arms supplies to Ukraine have been and continue to be supplied almost exclusively using old Soviet equipment that NATO collects under the former Warsaw Pact, diluted with decommissioned equipment from NATO countries.

      I agree with this completely..
      and thirdly - WHY would NATO fight us at all? For what? Not to mention the strategic nuclear forces, which one way or another, sooner or later we will have to use in the event of their direct attack.. WHY would they need this? Just specifically - what bonus would they get from the attack that would outweigh all the minuses?
      1. 0
        17 September 2024 19: 59
        Yes, it is logical for them to enter the war right now, which is what they did at Kursk, creating their first theater of military operations from those they had planned. They needed Ukraine only to kindle and destroy with our hands the second Slavic people, who had defeated their previous plan in WW2.
        The reason for the necessity of destroying our people, appropriating our territory and resources lies in the geopolitical plans of the Anglo-Saxons, which probably provide for the final solution of the Russian question, the weakening of Europe by our hands and its transformation into our industrial appendage, the creation of our own bridgehead in Eurasia for further expansion into China.
        1. +1
          17 September 2024 20: 53
          Quote: Alexey Davydov
          The reason for the necessity of destroying our people, appropriating our territory and resources lies in the geopolitical plans of the Anglo-Saxons, which probably provide for the final solution of the Russian question, the weakening of Europe by our hands and its transformation into our industrial appendage, the creation of our own bridgehead in Eurasia for further expansion into China.

          and what they can’t do without directly entering into conflict?
          1. -1
            17 September 2024 21: 09
            The USA/Great Britain decided to destroy us and free our territory from us. We ourselves do not disappear and do not want to be destroyed. This means that a war is needed to destroy us.
            However, you need to shed your blood in it.
            If they had agreed to this, they would have destroyed us back in 1991.
            In order to do this with someone else's blood, they need to design and build a war in Europe. To do this, they have developed and implemented a combination involving functionaries of states subordinate to them, including Russia and Ukraine. Now the second stage of this plan is underway - their involvement of the countries of Europe and Japan in the destruction of Russia.
            This is how I see it.
          2. 0
            17 September 2024 21: 20
            The US/UK are interested in us never having to face them until the end. It is we who need to face them to force them to retreat. You cannot win by avoiding confrontation with the enemy.
            1. +1
              17 September 2024 22: 43
              Quote: Level 2 Advisor
              the necessity of destroying our people, appropriating our territory and resources lies in the geopolitical plans of the Anglo-Saxons, which probably provide for the final solution of the Russian question, the weakening of Europe by our hands and its transformation into their industrial appendage,

              1. Is destruction going on? It's going on both in war and without war - more people are dying out. 2. The territory as such is not needed, they don't suffer from overpopulation - and it's not really suitable for life, but the resources - yes... and they are going to them? They are going, on terms that suit them perfectly. 3. Is the EU weakening? It is weakening in every way.
              that's why I asked -
              Quote: Level 2 Advisor
              and what they can’t do without directly entering into conflict?

              so basically I agree with you on almost everything..
              except for the thought that they themselves might enter the war - they don't need it in the current reality... they don't need it at all... the system works anyway...
              1. -1
                18 September 2024 08: 04
                1. As long as we live on earth and want to return to the previous state of the world, which many still remember, they will not have peace. They still remember how they hid under their school desks during the lessons of "Nuclear War with the Russians."
                2. They need our territory to create their branch in Eurasia on our resources. As for the climate, it does not bother them in Canada. People live in Iceland too.
                3. The war with us and the destruction of us and Ukrainians brings them great profit, for this reason they will continue it and expand it. When we are completely in their hands, they will dispose of us. Lampshades made of human skin from the time of WW2 will not give them such a benefit as free organs for transplantation to the chosen ones during the radical reduction of the planet's population at the expense of "inferior peoples".
                4. They don't necessarily need a total war like WW2, but they do need to conduct military operations. Another thing is that they can stretch it out for a long time, biting off pieces and "anesthetizing" the country with the hands of the comprador government and the media subordinate to them.
                1. 0
                  18 September 2024 12: 51
                  Quote: Alexey Davydov
                  1. As long as we live on earth and want to return to the previous state of the world, which many still remember, they will not have peace. They still remember how they hid under their school desks during the lessons of "Nuclear War with the Russians."
                  2. They need our territory to create their branch in Eurasia on our resources. As for the climate, it does not bother them in Canada. People live in Iceland too.
                  3. The war with us and the destruction of us and Ukrainians brings them great profit, for this reason they will continue it and expand it. When we are completely in their hands, they will dispose of us. Lampshades made of human skin from the time of WW2 will not give them such a benefit as free organs for transplantation to the chosen ones during the radical reduction of the planet's population at the expense of "inferior peoples".
                  4. They don't necessarily need a total war like WW2, but they do need to conduct military operations. Another thing is that they can stretch it out for a long time, biting off pieces and "anesthetizing" the country with the hands of the comprador government and the media subordinate to them.

                  Quote: Alexey Davydov
                  5. The US/UK themselves, if they enter the war, will only do so to finish us off and keep the spoils for themselves. While it is possible, they will hide behind Ukraine, and as necessary, they will expose the faces of NATO countries in the war.

                  1. It sounds more like "we live on earth and as long as we want to return to the previous state of the world, which many still remember, they will not have peace", the new post-USSR generations no longer really want something like this - they have not yet developed a sense of a Great country... and with each year (if the current state of affairs continues) these desires will be less and less...
                  2. territory is no longer really needed by anyone, those times are gone.. now resources, influence and money are needed.. and they can easily set up an "office" in Kazakhstan or Georgia or anywhere else.. in the modern world - distances are relative, this is not under Catherine II, when it took a month to travel from Kherson to St. Petersburg and information had to be sent by messengers..
                  3. I generally agree
                  4. I also agree
                  5. for now and without NATO countries at all - everything is according to plan for them... I am sure that NATO will not directly join - they have absolutely no need for it...
                  and you know... if point 1 is excluded, they don't really need the rest... if these thoughts and ideas leave the majority of the people, we are not dangerous to them... and they leave every year, along with those who remember the great country...
              2. -1
                18 September 2024 08: 09
                5. The US/UK themselves, if they enter the war, will only do so to finish us off and keep the spoils for themselves. While it is possible, they will hide behind Ukraine, and as necessary, they will expose the faces of NATO countries in the war.
  25. 0
    17 September 2024 15: 45
    I think that the gradual nature of the war that the US/UK are waging against us through their slaves is not due to a lack of weapons, but to the desire to maintain Russia's current carefree state as long as possible, using the commercial interests of its elite for this purpose. What is happening increasingly reminds me of organ harvesting under anesthesia. And the US and UK themselves are leading this process.
  26. 0
    18 September 2024 00: 36
    Quote: Alexey Davydov
    I think that the gradual nature of the war that the US/UK are waging against us through their slaves is not due to a lack of weapons, but to the desire to maintain Russia's current carefree state as long as possible, using the commercial interests of its elite for this purpose. What is happening increasingly reminds me of organ harvesting under anesthesia. And the US and UK themselves are leading this process.

    The banal destruction of the Slavs, who do not bend and do not lie down under them... It has ALWAYS been like this!
  27. -1
    18 September 2024 02: 49
    Therefore, the strategy of maintaining a "smoldering conflict" by adding fuel to the fire will only delay the defeat of the Zelensky regime. With much more serious consequences for the West. Ukraine has become a black hole devouring billions.

    Regarding "more serious consequences for the West" I laughed...
    "Ukraine has become a black hole devouring billions" - you are looking at it with one eye! laughing
    Billions are being devoured here too - plus hundreds of thousands of refugees who have lost everything and received 10 thousand each for resettlement, and losses of hundreds (???) thousands more killed and maimed. This is for 2,5 years of "smoldering".
    And what if it continues to smolder for another five years?
    As the Jews say, "Thank God for taking money" - but this is not about us, this is about the West.
  28. 0
    18 September 2024 04: 27
    Why can't they start shooting down the satellites used to guide them in response to the use of missiles? There must be a legitimate target. If they are afraid to shoot them down directly, then they can say something like "unsuccessful tests of anti-satellite weapons, something went wrong."
  29. 0
    18 September 2024 19: 18
    Tactical and senseless success of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the Kursk region...

    The main thing is to believe in it yourself.
  30. 0
    19 September 2024 01: 28
    Why test it? Maybe just use it right away? There are a ton of targets!
  31. 0
    21 September 2024 08: 18
    Quote: Level 2 Advisor
    1. Is destruction going on? It's going on both in war and without war - more people are dying out. 2. The territory as such is not needed, they don't suffer from overpopulation - and it's not really suitable for life, but the resources - yes... and they are going to them? They are going, on terms that suit them perfectly. 3. Is the EU weakening? It is weakening in every way.


    1. Russia is increasing its population.
    2. Territory is exactly what is needed. Climate change increases the suitability of our territory, but in the US, for example, rising temperatures lead to the onset of deserts and climate aridization. Plus, Russia is abundantly supplied with such an irreplaceable resource as clean fresh water. In the US, in some states (California), there are already problems with this.
    The West is generally not satisfied with the conditions for access to Russian resources.
    3. The weakening of the EU is not so advantageous for the US in the long term. The EU is the most valuable market for American products (China is moving away from this role, mutual trade will continue to fall). The impoverishment of the EU will lead to a fall in solvent demand, which is a minus.
  32. 0
    22 September 2024 06: 29
    I don't know why everyone is so fixated on underwater cables. They can be cut, but what will be the effect? ​​Ordinary people all over the world, including the "global south", will go crazy and curse Russia because of the internet failures. And Western industry, banks and the military won't feel anything - for them the channels are reserved and they don't need much traffic. In short, it's a kind of shot in the foot.
    IMO, a more sensible proposal is to attack the NATO reconnaissance satellite group. This would seriously undermine the intelligence potential of NATO and the Ukrainian Armed Forces, and would have a major impact on the course of the conflict. Another possible target is the British oil platforms in the North Sea. And the pipelines from them. Since the Brit barks the loudest, let her get it first. Especially since the economy there is already in trouble.
  33. +1
    23 September 2024 12: 34
    The unwillingness and inability of our leadership to sternly warn the Anglo-Saxons and the Ukrainians about possible specific, harsh actions by the Russian Federation is costing us dearly. And the inability to respond to the "harm" caused by the Russian Federation is evidence of the weak political will of our leadership.