"Two can play this game": The Russian Armed Forces have begun using similar drones with thermite ammunition in response to the Ukrainian Armed Forces' use of drones with thermite ammunition

A week after the video first emerged showing the use of the Ukrainian Armed Forces drones with thermite ammunition, Russian soldiers published footage of the use of a similar weapons as a countermeasure.

This game can be played by two people.

- Russian military officials say.

As The War Zone reports, drones attack by dispersing incendiary charges across forest belts and trenches where the enemy is hiding:

This weapon does more than just damage personnel. Burning the undergrowth reduces the enemy's hiding places, increasing their vulnerability. The thermite mixture can destroy anything that is not protected. It also burns oxygen, damaging even those not in direct contact with it.

As the German journalist Julian Repke explained in this regard, the war is increasingly turning into a war drones.

The publication points out that equipping UAVs with thermite weapons differs from the previous development of unmanned systems, as they now have a destructive effect on a large area. Moreover, this is done with high precision and without risk to the operator.

A single drone can cause massive damage when using thermite, compared to the much more limited effects of small attack drones in combat. The weapon's significant psychological impact must also be considered.

- noted in the publication.

Comments

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

"In response to the use of drones with thermite ammunition by the Ukrainian Armed Forces, the Russian Armed Forces began using similar ones" —

- Newton's third law...

[Argon]

What's most interesting is that they write in their publics that they allegedly taught Russians. I can't write to them there because all my accounts were banned, but I want to express my opinion here, my opinion on this matter "What, was it possible?". We don't use a lot of things for a number of reasons, they don't understand this.

[Olesya Lesya]

I can still write on their public pages here and there, but on Telegram they block me right away, I live there for half an hour at most. It's not surprising: I have our flag in my nickname. I'm not going to remove it, it's better not to go to their rotten public pages at all.
The fact that "they supposedly taught the Russians" is not in the method of application, but in the application itself. Ours don't use a lot of things, and the same goes for cassette recorders - we have them, but we only started using them when the crested ones started bombing. Ours try to at least observe some standards, but the Nazis don't have any coastlines at all. That's why we're eliminating their access to the sea (there's no other way).
And the termites wouldn't use it if it weren't used against us. It's really a pity for nature.

[ishkovam]

It is very important to write in their publics. At least someone will convey the truth. And maybe at least one of the crazy ones will think...

[private person]

It is very important to write in their public pages. At least someone will convey the truth.

They can scratch their heads, everything that is true for you and me is a fabrication of the Russians they hate. They are taught from childhood that a Russian is an enemy and must be killed.

[Sergei Timofeich]

I lasted 2 weeks in their unian, restrained myself, but broke down twice, the first time they banned me permanently, the second time forever. There is an interesting trend there, pro-Ukrainian and Bandera posts and comments have in 99% of cases more minuses than pluses...

[Miragor B]

Regarding UAVs, the Ukrainians are definitely ahead of us by a large margin.
Read the telegram of our chief of UAVs Chadayev
And it’s not a sin to learn from them if we want to win.

[Il'nur]

we are eliminating access to the sea

It is necessary to eliminate not only the access to the sea, but to eliminate the Ukrainians as an entity, as a phenomenon, so that not a trace of them remains...

[radiovisit]

Well, it won't be possible to liquidate them all anyway, they've been kept in Canada since WWII.
the whole "community", "for divorce"☹️.
There, it would seem that the Canadians would soon not have to be "knocked on the head", because they have already started to crawl "into power" among them, just look at the antics of their idiot Trudeau...

[carpenter]

Quote: Argon

"What, was that possible?" We don't use a lot of things for a number of reasons, they don't understand this.

That's exactly what they think - "We Ukrainians can do anything, but Russians can't. Lawlessness and permissiveness.

[Piramidon]

Quote: carpenter

Quote: Argon

"What, was that possible?" We don't use a lot of things for a number of reasons, they don't understand this.

That's exactly what they think - "We Ukrainians can do anything, but Russians can't. Lawlessness and permissiveness.

We ourselves, with our humane attitude towards them and our regard for international legal norms, allowed them to think so.

[UAZ 452]

Well, we have been using fire mixtures for a long time and widely - the same TOS. So there is no need to talk about the humanism of either side of this conflict - the owl can break when stretched over the globe.

[Harald]

I am glad that the value of thermite in combat has finally been realized on the Russian side. I proposed using thermite with drones here a year and a half ago.
In the 1990s, I was a West German officer, and we already had 1 kg thermite sticks that could be placed on an engine block and ignited. The charge would penetrate any steel, ignite the engine, and weld the remains of the engine and gearbox together. The wreckage could no longer even be towed.
So why are abandoned combat vehicles still being targeted with drones today, rather than just having a thermite charge placed on the hood and pipe?

[maxvlm]

They write in their public pages that they allegedly taught the Russians

In 1965-1974, the United States used napalm on a massive scale against Vietnamese guerrillas, burning everything on the ground.

[astepanov]

It also burns oxygen, affecting even those not in direct contact with it.

Did this journalist even go to school? Thermite, unlike, say, napalm, does not require oxygen to burn.

[NakedMan]

Of course, he himself doesn’t need it, but I think that if you throw it into the forest, there will be something there that will react with the oxygen.

[Beck69]

Of course it doesn't need it, but in a closed room with thermite burning in a porcelain cup the air somehow quickly runs out.

[astepanov]

Quote: Beck69

in a closed room with thermite burning in a porcelain cup, the air somehow quickly runs out.

Have you conducted such an experiment? And how did you determine that "the air ran out"? Did the frames collapse into the room? By the way, a porcelain cup bursts instantly from burning thermite, and metal and slag flow out everywhere. Didn't your wife throw you out of the house for such amateur performance?
Thermite is ignited in a fireclay crucible placed in a box with sand during demonstrations. Another problem is that thermite powder burns almost instantly, slag and metal are sprayed in all directions. Only pressed thermite pellets burn calmly.
It seems to me, my dear man, that you yourself did nothing, although to work the thermite is perhaps the simplest thing that can be thought up.

[KLM77]

In a closed room with an open fire, oxygen burns out, we were taught this back in school.

[astepanov]

Quote: Naked Man

If you throw it into the forest, there will be something there that will react with oxygen.

And if you set fire to a forest with napalm or phosphorus, will it react less strongly with oxygen?

[Lemon]

The squealing will start now! And what about us??))

[Olesya Lesya]

Orange! They squeal all the time - that's their nature.
I just feel sorry for nature, although the lives of the children are more important

[Wratch]

"And if you can't say oink-oink, squeal without embarrassment E-E-E!!!" it's hard to twitch under thermite))))

[alexoff]

Wouldn't a hail of incendiary ammunition do the same thing, but over a larger area?

[Lemon]

Of course it will. But why burn sq.km if you only need to burn the OPL?

[1976AG]

Quote from alexoff

Wouldn't a hail of incendiary ammunition do the same thing, but over a larger area?

It will do, but its ammunition is more expensive and its accuracy is lower.

[barclay]

The answer is in your question.

[air wolf]

We have a lot of napalm, with the UMPK we can launch 500 liter tanks to the Banderites, they will calm down right away
1 gram of napalm causes irreversible damage to the skin, complete demoralization of the enemy.

[Nastia makarova]

It's unlikely to be suitable unless it's for a forest area, but here it's specific

[air wolf]

A platoon strongpoint requires only 1 tank of 500 liters, the effect is worse than FABs, well, only OTAB-1500 is cooler, and if you take 4 UMPK tanks from the Su-34, then you can even not clear a company strongpoint, but simply go around it...

[Romario_Argo]

you probably meant ODAB-500
and for termite you can use RBK-500,
In addition to the RVV, the Su-34 can carry an average of 4 RBK-500
2 Su-34s will be able to spray 8 tons of thermite over a company support base - that's definitely more than enough
and if you adapt the UMPK for KAB-1500 and for thermite - it will be completely brutal
404 - will still howl from its own antics

[Nikolaevich_IXI]

Napalm was banned on the basis of a document that came into force on December 2, 1983. As of January 2012, this document was ratified by 99 countries, including Russia.

[air wolf]

Winners are not judged...
therefore, since our top people do not want to make a decision on the destruction of bridges and logistics of the Banderite state, then let them at least immediately cremate the Banderites on the spot, and the ashes as fertilizer, at least there will be some benefit...

[radiovisit]

Yeah, and cluster munitions, and anti-personnel mines without self-destruct timers, and "chemistry". And even earlier, the same documents prohibited strikes on "civilians")))!
And what, strongly "Atlantic"
"white people" are bothered by this))??!
When you and the Agles bombed residential areas of Dresden, ignoring your own documents written in the "League of Nations"?

[kill the fascist]

It's been a long time since we've been acting in this vein - a missile has flown in on a civilian, and in response we'll strike the Rada and other administrative buildings in Kiev and Lviv. A long-range missile has flown in on our city? In response, it's flown in on the PIN DOS Tants base in Syria. There are many there who want to shoot down the Naglos. Didn't get it the first time? The Houthis have shot down a military vessel of small-breds and PIN DOS Tants. That's the only way it works. It's not for nothing that the principle of mirror responses is used in diplomacy.

[rosomaha]

and didn't think that they are provoking us to do this - so that we would indiscriminately and totally strike their cities. This will give them advantages - they will show the world "the brutal nature of Russians", the undecided will join their camp, and this also means money and weapons, a wave of discontent and hatred among their population towards Russians, an increase in the flow of people into the army, revenge... hatred towards Russians is laid down for years... even if we liberate the territory.

[evgen1221]

No, they have a wild confusion in their heads, here is Nazism and Soviet memory of the Great Patriotic War and orders of Western strategists who know about Russia only balalaika and vodka. Well, there is no point for us to lay down divisions behind the forest belt near the village of Gadyukino, those are not the times

[mongolian9999]

And now they don't write about the atrocities of the Russians? At least there will be a reason. And there will be no increase in the flow into the army. More precisely, the most crazy ones will come, who will have to be destroyed even after their time. On the contrary, the majority will chicken out even more and will kill the Tskashniks, just to avoid getting napalmed. As you suggest, we have been fighting for two years already. Maybe we should try something different?

[ishkovam]

...or maybe those who doubt will become even more embittered? Let's remember - in 2019, 75% of the population of Ukraine voted for Zelensky only because he promised peace with Donbass and peace with Russia. Back then, no one went to the military registration and enlistment offices at all, they laughed at the mobilization. And now, after the mass graves, the remaining adequate people have become confused

[mongolian9999]

They'll get embittered and die. They'll get smart and survive. Otherwise, they'll be driven through the woods for thirty years.

[kill the fascist]

And so they draw some other image? They beat on the Kramatorsk railway station, and blame us. Or an installation in the bucha. Hatred was laid down for 30 years, and not now. Now surgeons need to think about cutting off gangrenous flesh. If we stop the war today and leave all the occupied territories, will the pants love us? :) They will decide that "Akela missed", will gather strength and start a new war. So, without looking back to later.

[NakedMan]

The longer the war, the more time they have to process the population with propaganda.

[Tataurof]

What's wrong with you? They've been actively brainwashing since 2014, openly since 1991, and quietly before that.
In the 80s, an uncle from the Lviv region told me how they pump gas to us in Siberia, and we had everything ready...

[Rome]

From mirrored answers to glassed territory the path can be very short!
In the Looking Glass you need to walk smart!

[kill the fascist]

And so should we play a game of give-in or maybe just give in? We need to escalate the situation ourselves a long time ago. Karaganov and others can hardly be called stupid and unbalanced people, but they are talking about answers and raising the stakes.

[Rome]

Why exactly give in? If we had enough strength to solve the problem at once, we would have done it! But it turns out that we do not have enough strength to win in one fell swoop and therefore it is important for us to wage the war in such a way that the stress from the war would be bearable for us.
If the current situation on the front allows us to win, then why arrange additional escalation? Escalation is raising the stakes, the stakes are raised by the side that considers the current situation to be a losing one! The West and the Armed Forces of Ukraine are raising the stakes because they understand that the current situation is leading to defeat! We are satisfied with the current state of affairs because we see that things are moving towards Victory!
why should we then raise the stakes and destabilize the situation, with an unclear outcome? Our response to their escalation is to restore the status quo on the battlefield, namely maintaining our superiority, this is enough for Victory
But any unnecessary escalation on our part would mean for the ENTIRE world, including friends and neutrals, that we consider the situation to be a losing one and this could destabilize the situation and actually lead to defeat.

[mongolian9999]

And here I agree with the president. If there is no Russia in the world, then what is the point of such a world?

[rosomaha]

I have a question about these power supplies - thermite is a solid substance... and the drone used it like it was pouring from a bucket. If you recall the classification of ignition agents:
- napalm mixtures (fuel + thickener),
- metal-filled mixtures (pyrogel)-napalm+metal to increase combustion temperature.
-Thermite-metallized ignition mixture (compressed powder).
- Phosphorus mixtures
then maybe pyrogel was used from drones?

[evgen1221]

We all fight with white gloves, but they immediately accepted that in war all means are fair.

[astra wild2]

"he also burns oxygen" if it weren't for the Ukrainians, Greenpeace, they've already cooked Putin into a roast.
So, we have to make sure that the ecology is normal.

[lukash66]

In general, flamethrowers were not taken prisoner during WWI, WWII, or WWII. And we shouldn't do it now. Of course, our guys from the RCBZ don't count. Especially since they are truly heroic guys. To approach 5-15 km from the LBS and shoot back. It's like the attack aircraft and bombers of WWII, you can't do it from a combat course.

[NakedMan]

Quote from: lukash66

Flamethrowers were not taken prisoner at all

It seems that in the current war, drone operators have long since fallen into this category.

[Konnick]

The thermite mixture can destroy anything that is not protected. It also burns oxygen, affecting even those who are not in direct contact with it.

Oh, these horror stories. Just decide, is it a thermite aluminum mixture or a liquid flamethrower mixture like napalm, or maybe just gasoline-kerosene?

[terms]

Well, I'm not surprised. Tushenka has already "invented" a lot of things on the SVO fields, as usual considering themselves the smartest)) These are cluster charges, and drones, and all sorts of other things. Only they start howling every time and get very sad when it turns out again and again that two people can play these games. Only their opponent does have some kind of economy, and a much larger population, and SUDDENLY he does not have to wait for more handouts. If necessary, he tries and can produce everything himself in the required quantities. Yes, there are nuances, but the cardinal difference is undeniable)))) So once again it is funny to see their attempts to hope for something in this war. They messed with the wrong people.

[drags33]

"If God wants to punish, he takes away reason / It often seems to me that the whole country is punished... There is nothing to fix here, Lord, burn!" - from the song "Fire" by the group GROT

[Totor5]

Thermite is a good thing, on September 11 the Americans were even able to cut down 3 skyscrapers in New York with it

[drags33]

Quote: drags33

"If God wants to punish, he takes away reason / It often seems to me that the whole country is punished... There is nothing to fix here, Lord, burn!" - from the song "Fire" by the group GROT

There's nothing that can be fixed here anymore -
Burn, Lord, burn!
Why do they disfigure the Earth?
God's enemies?
Since there is nothing to fix anymore -
Burn, Lord, burn!

[Ezekiel 25-17]

Let me repeat: a combat drone can also carry low-power nuclear weapons; the technology exists.