Strange War: How the Allies Surrendered Poland

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Strange War: How the Allies Surrendered Poland
French soldiers play cards on the Maginot Line during the Phoney War


Surrender of Poland


By breaking off negotiations with Moscow, the Western powers opened the way for Germany to attack the East. First against Poland. On August 28, 1939, the British made it clear to Hitler that they were ready for a new Munich – concessions at the expense of the Poles.



Hitler understood everything perfectly. England was offering a deal at the expense of Poland and was seeking an agreement with Berlin. At the same time, intelligence reported that France was not going to war, just like Britain. Therefore, on the afternoon of August 28, the Fuhrer gave the order to attack Poland.

At the same time, Warsaw behaved aggressively and unwisely during this period. Poland, together with Germany, dismembered Czechoslovakia. Then Warsaw, deciding that it could do anything, refused to make concessions to Germany.

Hitler demanded the transfer of Danzig to Germany, the Polish Corridor (in East Prussia) and the guarantee of the rights of the German minority in Poland. At the same time, the Fuhrer was ready to guarantee the Polish borders. After that, it would be possible to discuss a joint war between Poland and Germany against Russia. But the proud Polish lords, not understanding that force was not on their side, refused to compromise.

On the night of September 1, 1939, the Nazis carried out the Gleiwitz provocation (Gleiwitz provocation ). The SS staged an attack on the German radio station in Gleiwitz (now Gliwice). For this, the Germans used prisoners, whom they killed.


German tank Part enters Poland. September 1939.

France and England enter the war


On September 1, 1939, Germany attacked Poland. The Third Reich threw all combat-ready forces against Poland.

France and Great Britain promised to defend Poland under the treaties of May 15 and August 25, 1939. The Polish government immediately raised the question of England and France fulfilling their obligations to Warsaw. Public opinion in France and England was on Poland's side.

Late in the evening of September 1, the English and French ambassadors handed Ribbentrop identical notes stating that they knew about the German invasion of Poland, which led to the fulfillment of their commitments to Poland. The Allies proposed that the Germans withdraw their troops from Poland. Through Mussolini, they proposed holding a conference on Poland. At this time, the war in Poland was in full swing.

While rapidly developing their offensive in Poland, the Germans were playing for time and pretending to be ready for negotiations. But it quickly became clear that there would be no conference, since Germany would not agree to a preliminary withdrawal of troops.

Warsaw persistently asks for help. Most English politicians are in favor of war. Chamberlain's cabinet gives in. Berlin did not respond to the ultimatum to withdraw troops, and Chamberlain, speaking on the radio at 11:15 am on September 3, 1939, declared a state of war between England and Germany. The French delayed longer, citing the need to complete mobilization without the threat of air strikes from Germany and the evacuation of children from Paris. Only at 12:20 pm on September 3 did Paris transmit the ultimatum to Berlin. It expired at 15:XNUMX pm. France entered the war.

On the same day, the British dominions of Australia and New Zealand declared war on Germany, and a little later, so did Canada and the Union of South Africa. The Second World War had begun. A battle of capitalist predators for dominance in Europe and the world.


King George VI of England announces the start of war on the radio. On September 3, 1939, the day Great Britain and France declared war on Germany, the king, in his radio address to the nation, called on the people of Great Britain and the entire British Empire to unite and stand firm in the years of danger. The speech was a huge success; the king became a symbol of national unity during the war.

Strange war


On the western border, the Germans had virtually no combat-ready troops or full-fledged fortified lines. France and England could occupy a significant part of Western Germany with one blow. Their powerful aviation could bomb the industrial heart of the Reich – the Ruhr. That is why many German generals were very afraid of the Polish campaign. Berlin did not have the troops for a war on two fronts.

The Fuhrer himself had previously stated on numerous occasions that a war on two fronts, after the sad experience of the First World War, was hopeless for the Third Reich, and the chances of winning it were zero. If the French and British had launched a real offensive, Berlin would have had to urgently wind down the operation in Poland and begin negotiations. The British Empire and France were great powers compared to Germany at that time, which surpassed the Reich in all respects – economy, treasury, armed forces, material and human resources. The French army was considered the most powerful in Western Europe, the British fleet was the first in the world, and the French one was the third.

The Allies had about 110 divisions against 23 inferior and poorly armed German divisions on the Western Front. A big advantage in artillery, tanks and planes. The Germans had minimal supplies and simply could not have waged a full-fledged campaign in the West.

The Chief of the German General Staff of the Ground Forces, Halder, noted: “In September 1939, Anglo-French troops could, without encountering serious resistance, cross the Rhine and threaten the Ruhr basin, the possession of which was a decisive factor in Germany’s conduct of the war.”


King George VI of England (in the light cloak in the front row) inspects No. 85 Squadron in France. Hawker Hurricane Mk I fighters are parked on the airfield. In the upper left corner you can see (from left to right): a Bristol Blenheim bomber and two Gloster Gladiator fighters. 1939

Germany had neither the troops nor the resources to fight in the East and West at once. However, Hitler knew what he was doing. He believed that the Allies would limit themselves to an economic blockade of the Reich and diplomatic statements. And when London and Paris declared war on Germany, Hitler said: "That does not mean that they will fight." And so it happened.

Despite the declaration of war, the French and British remained inactive for 8 months. The combat activity of the allies was close to zero. On September 3, small units of the French army, without encountering resistance, advanced a maximum of 18 km into enemy territory. Already on September 12, the French high command issued a secret order to cease offensive actions. In early October, when Poland had already been defeated, they retreated back to the state border line. After which there was a practically peaceful silence for a long time.

Planes dropped leaflets instead of bombs, and soldiers played football, drank wine and danced. Thousands of footballs and playing cards were sent to the army, and supplies of alcohol increased. During this period, known as the Phoney War or the Sitting War, the Wehrmacht crushed Poland and began preparing for war on the Western Front.

British Field Marshal Montgomery noted: "France and Britain did not move while Germany swallowed Poland. We remained inactive even when German armies were being transferred to the West with the obvious purpose of attacking us! We waited patiently to be attacked, and throughout this period we bombed Germany from time to time with leaflets. I did not know whether it was a war."


A German soldier throws a barrel of propaganda leaflets in French into the Rhine. September-October 1939.

Hitler was expected to strike at Russia


London and Paris, which actively supported the Third Reich project in the pre-war period, expected that Hitler would go east, to Russia, after capturing Polish territory. After that, it would be possible to come to an agreement with Hitler on the basis of anti-communism. Therefore, they were not going to seriously fight the Nazis.

Not only the ground forces were inactive, but also the main forces of the navy and air force. For the air force to act, a special order from the English authorities was required. England and France, in fact, limited themselves to declaring a blockade, but it did not disrupt the economy of the Reich. Germany received all the necessary materials and goods through Italy, Spain, Turkey and other countries.

The governments of Chamberlain and Daladier did everything to prevent a real war on the Western Front. They gave the Fuhrer a chance to immediately attack the Soviet Union. This was the cherished dream of British and French capital: to pit the Germans and Russians against each other. As in World War I. Then it would be possible to negotiate between the Western powers and Germany, to divide the skin of the Russian bear.

Hitler understood this whole game perfectly well (Hitler's strategy. Why the Fuhrer was not afraid of a war on two fronts). The Fuhrer strictly forbade violating not only the land border, but also the air border in the West. So the Germans sat in their trenches on one side, and the French and English on the other. They tried not to disturb each other's peace. A little more and they would have gone to fraternize. On the land front, this continued until May 1940.


A column of Polish prisoners of war moves along a Warsaw street after Poland's capitulation

Hitler, having quickly dealt with Poland, transferred troops to the West. At this time, Paris and London secretly tried to find a common language with Berlin. And Hitler, in order to prepare a new campaign in the West, pretended to be ready for a new world. In September and October, the Fuhrer declared that he was not going to fight in the West, but England and France must recognize the new situation, that Poland had been conquered by Germany. That a further revision of the Versailles system was needed, in particular in the issue of colonies. Germany must receive its former colonies.

While Hitler's diplomacy and propaganda campaigned over "peace" proposals, the General Staff and the army prepared for a new campaign in the West. The sedentary war ended when the Nazi tank wedges began to smash France.

Hitler was no fool and had no intention of leaving the front in the rear when he began the war against the Russians. At the same time, he allowed the British, who were trapped at Dunkirk, to leave quite calmly. Heroic films were later made about this. In reality, the Germans simply allowed the British to evacuate without crushing them with tank treads (Hitler's “Stop Order”. Why German tanks did not crush the British army).

Thus, the Phony War was from the very beginning a "deal" between Western politicians and Hitler with the aim of directing the aggression of the Third Reich against the Soviet Union. To pit the Germans and the Russians against each other.

Therefore, in September 1939, Poland was given over to Nazi Germany to be torn apart. The 8 months of the Sitting War are the best proof of this. Then London also gave up its French partner to Germany. Almost all of continental Europe with its economic resources was given to Hitler so that he could attack the USSR.


French soldiers dressed as women entertain their comrades. Maginot Line, during the so-called Phony or Sitting War (French: Drôle de guerre, German: Sitzkrieg) on ​​the Western Front. March 1940.
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  1. +5
    9 September 2024 05: 36
    French soldiers dressed as women entertain their comrades. Maginot Line,

    Ooooooh... so it turns out that everything they do is historically justified... wassat laughing
  2. 0
    9 September 2024 06: 22
    The author produces some interesting gems... Well, England and especially France paid in full for their policies, that's indisputable. And what about the main character, Germany? Ah, it turns out Poland was unreasonable and did not compromise on the borders, which... (drum roll) Hitler guaranteed Poland... "It's not my fault, he came to me himself." How similar this is to justifying aggression towards a neighbor. Even if the neighbor is not entirely adequate...
    1. +2
      9 September 2024 07: 46
      Quote: Come in large numbers
      Ah, it turns out Poland was unreasonable and did not compromise on the borders, which... (drum roll) Hitler guaranteed Poland... "It's not my fault, he came to me himself." How similar this is to justifying aggression towards a neighbor. Even if the neighbor is not entirely adequate...

      There is no need to make Poland out to be some kind of "innocent lamb". It also contributed its share to the outbreak of the world war.
      On August 6, 1939, Polish Marshal Edward Rydz-Śmigły told the British newspaper Daily Mail: "Poland is seeking war with Germany, and Germany will not be able to avoid it even if she wants to."
      1. MSN
        +2
        9 September 2024 15: 29
        History of the Second World War. 1939-1945 in twelve volumes. Volume 3 Chapter 1 page 13
  3. +6
    9 September 2024 06: 53
    It should be noted that both England and France were still fresh in the memory of the losses in World War I. The beginning of military actions was perceived extremely negatively by the peoples of these countries. So they had to sit it out in the hope of an acceptable agreement.
  4. +3
    9 September 2024 07: 48
    Hitler demanded the transfer of Danzig to Germany, the Polish Corridor (in East Prussia) and the guarantee of the rights of the German minority in Poland. At the same time, the Fuhrer was ready to guarantee the Polish borders.

    To count on Hitler's guarantees would also be the greatest stupidity.

    The strange war was strange because the English and especially the French categorically did not want to fight, especially the French, morally broken by the First World War. Let Hitler fight Poland, the USSR, Mars, just don't touch us.

    The French didn’t even want to fight for themselves, let alone for Poland.

    It is significant that the Allies declared war on Germany on September 3, trying to reach an agreement with Hitler again within the first 2 days of September.
  5. +6
    9 September 2024 07: 50
    Blood bath - a German French-language leaflet from 1940 depicting a British soldier leaving his French ally to jump into a blood bath. I will note on my own behalf - the plot is very correct and witty and, for sure, made more than one Frenchman think...
  6. +2
    9 September 2024 08: 06
    In order to be able to help Poland, England and France had to start mobilizing in June. The English began mobilizing the Reserve Fleet, but this was preparation for a completely different war, not to help Poland. The Psheks were "written off" back in August, but London did not expect it to happen so quickly. And then France "deflates" just as quickly, which Churchill and his gang did not expect.
  7. +3
    9 September 2024 08: 31
    Quote: Come in large numbers
    Ah, it turns out Poland was incompetent and did not compromise on the borders, which...


    ...which were carried out arbitrarily by "democracies" following the First World War. Germany was stripped of considerable territories, including those given to Poland. Thus, a solid foundation was laid for German revanchism.
    1. +1
      9 September 2024 08: 49
      Quote: Illanatol
      ...which were carried out arbitrarily by "democracies" following the First World War. Germany was stripped of considerable territories, including those given to Poland. Thus, a solid foundation was laid for German revanchism.

      They just tore away so little that they left the foundation. And if they had left the borders unchanged, Germany would have been even stronger.
  8. -1
    9 September 2024 08: 37
    Quote: TermNachTER
    To be able to help Poland, England and France had to begin mobilization in June.


    And they weren't really going to help Poland. They weren't idiots. The democracies understood perfectly well that Poland was just a threshold to Russia. They were sure that after Poland, Hitler, having received a common border with the USSR, would start a war against the Bolsheviks (along with the Japanese), playing the role of the "militant faggot" of the Anglo-Saxons. But the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact shattered this combination into pieces. And Hitler (even though Stalin carried it out, destroying the alliance with the Japanese) turned out to be smarter, didn't want to be just "militant..." and first struck France, which the democrats were not ready for.
    1. +2
      9 September 2024 10: 04
      .
      They were sure that after Poland, Hitler, having received a common border with the USSR, would start a war against the Bolsheviks
      Of course they really hoped for this, they didn’t even condemn the USSR for Poland, but there was no certainty about this.
      Quote: Illanatol
      But the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact shattered this combination into pieces. And Hitler (even though Stalin carried it out)

      With the pact, Hitler led Stalin, ensuring himself a reliable rear and resources from the East during the capture of western and south-eastern Europe.

      Having done almost everything he had planned and having used the pact to its fullest, he dealt with the pact in the same way as with other similar pacts.
      1. -4
        9 September 2024 12: 10
        According to the testimony of the "top" of the USSR, the pact gave a respite and time to build up forces, but made war inevitable.
        The Red Army of 1939 and 1941 were still very different armies.
        1. 0
          9 September 2024 12: 15
          Quote: Jager
          According to the testimony of the "top" of the USSR, the pact gave a respite and time to build up forces, but made war inevitable.
          The Red Army of 1939 and 1941 were still very different armies.

          And HOW the Wehrmacht and Germany as a whole became stronger during this same respite - using the resources of all of Europe.
        2. 0
          10 September 2024 04: 49
          Without the pact it was even more inevitable. The pact was needed to ensure more favorable conditions for waging war. Since it was not possible to create an anti-German coalition due to the fault of the English, Poles and French.
    2. 0
      11 September 2024 20: 54
      The criminal conspiracy of Hitler and Stalin gave the green light to the world war. And the Soviet people later paid for Stalin's crime with 27 million lives. And if we also count the unborn, then the demographic losses of the USSR are 40 million.
      1. 0
        13 September 2024 12: 19
        Well, yes, of course, the pact was zugzwang. Although the war could not be cancelled, it could at least be postponed somehow. If anyone is to blame for the beginning of a general war, it is Poland's "allies".
  9. -2
    9 September 2024 08: 46
    Quote: Glock-17
    It should be noted that in both England and France the memory of the losses in the First World War was still fresh.


    Bolt for this memory. The opinion of the plebs and their wishes did not bother the elite much.
    Hitler was raised by the democratic elites themselves, they did everything to make him appear. The objective preconditions for German revanchism were laid back in Versailles in 1918. Smart people (like the French General Foch) understood everything back then. "This is not peace, but a truce for twenty years."
    And then the Reich was diligently helped to forge its military-industrial potential. Investments, technologies, lifting the Versailles restrictions on armaments... after all, they believed that Hitler could be "channeled" against the USSR, used as a battering ram, and then flushed down the toilet. "The Moor has done his job, the Moor can fell trees." But these democratic guys clearly underestimated Hitler and the Reich.

    If the "democracies" had wanted to stop Hitler, they could easily have done so at the very beginning. For example, when Hitler, violating the restrictions of the Versailles Peace, brought troops into the demilitarized Rhineland. The French could then have crushed the German divisions with one blow.
    But no. The "democracies" wanted another war. It's just that the new war turned out to be different from what they had planned.
    1. 0
      9 September 2024 12: 19
      after all, they believed that Hitler could be “channeled” against the USSR, used as a battering ram, and then flushed down the toilet.

      I have also come across another opinion. The English came out of the First World War in not the best condition - a lot of debts, and then there were these interwar crises. Hitler was raised against France. The English expected that the Germans and the French would kill each other on the Maginot/Siegfried Line in the style of the First World War, that is, the closest competitor (the French) would be weakened. Also consider that in France in the interwar period, government crises followed one after another, the authorities had difficulty solving immediate issues, and no one was engaged in strategy.
  10. -2
    9 September 2024 08: 57
    Quote: BlackMokona
    They just tore away so little that they left the foundation. And if they had left the borders unchanged, Germany would have been even stronger.


    1. The foundation was needed because Germany was originally planned to be used as the instigator of a new world (or pan-European) war, the fruits of which would go to the same “democracies”.
    2. It would be stronger, but there would be less motivation for revanchism. Not only potential is needed, but also the will and desire to fight, supported by the "masses".
    3. If everything had been different, the authorities of England and France would not have independently destroyed the "Little Entente", this sanitary cordon of small European mongrels, which worked equally against both the USSR and Germany. At first, all these mongrels walked under the democracies, but then they defected to the Reich, as to a stronger and more strong-willed imperialist power.
  11. +5
    9 September 2024 11: 12
    The Allies had about 110 divisions against 23 inferior and poorly armed German divisions on the Western Front.

    They had... on paper. The problem is that when historians began to examine these 110 divisions in detail, surprising things came to light.
    To begin with, a third of this figure consisted of A and B series divisions, the formation of which even theoretically required 2 months. It also included troops from 21 defensive regions - fortress units, conditionally recalculated into "equivalent divisions". In general, it turned out that in the fall of 1939, even in theory, France had 37 active divisions - 25 Metropolitan and 12 African and colonial.
    1. Alf
      +1
      9 September 2024 19: 59
      Quote: Alexey RA
      The Allies had about 110 divisions against 23 inferior and poorly armed German divisions on the Western Front.

      They had... on paper. The problem is that when historians began to examine these 110 divisions in detail, surprising things came to light.
      To begin with, a third of this figure consisted of A and B series divisions, the formation of which even theoretically required 2 months. It also included troops from 21 defensive regions - fortress units, conditionally recalculated into "equivalent divisions". In general, it turned out that in the fall of 1939, even in theory, France had 37 active divisions - 25 Metropolitan and 12 African and colonial.
      1. +2
        10 September 2024 10: 37
        The British Armed Forces in 1939 were essentially one fleet and a couple of divisions. The military policy of the Island Empire in the late 20s and the first half of the 30s was based on the Churchillian principle of "we need to build the Armed Forces based on the fact that there will be no war in the next 10 years"Well, we finished building it...
        Britain really started to take care of its armed forces in 1936, when one Chancellor of the Exchequer, looking at what was happening in Europe, began to systematically increase military spending. Appreciate the irony: the department that is supposed to monitor budget spending and save it in every possible way began to increase spending itself.
        This policy was mercilessly criticized by opponents at the very next elections - they said, "guns instead of butter" and "it would have been better to spend it on social programs than to produce weapons that no one needs." But the chancellor became prime minister - and in a couple of years increased military spending sixfold. In order to gain time to form and rearm his armed forces, the prime minister even sacrificed one European country. And although he spoke about peace in public, in conversations with his own people he directly and unequivocally stated that war was inevitable - and he was doing everything to delay its beginning, only to give the Empire time to prepare.
        But it was too late - the military-industrial complex of the Island Empire, despite all the infusions of money, simply did not have time to mobilize before the start of the great war in Europe. The prime minister had to leave under the pressure of one aggressive populist. But his work was not in vain - throughout the first half of the war (and the navy until the end of it) Britain fought with orders and developments of the "peacemaker".
    2. 0
      10 September 2024 14: 12
      And what did the Germans really have on the western borders? Disabled teams?
      How many combat aircraft and tank divisions did the Reich have against France then? Everything that was there worked against the Poles. France had quite a few tanks and aircraft.
      If the French were ill-prepared for a war with Germany, which they had been preparing for back when Hitler was a nobody, who is to blame except the French themselves?
      They violated the triple treaty with the USSR and Czechoslovakia - and now they have suffered the consequences of their betrayal and cowardice.
      1. 0
        10 September 2024 16: 35
        Quote: Illanatol
        And what did the Germans really have on the western borders? Disabled teams?

        31 infantry divisions, of which 12 were of the first wave. The rest were suitable for defense on previously prepared lines, which the Germans just happened to have. Plus another 3 infantry divisions were in the process of redeployment, and another 9 were transferred after the war began.
        Quote: Illanatol
        France had a lot of tanks and planes.

        Yeah... but there were practically no structures for using those same tanks. Two DLMs - and that's it. The rest was tanks scattered in battalions and regiments, plus the DLMs being formed. Armored divisions were only in the plans. Let me remind you that De Gaulle's tank division had not been filled with equipment and personnel even by the start of the German invasion.
  12. +2
    9 September 2024 12: 14
    The website "Memory of the People" has published photocopies of reports from our ambassadors in London and Paris in 1939, just before the war. Our ambassadors met with the top officials, both official and unofficial. Conclusion: the main task of England and France in 1939 was to preserve their colonial empires.
    As for the "stop order" in Dunkirk - it was the best option. The German mobile units were already "worn out", and they needed to break through the defense. There is no need to explain to a corporal of the First World War how motivated infantry digs into the ground. The British had the equipment in Dunkirk, the troops too, it was quite possible to organize a defense against which the Germans crashed. And then Goering tugged at the coattails and convinced that his aces could do ANYTHING.
    1. 0
      10 September 2024 10: 40
      [quote=Не_боец]As for the "stop order" in Dunkirk - that was the best option. The German mobile units were already "worn out", and they needed to break through the defense. There is no need to explain to a corporal of the First World War how motivated infantry digs into the ground./quote]
      Moreover, the notorious decision to stop was made by professional soldiers. And the Fuhrer only approved the order that was already being carried out.
  13. +2
    9 September 2024 16: 29
    Quote: Come in large numbers

    Ah, it turns out Poland was incompetent and did not compromise on the borders that... (drum roll) Hitler guaranteed Poland...

    So Hitler did not demand Polish territories from the Poles. He demanded that the Poles agree to annex Danzig, which was not part of Poland (a free city).
    1. MSN
      0
      10 September 2024 11: 17
      I'll insert the link a second time. Argue with the History of WWII in 12 volumes.
  14. 0
    9 September 2024 17: 55
    Well, why so loudly, Poland was reminded of its place. Pre-war Poland began to think too much of itself, decided that it was a world power whose opinion should be taken into account.
  15. +3
    9 September 2024 18: 37
    Cool. Almost every next paragraph contradicts the previous one. Cool. request
  16. +1
    9 September 2024 20: 46
    While the "Strange War" was going on, the Anglo-Saxons and Frogs were busy developing plans for air strikes on Baku, Maikop and Grozny and landing troops in the Caucasus and the Arctic, longing for the frenzied Fuhrer to rush with them to the USSR.
  17. +1
    10 September 2024 04: 23
    Hitler demanded the transfer of Danzig to Germany, the Polish Corridor (in East Prussia) and the guarantee of the rights of the German minority in Poland.
    – I have great respect for the author, but I must say that he is quoting a typical propaganda cliché of that era, when the Poles were supposedly our friends.
    Winston Churchill very accurately called Poland "the hyena of Europe". White and fluffy Poland had territorial claims to all its neighbors. Among its immediate goals was Danzig. However, it was impossible for Poland to obtain it peacefully. According to Articles 100-108 of the Treaty of Versailles, Danzig and its immediate environs constituted a republic called the "Free City of Danzig", which was under the protection of the League of Nations. The representative of the League of Nations was the so-called High Commissioner. When concluding the Treaty of Versailles, France tried to transfer Danzig to Poland, but its proposal was rejected by the United States and Great Britain. The only thing Clemenceau could achieve was the transfer of the foreign policy of the "Free City" into the hands of Poland. Thus, the Treaty of Versailles did not contain even a hint of the possibility of transferring Danzig to Poland. It was also impossible to annex it to Poland by means of a plebiscite, since the population of Danzig was entirely German, and any plebiscite in favor of Poland there would have been guaranteed to fail.
    For his part, Hitler, in his quest to regain the territories cut off from Germany by the Treaty of Versailles, also had his sights set on Danzig. Unlike Poland, Hitler could easily have annexed the “Free City” peacefully, since the Danzig issue was essentially a problem between Germany and the League of Nations. At that time, it simply did not occur to Hitler to fight Poland over Danzig. It did not belong to them.
    The first official diplomatic step towards the Second World War was taken on November 19, 1937, when Lord President of the Council of Great Britain E. Halifax visited Germany. During a conversation with Hitler in Ober-Salzberg, Lord Halifax made it clear that, provided the integrity of the British Empire was preserved, the English ruling circles were prepared to give Germany a free hand with regard to Austria, Czechoslovakia and Danzig. He only made the reservation that these planned “changes be made through peaceful evolution.” Halifax told Hitler that Germany could rightfully be considered “the bastion of the West against Bolshevism.”
    Having received carte blanche from the Entente, Hitler carried out the Anschluss on March 12-13, 1938. Then, on September 30, 1938, the famous Munich Agreement was concluded, according to which Czechoslovakia transferred the Sudetenland to Germany. At the same time, a declaration of mutual non-aggression was signed between Great Britain and Germany. A similar declaration was signed by Germany and France a little later. In this regard, the French ambassador to Moscow, Robert Coulondre, noted on October 4, 1938, that the Munich agreement "is a particularly strong threat to the Soviet Union. After the neutralization of Czechoslovakia, the way to the southeast is open to Germany."
    After this, considering that the Poles had already publicly stated their claims to Danzig on several occasions, Hitler decided to settle all disputed issues with Poland through negotiations. It should be especially noted that, when starting these negotiations with Poland, Hitler was ready to do anything, if only the Poles would not interfere in the discussion of the Danzig problem in the League of Nations.
    On 24 October 1938, at a meeting with the Polish ambassador Lipski, von Ribbentrop put forward a proposal for a general settlement of the contentious issues existing between Poland and Germany. It included Poland's consent to the reunification of Danzig with the Reich, and in exchange for this essentially moral concession, Poland was given guarantees of maintaining favorable conditions in Danzig in the areas of rail communications and the economy. In addition, Germany asked Poland for consent to build an extraterritorial highway and a railway line through Pomerania. As compensation for the Polish concessions, von Ribbentrop promised to extend the Polish-German agreement of 1934 for 25 years and offered guarantees of preserving the Polish-German borders. This was a very important diplomatic concession, since both countries did not recognize the border between them. As a possible area of ​​future cooperation between the two countries, the German Foreign Minister named joint actions on colonial issues and the issue of Jewish emigration from Poland, as well as a common policy towards Russia on the basis of the Anti-Comintern Pact…
    In relation to pre-war German-Polish relations, the "terrible" demand for an "extraterritorial road and railway line" actually meant von Ribbentrop's modest request for extraterritorial transit. The fact is that German transit goods on the approximately 40-70 km section between Pomerania and East Prussia had to pass through Polish customs control twice and, accordingly, were subject to customs duties twice. The issues of customs inspection and payment for German transit were the most long-standing and most contentious in German-Polish relations. Moreover, Poland added fuel to this fire by imposing restrictions on German transit in February 1936 due to the unsettled nature of its payment. In turn, the only thing the Germans wanted was to carry transit goods without restrictions, customs inspection and customs payment (extraterritorially). From the standpoint of a modern united Europe, the Polish position in this dispute is simply ridiculous and absurd.
    As we can see, von Ribbentrop was polite and correct to the point of servility. There is not a word about threats. Germany's requests are extremely moderate and fair. For modest moral (!) concessions to Poland, weighty territorial compensations are offered at the expense of the future occupation of Soviet Ukraine. Everything is decorous and noble. Everything is familial.
    In modern Poland, it is also accepted that there was nothing extraordinary in these proposals and that for the sake of the subsequent division of the Russian bear's skin, it would be possible to give in to the ally. In this case, Hitler would have been spared from a war on two fronts. Therefore, the war of the countries of the "Anti-Comintern Pact" against the USSR, which in turn found itself in complete international isolation, would have been victorious and Poland would have easily compensated for the moral losses at the expense of Russia. As Professor Pawel Wieczorkiewicz of the Historical Institute of the University of Warsaw wrote on the pages of the newspaper Rzeczpospolita on September 28, 2005:
    We could have found a place on the Reich side almost as good as Italy, and certainly better than Hungary or Romania. We would have ended up in Moscow, where Adolf Hitler and Rydz-Smigly would have received the parade of victorious Polish-German troops.

    Alas! Contrary to all logic, a decisive refusal came from Warsaw, in which the Polish Minister of Foreign Affairs, Józef Beck, stated that
    any attempt to include Danzig in the Reich would lead to immediate conflict...

    Thus the Poles fired the first shot (still diplomatic) in the Second World War. What is interesting is that all subsequent negotiations with Poland, despite Germany's unique peacefulness, took place to the accompaniment of continuing abuses of German national minorities in Poland and each time were met with a categorical refusal from her side.
    This can be explained simply. England and France set themselves the goal of handing Poland over to Hitler so that Germany would have access to the borders of the USSR. At that time, Poland was positioned by them as a nonentity in military terms and was written off. Therefore, the Anglo-Saxons literally set Poland against Germany. For this purpose, on April 6, 1939, Beck and Chamberlain signed the Anglo-Polish Treaty of Mutual Assistance. In this treaty, Britain pledged to declare war on Germany in the event of its conflict with Poland. Thus, the German-Polish treaty of 1934 was flushed down the toilet. Until 1939, this Polish-German agreement stated that the parties were obliged to base their relations on the principles of the Kellogg-Briand Pact, not to use force to resolve disputes and to resolve them through peaceful settlement.
    On May 5, 1939, Foreign Minister Beck responded to Hitler's speech in the Polish Senate regarding Germany's unilateral termination of the 1934 treaty, stating that Poland did not want a settlement of the Danzig and Polish Corridor problem in view of
    insufficient compensation to Poland from the German side
    .
    In essence, this bright anti-German speech was a declaration of war. Rubicon. What is characteristic is that the text of this speech is not in any accessible collection of political documents. The information field is completely cleared.
    1. MSN
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      10 September 2024 11: 29
      From the point of view of the positions of a modern united Europe, the Polish position in this dispute is simply ridiculous and absurd.

      And from the perspective of a modern "single customs space"? Transport cargo from Belarus to Kazakhstan. How many times will they check? And how many hours will you stand there?
    2. 0
      12 September 2024 10: 41
      I haven't seen such propaganda for a long time
      As we can see, von Ribbentrop was polite and correct to the point of servility. There is not a word about threats. Germany's requests are extremely moderate and fair. For modest moral (!) concessions to Poland, weighty territorial compensations are offered at the expense of the future occupation of Soviet Ukraine. Everything is decorous and noble. Everything is familial.

      1 "moderate and fair" from whose point of view?
      2 and did the Polish authorities want to go to war with the Nazis against the USSR? In my opinion, this is bullshit



      In modern Poland, it is also generally accepted that there was nothing extraordinary in these proposals and that for the sake of the subsequent division of the Russian bear's skin, it would be possible to sacrifice in favor of an ally.

      Who adopted it? Is it a mass adoption or a group of sectarians?
    3. +1
      14 September 2024 05: 54
      Old Electrician - very condensed and professionally written. Without emotions and propaganda. Thank you!
  18. -1
    10 September 2024 11: 21
    Quote: MSN
    I'll insert the link a second time. Argue with the History of WWII in 12 volumes.

    It presents an opinion, not facts. In fact, Hitler demanded consent to the annexation of Danzig to Germany and free passage to it.
    1. MSN
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      10 September 2024 14: 46
      It presents opinions, not facts.

      History of WWII turns out to present opinions. Wonderful. Nice try.
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  20. -2
    10 September 2024 14: 20
    Quote: Not the fighter
    I have also come across another opinion. The English came out of the First World War not in the best condition - a lot of debts, and then there were these interwar crises. Hitler was being raised against France.


    Hardly. Especially since France had more opportunities to control the situation. There is a common border with Germany, there are allies - the "Little Entente". Germany was bound by obligations to France and France, if it wished, could easily crush the Reich in the bud.

    In fact, the real grandmaster in this game was the USA. It was they who played the combination with Hitler, using him as their "icebreaker" to weaken their European competitors, and part of it was the game of the English and the French. The latter considered themselves players, but in fact they turned out to be pawns in the hands of the Yankees. The main goal was to establish control over the leading European powers, and through them - over the main part of the world, which existed in the form of colonies of these European powers. The USA sought something similar back in the First World War and after it, but then it did not quite work out. They had to repeat it - the scenarios of the First and Second World Wars are similar. Only the USSR broke part of the combination, they had to continue it in the form of a "cold war" ...
  21. +1
    10 September 2024 15: 15
    Quote: MSN
    It presents opinions, not facts.

    History of WWII turns out to present opinions. Wonderful. Nice try.

    In any history there are opinions and facts. This is normal. Hitler demanded consent to the annexation of Danzig and a free corridor to it. This is a fact. The rest is opinions.
    1. MSN
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      11 September 2024 17: 53
      History is a science and opinions in it, as in any other, are nonsense. Only facts, repeatedly confirmed. The rest are myths. The work presents a quote from Hitler about his desire, intention and, subsequently, his actions. This is a fact. And the demand for annexation is propaganda, which was proven at the Nuremberg trial. And this is a fact. And your opinion is just your opinion. And nothing more.
    2. MSN
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      11 September 2024 18: 10
      On May 23, the Führer held a meeting with the military, including Aviation Minister Hermann Goering, Navy Commander-in-Chief Erich Raeder and Wilhelm Keitel. The cards were laid on the table: Germany did not need Danzig, but much more.

      Hitler:

      Danzig is not at all a subject of dispute. The main issue is the expansion of our living space in the East. Therefore, there can be no talk of sparing Poland. We are left with only one solution: to attack Poland at the first opportunity.
  22. -1
    11 September 2024 08: 42
    Quote: Alexey RA
    31 infantry divisions, 12 of which were of the first wave. The rest were suitable for defense on previously prepared lines, which the Germans just happened to have.


    And not just one tank, which constituted the striking power of the Wehrmacht. The line of fortifications on the border with Germany (the Siegfried Line) was not ready, the "Maginot Line" was like walking to the moon.
    Plus the lack of aviation on the western border.

    Quote: Alexey RA
    Yeah... but there were practically no structures for using those same tanks. Two DLMs - and that's it. The rest were tanks scattered in battalions and regiments, plus the DLMs that were being formed.


    So what? Tanks that directly support infantry are useless? Especially if the enemy has no tanks at all, and the German anti-tank weapons are practically ineffective against heavy French tanks.
  23. +1
    11 September 2024 18: 42
    Quote: MSN
    On May 23, the Fuhrer held a meeting with the military

    Do you have a transcript of this meeting? Upload a quote with a link to the transcript. I'd be interested to see it.
    "History is a science and opinions in it, as in any other, are nonsense." These words of yours are nonsense. History is a humanitarian discipline. It is not an exact science. It is not mathematics, where there cannot be two different equal opinions on how much 2x2 is.
    Let me ask you, what relation do you have to science? You state so categorically what science is.
    1. MSN
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      11 September 2024 19: 02
      The link is given in the attached scan. Difficulties?
      https://docs.historyrussia.org/ru/nodes/91057-sssr-v-borbe-za-mir-nakanune-vtoroy-mirovoy-voyny-sent-1938-avgust-1939-gg#mode/inspect/page/415/zoom/4
      page 411-413
      1. +1
        11 September 2024 19: 13
        That is, you don’t have a transcript, you only have a retelling from other people’s words.
        1. MSN
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          11 September 2024 19: 23
          What can I say? Well reasoned. The next argument will be "So what..."?
          1. +1
            11 September 2024 19: 29
            Well, you didn't present a fact, but an opinion. Who knows what was retold there. The original or a verbatim retelling is needed, not a presentation.
            By the way, Putin said that the war started with Poland because of its intransigence, its inflexible position. But if we consider that the Germans' claims are nothing more than a smokescreen, then it turns out that Putin is clearly wrong. But this is his opinion.
            Read TASS:
            Putin noted that Poland did not give up the Danzig Corridor. "After all, the Poles forced it, they got carried away and forced Hitler to start the Second World War with them. Why did the war start on September 1, 1939 with Poland? It turned out to be unyielding. Hitler had no choice in implementing his plans, [except] to start with Poland," the president added.
            https://tass.ru/politika/19942451
            1. MSN
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              11 September 2024 19: 43
              I have provided a documentary translation of the meeting recording. From the USSR MFA documentary collection. Do you want the German original? No problem - the link to the original document is provided. Go and learn.
              1. +1
                11 September 2024 20: 06
                There are still some Polish historians who regret the missed opportunity to ally with Hitler. https://topwar.ru/83663-mechty-o-proshlom-tretiy-reyh-i-polsha-protiv-sssr.html
                That is, having access to all the documents and being professional historians, they do not at all believe that the attack on Poland was inevitable.
  24. 0
    11 September 2024 19: 55
    Quote: MSN
    I provided a documentary translation of the meeting recording.

    This is not a literal translation, but a presentation. And the suggestion to go look for it is not an argument. By the way, what do you say about Putin's opinion?
    1. MSN
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      11 September 2024 20: 11
      Can you read? There is a link to the literature used at the end of the document. In this case, a link to a collection of German documents from 1918-1945. Come in and learn. But, as I see it, this is not the case. I take my leave.
  25. +1
    11 September 2024 20: 48
    Complete propaganda. Gandalic nonsense. Germany has 61 2/3 divisions against Poland. In the west, initially 34 divisions, by September 10 - 43 2/3 and plus the Siegfried Line. Of the four air fleets, two are in the west. France needs at least two weeks to mobilize and up to a month to coordinate the combat operations of the reserve divisions. "In the northeast (against Germany, on the border with Belgium and Switzerland): 56 divisions (23 "active" infantry divisions, 19 reserve infantry divisions of type "A", 9 reserve infantry divisions of type "B", 2 light mechanized divisions, 3 cavalry divisions, 1 spahi brigade. In the southeast (against Italy): 5 "active" infantry divisions, 2 mountain reserve divisions of type "A", 2 mountain reserve divisions of type "B", 1 spahi brigade.
    Domestically: 7 reserve infantry divisions of type "B"
    North Africa: 14 infantry divisions, 5 cavalry brigades
    Levant: 2 brigades. Total 86 divisions, 9 brigades, + 15 estimated "fortress" divisions on the Maginot Line."
    England: "The first two divisions of the expeditionary force were to land in France on the 14th day of mobilization; in the next six months the British planned to send two more regular divisions, a mobile division and air defense units to the front. By the end of the first year of the war the British were ready to send 4 regular, 12 territorial and a mobile division to France."
    So the allies had no real opportunity to help Poland. And with the defeat of Poland, the Germans quickly transferred troops to the West. The allies planned to repel Hitler's attack, on the defensive. During this time, mobilize the military industry, receive help from the USA and in 41, go on the offensive. Hitler wanted to attack France immediately in November, but the weather prevented it. Deprived Germany of its main advantage - aviation.
    That England and France wanted to send Hitler against the USSR is complete nonsense. That is not why they gave guarantees to Poland and declared war on Germany. But Stalin was trying to pit Germany against France and England. And that is why he entered into a criminal conspiracy with Hitler. Counting on a long war in the West. And he would have brought communism to Europe with fresh forces.
  26. 0
    11 September 2024 20: 53
    Quote: MSN
    Can you read? There is a link to the literature used at the end of the document.

    So, please provide a verbatim quote (plus a verifiable link) and I will read it.
    "But, as I see it, this is not the case." That case is when the link is checked via the Internet.
    1. MSN
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      12 September 2024 19: 57
      The link is easily checked via the Internet. Go and read. Hitler's direct words are given to you. Quote in History of the Second World War 1939-1945. Volume 3 Chapter 1 Page 13
  27. +1
    12 September 2024 13: 54
    Quote: andron352
    So the allies had no real opportunity to help Poland. And with the defeat of Poland, the Germans quickly transferred troops to the West. The allies planned to repel Hitler's attack, on the defensive. During this time, mobilize the military industry, receive help from the USA and in 41, go on the offensive. Hitler wanted to attack France immediately in November, but the weather prevented it. Deprived Germany of its main advantage - aviation.
    That England and France wanted to send Hitler against the USSR is complete nonsense. That is not why they gave guarantees to Poland and declared war on Germany. But Stalin was trying to pit Germany against France and England. And that is why he entered into a criminal conspiracy with Hitler. Counting on a long war in the West. And he would have brought communism to Europe with fresh forces.


    There were plenty of them. After the end of WWII, the former chief of staff of the operational leadership of the Supreme Command of the Wehrmacht (OKW), General Alfred Jodl, testified during interrogation: “We were not defeated in 1939 only because during the Polish campaign, approximately 110 French and British divisions in the west were inactive, standing in front of 23 German divisions.”

    Calculations by modern historians give slightly different figures, which, however, do not change the overall picture and the main conclusion. In September 1939, 78 French divisions with a total of 3,25 million people on the "Siegfried defensive line" were opposed by 1 million German soldiers and officers. Moreover, if the French had 2850 tanks, then the Nazis on the Western Front did not have any at all! Franco-British aviation had a clear superiority over the Luftwaffe forces concentrated there (2421 aircraft against 1359).

    This is not nonsense. Otherwise, they themselves would have done everything to nip the Reich in the bud. Why did the guarantors of Versailles turn a blind eye to Hitler's obvious violations of the terms, and indulge him? Why did the democracies need Hitler?

    Why on earth would the neutral US provide assistance to England and France? The US had no obligations to them.

    There was no criminal conspiracy between the USSR and Germany, since no law prohibits states from concluding such agreements. You are not a judge or a prosecutor, it is not for you to determine what is criminal and what is not. Get it into your head.

    Stalin acted wisely in concluding the Pact, since by doing so he broke the military alliance between the Reich and Japan and avoided a war on two fronts.
  28. 0
    12 September 2024 21: 25
    Quote: MSN
    The link is easily checked via the Internet. Go and read. Hitler's direct words are given to you. Quote in History of the Second World War 1939-1945. Volume 3 Chapter 1 Page 13

    Again, only general words. What specific link? Address? Everywhere there is only a retelling in other people's words.
    "Quote in History". Give it here.
    "volume 3 chapter 1 page 13". In the discussion on the Internet, the links should be Internet ones.
    I gave you the opposing opinions of professional historians and our Supreme, with verbatim quotes and Internet links that can be checked in one click. And you tell me in response - "look it up." Yeah, I'll be crawling around in paper archives, I have nothing better to do.
    1. MSN
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      13 September 2024 15: 29
      Internet generation? Secretly, there is such a thing made of even sheets of paper and cardboard - it is called a book. I read these books and post the most interesting ones, in extreme cases I can scan and post them. I indicate the volume and page, read.
      If you don't know any books, look on the Internet, but do it yourself somehow.
  29. 0
    13 September 2024 16: 12
    Quote: MSN
    Internet generation?

    Actually, we are having a discussion on the Internet. It is logical to provide Internet links.
    I don't know whether the retelling changes the essence of what was said or not. But words hardly matter that much. Deeds are much more important. And they are such that Germany and Poland were not such antagonists. Let me remind you that it was Poland that first concluded a pact with Hitler, back in 1934. Poland took Hitler's side in the Sudetenland crisis, and together with Germany tore Czechoslovakia apart. Until April 1939, Poland had excellent relations with Germany. Poland's mistake was that it misjudged its "weight category". The hyena of Europe imagined itself a lion. When Poland helped Hitler, it was "good", when it began to lay claim to the same prey as the Germans, it became "bad".
    1. MSN
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      13 September 2024 20: 01
      It doesn't matter where the discussion is taking place, knowledge is preserved in books. And nothing else. As for the beginning of WWII, Comrade Hitler has already told everything. Your attempts at justification are at odds with history. Repeatedly supported by court decisions.
      But Poland was white and fluffy, and how much worse the others were in the context of the incredible losses of WW2 is completely unimportant.
  30. 0
    19 September 2024 05: 50
    Why did you abandon the Poles???? For the rest of Europe they are CATTLE!