The ship launched to the ISS has failed engines

The second flight of the private Dragon spacecraft to the ISS was in jeopardy - three of the four engines did not work at the truck that started from Cape Canaveral at 19:10 Moscow time. This was announced by the head of the company-owner drone SpaceX Elon Musk on his Twitter.
“Problems with the Dragon engines. The control system stopped the launch of three of the four engines,” a record appeared in his microblog. Later Musk said that the engines did not work due to automatic locking. In SpaceX reported that due to a problem with the engines of the ship, the solar batteries of the ship could not open.

Dragon managed to uncover batteries around 21: 00 MSK, after SpaceX specialists successfully launched two of the four engine groups. If this had not happened, the truck would have “disconnected” after 13 hours after launch, and this time, we note, NASA decided not to reserve a section in the Pacific Ocean for an emergency landing of the ship.

However, the docking of the Dragon with the ISS is postponed. It was scheduled for 2 March and was supposed to be the fastest in stories Nasa The truck carries more than half a ton of payload to the station, including 300 kg of scientific equipment.

The first commercial flight of the private ship Dragon Space Exploration Technologies company made 8 October last year. Dragon successfully delivered to the station about 450 kg of cargo, including materials for carrying out more than 150 scientific experiments onboard the ISS, parts needed for the station, batteries, a refrigeration unit, clothing for crew members, and food, including chocolate vanilla ice cream parcels.

In May, the 2012 of Dragon went to the ISS and made a successful docking, however, that flight was considered a test flight, since it did not deliver the shuttle to the station. The contract for $ 1,6 billion, concluded between NASA and SpaceX, implies 12 flights of commercial vehicles to the station.

Dragon was developed by order of NASA under the program "Commercial orbital transportation." According to the developers, in the future, the device will be able to deliver to the ISS not only valuable goods, but also people. It is the only space truck in the world capable of returning to Earth, all others are burned in the dense salts of the atmosphere.

Comments

[djon3volta]

It seems to me that the ISS is not only engaged in scientific experiments, but something else, only they don’t tell earthlings (they made a vow of non-disclosure). And it’s not for nothing that the Americans sharply turned off flights to the Moon at the time, and the Martian photos also retouch. In addition, they don’t want people to tell the truth speak.

[Kyrgyz]

It is unlikely that, given the existing level of trust, the ISS is a common site, and "something else" is usually done on their own sites. And the Moon is very expensive and the exhaust is not obvious, the ISS is funded, and the Moon will be even more expensive - such things should move humanity as a whole and not individual administrations

[BARKAS]

Quote: Kyrgyz

ISS common ground

It is common because under pressure from the USA its own station was liquidated. The main ISS resources are used only in the interests of the Americans. The situation can only be corrected when we have a new manned spacecraft while it is only in mock-ups.

[djon3volta]

Quote: BARKAS

under pressure from the United States was liquidated its station

because the Americans could not create their own, they became envious. They realized that they were decades behind the USSR in the technology of creating the station. I saw a documentary about it.
and the live challenger exploded, it’s a shame for the whole world !!! everyone saw this shame on the air.

[Pimply]

Tell me, is it important to carry nonsense? The Americans launched their station in 1973

[old rocket man]

Pimply,
And really, why carry nonsense? The Americans don’t have their own station,,there is international space stationon which there is an American module , and in 1973, as far as I remember, the Apollo-Soyue program was being worked out, the Apollo spacecraft, even with a big stretch, does not pull the station

[Pimply]

Now no, from 1973 to 1979 - was.

[dima314]

but it couldn’t be built and started ... there’s no carrier for that and it’s lazy to build something.

[djon3volta]

Quote: Pimply

The Americans launched their station in 1973

they didn’t start, but they started. And where is it now? And the one that was launched, how long did it exist, and why did the work be curtailed?
why not from the American, but from the Soviet and then Russian made the ISS? why, well, tell me

[Pimply]

Curtailed because it has left orbit. Different countries have a different view of the development of space. In the USSR, they concentrated on stations, the States, after flying to the moon, all the forces were sent to the Shuttle project, and after them - to the exploration of Mars and private space exploration. AND?
They succeeded in their projects.

[sergeybulkin]

This is true, but in the United States, unlike the USSR, money is the main incentive, money ran out and curtailed the lunar program, money ran out and Apolon was stolen. In our country, unlike them, people could, and now can, work on pure enthusiasm just for food. They don’t accept this, although they are full of enthusiasts, but they are considered crazy there and not particularly trusted.
Do not mix cosmonautics and politics, science and ideology, it’s not correctly!

[Evgeniy46]

Quote: BARKAS

because under pressure from the US its own station was liquidated

You can shout as much as you like about the sinking of the Mir, but ...
The first module was launched in the 80s and by the end of the 90s - the beginning of the 00s it had three times the service life. According to the recollections of the cosmonauts, something broke on the Mir regularly. And in the early 2000s, Roskosmos did not have money, let alone for a new station - not even enough to operate an existing one. You can shout as much as you like about the evil Putin, who drowned Mir to please the Americans, but then there was no money for much. The ISS, on the other hand, helped us to preserve the technologies for building such stations. By and large, now various modules (residential, scientific, etc.) can only be built by Roskosmos, ESA, JSA, at a stretch China. NASA is worth every little thing

[Misantrop]

Quote: Eugene46

You can shout as much as you like about the sinking of the Mir, but ...
The first module was launched in the 80s and tripled its life expectancy by the end of the 90s - early 00s.

From people close to manned astronautics, I heard an interesting version of the need for flooding that station. And this is not even prohibitive wear. During an uninhabited flight (there was no money yet), the so-called black mold started up and multiplied in a sealed inhabited module. And this dirty trick, even in terrestrial conditions, is far from a gift. That's what she could mutate in conditions of hard radiation in orbit; experimentally in humans they chose not to find out ...

[El13]

Quote: Misantrop

in conditions of hard radiation in orbit

there is no hard radiation there, of course, above our background, but the cosmonauts wouldn’t fly a year differently ... The ISS built instead of Mir-2, there was such a project, but we would not have pulled it because of understandable political events, so the ISS for we became a good way out.

[Misantrop]

Quote: El13

there is no hard radiation there, of course above our background, but not much

You are mistaken. Yes, radiation belts are higher, but ... Apart from flashes of solar activity, not frequent, but very significant, there is a very dense background of the most diverse types of radiation. They are delayed by the plant’s protection and plant structures, but ... under the influence of these flows, structural materials gradually accumulate activity themselves. The so-called secondary radiation. And its quantity is the higher, the longer the object is exposed. This is another reason for the cessation of operation of the complex.

Quote: El13

otherwise the astronauts would not fly for a year ...

I, like many of my colleagues, spent almost 10 years in the reactor compartment of an underwater missile carrier. Is this the basis to claim that there are no emissions there?
Well, "our background" is also a very vague concept. In some places 2-3 micro-X-rays are already a lot. And, for example, in the Murmansk region, 15 microroentgens is a normal background radiation

[El13]

Well, let's get started ... although it’s hard to argue with the reactors, but maybe you were a loser

Quote: Misantrop

I, like many of my colleagues, spent almost 10 years in the reactor compartment of an underwater missile carrier. Is this the basis to claim that there are no emissions there?

Well, what kind of radiation is there, the biological protection took care of you, which is not available on the manned spacecraft (well, do not count as such a thin-walled shell of several millimeters, meteorite mats and a skinny heat exchanger), therefore 10 years is not a term Well, not sitting on a samovar ...

Quote: Misantrop

In some places 2-3 microroentgen - already a lot. And, for example, in the Murmansk region 15 micro-roentgen - normal radiation background

A lot - this is a lot for a given area, and not for a person, in the same Murmansk region there are no increased mutations (do not consider dwarf birch trees as such ).

there is no hard radiation there - Wrong

You are mistaken, that I am mistaken

Quote: Misantrop

structural materials themselves gradually build up activity

I don’t argue with this, I remember the repairs were done in the reactor compartment (not me), they cleaned up the old paint ... the background grew several times.

[Misantrop]

Quote: El13

maybe you were a loser

Of course, you can’t drive the honors

Quote: El13

Biological protection took care of you

I don’t know why the reactor compartment is considered UNABILABLE and even the power supply unit for servicing its systems and mechanisms has been moved to the neighboring one? I once had a sailor lay down to sleep in the left pump room in the autonomous area. And the power, like, was small, only 40%. He slept there for three hours while I found him. I didn’t scold (it makes no sense). I simply took it to the DAC and put the dosimeter-drive into the calculation (replaced the day before). Both were convinced that he had scored the floor of the BER, and this was not counting what he had breathed there. In the reactor, although there is a 32-fold air exchange per hour through the FPI, there is enough trash in the air. Especially - in stagnant areas, it was not for nothing that such a cleaning system was blinded. By the way, if you direct the stationary CRBG sensor towards the open bulkhead of the reactor at capacities of 40% and higher, the device starts to click quite intensively (therefore, it is not recommended to use the internal documents for a long time in the reactor). Well, the fact that according to the instructions when transferring the ship to another crew, reactor commanders are obliged to inspect the subunit space (and the hold after the autonomy is really hot (even purely in the temperature sense) - this is milk, rarely when more than twice a year I had to go there .

Quote: El13

they cleaned up the old paint ... the background grew several times.

That's just the paint is gaining radiation ten times faster than metal. I had to peel off the old paint precisely in order to reduce the background in adjacent rooms. But if the metal itself is built up, then it can only be washed to no avail for a long exposure in the burial grounds. Once the guys shared a box with screws and nuts ... I measured it for the sake of interest - 25-30 micro-roentgen each star. Pure metal, no paint. By the way, the background did not decrease even after rubbing it with alcohol (it was with them that it was best for them to do decontamination, oddly enough).

Well, how many things there shine in orbit, a friend told me. It was precisely in those years that he was the head of the laboratory for the automation of lowered vehicles in Baikonur, so he had more or less reliable data. It has long been true, the numbers managed to be forgotten ...

[El13]

Quote: Misantrop

That's just the paint is gaining radiation ten times faster than metal.

That's right, when they cleaned a small suspension in the air and created a preliness there ...

[Misantrop]

Quote: El13

up to 100 mSv (10 rem) - permissible emergency exposure of the population (one-time). Medical methods do not show any noticeable changes in tissues and organs.

According to our documents, up to 5 BER per year were allowed, but not more than 25 BER for the entire period of work with the III (after that they closed the admission to work with sources. There was one guy in the delivery brigade that was building my compartment for whom this order was extreme - scored 25 BER. A sensible man, competent, did not complain about anything, regretted that he would have to change his specialty. There were some features that seemed to have no effect on anything, but only a few years later, telling a medical friend about them, he found out cancer of the lymphatic system of that man already had what is called on horn ... So everything is safe for the time being ...
What is interesting, it was an assembly team of new buildings, there is still almost all the equipment is not active, where did he manage to grab? ...

[El13]

Most likely, in other works I grabbed ...

[Misantrop]

Quote: El13

grabbed at other works ...

Hardly. Then the SMP issued 1-2 nuclear submarines a year, there was no time to be distracted by other work. Is that on upgrades such as "pears", "Andromeda", etc. In those buildings, not only the reactor compartments, but also the adjacent ones, were exposed to radiation. If you delay the replacement of the core (not in terms of depletion, but in terms of activity due to depressurization of the fuel assembly), then when recharging, the compartment gets pretty dirty ... I went on a secondment on an old ship, so in an autonomous nachkhim accidentally (!) I found out that 6 compartments by activity - just a guard. I had to tear off all the paint to iron in an emergency mode in order to bring down the activity. As many as 74 bags were scraped up in the smallest compartment on the ship ...

[El13]

Quote: Misantrop

Well, how many things there shine in orbit, a friend told me.

The pilot also receives a bit more earthlings than we do, but I think that sailor got more than Krikalev in a year, although this was not fatal for him:

up to 100 mSv (10 rem) - permissible emergency exposure of the population (one-time). Medical methods do not show any noticeable changes in tissues and organs.

[avt]

Quote: El13

The ISS was built instead of Mir-2, there was such a project, but we would not have pulled it due to understandable political events, so the ISS was a good way out for us.

All these "events" are only in one, all our stations worked for the defense of the USSR, starting with the development of "Almaz". And these dragons and snakes are private after shuttles, Buran, BORA and SPIRAL, complete bullshit. Running in a bag in place. And the WORLD was drowned - even the equipment was not allowed to be removed by the amers ....... The ISS is so, until the end of the manned Russian cosmonautics, they will not die, hold at least a small part of what it was. There is nothing to rejoice here.

[Averias]

Quote: djon3volta

It seems to me that the ISS is not only engaged in scientific experiments

It’s easier to say this: What they just don’t do.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: djon3volta

Martian photos also retouch. In addition, they don’t want people to tell the truth.

The latest NASA published images of the surface of Mars, convincingly prove that there has never been water on the red planet

[djon3volta]

read it, the news came out 5 days ago.
More than six months have passed since the largest American rover “Curiosity” (“Curiosity”) softly sank to the surface of Mars in the crater of Gale, located on the equator of the planet ...
But now, a quarter of the planned time has passed, and there is no widely publicized news flow. It is impossible to consider as a “sensation” a photo of rounded pebbles in the dry channel of a small stream, because the American Vikings photographed the valleys of the grand rivers 40 years ago on Mars. In these dry valleys, pebbles and boulders are, of course, abundant.

Not suitable for sensation and "wells" in Martian soil a few centimeters deep. It is known that the Soviet “Lunarians” drilled about 30 cm lunar soil (regolith) half a century ago. This core was delivered to the USSR by automatic stations, it is stored and analyzed at the Institute of Geochemistry and Analytical Chemistry of the Russian Academy of Sciences in Moscow, and it was also sent to scientific laboratories of other countries.

What could the Americans find out at the moment with the help of their Curiosity? For example, the fact that the water content in the soil of the crater is small and is only about 2%. This water is not free, it is part of red iron hydroxides, and water should not be sought here, but at the bottom of the Mariner Gorge ...

That seems to be all the achievements of Curiosity. Frankly, not a lot. Not that we expected from an ultramodern station. But is it really so? Is a clever calculation behind the void of the information field?

and the most delicious read in the article, I specifically quoted a piece. http://www.ng.ru/science/2013-02-27/9_mars.html

[djon3volta]

read it, the news came out 5 days ago.
More than six months have passed since the largest American rover “Curiosity” (“Curiosity”) softly sank to the surface of Mars in the crater of Gale, located on the equator of the planet ...
But now, a quarter of the planned time has passed, and there is no widely publicized news flow. It is impossible to consider as a “sensation” a photo of rounded pebbles in the dry channel of a small stream, because the American Vikings photographed the valleys of the grand rivers 40 years ago on Mars. In these dry valleys, pebbles and boulders are, of course, abundant.

Not suitable for sensation and "wells" in Martian soil a few centimeters deep. It is known that the Soviet “Lunarians” drilled about 30 cm lunar soil (regolith) half a century ago. This core was delivered to the USSR by automatic stations, it is stored and analyzed at the Institute of Geochemistry and Analytical Chemistry of the Russian Academy of Sciences in Moscow, and it was also sent to scientific laboratories of other countries.

What could the Americans find out at the moment with the help of their Curiosity? For example, the fact that the water content in the soil of the crater is small and is only about 2%. This water is not free, it is part of red iron hydroxides, and water should not be sought here, but at the bottom of the Mariner Gorge ...

That seems to be all the achievements of Curiosity. Frankly, not a lot. Not that we expected from an ultramodern station. But is it really so? Is a clever calculation behind the void of the information field?

and the most delicious read in the article, I specifically quoted a piece. http://www.ng.ru/science/2013-02-27/9_mars.html

Is that why Americans are encrypted?

[Pimply]

Do you visit the project site at least occasionally?

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/

[djon3volta]

Quote: Pimply

Do you visit the project site at least occasionally?

I drop in 1-2 times a month. And you read my reference, and then tell me what you think. I am 100% sure that the Americans do not conclude a lot.
By the way, I’m wondering why such a technologically advanced Mars rover can’t shoot a video, at least B / W and send it to the ground? 50 years ago it was possible, but not now? Is it like that? I’m thinking that Americans have a lot of video from Mars, only this question is somehow not raised anywhere, or filtered. Because if you take a panorama on a video and show it to everyone .. although no one will show it, they will pay off that it’s impossible to shoot a video even for 10 seconds

[Pimply]

Yeah, we sing a conspiracy thesis

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: djon3volta

Mars rover "Curiosity" ("Curiosity") gently sank to the surface of Mars in Gale Crater, located on the equator of the planet ...

[YuDDP]

Here you can see just how the aliens saved us:

[APASUS]

For me, this Dragon is just as raw a product as their planes !! Americans need to be the first in the prestige race and they don’t really bother with things like finishing their units !!
Upgrading and fixing bugs go hand in hand!

[Serdykov]

But what if it was like a private ship? Would ameronauts allow us to fly up to the ISS body? It seems to me that such a high would be raised.

[dld35057]

Well, a private trader in space cannot solve even a little bit of the problem - he can’t. this is a task only for governments and countries claiming. and only the state government can determine why we finally need all the ent. The private person can only give an idea - and only the state can realize. And finally why we need all the ents - jps-glns who say - HERE - are afraid ssuts want to dump here on earth and are afraid of the whores of the earthly court. In general, let the enta pelvis hang out like an thorn in these super supermen.

[Mikhail3]

This sub-dragon uses open-circuit engines. Each launch is a lottery. If it will carry people - only Americans! We do not have extra astronauts to play famous roulette. What can’t you do to successfully play on the stock exchange! For example, why not stash NASA’s rejected, dead-end engine, collect money from exchanges and have some fun? Well, it will pop - what’s there, space is a delicate matter ...

[Saraev]

This event in Roscosmos celebrated another banquet with a ritual beating of bottles on their heads!

[eagle owl]

It’s necessary to do your own station. And do not let any dragons to it.

[Averias]

So our Phobos-Grunt bounced back on them.

[Megadan]

How can a reusable spacecraft experiencing tremendous loads during flight guarantee stability?
Perhaps the States are again stepping on the same rake as with the program Space shuttle.

[Drugar]

The specialists of the private company SpaceX fixed the problems on the Dragon spaceship. The co-founder of the company Elon Musk (Elon Musk) said this on his twitter.

Two of the four groups of ship engines in which malfunctions were previously detected earned. This was enough to begin the disclosure of solar panels.

Dragon spaceship launched to the ISS from Cape Canaveral at 19:10 Moscow time. NASA conducted an online broadcast of the launch. Dragon is supposed to deliver 575 kilograms of payload to the ISS. After docking with the space station, a space truck is brought into the Pacific Ocean on March 25.

The flight takes place as part of the second commercial mission "SpaceX 2". In total, SpaceX is expected to complete 12 flights under a contract with NASA.

The Dragon made its first commercial flight on October 8, 2012, delivering 450 kilograms of cargo to the ISS. After completing the mission, Dragon successfully splashed in the Pacific. This was the first commercial space flight of a private spacecraft in history.

Earlier, in May 2012, the Dragon spacecraft made the very first test flight to the ISS. At that time there was no payload on the ship.

[TS3sta3]

it’s necessary, like a new pepelats, but it doesn’t work as it should. even the Chinese did not fall to that level ..

[Pimply]

In fact, Dragon has already docked with the ISS, the news is late.

[Drugar]

This is not news, but simply a desire to mock the problems of the Americans ... even if they have already fixed everything, but this is not a reason ..

[El13]

It is the only space truck in the world capable of returning to Earth, all the others burn up in the dense salts of the atmosphere.

And nothing sho "Progress-M" has been sitting down with a load for a hundred years (albeit a little ~ 100kg, but not the point) ...

[fenix57]

"... the truck that started from Cape Canaveral at 19:10 Moscow time did not fire three of its four engines ..." -sho and there counterfeit and assembly in garages .......