In the Verkhovna Rada, deputies stated that “the Russians deliberately lulled vigilance by not striking military educational institutions”

The Ukrainian Prosecutor General's office has published official statistics on the number of people killed in the Russian strike on the military communications institute in Poltava. The report says "51 people have died."

At the same time, the regional department of the State Emergency Service is publishing information online that up to now, at the site of the Russian missiles’ landings (there were two landings with a difference of about a minute), every 15-20 minutes a “minute of silence” is declared so that those under the rubble can be heard.

From the message of the Poltava State Emergency Service:

More than 200 rescuers and 50 units of equipment are working at the site. 440 tons of construction waste have already been removed from the site.

It is reported that an operational communications hub - a Starlink terminal and generators - have been deployed at the site of the impact due to the lack of power supply.

An interesting message from the head of the intensive care unit of the Poltava Regional Hospital:

All those who were hospitalized in the intensive care unit of the regional hospital were unconscious and unidentified.

At the same time, there is increasing indirect evidence that at the Poltava Institute of Communications at the time of the attack there were, among others, several NATO instructors who had arrived there to train Ukrainian Armed Forces servicemen in the principles of working with electronic warfare systems supplied by Western countries. Even if they were identified (in the morgue or intensive care unit), they will go unidentified. Unless, in 1,5-2 months, it turns out from the foreign press that they died, "stumbling during a vacation in the mountains"...

Meanwhile, in Ukraine, they are discussing statements by individual MPs that “the Russians deliberately lulled vigilance” and did not strike major military educational institutions of Ukraine for a long time. And when the command “relaxed as much as possible”, having gathered hundreds of soldiers within the walls and/or on the parade ground, a strike followed, as a result of which the loss count in the Ukrainian Armed Forces is in the hundreds, including 300 and those remaining under the rubble.

By the way, if the Prosecutor General's Office officially announced 51 deaths, then in reality these figures could be 2-3 times higher.

Comments

[foxes]

Oh, these treacherous Russians...

[The black]

Even if we hypothetically assume that there were only cadets there, so what? In fact, they were enemy soldiers, what's wrong, jumpers?.....

[Msi]

there were only cadets there, and what

What do you mean? We can congratulate the relatives and friends of these cadets. They raised such ghouls and vampires...

[Egoza]

Quote from Msi

They raised such ghouls and vampires...

In fact, they have declared mourning in Ukraine! They are writing "Poltava... a terrible tragedy for the entire nation"

[Lev_Russia]

"The Russians deliberately lulled people's vigilance by not striking military educational institutions"

Well, yes... Like in the joke... I've been collecting you swans on this ship for three years...

[SSR]

In fact, these are enemy soldiers, what's wrong, jumpers?.....

Military universities were not touched until the attack on the Kursk region.

[unhappy]

There was a message, in 10 days the plan was to release them, these were already trained military specialists - electronic warfare systems and communication systems.

[dmi.pris1]

Well, they did hit the school in Lvov. Last year, I think. It wasn't a lull in vigilance, it was just at the right time and on target. They need to work on other similar objects. Only now they'll be more careful.

[UAZ 452]

The main thing is that the leadership of Russian military universities should be more careful - I don’t think that our facilities are better protected than Ukrainian ones, and now, I’m afraid, they will become a priority target for the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

[vkfriendly]

They will study at home)) I would also beat schools at night, who knows who is hiding behind the backs of civilians somewhere in the assembly hall or sports hall. These ghouls do not consider us and our children as people, even their mothers wish death on our children, what kind of creatures are these Ukrainians and why do they still exist - this .... people.

[Donna_Rosa_dAlvadores]

The Swedes have already confirmed that at least one of their instructors was killed. There is no information about the others yet (Soloviev in Telegram)

[suhorukofal]

Quote: Donna_Rosa_dAlvadores

The Swedes have already confirmed that at least one of their instructors was killed.

The Swede died near Poltava. Hmm.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: suhorukofal

Quote: Donna_Rosa_dAlvadores

The Swedes have already confirmed that at least one of their instructors was killed.

The Swede died near Poltava. Hmm.

In the city of Poltava there is already a Swedish grave full of dead Swedes. The name of the street is "Swedish grave", the bus stop, and the actual grave of the Swedes defeated by the Russian army under the leadership of the Russian Emperor Peter the Great.

[suhorukofal]

Quote: 30 vis

There is already a Swedish grave in the city of Poltava

Yes, the SVO remembered all sorts of graves, they decided to repeat history and visit us.

Quote: 30 vis

under the leadership of the Russian Emperor Peter the Great

I remember the Northern War because of how hard we started, how hard it was at first and how we ended, having learned from our mistakes. Now everything will turn out the same way, because here many people can't stop crying about how bad everything is. I think we will arrange more than one such day for both the "Swedes" and the Armed Forces of Ukraine

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

A military sharaga with at least 1k pigs was operating quite openly for 3 years in war conditions. And it worked!

[suhorukofal]

Now I looked on the Internet about this "Institute of Communications". During the Soviet Union it was one of the best. Well, now they have decommunized it. You can immediately see who edits Wikipedia, they write that 40 people were killed and 200 wounded.

[pharmacist]

The invaders have their own quirks. The Swedes at Poltava, the Poles at Smolensk, the Hungarians at Voronezh, etc.

[suhorukofal]

Quote from Pharmacist

Poles - near Smolensk, Hungarians - near Voronezh

No, no, we don't need them, let them kill themselves and hide with their Ukrainian buddies. Or better yet, let them sit at home, I hope the experience of this migrant worker will be a lesson for others. Although what lessons do they need, several centuries of experience, and they still stick their noses in.

[Grancer81]

According to the theory, a criminal is always drawn to the scene of the crime. So the Swedes were drawn to Poltava.

[usr01]

"The Russians deliberately lulled people's vigilance"

Ah, why can't you do that? Should you have warned me?

[Montezuma]

Quote: usr01

"The Russians deliberately lulled people's vigilance"

But the Ukrainian Wehrmacht figured out this insidious plan and decided to test in practice how confident the Russians were that they had succeeded. It turned out that they had indeed succeeded.

[Montezuma]

From the message of the Telegram channel of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine:

Today Poltava is experiencing a terrible day. The Russian aggressor delivered a barbaric blow to one of the initial deposits of the place.

According to obvious information, the enemy is facing two ballistic missiles. The hour-long interval between the alarm and the influx of deadly missiles was so short that it caught people at the moment of evacuation before the bomb scare.

One of the buildings of the institute was often destroyed, and many people fell under the rubble. The blessings of the military and medical workers It was possible to recover 25 individuals, of which 11 were unblocked from the rubble.

The ritualists will continue to chew the robot.

That is, they rescued only 25 "hijackers" and instructors (of which 11 were pulled out from under the rubble), from the entire school, but officially they say that "51 people died"? Deceitful figures, clearly understate the losses.

[rocket757]

In the Verkhovna Rada, deputies stated that “the Russians deliberately lulled vigilance by not striking military educational institutions”

And what... settle your invaders in dugouts.

[suhorukofal]

Victor, this is what we discussed in the next topic. We are not fighting by the rules. Russian barbarians.

[rocket757]

War has its own rules, and with morals and principles, everything is more complicated... it’s not that they are completely different, they have to be interpreted and applied differently!
As an example... all military artillery schools of the enemy must be leveled to the ground level and this will be rational, logical from any side because their artillerymen, commanders, are complete non-humans, as civilians everywhere, along the entire line of confrontation, have had to be convinced of more than once!
The question is, what doubts, questions can there be... the enemy's military infrastructure, everything that takes part in servicing it, is the TARGET!
Oh yeah, morality... destroying hospitals is beyond morality, everyone admits it, but not everyone does it... that's also how it is done by non-humans/evil spirits.

[suhorukofal]

Quote: rocket757

All military artillery schools of the enemy must be leveled to ground level

I completely agree with you, they make me the most nervous.
I got the impression that our command actually observed the principles and framework to some extent, including in relation to this school. Something served as a trigger, the invasion of Kursk, the recent massive drone attack, the attitude towards civilians in the Kursk region. Although it is still too early to draw any conclusions based on just one strike. Perhaps this is a warning of where we can reach if there are such strikes on objects.

[rocket757]

The Kukuevskys, or rather their owners, are not limited by anything... they sit far away and everything is OK with them, because even the difficulties of their country and especially their population do not concern them in any way, do not affect their well-being.
As for our management observing some rules, or even a deal... everything is very murky, believe it or not...

[Khibiny Plastun]

Now, I think that the Banderites will strike at the long-suffering Belgorod, take it out on the civilians. The Banderite chiefs are not afraid of retribution, we have Putin.

[Olesya Lesya]

They cover Belgorod and Donetsk every day without a military school.

[Khibiny Plastun]

And they are constantly dying, including children, and this is all thanks to our Irreplaceable, I cannot understand how he has enough conscience to protect bridges and really critical infrastructure of Banderovites. And calmly accept the death of young guys, who have never seen life, whom he sent to the slaughter. If you started the game, then do everything in your power so that the victory is not Pyrrhic. And do not turn into the Wedding General.

[suhorukofal]

And before that, they didn’t touch Belgorod on principle, so that they wouldn’t be hit?
I've already joked about such a "strategist". It's scary to fight with you, you'll be afraid to shoot at the enemy, otherwise he might respond.

[MARGADON]

In war, as in war! We don't intend to play with trinkets!

[Irokez]

"stumbled while on holiday in the mountains"

No. They heard the alarm and jumped out of the window shouting "Russian missiles are flying."

[Msi]

the Russians put them to sleep on purpose

They put us to sleep forever... Now the demons have returned to their home, to hell...

[Michael]

Any place where more than 50 troops are gathered is a legitimate military target. If they are so concentrated, they are obviously up to something.

[Volodin]

Quote: Michael

Any place where more than 50 military personnel are concentrated is a legitimate military target.

But if there are 49 or, say, 38 enemy servicemen, is that not a legitimate military target? Your arithmetic is a bit strange, forgive me.

[Michael]

Quote: Volodin

But if there are 49 or, say, 38 enemy servicemen, is that not a legitimate military target? Your arithmetic is a bit strange, forgive me.

Just limit the scope. If a couple of servicemen are alone in a motel, or if a couple dozen servicemen are spending the night in this motel - do you agree that there is a difference?
There aren't enough Iskanders for everyone.

[BAI]

And 1 general, 1 Budanov, 1 Zelensky - are they not legal targets?

[Michael]

Quote: BAI

And 1 general, 1 Budanov, 1 Zelensky - are they not legal targets?

It turns out that no.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

And what are those "under the rubble" doing?.. Singing "who doesn't jump..."? Actually, our missilemen are doing great! Keep it up!

[digger]

there the missile men have the last small simple role - just to react quickly, that is, prepare the launcher for launch and immediately press the button and that's it. The main job of intelligence \ intelligence agents behind enemy lines, in short, is spotters and controllers of the strike from the side near the object, as well as those who provide instant communication between them for a timely strike.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Excavator, sorry, I didn't think. And the scouts are great. Thanks for the tip.

[Olesya Lesya]

That's how we Russians are, we keep putting to sleep and putting to sleep, we're too kind. It's time to eat the beast of the Ministry of Defense. But there are no 50 dead - that's a big lie, there are 5 times more and the number will only grow when they pull them out piece by piece.

[Last centurion]

Quote: Donna_Rosa_dAlvadores

The Swedes have already confirmed that at least one of their instructors was killed. There is no information about the others yet (Soloviev in Telegram)

The Swedes have a tradition of sometimes killing themselves near Poltava...

[EvilCommunist]

More than 200 rescuers, 50 units of equipment and 20 employees of the TCC are working at the site.

[Split]

Quote: EvilCommunist

20 employees of the TCC

The wounded immediately to the front?

[abrakadabre]

More than 200 rescuers and 50 pieces of equipment are working at the site.

One Iskander with a cassette warhead is just asking for it.

[Andobor]

Yes, the Supreme is definitely to blame for everything, he feels sorry for the non-brothers, that’s why they lost their sense of smell.

[Msi]

He feels sorry for his non-brothers, that's why they've lost their sense of smell.

Look what I found about non-brothers...

Pigs have poor eyesight but an excellent sense of smell.
Pigs can see things on the sides of their heads. This helps them spot food, other pigs, and potential predators, but they are not very good at seeing things that are directly in front of them.

[gmss]

It's very nice to read such news

[Gvardeetz77]

Quote: abrakadabre

More than 200 rescuers and 50 pieces of equipment are working at the site.

One Iskander with a cassette warhead is just asking for it.

It's a bit late, there are mostly rescuers there and not Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers, it would be good to start shooting at the barracks in 15-30 minutes and up to an hour after the first landing, at this time (before the arrival of the main mass of rescuers) the maximum number of surviving soldiers were clearing the rubble on their own, trying to save those who were under it.
When our barracks (in the 90s) collapsed, five minutes later (after the initial shock) all the uninjured, as well as those from other units, began to clear the rubble and within the first hour they pulled out the maximum number of victims who ultimately survived. Then the Emergencies Ministry workers began to work (according to the official version, ten minutes after the collapse, but in reality, almost an hour later, since their "work" was calculated from the time the first fire brigade arrived, and not from the rescuers themselves) and mostly pulled out the dead. So it was a bit late, rescuers are not combatants

[Grancer81]

In medicine there is a concept called "golden hour". The faster help is provided, the higher the probability of survival of the victim.

[Fisher]

They should have added it since there was such a pile of equipment there.

[Pavel57]

Our liberals are also shedding tears over the victims in Poltava.

[UAZ 452]

Of course, military educational institutions of one of the parties to the conflict are a legitimate target for the other, but this rule works both ways. Somehow I am not sure that our military universities are protected from enemy attacks better than Ukrainian ones are from ours. So it is very likely that in the coming days they will also be attacked (I predict that it will not even occur to the leadership to cancel, at least temporarily, the formations, to disperse the cadets from the barracks). However, in this case, of course, this will be another outrageous crime of the Kyiv regime, a terrorist attack, which the entire world community will simply have to condemn.

[Bayun]

Conclusion?

"Flash mob" technologies are coming. "On the whistle" fighters gather "on civilian life" in hangars and assembly areas to previously delivered equipment with equipment and weapons. And then with a daring mechanized forced march they grab 1000 sq. km of enemy territory. This could be a "road wedge" of 100x10 km or something like a 50x20 km bridgehead.

[stankow]

This has already happened. The regiment mobilized in three days, the division in 11.

[suhorukofal]

They could have just as easily hit any military unit, the VVUZ is no different. By the way, there was experience in Lugansk. The question is what they can hit with, how far and what can we counter with? What are the capabilities of the enemy. And also, this is an indicator of the work of their air defense.

[Shuridze]

Are there any moderators at all on "VO"? "However, in this case, of course it will be" - "VO", finally get down to cleaning up already. You have a license for a Russian media outlet, don't let it go to the nameplate.
In the comments, a lot of those who are against the Russian state, the military-political leadership and specifically the Supreme Leader, are mimicking in one way or another, and are not engaged in consolidating society, but in left-wing radical propaganda against our country, using the Soviet period of Russian history as a battering ram against Russia: Russia is opposed to Russia.

Wake up, finally, only a blind person would not see in the last sentence of the speaker above the subtext that the screen began to ooze myrrh.

[UAZ 452]

What are you so excited about? I understand perfectly well that during... non-war (only the leadership can call their own war, the rest can at least get a fine for it) there is no way around double standards, there are ours and others, and that's normal. But is it worth taking this to the point of absurdity? Not everyone, like you, is so ready to classify as a tsipsoshnik or samoyed anyone who expresses, for example, bewilderment - how is it that a gathering of drug addicts and degenerates called the Armed Forces of Ukraine has been successfully resisting the second army in the world for three years? However, if someone feels more comfortable with a TV between their ears, then fine.

[Avinor]

I just read that Moseychuk stated that there were six hundred killed and wounded. Although of course it's hard to believe this swine, but the figure is clearly much higher than "51 killed."

[Esaul]

Every 15-20 minutes a "minute of silence" is announced so that those under the rubble can be heard

Then we need to launch another Iskander there every 15-20 minutes to break the silence.

[Slon_on]

If they squeal, it means the missile strike has achieved its goals. I would like it to be on the bridges across the Dnieper and not just once.

[Incvizitor]

More than 200 rescuers and 50 units of equipment are working at the site.

There should be a couple more Iskanders there so that they don’t dare dig up the fascists.

[Serafim]

Warn them in advance that they are coming, and they will scatter. Warn them again in an hour. And so on several times until they stop reacting. And only then...

[Comrade Beria]

There are more and more reports that as a result of the missile strike on the communications training center in Poltava Czech specialists eliminated, who trained Ukrainian military personnel.

[Mista_dj]

It's a pity that there are survivors.

[Cicerist98]

A good strike, as far as I can tell... However, such strikes must be carried out regularly, everyday or on most days at least, rather than once in a blue moon - if you want to actually win, that is, and not get stuck in an endless quagmire (which will NOT end well for Russia).

[501 Legion]

but they could have hit with a cassette now so that there would be more victims, but they would have been doctors and rescuers, no one does that. Well done.

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

If you love Bandera, you must love Iskander.

[Teledroid]

When will they finally stop sparing Iskander for Zelensky? I'm tired of waiting!

[ask]

It was a good bang, effective! They should also bang the old building of the Vasilkovsky VATU near the checkpoint. The headquarters of the air defense of the country is located there (as of 2011). The building is really old, somewhere in the 40s of the last century, maybe earlier, brick, with walls about 1 m thick and a good basement. It is unlikely to fall apart like the Poltava school, they built it strong then...

[Wizzzard]

At the same time, more and more indirect evidence that at the time of the strike, among others, there were people at the communications institute in Poltava several NATO instructors

Phew... When will we get a Pole with the enemy's native language, without indirect will they present evidence?

[Wizzzard]

Quote: Donna_Rosa_dAlvadores

The Swedes have already confirmed that at least one of their instructors was killed. There is no information about the others yet ( Solovyov in telegram)

Soloviev... Well, this one won't lie!

[Stardock]

Before this shelling, there was probably an unspoken policy not to touch military educational institutions.
Today, this threshold has been crossed. We are waiting for a response.
Next, there will probably be bridges, train stations, government offices.
The war is escalating.
There is constant talk about the use of nuclear weapons.
And of course, everyone is sure that it will not affect him.
War is somewhere there, far from his cozy sofa.
But rockets don't think so.