Sorry, our hands are a bit tied: Mongolia explains to the West its refusal to arrest Putin

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Sorry, our hands are a bit tied: Mongolia explains to the West its refusal to arrest Putin

Today, September 3, a meeting between Russian President Vladimir Putin and his Mongolian counterpart Ukhnaagiin Khurelsukh took place in Ulaanbaatar. At the same time, contrary to demands from a number of Western countries, the Russian leader was not arrested immediately upon arrival in Mongolia, which has already caused a storm of criticism against the authorities of this country.

Let us recall that Mongolia is a member of the ICC and is obliged to comply with its orders. In particular, to execute the arrest warrant for the Russian leader, issued on March 17 last year in The Hague.



In turn, the Mongolian authorities have already explained their position in an anonymous comment to Politico.

The article states that Ulaanbaatar explained its refusal to comply with the ICC's demand by its strong energy dependence on the Russian Federation. As anonymous sources of the publication's journalists explained, 95% of the oil products and 20% of the electricity consumed by the country come from the territory of its "closest neighbors." These supplies are of crucial importance for the full functioning of the state.

Sorry, our hands are a little tied.

- Mongolian authorities stated.

Let us recall that earlier, after a meeting with the Mongolian leader, the Russian President сообщил on the complete readiness of the design documentation for the Soyuz Vostok gas pipeline. This pipeline, passing through Mongolia, will become part of the Power of Siberia-2 gas pipeline, which will connect Russia and China.
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  1. +62
    3 September 2024 17: 12
    I don't like the answer. I could have just told him to go to hell, but this leaves a bad taste in his mouth.
    1. +5
      3 September 2024 17: 15
      The black hiWell, it seems like they signed this statute voluntarily, and their arms weren’t twisted, that’s why they’re responding this way.
      1. +24
        3 September 2024 17: 20
        in an anonymous comment to Politico.

        Actually, excuse me, if you believe "Anonymous" or "Politico", you don't respect yourself...
        1. +2
          3 September 2024 17: 54
          Quote: Lev_Russia
          in an anonymous comment to Politico.

          Actually, excuse me, if you believe "Anonymous" or "Politico", you don't respect yourself...

          Correct. As the saying goes: Each will be rewarded according to his deeds...
          1. +3
            3 September 2024 19: 14
            ...well yes, it will pay off... and the valve will be welded to the pipe, it wasn't for nothing that the project was approved.)
            1. man
              +2
              3 September 2024 20: 34
              Quote from Egeni
              ...well yes, it will pay off... and the valve will be welded to the pipe, it wasn't for nothing that the project was approved.)

              Yeah, and Mongolia promised to pay for the gas with missiles and build a cruiser
              1. -1
                3 September 2024 21: 00
                ...................kumys.)
                1. +2
                  4 September 2024 14: 09
                  They might also offer dung))) If there's a lot of gas)))
              2. +20
                3 September 2024 21: 27
                Quote: mann
                Quote from Egeni
                ...well yes, it will pay off... and the valve will be welded to the pipe, it wasn't for nothing that the project was approved.)

                Yeah, and Mongolia promised to pay for the gas with missiles and build a cruiser

                Mongolia was the first country in the world to officially declare its assistance to the USSR in the fight against the fascist invaders.

                And it was not just a statement, it was real help. And gratuitous. Considering the economic state of the country and industrial underdevelopment, the help was colossal. Not everyone understands what Mongolia was like in the middle of the 700th century. It is a country with a population of about 000 people. About the same as Ulyanovsk today. Almost the only thing the USSR had to pay for was horses. Almost half a million hardy and unpretentious (437 according to documents, to be exact) horses were sold by Mongolia at government prices. Mongolia was the main supplier of wool, sheepskin, leather, and cashmere to the USSR. Officers' short fur coats and soldiers' greatcoats were made from it. In Soviet films, you can often see officers in white sheepskin coats - this is precisely the symbolic mark of Mongolia's assistance to the Red Army. During the Great Patriotic War, the Mongolian People's Republic dressed the Red Army in sheepskin coats.

                The only country that provided $158 million in aid to the USSR during WWII was Mongolia
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                March 17 2022
                History and life teach us that friends are known in trouble. War is the greatest disaster that can happen in the life of an individual and in the life of a state and people as a whole. And this is exactly the time when friends are needed.

                Namely friends, and not allies or partners, who seem to help, but help for money, and come to help when it is already clear who will win. In general, let's not point fingers.

                My article today will be dedicated to Mongolia, which for some reason is so little spoken about in textbooks and history classes. But Mongolia is the first country in the world to officially declare its assistance to the USSR in the fight against the fascist invaders.

                And this was not just a statement, this was real help. And gratuitous. Considering the economic state of the country and its industrial underdevelopment, the help was colossal. Mongolian women and men worked overtime and on weekends in factories and plants. They themselves were underfed, but they sent hundreds of tons of meat, wool and other products to the front in the USSR. Including money, gold and natural resources.

                Unknown artist "The Beginning of Brotherly Friendship".
                Not everyone understands what Mongolia was like in the mid-700th century. It is a country with a population of about 000 people. About the same as Ulyanovsk today. Now try to imagine the scale of the invaluable assistance that Mongolia provided to the USSR during the Great Patriotic War.

                According to the recollections of some grandfathers who ended the war on the Eastern Front, defeating Japanese troops, if it were not for Mongolia, the Red Army would have died of hunger.

                Tanks and planes
                Mongolia did not have a developed industry and could not supply tanks, artillery guns and aircraft to the USSR, but with the money collected by Mongolian workers (4,5 million tugriks, $100 and 000 kg of gold) a tank column "Revolutionary Mongolia" was created, consisting of 300 T-32 and 34 T-21 tanks, and an air squadron "Mongolian Arat" of 70 La-12 combat aircraft. In addition, the Mongolian side took on the obligation to maintain them, spending 5 million tugriks ($6 thousand) on this during the war.

                For the Americans, these were insignificant funds, and nevertheless, they did not supply anything free or gratuitous to the USSR, but for Mongolia, this was a huge amount of money.

                Horses
                Almost the only thing the USSR had to pay for was horses. Almost half a million hardy and unpretentious (437 according to documents, to be exact) horses were sold by Mongolia at government prices. Horses were very valuable due to the shortage of trucks and equipment and were used as draft animals (for the redeployment of weapons and ammunition) and in cavalry troops.

                The USSR's losses in horses during the Great Patriotic War amounted to about 8 million heads. Mongolian horses were at the front, in the cadre and partisan units, or replenished ruined farms in Ukraine, Belarus, and Russia.

                Soviet cavalry on Mongolian horses.
                Another 20 horses were given to the Soviet Union free of charge by the Mongolian population, which, among other things, sent individual gifts to the front-line soldiers (more about them below).

                Food
                Mongolia was the main supplier of wool, sheepskin, leather, and cashmere to the USSR. Officers' sheepskin coats and soldiers' greatcoats were made from it. In Soviet films, you can often see officers in white sheepskin coats - this is precisely the symbolic mark of Mongolia's assistance to the Red Army.

                The goods sent to the USSR by the first echelons were produced as a result of overtime work at night and on weekends.
                According to experts, Mongolia supplied more wool and meat to the USSR free of charge than the USA did under Lend-Lease. The following was supplied:

                622 tons of meat
                54 wild goats slaughtered
                168,5 tons of animal fat
                20 tons of pork
                174 tons of sausages
                67,5 thousand fur coats
                74,5 fur vests
                almost 90 thousand pairs of felt boots
                11200 army greatcoats
                129 tons of laundry soap
                and a host of other goods, including belts, mittens, scarves, saddles, leather coats, jams, canned goods, felt for yurts, which was especially prized by the partisans, for a total of 42,5 million rubles (more than $8 million). And I will remind you of all this for free! Every fifth soldier from 1942 to 1945 wore a Mongolian greatcoat. but goodness must be remembered. And repay in kind.
                1. +2
                  3 September 2024 22: 46
                  For the Americans, these were insignificant funds, and yet they did not supply anything free or gratuitous to the USSR.

                  Free Lend-Lease during the war amounted to 11 billion dollars. In terms of gold at the prices of that time, this is 11 thousand tons of gold - half of the world's gold reserves at the beginning of the war.
                  1. +1
                    4 September 2024 07: 35
                    I don’t know about the free lend-lease, but the Americans certainly didn’t become poorer from this aid:
                    "The gold reserves of the USA also grew significantly: if in 1938 it was 13,0 thousand tons, then in 1945 it had already reached 17,7 thousand tons. For the USA, Lend-Lease became an incentive for fantastic economic development, ensuring the mass sale of American goods on foreign markets. The standard of living of Americans increased sharply during the war: average earnings increased by 70%, unemployment practically disappeared. If in 1940 8,1 million people were unemployed, then by 1942 the US economy had absorbed the entire unemployed labor force reserve, and full employment was maintained in the country until the end of the war..."
                    1. -2
                      4 September 2024 10: 08
                      And they were supposed to become poor? The country got out of the depression and developed as it had developed before the depression.
                      For the United States, Lend-Lease became a stimulus for fantastic economic development, ensuring the mass sale of American goods on foreign markets.

                      There was no "sales of goods" for the USA as a state. Lend-lease during the war was completely free for the recipients of aid and was paid for by the producers themselves by the United States.
                      1. +2
                        4 September 2024 14: 29
                        Quote from solar
                        The country emerged from the depression and developed as it had developed before the depression.

                        How did they get out? Did aliens deliver thousands of tons of gold to them? Or did they stand at the machines 24/7 for free?
                        And what about reparations? With the gold reserves of European countries? With the establishment of the dollar as the world currency?)))
                        There is nothing free, especially among capitalists. And if you don't understand what and how you will pay, it doesn't mean that everything is free)))
                      2. 0
                        4 September 2024 18: 53
                        The USSR was the first to receive reparations.
                        With the gold reserves of European countries?

                        And what about the gold reserves? Write in more detail - whose, how much and when.
                        Spain's gold reserves were received by the USSR, if you didn't know.
                        How did they get out like that?

                        Obviously, not by giving away goods to other countries for free. If it were that simple, then here is a ready-made recipe - produce goods and give them away for free. But for some reason, no one is in a hurry to follow it.
                        Or did they stand at the machines 24 hours a day for free?

                        And they stood behind the machines. They produced 15 thousand-ton Liberty ships faster than the Germans could sink them, three a day. The record was the construction of a huge ship in 4 days.
                      3. 0
                        5 September 2024 09: 05
                        Quote from solar
                        The USSR was the first to receive reparations.

                        Yes, $20 billion in total, of which $10 went to the USSR, $10 to the other allies. The US received 30% of the $10 billion, along with England)))
                        Quote from solar
                        And what about the gold reserves? Write in more detail - whose, how much and when.
                        Spain's gold reserves were received by the USSR, if you didn't know.

                        Where did the gold reserves of France, Italy and other European countries go?)))
                        Regarding France, De Gaulle later greatly upset them, for which Westerners still hate him)) But according to the plan, the US squeezed out all its gold.

                        Quote from solar
                        Obviously, not by giving away goods to other countries for free. If it were that simple, then here is a ready-made recipe - produce goods and give them away for free. But for some reason, no one is in a hurry to follow it.

                        Well, you're starting to spread some sound thoughts. Obviously there was a deal, even if not right away and not entirely obvious)))
                        Quote from solar
                        And they stood behind the machines.

                        Aliens? For free? That was the question. You have to pay for your work, especially in the US. It was in besieged Leningrad that they made tanks and shells for bread. But not in Europe and the US.
                        It is pointless to deny that as a result of WW2 the USA became the world hegemon. This was the purpose of Lend-Lease. And the fixation of the dollar as the world currency is the biggest reward for that Lend-Lease, which feeds the USA to this day, parasitizing on the whole world. So, they have already recouped Lend-Lease thousands of times over. And you say, FOR FREE)))
                      4. 0
                        5 September 2024 09: 08
                        Yes, $20 billion in total, of which $10 billion was the USSR,

                        The USSR received 16 billion of them. In gold equivalent - 14 thousand tons of gold.
                        ...The value of the seizures from the Soviet occupation zone and the GDR amounted, according to estimates by the Federal Ministry for Internal Affairs, to a total of 15,8 billion dollars[4], which is equivalent to approximately 14 tons of gold...
                      5. 0
                        5 September 2024 09: 24
                        Quote from solar
                        The USSR received 16 billion of them. In gold equivalent - 14 thousand tons of gold.
                        ...The value of the seizures from the Soviet occupation zone and the GDR amounted, according to estimates by the Federal Ministry for Internal Affairs, to a total of 15,8 billion dollars[4], which is equivalent to approximately 14 tons of gold...

                        These are already other material values. I am specifically talking about monetary payments. 20 divided 10/10. The US received $3 billion.
                      6. 0
                        5 September 2024 09: 52
                        Can you provide a link - where did you get this information? There is no information anywhere about cash payments in such a volume.
                      7. 0
                        5 September 2024 10: 09
                        Quote from solar
                        Can you provide a link - where did you get this information? There is no information anywhere about cash payments in such a volume.

                        https://66.ru/news/society/258143/?ysclid=m0oy06dmgz813924345
                        At the Yalta and Potsdam Allied Conferences in 1945, the leaders of the anti-Hitler coalition agreed that the amount of reparations for Germany would be $20 billion. Half of this amount went to the USSR. Part of the Soviet share was due to Poland under an agreement with the pro-Soviet Polish government.

                        https://translated.turbopages.org/proxy_u/en-ru.ru.94d52462-66d95650-3dd5b9b2-74722d776562/https/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_reparations
                      8. 0
                        5 September 2024 11: 24
                        The leaders of the anti-Hitler coalition agreed that the amount of reparations for Germany would be 20 billion dollars.

                        These are not only monetary payments, but all forms of reparations. The USSR received 16 billion.
                        You have it written in the link
                        According to the Yalta Conference on the armistice, reparations to the allied countries were not paid in money (Although this rule was not followed in subsequent agreements.) Instead, most of the funds transferred consisted of German industrial assets as well as forced labor for the benefit of the Allies.[1]

                        And the table is the distribution of the share of funds among Western allies, and not a percentage of the total amount.
                      9. 0
                        5 September 2024 11: 41
                        Quote from solar
                        These are not only monetary payments, but all forms of reparations.

                        Okay, I won't argue. In any case, they got almost the same as England. What free Lend-Lease are we talking about?
                      10. 0
                        5 September 2024 09: 17
                        Where did the gold reserves of France, Italy and other European countries go?)))

                        Tell us in detail - when, how much, who and where did they take it? I have not read anything like that anywhere. The Spanish gold is well known.
                        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Московское_золото
                        Well, you're starting to spread some sound thoughts. Obviously there was a deal, even if not right away and not entirely obvious)))

                        There is little gesheft to be seen in this matter. It would have been much more advantageous for the States to act as Truman proposed. That would have been an obvious gesheft. But it was not he who decided, but Roosevelt. And he was a man "with a twist" in this matter.
                        This was the intention behind Lend-Lease.

                        Tell us more about this "calculation". How can the Russian ruble be made a world currency in this way, by releasing goods and distributing them for free, at the expense of the Russian budget?
                        And why didn’t the Soviet ruble become a world currency in this way? They did the same thing in principle?
                      11. 0
                        5 September 2024 09: 42
                        Quote from solar
                        Tell us in detail - when, how much, who and where did you take it? I have not read anything like that anywhere.

                        I am talking about the "storage" of gold from European countries in the USA. A huge amount of it was transferred during WWII.
                        https://www.zolotoy-zapas.ru/news/market-analytics/kakie-tsentrobanki-khranyat-svoe-zoloto-v-drugikh-stranakh-i-pochemu/?ysclid=m0owvqymlr736924387
                        And also read how de Gaulle returned this gold back, and how much he paid for it. No one else managed to get their gold reserves back)))
                        Quote from solar
                        There is little sense of profit in this matter. It would have been much more advantageous for the United States to act as Truman proposed.

                        Quite the opposite. If the US had stayed out of that war, the USSR would have won anyway, it would have taken longer, with greater losses, but it would have won. And in that case, all of Europe would have become Communist. And that was the only reason the second front took place.
                        Quote from solar
                        Tell us more about this "calculation". How can the Russian ruble be made a world currency in this way, by releasing goods and distributing them for free, at the expense of the Russian budget?

                        There is no way without war, without reparations and gaining the status of hegemon.
                        Quote from solar
                        And why didn’t the Soviet ruble become a world currency in this way? They did the same thing in principle?

                        The same thing was never done, and in principle could not, because the USA had already taken this place. The USSR gave out free loans only to African paupers, which was of course a mistake. There were different relations with Eastern Europe.
                      12. 0
                        5 September 2024 10: 20
                        And also read how de Gaulle returned this gold back, and how much he paid for it. No one else managed to get their gold reserves back)))

                        French gold was taken from under the noses of the Germans. After the war, it was returned to France after the appropriate procedure - the Bank of France, the pre-war holder of the gold reserve, was a private company. The other part of the European gold was seized by the Germans, the small remains found after the war were distributed by the tripartite commission of the allies among the countries that suffered from the Nazis.
                  2. +1
                    4 September 2024 07: 43
                    Lend-lease is far from free, don't pull the wool over our eyes
                    1. -8
                      4 September 2024 10: 03
                      Lend-lease is completely free aid during the war.
                      1. +2
                        4 September 2024 13: 07
                        Inf., nothing is free. The Russian Federation fully repaid the debt for Lend-Lease to the USA in August 2006.
                        Debt of the Russian Federation to France. In the period from 1997 to 2000, payments totaling 400 million US dollars were made from the budget of the Russian Federation in favor of the Government of the French Republic for the debts of the Government of the Russian Empire.
                      2. 0
                        4 September 2024 18: 55
                        Yes, Russia paid off the Soviet debt, but not for Lend-Lease, but for what they decided to keep after the war. After the dollar depreciated 15 times. And Lend-Lease, as aid during the war, was completely free.
                      3. +2
                        4 September 2024 14: 26
                        Quote from solar
                        Lend-lease is completely free aid during the war.

                        Do you know how much the US got from Germany in reparations? And they practically didn't fight with Germany. Just don't start about the 2nd front)))
                      4. -1
                        4 September 2024 19: 03
                        Do you know how much the US received in reparations from Germany?

                        Do you know yourself?
                        The industrial equipment, other equipment and merchant ships seized under the Paris Agreement of January 14, 1946 from the western zone of Germany in favor of the United States, Great Britain and other states is estimated at a total of 4,782 billion Reichsmarks (at the 1938 exchange rate of 2,5 RM per dollar)

                        Compare this with what the USSR received in reparations.
                        According to data from the Main Trophy Directorate, published in the 1990s by Russian researchers Mikhail Semiryaga and Boris Knyshevsky, about 400 thousand railway cars were exported from Germany to the USSR, including 72 thousand cars of building materials, 2885 factories, 96 power plants, 340 thousand machine tools, 200 thousand electric motors, 1 million 335 thousand heads of cattle, 2,3 million tons of grain, a million tons of potatoes and vegetables, half a million tons of fats and sugar, 20 million liters of alcohol, 16 tons of tobacco. Telescopes from the Humboldt University Astronomical Observatory, Berlin subway cars and cruise liners were taken to the USSR... 60 grand pianos, 460 radios, 190 carpets, 940 pieces of furniture, 265 wall and table clocks were officially confiscated from residents of the Soviet occupation zone of Germany, which were mainly distributed for a small fee among Soviet nomenklatura ranks and senior officers. The documents of the trophy department also list 1,2 million men's and women's coats, 1 million hats and 186 train cars of wine. ... The cost of the seizures from the Soviet occupation zone and the GDR, according to estimates by the Federal Ministry for Inner German Relations, amounted to a total of $15,8 billion[4], equivalent to approximately 14 tons of gold.
                      5. 0
                        5 September 2024 09: 11
                        Quote from solar
                        Do you know yourself?

                        No, I didn’t know, that’s why I asked.
                        Quote from solar
                        Compare this with what the USSR received in reparations.

                        What does this have to do with comparisons? The plan was that defeated Germany would pay for all of this Lend-Lease. But the recipients of Lend-Lease would ensure victory with the lives of their citizens and the destruction of their cities and economies. A very profitable investment, I must say.
                        So, stop talking about FREE. Nothing is free in this world, especially between countries.
                      6. 0
                        5 September 2024 09: 21
                        The calculation was that the defeated Germany would pay for the entire Lend-Lease.

                        She didn't pay anything. The overwhelming majority of reparations from Germany went to the USSR.
                        But the recipients of Lend-Lease will ensure victory with the lives of their citizens and the destruction of their cities and economies.

                        Did they have a choice, to fight or not? They would have fought with or without lend-lease :((
                      7. 0
                        5 September 2024 09: 45
                        Quote from solar
                        She didn't pay anything. The overwhelming majority of reparations from Germany went to the USSR.

                        Paid. Maybe not in full with clean money, but in the amount of all US acquisitions, she paid. And by the way, she still pays)))
                        Quote from solar
                        Did they have a choice, to fight or not? They would have fought with or without lend-lease :((

                        The US had a choice. Open a second front with its own equipment, its own troops in 1939, or simply supply hardware, supposedly for free, and you can do it yourselves. And then we'll get involved in the analysis of the deal))) That's how it was.
                      8. 0
                        5 September 2024 11: 50
                        The USSR also did not declare war on Germany in 1939. And even concluded a Treaty of Friendship with it. What does this mean?
                      9. 0
                        5 September 2024 12: 40
                        Quote from solar
                        The USSR also did not declare war on Germany in 1939. And even concluded a Treaty of Friendship with it. What does this mean?

                        What does this have to do with anything? recourse
                        The USSR did not support either side, did not want to fight, and did not count on any reparations or other deals. And the agreement was not about "friendship", but a non-aggression pact. These are two completely different things. For what purpose are you distorting the facts?
                        PS: and for some reason all the writers about the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, for some reason forget to mention the Munich Agreement, signed a year earlier. Bad memory, as usual)))
                      10. 0
                        5 September 2024 10: 36
                        "According to the data of the Main Trophy Directorate, published in the 1990s by Russian researchers Mikhail Semiryaga and Boris Knyshevsky" - I would divide this information by two and also carefully check it. In the 90s, perhaps similar experts claimed that there were millions of victims of Stalin's repressions, although in fact there were less than 900 thousand. Although this number is terrible, the fact of the falsity of the statement in the 90s is present and most likely also according to the manual
                  3. 0
                    4 September 2024 08: 08
                    Quote from solar
                    Free Lend-Lease during the war amounted to 11 billion dollars.

                    The Soviet Union paid $722 million in 1971.
                    By the way, why didn't the USSR collect contributions from Germany, Finland and other losers? Although the removal of factories from Germany probably covered this debt.
                    1. 0
                      4 September 2024 08: 46
                      The Soviet Union paid $722 million in 1971.

                      After the dollar inflation by 15 times. And he didn't pay, he only agreed to pay. But he still didn't pay.
                      Only the equipment that we ourselves wanted to keep after the war was subject to payment (Lend-Lease is aid during the war, not lifelong maintenance). They could simply return it and not pay anything.
                      only equipment that had survived the war was subject to payment; Soviet-American negotiations began immediately after the war to agree on the final amount. In the US, it was initially calculated that the amount to be paid for surviving civilian equipment and machinery, taking into account their depreciation, was $2,6 billion; for the negotiations, this amount was halved, to $1,3 billion

                      An agreement with the USSR on the procedure for repaying Lend-Lease debts was concluded only in 1972[56]. Under this agreement, the USSR was obligated to pay $2001 million, including interest, by 722. By July 1973, three payments had been made for a total of $48 million, after which payments were stopped... In June 1990, during negotiations between the presidents of the USA and the USSR, the parties returned to discussing the debt[~ 6]. A new deadline for the final repayment of the debt was set - 2030, and the amount - $674 million[~ 7].

                      Why didn't the USSR collect contributions from Germany, Finland and other losers?

                      Because of the Allies' position, later enshrined in the Atlantic Charter, which the USSR joined, England and France initially declared that they were not fighting Germany, but "Hitlerism."
                      On August 14, 1941, on board the British battleship Prince of Wales in Argentia Bay (Newfoundland), US President Roosevelt and British Prime Minister Churchill adopted a declaration setting out the goals of the war against the fascist states. On September 24, 1941, the Soviet Union joined the Atlantic Charter.

                      President Roosevelt of the United States of America and Prime Minister Churchill, representing His Majesty's Government in the United Kingdom, after joint deliberation, have deemed it advisable to make public certain general principles of the national policy of their countries - principles on which they base their hopes for a better future for the world.
                      1) The US and Great Britain do not seek territorial or other acquisitions...

                      Therefore, the USSR did not receive a contribution, but the USSR received reparations in accordance with the decision of the Potsdam Conference.
                  4. +2
                    4 September 2024 14: 17
                    Quote from solar
                    Free Lend-Lease during the war amounted to 11 billion dollars. In terms of gold at the prices of that time, this is 11 thousand tons of gold - half of the world's gold reserves at the beginning of the war.

                    Is this only the share for the USSR, or the total figures for all the allies of the anti-Hitler coalition, which included 26 states?
                    Well, how is it free? The USSR paid with the lives of its citizens.
                    1. -1
                      4 September 2024 19: 05
                      11 billion is the share of the USSR alone.
                      Well, how is it free? The USSR paid with the lives of its citizens.

                      What, without lend-lease we wouldn't have fought the Germans? What's the connection? That we would have fought like this, that we would have fought like that
                      1. 0
                        5 September 2024 09: 16
                        Quote from solar
                        What, without lend-lease we wouldn't have fought the Germans? What's the connection?

                        There is no connection at all. I don't know why you are looking for it. I am saying that it was not free. Without Lend-Lease and the Normandy landings, the Americans would not have received reparations from Germany, their technology, scientists, and would not have pushed their dollar into the world currency. For some reason, instead of Lend-Lease, the US did not send its troops on this very equipment that was supplied, to fully participate in WW2, from 39. And in the end, they received more profit than the same British.
                        Free, yeah.
                      2. 0
                        5 September 2024 09: 24
                        There is no connection at all. I don't know why you are looking for it.

                        It is you who are looking for her. Allegedly they fought for lend-lease. But in reality they would have fought in any case.
                        Without Lend-Lease and the Normandy landings, the Americans would not have received reparations from Germany.

                        The Americans got the bare minimum from Germany. But they had plenty of their own technologies.
                        The USSR received the bulk of reparations from Germany.
                      3. 0
                        5 September 2024 09: 50
                        Quote from solar
                        It is you who are looking for her. Allegedly they fought for lend-lease. But in reality they would have fought in any case.

                        The USSR would have fought in any case, and would have won in any case. But the Americans themselves didn't really want to fight, they preferred to get off with iron. But they participated in the carving up of Germany equally with everyone else.
                        Quote from solar
                        The Americans got the bare minimum from Germany.

                        The Americans got more from Germany than the British.
                        Quote from solar
                        And they had plenty of their own technologies.

                        Oh yeah. Somehow, without Von Braun, they just couldn't get into space. And they won the Moon race only thanks to him, his technologies, and the fact that our SP Korolev died.
                2. man
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                  4 September 2024 00: 55
                  Quote: 30 vis
                  Quote: mann
                  Quote from Egeni
                  ...well yes, it will pay off... and the valve will be welded to the pipe, it wasn't for nothing that the project was approved.)

                  Yeah, and Mongolia promised to pay for the gas with missiles and build a cruiser

                  Mongolia was the first country in the world to officially declare its assistance to the USSR in the fight against the fascist invaders.

                  And it was not just a statement, it was real help. And gratuitous. Considering the economic state of the country and industrial underdevelopment, the help was colossal. Not everyone understands what Mongolia was like in the middle of the 700th century. It is a country with a population of about 000 people. About the same as Ulyanovsk today. Almost the only thing the USSR had to pay for was horses. Almost half a million hardy and unpretentious (437 according to documents, to be exact) horses were sold by Mongolia at government prices. Mongolia was the main supplier of wool, sheepskin, leather, and cashmere to the USSR. Officers' short fur coats and soldiers' greatcoats were made from it. In Soviet films, you can often see officers in white sheepskin coats - this is precisely the symbolic mark of Mongolia's assistance to the Red Army. During the Great Patriotic War, the Mongolian People's Republic dressed the Red Army in sheepskin coats.

                  The only country that provided $158 million in aid to the USSR during WWII was Mongolia
                  20,1K reads
                  March 17 2022
                  History and life teach us that friends are known in trouble. War is the greatest disaster that can happen in the life of an individual and in the life of a state and people as a whole. And this is exactly the time when friends are needed.

                  Namely friends, and not allies or partners, who seem to help, but help for money, and come to help when it is already clear who will win. In general, let's not point fingers.

                  My article today will be dedicated to Mongolia, which for some reason is so little spoken about in textbooks and history classes. But Mongolia is the first country in the world to officially declare its assistance to the USSR in the fight against the fascist invaders.

                  And this was not just a statement, this was real help. And gratuitous. Considering the economic state of the country and its industrial underdevelopment, the help was colossal. Mongolian women and men worked overtime and on weekends in factories and plants. They themselves were underfed, but they sent hundreds of tons of meat, wool and other products to the front in the USSR. Including money, gold and natural resources.

                  Unknown artist "The Beginning of Brotherly Friendship".
                  Not everyone understands what Mongolia was like in the mid-700th century. It is a country with a population of about 000 people. About the same as Ulyanovsk today. Now try to imagine the scale of the invaluable assistance that Mongolia provided to the USSR during the Great Patriotic War.

                  According to the recollections of some grandfathers who ended the war on the Eastern Front, defeating Japanese troops, if it were not for Mongolia, the Red Army would have died of hunger.

                  Tanks and planes
                  Mongolia did not have a developed industry and could not supply tanks, artillery guns and aircraft to the USSR, but with the money collected by Mongolian workers (4,5 million tugriks, $100 and 000 kg of gold) a tank column "Revolutionary Mongolia" was created, consisting of 300 T-32 and 34 T-21 tanks, and an air squadron "Mongolian Arat" of 70 La-12 combat aircraft. In addition, the Mongolian side took on the obligation to maintain them, spending 5 million tugriks ($6 thousand) on this during the war.

                  For the Americans, these were insignificant funds, and nevertheless, they did not supply anything free or gratuitous to the USSR, but for Mongolia, this was a huge amount of money.

                  Horses
                  Almost the only thing the USSR had to pay for was horses. Almost half a million hardy and unpretentious (437 according to documents, to be exact) horses were sold by Mongolia at government prices. Horses were very valuable due to the shortage of trucks and equipment and were used as draft animals (for the redeployment of weapons and ammunition) and in cavalry troops.

                  The USSR's losses in horses during the Great Patriotic War amounted to about 8 million heads. Mongolian horses were at the front, in the cadre and partisan units, or replenished ruined farms in Ukraine, Belarus, and Russia.

                  Soviet cavalry on Mongolian horses.
                  Another 20 horses were given to the Soviet Union free of charge by the Mongolian population, which, among other things, sent individual gifts to the front-line soldiers (more about them below).

                  Food
                  Mongolia was the main supplier of wool, sheepskin, leather, and cashmere to the USSR. Officers' sheepskin coats and soldiers' greatcoats were made from it. In Soviet films, you can often see officers in white sheepskin coats - this is precisely the symbolic mark of Mongolia's assistance to the Red Army.

                  The goods sent to the USSR by the first echelons were produced as a result of overtime work at night and on weekends.
                  According to experts, Mongolia supplied more wool and meat to the USSR free of charge than the USA did under Lend-Lease. The following was supplied:

                  622 tons of meat
                  54 wild goats slaughtered
                  168,5 tons of animal fat
                  20 tons of pork
                  174 tons of sausages
                  67,5 thousand fur coats
                  74,5 fur vests
                  almost 90 thousand pairs of felt boots
                  11200 army greatcoats
                  129 tons of laundry soap
                  and a host of other goods, including belts, mittens, scarves, saddles, leather coats, jams, canned goods, felt for yurts, which was especially prized by the partisans, for a total of 42,5 million rubles (more than $8 million). And I will remind you of all this for free! Every fifth soldier from 1942 to 1945 wore a Mongolian greatcoat. but goodness must be remembered. And repay in kind.

                  Yes, I know, I read it, was pleasantly surprised and feel deep gratitude to this small but kind people. I just wanted to joke, but when I was drunk the joke didn't work.
                3. +1
                  4 September 2024 06: 49
                  "kindness must be remembered. And repaid in kind." Actually, the USSR twice saved Mongolia from being conquered by Japan in 1938 and 1939. And the Mongols remembered this. If something bad happened to the USSR and Mongolia, it would be kaput.
                4. 0
                  4 September 2024 11: 26
                  Quote: 30 vis
                  For the same Americans, these were insignificant funds and, nevertheless, nothing free.

                  Lend-Lease - Aid was provided free of charge on the grounds that such aid was necessary for the defense of the United States.
                  Quote: 30 vis
                  This was the first country in the world to officially declare its assistance to the USSR in the fight against the fascist invaders.

                  And Tuva, an independent republic by the way, doesn’t count?
                  Because it was she who announced it first at 13.00:XNUMX Moscow time, then Mongolia, then England
                  Quote: 30 vis
                  According to experts, Mongolia supplied more wool and meat to the USSR free of charge than the USA did under Lend-Lease.

                  So what? And the US has more aluminum, because lend-lease was not given on the principle of "whatever it was needed for", it was actually ordered at conciliation commissions, so the Mongols have more meat. And by the way, according to lend-lease. Meat - canned goods 519 218, Shpig and
                  Lard 343 278

                  The Mongols accomplished a feat, they themselves had nothing to eat, and they were the last to share, we must say thank you to them for this, but when saying thank you, we must not belittle this feat with outright lies
                5. 0
                  4 September 2024 11: 41
                  Wonderful comment, Yuri! hi I recently wrote the same thing, about the help of the Mongols for the USSR during the Great Patriotic War! But I only got 3 lines. Although, about 7 years ago, there was an article here about the help of Mongolia and other small countries. Namely, Tuva and Yemen. But I could not find the article.
                  I would like to add that, unfortunately, during the perestroika years, the USSR stopped helping small countries that were trying to build Socialism -- Vietnam, North Korea, Cuba, and some other Latin American and African countries. Although it had supported them before! Hard times came for Mongolia. And who started helping it? Who extended their paws of help? The USA!!! They started going back and forth with different missions! So, they needed it for something? It seemed important! Then I stopped following all this...
                  So Mongolia, like other countries with which relations were broken after the collapse of the USSR, could well have been offended by Russia. Personally, I see its response as a joke about the States.
                  And it's good that the good memory of the USSR has been preserved for so long by old friends!!! And now, this friendship has turned to bourgeois Russia! Not to mention relations with "partners"!
                6. -1
                  4 September 2024 14: 40
                  Every fifth belay The soldier wore a Mongolian greatcoat from 1942 to 1945.
                  11200 army greatcoats
                  Most likely in the list " Thousands of tons/pieces" - otherwise the Red Army would have been 55 strong. lol so that every fifth person gets a coat
                  Yes and "74 and a half "vest" also looks wonderful
                7. +1
                  4 September 2024 22: 38
                  Ukraine was part of the same state as Russia from 1654 to 1991. What wars and trials we have gone through together. Mongolia is not even close. So what? Now we are killing each other.
                  1. 0
                    5 September 2024 08: 06
                    Quote: Polar Bear
                    Ukraine was part of the same state as Russia from 1654 to 1991. What wars and trials we have gone through together. Mongolia is not even close. So what? Now we are killing each other.

                    Who pays for this and who needs it? You know the answers to these questions. Everything is fine who needs it, who bribed the Ukrainian Zionist elite. Let's put it this way... simply. Collective Rothschilds - Soroses. The goal? The collapse of great Russia, with the goal of plundering and further using its territories in their own interests. They don't need the Russian - Ukrainian - Belarusian population.
      2. 0
        3 September 2024 17: 59
        Quote: Murmur 55
        They didn't twist their arms, that's why they answer like that.

        The West would have had nothing to say if the Mongols had said that Russia had handcuffed us to itself. lol Ah, Putin was invited to steal the keys from them.
    2. +10
      3 September 2024 17: 18
      Yes, that's right. The answer was crippling. So their hands are tied on both sides, that's why they explained themselves so slippery. In general, this stupid ICC office is a bunch of charlatans: they don't touch criminals, but they issue warrants for innocent people. It's time to disperse them, just like the lying Grossii. They have shells falling right under their noses, you can even see the markings and what country they belong to, they see the trajectory of the strike (where they were fired from), but they close their eyes and still say there is NO evidence. The whole world has turned into charlatans, where there are no rules.
      1. +3
        3 September 2024 19: 22
        @Olesya Lesya: "The whole world has turned into charlatans where there are no rules."

        The greatest guilt in this situation, belongs to the worthless, despicable Soviet and Russian traitors and West-loving liberasts who destroyed their own country, destroyed the system of international checks and balances, and elevated the US ruling elites and their worldwide poodles to the status of globally-dominant "exceptionals" who can do whatever they want, with impunity and no need to regard any international rules or restrictions.
    3. +32
      3 September 2024 17: 21
      Aren't you alarmed by the wording "anonymous comment"? This is an impersonal comment, no one signed it, but for some reason they present it as a "comment from Mongolian authorities". With the same success, the newspaper itself could have written anything, asking the same anonymous sources - "grandmothers on a bench from the third entrance"
      1. +3
        3 September 2024 17: 29
        asking the same anonymous sources - "grandmothers on the bench from the third entrance"

        There was even a saying in the army: "One woman said"
    4. 0
      3 September 2024 17: 23
      In my opinion, the answer was pretty good, but as for the aftertaste, that’s subjective.
      1. +2
        3 September 2024 17: 32
        I think what was meant was that there should have been no specific reason given, but rather a more vague expression. For example, "This action does not correspond to the interests of Mongolia." Concise, and interpret it as you wish.
        1. +2
          3 September 2024 17: 43
          This action is not in the interests of Mongolia.

          That would have been too bold. And so they responded - we are small people, dervishes practically, please don't oppress us
          1. -4
            3 September 2024 18: 07
            That's also true. Suckers, basically.)
            1. -3
              3 September 2024 20: 27
              These "suckers" did so many "glorious" things in their time that no one thought it was enough. They captured half the world and collected tribute... There is no point in exalting yourself excessively, insulting the nation... By the way, is your nickname not of Mongolian origin, leaked from the depths of centuries?
            2. 0
              4 September 2024 10: 46
              Quote: Magnetar
              That's also true. Suckers, basically.

              Mongolia also trades with the West. Therefore, it strives not to interfere with trade relations with its policy. The position of this country is quite fragile. China is capable of absorbing Mongolia. Russia, in the conditions of confrontation with the West, will not go to war with China to protect the independence of Mongolia and will not allow the appearance of Western troops in Mongolia. The very raising of the question of extraditing Putin to the ICC for reprisal simply provokes China to annex Mongolia. Perhaps, China's intelligence even paid good money to the ICC bureaucrats who wrote the request to Ulaanbaatar for Putin's extradition and procured the services of Mongolian Kalabarants who published articles about Putin's extradition to the ICC.
    5. +12
      3 September 2024 17: 29
      I don't like the answer. I could have just told him to go to hell, but this leaves a bad taste in his mouth.
      It is possible that this formulation was invented by Politico itself. Since any employee of this agency can be an "anonymous" source. request
      And honesty is not held in high esteem among writers these days.
      1. +3
        3 September 2024 18: 07
        Quote: Leshak
        Because an "anonymous" source could be any employee in this agency.

        I also wrote about this in the comment below. The wording "anonymous interlocutor" could be anyone, even though Politico refers to "the Mongolian authorities." Why would the real authorities prevaricate like that when they can simply say - this is our territory, and the right to decide remains with us.
        1. +5
          3 September 2024 18: 37
          I agree. Trusting the Western press without knowing the official statements of the Mongolian government is too naive. Western scribblers are ecstatic, even if they make up a spit in the direction of Russia. request
    6. -2
      3 September 2024 17: 45
      A normal answer. As is the whole circus around Ukraine. The Bandar-logs are being trolled and led by the nose. And they, due to their incredible stupidity and conceit, have not noticed this yet.
    7. +2
      3 September 2024 17: 52
      In diplomacy, you don’t get sent to hell, but I’ll give you some good news: that’s exactly the meaning of this answer.
      1. 0
        4 September 2024 04: 26
        Quote: Ezekiel 25-17
        In diplomacy, you don't send someone to hell

        Your copper... I never knew that a representative of the diplomatic corps had sneaked into the ranks of VO users...
        You must be familiar with the words of the Russian Foreign Minister and the joke where "at'" and "yat'" are written with a soft sign at the end?
        And the fact that the authorities of the people of a country in which the population, despite...in forty-five years, has more than doubled and reached 3 people [504 - 741 thousand people (census)] have not turned away from Russia means a lot...
        Too often in the USSR they took the position of “big brother”, and among friends there are no older and younger ones, there are wiser and kinder ones.
    8. +2
      3 September 2024 18: 07
      Putin arrived in Mongolia at the invitation of its authorities, this invitation itself sent Europe and their ICC on an erotic journey, which is why the West could not raise a fuss about this topic, so as not to look completely insignificant. Well, can anyone imagine that any country that invited the President of Russia on a visit would present him with an arrest warrant without consequences of a nuclear strike. These idiots in the West are almost all with a cold brain, wherever they go, they are sure to get into shit.
    9. -2
      3 September 2024 18: 50
      Americans, Brits and teapots have 98 percent of investments in Mongolia, the remaining 2a are ours! So the Mongols are forced to wriggle and justify themselves.
    10. -1
      3 September 2024 19: 23
      Explained the position in an anonymous comment..... wink
      Why the hell mention such explanations?
      The main thing is written in the Bible: by their deeds you will know them.
      Was Putin arrested? No.
      Have the contracts been concluded? Yes.
      What other empty talk do you need?
      As for Western investment, without the goodwill of China and Russia, it is very risky. Mongolia has borders, you see.
    11. 0
      3 September 2024 19: 26
      Anonymous comment in Politko. Don't you like what Politko came up with?)
    12. 0
      3 September 2024 19: 48
      Well, Politico said it, give it a discount.
    13. -1
      3 September 2024 19: 55
      Quote: Black
      I don't like the answer. I could have just told him to go to hell, but this leaves a bad taste in his mouth.

      Well, yes, even if the matches come from Russia... As if I didn’t live there.
    14. -1
      3 September 2024 20: 22
      Well, yeah, like, we would be glad to, but it just doesn’t work out that way.
    15. 0
      4 September 2024 10: 48
      Quote: Black
      I don't like the answer. I could have just told him to go to hell, but this leaves a bad taste in his mouth.

      This is Asia! They don't just tell you to go to hell there. They tell you to go to hell in such a way that you go to hell in complete confidence that these are your best friends...
    16. 0
      4 September 2024 20: 31
      Sorry, our hands are a little tied.
      ---As they say, proof in the studio.
      As anonymous sources of journalists explained
      it's not even funny...
    17. 0
      4 September 2024 22: 19
      I don't like it either, but politics is a strange thing. And such a response leaves room for maneuver and essentially allows avoiding sanctions. Against the backdrop of energy, Hungary, for example, is wagging its tail. I think that the response was agreed upon with our diplomats.
  2. +4
    3 September 2024 17: 12
    Sorry, our hands are a little tied.

    A clever answer, however, but one that understands the reality. Who is in charge at the ICC? Where are Netanyahu, Zelensky and his team, as well as the Anglo-Saxon arsonists of peace?
    1. 0
      3 September 2024 17: 16
      Irokez hi, apparently there is no sour benefit for the country, since Mongolia went for it.
      1. +8
        3 September 2024 17: 31
        Geography is the reason, not the benefit. The country is not suicidal.
  3. -1
    3 September 2024 17: 13
    Polite form, go to hell with your MUS.
    1. +7
      3 September 2024 17: 27
      The main thing is that the Ukrops are still being twisted. They are threatening to declare some kind of boycott and are calling on the collective West.
      1. 0
        3 September 2024 17: 30
        Olesya Lesya hi, they once tried to shake compensation from Mongolia for the raids, but they were sent away, and now Kyiv will be sent away, but it’s not clear with Washington.
        1. +3
          3 September 2024 17: 32
          I remember, I remember about compensation laughing . They can send, but almost all countries depend on Washington, they are afraid to say or do anything against it. The USA has one magic word: sanctions. China is also afraid, and unfortunately Russia still depends heavily on them, there are many of their flunkies on the payroll in the Kremlin.
          1. +1
            3 September 2024 17: 50
            Quote: Olesya Lesya
            There are many of their flunkies on the payroll in the Kremlin.

            I would like to know more precisely how many exactly. Can you start listing them by name? smile
          2. 0
            4 September 2024 11: 04
            Quote: Olesya Lesya
            China is also afraid, and Russia, unfortunately, still depends heavily on them; there are many of their lackeys on the payroll in the Kremlin.

            The Taliban are not afraid of the United States and their sanctions. In the 3 years since the expulsion of the occupiers from Afghanistan, the Taliban have completely destroyed drug production and drug transit from Afghanistan. In addition, in 3 years, the Taliban have completely cured 3 million drug addicts. By the way, their treatment method turned out to be very well thought out. Drug addicts are placed in a fenced area and for the first few days they are not given anything to eat, offering to eat leaves on trees. A person's instinct to protect themselves from starvation is activated, which interrupts the craving for drugs. At the moment of withdrawal, the Taliban pour cold water on drug addicts, and the resulting feeling of cold also interrupts the desire to inject or demand drugs. Those who survive 6 months of fighting hunger and cold receive an additional injection that reduces the craving for drugs and are released. If you try to take heroin after this injection, death most likely occurs. Under Karzai, there were 40 million drug addicts out of 3 million people in Afghanistan thanks to American drug propaganda.
            1. 0
              4 September 2024 14: 11
              Wherever England and the Americans go or want to go, there are drugs everywhere. In China, in the 18th-19th centuries, England got the population hooked on drugs, so China, a powerful empire, fell into decline and it took them 100 years to get rid of this addiction and be reborn again.
      2. 0
        3 September 2024 17: 47
        . Ukropov is still being twisted. They are threatening to declare some kind of boycott

        The Mongols are not as hot and not as cold as they could have been if they had fulfilled their obligations.
  4. +1
    3 September 2024 17: 13
    Well, they started throwing the West
  5. -1
    3 September 2024 17: 14
    They sent the ICC to Genghis Khan, but it could have been even further.
  6. -3
    3 September 2024 17: 14
    The Mongolians call cooperation "a little bit tied hands" (c)....
    This is somehow just... not normal.

    Translation: We would be happy, but then they would turn off the tap.....
    1. 0
      3 September 2024 17: 19
      Nexcom hi, I think it’s not the valve that’s to blame here, but the benefit that V.V.P. brought with the delegation.
      1. -2
        3 September 2024 17: 21
        Yes, I'm already completely confused, Murmur 55 hi

        Partners either don't make bank transfers, or they cheat with promises...
        And almost everything. What's going on?
        Or did they just realize who was at the helm??? And that's why it was a scam?
        1. -1
          3 September 2024 17: 33
          The economy is at a 50-year world level, that's what's happening.
          1. 0
            3 September 2024 17: 35
            No... It seems like they're just driving us into a corner. By the whole world gang. But at the same time they're trying to rip us off with everything they can at this stage.
      2. 0
        3 September 2024 17: 35
        VVP brought Ventil to every yurt. And Ventil is innocent!
    2. -1
      3 September 2024 17: 37
      We would be glad, but then they would not only turn off the valve, but also hang eggs in the yurts. So, excuse me, but our hands are tied...)))
      1. -1
        3 September 2024 17: 38
        ...and they will take away the camels and yurts....
  7. -4
    3 September 2024 17: 16
    So the Mongols refused to build the Power of Siberia-2. Maybe that's why Putin flew.
    1. -1
      3 September 2024 17: 18
      So the Turks refused to build a gas hub with us - they called Shell. Such partners are all around - one big scam.....
      1. -4
        3 September 2024 17: 24
        and from the fact that you pile on the minuses - what, the Turks will immediately run to us to build a gas hub? What, just... I'm in shock.
        1. -2
          3 September 2024 18: 53
          So they think that - yes laughing "" ""
      2. 0
        3 September 2024 17: 25
        Nexcom, it seems like they submitted an application to BRICS what
        1. +2
          3 September 2024 17: 26
          That's it... Multi-vector...
          1. +2
            3 September 2024 18: 08
            Quote: Nexcom
            That's it... Multi-vector...

            Now it's multipolarity. They suggested it themselves, so there's no point in being offended.
    2. -2
      3 September 2024 17: 27
      There's nothing else for him to do there.
      1. -3
        3 September 2024 17: 50
        How about some shurpa to eat and some tea to drink?
  8. HAM
    +8
    3 September 2024 17: 23
    Discussing anonymous letters is somehow unethical...there is no one specifically to send... laughing
    1. -5
      3 September 2024 17: 24
      What are you talking about, I don't understand you.....
      1. HAM
        +6
        3 September 2024 17: 26
        ".... As anonymous sources of the publication's journalists explained,...."
  9. 0
    3 September 2024 17: 26
    and I wonder how Mongolia would hand over the "arrested" VVP to the ICC, they don't spare a glance at the political map of Eurasia in Europe?!
  10. +4
    3 September 2024 17: 31
    Well, an anonymous comment and Politico (what a propaganda dump)...
    We believe, we believe. Everything was exactly like that.

    And TSu - a decisive reprimand. And how can he not be so squeamish about taking such an obvious and stinking rotten thing in his beak and dragging it here.
  11. +2
    3 September 2024 17: 34
    Hmm, and they also politely justify themselves, as if they really have to and in general. In their place, one could have openly sweared, undemocratically but succinctly sent them, And what will anyone do to them?
  12. -9
    3 September 2024 17: 35
    Is this where the princes of Ancient Rus' went beyond Kolyma?
    1. +2
      3 September 2024 17: 53
      Kalym is a ransom for a bride feel
      1. +1
        4 September 2024 19: 27
        You're right, I did it while drunk.
        Behind the Label!
        Label for reign.
    2. man
      +1
      3 September 2024 20: 29
      Quote: BabermetisChina
      Is this where the princes of Ancient Rus' went beyond Kolyma?

      Well, yes, remember, in the film the prince also says to Mironov: "You will be with us in Kolyma..."
      Mironov choked, it must have been that the ICC had issued a warrant for him too.
  13. -1
    3 September 2024 17: 37
    Of course, the answer would be more satisfactory - we are sending you to f... a little, but they have already sent you, having arranged a reception. Global garbage dumps have gone to it on duty, nothing else can be expected from them.
  14. 0
    3 September 2024 17: 39
    Well, that's it. Because of an anonymous person, they started to stigmatize Mongolia. It is actually sandwiched between Russia and China. It doesn't care who it befriends, as long as it doesn't conflict. Their people are already getting by as best they can.
    And regarding the possibility of Mongolia fulfilling its obligations to the ICC - I hope no one thinks that some Venezuela, by analogy, could arrest, for example, Biden by a decision of some court. It is not at the level to comply with agreements. The Mongols are probably already worried about Putin's visit. They are afraid to accept it, but they cannot refuse it. request
  15. 0
    3 September 2024 17: 39
    Jurisdictional surrogate?
    https://news-front.su/2024/09/03/yurisdikczionnyj-surrogat/
  16. +3
    3 September 2024 17: 40
    Sorry, our hands are a little tied.
    - Mongolian authorities stated.

    As anonymous sources of the publication’s journalists explained, 95% of the oil products and 20% of the electricity consumed by the country come from the territory of its “closest neighbors.”

    The "anonymous interlocutors" also forgot to mention that Mongolia borders only China and Russia, and no one else.
    And where would they go from a submarine, even if they wanted to?
    By the way. I would be interested to know who these "anonymous interlocutors" are who gave explanations? The publication says that they are from the authorities, but is that really the case?
  17. +3
    3 September 2024 17: 42
    The ICC is losing its credibility
    https://news-front.su/2024/09/03/mus-teryaet-svoj-avtoritet/
    1. +2
      3 September 2024 18: 17
      laughing Putin couldn't have been unaware that his visit would put Mongolia in an awkward position. It turns out that he deliberately pissed right into the ICC's soul
      1. 0
        3 September 2024 19: 45
        Quote: igorbrsv
        Putin could not have been unaware that his visit would put Mongolia in an awkward position.

        What does "Mongolia's awkward pose" have to do with it if Putin was officially invited? This means that Ulaanbaatar deliberately took this step, putting its national interests above Western desires and ICC orders.
        Putin received an official invitation to Mongolia for the 85th anniversary of the victory in the Battle of Khalkhin Gol. This year also marks the 75th anniversary of the founding of the Ulaanbaatar Railway and the 65th anniversary of the joint development of virgin lands


        https://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/galleries/2024/09/03/1059742-chto-delal-putin#140737497237203
        1. 0
          3 September 2024 20: 24
          Putin might not have gone...
      2. +1
        3 September 2024 20: 56
        Quote: igorbrsv
        pissed in the soul of the ICC

        The ICC has no soul, they sold it to the devil a long time ago.
  18. +3
    3 September 2024 17: 49
    The fact is there... and who wrote something there, oh well, foreign media lie and lie again...
    Then, they have their own, who are liberal, like everywhere else.
    There are no official statements, no need to speculate.
  19. -3
    3 September 2024 17: 53
    If the Mongols were not going to fulfill the agreements with the ICC, then why did they sign the agreements?
    1. +4
      3 September 2024 17: 59
      They didn’t know that a warrant would be issued for Putin, and even more so they didn’t know that he would visit them. request
    2. -1
      3 September 2024 18: 30
      And this is the right question.
  20. +2
    3 September 2024 17: 57
    Even if something like this were to happen and Mongolia would fulfill its obligations to arrest him, then (as the comrades above write) how would it hand over our president? And who would stop us from coming and taking him?
  21. 0
    3 September 2024 18: 01
    The arrest of the head of state by order of an international organization that this country does not recognize on the territory of the state that has carried out this order must be qualified as a casus belli and be a pretext for declaring war. We must clearly state that if our head of state is arrested, it will be grounds to consider that Russia is in a state of war with this state. An ultimatum must be immediately presented. If you do not release him immediately, then our missiles are flying towards you.
    1. +1
      3 September 2024 18: 56
      Calm down already with your "white incidents". Here a foreign army has grabbed the territory and nothing happened.
  22. +1
    3 September 2024 18: 28
    It's good that they said it now, otherwise we would have poured billions into it.
    That is, this is not their political position, but an economic one.
    1. 0
      3 September 2024 20: 37
      Nobody needs Mongolia for free, so they wouldn’t pour anything into it.
      1. +1
        3 September 2024 22: 59
        Nobody needs Mongolia for free, so that they can pour something into it

        Well, don't say that! The State Department has already responded with a readiness to defend small, proud Mongolia from the universal evil in the form of Russia and China. However, it won't be as easy to actively develop this Mongolia as it was in the case of Ukraine and Taiwan. How they are going to supply patriots and everything else there is the question. All that's left is to stink.
  23. +3
    3 September 2024 18: 29
    The Mongols lived peacefully, no one remembered them. laughing
    1. -1
      3 September 2024 20: 32
      Yeah, they really set themselves up. laughing.......
  24. 0
    3 September 2024 18: 45
    I should have said that there was a discrepancy: the order was from last year, but the visit was today :)
  25. +1
    3 September 2024 19: 06
    What's the point of discussing the expressions in which an anonymous person commented on the government's decision to representatives of an ancient profession from Politico?! If the officials had made a statement... The main thing is that they didn't arrest! And how they will "make excuses" is their business!
  26. 0
    3 September 2024 19: 13
    "...Ulaanbaatar explained its refusal to comply with the requirement of the ICC by strong energy dependence on the Russian Federation."

    So if it wasn't for the "energy dependence", they would have arrested the Russian president - after inviting him to their country, and on the orders of a completely biased, hypocritical Western kangaroo court???

    What a shameful, disgusting attitude! Genghis Khan must be turning over in his grave! It seems that, during all the recent years while the "partner-loving" Russian leadership passively stood back and watched and did nothing to interfere - as in so many other places! -, the "partners" have managed to turn Mongolia too into at least a partial vassal. Disgraceful.
    1. 0
      3 September 2024 20: 49
      Was this announced by official Ulaanbaatar or an "anonymous source"?
  27. 0
    3 September 2024 19: 27
    Well, let's say the Mongols arrested him. Then we need to take him out. Option 2. Through Russia or China. And...? Apparently Zelya skipped Geography...
  28. -2
    3 September 2024 19: 47
    Meanwhile, Rutskoi said:
    1. 0
      3 September 2024 20: 41
      Well, I'm not justifying them, but it's like this: they delivered grain to Bulgaria, the Bulgarians relieved themselves and delivered feces to the Ukrainians, the rye came to ear, and the Banderites got bread. request
      Although in this way you can probably whitewash anyone you want. Our banks and mobile operators also worked there, almost to their own time. The same ill-fated ammonia (pipeline) ... Gas transportation... request
  29. 0
    3 September 2024 19: 49
    Where should the Mongols go? We are to the north, China is to the south.
  30. -1
    3 September 2024 20: 36
    If Putin came to The Hague, they would blow dust off him and would rather arrest the ICC judges.
  31. +1
    3 September 2024 21: 42
    Came for a label for the Prince of Kyiv))))) not my joke
    1. 0
      3 September 2024 21: 47
      Came for a label for the Prince of Kyiv)))))

      More likely - for a shooting license.
    2. 0
      4 September 2024 10: 03
      Quote: Ovsigovets
      Came for a label for the Prince of Kyiv))))) not my joke


      :))) Beautiful! It even turns out a little bit stiff: VV is on the same level with St. A. Nevsky, as a continuer of his policy :)))
  32. 0
    3 September 2024 21: 46
    Sorry, our hands are a little tied.
    - Mongolian authorities stated.

    So we'll just cut you some slack...
  33. +1
    4 September 2024 00: 31
    Quote: Victor Sergeev
    Nobody needs Mongolia for free, so that they can pour something into it

    In Soviet times, part of the Zabaikalsky Military District troops were stationed there. There was a military sense. Of the known minerals, uranium. The USSR poured money into this development. They built not only an enterprise, but also a city. There was a strategic sense. Mongolia today is a huge undeveloped territory, which means potential for logistics development (not only oil and gas pipelines). So, there is sense in pouring money into it.
  34. 0
    4 September 2024 01: 14
    These creatures from the West and the US realize what they are demanding from Mongolia. Such a step will lead to the immediate and complete destruction of the country and that is the very least.
  35. 0
    4 September 2024 02: 55
    Why and to whom should one apologize? The one who is guilty apologizes. But it is not proper for a sovereign country to apologize.
  36. 0
    4 September 2024 03: 22
    The question is certainly interesting - what if a warrant had been issued for Biden!? Tomorrow there would be no ICC and its entire staff would be sitting in prison in America under investigation. This is the result of our "partnership" and constant "concern"!!! The special services are not working.
  37. +1
    4 September 2024 05: 10
    Not many people know that Mongolia was preparing to become the 16th republic of the USSR. The country intensively studied the Russian language, signs, pointers were duplicated in Russian. But unfortunately, it never came to that because of the collapse of the USSR.
  38. 0
    4 September 2024 05: 27
    promising weapons to other countries when u are in war is risky, but the shock could be managed by delivering honorably good ukrainian-made technologies which russia can't use under stress for lack of parts or vulnerability, like the t64 tanks or some antonov and radars/missiles, with the promise of updating them soon after the conflict. double the previewed quantity, which for a barely populated country like Mongolia can't be too high anyway (like maybe 500 tanks after doubling), and you don't provoke neither a military crisis home by quitting essential material, nor a prestige crisis abroad . and stop making such promises for now.
    1. 0
      4 September 2024 08: 16
      or 3-400, i don't know. in 2010, most western European countries had about 300 tanks in their stock.
      1. 0
        4 September 2024 08: 49
        The Dutch army will have its own tank unit for the first time in ten years
        https://en.topwar.ru/249368-v-armii-niderlandov-vpervye-za-desjat-let-pojavitsja-sobstvennoe-tankovoe-podrazdelenie.html
  39. +1
    4 September 2024 08: 16
    Mongolia is not ready to put the people on candles and send the state back to the Stone Age, at the request of a shady organization that carries out orders from a number of countries.
  40. 0
    4 September 2024 08: 56
    In Turkey there is a sultan who tries to sit on three chairs, in Mongolia there is a khan who tries to sit on two chairs at once. But that's normal, it's called "politician Petya". We need someone to learn how to be a real "politician" and not to break down walls with their foreheads.
  41. GMV
    0
    4 September 2024 10: 04
    Quote: Black
    I don't like the answer. I could have just told him to go to hell, but this leaves a bad taste in his mouth.

    A wonderful and correct answer! T.S. on the topic of the day. In essence, Mongolia sent all those pestering with questions to hell. Only wrapped the fig in a beautiful wrapper. Exactly what Western non-democracies do, explaining their actions with some high morality, and not the banal truth - following only their own interests.
  42. GMV
    0
    4 September 2024 10: 13
    Quote: tatra
    If the Mongols were not going to fulfill the agreements with the ICC, then why did they sign the agreements?

    They were going to, but here... force majeure) White City on the hill over there, everyone signs, and then goodbye to everyone! - "it was a bad deal!"
  43. 0
    4 September 2024 12: 26
    Prozhevalsky's horses are as small as ponies, but as practice has shown, they are strong.
  44. -2
    4 September 2024 13: 29
    It's a pity they didn't arrest us. Maybe we'll finally have a normal president, not a promise-maker.
    1. 0
      5 September 2024 09: 38
      You forgot to write your address laughing
  45. 0
    5 September 2024 13: 05
    Friends are a whole nation of friends. This should be proud of and appreciated.