Expedition to the Ancestors. What it costs us to build a house

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Expedition to the Ancestors. What it costs us to build a house
The exterior of the model of a Haida Indian house, made by the author


Here is the house,
Which was built by Jack.
And this is wheat,
Which is kept in a dark closet,
In home,
Which was built by Jack.
S. Marshak "The House That Jack Built"

History with their own hands. So far, in the articles of this series, we have been talking mainly about the culture of the peoples of Eurasia, including the peculiarities of their settlements in ancient times. But here's what's interesting: in the vast expanses of North America, you can also find almost any climatic conditions - from permafrost and snow in the north to the hot deserts of the southwest.



And so, having settled across the continent, the Native Americans began to build their own dwellings from the materials that were at hand and accessible to them, and most importantly, they corresponded to the climate and natural features of the area where they lived. In this regard, the same Eurasia, perhaps, can even envy the richness of their dwelling samples.

Moreover, these different dwellings were built and inhabited by people belonging to the same Americanoid race, with the exception of the Eskimos and Aleuts. Although recent genetic studies have shown that America was inhabited in ancient times by two groups of settlers.

The first came from Siberia and consisted of representatives of haplogroup Q, i.e. these were the ancient Siberian peoples of the Kets and Selkups.

The second, haplogroup C, came from Manchuria and Mongolia, meaning its descendants are directly related to the inhabitants of Mongolia. In any case, they then interbred to a significant degree.

But their homes turned out to be different, and the reason for this was not at all in their historical roots, but in the natural-geographical factor of residence.


This is what Haida villages usually look like: a row of houses along the seashore. The stages of building such a house…

Thus, the ancient subarctic peoples, who roamed the outskirts of the taiga, built simple huts from branches and tree bark.

A wikiup is a cone-shaped shelter made of wooden poles covered with grass and reeds. Such shelters were popular among many tribes in the Great Basin region.

Igloos, well known from Jack London's story "The Tale of Keesh," were built from blocks of tightly packed snow. In the Arctic, they served as temporary shelters during the seal and walrus hunting season. But somewhere, they were also inhabited permanently.

Reed huts... Well, how could we do without them?! These dwellings were built like this: a frame was constructed from poles, then it was covered with mats woven from reeds. A fireplace was built in the middle of the hut. The smoke came out through a hole above it. Similar houses were built by the Indians of California and the Southwest.

The Navajos built something similar. Their dwelling was called a hogan and had the shape of a hexagon or octagon made of poles. However, its walls were lined with stones and coated with clay. The entrance to the hogan always faced east. The Navajos also built dugouts: they installed poles in a cone and covered it with earth. The earth grew grass, and a green pointed hillock was formed!

Again, everyone knows that the dwelling of the North American Indians was called a wigwam. However, this is not the wigwam that people usually imagine. The wigwam was the dwelling of the Algonquin Indians, who lived in the Great Lakes region. They created an arched vault from bent rods, which they then covered, again, with woven mats.

But what many call a wigwam is in fact nothing more than a tipi – the dwelling of the prairie Indians. The ideal dwelling for nomads, as were the tribes that lived there. The structure is a cone of poles covered with bison skins in two layers: one external and one internal. Thanks to this, the tipi was warm even in the cold winter. In addition, it could be easily disassembled and assembled.

Chiki - a floor on piles under a conical reed roof - this is the dwelling of the ancient tribes of the south-east. Moreover, it is known that a village of such houses was even surrounded by a fence.

The Pueblo Indians, the inhabitants of the southwest, built their houses from clay and stones. They were given this name by the Spanish, who reached them in the 16th century. Seeing the Pueblo settlements of closely packed houses, they called them "pueblo", which means "village".

In the forest zone along the shores of the Great Lakes, powerful and highly developed tribes of the northwest, living among fertile forest valleys and on the outskirts of the prairies, built so-called "long houses". They erected them from timber and covered them with bark. Each such house was designed for approximately 20 (!) related families.

It is interesting that the Iroquois “long houses” at one time greatly interested F. Engels, who mentioned them in his work “The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State”.

By the way, the Iroquois' self-designation translates precisely as "people of the long houses."

The longhouse was 6–10 m wide and up to 8 m high; its length depended on the number of fireplaces; the longest of the known dwellings reached 90 m. The house had a quadrangular shape. Its base consisted of parallel logs driven into the ground.


This is how the Haida built their houses in 1888. Drawing from the Smithsonian Institution collection.

However, the most beautiful houses were built by the Indians of the Northwest Coastal Region - the Haida and the Tlingit.

The houses were like long plank barns, constructed of hand-sawn planks then fixed to a frame of logs. The entrance was usually at the base of a totem pole, and was always shorter than a man's height, so that anyone entering had to bow to it.

The front wall of the house was often painted with characteristic Haida patterns. The carved totem pole was also painted in bright colors. Up to six families, related by kinship through the female line, could live in such a house.

The total living space of the family was about 15 square meters. In the center there was a depression where the fire burned and food was cooked. The smoke came out through a hole in the roof, which could be closed at night.

Around the fire pit bunks were arranged for sleeping. The higher the position of the family in the clan, the further from the entrance it was located, because, although it was covered with skins, it still let through a little, but a draft.


The totem pole could have been a real work of art!

Several previous articles have already covered the culture of the Haida Indians. And so, as part of a project to create visual aids for history and geography lessons at school, it was decided to make a model of such a dwelling of the Haida Indians.


Model of a Haida house from a museum in Brooklyn

Building such a house – whether it’s a toy or a model for a school history classroom – won’t be difficult.

The material for its production is the most democratic: cardboard from packaging from the Magnit store, coffee stirrers 180x6x1,8 mm, but in principle any that you can buy or order will do.

The "Haida house" also needs supporting posts and pillars for the frame and to support the roof. For these, you need to go to the Leonardo store, where they sell peeled wooden branches of different thicknesses, or to the pine forest, where they lie for free among the pine needles, or ... to the seashore, where there is sand and dunes. There, in the sand, they are also found, dried by the sun and processed by the sea. But those that are waiting for you in the forest are just as good! For the frame of the house, you will need only four such posts no more than 10 cm high, so you will not need much material.


Painting on the front wall of a Haida house that exists today

First of all, you will need to glue the frame of the house from packing cardboard, and you need to do it with the corners cut with a sharp knife, because you will need to glue wooden posts into these corners.

Having glued the pillars, you can begin to cover the frame of the house with sticks-mixers. You can glue them with PVA and "Moment" glue, pressing them to the walls with clothespins for better adhesion.

After the walls, the roof boards are glued on, in the center of which a smoke hole is cut, to which a wooden cover will need to be glued.

A totem pole can be cut from a block of soft wood, such as linden. But you can also mold it from plasticine, cover it with a layer of superglue and, after freezing it in the freezer compartment of the refrigerator, fill it with heated paraffin, which, by the way, was described in one of the previous materials about the culture of the Haida Indians.

The oiled and well-frozen totem pole, after the paraffin has cooled, is easily removed from the mold, after which epoxy resin mixed with sawdust or gypsum is poured into it. The hardened casting is processed with sandpaper, washed from the remains of the lubricant and painted with acrylic paints.

The house itself is covered with wood stain or rosewood varnish to achieve a dark cedar wood shade. For weight, the roof is covered with rocks molded from plastic and tree branches - thin dry twigs that are glued with superglue.


Model of a Haida house on the podium. Work and photo by the author/size]

As for my model of the Haida house, it is installed on a round polystyrene podium, onto which the signature green grass and bushes are glued, and logs are stacked along the walls... for firewood.

Of course, the most beautiful thing in this house is the painting of the front wall. Naturally, it was impossible for me to do it by hand. Therefore, I ordered a decal for it based on a photo of a real Haida house, fortunately, there are now a lot of companies that make custom decals. So they made me such a decal, after which I transferred it to the place and installed the model of the house on the podium.

The model, thanks to the painting of the front wall and the brightly colored totem pole, turned out to be very decorative and exotic. And now it has replenished the collection of visual aids of Penza Gymnasium No. 6.
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  1. +6
    1 September 2024 06: 15
    The Haida House also needs support posts and pillars for the frame and roof support. For these, head to Leonardo's.
    The people had houses, people lived there, but then the Anglo-Saxons came, they burned the houses, killed the people, and now in the supermarket they sell models of the houses of the indigenous people.
    Russia also came to Central Asia, the Caucasus, the Baltics, but the people were not slaughtered and houses were not burned down, on the contrary, the number of people increased. That is the difference between Anglo-Saxon capitalism and Russian capitalism, and I will keep quiet about socialism, it is death for a capitalist.
    1. +2
      1 September 2024 07: 18
      when the Anglo-Saxons came, they burned the houses and killed the people
      I will also add that they took away the land and drove people into reservations.
      1. +10
        1 September 2024 14: 48
        Quote: Dutchman Michel
        the land was taken away and driven into reservations

        The Haida asked for an island under their full jurisdiction and got it! They live there without a care!!!
        1. 0
          4 September 2024 19: 41
          only one island! Where are the rest?
          1. +1
            4 September 2024 19: 44
            Quote: Radius
            only one island! Where are the rest?

            One island? Greenland is an island too... It's big, they have enough! You should also ask the Cherokee Indians how they are oppressed in the reservation, with everything that belongs to them there, or the Cheyennes... Now it's not the Indians who envy the whites, but the whites who envy the Indians!
    2. +2
      1 September 2024 10: 20
      The population of the North Caucasus has increased not because of the Russians' efforts, but according to tradition. You'd better read history about how villages were torn down and people were driven out.
      1. +2
        1 September 2024 10: 34
        You'd better read the history of how villages were demolished and people were driven out.
        Remind me, who wrote this story?
        1. 0
          1 September 2024 10: 39
          The photo of severed heads is a photomontage of communists
        2. +3
          1 September 2024 14: 50
          Quote: Dutchman Michel
          And who wrote this story?

          Generals of the Russian Empire, as well as M.Yu. Lermontov and his murderer Martynov... In verse... And there is also Leo Tolstoy's story "Hadji Murat".
      2. +2
        4 September 2024 19: 45
        auls were demolished, civilization was brought... You decide for yourself who would have done it more humanely: Russians or Anglo-Saxons? Or Turks? Or Persians? Or slaughtered each other...
        1. 0
          4 September 2024 19: 54
          We had our own civilization. What do the Anglo-Saxons have to do with it?
          1. 0
            4 September 2024 19: 58
            It still exists. I know firsthand...
    3. +6
      1 September 2024 11: 28
      I won't say anything about socialism
      As practice shows, socialism is good until the money for it runs out.
      the difference between anglo-saxon capitalism and russian
      First of all, in the standard of living in Russia and Anglo-Saxony Yes .
      1. +1
        1 September 2024 20: 49
        As practice shows, socialism is good until the money for it runs out.
        If capitalism runs out of money, it will also become bad for the majority of the population. This is also a practice.
        1. +2
          2 September 2024 10: 06
          If the money for capitalism runs out
          Capitalism makes money, so that's unlikely.
          1. 0
            2 September 2024 19: 21
            Capitalism makes money,
            Really? Name me at least one self-sufficient capitalist country.
            1. 0
              2 September 2024 19: 48
              Greetings dear Sergey! hi ! Here's the question, how then do the frequent mentions come about that
              We have been eating up the Soviet legacy for 30 years
              . So a capitalist country lives off socialism? And somehow no one has refuted this for some reason.
              1. -2
                2 September 2024 21: 07
                So, a capitalist country lives at the expense of socialism?
                This is now at the expense of the remains of the USSR, but in general, the original capitalist state lives at the expense of exploiting other countries and peoples who allow them to do this. It does not matter what system there is - capitalist, feudal or primitive communal. The most advanced capitalist countries, of which there are no more than 20, live at the expense of the remaining 180 (if you subtract China, North Korea, Cuba).
            2. +2
              3 September 2024 01: 48
              Oh really?
              Well, yes. Or do you still believe that America is going to be the end of it soon?
              self-sufficient
              Only the tribes in the mountains of New Guinea are self-sufficient.
              1. -2
                3 September 2024 08: 08
                Or do you still believe that America is going to die soon?
                What does this have to do with it? Don't change the subject.
          2. -1
            4 September 2024 19: 47
            Capitalism does not make money. It robs it. And money alone will not feed people...
            1. +1
              4 September 2024 20: 06
              He robs them.
              A fundamentally incorrect statement. Whom did the Finns, Irish, Austrians rob? Yes, and the same Estonians and Latvians, finally.
    4. +6
      1 September 2024 14: 47
      Quote: carpenter
      when the Anglo-Saxons came, they burned down houses, killed people, and now in the supermarket they sell models of the houses of the indigenous people.

      They came, but they didn't burn houses, they didn't kill people. And today the Haida live happily, they have their own artists, filmmakers, their own bank, there's no end to tourists... their own laws, their own flag, newspaper, TV... you can only dream of such things!
      1. -1
        4 September 2024 19: 52
        yeah, a dream... but where did ninety percent of the people go?
        1. 0
          4 September 2024 21: 13
          Quote: Radius
          and where did ninety percent of the people go?

          Didn't fit into civilization! Or let's say it this way: they gave their lives for the modern prosperity of their descendants. When the lives of civilized people and savages are at stake, who should retreat? Of course, the savage! If he doesn't want to, he is forced to do so! Take the Ukrainians... they didn't want to solve the language issue in a civilized manner, and now they are forced to recognize the language and everything else. It was the same with the Indians... By the way, there are 2,6 million Indians in the USA now, and there were 3 million in the USA and Canada at the beginning of colonization. So, it wasn't 8% that disappeared, but much less. They had a hard life in the prairies and mountains. And in the forests too...
  2. +3
    1 September 2024 07: 24
    The longhouse was 6–10 m wide and up to 8 m high; its length depended on the number of fireplaces; the longest of the known dwellings reached 90 m. The house had a quadrangular shape. Its base consisted of parallel logs driven into the ground.

    Why such a height, almost three floors? The heat loss is enormous. Multi-tiered bunks?

    Impressive barracks, and even on a pile foundation.
    The houses had the appearance of a long plank barn, which was constructed from hand-sawn planks and then fixed to a frame of logs.

    Where did they get the saws from? Apparently they appeared no earlier than the Anglo-Saxons. That is, newly built houses...
    1. +3
      1 September 2024 09: 27
      Quote: Olgovich
      Why such a height, almost three floors?
      All old houses tried to have high ceilings: air was needed, not only for breathing, but also for fire, which was used for lighting and heating.
      1. +1
        1 September 2024 09: 38
        Quote: bk0010
        All old houses tried to have high ceilings:

        for example?
        1. +5
          1 September 2024 10: 06
          For example, the houses of the Tlingits, Aleuts, Hurons. All different, but all of a barracks type and with high ceilings. Any multi-family houses, whether in Indonesia or in Oceania
        2. +2
          1 September 2024 14: 38
          Quote: Olgovich
          for example?
          See the height of the ceilings on tours of mansions, palaces or noble houses of the 18th and 19th centuries. Example:
      2. +5
        1 September 2024 12: 29
        It's strange, I've studied the remains of old residential buildings (of all ages, up to tens of thousands of years ago) - most often it's a semi-dugout, if we're talking about saving heat. And a ceiling height of more than 2,5 meters, calculated based on post holes, implies a two-story building.

        But yes, as I remember now, in school years in winter the warmest place was the gym; and the area is large, and the ceiling is high. Well, and only as a warm-up you run around in a circle for about 15 minutes. Probably, such large residential sheds of the Indians worked exactly the same way.
        1. +2
          1 September 2024 14: 51
          Depends on the society. If they live in families, in a small group, then they live in dugouts, small houses.
          If the whole clan, team, division...
          Take the Vikings' houses, for example. They also built dormitories with high ceilings.
    2. +4
      1 September 2024 12: 21
      Why such a height, almost three floors? The heat loss is enormous. Multi-tiered bunks?
      Because archaeologists reconstructed it that way, calling the pit a pillar pit, and, based on this definition, calculating the height of the pillar. The realization that this was a pit for installing a totem, and that the totem had a carved underground part, did not come immediately, and is still controversial. The very fact of the lack of a proven technology for driving piles because it was unnecessary also somehow passed them by. About "long dwellings up to a hundred meters long" - from there, long ago refuted. This is the same as considering the "bone palace" in Kostenki a typical dwelling of the mammoth hunter culture. It is generally recognized that there was not one "long house" there, but several in a row, simply on geometric proportions of distances from each other. In the Upper Paleolithic - and that was it, and only that.
    3. +5
      1 September 2024 12: 23
      Where did they get the saws from? Apparently they appeared no earlier than the Anglo-Saxons. That is, newly built houses...
      No, this is the author's mistake. They already knew how to split logs into boards in the Mesolithic, and the same Bronze Age, as well as partly the Early Iron Age, was entirely on such boards. Including sea vessels. Naturally, only in latitudes where there were no problems with wood, but in North America it is good in most areas, with the exception of the prairies, perhaps.
      1. +2
        1 September 2024 12: 31
        Quote: AllBiBek
        People already knew how to split logs into boards in the Mesolithic

        it's hard to imagine...
        1. +6
          1 September 2024 12: 38
          Please, we split large beech logs out of curiosity using Neolithic technology. A stone point for a hole, an oblong pebble as a chisel, and a large pear-shaped pebble as a hammer are enough. From a certain point, a wooden wedge in the form of a large beech chip comes into play. And so, when you work with such tools all your life, and with a material with known properties, you will easily begin to see in the wood how you will split it into boards in terms of where to drive in the wedges so that the board comes out even in texture, bypassing knots. And here even a couple of lessons from a person who, during the season, amuses himself by reconstructing ancient technologies in the profile of his basic education (it is not Russian, alas, at most we teach folk crafts, the rest are electives, if you are lucky, and there is the right specialist with free time and tools and raw materials for master classes) were enough.
    4. +3
      1 September 2024 14: 52
      Quote: Olgovich
      That is, newly built houses...

      The boards were hewn... with axes! The Dayaks in Borneo even hewed boards with mandou swords! And nothing happened.
  3. +6
    1 September 2024 08: 55
    There will soon be no room left in your school, Vyacheslav Olegovich) )
    I remember there were stands with ships and boats in my school. Mostly military-themed. There were also garages and workshops, + our students exhibited some things from the Palace of Pioneers. A couple of times we had an exhibition in the assembly hall - mama mia! From some radio devices and things unknown to me to buggies, boats, walk-behind tractors, tractors, snowmobiles... And as for control line, stand, radio-controlled models of airplanes, yachts, ships, cars... And where did all this disappear in the 90s...
    1. +5
      1 September 2024 13: 07
      Quote: Tlauicol
      And where did it all disappear to in the 90s?

      They just went their separate ways according to their interests. Look closely at the networks, very often people with the same interests gather, and exhibitions are held in Russian cities. Both stand models and radio-controlled ones - there are different ships, planes, tanks, cars. Railroad workers are a separate topic. One big model of Russia, what is it worth. The same radio amateurs, auto-do-it-yourselfers, and those who make flying, floating, "driving" models and not only, gather in different regions almost every month. True, let's be honest, such events have been held less frequently in the last three years, and with the current opportunities it does not always make sense to participate in person, you can still do it online... My granddaughter uploads her models to the competition like this... Moreover, people from the western regions of Russia tell her what and how to do it correctly.
      1. +4
        1 September 2024 14: 56
        Well, those are adults, or a business selling toys. And in my childhood, it was students, clubs. Some glued airplanes, others, older, made mopeds or iceboats after school.
        Nowadays, you can count on your fingers the number of enthusiasts like your granddaughter.
        1. +6
          1 September 2024 16: 35
          Quote: Tlauicol
          Well, those are adults, or a business selling toys. And in my childhood, it was students, clubs. Some glued airplanes, others, older, made mopeds or iceboats after school.

          Nothing like that, there are a lot of children, and specifically assembly and design. Business sales do not always happen, although not without it.
          Quote: Tlauicol
          Nowadays, you can count on your fingers the number of enthusiasts like your granddaughter.

          You just don't communicate much in this topic, I'll tell you that there are quite a few. Of course, there are more boys. In addition to assembling plastic models or radio-controlled ones, simple technical design, there is such a vector of modeling as prefabricated wooden models. Cars, weapons, there are also ships, planes... My eldest granddaughter "got hooked", or rather, with the right approach, I got her hooked on assembling wooden models of weapons, the third on wooden cars in a scale of 1:35, and believe me that there are no fewer forums for discussing these models than there are owners of right-hand drive German cars in the Far East laughing laughing My second granddaughter has been assembling plastic models of 1:35 cars for almost 3 years now. Before that, she trained on 1:43. I myself have been assembling aircraft models for almost 46 years. However, recently, I have not had time... laughing
          1. +4
            1 September 2024 16: 52
            It's nice to hear that! Good luck to you and your granddaughter!
          2. +4
            1 September 2024 19: 44
            Quote: Fitter65
            that there are no fewer forums for discussing these models than there are owners of right-hand drive German cars in the Far East

            I confirm!
      2. +5
        1 September 2024 14: 59
        Quote: Fitter65
        My granddaughter submits her models for competitions like this...

        Well done girl!
      3. +4
        1 September 2024 16: 55
        One big model of Russia, what is it worth?
        We also have a model of the "Petrovskaya Aquatoria".
        1. +3
          1 September 2024 16: 57
          Quote: 3x3zsave
          We also have a model of the "Petrovskaya Aquatoria".

          I've heard, but somehow I never have time to watch it...
          1. +2
            1 September 2024 16: 59
            Admiralteyskaya metro station, in the same building, top floor.
            1. +4
              1 September 2024 17: 02
              Quote: 3x3zsave
              Admiralteyskaya metro station, in the same building, top floor.

              Well, you still have to get to the metro. laughing The closest one is in my native Novosibirsk, and it’s at least a 4-hour flight away... laughing I watch videos on the Internet.
              1. +4
                1 September 2024 17: 05
                Yes, I somehow forgot that you live in the Far East. Well, never mind, the Linniks have already come twice, you will get there someday.
                1. +5
                  1 September 2024 17: 10
                  Quote: 3x3zsave
                  You live in the Far East. Well, never mind, the Linniks have already come twice, someday you will get there too.

                  Well, yes, I have a friend who lives in St. Petersburg, we served together, he's also a modeler, in the late 80s we made model airplanes from rulers together, he's been inviting me over for years now. But it's always the same, either the spine is long, or the shirt is short. laughing
                  1. +3
                    1 September 2024 17: 38
                    My nephew and his wife traveled around the Far East this summer. Now he's posting his impressions on his blog on Zen. I even suggested that he and Bongo meet, but they were in Komsomolsk for the same day.
                    1. +3
                      1 September 2024 17: 42
                      Quote: 3x3zsave
                      I even suggested that he and Bongo meet, but they were in Komsomolsk for the same day.

                      I've been living here for a long time now and it's still not my destiny to cross paths with Sergey in the city. Here in my favorite model store, by the way, it's practically at arm's length, and even then there's not always time to pop in... Previously, without a car, I managed to do everything by public transport, there was enough time for everything...
                      1. +5
                        1 September 2024 17: 47
                        It's just that I have a hobby (one of them), to organize meetings of people with disabilities. Without false modesty I can say that our Violet began with these meetings.
                      2. +3
                        1 September 2024 17: 49
                        Previously, I didn’t have a car, I could do everything on public transport, I had enough time for everything...
                        Sounds familiar. I get behind the wheel out of urgent need.
                      3. +2
                        1 September 2024 18: 04
                        but it was not meant to be to cross paths with Sergei in the city.
                        This is the easiest way to cross paths with him in the forest! laughing
                      4. +2
                        1 September 2024 18: 13
                        Quote: 3x3zsave
                        This is the easiest way to cross paths with him in the forest!
                        Reply
                        Quote

                        Same with me. laughing
                      5. +2
                        1 September 2024 18: 21
                        Then what is the question?
                        Well, okay, I'm a city dweller "to the core", you'd have to try really hard to lure me into the forest. But you hold all the aces in your hands!
    2. +4
      1 September 2024 14: 58
      Quote: Tlauicol
      There won't be any room left in your school soon.

      It will remain! Yesterday we discussed the plan with the history teacher. There will also be a Mayan pyramid, a Sumerian ziggurat, a cross-section of the Cheops pyramid, an Ionic Temple of Artemis with fluted columns, two cogs - a trading and a fighting one, two mills - a water mill and a wind mill... four knights' castles (in development), much more... There will be lessons using them, homework for children. The result will be a book for parents, children and teachers.
  4. +2
    1 September 2024 12: 53
    The houses looked like long plank barns, constructed from hand-sawn planks then secured to a frame of logs.
    although we are told that before the arrival of white people, the native population of America did not know metal. And here they saw logs into boards... I wonder with what? I just don't know their technology...
    1. +3
      1 September 2024 13: 29
      And here they saw logs into boards... I wonder why? I'm just not aware of their technology...

      Have you ever come across the word "tes"? If not, look up its meaning.
      1. +1
        1 September 2024 13: 34
        Quote from Frettaskyrandi
        Have you ever come across the word "tes"? If not, look up its meaning.

        What does TOS have to do with it? After all, in the article it is written in Russian in white
        was being constructed from hand-sawn boards, and then reinforced on a frame of logs.
        But not as unhewn. If you don't know, then ask how a sawn board differs from a planed one.
        1. +3
          1 September 2024 13: 47
          After all, the article says it in plain English

          There is a lot written in the articles on this site in particular and on the Internet in general. Often, as in this case about hand sawing, what is written does not correspond to reality. The plank houses of the indigenous peoples of the Pacific Northwest, including the Haida mentioned by the author, were built from planks, mainly cedar. The oldest such house found by archaeologists is about 3000 years old.
          1. +2
            1 September 2024 15: 45
            Quote from Frettaskyrandi
            . The plank houses of the indigenous peoples of the Pacific Northwest, including the Haida mentioned by the author, were built of planks,
            HERE!!! And the author convinces us that it is made from sawn timber.
      2. +3
        1 September 2024 15: 03
        The Haida got their saws very early from Russian settlers, whom they themselves gladly cut down to the roots. This was the end of the 18th century. I think that after that, they built so many houses that sawn boards replaced planed ones. There are no fools to hew when you can saw.
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          1 September 2024 16: 09
          Quote: kalibr
          The Haida saws were received very early from Russian settlers, whom they themselves happily cut out root and branch. This is the end of the 18th century..
          Almost at the dawn of time. Well, it should have been written that at the end of the 18th century the Haida began to build houses from sawn boards. And you first talk about haplogroups, then
          Having settled across the continent, Native Americans began to build their own homes from the materials they had at hand
          That is, as soon as they settled on the continent, long before the arrival of all sorts of other foreigners.
          Thus, the ancient subarctic peoples, who roamed the outskirts of the taiga, built simple huts from branches and tree bark.
          That is, we started from the most ancient times and listed who, what and where built as if in that pre-Columbian period, and here it is, such beauty
          However, the most beautiful houses were built by the Indians of the Northwest Coastal Region - the Haida and the Tlingit.
          There is no footnote that they started building these beautiful houses at the end of the 18th century. Where is it between the words? ancient subarctic peoples and the proposal- The houses had the appearance of a long plank barn, which was constructed from hand-sawn boards,What is written
          The Pueblo Indians, the inhabitants of the southwest, built their houses from clay and stones. They were given this name by the Spanish, who reached them in the 16th century. Seeing the Pueblo settlements of closely packed houses, they called them "pueblo", which means "village".
          it means that the natives built even before Columbus, and all the lists of the construction of other Indian "cottages" are associated with the first sentence that - having settled across the continent, the Native Americans began to build houses for themselves. And then suddenly sawn boards, which were brought by Russian settlers. It's like buy a gun, a very rare thing, very. From this gun they shot Gaius Julius Caesar himself!!! - But there were no guns then... - Well, I'm saying that it's a very rare thing...
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            1 September 2024 17: 16
            Well, it should have been written that at the end of the 18th century the Haida began to build houses from sawn boards.

            Maybe they did get saws, but for some reason there is nothing about sawing boards in the literature, they write that cedar was split into boards when building Haida houses. For example here - https://pdxscholar.library.pdx.edu/anth_fac/188/.
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              1 September 2024 17: 29
              Quote from Frettaskyrandi
              Maybe they did get saws, but for some reason there is nothing in the literature about sawing boards; they write that cedar was split into boards when building Haida houses.

              That's what I'm talking about!!! The article says that they built houses from sawn boards!!!
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            1 September 2024 19: 47
            Quote: Fitter65
            That's how it should have been written,

            I had several articles here on the history of the Haida Indians. I don't want to repeat myself...
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          8 September 2024 16: 16
          Quote: kalibr
          It's foolish to chop when you can saw.

          I disagree. Splitting a log with wedges into boards and planing them is physically easier than hand sawing. Sawing is good when the electric band saw is a certain amount of kilowatts, and all the other sawmill equipment.
          And by hand you can only split, trim, and plane.
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    10 September 2024 21: 50
    "Village" in Spanish is Aldea.