Iraqi MP accuses Kiev of supplying substandard BTR and requires proceedings

The representative of the Commission on Security and Defense of the Iraqi Parliament, Shivan Mohammed Taha, accused Ukraine of supplying poor-quality BTR-4 to the Iraqi army and disrupting the delivery dates for the contract from 2009 of the year.

"Investigation into Ukraine’s deliveries to Iraq weapons revealed corruption in part of the third contract concerning the sale of 420 armored personnel carriers, of which only about one hundred vehicles have been delivered at present, despite the fact that several years have passed since the contract was ratified, "Takha told the Arabian website RIA News.

At the same time, the deputy claims, the investigation revealed that all the "very old, corps of rusty vehicles supplied by the BTR" are unsuitable for use. "

Taha said that the Iraqi parliament demanded that the government create a special joint committee to investigate the execution of the contract, as well as sue the perpetrators of the situation.

In the near future, the Minister of Defense of the country, Saadun al-Dulei, will be summoned to parliament for clarification.

RIA Novosti does not yet have a comment on the Ukrainian side.

In early February, 2013, the anti-corruption commission of the Iraqi parliament issued an internal report on the violations allegedly uncovered when checking the implementation of the contract concluded between Ukraine and Iraq on the supply of arms.

According to the commission, in the third part of the Ukrainian-Iraqi arms contract for the supply of 420 armored personnel carriers BTR-4, the cost of which is 456 million dollars, serious violations were found.

"This is a delay in deliveries, a violation of the law in terms of the imposition of fines for delay in deliveries," said the head of the commission, Baha al-Araji.

Ukraine is one of the world leaders in arms sales. The largest in the Ukrainian stories A contract for the sale of military equipment and weapons to Iraq in the amount of 2,4 billion dollars was concluded in 2009 year. The contract provided for the supply of armored personnel carriers, aircraft, high-precision weapons, as well as the provision of services for the repair and modernization of military equipment. Due to delays in deliveries, the contract has already been on the verge of breaking several times.

Comments

[domokl]

Popadalovo large ... Only now with whose submission it is interesting ... I have vague doubts .... I remember there were some agreements between Ukraine and our friends before signing this contract ...
Isn’t it time to answer for the bazaar, as they say on the streets are paid?

[ShturmKGB]

Let the Russians take and do not vomit ...

[Nicholas C.]

Something Ukrainian colleagues are delayed with explanations of the catch.

[Akim]

Quote: Nikolai S.

Something Ukrainian colleagues are delayed with explanations of the catch.

In the article itself

[garik404]

After reading the article, I immediately wanted to say - "pi% de # and provocation" ...

[Egoza]

Quote: garik404

I immediately wanted to say - "pi% de # and provocation" ...

Well yes! We are perfect! And to be honest, several times already Iraq expressed dissatisfaction with the fact that they paid money, but there were no supplies. It is of course, we have elections all the time, we have no time to execute contracts!

[garik404]

On February 7 in Kiev, representatives of the Ministry of Defense of the Republic of Iraq and Ukrspetsexport Group of Companies signed an act of acceptance of a batch of Ukrainian-made BTR-4 in the number of 40 units.

“The tests were carried out successfully. No major problems have been identified. We are pleased with the process of cooperation with the Ukrainian side. Previously transferred Ukrainian-made BTR-4 in heavy field conditions are being exploited in Iraq. This is a new, advanced vehicle for the Iraqi army, ”the official representative of the Iraqi delegation stressed.

In the Ukroboronprom Group of Companies they noted that they are satisfied with the achieved result. “Despite the significantly more stringent requirements for accepting the Iraqi side (each car was checked according to a special program), all the cars were transferred without significant remarks. We will execute the contract in accordance with the agreements reached. Now the main task is to create an effective service department for servicing the equipment transferred to the Iraqi side, ”the Ukroboronprom Group of Companies noted.

Information:
At the end of 2009, Ukraine and Iraq signed a contract for the supply of 420 vehicles BTR-4 for a total amount of 457,5 million dollars. The main contractor is the Morozov Kharkiv Design Bureau (KMDB), co-contractors are the State Enterprise “Malyshev Plant” (Kharkiv), and other Concern enterprises.

http://topwar.ru/23989-minoborony-iraka-prinyali-40-btr-4-ukrainskogo-proizvodst

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Representatives of Iraq contradict themselves, people who accept the equipment are mostly satisfied, and some Iraqi deputy (probably a grant-eater) carries heresy and nonsense.

[Alekseev]

Yes, we read newspapers, watch the news!
But with the current state of affairs in the Ukrainian defense industry, failures with the quality of armored personnel carriers or other products are more likely to be the norm than an annoying misunderstanding.
I’ll say right away, so as not to cause the righteous anger of the “broad” Ukrainians, that in Russia the same problems are taking place.
One of the main reasons, roughly speaking, is that dividends from contracts receive many approximatebut not engineers and defense workers. They are simply "thrown a bone". As well as the enterprises famous in the already distant Soviet past. And the "group of comrades" is making money.

[xzWhiteWolf]

But nothing that the guns on the armored personnel carrier break during the training of the Iraqi military? Why should they be satisfied. And this is just what I know.

[Akim]

xzWhiteWolf,
Have you seen it personally or do you have access to documents of the Ministry of Defense of Iraq or the Russian Federation?
The Internet is like a fence, who wants it and writes.

[MLUI]

The Americans gave a yawning handout in the form of this contract. But in reality, the armored personnel carriers are pretty but it’s for the Americans. Keyword WHOLE satisfied. Yeah crap

[Polymer]

BTR-4 figovye ???? specialist.....

[APASUS]

Quote: garik404

Representatives of Iraq contradict themselves, people who accept the equipment are mostly satisfied, and some Iraqi deputy (probably a grant-eater) carries heresy and nonsense.

Possible catch with the article, but with the terms that the deputy also messed up ???

[garik404]

I don’t argue (in my message there wasn’t a word about the deadlines), everything’s clear on the deadlines - the fact of delivery failure on the face! For such cases, there are clauses on penalties in contracts (their application is Iraq’s legal right).
But regarding the deputy’s allegations that all the BTR "very old, corpses rusty, machines unusable."Forgive me - this is bullshit.
And besides, there is no link to an official source or full name of the same deputy.
And by this, wait and see.
But I remain with my opinion expressed a little higher ...

[zulu_1]

They just forgot to make a rollback to Iraqi deputies

[Gluxar_]

Quote: garik404

Representatives of Iraq contradict themselves, people who accept the equipment are mostly satisfied, and some Iraqi deputy (probably a grant-eater) carries heresy and nonsense.

So you read more closely. "As part of a corruption investigation." It is clear that whoever got a paw does not complain. But today the inspectors in Iraq have changed and they did not give a paw. So soon the problems will grow before our eyes.

[knn54]

Azerbaijan paid Turkey for weapons that the latter are only going to make. And no complaints.
Here, apparently, something else. They took out the stale buildings (from storage?), And someone used the paint for personal purposes or the deadlines were tightened, at the end of the quarter, the 3rd shift ... And there are a lot of officials lobbying for the interests of competitors.

[Black Colonel]

So maybe from Chornobyl itself? And what? - pulled, cleaned, painted and go!

[Geisenberg]

So otozh, and you thought how business is done?

[Geisenberg]

Popadalovo is natural for the seller. We can assume that no one else will buy their armored vehicles :)

[Good man]

Quote: Geisenberg

opalovo natural for the seller. We can assume that no one else will buy their armored vehicles :)

I'll upset you ... In the Russian Federation, even after Algeria returned the fighters due to the terrible build quality, buyers are still there. But those fighters clearly left the Russian Defense Ministry. But we have not yet returned the goods ...

[Gemar]

Quote: Good man

I'll upset you

Well, upset, so upset!

Quote: Good man

due to terrible build quality

?? Did you use nails? Or have you forgotten the jackhammer inside?
As far as I remember, the claims were to the low quality of the individual component parts.

Quote: Good man

And we have not yet returned the goods

I wish the Ukrainians (this is not for you, a good check) so that it doesn’t come to that, so that we can be proud of the Soviet design school with the Ukrainians!

[Vadivak]

all delivered armored personnel carriers "are very old, corpses are rusty
When did they have time to rust? Drives Iraqi, probably Americans were interested in loot

BTR-4E (equipment for delivery to the armed forces of Iraq) was adopted by the Ukrainian army 24 July 2012 year. [9]

[domokl]

Quote: Vadivak

BTR-4E (equipment for delivery to the armed forces of Iraq) was adopted by the Ukrainian army 24 July 2012 year. [9]

Vadim, what about the contract then? It was concluded in 2009 ... that is. it turns out, Ukraine entered into a contract without having armored personnel carriers available?

[Vadivak]

Quote: domokl

Vadim, what about the contract then? It was signed in 2009 ... i.e.

Correctly, the first four went to Iraq in 2011 (planned in the fall of 2010) but Ukrspetsexport disrupted the contract. In Kharkov they managed to make 11 cars, but they didn’t make it to the parade in Baghdad and entered the Ukraine (Iraqi version) in 2012

And now here’s what - Iraq will buy $ 2013 billion worth of weapons in the United States by 13. (This is from the news of 2010) and only 526 billion, here it is Th

[domokl]

Quote: Vadivak

), and to Ukraine (Iraqi version) in 2012

So it turns out that with this contract someone very strongly set up Ukraine ... After all, the BTR is a continuation .. Various overlays have already been discussed here several times ... Or have the Ukrainians ventured and are losing? I just don’t understand the logic of such contracts ... To make the prestige of the entire military-industrial complex dependent on one contract is somehow silly ...

[Egoza]

What is it? Urgently needed to get the loot! And then it was necessary to saw it! In the meantime, sawed armored personnel carriers rusted! And what are the claims?

[domokl]

Quote: Egoza

Urgently needed to get the loot! And then it was necessary to saw it! In the meantime, sawed armored personnel carriers rusted! And what are the claims?

ahhhh ... well, I understand .... I really wanted to eat, so I acted the same way as the Chinese did in Soviet times ... In the morning they planted potatoes, in the evening they dug up, I really wanted to eat

[Kaa]

Quote: Egoza

Urgently needed to get the loot! And then it was necessary to saw it! In the meantime, sawed armored personnel carriers rusted!

But how they vomited in order to receive defense contracts, the military contingent was sent to Iraq to help the Yusovites ... some did not return ... alive. But in general, it’s enough to recall how NATO fed the promises of bulk purchases of the An-70 ... until they did their analogue, how Turkey was going to buy Kharkov tanks ... until the United States gave them their second-hand. How much more can you flirt with the West ?!

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Vadivak

and only 526 billion, that's it

Among the comma is nowhere needed?

[Vadivak]

Quote: Vladimirets

Among the comma is nowhere needed?

This is for all the time until 2030, oil calculation

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Vadivak

This is for all the time until 2030, oil calculation

Ahhhhh, otherwise I already drank 300g of validol.

[Avenger711]

So everyone does it. But Ukraine has already disrupted production deadlines.

[Artmark]

It’s not the Iraqi who is driving, but they told him how to behave ... probably want to sell

[Vadivak]

Quote: ArtMark

Not the Iraqi drives, but he was told how to behave.

Those are just the view from the side, it is clear that who the occupier is and the girl is dancing

[TRAFFIC]

probably amerikosy loot interested

The fact is that this contract is being executed with American money and it was the Americans who lobbied for the purchase of Ukrainian armored vehicles, so they had nothing to do with it. Who else remained with the dough, who is interested in breaking the contract?

[Lopatov]

The contract is executed on Iraqi money. Do not confuse Iraq with Afghanistan.

The Poles are interested in the failure of the contract. You crossed the road with this deal.

[TRAFFIC]

I am not confusing anything.

After the participation of the Ukrainian military contingent in the coalition forces in Iraq in 2003, the United States, having allocated $ 2,4 billion to Iraq for the purchase of new military equipment and weapons, from the potential exporting countries - Poland, the Czech Republic, Bulgaria, Slovenia, Ukraine - chose namely Ukraine.

It is no secret that the contracts of September 2009 for the purchase in Ukraine of 420 BTR-4 (worth $ 457,5 million) and six An-32B military transport aircraft (worth $ 95 million) were actually imposed on the Iraqi government by the United States and represented a kind of "payoff" to Ukraine on the part of the Americans as compensation for Kiev's support for the US campaign in Iraq. Back in September 2007, the Pentagon published a notice about the upcoming sale to Iraq of 336 Ukrainian armored personnel carriers BTR-3E1 through the mechanism of American intergovernmental deliveries through the FMS line. However, in the end, Iraq was forced to conclude a contract for the purchase of newer BTR-4s in Ukraine, becoming their launch customer. According to the terms of the contract, all 420 BTR-4 vehicles were to be delivered by March 2012.

There were articles on the Mirror of the Week about all the rehearsals of this contract, everything is described in detail there, but unfortunately no longer.

[Kaa]

Quote: Spade

Poles are interested in the failure of the contract

An amorphous entity called "United Oopiziya" (Ukrainian) is interested in breaking the contract, or rather in the hype. This material is available only on the controversial site "Koorespodent? - No!" Here is this link -http: //korrespondent.net/business/economics/1514389-irakskij-deputat-obvinil-uk

rainu-v-postavkah-rzhavyh-i-staryh-btr This fake is not found anywhere else.
There were investigations in terms of a year ago and two years ago .. Here is the last mention of armored vehicles on their website from 04.02.13/XNUMX/XNUMX - "Interfax-Ukraine, citing sources in Ukrspetsexport, reports that in Kiev, representatives of the Iraqi Defense Ministry signed an acceptance certificate for the next batch As noted following the signing of the act, the Iraqi side is satisfied with the progress of cooperation under the contract with Ukrainian partners and the characteristics of the new Ukrainian armored vehicles.
"The tests were successful. No serious problems have been identified. We are pleased with the process of cooperation with the Ukrainian side. In Iraq, the previously transferred Ukrainian-made BTR-4s are being operated in the most difficult field conditions. This is a new, advanced vehicle for the Iraqi army," - reported in the company. It was previously reported that Iraqi experts discovered flaws in the Ukrainian armored personnel carriers. Meanwhile Last year, Iraq applied financial sanctions to Ukraine for disrupting the bilaterally established delivery of Ukrainian weapons. Then, in the commentary on the details of the corresponding account for $ 18 million, which the Trade Bank of Iraq was supposed to transfer to the account in Ukreximbank, the Iraqi side noted that of the total amount of $ 21 million that was supposed to go to Ukraine, $ 3 million were withdrawn as penalties.
http://korrespondent.net/business/companies/1497397-ukraina-peredala-iraku-eshch

e-forty-bronetransporterov
The correspondent just published the "jeans" paid by the opposition

[queen]

This is not luck ((((((((setup and states.

[Renat]

Rusty body. There it is clearly written in the instructions - to process with a file or at least sandpaper. (Anecdote about the fighter and the engine).

[Pharao7766]

And the Iraqis do not want to go on a rectal campaign ...
Cars were made, Iraqis arrived, they themselves checked and accepted.
Most likely the Yankees were given to someone, or the dough was sent, and now the whining started.
But I'm sure they didn’t run into those!

[SCS]

that's it! Well this is not buying sledges from the children's world! everything is as it should, with tests and acceptance! so this is definitely a provocation ...

[JonnyT]

The deputy is a political prostitute bought by the United States.

[Larus]

At the same time, the deputy claims, the investigation revealed that all the delivered armored personnel carriers

"very old, corpses rusty, machines unusable."

How were they then taken ....

[apro]

Correctly right, their wolves have nothing to climb where it is not necessary. Iraq is our cow and we milk it.

[erased]

They decided to make an armored personnel carrier out of an armored personnel carrier, not an infantry fighting vehicle, but a support fighting vehicle. And all at the old base of the Soviet armored personnel carrier.
Neither in our country nor in Ukraine will they understand what the difference between them is.
You can sculpt mounted equipment and weapons on the old building as much as you like, but there’s little sense in it.
Again, the old rake - the concept of using armored personnel carriers. Success Ukrainian lads in stuffing cones.
And fooling partners is not gut.

[Akim]

Quote: erased

You can sculpt mounted equipment and weapons on the old building as much as you like, but there’s little sense in it.

But what does the BTR-4 and BTR-80 have in common except the width. I still agree that the three have inherited the form of a corps.

[Vadivak]

Quote: erased

And all at the old base of the Soviet armored personnel carrier.

There was already a discussion, another car, exit from the stern and weapons, a lot of everything

[rpek32]

But what when they take the goods, do not look what they take? A muddy topic ...

[slvevg]

Most likely a provocation, or a hint for Yanyk. Political language is subtle. This is a hint - merge, don’t have a hadi, here a hadi! Infa should be born most likely before the Ukraine-EU summit. Ukrainian colleagues will soon catch up and explain everything!

[VadimSt]

Well yes! The 2009 contract of the year, the chronology of world and domestic events in Ukraine is known, the same year. Simply, Ukraine had to be tied to a pro western position. I would not be surprised if everything was calculated in advance, including the impossibility of fulfilling the contract within these terms and the possibility of breaking the contract - but Ukraine supported all the initiatives of the West, participated in peacekeeping and distanced itself from Russia.
"The eggs are not laying yet, but let the chicken walk in our yard, and look there and fry it!"

[TRAFFIC]

Well yes, of course, a world conspiracy. No need to transfer your problems and mistakes to others. Moreover, the contract is fulfilled.

[Good man]

The deputy wants his share ... but they no longer give ... everything is already divided.

[opkozak]

As far as is known, the BTR-4E case and design are different from previous models. And the new iron is very rusty if you do not prime the minium, and before that carefully remove the scale. They drove, they did not get enough people. Therefore, the nails come out. The engines are normal there, the chassis too. And the Iraqis, they just started to learn the division label.

[BARKAS]

Something is wrong here if the contract was concluded with the filing of the USA, why is there so much noise and such a result that the Ukrainians have crossed the road? don't converge something here. Moreover, the delay in military contracts has recently become a common thing in the world.

[zanoza]

Allegorically. Ukraine is now in a state of free floating (chattering), it has not yet been washed ashore on any coast. From each bank they wave: "Come to us!" - here the armored personnel carriers are "soiled" and therefore rustyfrom one shore "yes, you choke on your AN-70"- from the other side."Carrot and stick"is a proven way of playing politics.

[Alex 31]

This is for Yanukovych to blow the wind vane correctly.

[tun1313]

There is an article on the Internet, "BTR-4E near" there the situation is more detailed (as of September 2012) with pictures, I will not give a link in the search for finding without problems.

[sribnuu]

One deputy blurted out something and how many subjects! The topic is not about anything!

[pa_nik]

Oh how! And last week vigorously reported on the closure of the contract ... I still praised them .. Let them take our equipment! We have a quality

[demon ada]

where Ukraine will disappear if from all sides begin to tighten the nuts
Russia will block gas, introduce a visa regime and ask to pay debts
EU will say nah we need a crisis
USA just send
and where the lads run ???

[Good man]

Quote: demon ada

where Ukraine will disappear if from all sides begin to tighten the nuts
Russia will block gas, introduce a visa regime and ask to pay debts
EU will say nah we need a crisis
USA just send
and where the lads run ???

yeah, a meteorite will fall on Ukraine, the Dnieper will flow back, and the dead will rise from the graves ...

[Kars]

The armored personnel carriers are "very old, the hulls are rusty, the vehicles are unusable."

After this joke, it becomes clear that this .. diputat .. they haven’t seen them in the eye. Yes, and maybe it just doesn’t exist.

for interest, the photo of the BTR 3 for Thailand, and the photo 4 of the shipment to Iraq was in the last article)))))))

[Pablo]

photoshop! dumbly done.

[Akim]

Pablo,
And this is not Photoshop with a frozen Thai on top?

[Alikovo]

SURE DELIVERED BY OLD APCS

[Akim]

Quote: Alikovo

SURE DELIVERED BY OLD APCS

Do they have used?

[leon-iv]

SURE DELIVERED BY OLD APCS
And the corps took from 80 to
P'P ° Pј СЃР ° РјРѕРјСѓ то РЅРµ СЃРјРµС € РЅРѕ?
And I would very much like to see these rusty armored personnel carriers

[andrei332809]

when ho-ho-l was born, ev-ray cried?

[pechv]

And why do you think that it was the Americans who strained the deputy? Maybe the Russians just fussed? After all, is this also beneficial for us?
It is appropriate to recall a slightly modified question to Professor Preobrazhensky:
-And how did they (the Iraqi military) accept rusty and faulty cars?
To which the deputy will answer - I did not appoint them

The question and answer pair is universal and explains everything. Even the screams of an Iraqi deputy.

[stroporez]

I don’t know why such statements are sometimes malevolent. So Ukraine "for free" will be able to cut down American rubles ----- I’ll be glad. And Iraq worries me the least. Like any amerskoe backwater

[Hardcore]

Let them find where it is better and fall off.

[avt]

One of the two - or a deputy was not included in the commission, or the second did not include the deputy in the commission. That's why he is concerned about the quality of technology, for some reason I do not believe

[Egoza]

Quote: avt

One out of two

There is also a third option. Some cars were accepted and examined, the act was signed, and then sent, and the new ones on the road "evaporated" - the "old ones" appeared. The scheme is the same as in the appearance of the required ballots in sealed ballot boxes.

[KCC]

If the information from Iraq is correct, then difficulties will arise with sales of military equipment to Ukraine. It is possible that this is done intentionally. Who from the west wants to merge a competitor.

[Roomata]

nothing so pleasing as the failure of a neighboring unit
(bitter reality)

[Geisenberg]

We will consider that this page is closed for the Ukrainian defense industry. Welcome to us :)

[vilenich]

There is another background. They set aside the Iraqi mediator, who provided for the interests of the locals, so now they are doing everything to make it seem small.

[homosum20]

Any Russian knows what is better than any Iraqi expert. \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ armored personnel carriers - this is not a dummy or fat to buy.

[Good man]

Quote: homosum20

Any Russian knows what is better than any Iraqi expert. \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ armored personnel carriers - this is not a dummy or fat to buy.

Well, where are we going to the world-famous AvtoVAZ build quality

[homosum20]

For information - VAZ does not produce armored personnel carriers. But better than ZAZ - that's for sure.

[Akim]

Quote: homosum20

But better than ZAZ - that's for sure.

As for the Grants, I won't say, I did not hold it in my hands, but Kalina starts to fall apart with the mileage where Lanos has only minor breakdowns ..

[homosum20]

Is Lanos a Ukrainian car?

[Akim]

Quote: homosum20

Is Lanos a Ukrainian car?

ZAZ nameplate, collected in the same place. Or are you looking for a constructor? So the "penny" was also not invented in the Union, but the top ten was developed in Porsche.

[homosum20]

Truth is an unpleasant thing. Both for the speaker and the listener.

[Algor73]

APCs are good, nothing to discuss. For some reason, they are silent for the Thai contract, it turns out that the equipment goes there normal, and bad in Iraq. Different people and in different factories is being done, or what !? Here is one of two things: either the Americans intervened, they take revenge on Yanyku, or (sorry, Slovenian brothers) the Russians, in order to cut down a little cabbage themselves

[Akim]

Quote: Algor73

APCs are good, nothing to discuss. For some reason, they are silent for the Thai contract,

Right. These APCs differ only in the shape of the hull. Unification is maximum.

[homosum20]

No, in Iraq the wrong people were rolled back. There, the changes are constant, and the Shtatovtsy are trying to control the processes, it is difficult to guess who will last how much in their place will cover this pus. In Thailand, everything is more stable.

[Avenger711]

The contract has long been disrupted. There is nothing to discuss here, the quality, or rather its absence, cannot but raise doubts.

[Algor73]

The contract is not broken, it is tight, but fulfilled. Even European arms suppliers are breaking deadlines. Well, where did you get the quality information?

[Akim]

Avenger711,
Have the "Admiral Gorshkov" been handed over to the Indians?

[morpex]

I’m already tired of repeating that I live next to LKMZ. This is where the hulls are made for these APCs. By the way, they are brewed from scratch from the new armor. There is also a repair and restoration of old hulls. The plant is working. Everything is on time. Maybe there are delays on other nodes somewhere? I don’t know. I will not argue. Regarding rust, this is not true. My son works there. And they simply dismiss me for marriage without maintenance. People try. Nobody wants to lose a well-paid job. They shout for cutting money. I’ll say that they’re not sawing. But the plant has slowly begun a large-scale re-equipment of equipment that has not been around since the Union. So, these grandmothers do not saw everything for the contract. There is still competition on the world arms market! So they roll the barrel to Ukraine. By the way, one world arms contract is not bad babies without any scandals. And the Russians rip off both Americans and others .... So, what shouldn't be done out of an elephant’s fly. They’ll put everything. And judging by some comments, here in Ukraine there are only fools in trousers and zhupans who have eaten fat and vodka and stupidly looking at their rusty armored personnel carriers, with a thought about who to get them in ....
By the way, representatives of the host country are frequent guests here. And they are looking at the technology. I dare you to assure quality control that goes along the whole chain.

[Igor]

Something is unlucky for our neighbors with armored personnel carriers, although these armored personnel carriers are the same katofalki as our armored personnel carrier-82,90, etc.

[Moccal]

Firstly, Ukraine does not border the Republic of Kazakhstan.
Secondly, Kazakhstan does not produce BTR-82,90, etc.

[Igor]

And thirdly, I'm on a business trip, comrade M..scal.)
And change the nickname, otherwise that word is obscene, otherwise you can just as well be called ... just like that.)

[Vital 33]

And by the way, Kazakhstan will collect BTR-4 ... (s)

[REZMovec]

Two options for one joke:
1st: Two Caucasians met - one says to the other: Vano - you have a Volga, I have a Volga, and Shota has a Zaporozhets. Let's throw it off on the Volga ...
2nd: Two Slavs met - one says to another: Ivan - you "sat", I - "sat", and Petka - not "sat". Let's "put" him in ...

This is the whole difference between "brothers-Slavs". This is sad...

As for the BTR-4, the car is excellent and of high quality. It cannot rust (if acid is not watered). The WESTERN WEST is trying in this way to influence the political choice of Ukraine. And the Russian Federation has not gone far from the WEST.

[Skavron]

Iraqi commissioner received orders from owners to squabble
one question ... when did they take it, where did they look?
so write ... and provocation ...