Corruption and Collapse: Ukraine's Weimar Scenario. Again

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Corruption and Collapse: Ukraine's Weimar Scenario. Again


Early in the autumn morning, cold and damp, sheltered from the first rays of the sun by the treetops of the Compiegne forest, the carriage of General Ferdinand Foch stood motionless. Inside the carriage, the head of the German delegation, Matthias Erzberger, signed the armistice agreement with his own hand at 11:1918 a.m. on November 5, 20, and in fact on the capitulation of Germany and recognition of its defeat in the First World War. the war – “the war to end all wars.” Six hours later, 6 salvoes mark the end of four years of bloodshed. Only temporarily.



22 years later, in the same forest and even in the same train car, France will capitulate to Germany. On June 22, 1940, with the second Compiegne armistice, Hitler, having personally insisted on the place and conditions of signing, will divide the victorious country of the Great War, France, into occupation zones and transfer power into the hands of Vichy.

Martin van Creveld combines both world wars into one – the Second Thirty Years' War (1914–1945). Perhaps such an understanding is overly romanticized, but today almost no one doubts that the Second World War is a direct consequence of the results of the First.

Post-war Interwar Germany was soon gripped by the Weimar syndrome, named after the young republic that replaced the shattered German Empire. Nostalgic post-imperial sentiments were also fueled by revanchism, the cornerstone of which was the “stab in the back” legend.

According to legend, German army left the battlefield undefeated, and the country was plunged into chaos and ruin due to the treacherous actions of its political leadership. The legend was born in military and extreme nationalist circles (among whose ranks was the young Adolf Hitler, wounded during the Battle of the Somme). "Rootless civilians" sent the great German Empire to the scrap heap stories, while the valiant army did everything for victory.

In fact, such theories have objective grounds.

Despite the ruined industry and the extreme exhaustion of the troops as a result of the Kaiser's simultaneously stunning and unsuccessful offensive under Ludendorff, the German army was able to hold the line for a long time, slowly retreating and exhausting the enemy.

And the Entente troops were soon threatened by the same thing that had recently befallen Ludendorff – a logistical catastrophe and the inability to supply the advancing units. Incidentally, this was written about not only by the resentful Germans, but also by the British, such as the English General Frederick Maurice in his book about the final four months of the war on the Western Front – The Last Four Month.

It was precisely the conviction that the German soldiers had gone away undefeated (Felde unbesiegt), but betrayed by their own politicians. The greatest military duo in German history, Ludendorff and von Hindenburg, shared this hypothesis.

So, after the defeat of the Ukrainian People’s Republic in the Civil War, Soviet Ukraine found itself in the same position – incompetent leadership and partners in the form of the already losing central powers “betrayed” the UPR.

Dissatisfaction and a sense of injustice became fertile ground for extremist ideas. It was during this period that the revival of nationalist sentiments began, associated with the figure of Stepan Bandera. Bandera, although he became famous later, fit into this political picture as a symbol of radical nationalism, which fed on myths of betrayal and "stab in the back."

Today, the situation of Ukrainian troops at the front is getting worse every day. With every piece of clothing and food stolen from the defensive structures for the military, drones and other support, even the military industry, millions of hryvnias of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, and Ukraine is approaching collapse. With each insane PR offensive, on Melitopol, Crimea, Kursk, with each "fortress" Bakhmut and Avdiivka, the Ukrainian political elites are systematically destroying their country, their army and their people.

However, the pace of advance of Russian troops suggests that Ukraine still has the potential to at least resist. The frantic mobilization on the streets of Ukraine suggests that the Ukrainian Armed Forces still have people to at least defend themselves. The vague statements of Ukrainian politicians about preserving the capital and statehood, echoed by Western media, could still give the country's exhausted population the illusion of victory at the end of the conflict.

They could, but from August 6, 2024, they can no longer. Kursk region is the last note of Zelensky's office in the requiem for Ukraine.

The inglorious end of those who invaded the territory of the Russian Federation is already quite obvious. However, the most important thing here is the lack of understanding of the actions of the command on the part of the military, who daily surrender populated areas under the onslaught of the RF Armed Forces in the Pokrovsky and Toretsky directions. The inept burning of such necessary reserves in the east near Kursk is a stab in the back of an army fighting an unequal opponent.

The first time we saw this was near Bakhmut, where the reserves necessary for the Azov operation were destroyed along with the city. The second time was the Azov massacre itself, photos of the dump of Bradleys and Leopards from there flew around the world. The third time was Avdiivka. The fourth was Krynki. The fifth was the incomprehensible, senseless self-destruction of combat-ready and ideologically motivated fighters of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and the Main Intelligence Directorate in the Kursk region.

I think the reader can guess where all this lengthy reasoning leads. The longer time goes by, the worse the conditions on which Ukraine will ultimately receive peace. And after the peace is concluded, a very painful stage of understanding what happened will begin. And then Ukraine will compare its positions in March 2022, in the summer of 2022, in the spring of 2023, and after Kursk.

Ukraine risks finding itself again in a situation where radicalization and the search for new “heroes” and “saviors” become inevitable. In the conditions of such a crisis, the emergence of new Banderas who will try to take advantage of the situation to achieve their goals cannot be ruled out.

History, as we know, has a tendency to repeat itself, and if the lessons of the past are not learned, Ukraine is threatened with another Weimar syndrome with its new legend of a stab in the back.

Corruption, lawlessness, PR campaigns costing thousands of soldiers – all this will leave its mark first and foremost on those who fight for Ukraine with faith in the best, but will receive what Bankova has prepared for them.
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  1. +28
    2 September 2024 04: 59
    Corruption, lawlessness of the authorities, PR campaigns and shows of clowns and buffoons, impoverishment of the people... Dancing on the bones... This will definitely leave its mark on those who fight... And it doesn't matter for money, for an idea, for faith in the best... And yes, history tends to repeat itself... And this is not about Ukraine
    1. 0
      2 September 2024 05: 47
      What Ukraine can we talk about here: "Post-war interwar Germany was soon gripped by the Weimar syndrome - named after the young republic that replaced the broken German Empire. Nostalgic post-imperial sentiments were fueled by revanchism, the cornerstone of which was the legend of the "stab in the back."

      According to legend, the German army left the battlefield undefeated, and the country was plunged into chaos and ruin due to the treacherous actions of its political leadership. The legend originated in military and extreme nationalist circles (among whose ranks was the young Adolf Hitler, wounded during the Battle of the Somme). "Rootless civilians" sent the great German Empire to the dustbin of history, while the valiant army did everything for victory." - all this, as well as about unfairly torn away territories, divided compatriots who must be returned to their native harbor, humiliation of national dignity I have been listening to since 1993, living in a completely different country, although here, instead of Jews, liberal democrats were to blame for everything. You are right about history, but I hope this time you will have enough sense to stop at the edge.
      1. +4
        2 September 2024 07: 03
        instead of the Jews, we ended up blaming the liberal democrats for everything
        Isn't this a synonym?
      2. -2
        2 September 2024 13: 00
        What the hell!?! What about the 1997 Friendship Treaty?
    2. +21
      2 September 2024 06: 25
      The author made a mistake with the state. And yes, this applies to both sides. Russia and Ukraine. Russians are killing Russians. The West is applauding. What Napoleon, Kaiser and Hitler could not achieve is being accomplished here and now.
      1. +6
        2 September 2024 09: 11
        The author made a mistake with the state. And yes, this applies to both sides. Russia and Ukraine. Russians are killing Russians. The West is applauding. What Napoleon, Kaiser and Hitler could not achieve is being accomplished here and now.


        Exactly, here many are surprised by the "strange" decision on both sides. But if we consider that both sides of the "conflict" are controlled from a single center and carry out the task of killing as many Russians as possible, then everything fits together.
        But for a capitalist, his “homeland” is where his money is.
      2. AAK
        +7
        2 September 2024 10: 57
        Well, the "democratic liberals", both the "early" ones, headed by EBN, Gaidar and other Sobchaks, Popovs, Chubais, Kozyrevs, and the "late" ones, from which the Great One with DAM and cronies come ("patriots-statists" are just, in my opinion, a fashionable suit that was not worn before and will be replaced when the fashion passes), did everything to make it "low class" for "other Russians" to consider themselves Russian, and all aspirations were reduced to "lace panties and the EU", therefore, when timid attempts were made to destroy the "age-old dream of the GREAT UKRAINIAN FREEBAY" (European life on the shore of an ocean of vodka with a beach of lard), then there are quite enough volunteers to "fight the damned Muscovites" and now...
      3. -12
        2 September 2024 13: 01
        There are no Russians in Ukraine, because the Ukrainians do not consider themselves Russians. So, Russians do not kill Russians.
    3. -10
      2 September 2024 13: 02
      And what are you hinting at? What is this universal sadness about?
  2. +28
    2 September 2024 05: 37
    This article would be very relevant if it were February 23, 2022, oh wait, the calendar says September 02.09.2024, 2023, literally like the meme with Yuri Gagarin, how are your descendants doing? I don't know whose inglorious end they are watching there, but the dead man stubbornly kicks, and the morgue doesn't want to go. And the examples are not the best either, near the same Bakhmut we also left quite a few people, and equipment at the beginning of XNUMX near Ugledar, machinations with low-quality bulletproof vests, and so on. We ourselves have already found ourselves in some kind of incomprehensible situation, according to the Kremlin's reaction, the patient is neither alive nor dead, just yesterday we were shot at quite a lot around the territory. The death of Kursk residents from shelling is already becoming commonplace, you can safely call me a doomsayer, but it is difficult to call what is happening that everything is going according to plan, and to write articles in a series: everything is fine, beautiful marquise, to put it mildly, causes even more bewilderment when compared with reality, well, or maybe I live in some other country without alpine meadows and cute unicorns.....
  3. +18
    2 September 2024 06: 02
    It seems to me that reality is very different from the author’s fantasies.
  4. +16
    2 September 2024 06: 28
    Today, with each passing day, the situation of Ukrainian troops at the front is getting worse.
    Since February 23, 2022, it has gotten worse and worse, but they have not yet left the Kursk region.
    1. -4
      2 September 2024 13: 04
      Well, they won't leave! They will all stay there, forever!
  5. +4
    2 September 2024 07: 02
    The Second World War is a direct consequence of the results of the First
    And some historians even believe that WWII is a continuation of WW1, with a short break for lunch.
  6. -17
    2 September 2024 07: 26
    Admins, TsIPSO is registered here...
    1. +12
      2 September 2024 10: 07
      When there is nothing to cover, we remember about tsipso. And yes, let's put everyone under the same comb, there should be only one opinion, written from above?
      1. -9
        2 September 2024 13: 08
        What's there to cover for? The fact that the remnants of Ukraine will slide into Nazism is a medical fact, it doesn't make us hot or cold. Well, they'll spend the next twenty years figuring out who sold out the motherland, what does it matter to us? Let them shoot all their kikes, we don't give a damn.
    2. -1
      2 September 2024 21: 08
      And in huge quantities, mind you! Look how they put pluses on all sorts of nastiness!
    3. 0
      2 September 2024 21: 31
      Quote: egsp
      Admins, TsIPSO is registered here...

      Tsipso glues pseudo-patriotic avatars on himself... Like, a soldier liberator of the Red Army... Or a hammer and sickle, a red banner... Bandera's "champions of Russia" from Zhmerinka and Krizhopeli and from the very the great israeli city of ashdod ..
  7. +16
    2 September 2024 07: 51
    Every analogy is lame, and the one given by the author is especially so. The moods characteristic of the 20s of the 20th century in Germany are typical of Russia in the 90s. Only the version of betrayal for Russia is not a version, but the Truth.
    That is why the arrival of a new leader and all the chatter about the “Russian world” initially caused some enthusiasm, which is now evaporating.

    This does not work with Ukraine. Because after the UPR there were decades of the Soviet period. Friendship of nations does not grow in the forest on bushes. It is created and nurtured in the state as rational relations for joint work. Therefore, the long Soviet period after the fall of the UPR until the 80s and including the Great Patriotic War cannot be similar to the Weimar Republic.

    But as soon as the Soviet state collapsed, the idea of ​​hatred instantly grew on the ruins of the friendship of nations. Like thistles growing on the site of arable land.
    So, "it wasn't about the reel" and not about the Weimar Republic.... All conflicts occurring in the post-Soviet territory are a consequence, first of all, of the collapse of the USSR
  8. -5
    2 September 2024 08: 02
    Nostalgic post-imperial sentiments were also fueled by revanchism, the cornerstone of which was the legend of the “stab in the back”
    Stabbed in the back - This is not a legend at all. Remember who incited the Kiel sailors to speak out against the war and who carried out the treacherous anti-war propaganda? For those who have forgotten, I can remind you of two scoundrels - Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht...
    1. +3
      2 September 2024 10: 01
      Quote: Luminman
      For those who have forgotten, I can remind you of two scoundrels - Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht...

      So you wanted the Germans to win? And you don't care about the lives of all these soldiers?
      1. +1
        2 September 2024 16: 07
        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
        You don't care about the lives of all these soldiers?

        You need to read the comment more carefully and think with your head, not with the keyboard...
  9. +5
    2 September 2024 08: 35
    I was somehow hooked by one place in the confession of a repentant Banderite. Well, not the current one, but the old one from That War, the real one. Who first realized who and what they were fighting when they first showed him St. Petersburg with ships at the mouth of the Neva, and then day after day they drove him across Russia to the place of imprisonment. The realization of the scale and power of the USSR completely cleared his brain of illusions of an equal fight. It only dawned on him when he saw it with his own eyes.
    Unfortunately, there is no historical memory, it is a legend. A person stumbles over the same thing every time - without personal experience, most people fail to comprehend serious things. Ukrainians were brainwashed and brainwashed and brainwashed. And they were brainwashed. Now those who believed that it was possible to fight the Russians on equal terms are dying at the front. And most of those convinced ones seem to have already perished.
    We showed ourselves badly at the beginning of the events. Traditionally badly - lack of the most basic organization, poor command, unclear goals... All this gave birth to the conviction in the Ukrainians that they were capable of winning, even without serious efforts. All the following days, which turned into years, we gradually shattered this conviction. Such ideas are very difficult to cure, so it is not surprising how much time was spent on difficult work. Time and lives.
    We MUST win. If we win, our enemies and rivals will realize anew who they are messing with. If we lose, we will reduce everything to negotiations - our country will no longer be ours, and no longer a country...
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    2. 0
      5 September 2024 13: 10
      The realization of the scale and power of the USSR completely cleared his mind of any illusions of an equal struggle.


      It turns out that the Mujahideen also had to be given a tour of the USSR in order to be defeated?

      And Ukraine has been fighting for 2.5 years now, practically on equal terms, and even giving them a punch in the nose.

      We MUST win.

      And what is victory? The capture of Kyiv? The occupation of Ukraine? The establishment of the Medvedchuk regime?
      1. 0
        5 September 2024 15: 22
        If you get something similar based on my words, then I feel sorry for you.
        It is not Ukraine that is fighting, but we are holding back. If we stopped saving Ukrainian peace, everything would be over in a few weeks.
        Victory is the complete destruction of the "state" of Ukraine.
        1. 0
          6 September 2024 08: 06
          We are holding back so much that the "liberated" cities are in pieces, but we still organize regroupings and make difficult decisions. You can continue to console yourself with this fairy tale that "we haven't even started yet."

          What to do with the territory and the hostile population? In the same Afghanistan, the territory was also occupied, but it did not help. As well as for the Americans in Iraq.
          1. 0
            6 September 2024 08: 15
            That's right. Since the ancient Ukies began to turn cities into fortified areas, what should we do? We must turn them into ruins. If the Ukies do not make a human shield out of civilians, then there is always time and opportunity for evacuation. Because of this, there are so few envelopments and encirclements in which it would be possible to wipe out enemy soldiers. According to the ancient covenant of Russian warriors - if the enemy does not surrender, he is destroyed. So yes - they did not start.
            What hostile population?) We'll just have to shoot the blood-stained Ukrainians lurking among peaceful people and send to the blessed Outer West those who can't live organically in Russia. 3-4% of the population. The purges at Sheremetyevo show that this is a simple and easy operation.
            At the border, each evicted person will be ceremoniously handed lace panties and sent off with a powerful kick in the butt. Apparently, a robot will have to be brought in for this operation so that the border guards' legs don't hurt.
            1. 0
              6 September 2024 10: 02
              Well, yes, the Ukrainians are not playing fair again, otherwise we would have beaten them! But things haven't worked out for 2.5 years already.

              And you should look at history books to see what the actions you described lead to. There will be no victory, as you imagine. We live in the wrong century.
              1. 0
                6 September 2024 11: 47
                No matter how the ancient Ukrainians play, we will do them, and on our own terms. In 2,5 years, the Western Frontier has fallen into such a depression that it's a joy to behold. And it will get worse. Much worse)
                I read books, that's why I write what I write. Oh, by the way, the Outer West has diligently shown that it does not recognize any "sanctity of private property," and that it is necessary to take away money and valuables from everyone they don't like, without trial or law.
                So, at the border, the hijackers will stand in lace panties. Money, valuables, etc., etc., everything will be "frozen" forever) And near the border checkpoint there will be a low-temperature pyrolysis unit to obtain pyrogas and pyrolytic liquid from used Ukrainians. In line with "green energy"))
                1. 0
                  6 September 2024 15: 10
                  I'll save the link to your comment so that when your plan goes down the drain, I can come and write that I told you so.
  10. Des
    +9
    2 September 2024 08: 46
    Thanks to VO for the original article.
    But the author, probably)), was "bitten" by the main author of such articles on VO. Or this is a general so-called trend in payment for work))).
    For the picture + article.
    The rest is on the author's conscience.
  11. +11
    2 September 2024 08: 51
    Damn, how they love to divide the skin of an unkilled bear...
    To dream of dreams, of punishing those who not only resist, but cause very tangible damage. Human, material, and reputational.
    Victory may and will be (if the truce is refused for a long time), but the Victory may also turn out to be Pyrrhic.
  12. +7
    2 September 2024 09: 01
    Corruption, lawlessness, PR campaigns costing thousands of soldiers – all this will leave its mark first and foremost on those who fight for Ukraine with faith in the best, but will receive what Bankova has prepared for them.
    On June 2, 1897, the weekly "New York Journal", refuting rumors about the death of Mark Twain, quoted his telegram from London: "Reports of my death are greatly exaggerated" ... The same with Ukraine, they have been burying me since 2014 .. Moreover, with the "dead man", they concluded the Minsk agreements, then tried to conclude the Istanbul agreements, Peskov, here recently broadcast about some negotiations .. About the dead, they write an obituary, and not a preface ... to the obituary. Like, tomorrow he will die, as his predecessor once died.
    1. -6
      2 September 2024 13: 17
      Did the patient sweat before death? Very good....
      1. +4
        2 September 2024 13: 39
        While the patient is sweating, but not dead. It's too early to write an obituary. There is no need to pass off wishful thinking as reality. What is, is.. Nazism was buried in 1945, but it was not possible to drive an aspen stake into the grave. What today's Russia is rich in is hats. A minus, not mine. Just for the record.
        1. -7
          2 September 2024 15: 59
          Well, the patient will sweat for about twenty years, because it suits all interested parties, including Russia. Because for Russia, the Okrug is a very convenient theater of military operations for war with NATO, and there is no point in leaving it at all. That is, this is the case when victory over Ukraine will mean defeat in the confrontation with NATO. Why do we need this?
          At the same time, it can already be stated that Ukraine, in the form of Anti-Russia that it was created in 2022, has already been destroyed and will never be revived.
          1. +6
            2 September 2024 16: 02
            At the same time, it can already be stated
            Go ahead, who's stopping you from doing this? hi laughing
            1. -3
              2 September 2024 16: 04
              Can you say something against it? Well, just say it, and stop grinning.
              1. +5
                2 September 2024 16: 05
                Am I stopping you from making a statement? laughing hi
                1. -3
                  2 September 2024 17: 02
                  Can you actually say anything on the matter?
          2. +2
            3 September 2024 12: 30
            What strange logic.
            Please clarify the cause-and-effect relationship between your "Victory over the Ukrainians means defeat in front of NATO"...
            1. +2
              3 September 2024 22: 12
              I explain.
              A complete victory over Ukraine now would mean its occupation. That is, the Russian army would have to set up garrisons all over Ukraine and somehow pacify the Ukrainians without genocide and mass shootings.
              The Russian government will somehow be forced to feed and warm a couple of dozen million people who hate us. Etc.
              The question is: will this somehow strengthen Russia in its confrontation with NATO?
            2. 0
              3 September 2024 23: 19
              Continue.
              You will ask, what to do with this? And I will tell you, we don't need to defeat Ukraine. We need to organize a civil war in Ukraine, which, like a black hole, will not only destroy Ukraine itself, but also suck all the resources out of NATO. And only then, the Russian army will come to the depopulated areas, bringing light and salvation to the survivors. And not earlier, because no way.
              That's the way it is.
            3. 0
              4 September 2024 09: 37
              Well, in conclusion.
              NATO has an endless sea of ​​resources, BUT! And the ocean can be scooped out with a spoon if you have the necessary amount of time at your disposal.
              We have time.
              1. +3
                4 September 2024 10: 50
                We don't have time.
                1. The development of the 6th technological order, bypassing us, will throw us back to the Stone Age (in comparison).
                Technologically.
                2. Lack of human resources prevents the economy from developing.
                3. An attempt to replenish resources through migrants from Central Asia leads to a catastrophic degradation of government institutions, degradation of the level of the economy, Islamization of the country, and the displacement of the indigenous population from governing roles (principles of passionarity).
                1. -1
                  4 September 2024 14: 14
                  Oh, screw it. What is the 6th technological order? Where is it? In Europe, factories are closing one after another. In the States, they couldn't build factories to produce microchips because there was no one to work there!
                  Well, what do you mean there aren't enough labor resources? Where are there enough of them? I'll tell you where. There, where there's nothing to eat.
                  About migrants. You don't understand what you are writing about, because the problem is not migrants, but migration policy.
                  P.S. I do know how to spell the word "where".
                  1. +1
                    4 September 2024 15: 57
                    Yes Yes.
                    I work in a car company with a thousand cars.
                    We have 100 vacancies for drivers for the northern shift with a salary starting from 150 for the simplest option of category B.
                    And up to 300 per month for a crane operator.
                    And it's clean.
                    Auto mechanics from 170 thousand, and also about ten vacancies have been hanging for a long time.
                    Magnit pays for changing categories not only with salary increases but also with one-time bonuses.
                    They pay 30 thousand for bringing a friend to work
                    For the drivers.
                    Don't tell me fairy tales.
                    1. 0
                      4 September 2024 16: 26
                      And what's wrong with that? Or do you think that people should be forced to work for free?
                    2. 0
                      4 September 2024 17: 01
                      Continue.
                      Russia is a rich country and I don’t understand why you think that Russians should work for food.
                      1. +1
                        4 September 2024 20: 11
                        170 thousand - "for food"?
                        Clean.
                        With three meals a day and paid travel?

                        What kind of troll are you?
                        How much do you earn and who do you do it for?
                      2. -1
                        4 September 2024 22: 07
                        I'm a businessman.
                        How long have people been paid 170 "net"? A year maximum, before that a good salary was 60-80 thousand maximum. The increase in salaries began about six months after mobilization.
                        By the way, is "three meals a day" a shift or something? Well, that's probably not enough.
                        The Russians' reluctance to work is quite understandable, because under the Soviets, that's pretty much how it was, people worked for food. The communists took away the people's desire to work.
  13. +2
    2 September 2024 09: 03
    Regarding the fact that the German army could have fought for a long time))) I strongly advise the author to try the "Westphalian gingerbread")))
    1. +5
      2 September 2024 10: 00
      Quote: TermNachTER
      Regarding the fact that the German army could have fought for a long time))) I strongly advise the author to try the "Westphalian gingerbread")))

      I don't think it will help him. The author of "behind the forest" of the German army's combat capability "doesn't see the trees" - the general state of the country that the politicians saw when they signed the armistice (capitulation).
      I don't remember the person, but I came across a dialogue between a German diplomat and a British general (not an admiral!). When the first complained about the terrible situation in the country, when people were dying of hunger, the second sympathized with him, but thought to himself: "God save Great Britain and her navy".
      The army did indeed maintain its combat capability, but at the expense of the dire situation of the civilian population in strangled by a distant naval blockade Germany. The country clearly smelled of revolution (greetings from Kiel), which actually happened (the German comrades almost didn't make it in time, the politicians signed the armistice faster than them) and not the last, if not the first place in its suppression was played by the "Freikorps" units consisting of front-line soldiers.
      To what extent that reality corresponds to today's reality - everyone decides for themselves...
  14. +7
    2 September 2024 09: 20
    Author Oleg Olegov

    Samsonov and Ryabov decided to repeat the success of Ilf and Petrov?
    1. +2
      2 September 2024 19: 35
      Ilf and Petrov were Kataev's "literary slaves", if I understood the meaning of their relationship correctly. Whose slaves are Samsonov and Ryabov?.. Oh, the field of propaganda, it is such a dirty girl..
      1. +1
        2 September 2024 19: 55
        Ilf and Petrov were Kataev's "literary slaves", if I correctly understood the meaning of their relationship.

        Slaves is a strong word. Kataev and Petrov are brothers - Petrov's real name is Kataev. The elder Valentin, already a famous writer, helped the younger Evgeny with the plot of "The Twelve Chairs" in a brotherly way and promised to edit the book during the writing process for half the fee. No one expected such success.
        Whose slaves are Samsonov and Ryabov?

        Stomach.
  15. +8
    2 September 2024 10: 30
    Another explanation. And IMHO, a scam.
    It's very reminiscent of VO PR from that side.
  16. -7
    2 September 2024 16: 40
    As a result of the SVO, Ukraine will no longer exist.
    The SVO is not being held so that new “Banderas”, “Kravchuks”, “Kuchmas”, “Yanukovyches”, “Poroshenkos”, “Zelenskys” and other scum will appear.

    Scientifically, this is called "denazification" and "demilitarization".

    By the way, "denazification" of ALL of Ukraine! Our Supreme Commander-in-Chief never said that "denazification" would only be of some part of Ukraine...

    You are not my brother, Bandera girl!
    1. +1
      3 September 2024 05: 33
      Scientifically, this is called "denazification" and "demilitarization".

      The term "denazification" did not exist before February 24. Demilitarization existed, but the presence of Patriots and F-16s by the demilitarized side, which this side did not have before, would have recently called into question the very fact of demilitarization. I have always said that our Great Helmsman is an innovator in everything, including the meanings of scientific terms.

      so that new "Banderas", "Kravchuks", "Kuchmas", "Yanukovyches", "Poroshenkos", "Zelenskys" and other scum would appear.

      Wow belay And what about "Lysenko"? Will "Lysenko" at least remain?
  17. BAI
    +5
    2 September 2024 17: 21
    Kursk region is the last note of Zelensky’s office in the requiem for Ukraine.

    Let Russia negotiate. It will. Well, our government won't fulfill its latest promise. It's nothing new.
    They will say - we must save the lives of soldiers and civilians (no one will remember what those killed died for) and there will be peace. Ukraine will gather strength and there will be a new war.
  18. 0
    2 September 2024 23: 08
    "Interwar Germany was soon gripped by Weimar syndrome"

    The author treated a huge layer of this phenomenon (bloody regimes exported by local Bolsheviks) superficially.

    Fortunately for the Germans and Hungarians, the fire fanned by ethnic Bolsheviks (of the 10 leaders of the Hungarian Bolshevik coup, 9 were Jews) did not take place.
    Progressive circles, the aristocracy of Hungary, turned the situation to their advantage, partially killing and expelling the bloody conspirators.

    If the ethnic executioners had won, the people of Hungary would have faced a bloody civil war (like here in Russia), and mass murder of the indigenous population, hunger and destruction, ethnic cleansing, squeezing Hungarians out of any, more or less significant positions, deprivation of property, housing, etc.

    The Hungarians generally strongly hated the Jewish Bolsheviks for the bloody crimes that their revolutionaries committed, following the example of their half-blooded teachers from Bolshevik Russia.

    Because of this, for a very long time, Hungary could not establish relations with the USSR.

    Only after Great Stalin, put an end to this ethnic obscurantism (in 1937, having shot the leaders of the Hungarian coup, who were here in Russia), Horthy (the head of Hungary) made a friendly statement, saying that Hungary and the USSR have no unresolved issues that prevent our countries from getting closer.
  19. +2
    3 September 2024 14: 13
    Today, with each passing day, the situation of Ukrainian troops at the front is getting worse. With each stolen item of clothing and food for the military, drones and other supplies, even military industry, millions of hryvnias of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, and Ukraine is approaching collapse. With each insane PR offensive, on Melitopol, Crimea, Kursk, with each "fortress" Bakhmut and Avdiivka, the Ukrainian political elites are systematically destroying their country, their army and their people.

    Hmm, strange, why then does our guarantor constantly babble about negotiations? At the beginning of August he was frowning - THAT'S IT!!! Now no negotiations! But recently he started babbling about negotiations again. HOW should we understand this?
    The inglorious end of those who invaded the territory of the Russian Federation is already completely obvious.
    Oh really? Can you already see the Red Army there? Maybe the author is just hallucinating?
    The longer time goes by, the worse the conditions on which Ukraine will ultimately receive peace. And after the peace is concluded, a very painful stage of understanding what happened will begin. And then Ukraine will compare its positions in March 2022, in the summer of 2022, in the spring of 2023, and after Kursk.

    After the agreement is concluded, the Ukrainian Armed Forces will be pumped with weapons, mobilization and training of recruits will continue. And then war again. Only the loss of Ukrainian statehood, only a Ukrainian government under our control will guarantee our security and not a repeat of this war.
    Another cap-throwing, bravura article. negative
  20. +1
    4 September 2024 08: 58
    Quote: Adrey
    The army did indeed retain its combat capability, but at the expense of the plight of the civilian population in Germany, strangled by a distant naval blockade. The country clearly smelled of revolution (greetings from Kiel), which did happen (the German comrades almost didn't make it in time, the politicians signed the armistice faster than them) and not the last, if not the first place in its suppression was played by the "Freikorps" units consisting of front-line soldiers.


    Well?
    After all, revolutionary uprisings in Germany for some reason broke out not in the "distressed rear", but in the quite combat-ready German army. Hunger in itself does not lead to revolution, "subjective factors" are needed. There were such factors in the army - those who were infected with Bolshevism on the Eastern Front. After the signing of the Brest Peace, divisions "infected with the plague of Bolshevism" were transferred from the Eastern Front to the Western Front and "the process began"...

    If there had been no Bolshevism, Germany could well have continued its resistance. And there is no need to talk nonsense about famine - its threat is clearly exaggerated. In the short term, it was possible to buy provisions from neutrals for gold, which they managed to get from Soviet Russia under the terms of the Brest Peace. In the longer term - to use the territories conquered by the German army (in Poland, Ukraine, etc.) for agricultural production. Hundreds of thousands of hectares of fertile land, millions of additional workers. So - there is no point in broadcasting myths created by Anglo-Saxon propaganda. It is too unpleasant for Westerners to admit that the main contribution to the defeat of the Second Reich was made by Lenin and his comrades...
  21. +1
    4 September 2024 14: 42
    The author has confused what, on the contrary, needs to be untangled and put into perspective.
    The grievances of Germany and Ukraine, like they themselves, have become nothing more than a convenient tool for Great Britain and the USA. Those who, even “from the cradle,” have been organizing wars for the sake of their prosperity. This is the main moral that we can and should draw from this story.
    We are dealing with the implementation of a long-standing plan by the US/UK (Master of this war) to destroy our people and appropriate our territory and natural resources. They need the territory as a springboard on our continent for further expansion into China.
    33 years ago, using “their” functionaries in the CPSU, they staged a “palace coup” in the Moscow organization of the CPSU. With the help of a campaign of “fighting party privileges,” they removed its leadership and installed Yeltsin.
    Yeltsin and his group, through the Central Committee of the CPSU, consistently implemented decisions to dismantle the USSR, the Warsaw Pact, and replace the socio-economic system with a capitalist one. The people, trusting the party and the government, followed all their instructions. Similar actions were carried out in all union republics.
    The USA/Great Britain gained control over all the republics of the former USSR and could implement their geopolitical plans with their help.
    During Yeltsin's 10 years, they were OBLIGED to create a mechanism of power in Russia that would be completely subordinate to them in any change of leadership. They carried out similar actions in other former republics, in accordance with their "roles" in their plan.
    They made Ukraine and Russia a “lighter” for war in quiet and calm Europe.
    Ukraine has already been turned by the Master into a mindless fighting machine, which he controls as a driver and fills with fuel and weapons. He is turning NATO countries into similar machines.
    Now Ukraine, like a “red rag”, is drawing our attention and forces to itself in the Donetsk theater of military operations, from the NATO countries’ invasion of our territory in the Kursk theater of military operations that has begun.
    The Kursk theater of military operations is not the only one. The master of this war, with the help of bilateral agreements with Finland and Sweden, has prepared a potential theater of military operations in the northwest. He has similar theaters of military operations in the West (Baltic States) and the North (Norway).
    The existing US agreement on the urgent delivery to Japan of 400 Tomahawk cruise missiles of the latest modification indicates the US readiness to use the theater of military operations in the Far East.
    The superiority of NATO forces in manpower by 4,5 times and the fact that Khozin does not feel sorry for them makes nuclear weapons unnecessary for our destruction. For us, this means the disastrousness of entering this war.
    Russia needs to withdraw the “green light” to the US/UK, label them as an enemy and make the nuclear security of their own territories dependent on their retreat.
  22. 0
    5 September 2024 09: 17
    Quote: Zoer
    After the agreement is concluded, the Ukrainian Armed Forces will begin to be pumped with weapons, and the mobilization and training of new recruits will continue.


    They have been talking and writing about match-fixing for three years now, but somehow it never happens.
    And it won't, however. Russia will talk about peace with the US, not with Zalezhnaya. The Ukrainian authorities don't like this option at all, so Zelensky is doing everything to make peace talks impossible. Since establishing peace = eliminating Zelensky, possibly physically.
    As for mobilization and training, they are still ongoing, but they are of little help. It will take decades for Ukraine to heal its demographic losses.
  23. 0
    6 September 2024 21: 41
    Corruption...
    This happens here too, and in China.
    Corruption itself does not exist. Only with the help of those who want to profit from poor performance, or those who, while serving conscientiously, write down design errors as corruption.
    And also, the mansions of corrupt officials usually stand in deserts. No one lives near them, there are no buildings. That's why they couldn't be noticed for a long time.