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Mass media: Elite detachment of Turkish special forces destroyed in Syria

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ANKARA, 27 February. In Syria, Turkey’s special forces detachment suffered irreparable losses - the elite officer detachment Combat Search and Rescue "(CSR). According to some reports, the unit of so-called Kelbeti (ghosts) was almost completely destroyed.

Mass media: Elite detachment of Turkish special forces destroyed in Syria


According to ANNA-news, a special forces detachment of the General Staff of Turkey, better known as "maroon berets", was created in 1952, when Turkey joined NATO. Also in the country a Special Mobilization Tactical Group (STK) was created which consisted of detachments designed to create a partisan movement and conduct sabotage in the event of a Soviet attack. Moreover, the group was supposed to act not only in the country, but also abroad.

From 1985 to the present day, the special forces of the General Staff of Turkey almost continuously participate in special operations both inside the country and in Iraq and Syria.

Recall the relationship between Syria and Turkey escalated at the end of June 2012, when Syrian troops shot down a Turkish reconnaissance aircraft RF-4E, both pilots who died. Later, in early October, artillery shells fired from Syrian territory fell in the Akcakale district of Turkey. Then five people died from the explosions, and 11 was injured. In response, the Turkish parliament 4 of October gave the government a one-year mandate for cross-border military operations, including with regard to Syria.

In November, 2012, Turkey sent an official request to the Alliance for the provision of a Patriot air defense system to protect against possible attacks from Syria.

The conflict that erupted in Syria in March 2011, escalated into armed clashes between opposition and government forces. Syrian authorities claim that anti-government forces operating in the country are receiving outside support. To date, according to the UN, more than 70 thousand people have become victims of violence in the country.
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  1. vu-orlov
    vu-orlov 28 February 2013 06: 35
    +51
    And the more such news the better am
    1. esaul
      esaul 28 February 2013 06: 52
      +88
      The think-tank did not grow up with the Turkish special forces in order to confront the Russian special forces ... Who are you competing with, schoolchildren ?! fool
      1. domokl
        domokl 28 February 2013 06: 57
        +38
        Quote: esaul
        . Who you compete with, schoolchildren
        And we have nothing to do with it .. feel
        1. crocodile25
          crocodile25 28 February 2013 07: 09
          +4
          The British newspaper "found" the Russian military in Syria, and the Russian learned about the plan to send special forces. And here is the link to the article http://www.newsru.com/world/24dec2012/syria.html
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 28 February 2013 07: 16
            +21
            Quote: krokodil25

            British newspaper "found" Russian military in Syria,

            The British newspaper will find a lot of things, especially the Russian trace, they always and everywhere, where they do not succeed.
            Quote: krokodil25
            and the Russian learned about the plan for sending special forces.

            If they send it, they’ll definitely not tell the newspaper men hi
            1. Tersky
              Tersky 28 February 2013 07: 37
              +10
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              If they send it, they’ll definitely not tell the newspaper men

              Sasha hi ! News in topic:
              VIENNA, Feb 27 - RIA Novosti, Andrey Zolotov. Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, expressed on Wednesday, speaking at a press conference as part of the fifth world forum of the UN Alliance of Civilizations, solidarity with the Syrian opposition.
              http://news.mail.ru/politics/12154872/ , за что боролся на то и напоролся...
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 28 February 2013 07: 42
                +12
                Quote: Tersky
                for which he fought for it and ran into ..

                I would be surprised if he condemned the acts of terrorists laughing Himself has essentially turned into the leader of terrorists and other frostbite, and that’s supporting subordinates.
            2. VAF
              VAF 28 February 2013 11: 45
              +8
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              British newspaper


              Hi Sasha! News of course on fellow ! but it would be desirable to say so ... in fact and ... not necessarily who. and here’s how. where. under what conditions .... or something. but still a special forces unit and ..... the Syrians ....... something is hard to believe.
              They cannot cope with the "rebels" having a huge advantage in weapons and equipment, but here ...
              although everything in this life happens ...... "snitched". spotted the place of basing or deployment by coordinates and covered it ... even with artillery, at least with aviation ... recourse
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 28 February 2013 11: 50
                +3
                Quote: vaf
                but it would be desirable to say so ... in fact

                Hello, Sergey! So \ .I also want to look at the corpses and even kick on the easy, but no video. What to do, wait for a rebuttal or confirmation. hi
                1. Bashkaus
                  Bashkaus 28 February 2013 18: 05
                  +2
                  You see what the trouble is, if they were covered with 152mm artillery, then they would sweep away the scraps from Alleppo to Domask, and Turkey and Israel would splatter a bit.
                2. Northerner
                  Northerner 1 March 2013 14: 00
                  +11
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  What to do, wait for a refutation or confirmation.


                  Marat Musin on Thu, 28/02/2013 - 21:37 News: topic of War
                  CSR tags
                  geo middle east and maghrib
                  Syria
                  Turkey


                  Confirmation came. As a result of an accurate strike by the Syrian Air Force, 24 elite Turkish special forces from the special forces in special forces detachment of the Turkish General Staff CRS were destroyed. Turkish interventionists were listed as instructors in Syria. In total, the officers' elite detachment of the General Staff of Turkey consisted of 100 specially selected officers. Peace be upon your ashes, greyhound Ottomans. Our insincere condolences to Erdogan and our sincere congratulations to the army and air force of the Syrian Arab Republic.
              2. aksakal
                aksakal 1 March 2013 07: 56
                +4
                Quote: vaf
                They cannot cope with the "rebels" having a huge advantage in weapons and equipment, but here ...

                - little information. So, it’s nice to scratch pride, but seriously - hell knows ...
                The VAF, and for the rest - it seems to me that the same Basayev and his closest associates, but the same Khattab, did not differ much in their tactical and general combat training from the same special forces and therefore were their very difficult goals ... they blew it up, the other one was generally traumatized -))). Although I would prefer that Khattaba from the machine, like a dog that got out of control ...
                And I think that a fairly large number of Syrian "rebels" in terms of training (they say, mercenaries with a long experience in partisan battles) are not inferior to the same Turkish "specialists" who have experience in combat and real special operations - the cat cried, in any case, I'm about them did not hear. I have heard a lot about the Soviet ones, about the Amer ones - especially about the Iranian operation - I have heard a lot, about the Israeli ones - I have heard a lot, about the Turkish ones - not. I am inclined to believe that the most prepared in that Turkish detachment are loud and formidable names such as "kelbeti", "special forces special forces" and something else, but otherwise the training there is so-so.
                I would not neglect the Syrian fighters so much and exaggerate the role of firepower in this kind of hostilities -)))
            3. meandr51
              meandr51 April 1 2020 18: 58
              0
              Russian tracks in their finished form are in the safe.
          2. domokl
            domokl 28 February 2013 08: 20
            +6
            Quote: krokodil25
            Russian learned about the plan for sending special forces.
            Guys, spetsnaz spetsnaz vary ... If Russia sends a unit, it’s only to protect the naval base ... It makes no sense to substitute for us ... Instructors, maybe, but the groups will not be sent for sure
            1. DDR
              DDR 28 February 2013 09: 50
              +5
              But it’s a pity, a little rustle is not in the way. At the same time, they showed how special forces should work
          3. kush62
            kush62 28 February 2013 16: 09
            +6
            The British found our special forces to see the trail of polonium. Sherlock Holmes, Ms. Marple and Poirot distinguished themselves.
        2. Bort radist
          Bort radist 28 February 2013 07: 28
          +10
          Quote: domokl
          And we have nothing to do with it.

          Our advisers laid the foundations in the 70s. Good grains, good soil, and now Syria harvests its own crops.
        3. Sakhalininsk
          Sakhalininsk 28 February 2013 07: 30
          +12
          domokl,

          And don’t say .... KID WELL NOW AND HORRY WITH IT! laughing
        4. Oleg14774
          Oleg14774 28 February 2013 12: 49
          0
          And then! Of course not!
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 28 February 2013 07: 07
        +13
        Quote: esaul
        Who are you competing with, schoolchildren ?!

        Who said they encountered our special forces? Or do you think the Syrians themselves are not capable laughing
        1. crocodile25
          crocodile25 28 February 2013 07: 25
          +4
          And where then do all these sources come from? In the search engine, he just managed to write Russian, and there the Russian special forces in Syria automatically added video in addition.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 28 February 2013 07: 45
            +4
            Quote: krokodil25
            In the search engine, he just managed to write Russian, and there the Russian special forces in Syria automatically added video in addition.

            I tried to dial and nothing like that! The invasion to drive everything in, there is a message from AL Arabia, in fact read from Al Qaeda
      3. Che
        Che 28 February 2013 07: 53
        +15
        a unit of the so-called kelbeti (ghosts) was almost completely destroyed.

        esaul,

        Syria respected that you want people when fighting for independence is capable of much.
      4. Hammer
        Hammer 28 February 2013 08: 56
        +11
        Quote: esaul
        The think-tank did not grow up with the Turkish special forces in order to confront the Russian special forces ... Who are you competing with, schoolchildren ?!


        Well, the "SPECIAL FORCES" patch and the pumped-up biceps still do not make a person an army elite ... wink This must be earned in battles with a real enemy angry and not chasing non-obedient shepherds through the mountains negative

        And in all past history, our Turks at all times sneezed in the tail and mane ... Somehow I see no reason to change anything in the tradition that has developed over centuries. laughing
        1. Professor
          Professor 28 February 2013 09: 00
          -31
          And in all past history, our Turks at all times sneezed in the tail and mane ... Somehow I see no reason to change anything in the tradition that has developed over centuries

          Teach history more carefully, for example, about the city of Kars ...
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 28 February 2013 09: 02
            +20
            Quote: Professor
            Teach history more carefully, for example, about the city of Kars ...

            Professor, the Germans also stood at the walls of Moscow, only the result was ALWAYS the same. With Turkey, the same thing. Apparently Erdogan today thinks the same way as you do.
            1. Professor
              Professor 28 February 2013 09: 12
              -16
              And where is Kars now, is it really not in Turkey? You need to know your story well, very well.
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 28 February 2013 09: 36
                +9
                Quote: Professor
                And where is Kars now, is it really not in Turkey?

                Thank God that Kars is in Turkey! Otherwise, you had absolutely nothing to write. wink
                1. Professor
                  Professor 28 February 2013 09: 43
                  -7
                  Thank God that Kars is in Turkey!

                  I just think that Kars should be in Armenia, nevertheless the facts are stubborn things and Kars Russia has lost like all of western Armenia. request
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 28 February 2013 10: 12
                    +16
                    Quote: Professor
                    nonetheless facts are stubborn thing

                    Professor, it’s not by God, you’re an adult, and you’re suffering nonsense. Bring Kars as a defeat to Russia. Russia took this Kars four times and will need to take it in the fifth. that do not tell people, the Turks in this Kars, as they were raking, they continued to raking lol
                    1. Professor
                      Professor 28 February 2013 12: 20
                      0
                      So do not tell the people, the Turks in this Kars, as they were raking, they continued to raking

                      I watched the Kara Gate with binoculars for more than 10 years and the history of the region was taught us properly. The fact is that both Kars and all western Armenia are in Turkey.
                      1. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 28 February 2013 12: 25
                        +4
                        Quote: Professor
                        The fact is that both Kars and all western Armenia are in Turkey.

                        And what is the meaning of what you wrote about Kars? You want to say Russia lost by defeating the Ottoman Empire. Here I wrote above .....
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Thank God that Kars is in Turkey! Otherwise, you had absolutely nothing to write
                      2. segamegament
                        segamegament 28 February 2013 14: 02
                        +3
                        So far ... is in Turkey.
                      3. Bashkaus
                        Bashkaus 28 February 2013 18: 10
                        +3
                        Judging by the way you were taught to love the homeland from which you joyfully left, for example, I absolutely do not want to know the importance of cognition in history.
                      4. Professor
                        Professor 28 February 2013 19: 51
                        -4
                        Judging by the way you were taught to love the homeland from which you joyfully left, for example, I absolutely do not want to know the importance of cognition in history.

                        First, learn to write the word "Motherland" with a capital letter, and then teach me morality.
                      5. Mironk
                        Mironk 28 February 2013 20: 39
                        -13
                        Professor
                        I have long noticed an interesting tendency - the more zealous "patriot", the more illiterate. Why is it that the proud sons of the Russians, without exception, do not own the "great and mighty", maybe they are sent Cossacks? From Honduras, say, or from Easter Island. How do you like the hypothesis?
                      6. saturn.mmm
                        saturn.mmm 28 February 2013 21: 18
                        +5
                        Quote: MironK
                        Why is it that the proud sons of the Russians, without exception, do not own the "great and mighty", maybe they are sent Cossacks?

                        In Russia, not necessarily, a man is the son of Russians. Bashkirs, Udmurts and many other citizens of Russia are not descendants of the Russians.
                        But the fact that many Russian citizens do not know Russian well is a fact, and this is not a good trend.
                      7. Professor
                        Professor 28 February 2013 21: 32
                        -2
                        I do not adhere to this hypothesis, I think the problem is that they do not notice the essence of the slogans. fool
                      8. Simon
                        Simon April 9 2013 14: 26
                        0
                        Sometimes traitors who have left their homeland are more competent and better at writing than Russian patriots who did not betray Russia.
                      9. Don
                        Don 1 March 2013 13: 16
                        0
                        Quote: Professor
                        The fact is that both Kars and all western Armenia are in Turkey.

                        And when did the Russian Empire claim Western Armenia?
                  2. nnkfrschk
                    nnkfrschk 28 February 2013 10: 25
                    +11
                    Professor, why are you doing clowning? Yes, today Kars is Turkish - but you, in your ignorance, or reckoning on the ignorance of others, what, hinting that Russia LOSED it?
                    It's me about your comment on Hammer's words.
                    And in all past history, our Turks at all times sneezed in the tail and mane ... Somehow I see no reason to change anything in the tradition that has developed over centuries. laughing
                    - you answered
                    Teach history more carefully, for example, about the city of Kars ...
                    - Well, what can I say - study history more thoroughly, I.O. forum clown - Russian politicians Kars surrendered voluntarily, in difficult times for the country. Less to you.
                    1. AlexW
                      AlexW 28 February 2013 22: 03
                      +2
                      nnkfrschk, Some kind of liquid logic. They will also remember about Alaska as an example of Russia's defeat laughing When they have nothing to say to calligraphy, do they assert themselves? Or are they "shekel" letter by letter? Why did the Khazars suddenly jump out? -The command "fas?" Enrolled?
                    2. Mikhail3
                      Mikhail3 5 March 2013 13: 48
                      +1
                      He is paid according to the number of characters. At the same time, they keep an eye out for a dialogue, otherwise shekels ma ...
                  3. segamegament
                    segamegament 28 February 2013 10: 31
                    +7
                    Well, Crimea is no longer Turkey. Well, not Russia, only Turkey has nothing to do with this. But if it were not for the hysterical cries of small-shavens, in 1878, then we would have rested not only in the resorts of the Krasnodar Territory, but also in the resorts of the Constantinople Region!
                2. DDR
                  DDR 28 February 2013 09: 57
                  +7
                  And Shipka is in Bulgaria, not in the Ottoman Empire
              2. neri73-r
                neri73-r 28 February 2013 09: 44
                +10
                We were in the Second World War and in Iran, and that’s why we wanted to pick it up in the beginning, then we refused, we need to take what you can digest !!! Moreover, some offered a throw to Lamans in the 1945th (had a real opportunity), Stalin refused, since they would not have digested !!!
                1. Bashkaus
                  Bashkaus 28 February 2013 18: 13
                  0
                  I want to remind you that Zhukov encouraged the walk to the Channel of Stalin most of all, they say, "let's brush it off in two weeks ..." By the way, it's a historical fact. Stalin refused for several reasons, starting with the fact that we really would not digest, ending with the fact that he did not want a nuclear war, besides, at that time we were lagging behind in this sports discipline.
              3. Lopatov
                Lopatov 28 February 2013 10: 05
                +5
                As a result of the Russian-Turkish wars, Kars became part of the Russian Empire and moved to Turkey under the Brest Peace and the Kars Treaty.
                This cannot be called a victory for Turkish arms. This is the result of the cowardly policy of V.I. Lenin. "Territories in exchange for peace". You know this principle, don't you?
              4. KORESH80
                KORESH80 28 February 2013 10: 07
                +6

                Professor
                And where is Kars now, is it really not in Turkey? You need to know your story well, very well.

                And why the Crimea, the Caucasus, the Balkans and much more that is not part of Turkey? Kars was taken during the siege of Sevastopol by the allies (British-French-Turks), in that war Russia would hardly have won because of the qualitative and quantitative advantage of the enemy. The affiliation of this city has changed many times. The Turks almost always had a numerical superiority and basically they managed to get only a field and a ... wrecked fleet. hi
              5. viruskvartirus
                viruskvartirus 28 February 2013 10: 41
                +2
                History needs to know this correctly ... for a long time you professor was not visible it was boring.
              6. Bashkaus
                Bashkaus 28 February 2013 18: 08
                +3
                Professor, you’re not our breed, we won’t let you UAZ wash you in the Bosphorus near Constantinople!
                1. Mironk
                  Mironk 28 February 2013 20: 49
                  -7
                  Bashkaus
                  The professor needs your dumb UAZ ... He will arrive at our army assembly Hammer of the Israeli assembly!
                  In general, as in the old Soviet song, they sang: "I don't need the Turkish coast and I don't need Africa!"
                  1. Misantrop
                    Misantrop 28 February 2013 21: 24
                    +3
                    Quote: MironK
                    He will arrive at our army assembly Hammer of the Israeli assembly!

                    Sorry. This fucking Hammer eats rubber like a hungry man. And there is a set of rubber on it is not very cheap ... wink
                    1. Simon
                      Simon April 9 2013 14: 30
                      +1
                      So the "Hummers" in Russia were tested in Siberia, they were stuck in our Siberian snows, the "tiger" left it behind.
                  2. Professor
                    Professor 28 February 2013 21: 36
                    0
                    I dare to correct you, in Israel the Hamers are not collected, and in the near future I am not going to Turkey - I was there already, I didn’t like it. sad
                    1. Mironk
                      Mironk 28 February 2013 21: 44
                      +2
                      I thought so, remembering a song about the Turkish coast.
                    2. Mironk
                      Mironk 28 February 2013 22: 12
                      0
                      Professor
                      Since 1995, the IDF has been using M1114 / 1116 NMWV with armor of its own production.
                      1. Professor
                        Professor 28 February 2013 22: 51
                        +1
                        Sas's armor is not an Israeli assembly. The same armor is also put on Oshkosh, but this did not become Israeli at all.
                  3. kirieeleyson
                    kirieeleyson 1 March 2013 00: 05
                    +1
                    Quote: MironK
                    on our Israeli-made army Hammer!

                    You have nothing of your own, as the film says. Neither the Merkava nor the Iron Dome speaks of their own development path. All of these are Soviet developments of the 60-70s, unification with the use of technologies. Even an ordinary armored car - and that is done using US technologies.
                  4. Mikhail3
                    Mikhail3 5 March 2013 13: 54
                    +2
                    Either it doesn’t reach (these hummers look very brutally ... they climb somewhere in the quarter of UAZ passability), or it wouldn’t turn out worse ... Remember the Georgian pokatushki? Our general at the press conference already bit his lips, trying not to laugh. When amers turned with a teardrop - give our hammers! Well, what, think, the Georgians cut through them over the occupied (well, they thought so) territory! And the hummers are very expensive, packed with all kinds of military equipment, give it back !! The general showed restraint, did not gag, but gently explained - we won’t give it back, trophies ...
                2. Frunze
                  Frunze 11 May 2013 20: 18
                  0
                  Moreover, we will probably NOT send for the patrons of the professor .....
          2. Director
            Director 28 February 2013 10: 26
            +1
            And you teach too
          3. viruskvartirus
            viruskvartirus 28 February 2013 10: 34
            +8
            Is that what you mean? “As a result, in 1878, after another, this time an eight-month war, Kars, together with the surrounding regions, went to the Russian Empire and remained a Russian outpost until 1921, when, according to the Treaty of Kars, the rulers of the young Soviet republic, yielding to the request of Ataturk, the founder of the present Turkish Republic, the city and the region of Turkey were returned again. It was during these half centuries that the city belonged to the Russian Empire, and it acquired its characteristic appearance, so clearly distinguishing it from other Turkish cities. "
            1. Professor
              Professor 28 February 2013 12: 21
              -5
              Remembering the Kars treaty, one can not forget to forget the Moskovsky and Alexandropol treaties.
              1. ultra
                ultra 28 February 2013 16: 16
                +7
                Quote: Professor
                glad to forget both the Moscow and Alexandropol treaties.

                There are no words dilettante Your middle name! What does the Treaty of Alexandropol have to do with Russia! This is the treaty between ARMENIA and TURKEY, it summed up the Armenian-Turkish war, I won't even talk about the Moscow war! lol
              2. Don
                Don 1 March 2013 13: 24
                +2
                Quote: Professor
                Remembering the Kars treaty, one can not forget to forget the Moskovsky and Alexandropol treaties.

                Or maybe just remember that out of 12 Russo-Turkish wars, 7 were won by Russia, 2 by Turkey and 3 by an uncertain result. Despite the fact that the war of 1735-1739 can be attributed to the victory of Russia, because Azov and Zaporozhye were returned to Russia, and in World War I Turkey only suffered defeats from Russia, they also lost to the Crimea if they were to Great Britain and France.
              3. garik404
                garik404 2 March 2013 02: 05
                +4
                "and we were taught the history of the region properly."
                Well, you see, you were taught the wrong story ...
          4. Rink
            Rink 28 February 2013 11: 33
            +5
            Quote: Professor
            .... for example, about the city of Kars ...

            Is that all that comes to your mind?
            Do you want to remember Ishmael? or the Azov seat? or how, from light Cossack gulls, Cossack donors launched the color of the Turkish fleet to the bottom of the Black Sea when it was at the peak of power? Can you imagine multi-gun ships against fragile little boats? The fleet that dominated the Mediterranean Sea against the Cossacks is such a shame!

            We teach history, of course.
            There are no wars without tactical defeats; we also had separate lost operations. But in general, the result is not in favor of the Ottomans (neither then nor now), but this is the main indicator.
          5. pogis
            pogis 28 February 2013 14: 05
            +2
            Do you know your own? For example, about the tragedy of 13 Shayet in Lebanon! Underestimating the enemy always, always leads to grave consequences!
          6. ultra
            ultra 28 February 2013 15: 23
            +3
            Quote: Professor
            Teach history more carefully, for example, about the city of Kars.

            You are not a "professor" but a dilettante from history, teach yourself first before you write nonsense! During the Crimean War, Kars was occupied by Russian troops, but according to the "Paris Peace Treaty" he was exchanged for Sevastopol! As a result of the Russian-Turkish War of 1877-1878 Russia joined Kars, Ardahan and Batum! Kars was lost in the First World War in the company of 1917, when the Russian actually ceased to exist! And in the company of 1916, the Russian army captured the cities of Erzurum, Trebizond, Van, Bitlis, Erzind
            1. AlexW
              AlexW 28 February 2013 22: 14
              +4
              ultraDo not strain ... they have a real story to one place .. If the facts do not suit them they distort them - a well-known liquid trick.
            2. garik404
              garik404 2 March 2013 01: 55
              +2
              What "professor" is an amateur ???
              Reading his comments, one gets the impression that on this site he acts on the principle shown in the picture ...
              1. ZhuDkiyDrugg
                ZhuDkiyDrugg 1 May 2013 11: 32
                0
                For the point good I got the same impression, he manages to "check in" everywhere belay
      5. Samurai
        Samurai 28 February 2013 09: 19
        +1
        And where does the Russian special forces? request
      6. Vanya
        Vanya 28 February 2013 20: 06
        +3
        an army that continuously fights for two years, the whole becomes special forces
      7. Sandov
        Sandov 28 February 2013 20: 37
        +2
        esaul,
        Here is the news so the news! Syria respect. Now the main thing is not to allow amers to get in under any pretext. Go Russia.
      8. wind255
        wind255 April 11 2013 22: 44
        0
        It’s good to be a child and think that war is like a sporting event or a football match.
    2. Logs
      Logs 28 February 2013 11: 23
      0
      Do not poke your nose anywhere, they can tear smile
    3. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 28 February 2013 15: 21
      +4
      Well, that the Turkish side helps advisers and training bases, and also helps in the transfer of weapons has long been known. Also spotted special forces in the fight against the Kurds.




      Turkish planes raid Iraqi Kurdistan



      Turkish military aviation bombed seven sites of the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) in northern Iraq. In the immediate vicinity of the Turkish border, shelters were destroyed and it is possible that the PKK manpower is also destroyed.

      In the fall, the Turkish Air Force carried out massive attacks on the militant camps of the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) in northern Iraq, bombing anti-aircraft batteries, shelters and separatist infrastructure. The operation was carried out by F-16 fighter-bombers of the Second Tactical Command of the Turkish Air Force, deployed at a base in the province of Diyarbakir.

      Meanwhile, the leader of the Kurdish Workers Party (PKK) Abdullah Ocalan, who is in prison on an island near Istanbul, was optimistic about negotiations with Turkish officials that have been ongoing since December last year. According to him, we are talking about a historic step.

      He called on both sides to show the necessary attention and delicacy. An agreement to end the armed clashes in March of this year was reached during the last round of negotiations with Ocalan, online media reported citing NTV.

      According to the plan, PKK militants will lay down their arms in exchange for granting broader rights to the Kurdish minority, the release of activists sent to prison on charges of having ties to the PKK, and also for securing the principle of the identity of the Kurdish nation in the country's new constitution ...
      1. ayyildiz
        ayyildiz 28 February 2013 21: 51
        0
        Quote: Sith Lord

        Well, that the Turkish side helps advisers and training bases, and also helps in the transfer of weapons has long been known. Also spotted special forces in the fight against the Kurds


        In the first photo, the deceased, died in a car accident in Afghanistan!
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 28 February 2013 22: 05
          +1
          Yes, I know.
          For the second four who died there from a mortar attack.

          List of dead Turkish soldiers in Afghanistan

          3-16-2012 Melikoglu, Okan 1st Lieutenant
          3-16-2012 Barutçu, Tahsin 1st Lieutenant (pilot)
          3-16-2012 Aydin, Ilker Captain
          3-16-2012 Vurucu, Önay Specialized Sergeant
          3-16-2012 Akbas, Mehmet Command Sergeant Major
          3-16-2012 Helvaci, Salih Command Sergeant Major
          3-16-2012 Erdogan, Adil Captain (pilot)
          3-16-2012 Yakinlar, Ismail Cem Major
          3-16-2012 Dogan, Serkan Major
          3-16-2012 Yildiz, Murat Lieutenant
          3-16-2012 Çolak, Mithat Cartographer Major
          3-16-2012 Bagdatli, Sükür Air Major
          7-14-2009 Sungur, Faruk Albay Colonel
          7-14-2009 Mevlüt, Baydur Uzman çavus (specialist sergeant)
  2. tronin.maxim
    tronin.maxim 28 February 2013 06: 53
    +15
    According to some reports, the unit of the so-called kelbeti (ghosts) was almost completely destroyed. Surely STELS TECHNOLOGY WORK BAD IN THEM! laughing
    1. esaul
      esaul 28 February 2013 06: 55
      +7
      Quote: tronin.maxim
      Surely STELS TECHNOLOGY WORK BAD IN THEM!

      No, probably they were instructed by American instructors ... Saakashvili’s victories in 080808 turned their heads to them.
      Greetings, Maxim hi
    2. alexng
      alexng 28 February 2013 08: 03
      +15
      There, the Turks did not have STELS technology, but morons mudatology. Somewhere like that. Syrian army respect.
      1. Hammer
        Hammer 28 February 2013 08: 59
        +7
        Quote: alexneg
        ... Syrian army respect.


        And our instructors are the same. wink laughing
    3. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 5 March 2013 14: 08
      0
      It's just that the camouflage technique they have is the most American. The textbook in a popular form in the particleboard for our citizens reads: well, Petka, can you see me? Not Vasil Ivanovich, I don’t see. Well we disguised ourselves!
      Another American shooter was recently tied here, remember? A policeman. Duc he was also terribly prepared, according to all the American methodology. First I climbed into the yacht ... the engine could not start !! And they took him in someone's forest house, where he was "hiding", well, damn it, there is nowhere to go further. Still, the sheriff's in the barn calmed down, the stunted ranger. Looks like a bird by flight and American training by results. And best of all - by the name, "formidable" and stupid.
  3. domokl
    domokl 28 February 2013 06: 53
    +11
    And there is a bitch to the old woman ... The Turks must understand (and how they did not convince me to understand) that the Syrian army is not a bunch of bandits, namely the army ... And it is able to fight even with the elite ...
  4. Abwehr
    Abwehr 28 February 2013 06: 54
    -19
    Where When? facts in the studio
    1. Vanek
      Vanek 28 February 2013 07: 03
      +11
      Quote: Abwehr
      Where When? facts in the studio


      You look at your nickname and please us with facts, where and when.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 28 February 2013 07: 05
      +9
      Quote: Abwehr
      Where?

      In Syria.
      Quote: Abwehr
      When?

      Message from the 27th.
      Quote: Abwehr
      facts to the studio

      This is to Erdogan.
    3. Tjumenec72
      Tjumenec72 28 February 2013 07: 09
      +2
      Sorry we do not have their bodies)
    4. Tersky
      Tersky 28 February 2013 07: 40
      +12
      Quote: Abwehr
      facts to the studio

      Studio address can not be called? Accidentally Not This -Berlin, 72-76 Tirpitz-Ufer Street, Abwehr Headquarters?
    5. skullcap
      skullcap 28 February 2013 09: 20
      +10
      Quote: Abwehr
      Where When? facts in the studio

      Another ghost drew.
      The Abwehr, like Hitler, is kaput in the 45 year.
      So sit in your crypt and don't climb out anymore. Do not disturb the positive course of history.
  5. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 28 February 2013 06: 56
    +5
    That's a shame. The guys went out for a walk and they were so inhospitable to meet them, well, think they came with machine guns and rifles, maybe they are hunters?
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 28 February 2013 08: 24
      +4
      Quote: vladsolo56
      maybe they are hunters?

      No, they are wild.
    2. Bort radist
      Bort radist 28 February 2013 11: 58
      0
      Quote: vladsolo56
      That's a shame. Guys went out for a walk

      They decided to test the Russian GLONASS system using the GROT-M device, they did not leave their territory. Last readings from the device: question - Where did you take us? Answer - Go to point XY .... laughing
    3. Bashkaus
      Bashkaus 28 February 2013 18: 20
      0
      Yes, they just don’t have any dust, I won’t forget how a couple of years ago, during a training landing out of 100 American G-Ijs, 4 palms died suddenly, okay, my legs would be broken, a solid gun and full body burns)))
  6. fenix57
    fenix57 28 February 2013 07: 07
    +10
    Probably they performed namaz. hi
  7. SCS
    SCS 28 February 2013 07: 09
    +2
    and by whom was destroyed and under what circumstances ...? I guess esaul is right yes
  8. predator.3
    predator.3 28 February 2013 07: 26
    +8
    TURKISH GENERAL STAFF SWAT TEAM

    The detachment, better known as the "Burgundy Berets", was created in 1952 when Turkey joined NATO. Also, a Special Mobilization Tactical Group (STK) was created in the country, which included detachments intended to create a partisan movement and conduct sabotage in the event of an attack by the USSR. Moreover, the group was supposed to operate not only on the territory of the country, but also abroad. General Ilmaz, one of the commanders of the detachment, at one time admitted this fact.

    Soon, some of the fighters were sent to Korea. At the same time, the Turkish military turned to the Americans for help, and they sent instructors from the 10th group of "green berets" to Turkey under the leadership of an experienced officer, Captain Steve Snowden. "Berets" were in Turkey for a long time and managed to train about 300 sergeants and officers. The emphasis was on special landing, light diving training and the ability to work in small teams. In 1965, changes took place, and the STK was renamed the Department of Special Warfare (OND) with direct subordination to the General Staff. Another name for the department is the command of special forces or the department of operations. All this time, the training of special forces units for armies and districts continued, but only one, most prepared detachment was subordinate to the department itself.

    Since the creation of the special forces of the General Staff took part in operations in Cyprus (1974) and in a number of liquidations of Kurdish leaders, including in Europe. During the invasion of Cyprus, special forces conducted reconnaissance and captured several key positions during the landing of the Turkish army. In the mid-80s, OHD published a textbook on counter-guerrilla actions. It was released for internal army use and was created on the basis of the experience of special forces in the fight against the Kurds.

    From 1985 to this day, special forces of the General Staff of Turkey has been almost continuously involved in special operations in Turkey, Iraq and Syria.

    TASKS AND STRUCTURE

    The General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Turkey sets the squad with the task of conducting special reconnaissance on the territory of a potential enemy, conducting sabotage at enemy targets, seizing strategic targets, destroying enemy political and military figures, conducting operations against terrorists, training military specialists of friendly countries, and organizing partisan movements in in case of war, the creation of agents.

    There is very little information about the exact structure of the special forces of the General Staff. It is known that the squad is divided into several groups, which, in turn, are divided into teams "A" and "B". Teams "A" are staffed exclusively by officers. The "B" teams include officers and contract soldiers. The minimum combat units conducting patrolling, observation and reconnaissance are "twos" and "threes". Larger units - "fives" and "sevens" - are used for reconnaissance in the mountains. The largest units are "ten" and "dozen". During assault operations, combat units can be combined into groups. This was the case in Afghanistan and individual pinpoint operations. Armament also depends on the task assigned to the special forces.

    The detachment has, so to speak, "special forces in special forces." We are talking about a unit numbering about 100 fighters. Its official name is "Combat Search and Rescue" (CSR). According to experts, this is a special unit, which includes only officers who have completed additional courses. Any CSR fighter must be able to operate both on land and under water. Moreover, each squad has fighters experienced in handling helicopters and airplanes. "This is a kind of mixture of delta force, green berets and seals," experts say.
    http://trueinform.ru/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=12080
    1. Che
      Che 28 February 2013 08: 04
      +12
      predator.3,
      To fill up such - Respect to the Syrians, who said that the Arabs are not trained. Need made - the mountains will be demolished.
      1. Artmark
        Artmark 28 February 2013 18: 40
        +4
        Good evening ! I think the Russian special forces there participated only in the form of instructors and this is enough. So that everyone knows and does not rock the boat! soldier
        1. Frunze
          Frunze 11 May 2013 22: 05
          0
          Quote: ArtMark
          Good evening ! I think the Russian special forces there participated only in the form of instructors and this is enough. So that everyone knows and does not rock the boat! soldier

          Good evening, do not hesitate, our specialists. operatives there, in Syria, now unfortunately have chic access to meat (militants), collect a collection of videos, like jacketing their pools on the floor, jackals betray each other, find young revolutionaries (they understood everything, but already late), from decent families (saving them for mothers), etc., in general, they pull on our thin steel cobweb, patching holes of the past dark years bully
  9. Billy Bones
    Billy Bones 28 February 2013 07: 29
    +6
    Honestly, I would like specifics. And then it turns out the news of the OBS - one grandmother said.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 28 February 2013 07: 53
      +8
      Quote: Billy Bones
      Honestly, I would like specifics.

      There will be a video and the next day Erdogan will scream to the whole world that Turkish special forces in Syria were saving babies from Assad soldiers. They buried them in a quiet way and there they didn’t call them to Syria. Although they transmit ANNA news, maybe later they will post the video
      1. Siberian
        Siberian 28 February 2013 08: 06
        -7
        duck it all ... people hawala that wants to catch on .... until there is evidence it is not worth believing ...
        1. DDR
          DDR 28 February 2013 10: 24
          +2
          Have you seen a lot of videos about the losses of special forces? Such information is not posted to YouTube, it is classified.
          1. Corsair
            Corsair 28 February 2013 22: 56
            +4
            Special Forces / NOT / Special Forces, what's the difference? They raked because they didn’t tuck into their monastery. And rightly so.
        2. Ascetic
          Ascetic 28 February 2013 21: 41
          +11
          Quote: SIBERIAN
          duck it all ... people hawala that wants to catch on .... until there is evidence it is not worth believing ...


          Confirmation has arrived. As a result of an accurate strike by the Syrian Air Force, 24 elite Turkish special forces from the special forces in special forces detachment of the Turkish General Staff CRS were destroyed. Turkish interventionists were listed as instructors in Syria. In total, the officer elite detachment of the General Staff of Turkey totaled 100 specially selected officers. Peace be upon you, greyhounds of the Ottomans. Our sincere condolences to Erdogan and our sincere congratulations to the army and air force of the Syrian Arab Republic. Russian intelligence too.

          My webpage
        3. atalef
          atalef 28 February 2013 21: 46
          -3
          Siberian,
          Ascetic, where is the confirmation link?
          1. Mironk
            Mironk 28 February 2013 23: 00
            -5
            The ANNA link provided by Ascetic is not a credible source. But the point is not even whether the Turkish special forces were destroyed by an air strike, or we have another duck. In principle, no one is guaranteed against the most unexpected options; in war everything happens. I am personally surprised by the joy of many site visitors about this not entirely clear event. You might think that the victory is already in Assad’s hands. People do not want to see the obvious - the fluffy northern animal, which has crept up, well, very close to the Alavite dictator.
            1. Rink
              Rink 1 March 2013 02: 10
              +7
              Mironk, this very little animal is gradually getting to the star of David and to the mattresses - your proteges, only you do not want to see this obvious ...
              But nothing comes closer, you see ...
              And from your "dictator" you should learn both courage and honesty.
              1. Rink
                Rink 2 March 2013 03: 04
                +1
                Quote: Skating rink
                .... this little animal is gradually getting closer to the star of David ...


                For example, about the threat Israeli Civil War writes Professor James Petras of Global Research. Read more in Russian here http://mixednews.ru/archives/32083 (there is also a link to the original article).
                1. Mironk
                  Mironk 2 March 2013 10: 19
                  -4
                  Rink
                  You are trying to wishful thinking. The article about the likelihood of a civil war in Israel, to which you link, is a complete mess, has nothing to do with reality. Here is your yellow - black power on the verge of collapse - it is a fact!
                  1. Papakiko
                    Papakiko 2 March 2013 13: 03
                    +3
                    Mironk
                    Miron Kaprov
                    You, as I see, are the usual antisemit! This is necessary - the Jews had a hand in the baptism of Russia - complete nonsense.
                    I’m calm lad, but in person, I would fuck you talk with complete pleasure, take my word for it, you are a pagan roomy!
                    But in general, your people are dying out, you are becoming less and less every year, so the time is not far off when there will be no Russians in the world. Goodbye !


                    This is from my "personal" message from this "subject"
                    "Children of Israel" are counting the days until our sudden "departure" from this reality to the "parallel" one.
                    1. Rink
                      Rink 2 March 2013 14: 43
                      0
                      Quote: Papakiko
                      This is from my "personal" message from this "subject"
                      "Children of Israel" are counting the days until our sudden "departure" from this reality to the "parallel" one.

                      Actually, with such and such shoulder straps, I don't know why these propagandists of the Zionist ideology are not still banned. I think that these "ideological fighters" have nothing to do at such forums - let them go to work for Echo of Moscow, in their reserve. The administration of the forum could treat these "political instructors in the service" more harshly, there is nothing to do to indulge the information soldiers of the enemy.

                      And you, Papakiko, in my opinion it makes sense to contact the forum administration about this message in PM.
            2. vladsolo56
              vladsolo56 1 March 2013 06: 37
              +2
              I wonder why you are a young man, so you bake for the Turks, are they brothers to you? Well, it’s understandable that you fought with Assad, but who didn’t fight with anyone, Russia fought with the Germans, so now hate them until the end of the century.
              But Turkey will betray and sell you, no doubt about that. Better to have a clear enemy than a dastardly "friend"
            3. Don
              Don 1 March 2013 13: 27
              +1
              Quote: MironK
              People do not want to see the obvious - the fluffy northern animal, which has crept up, well, very close to the Alavite dictator.

              laughing The sons of Israel do not want to see that Assad holds on and will hold on for a long time, without direct intervention from outside. And we have heard your tales about animals for more than a year.
            4. Serush
              Serush 4 March 2013 17: 48
              +1
              Well, YOU, with a white and blue flag, where ?!
              After Assad ("if-what"), "bearded" will come to you ...
      2. atalef
        atalef 28 February 2013 09: 11
        -3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        They buried him in a quiet place and there they should pay their respects. Nobody called them to Syria. Although ANNA News reports, maybe later they will post the video

        Alexander, well, honestly. Soaked - would show.
        What is the point of reporting the news and not confirming with facts (photos)
        No need to seek conspiracy where it does not exist.
        All these things remind me of the situation with Chavez - the authorities report that his condition is improving, but for some reason they are not showing.
        If you want to prove it, show me the pictures, beat Erdogan to the wall and let him spin later. All these messages remind Ms. Gromova’s opus about Assad’s endless victories, while SSA is sitting in Damascus (and other large cities) like that. Turkish special forces were defeated, but they cannot? I do not believe laughing
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 28 February 2013 09: 35
          +11
          Quote: atalef
          All these messages remind Ms. Gromova’s opus about Assad’s endless victories,

          If these victories were not there, Damassk would have fallen for a long time !!!
          1. Petrospek
            Petrospek 28 February 2013 11: 08
            0
            Here I am inclined to agree with atalef, a very strange situation, the loss is reported not by the Syrian military, who should report this around the world, but by some kind of inform - an agency. Or did the Syrians bang someone, and they themselves did not understand whom? And then, if almost all of them were killed, then at least one body should have been ...
        2. neri73-r
          neri73-r 28 February 2013 10: 00
          0
          It’s not so simple, politics, do you know !!! Show how they fixed it, Turkey can harness it, and it’s profitable for everyone - for the Turks (Erdogan, we must answer to the citizens of our country) we don’t participate, for Assad we didn’t kill !!!
          1. Bort radist
            Bort radist 28 February 2013 12: 03
            +2
            Quote: neri73-r
            Show me how they were fixed, Turkey can harness herself,

            That's right, after all, special forces could have been specially killed for death, POLITICS.
            1. atalef
              atalef 28 February 2013 23: 06
              +1
              Quote: Bort Radist
              That's right, after all, special forces could have been specially killed for death, POLITICS.

              And to hell with the special forces thrown to death? Yes, even so stupid?
        3. Rink
          Rink 1 March 2013 02: 20
          +3
          Quote: atalef
          ... I do not believe

          Why ?!
          What, the Syrians did not catch the French legionnaires and did not change back to the West, or what? But the Belgians were not wet there? How are the Turks radically different?
          The truth is on the side of the Syrians, they are fighting for their homeland, not that this rabble from all over the world, which is there wielding against all international laws - they just kill children and women for loot.
          And this moral superiority cannot but affect the battle.
        4. pogis
          pogis 1 March 2013 11: 35
          +1
          Confirmation requires territorial control. And after the bombing of an uncontrolled area, what confirmation can there be? Only a direct refutation of the Turkish authorities! And Israel’s position in the Syrian conflict reeks of suicide! If the militants win, then Israel will receive the 2 front!
          1. Hammer
            Hammer 4 March 2013 04: 54
            +3
            Quote: pogis
            ...! And the position of Israel in the Syrian conflict smacks of suicide! If the militants win, then Israel gets a 2nd front!


            Exactly said! Tel Aviv is so overwhelmed by its military "coolness" that it is deliberately heating up the situation in the region around it. Netanyahu just sleeps and sees himself as Napoleon, or Alexander the great ... The new conqueror of the Middle East. A new mission, a gatherer of the Jewish lands, promised by God! The creator of the great Germany Israel from the Nile to the Euphrates! laughing
            Only does not understand one truth, old as the world - "Evil devours itself!" With us Russians it sounds like this - "what you sow, you reap!"
            Time, it will put everything in its place, not to regret later on the dear gentlemen of the Jews ... the United States will not always protect you, but what would you do without them? Just another spot on the world map ...
        5. Hammer
          Hammer 4 March 2013 04: 35
          +3
          Quote: atalef
          Alexander, well, honestly. Soaked - would show.
          What is the point of reporting the news and not confirming with facts (photos)
          No need to seek conspiracy where it does not exist.
          All these things remind me of the situation with Chavez - the authorities report that his condition is improving, but for some reason they are not showing.
          If you want to prove it, show me the pictures, beat Erdogan to the wall and let him spin later. All these messages remind Ms. Gromova’s opus about Assad’s endless victories, while SSA is sitting in Damascus (and other large cities) like that. Turkish special forces were defeated, but they cannot? Don't believe laughing

          And what respects you dear in this situation? Why on earth should Erdogan declare in all hearings about the death of his elite? As I understand it, the info about the death of CSR did not come from Erdogan, so why would he confirm it, and even with photos. Note the official denials of the same, something is not heard ... Yes, and in most countries they do not really like to talk about their non-successes. That's when the datoshi journalists will tidy up with incontrovertible facts, then it is possible that they will issue an official press release.
          And Ms. Gromova, you would be careful to run into. You were not there in Damascus, not in Aleppo, was not. And she was and saw what was happening there, and she was talking about that.
          SSA is a loose concept ... these are alkaid mercenaries (they are chased there with pissing brooms - Gromova was talking about them), and there are local traitors who buried the machine gun and it is already "peaceful". And the army does not touch the civilian population, so that all sorts of al-zhazirs would not be angry there ...
          So the SSA in the cities is in the form of groups of local rascals, but the mercenaries from the SSA (which represent the main fighting force of the SSA) are sneezing in the tail and mane.
          But you are distorting, and you are well aware of this. The Syrian army (and people) are fighting not so much with the SSA scum as with the support of Western countries and Israel as well. And here it is very difficult for one small country to resist everyone. You perfectly understand this, as well as you perfectly understand that were it not for the desire of the West to overthrow Assad, there would be no FSA itself as a concept. So don't juggle with words. It is true that it is visible, even under a thick layer of that ... ram, which pours out "free" Western media on Syria.
          1. Kaa
            Kaa 4 March 2013 05: 03
            0
            Quote: Hammer
            Note the official denials of the same something is not heard ..

            "ANKARA, February 27. In Syria, the" special forces "of Turkey - the elite officer squad Combat Search and Rescue" (CSR), suffered irreparable losses. According to some reports, the division of the so-called kelbeti (ghosts) was almost completely destroyed.
            Read more: http://www.rosbalt.ru/main/2013/02/27/1099531.html
          2. Yarbay
            Yarbay 31 July 2013 19: 53
            0
            Quote: Hammer
            And what respects you dear in this situation? Why on earth should Erdogan declare in all hearings about the death of his elite?

            Just because it is so customary in Turkey !!
            The death of more than one soldier or officer cannot be hidden in Turkey!
            There, people are proud of their army and one of the * awards * to the soldier is the honors with which they are taken to the last journey !!
            In Turkey, no one will let anyone hide the death of more than one soldier !!!
            No one can hide the death of military officers!
            Therefore, this is a lie of Musin sources!



            So this is obvious DISINFORMATION !!
  10. MRomanovich
    MRomanovich 28 February 2013 07: 39
    +2
    Quote: Billy Bones
    Honestly, I would like specifics

    I am joining. Passion is so interesting, who and how has dealt with burgundy, I just want to say not with berets, but with diapers.
    1. Rink
      Rink 1 March 2013 02: 13
      +1
      Quote: MRomanovich
      I am joining. Passion is so interesting, who and how has dealt with burgundy, I just want to say not with berets, but with diapers.

      The time will come - they will tell.
      Destruction of such a special forces detachment is not an easy operation, there is certainly not everything worth disclosing for the time being.
      1. Rink
        Rink 2 March 2013 14: 48
        +3
        Quote: Skating rink
        The time will come - they will tell.
        Destruction of such a special forces detachment is not an easy operation, there is certainly not everything worth disclosing for the time being.

        Little by little, refinements come.
        For example, such related information:

        ... The Syrian authorities for more than six months monitored the actions of Turkish and French intelligence aimed at overthrowing the regime in Syria, and after their failure, to organize the assassination of the president and foreign minister of the country.

        The secret services of France and Turkey created a unified headquarters to achieve this goal, which was also attended by intelligence officers from the United States, Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

        French and Turkish intelligence agents recruited employees in some Syrian government agencies, in particular, in the offices of the president and foreign minister. ...


        Source http://www.fondsk.ru/news/2013/03/02/plan-ustranenia-asada-0203-19368.html

        Counterintelligence works. Grazed for the time being, and when the situation developed to the right - eliminated.
        Syrians well done! Respect!
  11. Son
    Son 28 February 2013 08: 00
    0
    INFA, more like an option - "One grandmother said ...".
  12. embryo
    embryo 28 February 2013 08: 00
    +2
    Syrians well done! I would like to know who and how.
  13. Ragnarek
    Ragnarek 28 February 2013 08: 01
    +1
    there is no official confirmation from either the Turks or the Syrians. while I regard it as a duck
    1. Rink
      Rink 2 March 2013 00: 43
      +2
      Quote: Ragnarek
      there is no official confirmation from either the Turks or the Syrians. while I regard it as a duck

      Yeah ...
      Right now, the Turks officially admit that not only did their special forces operate on the territory of a sovereign state with which Turkey is not at war, but also their "special forces special forces" slapped there like puppies. How!

      Are you really so naive?
      Remember, even when the Syrians caught the French commandos (a confirmed fact, they exchanged them later) - and then they did not immediately say this in the press.

      Understand this is not a live show, this is war.
  14. Volkhov
    Volkhov 28 February 2013 08: 10
    0
    There are 100 people in the detachment, and they act in groups of 3 to 12, that is, they could not lose more than a group. In Syria, with mines up to a ton, it could simply not be lucky, but there are no details.
  15. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 28 February 2013 08: 13
    +10
    The combat experience gained by the Syrian army over several years of fighting with scum of various stripes is not a pound of raisins for you. Yes, the instructors, it seems, were no match for the Turkish special forces being trained. As a rule, you won’t get official confirmations and details in such cases. The Turks will keep silent because there is no shame, the Syrians will not spread so as not to reveal their tactics, and what intimate details may be.
    In any case, we should wish the Syrians success in the fight against international terrorism, led and directed from the shores of the Potomac
    1. atalef
      atalef 28 February 2013 09: 15
      -13
      Quote: lewerlin53rus
      The combat experience gained by the Syrian army over several years of struggle with scum of various stripes is not a pound of raisins for you.

      The entire Syrian Army + security services more than 500 people and for more than 2 years can not do anything with * a gang of foreign mercenaries *.
      Quote: lewerlin53rus
      Syrians will not spread, so as not to reveal tactics, and what intimate details may be.

      Tactics laughing ? On photographs (at least minimal) - you will reveal tactics.?
      Do not wishful thinking that the news would not turn into a semblance of an Iranian monkey astronaut.
      1. nnkfrschk
        nnkfrschk 28 February 2013 10: 28
        +3
        The entire Syrian Army + security services of more than 500t people and for more than 2 years can not do anything with a * gang of foreign mercenaries
        - why are you clowning? Do you know the difference between "can't do" and "can't find"? In addition, these gangs are constantly fed from the outside, including by personnel.
        1. atalef
          atalef 28 February 2013 12: 22
          -12
          ]
          Quote: nnkfrschk
          Do you know the difference between "can't do" and "can't find"?

          A guy of some kind, 20-ty tongue

          Quote: nnkfrschk
          In addition - these gangs are constantly fueled from the outside, including by personnel.

          From the inside
      2. lewerlin53rus
        lewerlin53rus 28 February 2013 19: 42
        +4
        Quote: atalef
        Do not wishful thinking

        This is your regular activity. If the gangs of mercenaries were not fed by the money of the USA and Arab caliphs, And not the indulgence of the Turkish authorities with the supply of weapons and manpower, the Syrians would have put things in order for a long time.
        Quote: atalef
        Tactics? From photographs (even minimal ones) - will you reveal tactics?

        Have you seen a lot of photos from special operations, well, at least with the elimination of Ben-incense by the Americans?
        1. atalef
          atalef 28 February 2013 23: 12
          -5
          Quote: lewerlin53rus
          If the gangs of mercenaries were not fed by the money of the USA and Arab caliphs, And not the indulgence of the Turkish authorities to the supply of weapons and manpower,

          Yes, and would still be tied hand and foot

          Quote: lewerlin53rus
          Syrians would have put things in order for a long time

          \ Who would doubt that.
          Just what kind of army is this, if during 2's. 500t military personnel, but with all the equipment in their territory can not bring order?

          Quote: lewerlin53rus
          Have you seen a lot of photos from special operations, well, at least with the elimination of Ben-incense by the Americans?

          And what does it have to do with it? Musin saw ----- and that's it? No photographs or evidence (except Musin himself) of anyone. And how did Musin get there? You guessed it or someone called him? And if you showed Musin, why only him and no one else? Why they told (it’s understandable for the purpose that he would cover this fact), but they didn’t give photographs and, on the contrary, they began to hush up laughing
          Bullshit is everything - OBS
          1. Ascetic
            Ascetic 28 February 2013 23: 32
            +3
            Quote: atalef
            And what does it have to do with it? Musin saw ----- and that's it?


            He did not see Musin now in Russia, or rather, in Moscow. Confirmation through alumni of the WDA working in Syria. Musin has connections there, like a teacher.
          2. Billy Bones
            Billy Bones 1 March 2013 04: 58
            0
            [quote] [Just what kind of army is this, if for 2 years. 500t. Of military personnel, but with all the equipment in their territory, they cannot put things in order?
            / Quote]

            And what is this country that the Palestinians have been shelling for 30 years and which can’t do anything with them?
          3. Sandov
            Sandov 1 March 2013 20: 23
            0
            Alexander, and you have no doubt, you believe in it. Good increases good. So it will be better for all of us in this world.
          4. Mikhail3
            Mikhail3 5 March 2013 18: 20
            +1
            Who there "saw" the elimination of Bin Laden? No pictures - all lies! What else is there? Sportsmen killed in Munich? Photos are fuzzy and old! Where are the witnesses? Everyone lies! Explosions in Tel Aviv? Netanyahu set up, personally planted bombs ... The coolest troll? Do not wake up dashing while it is quiet ...
      3. Bekzat
        Bekzat 1 March 2013 10: 55
        +2
        For Atalef, as far as I imagine, this gang of mercenaries has very good support, both financially and in intelligence, plus the supply of weapons and ammunition, plus a large number of scum flowing from around the world who are ready to kill children, students, for nothing innocent people. Their (gang of scum) is well funded by both the us and the geyevropa.
      4. Rink
        Rink 2 March 2013 15: 07
        +3
        Quote: atalef
        The entire Syrian Army + security services more than 500 people and for more than 2 years can not do anything with * a gang of foreign mercenaries *.

        Your entire Jewish brotherhood, armed with America, the most militarized state of the East, still cannot do anything with a handful of Palestinian partisans for decades. So there's nothing to fuss look better in the mirror - you’ll be horrified.

        Crying that the Germans have arranged genocide for you, speculating in the Holocaust .. But what are you doing with the Arab population? Israel must be tried for a long time for crimes against humanityhave already typed more than enough. You are not ashamed of torture in Israeli prisons, are you our moralizer? What, after Arafat Jaradat, who died from torture in prison, you are not going to burn out of shame? This is how all civilized countries should act, how do your shoulder masters from Shin Bet act?
        I think it’s time for the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs to make a compilation of facts, and apply this material to the international court and the UN. The states burst, their navel was unloaded from the strain - it's time for them to insert a bone across their throats.
        And Israel, Uncle Sam’s pocket dog, provided a wealth of material for this.

        Your time will come, guys, oh come .... Answer for your deeds, remember and be afraid!
        Russia you - Israel - in 1947 gave birth, Russia and eliminates you.
        Squeeze out like a purulent pimple ...


        PS Even Erdogan is now distancing himself from the Jews:
        Turkish Prime Minister Tayyep Recep Erdogan delivered an anti-Israel tirade at the UN conference in Vienna. Erdogan's speech was dedicated to the fight against "Islamophobia" in Europe. The Turkish leader is sure that the governments of the continent's countries are not doing enough to eradicate this shameful phenomenon. Erdogan stated: "Just like Zionism, anti-Semitism, and fascism, Islamophobia should be considered a crime against humanity."
    2. Bekzat
      Bekzat 1 March 2013 10: 49
      0
      Greetings to all, the most adequate comment, + Dear !!!
  16. pinecone
    pinecone 28 February 2013 08: 16
    +3
    The Abkhazian source ANNA-news does not deserve trust. The news is not confirmed. Unfortunately.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 28 February 2013 08: 18
      +8
      Quote: pinecone

      Abkhazian source ANNA-news does not deserve trust

      Then listen to Al Arabia and Euronews, there are truth ......... laughing
      1. ATATA
        ATATA 28 February 2013 09: 13
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Then listen to Al Arabia and Euronews, there are truth .....
        A scout who relies on facts not confirmed from three sources, is a disinfectant.
        I was Alexander about your prudence and objectivity (given your rank) of a higher opinion.
        Are you the minusan of the person for expressing reasonable doubts?
        So far, I would call this article a provocation.
        It is worth waiting for confirmation from other sources, and this is not only Al Arabia and Euronews.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 28 February 2013 09: 29
          +6
          Quote: ATATA
          Are you the minusan of the person for expressing reasonable doubts?

          My minus is not there !!!
          As for his doubts, let him doubt, I myself have no confidence in the veracity of the information. He only makes the ANNA agency not trustworthy, but it conveys much more truth than in many others, especially Western hi
          1. ATATA
            ATATA 28 February 2013 09: 37
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            It’s just that he makes the ANNA agency not trustworthy, but in it they convey much more truth than in many others, especially Western

            Alexander, if this turns out to be true, I will applaud while standing.
            Such information will still leak, it cannot be hidden, but rejoice ahead of time, this is self-deception.
            Not enough information yet hi
          2. kostyan77708
            kostyan77708 28 February 2013 12: 53
            +1
            Yesterday I read this article yesterday, somewhere it was that this info from the words of Marat Musin, but here nothing is written about it
      2. atalef
        atalef 28 February 2013 09: 17
        -5
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Then listen to Al Arabia and Euronews, there are truth .........

        Alexander lies to one degree or another all, but in this info 100% lies.
        Nowadays, blurt out and not confirm with elementary video evidence laughing
        I remember the message of the same Abkhazian CNN laughing about the Israeli armament at the SSA, while for some reason showing toilet rolls and homemade bombs. Like Israeli pasta found in Syria laughing
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 28 February 2013 09: 32
          +3
          Quote: atalef
          Nowadays, blurt out and not confirm with elementary video evidence

          Yeah, if only the video is not shot on the sets of Qatar or Hollywood about the victorious processions of the SSA laughing
          1. atalef
            atalef 28 February 2013 12: 24
            -1
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Yeah, if only the video is not shot on the sets of Qatar or Hollywood about the victorious processions of the SSA

            Therefore, Assad does not present either Video or photo. Alexander do not laugh
        2. Bort radist
          Bort radist 28 February 2013 12: 10
          +3
          Quote: atalef
          Nowadays, blurt out and not confirm with elementary video evidence

          Alexander, you 100% believe that Osama bin Laden was liquidated and buried in the sea! Don’t share the link to the video?
      3. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 28 February 2013 09: 30
        +1
        Wow, PROFESSOR minus from you wassat Maybe I'm wrong? Can you tell me what wink
        1. ATATA
          ATATA 28 February 2013 09: 41
          0
          Alexander, minus from me. Delivered with a pure heart.
          I just think that a person with your weight on the site should give more balanced comments. hi
          Sorry if that.
          pinecone,
          gave an objective comment, for which the guy was minusanuli, but for him a minus, this is not for you a mosquito bite. And besides, he is right.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 28 February 2013 09: 54
            +4
            Quote: ATATA
            Alexander, minus from me. Set with a pure heart

            Alexei, I see who is minus me and who is plus, your minus hasn’t reached me, I’m telling you exactly.
            Quote: ATATA
            gave an objective comment, for which the guy was minusanuli, but for him a minus, this is not for you a mosquito bite.

            Now to his plus, so that you would not be upset at all hi
            1. ATATA
              ATATA 28 February 2013 10: 11
              +1
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Now to his plus, so that you would not be upset at all

              Thank you. hi
    2. atalef
      atalef 28 February 2013 09: 16
      -1
      Quote: pinecone
      The Abkhazian source ANNA-news does not deserve trust.

      And this is headed by Musin?
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 28 February 2013 09: 33
        +9
        Quote: atalef
        And this is headed by Musin?

        Musin was there and saw everything with his own eyes! Have you been there? Or it’s much more objective to watch Aljazira’s videos while sitting in front of a computer laughing
        1. atalef
          atalef 28 February 2013 13: 15
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Musin was there and saw everything with his own eyes!

          So why not let us see?
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Or it’s much more objective to watch videos of Aljazira sitting in front of a computer

          I don’t look at Al Jazir, but why not see it myself, I saw Syria yesterday laughing
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 28 February 2013 13: 23
            +5
            Quote: atalef
            So why not let us see?

            Musin’s reports were exhibited hundreds of times by visitors, but if you didn’t see them, then you weren’t interested. You just have to sit and question them. You don’t really need to!
            Quote: atalef
            saw Syria yesterday

            From a distance of 30 km laughing So I also looked at skype. Is there no desire to drive to Damascus, and then expose the report with the truth?
            1. atalef
              atalef 28 February 2013 21: 06
              -5
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Musin’s reports were exhibited hundreds of times by visitors, but if you haven’t seen them

              Saw . they don’t inspire confidence. Designed for grandmothers and suckers who do not understand anything in weapons

              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Quote: atalef
              saw Syria yesterday
              From a distance of 30 km

              Well no . from meters so 800-t. tongue
    3. Rink
      Rink 2 March 2013 01: 17
      +2
      Quote: pinecone
      The Abkhazian source ANNA-news does not deserve trust. The news is not confirmed. ....

      And who, in your opinion, is trustworthy - Al Jazeera, who filmed "news bulletins from Tripoli" in the scenery set in the Kuwait desert? or the liars from the BBC http://warfiles.ru/show-17110-lozh-lyuboy-cenoy-telekanal-bbc.html?
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  17. Normal
    Normal 28 February 2013 08: 29
    +2
    If so, the news is really good. We are waiting for confirmations.
  18. Region65
    Region65 28 February 2013 08: 38
    +1
    eh ... it was necessary for our ancestors during the Russian-Turkish wars to attach this very Turkey to the Russian Empire))))) we would now have a region there, well, or autonomy)))) and the strait in the World Cup would be ours and the Turks would not interfere with life))))))) would drown of all in the Black Sea and all the way)
    1. Rink
      Rink 2 March 2013 02: 33
      0
      Quote: Region65
      eh ... it was necessary for our ancestors during the Russian-Turkish wars to attach this very Turkey to the Russian Empire))))) ....

      The European part of Turkey was supposed to move to Russia for its participation in the First World War. This was promised to Russia by the countries of the anti-German coalition - the Entente (England, France) - and only the Russian revolution prevented Russia from opening its way to the Mediterranean Sea.

      But it’s fine if the Turks do not come to their senses further, it’s like Turkish resorts we will soon go to our homes. In the full sense of the word ...;)
      1. washi
        washi 5 March 2013 11: 56
        0
        So the British, after the failure of their landing on the territory of Turkey, organized this revolution. As they hated, they hate us
  19. Professor
    Professor 28 February 2013 08: 39
    -8
    According to some reports,

    Blah, blah, blah - such an encouraging article title and such disappointment.
    Minus. negative
    1. nnkfrschk
      nnkfrschk 28 February 2013 10: 29
      +1
      And you, too, a minus. It is for "Blah blah blah."
    2. Bort radist
      Bort radist 28 February 2013 12: 13
      0
      Quote: Professor
      Minus

      Oh, fuck up, Professor.
    3. Che
      Che 28 February 2013 13: 14
      +3
      Professor,
      Finally, under your flag. I did not disappoint.
  20. ATATA
    ATATA 28 February 2013 09: 02
    +1
    If to be objective, then without emotions I would really like to know the details. All the same, not every day such events occur. Where exactly was destroyed, how many people were in the detachment, under what circumstances, what tasks they performed there.
    And if tomorrow they write that the Marsin detachment was destroyed there, then believe it without hesitation?
    Understand correctly, I’m very happy if this is true, but minus the posts of people, just for the fact that they would like to know more actual details, it’s like puppies.
    Hello! hi
    1. SSR
      SSR 28 February 2013 10: 15
      0
      Quote: Alexxeg73
      I would like to know more factual details,

      People will learn some details in 50 years or more.
      So far I would like to know the details about September 11th ... but they are not.
      all the more so at the official level, bin Laden is to blame for everything, but strangely enough, people are not very inclined to trust Washington’s official position.
      1. ATATA
        ATATA 28 February 2013 13: 57
        +1
        Quote: SSR
        So far I would like to know the details about September 11th ... but they are not.
        So there even though online video went on, but here the OBS is all.
  21. Alexxeg73
    Alexxeg73 28 February 2013 09: 05
    +11
    ... The commander of the Combat Search and Rescue squad is scratching his head ... "It's strange, it seems like they won everyone in computer games, they got prizes in Counter-Strike ... even in pentball at a height ... Why did they cover themselves with a copper basin in Syria ?. .. "
    1. ATATA
      ATATA 28 February 2013 09: 32
      -6
      Quote: Alexxeg73
      Counter-Strike prizes were received ... even in pentball at altitude ... Why did they cover themselves with a copper basin in Syria? ... "

      Do you personally know the commander of the Turkish special forces? Did you play pentball with him, or counter?
      Enough to earn points and titles on cheap populism.
      Claudia have such patriots in Russia a dime a dozen.
      I put you a minus for your pseudo-patriotism and lack of independent thinking.
      You are not a patriot, you are a hamster under pseudo-patriotic flag.
      ps Or a schoolboy. Then still excusable.
      1. Alexxeg73
        Alexxeg73 28 February 2013 10: 36
        +2
        I put you a minus for your pseudo-patriotism и lack of sense of humor. And also for trying to take a patent on the concept patriotism.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 28 February 2013 10: 39
          +3
          Quote: Alexxeg73
          And also for trying to take a patent on the concept of patriotism.

          Ooooh, how far has it gone wassat
        2. ATATA
          ATATA 28 February 2013 10: 47
          0
          Quote: Alexxeg73
          Your pseudo-patriotism and lack of sense of humor.

          And here, what are club competitions fun and resourceful?
          Yes, I’ll survive your minus. The truth is dearer to me.
  22. uizik
    uizik 28 February 2013 09: 38
    +1
    Good teachers have good students!
  23. Vladimir 70
    Vladimir 70 28 February 2013 09: 38
    +6
    Even if the Turks fired, it is unlikely that evidence will be presented at the official level. Syria is now in no position to escalate the situation, showing the corpses of the Turks.
  24. dusha233
    dusha233 28 February 2013 09: 40
    +1
    And they apparently set the minimum difficulty level in games ... soldier
  25. Severin
    Severin 28 February 2013 09: 46
    +1
    ATATA,
    So there is sarcasm, and you take it to heart laughing

    And about whether it was destroyed or not, 50/50 since if in fact it is so, then no one will especially spread, and if not so even more so.
    1. ATATA
      ATATA 28 February 2013 09: 51
      +2
      Of course close to heart!
      But I'm tired of being deceived, and self-deception does more harm than the bitter truth. Accordingly, before opening bottles of champagne, we are waiting for confirmation from other sources. It’s hard to hide such things.
      hi
      1. Dmitry 2246
        Dmitry 2246 28 February 2013 10: 20
        0
        Alexei! Judging by the agency and the amount of information there is a reconnaissance game. One special of this level is more expensive than a modern tank. And now the reaction of Turkey is important. And even more important are the consequences. I respect your opinion.
        1. ATATA
          ATATA 28 February 2013 10: 30
          0
          Quote: Dmitry 2246
          here is a reconnaissance game.

          So far, it looks like an information game.

          Quote: Dmitry 2246
          I respect your opinion.

          I’ll tell you honestly, I am greedy for flattery. Catch a plus! laughing hi
          1. Bort radist
            Bort radist 28 February 2013 12: 16
            +1
            Quote: ATATA
            I’ll tell you honestly, I am greedy for flattery.

            Under the wolf skin a gentle soul? belay
            1. ATATA
              ATATA 28 February 2013 14: 03
              +1
              Bort Radist,
              I am so ironic.
              And so yes I am an exquisite romantic. laughing
  26. GEO
    GEO 28 February 2013 09: 55
    +5
    Good news! There is no smoke without fire. In a way, to some extent, the Turks pinched their tail.
  27. Professor
    Professor 28 February 2013 10: 01
    -9
    What a news: The New York Times said that the United States changed its policy and began to train rebels in Syria and provide them with material assistance ...

    US Offers Training and Other Aid to Syrian Rebels
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 28 February 2013 10: 03
      +7
      Quote: Professor
      train rebels in Syria

      Terrorists, terrorists, call a spade a spade.
      1. yanus
        yanus 28 February 2013 10: 42
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Terrorists, terrorists, call a spade a spade.

        That's why you confuse a person? Everything has already been explained to him - rebels in Syria, terrorists in Palestine. The correct videos have been shown, a person has something to believe in. And you are knocking him astray ...
        Can you imagine if everyone will think with their own head? Well this is a complete mess, how to earn money in such a situation?
      2. Professor
        Professor 28 February 2013 11: 25
        -6
        Respected rebels, it is theirs. As you know, the Russian Foreign Ministry has recognized what is happening in Syria as a civil war and is conducting "consultations" with all parties without exception. What do you think of the terrorists? wink
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 28 February 2013 11: 33
          +7
          Quote: Professor
          Rebels respected, it is them.

          These are the rebels that cars blow up, huh?
          Quote: Professor
          and conducts "consultations" with all parties without exception.

          Russia does not conduct negotiations with ordinary thugs as it does with the ringleaders, but nevertheless is forced to intervene in order to stop this battle organized by terrorists with the full support of the US and Turkey !!! And if you look even further, then the professor (God forbid) they will come to power and I assure you. You will become the first on the site who will start to call these clowns, whom you call rebels today, as terrorists. And this is FACT.
          1. Professor
            Professor 28 February 2013 12: 03
            -8
            These are the rebels that cars blow up, huh?

            These are terrorists, and rebels stormed airbases and other military installations.

            Russia does not conduct negotiations with ordinary thugs as with leaders

            So Lavrov is lying? wink

            You will become the first one on the site who starts to call these clowns whom you call rebels today as terrorists. And this is FACT.

            This is not a fact, but your guess. hi

            arranged by terrorists with the full support of the US and Turkey !!!

            Now the support of the USA will go and see how long Assad will last.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 28 February 2013 12: 08
              +6
              Quote: Professor
              These are terrorists, and rebels storm airbases and other military installations

              The strangest thing is that they both feed with one hand wink So it does not stick with you hi
              Quote: Professor
              So Lavrov is lying?

              Why he’s lying, political correctness no more. He’s not Clinton, screaming about every occasion.
              Quote: Professor
              This is not a fact, but your guess.

              I’m afraid that it’s not only mine. You yourself understand this, but admit ............. well, you won’t slap yourself in the face. I understand that.
              Quote: Professor
              Now the US support will go and see how long Assad will last

              I’m reading and somehow I see on my own whose side you are taking. Your comments cannot be called neutral, even with a stretch. hi
              1. Professor
                Professor 28 February 2013 12: 38
                -4
                The strangest thing is that they both feed with one hand

                OBS? wink

                Nevertheless, Lavrov, the official, the head of the Russian Foreign Ministry, says that Russia is consulting "with all the forces of Syria without exception." I think everything is clear here.
                And on the account of "political correctness" with Mishiko did not begin to "consult" - this is such incorrectness. laughing

                I’m reading and somehow I see on my own whose side you are taking. Your comments cannot be called neutral, even with a stretch.

                I did not hide and do not hide my personal hostility to the Asad family, but I also do not feel special love and respect for the rebels. Radish horseradish is not sweeter.
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 28 February 2013 12: 47
                  +1
                  Quote: Professor
                  OBS?

                  If OBS, then in this case on your part hi
                  Quote: Professor
                  And on the account of "political correctness" with Mishiko did not begin to "consult" - this is such incorrectness

                  Mishiko is the same mongrel as the one created by the amers of CCANO and they talked to Mishiko to the last. I do not understand, I got it. hi
                  Quote: Professor
                  I didn’t hide or hide my personal hostility to the Asad family,

                  Ah, here she is, where the dog rummaged laughing
                  Quote: Professor
                  but I don’t feel special love and respect for the rebels either.

                  Judging by your comments, they are still preferable to you. But this is only for now wink
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 28 February 2013 12: 52
                    -1
                    If OBS, then in this case on your part

                    What kind of childhood? You either provide the source of your information or silently minus ...

                    Judging by your comments, they are still preferable to you. But this is only for now

                    Especially for you I repeat: horseradish radish is not sweeter. I prefer Switzerland as a neighbor, but geography does not accept my personal desires as an argument.
                    1. Alexander Romanov
                      Alexander Romanov 28 February 2013 13: 05
                      +4
                      Quote: Professor
                      What kind of childhood? You either provide the source of your information or silently minus it.

                      Get it, minusan, but while we communicate within the framework I don’t see the point.
                      With regards to the facts, but how the Afghans get into Syria, the hour is not the US Air Force laughing
                      Quote: Professor
                      horseradish radish is not sweeter

                      Strange, here Karish wrote that Assaad is preferable, it is predictable in contrast to those that are screamed by Allah Akbar. Here I agree with him and I think that in this case the radish is much sweeter than horseradish hi
                      1. Professor
                        Professor 28 February 2013 14: 35
                        -4
                        With regards to the facts, but how the Afghans get into Syria, the hour is not the US Air Force

                        teleport
                        I guessed that I would not see the sources of information links ...

                        Strange, here Karish wrote that Assaad is preferable, he is predictable in contrast to those that are screaming by Allah Akbar

                        And Assad and the rebels stand each other.
                      2. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 28 February 2013 14: 43
                        +4
                        Quote: Professor
                        I guessed that I would not see the sources of information links ...

                        Suggest the head of the CIA recognize this fact? Itself poorly pranalize \?
                        Quote: Professor
                        And Assad and the rebels stand each other.

                        Some are fighting for their homeland, the second for allah and money.
                      3. Professor
                        Professor 28 February 2013 16: 56
                        -4
                        Itself poorly pranalize \?

                        Or they could just write "IMHO" or "I do not have accurate information, but I think that ..."

                        Some are fighting for their homeland, the second for allah and money.


                        Both of them are fighting for power over territory and population, no more and no less.
                      4. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 28 February 2013 17: 01
                        +1
                        Quote: Professor
                        Or they could just write "IMHO" or "I do not have accurate information, but I think that ..."

                        yes it is possible and so, but does not change the essence.
                      5. Neksel
                        Neksel 4 August 2013 15: 12
                        -1
                        in this case, I agree. An ophthalmologist is more predictable than all this al-Qaeda rabble of fanatics ... and even with Assad, the cold world has been quite stable for a long time. I think with Assad in general sooner or later it would be possible to sign a peace treaty, as with Jordan at one time, and this would only contribute to the development of the region, but unfortunately it’s not destiny ....
                        It seems that this situation also suited him less or less, such a status quo (although in fact the state of war between Israel and Syria seems to have been canceled by no one).
                        And if Assad is driven out, then don’t go to the fortuneteller - they will trample on Israel next,
                        and then another not calm border is guaranteed.
                      6. alone
                        alone 4 August 2013 15: 25
                        0
                        they will trample on Lebanon deal with Hezbollah, and not on Israel. as soon as they go to get you to the fullest from everyone) they are not fools, I dare to assure you
              2. Sandov
                Sandov 28 February 2013 20: 47
                +2
                Alexander Romanov,
                I don’t see our professor, so he put me on a black list. wassat laughing
            2. ultra
              ultra 28 February 2013 15: 58
              +1
              Quote: Professor
              Now the support of the USA will go and see how long Assad will last.

              I bet on a bottle of Hennessy! drinks
            3. saturn.mmm
              saturn.mmm 28 February 2013 22: 33
              +1
              Quote: Professor
              Now the support of the USA will go and see how long Assad will last.

              And before that, there was no US support? Or support is provided only when the New York Times announces it.
              1. Professor
                Professor 28 February 2013 22: 53
                -3
                Do you have any docs?
                1. saturn.mmm
                  saturn.mmm 3 March 2013 23: 16
                  +1
                  Quote: Professor
                  Do you have any docs?

                  Professor I didn’t say anything. He modestly asked a question.
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 4 March 2013 08: 38
                    0
                    He modestly asked a question.

                    Then here's the answer, there wasn’t.
                    1. nnkfrschk
                      nnkfrschk 4 March 2013 10: 33
                      0
                      You, professor, are usually not in the subject, and do not understand the issue.
                      The United States has consistently allocated money to the Syrian opposition, "for humanitarian purposes," as it said. Do I need to explain that this money was spent by the militants and for the militants?
                    2. saturn.mmm
                      saturn.mmm 4 March 2013 11: 17
                      0
                      Quote: Professor
                      Then here's the answer, there wasn’t.

                      Thank. I don’t put you cons, otherwise you’ll think about it.
                      I would like to know your opinion on Egypt, as it is restless there.
                      1. Professor
                        Professor 4 March 2013 12: 15
                        +1
                        Bad things in Egypt. The Islamists lost income (a huge part of it) from tourism and part from gas supplies. Urgently requested a loan from the IMF. Bread there is subsidized by the army and there is a possibility of a reduction in US military assistance, which will lead to even greater unrest and a military coup. In short, they will miss Mubarak ...
                      2. saturn.mmm
                        saturn.mmm 4 March 2013 16: 44
                        0
                        Quote: Professor
                        In short, they will miss Mubarak ...

                        Everything is relative.
                        Maybe Israel will increase the number of resorts, and soon Soviet citizens will have nowhere to rest (with the Islamization of Turkey) and there will be no particular problems with the language barrier.
                      3. washi
                        washi 5 March 2013 12: 12
                        0
                        How nowhere? What about Syria? Sea, attractions for those wishing to airsoft. There is a hotel in the form of a naval base for recreation, etc. For extremists and survivors, any site to choose from. Excursions to Jerusalem.
    2. Che
      Che 28 February 2013 13: 24
      +7
      Professor,
      The news is shit. To arm bandits is a crime against humanity. It smells of genocide, or even the Holocaust.
    3. AlexW
      AlexW 28 February 2013 22: 17
      +1
      Professor, They also taught Al Qaeda fellow Go to the mines!
  28. xan
    xan 28 February 2013 10: 26
    +2
    good news.
    it is also necessary that somewhere in Europe they write about the fact that the French commandos were destroyed, or some other NATO. Let them refute, doubts remain. Public opinion needs to be changed. This is an information war, and it must also be attacked.
  29. nokki
    nokki 28 February 2013 10: 45
    +4
    IMHO, our commandos will never miss the opportunity (as, by the way, the American ones) to take part in real special operations in such a specific country as Syria. Moreover, battles are fought both in urban conditions and in desert and mountainous areas. An additional incentive is the participation of special forces from other countries and elite terrorist units.
    In any case, expecting an undoubted attack by the West on Iran and further expansion to the South of Russia and Central Asia, our military leaders are simply obliged to "train" special forces in combat conditions!
  30. Alexxeg73
    Alexxeg73 28 February 2013 10: 56
    +3
    By the way, Marat Musin, the author of the news, is competent enough in matters of what is happening in Syria. He himself is "on the front line" there, many journalistic investigations have been conducted. So there is a high probability that this is not a "duck". Let's wait for the news ...
  31. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 28 February 2013 11: 20
    +5
    <<< In Syria, the "special forces" of Turkey, the elite officer squad Combat Search and Rescue "(CSR), suffered irreparable losses. >>>
    One can only congratulate the Syrian army, which demonstrates high professionalism, courage and resilience, forced under the strongest pressure from the West to resist the aggression of numerous bands of Islamic terrorists gathered from around the world to overthrow the legitimate government of Syria. Maybe this will cool the ardor of other NATO crap-mongers, who imagine themselves to be the arbiters of the destinies of other peoples, who, allegedly, are “allowed” to spit on international law to climb into the territory of a sovereign state with their soldiers' boots. This is what awaits you in Syria, Mr. SHITTERS!
  32. understudy
    understudy 28 February 2013 11: 22
    +1
    Quote: domokl
    but groups will not send exactly


    It happens, it happens ... but in case of failure, it turns out that everyone has long been fired and are in stock on free bread. And in our history there are examples of this.
    I hope the specialists got a good practice there. I envy kindly. Age, damn it ...
  33. Natalia
    Natalia 28 February 2013 14: 02
    +5
    "In Syria, the" special forces "of Turkey - an elite officer squad Combat Search and Rescue" (CSR), suffered irreparable losses. " According to some reports, the so-called kelbeti (ghosts) unit was almost completely destroyed. "

    Poor fellows ..... lol
    I’m embarrassed to ask, what did the Turkish special forces forget in Syria? Get lost, what a misfortune winked

    As they say to a curious barbarian in the bazaar, something was torn off ... lol
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 28 February 2013 14: 20
      +3
      Quote: Natalia
      I’m embarrassed to ask, what did the Turkish special forces forget in Syria?

      Yes, this one sent by order of the owner
      1. ayyildiz
        ayyildiz 28 February 2013 14: 26
        -2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Yes, this one sent by order of the owner


        Do you know what is written there?
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 28 February 2013 14: 27
          +2
          Quote: ayyildiz
          You know what is written there

          That they saw the last name Bush, which was the six, and remained so
      2. Natalia
        Natalia 28 February 2013 14: 33
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Yes, this one sent by order of the owner

        More precisely, you will not say)
  34. ayyildiz
    ayyildiz 28 February 2013 14: 23
    -8
    There is no life and there can’t be a Turkish special forces, the article is again mushroomed brooch dirt does not stick even a stain remains!
    1. Natalia
      Natalia 28 February 2013 14: 43
      +9
      Quote: ayyildiz
      No, and there can’t be a Turkish special forces there

      There cannot be Salvador special forces there, yes ........ but just the Turkish special forces are still there (if you look at the map, the presence of a common border with Syria can be traced) ..... well or at least what is left of him .....
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 28 February 2013 14: 46
        +3
        Quote: Natalia

        There can be no Salvador special forces there, yes ..

        Natasha, it's useless !!! He has a portrait of Erdogan in every room in his house, and here we are encroaching on the "holy". This is the future Constantinople wink
        1. Natalia
          Natalia 28 February 2013 14: 52
          +3
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          This is the future Constantinople

          Constantinoplez lol and his favorite football team in the future is Panathinaikos laughing
          1. ayyildiz
            ayyildiz 28 February 2013 15: 29
            -7
            The hare on the mountain was offended, but the mountain did not even notice lol
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 28 February 2013 15: 37
              +3
              Quote: ayyildiz
              The hare on the mountain was offended, but the mountain did not even notice

              Yes, yes, there’s nothing left of a mountain called the Ottoman Empire laughing
              1. ayyildiz
                ayyildiz 28 February 2013 15: 44
                -8
                For that, the Turkish Republic eats and always will be!
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 28 February 2013 16: 03
                  +6
                  Quote: ayyildiz
                  For that, the Turkish Republic eats and always will be!

                  Your PASHES said the same thing and quite successfully implemented, and then Oops belay Russians are coming. That's what they had, and what remains now recourse
                  And given what line Erdogan is oppressing, there will not be the last one soon. Although you can write slogans as much as you like, anyway laughing
                  1. ayyildiz
                    ayyildiz 28 February 2013 20: 52
                    -6
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    Your PASHES said the same thing and quite successfully implemented

                    And now we decided to return everything without a warrior, Germany is already at 10% ours, Bulgaria at 20% Syria at 15%, Greece at 10%, Iraq at 10% and in many countries, so I respect you and invite you to .. ..
                    1. AlexW
                      AlexW 28 February 2013 22: 25
                      +9
                      ayyildiz, In Germany: -Turkish youth was naughty to an old German woman, they say we will soon be in the majority. Babka is imperturbable - "So what? Before the war in Germany, there were also a lot of Jews."
                      1. Mironk
                        Mironk 1 March 2013 00: 01
                        -6
                        AlexW
                        You, my friend, are composing something absurd, you confuse Germany with Kislodrischenskoy as some kind of grandmother, easily, you would screw up for the propaganda of Nazism the very tomatoes - the Germans have such things strictly. Yes, to be honest, I didn’t observe the boorish Turkish youth in Germany, but I often visit Germans at work. I will say more - many residents of Germany of Turkish descent in Turkish know only the names of football cubes.
                      2. saturn.mmm
                        saturn.mmm 3 March 2013 13: 26
                        +3
                        Quote: MironK
                        Yes, to be honest, I didn’t observe the boorish Turkish youth in Germany, but I often visit Germans

                        You are not there.
                      3. ayyildiz
                        ayyildiz 1 March 2013 00: 08
                        -3
                        Sorry, but we respect the old people!
                    2. Alexander Romanov
                      Alexander Romanov 1 March 2013 05: 36
                      +2
                      Quote: ayyildiz
                      so I respect you and invite you to ....

                      I remember the Chechen scumbags in Grozny, too, screaming on the radio, Vanya, go away, then you will come, we'll sit and have a drink.
                2. Che
                  Che 28 February 2013 17: 05
                  +4
                  ayyildiz,
                  As unreasonable children, the heritage of the great Atatürk is prosperous. It is time not to run ahead of a steam train called states. am
                3. tupolev-95
                  tupolev-95 28 February 2013 19: 52
                  +3
                  Eats, ate and will eat))))))
                4. Lord of the Sith
                  Lord of the Sith 28 February 2013 21: 15
                  +4
                  I personally am for Ataturk and the secular state.
              2. Natalia
                Natalia 28 February 2013 15: 49
                +2
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                nothing left of a mountain called the Ottoman Empire

                ..... why not, but Constantinople laughing
                1. Setrac
                  Setrac 1 March 2013 01: 07
                  -2
                  Constantinople - in Greek, remove the ending - paul, we get the Romanian city of Constanta near the mouth of the Danube, and the Danube is the main transport artery of Europe. smile
              3. Ruslan67
                Ruslan67 28 February 2013 16: 03
                +2
                [quote = Alexander Romanov] nothing is left of the mountain called the Ottoman Empire laughing
                Why nothing? A huge flea market near the beach for our tourists wassat Hi Sasha hi
        2. ayyildiz
          ayyildiz 28 February 2013 14: 56
          -3
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          .This is the future Constantinople


          I’ll die and take a few with me Constantinople, with what I become!

          I am a Kemalist and not Erdoganovets!
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 28 February 2013 15: 00
            +7
            Quote: ayyildiz
            Ray will die

            Oh, the adversary wished to be destroyed laughing
            In the photo, the Bosphorus, as I understand it, is under this bridge our ships carry weapons to Syria under the nose of Erdogan wink
            A photo is nothing, a beautiful view. The Greeks will be pleased to return to their homes good
            1. Natalia
              Natalia 28 February 2013 15: 04
              +3
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              beautiful view. The Greeks will be pleased to return to their homes

              Well you're straight irresistible good wink
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 28 February 2013 15: 07
                +5
                Quote: Natalia
                Well you're straight irresistible

                You too are a charm ................
                Quote: Natalia
                I said that there was a Turkish special forces, so he was there ........ and now he is not there .... here

                laughing laughing laughing
            2. ayyildiz
              ayyildiz 28 February 2013 15: 27
              -5
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              .Greeks will be pleased to return to their homes


              The Greeks would not die of hunger! By the way, they have already started quietly selling their corporations to the Turks, so think who under whom hi

              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              under this bridge our ships carry weapons to Syria


              If it does not contradict the laws and what a problem they carry!
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 28 February 2013 15: 42
                +4
                Quote: ayyildiz
                The Greeks would not die of hunger!

                The world is not permanent, as Greece is an example! Everything changes and most importantly, evil does not live long !!!
                Quote: ayyildiz
                If it does not contradict the laws and what a problem they carry!

                Well, yes, this is not a civilian plane to land, here you can get a snot.
                1. ayyildiz
                  ayyildiz 28 February 2013 15: 48
                  -6
                  Alexander Romanov,

                  Last year’s incident with the 3 killed Chechens in Istanbul from the Russian special services, too, remember?
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 28 February 2013 16: 06
                    +9
                    Quote: ayyildiz
                    3 killed by Chechens in Istanbul on the part of the Russian special services also remember?

                    Our three terrorists in Turkey put well done !!! Yes, Turkey has become a paradise for the whole rabble
      2. ayyildiz
        ayyildiz 28 February 2013 14: 50
        -4
        Ms. Natalia show the facts? if of course there are any,
        1. Natalia
          Natalia 28 February 2013 14: 59
          +8
          Quote: ayyildiz
          Mrs. Natalia show the facts

          ...... facts to show you ... cost tongue
          I’m not investigating so that I can operate on the facts before you, I said that there was a Turkish special forces, so he was there ........ and now he is not there .... here winked
        2. Alexxeg73
          Alexxeg73 28 February 2013 15: 04
          +11
          I'm not Natasha, but I'll try to throw in a few words. Turkish special forces groups were already operating in Syria in September-October 1998, "... most of these groups worked in the uniform of the Syrian army or in the clothes of local residents ..." (from the special forces magazine "Brother"). From 1984 to 1995, special forces carried out operations in southeastern Turkey, in northern Iraq, areas bordering with Syria. One of the operations - "peacekeeping" - was in Bosnia. Turkey, as in other cases, did not advertise the participation of its special forces in it. Meanwhile, in at least two cases, special forces took part in operations to seize people wanted by the Hague court. Several more times the fighters tracked down people who were later detained by the SAS fighters. Turkish special forces assisted in the training of the Bosnian army. In 2001, the Turkish General Staff sent 90 special forces officers and sergeants to Afghanistan. The Turks performed well in the capture of the northern city of Mazar-i-Sharif. In addition to conducting reconnaissance in the southern direction, they managed to capture a number of strategic fortifications, with the support of the Northern Alliance troops, unexpectedly attacking the Taliban.
          In 2003, US and British forces invaded Iraq. Turkey tried to take advantage of this in its own interests by organizing a series of sabotages aimed at clashing Kurdish organizations. However, quite unexpectedly, the Americans detained a group of 11 Turkish special forces soldiers. It happened in June 2003. The only operation in which SAS has been confirmed is reconnaissance and seizure of the coastline during the Turkish invasion of Cyprus in 1974. Little is known about the operations of SAT, except that they landed on the island of Imia in 1996, during a conflict with Greece.
          SAT also participated in a number of operations against Kurdish rebels. SAT conducted a series of sabotage in Northern Iraq, including the demolition of several bunkers with PKK fighters. SAT fighters were in Kosovo and Albania, where they evacuated Turkish citizens. A number of operations were carried out by fighters against drug dealers in the Anatolia region.

          Summarizing, it is clear that the territories of activity of the Turkish special forces go far beyond the borders of their country. Most operations are against the Kurds. And now the Kurds are also opposing the rebels in Syria, so the presence of Turkish special forces there is a very high probability.
          1. Natalia
            Natalia 28 February 2013 15: 26
            +3
            Quote: Alexxeg73
            Summarizing, it is clear that the territories of activity of the Turkish special forces go far beyond the borders of their country. Most operations are against the Kurds. And now the Kurds are also opposing the rebels in Syria, so the presence of Turkish special forces there is a very high probability.

            .... here is a smart girl smile wink
            Plus +) I put you huge)
          2. ayyildiz
            ayyildiz 28 February 2013 15: 33
            -5
            Quote: Alexxeg73
            And now the Kurds are also opposing the rebels in Syria, so the presence of Turkish special forces there is a very high probability.


            Not yet, if the Kurds do not want to dismember Syria
    2. Natalia
      Natalia 28 February 2013 14: 46
      +3
      Quote: ayyildiz
      mushrooms brooch mud

      Or maybe you shouldn’t throw mud so often, people may not like it ......
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 28 February 2013 15: 03
        +2
        Quote: Natalia
        people may not like it

        New cards will start to draw wink rather, old update
        1. Natalia
          Natalia 28 February 2013 15: 21
          +2
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          New cards will start to draw

          lol lol .....as an option laughing
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 28 February 2013 15: 30
            +4
            Quote: Natalia
            ..as an option

            All Natasha, you finished him off. He left proudly from Sait, change his passport to Greek winked
            1. Natalia
              Natalia 28 February 2013 15: 35
              +5
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              All Natasha, you finished him

              lol ........ I finished it off?). But not alone, we are together wink He listened to us, settled down all realized lol
              1. Ruslan67
                Ruslan67 28 February 2013 16: 22
                +4
                Quote: Natalia
                He listened to us, settled down all realized

                And promised to correct? wassat
                1. Natalia
                  Natalia 28 February 2013 16: 38
                  +2
                  Quote: Ruslan67
                  And promised to correct?

                  He did not promise a rumor, but thought about it lol
                  It can be seen that he is a true Constantinople in his soul, and that secretly he is a fan of FC Panathinaikos and is very empathetic to Greece, he is simply embarrassed by these strong feelings winked
                  1. Ruslan67
                    Ruslan67 28 February 2013 16: 49
                    +4
                    Quote: Natalia
                    He did not promise a rumor, but thought about it

                    Probably cheat what
                    Quote: Natalia
                    that secretly from his friends is rooting for FC Panathinaikos

                    Oh my God, why is it so? wassat
                  2. ayyildiz
                    ayyildiz 28 February 2013 21: 08
                    -7
                    Quote: Natalia
                    empathizes with Greece,


                    Rather, Greece is for us! And we do not need to compare! Their burgundy berets and ours
                    1. Natalia
                      Natalia 1 March 2013 00: 43
                      +7
                      Russian maroon berets are cooler good
                      1. Natalia
                        Natalia 1 March 2013 00: 46
                        0
                        And here are our brothers Belarusians, also specklers wink
                        And so from here you can understand that the SLAV brothers are power.
                      2. Natalia
                        Natalia 1 March 2013 00: 48
                        +6
                        And these are our brothers Belarusians, also specklers wink
                        And so from here you can understand that the SLAV brothers are power good
            2. ayyildiz
              ayyildiz 28 February 2013 20: 42
              -5
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              All Natasha, you finished him off. He left proudly from Sait, change his passport to Greek


              I will not miss a discussion with you here!

              I already have 3 passports, and all legal, much more!
  35. Genur
    Genur 28 February 2013 14: 25
    +1
    Every day is not Sunday
  36. AlexiusKit
    AlexiusKit 28 February 2013 15: 31
    +1
    The best news ... Keep it up, Syria! smile
  37. Geisenberg
    Geisenberg 28 February 2013 16: 29
    +1
    And nefig was to climb where the horse does not fit!
  38. Orthodox warrior
    Orthodox warrior 28 February 2013 16: 44
    +3
    This is great news! But seeing that someone minus it, I was surprised. After going through the comments, I saw old "friends". How annoyed the Jewish people are by this news! Ah ah ah...
    And you, Alexander Romanov and Natalia, +
    Great advantage! It was funny to read how you communicated with one semi-literate who went "to change his passport in Greek".
  39. pinecone
    pinecone 28 February 2013 16: 59
    +1
    ATATA Thank you, Comrade Major General, for your help and support, otherwise our zealous “Lubyanka Marshal” could have erased camp dust. But to know, it is resourceful is not at all the one that used to be. A rare soul man, softened by the heart, and even promised to deliver a plus.
    Petty Officer Pinecone
    As for the minuses, their Turkish agents bet everyone who will raise their voices against Ankara. They slammed two of them to Comrade Marshal and didn’t look at the rank. .
  40. Bashkaus
    Bashkaus 28 February 2013 18: 28
    +1
    Assuming the veracity of the message, then I have the only explanation for why there is no specificity:
    You understand, an official statement with a demonstration of several special forces blind man's buffs will require an official reaction, not from Damascus, but from Moscow, because it will either have to publicly chew snot and not answer such a daring fact, or, on the contrary, start demonstratively demanding Turkey and all NATO en masse. The United States and their mongrels of course disgrace themselves, but the Russian Federation is forced to wake up somehow to punish the bully, but how? Fuck with nuclear missiles? Therefore, if this took place, then they were quietly stuffed, maybe they were brought up on KAMAZ trucks and thrown out at the Syrian-Turkish border, maybe they just said in a private conversation "I'm sorry, there is nothing to give" And everyone is happy with the information leaked through the yellow press, who is in the subject, I understand , the rest are wondering, the Turks are fluffy, Russia does not need to harness, everyone continues to shit on each other quietly (preferably on the doormat at the entrance)
  41. fero
    fero 28 February 2013 19: 14
    +2
    If there was a Turkish special forces, then it will not be easy to identify. Or does someone think that they crossed the border in burgundy berets in full parade and with a full package of documents? winked
    Of course, I did not receive special training, but I think before the operation itself and in its process the strictest conspiracy is observed. Everything is done so that the person could not be identified in the event of failure: the presence of fake documents, the cover legend (I think that it is appropriate even in a warring country), small arms and ammunition that cannot be traced to the country of origin, the removal of any identification marks, including wearable tattoos well, etc.
    In short, even having a video on which someone’s corpses will be recorded, you can’t do without providing additional intelligence. (radio interception data for example) But there are big doubts that they will provide.
    1. AlexW
      AlexW 28 February 2013 22: 36
      +1
      fero, IMHO Assad does not bother with this. Wets them and that's it. Even the most pumped muscle is nothing against a fool bullet. None of the most cunning foreheads can withstand a direct hit. But when in auls they howl - "Where are our sons? There is no war - why are they dying?" Then the truth will be revealed - was the special forces in Syria
  42. jagdpanzer
    jagdpanzer 28 February 2013 20: 35
    0
    ghosts turned into ghosts .. bully Go Kurds stole, the return went)
  43. Yeraz
    Yeraz 1 March 2013 11: 34
    +2
    Well, some news agency said something and everyone believed it was as if they were there personally. About 2 weeks ago, some source also reported that 60 helicopters from Turkey were pulled by Azerbaijan and started off, they even published an article, analysts immediately started to draw conclusions and when the news began to grow even more Turkey made a statement that it was DISINFORMATION. But several media wrote about the false information, and the rest, including this site, remained infa that these helicopters would buy.
    So don’t run ahead of the train, on the contrary, it’s advantageous for Syria to publish photos of those killed all over the world, here’s a vile Turkey, a sneaky West. It’s a trump card up its sleeve.
    1. washi
      washi 5 March 2013 12: 34
      0
      what for? Then figure out what the Turks forgot in Syria. The unauthorized presence of ALIEN military personnel on its territory means a declaration of war. This is, at the moment, Syria is not profitable. Therefore silence
  44. Husseyn
    Husseyn 2 March 2013 02: 29
    0
    Um, purely theoretically, there are no facts, at least for me personally - I ran through the news, the Turks could also be hit by an air strike, as someone wrote above, which is why the Syrian, or even the Russian special forces, are unclear.

    Comments one dumber another. Sorry, who of the cheers patrons has to do with special forces except in the language?

    In life, everything happens with any special forces, for whom I recall a short memory, at one time in Chechnya at the very beginning, GRU special forces flew almost in full force. A day later, all their equipment and weapons were at an American base in Turkey. No one is safe from anything, but it’s ridiculous and pathetic to read the nonsense that all the couch spe-e-e-e-tznazovtsi have bred.
    1. Sandov
      Sandov 2 March 2013 15: 48
      +3
      Husseyn,
      No matter how, but the occupier was destroyed and this is a positive fact. And the fact that you secretly helped to promote the slaughter in the Caucasus is also known. Well, nothing, we are with God's help. and such a mother cleansed their land from evil. What and Syria I wish.
  45. Stalinets
    Stalinets 4 March 2013 01: 19
    +3
    Elite unit, can cover only no less elite unit ...... I wonder who cut off the ears of the Turks ...... laughing
    1. Mironk
      Mironk 5 March 2013 16: 59
      0
      Stalinets
      You are mistaken, any elite unit can be destroyed in many different ways - air strikes, artillery, mortars, armored vehicles, the actions of snipers, etc. - you can continue for a long time. Effective scenes when tough guys with their bare hands tear others, no less cool - this is more in the movies. In a real war, everything is different ...
  46. Husseyn
    Husseyn 4 March 2013 19: 27
    +2
    Sandov, um, I don’t see anything positive in that Assad will tremble longer than Gaddafi ... I’ll explain.
    Like it or not, but sat on Assad and do not get down, it’s a fact, and those who have more resources and opportunities than Russia have landed, is also a fact. The fact that now we are thrusting money into Assad is all that it is now supplied with money, even as scrap metal if taken from vast warehouses, plus transportation costs, so to speak. Moreover, following the experience of the scoop, we thump the money in Assad according to the old principle - we’ll give two cuts ... we cut it. So why the Russians need another item of expenditure? - if a vseravno next loser vseravno put up in the refrigerator the food store, albeit a couple of weeks later, and Russia wipes out for nothing, because of the absence of which if my memory serves me, two special forces brigades in Siberia were covered ...
    So I am for Assad to be banged as soon as possible even by the very same Turkish commandos, and my hard-earned people went to support and develop their own army, and not a stranger.
    How many debts were written off to Iraq, who remembers?
    How many poheril in Libya?
    How much have you pumped now?
    Just look around ... and think, is there really no better use of all this money (money) in a country where there are no normal roads, communications, where people sometimes live worse than stray dogs?
    In Vova, such a policy, politics is a continuation of the economy, and not an ideology like under Sovka, the guys simply do not know how and do not want to earn money, they are used to stealing, there is no talent to come up with new ones, and they’re fooling their heads naive on the lime wave of patriotism.
    So pray that Assad banged quickly, if it is not profitable for us (supposedly), then at least it will cost less.
  47. Simon
    Simon 4 March 2013 22: 45
    0
    My friend! In a place with Assad, our weapons, still Soviet, are fighting, which is morally obsolete, but it hits perfectly both militants and Turks. And the longer Assad lasts, and the better he wins, the better the Russians are for us, the more the credibility of our modern weapons will rise and the more it will be bought by other countries, from which the Russian economy will rise. You are not a visionary man of Huseyn. fool
    1. Husseyn
      Husseyn 5 March 2013 00: 05
      0
      Simon, um, as I understand it, do you know the price of Soviet weapons in actions against militants? ... Or at least you think that they do not know the price abroad, in terms of advantages and disadvantages, especially on the Arabian and Sinai peninsulas and Mesopotamia? ...
      Perhaps I am short-sighted, because for this it is necessary to know the history and remember, for example, that the Soviet weapons were used by the Arabs in more than one war with the Israelis, the same Syrians, being the most trained among the Arabs, could not even reveal all its capabilities when it was relatively modern, what to expect now, when it's outdated hdam and no more ...
      So, Dear Friend :), you need to spend more time behind books without knowing the history, it’s impossible to talk about the present and even more so to predict the future, and you can even crap one's pants from scratch with children's ideas for advertising Soviet weapons in the Middle East and raising the Russian economy as a result of this: )
  48. Perchik
    Perchik 5 March 2013 18: 16
    0
    It's fun to read this "news" ...

    You were divorced as children, and you were seduced right there ...
    There is not a single source about the origin of this "news" :)

    Admins got bored, so they made a "stuffing" of news, so that you do not get bored :)
    1. Smirnov Vadim
      Smirnov Vadim 6 March 2013 06: 40
      0
      At the bottom of the article there is a link to the source - The original source http://www.rosbalt.ru/main/2013/02/27/1099531.html .
  49. Lankov Victor
    Lankov Victor April 27 2013 21: 03
    0
    Had a rest in Turkey - helped the Wahhabi!
  50. vitali0891
    vitali0891 9 May 2013 14: 02
    +1
    Quote: Professor
    And in all past history, our Turks at all times sneezed in the tail and mane ... Somehow I see no reason to change anything in the tradition that has developed over centuries

    Teach history more carefully, for example, about the city of Kars ...

    Forced to apologize for his compatriot, a really stupid example of history) In fact, Kars constantly passed into hands, then Russians raked, then Turks)) although unfortunately the civilian population of the city suffered the most and it was they who completely and raked.
    Speaking in essence and in historical truth, here is proud of a German) We rake everything !!!
    I remember a historical book with stories and stories about Suvorov and his soldiers, I remember how there Turks repeatedly ran away from only one rumor that Suvorov personally leads the troops into battle. But I also remember the stories from this same book as to our great regret, the Russian soldiers suffered huge losses, I remember how the Russian guys filled their ditches with their corpses. I remember how our guys famously with courage took fortresses, but it was also written there that Turkish soldiers valiantly fought back in fortresses. Notice! what exactly in our Russian books and textbooks speaks of the valor of the enemy. Because before even knew how to respect the enemy. And here you guys are sorry, I just measure my pussy like little children. And one more thing, if one really does look at history, in fact, the Turks raked mainly from the Ukrainian Cossacks, and not from the Russian armies, for which Ukraine, of course, paid a heavy price, since the Turks naturally answered the same and raided Ukraine. As I wrote above, we raked everything :)