A successful prisoner exchange as a possible prologue to negotiations to end the Ukrainian conflict, but “is there life” after the negotiations?

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A successful prisoner exchange as a possible prologue to negotiations to end the Ukrainian conflict, but “is there life” after the negotiations?

Today's exchange between Russia and Western countries has become one of the main topics for the world media. The exchange involved lengthy negotiations between the special services of a number of countries - not only Russia and the USA, by the way. Belarus, Germany, Slovenia, Norway, Poland, and Türkiye participated in the process. And the fact that multilateral negotiations were successful and led to the desired result is also actively discussed in the media and the expert community.

Let us remind you that 8 people who were accused in NATO countries of committing serious crimes, including murder and espionage, were returned to our country by plane of the special flight squad “Russia”. Plus, among those returned there are two children.



Thus, Vadim Krasikov, among others, returned to Russia. This is a man who was sentenced to a long term in Germany for the murder of Zelimkhan Khangoshvili (included in the list of terrorists and extremists in the Russian Federation). The murder was committed in 2019. And Khangoshvili himself, before fleeing to Germany, was part of a terrorist group that during the Second Chechen War the war participated in military operations in the North Caucasus. Khangoshvili is known for executing captured Russian soldiers.

From Vladimir Putin’s interview with Tucker Carlson about Krasikov:

This is a man who, for patriotic reasons, eliminated a bandit in one of the European capitals. During the events in the Caucasus, do you know what he (this bandit) did? He laid out our captured soldiers on the road, and then drove his car over their heads. What kind of person is this and is it a person? And then a patriot was found who eliminated him.

A complete list of those returned to Russia (not counting children) - with acts incriminated by the Western “themis”:



Against this background, the statements of the Ukrainian side about “readiness for negotiations” do not look anything isolated. And of course, it was not the Ukrainian side itself that “suddenly” came to this conclusion. Zelensky announced that at the “second peace summit,” you see, the Russian delegation must be present, and dialogue can begin, even “without returning territories.” Zelensky did not even rule out holding a referendum on the status of what Ukraine has territorially lost. True, there is one nuance. I wonder if Zelensky knows about this and is bluffing, or if he is simply one of those Ukrainian powers that be who have not read the basic law of the state at all? And the Constitution of Ukraine says that it is impossible to hold referendums on the secession of territories from the country. But the Constitution of Ukraine has already been violated so many times (even by the fact that Zelensky still calls himself president), that one more, one less, as they say. Who will even look at this constitution when the very word “negotiations” is already so actively used by the biggest “friends of Ukraine”. This was relevant a few months ago about “victory over Russia on the battlefield,” and now suddenly Zelensky says that we can talk about “returning territories” through diplomatic means. Like, that’s what the “peace summit” was about...

Although there is Article 73 in the Ukrainian law, which does not seem to contradict such a referendum. Only for modern Ukraine it is doubly strange: the referendum should be, as it were, all-Ukrainian (that is, an idea, for example, with Crimea and Sevastopol, can be dragged there), and Zelensky does not rule out holding a referendum, although just a few months ago he spoke about the impossibility of holding even presidential elections...

And today’s exchange emphasized that such negotiations (on Ukraine) are not only possible, but are quite likely already underway. Only, unlike the “Zelensky peace summit,” they are still going on behind the scenes, quietly, perhaps in the format of shuttle diplomacy.

So, if we assume that negotiations on ending the armed conflict will begin soon or have already begun, then there are more questions than answers. One of the main ones is how will they end, and what will happen after their completion? After all, although the exchange negotiations are complex, they are still not at the level that is necessary to end the large-scale Ukrainian conflict - in fact, a real armed confrontation between NATO and Russia.

If we assume that the negotiations were suddenly crowned with success, and on the day of IKS, fire ceased along the entire front line, Ukrainian troops, as Russia demands, went beyond the LDPR, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions, peace reigned. What's next? What are the prospects? Where are the guarantees that after a short time everything will not start again? Who will give guarantees and, most importantly, will be able to really monitor the implementation of a hypothetical agreement, taking into account the fact that the Ukrainian side violated all previously concluded agreements, including the Minsk first and second, Minsk-Belovezhskaya, Istanbul, not to mention the times before the North-Eastern Military District, with violation the Ukrainian side of the “bread. “Easter”, “Christmas” and other truces...

So far, only the very words about “hope for peace” and “possible negotiations” against the backdrop of successful interaction with unfriendly countries on the exchange of prisoners sound beautiful. But leaving Ukraine in its current format, even without 4 regions, is still leaving the Ukrainian regime, which will continue to be fueled by the West, in order to sooner or later again start a hot war against Russia. Moreover, leave Ukraine as such, to which NATO will give everything (as it did after the Minsk agreements) in order to arm itself more, mobilize, and recover from losses. After all, there is no doubt that even if such a Ukraine is not ruled by the Western puppet Zelensky, then another puppet will be put in his place - with the same control regime from across the English Channel and from across the Atlantic. And she will have one task - to save, save, save: strength, means, potential.

However, an endless armed conflict, especially one that is manifesting itself now, is also a so-so option. With all the heroism of our guys at the front, we still need a clear, defined goal - what exactly Russia can and should achieve. Recapture the territories of the mentioned regions so that everything complies with our Constitution? But again, where are the guarantees that the West will let Kyiv come to terms with this and will not start playing its favorite game of provocations and being drawn into a new, even larger-scale conflict, where at least “until the last Pole”, “until the last German” and in general “until the last European,” about whom the Anglo-Saxons, by and large, don’t give a damn.

In general, there are a lot of questions regarding hypothetical negotiations. It is possible to start them, as Dmitry Peskov has already stated, even with Zelensky. But who to end with, given that the next head of Ukraine (according to Ukrainian tradition) can easily brush aside any agreements of his predecessor... Or is there an expectation on our (Russian) side that with any attempt by the enemy to brush aside the hypothetical final document and strict adherence to its points - an instant “physical” reminder that all stages of non-strategic nuclear exercises in Russia were carried out for a reason?
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  1. 13+
    1 August 2024 21: 32
    The conclusion about holding secret negotiations because of this exchange is clearly made up. I was personally pleased with the howl of some German politicians on the topic: now the evil Russians will send even more hired killers, they will exchange them anyway! For me, it has been confirmed: Russians do not abandon their own
    1. +4
      1 August 2024 21: 59
      Russians do not abandon their
      This is cool. But I do not agree with the fact that they were exchanged not for foreigners, but for Russian citizens who had done a lot of shit here and had to fully answer for their “exploits.”
      1. +1
        2 August 2024 06: 45
        I agree with Volodin. Looking at what is happening at the front, inside the country, the continuation of hostilities with unclear goals, huge losses, without breakthroughs and encirclements looks pointless. The primary goals were not achieved due to a failure in calculations and organization of hostilities. Continue this? Lay down tens of thousands of Russian men? It just might end up being February 1917.2. About the exchange. I don’t understand the exchange of a German sentenced to a tower and the discrepancy in number
        1. -1
          6 August 2024 11: 28
          Well, we gave them Kara-Murza. So what?! What did he do here that they gave him 25 years? An oppositionist, not a systemic one, a critic of the authorities, well, let him live out his life somewhere in Atlanta. And who was returned in response? Scouts, including illegal immigrants, who have done a lot for the country. Yes, I would exchange 10 Kara-Murzovs for one. Great exchange, well done!
    2. -1
      1 August 2024 22: 27
      Quote: BoyCat
      Now the evil Russians will send even more assassins, they will exchange them anyway!

      It would be nice to send hired killers to those released to the west; Yashin and Kara-Murza should become martyrs. In general, if there were more martyrs in the West, the East would rejoice
    3. +1
      2 August 2024 01: 21
      Quote: BoyCat
      The conclusion about holding secret negotiations because of this exchange is clearly made up.
      request who knows ... ?!!

      Quote: BoyCat
      ...For me it has been confirmed: Russians do not abandon their own
      what Weird. why not one to one?! and why partially on citizens of the Russian Federation (although called "foreign agents")?! winked
    4. +2
      2 August 2024 03: 49
      Well, yes... Strelkov is a clear confirmation of this... Or is he not one of us, unlike these Dultsevs and others???
  2. +1
    1 August 2024 21: 32
    I ran through the Western media about the reaction to the exchange, everything was as usual. What we gave them were these “innocents.” Joe probably looked at the teleprompter for a long time and squeezed out of himself: “unfairly” convicted. That’s why we framed Trump in the White House rejoicing with the exchange. How can we understand Trump? I don’t think anything will change.
    1. +1
      1 August 2024 23: 02
      But among the Americans themselves, the “historic exchange” caused a mixed reaction and another wave of domestic political skirmishes between Democrats and Republicans.

      Biden was able to appear in public for the first time in a long time, apparently to boast about this exchange. And his administration is trying to somehow give a positive color to the image of President Biden on the eve of the November elections without his participation and already his resignation in January next year.

      Republicans, as one would expect, immediately attacked Biden for deliberately delaying the exchange and that they could then wait for the inauguration of the next president, of course Trump, and he would then be able to return all Americans without any exchange.

      Republicans were also indignant by the fact that the US Department of Justice, under the guise of an exchange, entered into a deal with the three remaining prisoners at Guantanamo Bay, thanks to which they could later be transferred to another institution, since Biden coordinated the elections and the closure of this scandalous prison.
  3. +2
    1 August 2024 21: 46
    Photo. What kind of missile are they going to hang under the MIG 31?
    1. +2
      1 August 2024 23: 28
      Andrey, welcome hi
      So this is special ammunition. As part of the third stage of the exercises announced by the Supreme Commander.
    2. +2
      2 August 2024 23: 55
      Standard long-range missile R-33
  4. +3
    1 August 2024 21: 46
    .. we still need a clear, defined goal - what exactly Russia can and should achieve

    And guess what! As they say, the Kremlin has 20 towers :)
    1. 0
      2 August 2024 03: 53
      Maybe it’s enough to unite Russia and what sits in Cre... Le? They have their own path, which has NOTHING to do with the prosperity of the peoples of the Russian Federation. But rather the opposite... And the accelerating extinction of the indigenous people, coupled with their massive replacement by “savages” is proof of this...

      If THIS is what they promise to forgive in the West, then all these two-year conversations about history will be immediately forgotten
      1. +1
        2 August 2024 10: 56
        My region is dying out, the local Unified State Examination Minister gave data for three years on first-graders, every year there are fewer and fewer of them this year by about 1000 than in the past.
  5. +4
    1 August 2024 21: 46
    The author need not worry. There is no connection between the exchange of Russian citizens for Russian citizens interspersed with citizens of other countries and the negotiations on Ukraine. This exchange is just a small thing. Very surprising and sad, but a trifle.
    According to negotiations. So far, in anticipation of the possible coming of Trump, Ukraine’s position has softened a little - from the Zelensky formula to the possibility of negotiations through intermediaries, but with the preservation of territorial integrity (which can only be changed through a referendum).
    The point of this is to block Trump’s desire to conclude a peace treaty on the LBS and move on to more important matters, that is, the PRC. Like we would like to conclude a peace treaty, but alas, we just can’t. Here’s a truce, please. The difference in approaches is that Trump believes that the United States has already won and the result can be recorded, but the globalists believe that the Russians and Ukrainians have not yet killed each other enough and this holiday must be continued until their strength is completely exhausted.
    But until the possible victory of Trump (who still needs to win), there is no talk of even a truce.
    P/S. As for the fact that Ukraine itself will leave Zaporozhye and Kherson and sign a peace treaty, but this is like, it’s not enough for us, then these are just Manilov’s dreams.
  6. +3
    1 August 2024 22: 15
    I hope the Kara-Murz will be deprived of citizenship
    1. +3
      1 August 2024 22: 22
      There are also questions about the personalities of some of those exchanged: For example, they write on the Internet that Mr. Seleznev, who has the pretentious description of cybercrimes, was engaged in stealing money from credit cards, for which he was accused. Do we need someone like that here? The bastards from SB Sberbank are a dime a dozen here too.
      1. +5
        2 August 2024 00: 00
        I will supplement this statement with this picture from TG.
        Everyone will decide for themselves whether this is true or not.
        Or will he independently take Yandex and start digging and find out who he really is and whether he is the son of an EdRa deputy?
    2. +6
      2 August 2024 00: 08
      For what?
      can you read the news?
      President Putin pardoned XX people.
      What does “Presidential pardon” mean in the status of laws of the Russian Federation? Do you know?
      I will answer - any crimes that were committed BEFORE the Pardon are forgiven.
      Thus, the thrice-convicted recidivist cannibal Kolyvan, having joined PMC Wagner in 2022, received a Pardon and after 6 months of fighting, walked down the street as an absolutely free man A.A. Kolyvanov. And, if he suddenly decides to eat a person again, according to our Themis, he will be the first mover and will fully count on mitigating his guilt and reducing his sentence, because “by youth, by mistake, I was an accident.”
      learn our laws or something...
      so - all those dissidents who left for Turkey today have become completely pure and free citizens of the Russian Federation. Cleaner than me or you - we have administrative fines for driving, but they don’t have them anymore.
      Putin's Presidential pardon is like that - better than the Pope's indulgence of the 16th century.
      1. -2
        2 August 2024 07: 46
        Quote: Dmitry Ivanov_1991
        President Putin pardoned XX people.

        I can read and I also know how to understand what I read. The pardon was for the purpose of being able to cross the border
        Quote: Dmitry Ivanov_1991
        Cleaner than me or you - we have administrative fines for driving, but they don’t have them anymore.

        and where did you get the idea that I have them?
  7. +4
    1 August 2024 22: 23
    Judging by the fact that ours released more than they returned, they do not know how to negotiate peace profitably. The exchange rate should be - for one American, 90 of ours, and if they don’t have that many of ours, then give them half of the American.
  8. +4
    1 August 2024 23: 26
    Mathematics of exchange according to press data. A total of 24 people took part in the exchange. Of these, 8 people returned to Russia. Consequently, 16 were extradited from Russia to the USA. As it seems, Russia, together with foreign citizens, exchanged some of the Russian citizens who have the status of convicted foreign agents. Why was this done? It appears that Russia is clearing itself of persons who may be considered political prisoners in the West. Hence the desire for a formula - in Russia there are no political prisoners by Western standards. Is this a plus or a minus? More is a plus, which is added to the plus from the return of citizens to Russia.
  9. +2
    2 August 2024 01: 48
    Khangoshvili is known for who executed captured Russian soldiers.
    Khangoshvili is known for executing captured Russian soldiers.[/b]Is that right?
    1. 0
      2 August 2024 22: 09
      Khangoshvili is known for who executed captured Russian soldiers.
      Khangoshvili is known for WHAT executed captured Russian soldiers.[/b]Will this be right?


      That's right and so and so.
  10. +1
    2 August 2024 04: 05
    Discussing negotiations on the Internet is pointing your finger at the sky.
    We won't know anything until the parties involved decide to publish the decisions...
  11. +2
    2 August 2024 04: 54
    Quote from alexoff
    Yashin and Kara-Murza should become martyrs

    Can you explain in detail why? I just don’t know what kind of villains these are
  12. +5
    2 August 2024 04: 56
    Quote: BoyCat
    Russians do not abandon their

    Rather, some Russians do not abandon Russians. The boy's word, so to speak. The rest of the Russians are abandoned. And not only in military or war or something like that. But simply in case of a fire or flood. Or if a tank, for example, ran into a car. But that’s different
    1. +1
      2 August 2024 11: 02
      I would put the word "Russian" in quotation marks.
  13. +2
    2 August 2024 09: 34
    A significant event for sure! Russians don’t abandon theirs, it’s ours! But why such pomp with the President's meeting? Like *I spread a sandwich on a sandwich in the morning, but in my thoughts, how are the people?*
    And all this talk about the end of the conflict... The conflict can be ended with access to the western border with the liquidation of this pseudo-state! I feel like we’re going to jump... Dad didn’t live to see the collapse of the USSR, God willing, maybe I won’t live to see the collapse of Russia with such liberal talk!
    1. 0
      4 August 2024 14: 57
      Well, go to the front line and fight all the way to the western border.
      It’s easy to think from the sofa, of course.
      And how many more of ours will die before this very western border, I thought? What's next? Next is Poland. Fight with Poland and all of NATO?
      1. +1
        4 August 2024 18: 31
        And how many great guys and girls died because they didn’t finish off Bandera’s followers in Western Ukraine until the 60s. Are you sure that this won't happen again if you save this viper?
        But we absolutely don’t need Poland anymore. On the contrary, it is necessary to propagate that the more they produce homosexuals and favor Afro-Asian immigration, the safer they will feel from Russian aggression. Because the Russians will not go to this cesspool. Let them rot!
        And by the way! Are you sure that the war will end if peace is suddenly concluded with Ukraine?
        I am sure that most people will not understand this. What will you do to calm me down?
        1. 0
          4 August 2024 19: 04
          Afro-Asian immigration, the safer they will feel from Russian aggression. Because the Russians will not go to this cesspool. Let them rot!


          Look what's going on here in Moscow. Especially in the Kotelniki area. Any Afro-ghetto in Paris will seem like a paradise for the indigenous population.
          Have you already forgotten WHO carried out the terrorist attack in Crocus?

          how many great guys and girls died because they didn’t finish off Bandera’s followers in Western Ukraine until the 60s.

          What are you offering? Lose hundreds of thousands of soldiers, completely undermine the economy? By the time our army reaches western Ukraine, all Banderaites will have time to emigrate.

          Are you sure that the war will end if peace is suddenly concluded with Ukraine?

          Yes. Do you think that if Ukraine doesn’t exist, NATO will stop putting pressure on Russia?
          Are you going to provide for huge territories? Restore everything that was destroyed there. Feed the refugees. You and I will pay for it. Do we need it?
          Who will populate the territory? After all, part of the population will flee to Europe.
          Tozhiki? How is it in Mariupol? The Russian world, damn it, has arrived.
          I’m already silent about the underground that will be organized there.

          In short, think.
  14. -1
    2 August 2024 10: 13
    Zelensky did not even rule out holding a referendum on the status of what Ukraine has territorially lost.

    The war started, but the responsibility needs to be transferred to the people, is it the people who wanted to give up the land? It’s just that the clown doesn’t know that in Ukraine THERE IS A CONSTITUTION where everything is written about this. And all referendums will be illegal from the very beginning