Underwater novelties of the Celestial Empire

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At one time (in the 30s of the last century), competition between the imperial army and the imperial fleet determined the vector of Japan's external expansion. Having tried their hand at Lake Khasan and Khalkhin Gol, the Japanese decided that fighting at sea with the Anglo-Saxons was more profitable than breaking spears with the Red Army and its allies in the vastness of China and Mongolia.

For a self-respecting Chinese, comparison with Japanese militarists is extremely insulting, but... The fact that the PRC today is investing enormous amounts of money and effort in building up its naval power also quite clearly shows that the Chinese see the Americans as their enemy...



Underwater novelties of the Celestial Empire
What motivates the PLA Navy's "non-nuclear" submarine? A mystery wrapped in a secret...

Particular attention should be paid to the development of the submarine forces of the PLA Navy, and most importantly, their non-nuclear component.

The fact is that in terms of building submarines with a nuclear power plant, our southern neighbors are quite far behind both the Russian Navy and the US Navy. The same can be said about diesel-electric submarines. However, at present, technologies that are unconventional in underwater shipbuilding are being developed, which enable the PRC to get ahead, at least in this matter. We are talking about the so-called “Stirling engines”...


Reverend Robert Stirling

It’s hard to call this technology new. Reverend Robert Stirling (who worked as a priest in Scotland) patented his vision of heat engines more than two hundred years ago - in 1816. This advanced and good shepherd proposed, as a replacement for steam engines, which at that time often exploded, killed and maimed drivers and stokers, a design that generated energy by heating and cooling the working fluid in a cylinder.

The Stirling machine had a number of advantages: it was quieter, safer, more economical, had a longer service life, but... It had low efficiency and required the use of massive cooling radiators, and as a working fluid - such expensive and rare (at the time of development) chemical elements, like hydrogen or helium. As a result, at that time it didn’t work out.

But times are changing, and in the 1816st century, submarine designers paid attention to Stirling engines. Here, the disadvantages of the Stirlings have become less noticeable (cooling radiators on submarines work perfectly on sea water, which means they are much smaller than on land, and hydrogen and helium have become much more accessible than in XNUMX), but the advantages ... The Stirling engine is much quieter than any internal combustion engine, and for a submarine, low noise is one of the main characteristics! Yes, both efficiency and increased resource will not be superfluous.


Gotland class submarine – Scandinavian design!

In general, the Swedes took the first step in this direction. In 1988, the Swedish Nakken-class submarine received the first Stirling. And those commissioned in 1996–1997. Three Gotland-class submarines became the first production boats equipped with this type of air-independent power plant. But Sweden is not serious! Because then the PLA Navy began experimenting with Stirlings, and China is on a completely different scale!

True, one can only judge the real state of affairs in the Chinese fleet very approximately - give or take a bast shoe: everything is in order with the secrecy regime in the PRC. Therefore, we can only reason on the basis of data from open sources, mostly Western ones. For example, Thomas Newdick from the Warzone project analyzes satellite images of the Wuchang shipyard in Wuhan. In the photographs you can make out a submarine standing on the slipway.

Project 039A submarines are being built at this shipyard, but the new building has clear differences from this project. Thus, the author points out that the boat is significantly longer than the Project 039A submarines, and also has newfangled (and not yet seen in the PLA Navy) x-shaped rudders. The author estimates that the submarine is approximately 82,4–94,5 meters (272–279 ft) long, versus 76,7 meters (253 ft) for Project 039A.


Project 613 submarine – Soviet roots of the Chinese submarine...

It's worth making a digression here.

Initially, the submarine forces of the PLA Navy were built on the basis of submarines of Soviet designs. At first these were boats of Project 613 (in China - type 03) - a Soviet version of the German XXI series, which did not have time to enter service en masse by May 9, 1945. Subsequently, they were replaced by diesel-electric submarines of Project 633 (033 “Wuhan” according to the Chinese classification). The Chinese reworking of this project became known as Type 035 “Ming”. Finally, the first independent development of Chinese engineers was the Type 039 Song submarines...


The Hangor submarine is an export (for the Pakistani Navy) version of the Chinese Type 039 submarine

The new boat (the first copy was launched in 1999) had a teardrop-shaped hull with a rubber coating, engines mounted on rubber shock absorbers... However, the first pancake, apparently, turned out to be lumpy - only one submarine was built according to the original drawings.

The main series of seven submarines, designated 039G, was significantly improved. How? You can only judge by the shape of the felling fence - the Chinese know how to keep military secrets. Well, because the tests of the first option were long and painful. The next version of the project, type 039A, does not have horizontal rudders. But... All these boats, apparently, are diesel-electric.

But in 2023, there were reports that the PRC had created the world's most powerful Stirling engine. They write that the engine produced a power of 102 kW, breaking the 100-watt mark for the first time. The engine uses helium at a pressure of 15 MPa as the working fluid. Professor Hu Jianying notes that the efficiency of thermoelectric conversion was 28% at a working fluid temperature of 523 degrees Celsius, and if the temperature can be raised to 600 degrees, then the efficiency will increase to 34 percent.


Type 039G submarine at the pier. Stirling or diesel?

The Chinese have already tested their “Stirling” at their own orbital station, which means... It’s more expensive to launch an untested design into space - the price of a kilogram of cargo launched into orbit is stinging. Therefore, there is talk that the next generation of submarines, tentatively designated as type 039C, will have a Stirling engine. Or maybe it has already been installed - on existing submarines of type 039 - should the Chinese have somehow brought to life the engine that was launched into space?


VLS cells are one of the payload options for Type 039 submarines

However, it is possible that the lengthening of the hull of the new PLA Navy submarine seen on satellite images is associated with the installation of another newfangled device on it - vertical missile launch cells (VLS). Such cells are found on the last of the Israeli Dolphin II-class submarines, the Dragon. Engineers from South Korea are also experimenting with VLS cells, having placed six cells for launching SLBM ballistic missiles on their submarine Dosan Angh Changho (but cruise missiles can also be loaded into them).


Submarine "Soryu" - lithium-ion samurai...

But there are other options for using the additional volume obtained by lengthening the submarine’s hull. Thus, the Japanese, on their Soryu-type boats, are experimenting with using lithium-ion batteries as a battery. It is possible that an additional compartment in the Chinese submarine will be used for these batteries, which will significantly increase the life of the boat under water. Or to accommodate reconnaissance equipment or underwater saboteurs.

The easiest way is with x-shaped rudders: it is believed that they improve the maneuverability of the submarine and also reduce its noise. It is worth noting that Chinese submarines have very mediocre characteristics in terms of noise, therefore, most likely, the use of such rudders, previously uncharacteristic of Chinese-built submarines, is aimed specifically at improving this characteristic. The same goes for using a Stirling engine instead of a traditional diesel engine.


If there were shipyards, there would be boats!

Vysotsky sang “I hate gossip in the form of versions.” Considering the exemplary secrecy regime in the PLA Navy, all that can be extracted from satellite images of the new submarine is the same gossip in the form of versions. It is not even known whether a new type of submarine was captured by a curious satellite, or whether this is another modernization of type 039 with the next letter after the numbers.

One thing can be said with enviable accuracy - the PRC is paying increased attention to the development of its naval forces. Each of the 13 Chinese shipyards is now more powerful than all American shipyards combined. It is clear that most of them build merchant ships to ensure the functioning of trade in the first economy of the world, but...

There is not the slightest doubt that, if necessary, the PRC will be able to bake warships like hot cakes. Their quality today, to put it mildly... cannot be called a masterpiece. But there is no quality that cannot be overwhelmed by quantity. And the PLA Navy will have no problems with this!
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  1. +5
    3 August 2024 05: 54
    The Chinese have already tested their “Stirling” at their own orbital station, which means... It’s more expensive to launch an untested design into space - the price of a kilogram of cargo launched into orbit is stinging. Therefore, there is talk that the next generation of submarines, tentatively designated as type 039C, will have a Stirling engine.

    The maximum power required at an orbital station is unlikely to exceed tens of kilowatts. The minimum power for a submarine (unless the "stirling" on the submarine is used to recharge the crew's gadgets) is hundreds of kilowatts. Therefore, these engines are probably different.
    Actually, “Stirling” is one of the mechanical devices for converting thermal energy into reciprocating mechanical energy (or by adding a small “lotion” to rotational energy). In another way, such engines are called “External Combustion Engines”, because heating of the working fluid occurs from an external source (in contrast to “Internal Combustion Engines”). But very fashionable among VNEU supporters.
    1. +1
      3 August 2024 15: 16
      Yes, the power at the orbital station is probably less, but the principle... Stirling for space in any case required running-in...
      1. +3
        3 August 2024 17: 29
        but the principle...

        In principle (and even according to the enlarged block diagram), an ordinary electric scooter is no different from the Japanese battery-powered submarine of the Soryu type. But no one will test the electric motor from a submarine on a scooter, or the control circuit of an electric scooter motor on a submarine.
  2. +3
    3 August 2024 06: 13
    The Chinese have already tested their “Stirling” at their own orbital station, which means... It’s more expensive to launch an untested design into space - the price of a kilogram of cargo launched into orbit is stinging.
    And before that, the Chinese tested an EmDrive type engine in space. They even launched a special satellite with it. Although at that time it was already known that this was a pseudoscientific charlatan device that violated the law of conservation of momentum (just as “perpetual motion machines” violate the law of conservation of energy). But despite everything, in laboratory experiments it gave some kind of traction...

    It all ended quite predictably: the Chinese proved that this concept does not work at all. They just proved this not in space, but on Earth, in the laboratory: they found a flaw in the electrical circuit, due to which the appearance of thrust appeared.
    1. +1
      3 August 2024 15: 18
      Well, Stirling’s scheme works... But if it didn’t work in the 19th century, then there are more disadvantages than advantages...
  3. +10
    3 August 2024 06: 33
    The same goes for using a Stirling engine instead of a traditional diesel engine.
    Stirling can not replace diesel! They work in pairs. On each boats with Stirling also have diesel engines.

    The diesel engine provides battery charging, movement on the surface and movement under the RDP. And stirling is movement in a submerged position at low speed (from 102 kW = 138 hp you should not expect huge speeds).

    The advantage of stirling is air independence. Diesel needs atmospheric air. Stirling can operate from any temperature difference. As a rule, it is created by burning ordinary boat diesel fuel (or, possibly, another separate fuel - for example, special kerosene) in liquid oxygen. Yes, Each Stirling boat has to carry a tank of liquid oxygen. But the boat may not float to the surface (even under the RDP) for as long as 2-3 weeks. Underwater autonomy is limited by the supply of liquid oxygen and, as a rule, amounts to 20-35% of the total autonomy of the boat, i.e. Stirling is included in the critical phase of the campaign: penetration into the area where enemy anti-aircraft defense is most active.

    Why not just power the diesel with liquid oxygen? They already tried it in the 20th century, but it turned out so-so. Diesel is an engine internal combustion, and stirling - external combustion. With Stirling, it is easier to ensure the tightness of the combustion chamber and prevent exhaust gases from entering the compartments. In addition, Stirling is less noisy. But when driving on electric motors from the battery - noise even less than even from Stirling (this “traditional” mode is turned on at a very, very crucial moment of the campaign: sneaking up or evading PLO). But this way the boat can survive without surfacing for a maximum of several days if the batteries are lead-acid. But if they are lithium-ion, then longer. So much so that you can try to do without stirling (the Japanese are trying).
    1. +1
      3 August 2024 10: 14
      So much so that you can try to do without stirling (the Japanese are trying).

      They try. But the boat turns out to be 20 percent more expensive than with Stirlings, and the batteries need to be pre-charged, but Stirlings can be used at any time - different tactics of use.
    2. +1
      3 August 2024 15: 19
      Previously, we experimented with a Walter turbine using hydrogen peroxide; in my opinion, peroxide is much more convenient to store than liquid oxygen...
      1. +1
        3 August 2024 17: 14
        Quote: Flying_Dutchman
        Previously, we experimented with a Walter turbine using hydrogen peroxide; in my opinion, peroxide is much more convenient to store than liquid oxygen...

        If sclerosis serves me right, peroxide is more aggressive than just oxygen.
        1. +2
          3 August 2024 17: 53
          This is true, but it does not require cryogenic storage tanks...
        2. +1
          3 August 2024 18: 54
          If sclerosis serves me right, peroxide is more aggressive than just oxygen.

          Oxygen and oil are also a couple.........
          1. +1
            3 August 2024 18: 56
            Quote: ziqzaq
            Oxygen and oil are also a couple.........

            Yes, who would argue.
        3. 0
          10 September 2024 15: 17
          Peroxide is generally a single-component fuel, it was used in the first rockets in gas generators with a displacement system
  4. -1
    3 August 2024 10: 01
    "...Or for placing reconnaissance equipment, or underwater saboteurs." "Or maybe a cow, or maybe... a hippopotamus!"
  5. +5
    3 August 2024 10: 10
    They write that the engine produced a power of 102 kW, breaking the 100-watt mark for the first time.

    Watts and kilowatts are a big difference.
    From the text of the article it is clear that the author mistakenly thinks that the Stirling engine is installed instead of traditional diesel engines, but this is not so - it is installed together with diesel engines in addition to them. Stirling engines are low power and designed to provide quiet running while submerged and are not a substitute for diesel engines.
    For example, the Swedish Gotlands mentioned in the article have diesel engines and Stirling engines, while
    The boats are equipped with two 16-cylinder diesel engines MTU 16V-396 (2980 l. from.) or two Hedemora V12A/15-Ub diesel generators (3600 l. from.) supplying current to electric motors that transmit power of 1800 hp to the propeller shafts. With.

    And installed in addition to diesel engines, 2 Stirling engines Kockums v4-275R Mk III have a power of only 204 hp
    While submerged, the AIP Stirling engine system built by Kockums is used to drive a 75 kilowatt (101 hp) generator for propulsion or battery charging.

    In this regard, German submarines using fuel cells are in a better position, since they provide greater speed if necessary. Gotland needs to use batteries for greater underwater travel.
  6. +2
    3 August 2024 12: 19
    Thanks first!
    Now to the performance test
    (at the time of development) chemical elements like hydrogen or helium

    If I'm not mistaken, helium was discovered in 1886. And through a telescope during a solar eclipse.
    So, in principle, Stirling was not aware of this substance.
    hi
    1. 0
      3 August 2024 15: 21
      Well, there was hydrogen! However, why not use nitrogen or carbon dioxide? I'm a chemist, not good at physics...
      1. +2
        3 August 2024 22: 16
        Quote: Flying_Dutchman
        I'm a chemist, not good at physics...

        And I am a sailor, so (with your permission) a couple of lines on the topic.
        1. Thanks for the article. It's quite suitable for a "chemist". But for a submariner, there are some nuances. Which we will stop at.
        2. Your statement that “Sweden is not serious” is clearly incorrect. I dare say: seriously and even very much. Especially the new project of the A26 type missile submarine, of which there are 4 units. Poland has already (!) ordered. And the gentlemen are now striving to buy the best that is on the arms market.
        3. The Chinese were not “following the Swedes” in terms of using DS for scuba diving. The Japanese came next, and then the South Koreans. Now they are at the forefront of the “electric” direction of submarines. They don't experiment with Soryu. Based on it, they developed a new project 29SS (Taigei-type NS), removing the DS, and redesigned the freed-up volume and allocated it for a high-capacity LIAB. The South Koreans did the same. But, unlike the Japanese, they did not remove the DS from the new KSS-III type NS.
        4. My colleagues told me everything about DS quite professionally. But I would like to note that during the experiment, the Germans already installed a “bundle” of DS with a power of 600 kW on their NSs.
        5. The additional compartment will, of course, be used for the “payload”. And the LIAB kit will be placed in the hold to increase the stability of the NS. These are the laws of shipbuilding: you need to fight for a greater metacentric height of the ship.
        6. Well, I was struck by the author’s very bold statement that “any of the 13 Chinese shipyards today is more powerful than ALL American shipyards TAKEN TOGETHER” (!?)
        Oh my! Maybe you could still cut the sturgeon in half? laughing
  7. 0
    4 August 2024 17: 53
    Professor Hu Jianying notes that the efficiency of thermoelectric conversion was 28% at a working fluid temperature of 523 degrees Celsius, and if the temperature can be raised to 600 degrees, then the efficiency will increase to 34 percent.

    And how does this relate to stirlings and submarines?
  8. +1
    5 August 2024 07: 51
    Thanks for the article, interesting. Question about Sweden and its frivolity...

    “During a NATO exercise, a US Navy carrier strike group was defeated by a single Swedish Navy submarine. A $100 million submarine dealt with a group of ships worth tens of billions.

    The incident occurred during a NATO naval exercise in 2005. The Americans' task was to track and destroy the Swedish submarine. For this purpose, a powerful aircraft carrier strike group was put forward, led by the ship Ronald Reagan. For American sailors, the exercise should have been a cakewalk, but it turned out to be a terrible shame. The Swedish submarine was able not only to hide from the radars of US ships, but also to completely destroy the entire strike group.

    It turned out that the Americans underestimated the capabilities of the submarine and searched for it, relying solely on data from conventional locators. US ships used underwater sonar and submarine engine noise locators. But the design features of the Swedish submarine allowed it to easily avoid these means."(c)
  9. 0
    26 August 2024 23: 52
    Well, let's just say that Stirling is quieter than a diesel engine, but much louder than an electric motor, which can be noisy anyway.
    The Stirling improves visual stealth, but for a submarine today this is catastrophically low.
    I believe that this is a dead-end path for the development of power plants for submarines.
    1. 0
      24 September 2024 23: 34
      The Stirling itself is low-power, but if you combine the cycle into a "diesel-Stirling", you can significantly increase the efficiency and power - this is for piston engines and, preferably, not with a crank mechanism. And if this principle is implemented on a rotary engine, then we will also get quiet operation at the level of an electric motor. And it is better to feed the engine with heat from a heat accumulator, which can be recharged from the same diesel engine much faster than lithium-ion batteries. I think it is too early to bury it.
      1. 0
        25 September 2024 01: 33
        Diesel under water, yes, it will "scream" not only throughout the Atlantic, but also throughout the Pacific Ocean.
        1. 0
          25 September 2024 02: 35
          Diesel "screams" if the cycle is open, in a closed cycle it "whispers".