North Korea for Russia: rumors about the Pulse-4 missile system in the Russian army

103
North Korea for Russia: rumors about the Pulse-4 missile system in the Russian army
Presumably, the Pulse-4 complex belonging to the Russian army


The topic of military-technical cooperation between Russia and the DPRK attracts attention and becomes the basis for the emergence of various rumors. Previously, possible deliveries of North Korean ammunition and operational-tactical missile complexes. Now, the tactical self-propelled missile system "Pulse-4" is mentioned in a similar context.



Single frame


Rumors about Russian-Korean contracts for the supply of various weapons and ammunition appeared last fall. The reason for them was the official visit of the head of the DPRK Kim Jong-un to Russia. Foreign media, citing their sources, claimed that the purpose of the visit was negotiations on future supplies.

Unnamed sources then claimed that the Russian army had depleted its reserves and wanted to replenish them with North Korean products. For example, the possibility of purchasing anti-tank missile systems of the Pulse (Phoenix) series was mentioned.

In the spring of 2024, Ukrainian resources began to report that the Russian army had allegedly received and was using North Korean-made anti-tank systems. At the same time, worthy evidence, as always happens, was not provided.


Approach of an unknown type of missile to an AS-90 self-propelled gun

In the last days of July, new rumors appeared about North Korean weapons in the Russian army. A photograph taken by a Ukrainian reconnaissance UAV in the area of ​​the city of Volchansk in the Kharkov direction was distributed among specialized resources. It showed a combat vehicle that differed from Russian-made equipment.

The quality of the photo does not allow us to unambiguously determine the type of object, but you can see its main features and characteristics. This is a wheeled vehicle on a three-axle chassis with an elongated body. There is some kind of large superstructure on the roof of the building.

The appearance of the object, chassis design and superstructure are reminiscent of the North Korean Pulse-4 missile system. This version immediately spread across specialized resources and caused an understandable reaction. Some people consider a single frame of poor quality to be irrefutable evidence of the presence of equipment from the DPRK in the Russian army.

Possible application


The presence of Pulse-4 complexes in the Russian army has not been officially confirmed. The only anecdotal evidence is a single photo. However, unconfirmed reports of the combat use of the complexes are already appearing.


Self-propelled gun destroyed

Thematic resources recently published a short video from Russian drone-scout. He monitored the enemy AS-90 self-propelled gun and recorded its defeat by a missile. The video included the missile approaching the target, the explosion and subsequent fire with the burnout of the self-propelled gun's ammunition.

It is not specified on which part of the front this video was filmed. According to various sources, the affected self-propelled gun was located at a distance of about 10-15 km from the contact line. Range to target, missile flight characteristics, etc. led to the emergence of a version about the use of the Pulse-4 complex.

Rocket "Phoenix"


The Pulse-4 self-propelled missile system was developed in North Korea no later than the mid-2018s. It was first shown at a military parade in 2018. Abroad, this complex is known under the symbol M-XNUMX, indicating the year of the first show.

"Pulse-4" is a self-propelled armored combat vehicle with guided missile weapons. It is designed to destroy armored and other equipment, various structures, etc. targets, both in the line of sight and beyond.

The increased range characteristics do not allow Phoenix-4 to be classified as an anti-tank missile system. Conceptually, this product is closer to the latest foreign developments such as the Israeli Spike system, etc.


Pulse-4 complexes of the Korean People's Army at the parade

The missile system is built on a chassis known abroad as the M-2010. It is believed to be based on the Soviet/Russian BTR-80. The armored personnel carrier was modified and shortened, leaving only three axles. This chassis is used to accommodate various special loads and superstructures. The main driving characteristics and protection presumably remained at the level of the BTR-80.

The hull has a characteristic large armored turret. Inside it, under the lifting lid, there is a launcher for Pulse-4 missiles. The ammunition load includes eight missiles in transport and launch containers. The turret can rotate to launch missiles towards the target.

Weapon for self-defense, apparently, it is represented only by smoke grenade launchers on the forehead of the combat module, as well as personal weapons of the crew.

The Pulse-4 guided missile is of medium size. The product is made in a cylindrical body and is equipped with two sets of X-shaped planes. A solid propellant engine is used. The flight range is estimated at 10-15 km or more.

Phoenix-4 has an optical-electronic guidance system. A fiber optic cable communication system was also used with the complex. This architecture of the control system allows you to search for targets before and after launch, as well as retarget the missile in flight.


North Korean missiles of several types. On the left is the product “Pulse-4”

The missile carries a high-explosive fragmentation or cumulative warhead. Weight – at least several kilograms. Footage of the defeat of the Ukrainian self-propelled gun allows us to compare the combat qualities of the Korean product with the Russian Kornet ATGM.

Hypothetical potential


The presence of the Pulse-4 missile system in the Russian army has not yet been confirmed. A single photo of poor quality only allows us to build versions. However, we can consider the consequences of the hypothetical appearance of such equipment in service.

The Phoenix-4 product has obvious advantages. The chassis based on the BTR-80 provides high mobility and maneuverability, and also protects against bullets and shrapnel. The standard missiles of the complex have an increased launch range and are capable of operating against various targets.

The Korean model can be compared with the Russian Khrizantema and Kornet-D systems, since it performs similar functions. However, its design uses other components with different levels of performance. In a number of parameters, Pulse-4 outperforms our samples, but is inferior in others.

It is believed that Pulse-4 missiles, unlike traditional ATGMs, are capable of attacking targets beyond line of sight. The Russian army does not yet have ground-based missile systems of this kind, and therefore the Korean product may be of interest to our military.


Rocket launch

Extended-range missiles could complement existing portable and self-propelled anti-tank systems. They would become an additional tool for solving problems on the battlefield and near it. The introduction of such systems into service will increase the overall firepower and combat capabilities.

It must be recalled that our industry is currently creating the Hermes / Klevok interspecific missile system. According to known data, its version for ground forces is built on a self-propelled chassis and carries several missiles. The firing range reaches 150-200 km. In recent years, it has been reported that such a system has been tested and modified based on the experience of the Special Operations.

It is likely that the Hermes will appear in service in the near future and will significantly increase the striking power of the ground forces. However, at the moment there is no such equipment, and existing anti-tank missile systems, despite their advantages, can only hit targets at a distance of 8–10 km.

Rumors and reality


Tactical-level self-propelled missile systems with a launch range of at least 10-12 km are of obvious interest to any modern army. "Pulse-4" is no exception, and is quite capable of finding a place in the armed forces, as well as giving them the desired capabilities.

It is unknown whether there are North Korean complexes in the Russian army. So far, only one low-quality photo speaks in favor of this version. All that remains is to wait for new evidence. If Phoenix-4s really appeared in our units, then the wait won’t be long.
103 comments
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must sign in.
  1. +1
    1 August 2024 03: 59
    It is unknown whether there are North Korean complexes in the Russian army.
    This is still a military secret! soldier
    1. +4
      1 August 2024 06: 47
      In Russia, the Lancet-55 was tested, as they say, with a fiber optic link for 10 km!
      1. +32
        1 August 2024 09: 13
        That is, the DPRK, which has been considered by our authorities for the last 30 years to be a backward country, has surpassed the Russian Federation in some weapons, which received everything from a more highly developed civilization?
        1. +10
          1 August 2024 12: 57
          If you told Koreans about this 60 years ago, they would have taken you for idiots...
          1. 0
            3 August 2024 13: 55
            idiots would be accepted...

            Yes, indeed. There would definitely be a place in a psychiatric hospital.
        2. +9
          1 August 2024 21: 22
          That is, the DPRK, which has been considered by our authorities for the last 30 years to be a backward country, has surpassed the Russian Federation in some weapons, which received everything from a more highly developed civilization?
          And not only in weapons. Thus, turbines for the Bureyskaya hydroelectric power station were purchased from the DPRK back in the late 90s, since by that time both here and in Sumeria had already forgotten how to make them.
          1. -1
            3 August 2024 13: 57
            have already forgotten how.

            Sergey! How many years have we been *rising from our knees*???? What the hell is the war?
            Cutting and stealing money, that's all these twenty years of rule.
            1. +3
              3 August 2024 20: 23
              Sergey! How many years have we been *rising from our knees*???? What the hell is the war?
              Cutting and stealing money, that's all these twenty years of rule.
              Phil, this is capitalism.
              1. -1
                9 August 2024 10: 00
                Even in the states under capitalism, ten million cars are produced, and several hundred airplanes, and all the operating systems used come from there, and people on Prechistenka spend the night in queues for a new iPhone, and not in Times Square for a new iPhone. Looks like there's some kind of capitalism there
            2. -3
              4 August 2024 06: 59
              Quote: ArchiPhil
              Cutting and stealing money, that's all these twenty years of rule.

              This is called CAPITALISM!
              1. -4
                4 August 2024 13: 46
                No, we don’t have capitalism. This configuration, in which we have been floundering for four decades, has not yet been coined a term.
                1. +1
                  4 August 2024 15: 20
                  Quote: Stepnyak
                  No, we don’t have capitalism. This configuration, in which we have been floundering for four decades, has not yet been coined a term.

                  Ordinary periphery, ordinary Capitalism!
        3. +5
          4 August 2024 06: 57
          Quote: ramzay21
          That is, the DPRK, which has been considered by our authorities for the last 30 years to be a backward country, has surpassed the Russian Federation in some weapons, which received everything from a more highly developed civilization?

          So 30 years ago, China was considered a backward country, inferior to the USSR in all respects! And now it is a technologically advanced country! In some areas, it is even ahead of the USA, not to mention Europe... And all that happened was some "Tiananmen Square"... unlike us...
      2. +6
        1 August 2024 09: 49
        Does he carry optics with him for 10 km? belay
        1. +18
          1 August 2024 10: 06
          Does he carry optics with him for 10 km?

          In the 70s, ATGMs flew on a wire for a couple of kilometers. And they still fly like that. And the wire is much heavier than optical fiber. And they have been doing this for a long time all over the world, including the DPRK, which has been isolated for 30 years.
          It’s just that Chemezov, Manturov and Shoigu don’t yet know that they invented fiber optics! Well, or they don’t want to know.
          1. 0
            1 August 2024 10: 30
            Quote: ramzay21
            In the 70s, ATGMs flew on a wire for a couple of kilometers.

            I know that.
            But the fiber is brittle, and the Lancets have a “propeller in the ass”, how to pull it?
            Well, the rocket didn’t get hit by the exhaust and it’s fine, but then it gets wound up.
            1. +4
              1 August 2024 10: 37
              I can't say anything about the Lancet. But if you want, you can find a solution.
            2. +5
              1 August 2024 11: 51
              Quote: Hitriy Zhuk
              But the fiber is brittle

              You have an idea about fiber optic communication lines of the average person of the last century...
              Quote: Hitriy Zhuk
              Lancets have a “propeller in the ass”, how do you pull it?

              The Lancet-55 has engines and propellers located on the wings...
            3. +4
              1 August 2024 14: 56
              The party has thought about everything - it will fly backwards
              1. -1
                1 August 2024 15: 52
                Quote: stels_07
                The party has thought about everything - it will fly backwards

                And at night. With a transfer to the Sun. good
            4. 0
              1 August 2024 19: 01
              What if the propeller is not a pusher, but a puller?) Are you considering this option?
              1. +1
                1 August 2024 19: 06
                It seems like the Lancet is an X-wing camera in front and a propeller in the back (nowhere else).
          2. -1
            1 August 2024 17: 15
            As far as I know, optical fiber is very fragile. Or is this not critical in flight?
            1. +2
              2 August 2024 13: 49
              As far as I know, optical fiber is very fragile. Or is this not critical in flight?

              If for bending, then with a bending radius of 15mm or more, twist as you wish. As for breaking, try to break the subscriber cable with your hands. Will not work.
          3. +5
            1 August 2024 19: 11
            served in the 70s. The car had 3 ATGMs. 9m14m MALYUTKA. FLYED 3 (three) km. wired.
          4. -1
            2 August 2024 23: 28
            Quote: ramzay21
            In the 70s, ATGMs flew on a wire for a couple of kilometers. And they still fly like that. And the wire is much heavier than optical fiber.

            Ok, for 2 km, but 10 km is fiber optic! Have you seen a 10 km single core fiber reel?? Even if it remains in the car, it will be a fairly voluminous barrel and, accordingly, weigh tens of kg.
        2. +1
          2 August 2024 00: 20
          But can’t this missile pull an optical filament along the first 5-6 km, to the highest point of the trajectory and until the moment the target is detected, then the operator captures the target and confirms the targeting to this particular target? Then the thread breaks and the missile follows the commands of its seeker, for which the operator on the optical thread has already managed to select and confirm the target?
          Do you think this scheme will work?
          1. 0
            2 August 2024 21: 09
            But this rocket cannot pull an optical filament for the first 5-6 km

            Spike-NLOS generation 6 has a range of 32 km, as written on the website of Rafael and Lockheed Martin, and is also controlled via fiber optics.
            1. +1
              2 August 2024 21: 39
              Spike NLOS does not have a cable. Cable on other versions, less long-range
              1. 0
                3 August 2024 06: 13
                Spike NLOS does not have a cable.

                I haven’t fully figured it out, but you’re also wrong.
                Spike NLOS uses fiber optic communications like other versions of Spike, but only up to 8 km, after which it uses a radio transmission link to control commands.
                https://w.wiki/Apfr
        3. +1
          2 August 2024 21: 11
          Quote: Hitriy Zhuk
          Does he carry optics with him for 10 km? belay

          How do wire-guided torpedoes hit targets at a distance of 20 km?
          1. -2
            2 August 2024 21: 33
            Quote: Piramidon
            wire-controlled torpedoes

            Shouldn't a torpedo follow the sound?
            1. 0
              3 August 2024 09: 39
              Torpedoes, like PTRs, are different
        4. +1
          4 August 2024 20: 22
          What don't you like? Optical fiber is not a reel of Soviet communications cable; it is much more compact, to put it mildly. But no interference or electronic warfare will move the missile off course. For some reason, we believe that the “fire and forget” principle is the best thing that can be invented. Not at all, not always.
    2. 0
      3 August 2024 09: 28
      If this is so, then Russia has turned into a third world country. It's sad, brothers...
      1. +1
        3 August 2024 09: 50
        It's sad, brothers...

        So or so. The Russian Ambassador goes *to bow* to the head of Uzbekistan, eh? To put it mildly... they have arrived. And the DPRK is not the bottom yet. The bottom will be tentatively tomorrow.
        1. +1
          3 August 2024 09: 58
          No longer conditionally, but almost exactly. As sad as this may sound. negative
          1. +2
            3 August 2024 10: 00
            As sad as this may sound. negative
            Reply
            Quote

            Does Putin know? laughing
            1. +1
              3 August 2024 10: 01
              This is not for me, we did not serve with him, we are in different departments. wink
              1. +2
                3 August 2024 10: 03
                different

                What are the different ones??? He generally.... I don’t like to swear. But this is exactly what he led our (so far?) country to!!!
                1. +1
                  3 August 2024 10: 31
                  Well, screw it, let's talk about something good. And so sickening.
    3. 0
      11 October 2024 23: 40
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      It is unknown whether there are North Korean complexes in the Russian army.
      This is still a military secret! soldier

      Oh, these Ukies... They'll make whatever they want, even a red mullet out of plywood, just to cover someone up. They didn't mind taking a photo from afar.
      If it were real, their UAVs would have been filmed from all angles. With Korean fingerprints. wassat
  2. +1
    1 August 2024 04: 03
    Presumably, the Pulse-4 complex belonging to the Russian army
    recourse And what is she doing alone in an open field? Collecting flowers? feel
    1. +9
      1 August 2024 05: 05
      Bulsae-4 NLOS arrived, fired 6 out of 8 missiles and immediately left. Recorded in Ukrainian reconnaissance drone. Should I have waited for enemy drones?
      And separately, a video of the defeat, filmed by our drone, when the missile makes a slide and hits the British AS-90 self-propelled gun in the upper hemisphere on March 3 of this year.
    2. +17
      1 August 2024 07: 06
      I fully admit that the North Koreans are testing their equipment in real war conditions. This is the best test
      1. +7
        1 August 2024 11: 07
        It would be nice for the North Korean military to gain combat experience and for our guys to have a rest
  3. +27
    1 August 2024 04: 56
    Health and labor success to Korean engineers and workers, as well as comrade. Kim and his associates!
    1. 0
      3 August 2024 09: 53
      Kim and his associates!

      Holy shit. Guys! Where are we?
      1. 0
        11 October 2024 23: 46
        Quote: ArchiPhil
        Kim and his associates!

        Holy shit. Guys! Where are we?

        And we read about the tricks of yet another corrupt official.
  4. -8
    1 August 2024 04: 59
    the question is the launch range, if 10-12 km is not enough if the enemy has FPV drones, the concept is controversial.

    An outwardly similar vehicle based on the Brdm-2 with anti-tank systems was in service with the USSR, it is clear that there were the first versions of anti-tank systems, now everything is more advanced
    1. +6
      1 August 2024 05: 22
      10-12km is not enough

      They write that the maximum range is 25 km. Control via fiber optic cable means electronic warfare is not a hindrance. 25 km cable is certainly interesting. Maybe they borrowed a copy or technology from their neighbors, the South Koreans bought Spike from the Jews (like 15 km, but I don’t remember exactly) and then they themselves developed and launched production of an analogue (the company LIG1Next), but they were guided by GPS and satellite communications. Although they may also have used optical fiber.
      1. +2
        1 August 2024 06: 39
        Quote: smart fellow
        They write that the maximum range is 25 km

        This is "a matter of two minds"! Usually they write: 10-25 km or 15-25 km... So... there is a "choice"! More or less mastered ranges on fiber-optic communication lines of 10-15 km... 25-30 km is already more "problematic"! Although developments were carried out... the Serbs, for example, "boast" of their missile with a fiber-optic communication line of 25 km!
        1. +2
          1 August 2024 08: 18
          "boast"

          Because the complex has not previously been supplied abroad, then the indicated range is 25 km according to information from the DPRK. The fact that the rocket can fly 25 km is not surprising, and the range depends on the length of the cable. If the Koreans produce rockets, they can probably measure the length of the cable.
          The missiles were first shown in 2016 and were mounted on helicopters. In 2018, the ground mobile complex was shown at the parade.
          "Lancet-55" judging by the photo (at overlockers.com) has a pair of intertwined wires (apparently optical fiber) and, according to the manufacturer, ZALA, is completely protected from electronic warfare. Developed in December 2023.
        2. -1
          1 August 2024 12: 29
          Whether this is true or not, we will find out when the Serbs sell it to Ukraine.
    2. +2
      1 August 2024 06: 43
      Quote: Graz
      the question is the launch range, if 10-12 km is not enough if the enemy has FPV drones, the concept is controversial.

      Self-propelled ATGMs with 3rd generation ATGMs being developed in Russia are designed for 15 km!
    3. +1
      2 August 2024 14: 15
      Quote: Graz
      the question is the launch range, if 10-12 km is not enough if the enemy has FPV drones, the concept is controversial.

      But Leopards and Bradley will not be able to work in their direct shot zone with impunity.
  5. +3
    1 August 2024 05: 51
    Yes, if this is so, then who cares that Russia is armed with products from another country???
  6. +15
    1 August 2024 07: 25
    I don’t understand why hide supplies from Kim? There they brag about this and all the participants are just proud that they help, but with us it’s all hustle and bustle. Show how it hits, how the scraps fly away, name the model and manufacturer with your head held high. It's time to break the mentality of a slave before a Western master.
    1. The comment was deleted.
  7. +13
    1 August 2024 07: 26
    North Korea has passed us by. Tell someone in the USSR, they will twist your finger at your temple. Thanks to Comrade Shoigu. By the way, where is he now, on vacation, in the bank, with his suedes.
    1. +19
      1 August 2024 07: 38
      Quote: Plowman
      North Korea has passed us by. Tell someone in the USSR, they will twist your finger at your temple. Thanks to Comrade Shoigu. By the way, where is he now, on vacation, in the bank, with his suedes.


      Shoigu was not the only one who tried this - this is the result of the collective work of many. And they have followers.
    2. +7
      1 August 2024 08: 22
      Thanks to Comrade Shoigu

      The countdown must begin with Grachev...
    3. 0
      1 August 2024 13: 10
      Quote: Plowman
      Thanks to Comrade Shoigu. By the way, where is he now, on vacation, in the bank, with his suedes.

      I hope the gun is cleaned for its intended use
  8. +4
    1 August 2024 08: 41
    Even if the Russian army does not have the North Korean Bulsae-4, then this rumor had to be started. Information war in action. The rest of the world has a moment to reflect...................................
    1. +3
      1 August 2024 09: 55
      Does the rest of the world have the opinion that a second world army should fight using equipment donated by a third world country?
  9. -7
    1 August 2024 09: 39
    Quote: ramzay21
    That is, the DPRK, which has been considered by our authorities for the last 30 years to be a backward country, has surpassed the Russian Federation in some weapons, which received everything from a more highly developed civilization?

    Jumping gallop! Jump carefully, don't break the floor.
  10. -12
    1 August 2024 09: 46
    Quote: Plowman
    North Korea has passed us by. Tell someone in the USSR, they will twist your finger at your temple. Thanks to Comrade Shoigu. By the way, where is he now, on vacation, in the bank, with his suedes.

    Another one jumps, he'll break the floor!
    It was under Shoigu that the revival of the defense industry, which began under Taburetkin, came out of the shadows, as they say. It’s just that North Korea has not been and is not engaged in anything other than armament, so it was able to at least do something. Damn, we got it already!
    1. -5
      1 August 2024 14: 13
      This also irritates me a little - clearly either stupid or provocative comments.. But you have to understand that the info-fighters on that side have to work and are working. This is their bread and butter
    2. +4
      2 August 2024 14: 18
      Quote: Grossvater
      It’s just that North Korea has not been and is not engaged in anything other than weapons,

      The DPRK has very good metal-cutting machines, greenhouse equipment for the production of shoes and clothing, and possibly medicine (in the DPRK, with its crowded population in small apartments, no one died from Covid out of a million cases).
  11. 0
    1 August 2024 09: 48
    Quote from BlacTiger74
    Yes, if this is so, then who cares that Russia is armed with products from another country???

    I hope so. What should we receive from the DPRK in exchange for oil and wheat?
    1. 0
      13 September 2024 10: 33
      They have tungsten and molybdenum. Fishing, sewing industry, machine tools, a lot of things.
  12. +6
    1 August 2024 10: 14
    Well, this is just some kind of disgrace, seriously. So you have to be able to waste all the polymers in order to get to the point of purchasing anti-tank systems from the DPRK. Until 2022, everything was there - money, time, but unfortunately parades and all sorts of garbage cans like the BMD-4 were a higher priority for the army.
    1. +1
      2 August 2024 14: 21
      Quote from DoctorRandom
      So you have to be able to waste all the polymers in order to get to the point of purchasing anti-tank systems from the DPRK.

      Under Yeltsin, Russia failed in the civil aircraft industry, machine tool industry, automobile industry, shipbuilding, abandoned the near-Earth station and lost a lot of other things.
  13. +9
    1 August 2024 10: 22
    Thanks to Comrade Kim for not abandoning Russia in trouble, for not remembering that before the nullified one behaved like a whore.
    1. 2al
      +1
      1 August 2024 10: 57
      They will bow to the feet of Kim Jong-un when the DPRK brings in heavy HALE-class attack drones, such as RQ-4, with a connection to the MSPSS Gonets-D1M and communications repeater functions.
  14. -1
    1 August 2024 10: 23
    There is no connection - that it was the Korean complex that hit the AS-90. Maybe she was hit with a captured javelin. Maybe there is a Korean complex, maybe not. Maybe they brought in one thing for testing, like with the Centaur tank. And it’s far from a fact that a rocket with such a range flies via optical fiber; 15 km is a decent weight. With such a range, its size should be approximately the size of a Grad “pencil”. In general, the grandmother said everything in two.
    1. 2al
      +2
      1 August 2024 10: 58
      This is obviously not a Javelin even in range, and not just in trajectory.
  15. +4
    1 August 2024 10: 24
    Quote: Vadim S
    I don’t understand why hide supplies from Kim? There they brag about this and all the participants are just proud that they help, but with us it’s all hustle and bustle. Show how it hits, how the scraps fly away, name the model and manufacturer with your head held high. It's time to break the mentality of a slave before a Western master.

    Ours most likely believe that they usually help the weak. The strong don't need help. We try to look strong. That’s why there are so many corruption cases, because there were people because of whom it turned out that we need help.
  16. +9
    1 August 2024 10: 35
    The entire enemy world is testing weapons against RUSSIA. Let the Koreans test them in the same way in UKRAINE AGAINST NATO.
  17. +3
    1 August 2024 11: 00
    Hermes has been perfected for more than 10 years.
    And the Koreans, with the help of the Iranians, copied SPIKE-NLOS and received suitable samples of military equipment.
  18. +4
    1 August 2024 11: 32
    Supplies of weapons from the DPRK and any other state entities for the benefit of the Russian Federation increase the production base and help cover the need for weapons. The DPRK is also not at a loss - it is expanding the arms market, increasing employment, stimulating the economy and earning foreign currency.
  19. The comment was deleted.
  20. +11
    1 August 2024 11: 41
    Quote: Vadim S
    I don’t understand why hide supplies from Kim? There they brag about this and all the participants are just proud that they help, but with us it’s all hustle and bustle. Show how it hits, how the scraps fly away, name the model and manufacturer with your head held high. It's time to break the mentality of a slave before a Western master.

    So it’s not a shame in front of the Western master, but in front of one’s own people.
    Russia voted FOR ALL sanctions against North Korea in the UN Security Council:
    - in 2006 – for resolution No. 1718 (ban on the export of military equipment and luxury goods to the DPRK)
    - in 2009 - for resolution No. 1874 (the arms embargo was expanded; it was recommended to inspect all ships going to the DPRK and destroy any cargo that may be related to the nuclear program)
    - in January 2013 - for resolution No. 2087 (justification for the right to inspect any ships going to the DPRK and destroy any cargo on board that could be used for military development)
    - in March 2013 – for resolution No. 2094 (sanctions regarding remittances to the DPRK)
    - in March 2016 – for resolution No. 2270 (the export of gold, vanadium, titanium, rare and rare earth metals from the DPRK is prohibited)
    - in November 2016 - for resolution No. 2321 (the export of copper, nickel, zinc and silver from the DPRK is prohibited)
    - August 2017 – for resolution No. 2371 (the export of coal, iron, lead and seafood from the DPRK is prohibited. New restrictions have been introduced regarding the Foreign Trade Bank of the DPRK)
    - in September 2017 - for resolution No. 2375 (the export of textiles, gas condensate and liquids from the DPRK is prohibited; the creation of joint ventures with the DPRK is prohibited; the quota for imports of oil and petroleum products into the DPRK is reduced)
    - in December 2017 - for resolution No. 2397 (the quota for imports of oil and petroleum products into the DPRK was again reduced by 4 times; the export of food products, equipment, electrical equipment, and vehicles from the DPRK was prohibited (it turns out how much the DPRK exported!); confirmed the right to inspect ships going to the DPRK and confiscate any sanctioned cargo; North Korean citizens are prohibited from working abroad; those who are already working must be deported to their homeland within two years).

    And despite all these sanctions, despite the “ineffective socialist economy that only knows how to make galoshes,” the DPRK has bypassed the former superpower controlled by the most “effective managers” and is now helping out the “second army of the world” with the supply of its weapons. And at the same time, he does not remember that the current government of the Russian Federation voted for all these sanctions, which greatly complicated the life of North Korea.
    1. 0
      1 August 2024 22: 27
      in September 2017 - for resolution No. 2375 (export of textiles, gas condensate from the DPRK is prohibited

      Why should S. Korea export gas condensate?
      1. 0
        2 August 2024 14: 24
        Quote from: ln_ln
        Why should S. Korea export gas condensate?

        The United States preventively imposed sanctions on the supply of Russian energy resources through a third country, the DPRK, and on the export of Russian energy resources to a friendly country. And Putin and Lavrov, without thinking, then introduced sanctions against Russia itself.
      2. +1
        2 August 2024 18: 03
        Thanks for noticing. Of course - Import of gas condensate. https://press.un.org/en/2017/sc12983.doc.htm
  21. +4
    1 August 2024 12: 25
    From the other side of the front they report:
    1. +1
      1 August 2024 22: 20
      The disguise didn’t help you, “it looks like you took out the spoon, but you still cover your eye.”
  22. +5
    1 August 2024 13: 08
    there would be less theft from construction sites, toiletries and all sorts of “analogues”, maybe there wouldn’t be such a shame as help from Kim Jong-un
    1. 52
      0
      3 August 2024 04: 06
      May be. But help is never too much. Yes, and Kim and his kids want to shoot)))
  23. +1
    1 August 2024 14: 15
    The main driving characteristics and protection presumably remained at the level of the BTR-80.[i][/i]

    It is unlikely. Three axes, not four. North Korea is a classic military power. It should not be surprising that in one way or another they were able to organize the production of a type of weapon that does not require any special technology or serious financial costs. The United States is not capable of developing and producing the entire range of weapons on its own; it buys a lot from its allies, and does a lot of joint development and production. Fu-35 is an example for you. It is not surprising that Russia, having lost many technologies and production facilities with the collapse of the USSR, is purchasing something abroad. You can remember South Africa, like Africa, but there was a time when they had the longest-range artillery guns in the world, their own nuclear weapons, their own tank, the world’s first MRAP vehicles, produced combat aircraft and much more. Indians have a very high self-esteem, but the Su-30MKI also has South African detection sensors...
  24. +2
    1 August 2024 22: 18
    Well done Koreans and the launcher is protected, the goose is of course still better.
    But if they could supply us with modules without a chassis, we could attach it to the MT-LB
    1. +1
      2 August 2024 14: 26
      Quote: 75Sergey
      But if they could supply us with modules without a chassis, we could attach it to the MT-LB

      Probably the assembled North Korean installation will be cheaper than the cost of installing North Korean weapons on a Russian chassis.
  25. +1
    1 August 2024 23: 21
    Quote from: ln_ln
    in September 2017 - for resolution No. 2375 (export of textiles, gas condensate from the DPRK is prohibited

    Why should S. Korea export gas condensate?

    Thanks for noticing. Of course, import of gas condensate. https://press.un.org/en/2017/sc12983.doc.htm
  26. +3
    2 August 2024 08: 17
    That's strange. During the Soviet era, it was not considered shameful to use the equipment of the allies from the Warsaw Pact countries.
    The same combat training aircraft.
    What's wrong with using an ally's weapons in the current war?
  27. +2
    2 August 2024 10: 54
    It should not be surprising that in one way or another they were able to organize the production of a type of weapon that does not require any special technology or serious financial costs.

    This is the whole point of the question. Why and who needs weapons that require excessive technology and serious financial costs if the effect on the battlefield is negligible? Who prevented them from making or buying from China, North Korea and Iran a million cheap drones and working out the tactics of their use before the start of the Northeast Military District?
    1. -3
      2 August 2024 16: 54
      I learned Russian a long time ago) from 404.....
    2. 0
      5 August 2024 14: 56
      The desire to rob one’s own people and the desire to come to an agreement with the West in order to live as before were hampered. Well, the total incompetence of the leaders.
  28. +1
    2 August 2024 14: 44
    am very strong, and it’s better than Lancets, the only question is target designation, such a complex has a dozen drones and an operator for sure am
  29. 52
    +1
    3 August 2024 04: 03
    If Kim decided to conduct tests in a combat situation, then why not? Should we let the Koreans have fun for the good of the cause. The ATGM crews are clearly also Korean specialists, I don’t see anything wrong with these volunteers.
  30. +1
    3 August 2024 06: 28
    I'm not surprised by anything. In light of the emerging stolen amounts in the Shoigu Moscow Region, there was no money left for anything else.
  31. 0
    3 August 2024 23: 31
    Quote: ramzay21
    That is, the DPRK, which has been considered by our authorities for the last 30 years to be a backward country

    Some of the leaders even approved Western sanctions against the Great Un and the DPRK.
    Isn't it a shame to ask for help later?

    Eun generously forgave and helped Russia.
  32. 0
    17 August 2024 16: 50
    The main advantage of the complex is unification. First of all, this is a single wheeled platform instead of a Russian zoo.
  33. 0
    21 August 2024 19: 10
    Quote: ramzay21
    That is, the DPRK, which has been considered by our authorities for the last 30 years to be a backward country, has surpassed the Russian Federation in some weapons, which received everything from a more highly developed civilization?

    Oh how fun, right?
    Is there any proof? Well, should it be written that North Korea has problems with weapons development? Show me please.
    Reading comments like these (made up out of thin air), I would like to recommend that the administration ban mercilessly “for making statements without evidence.”
  34. 0
    13 September 2024 10: 25
    Quote: Hitriy Zhuk
    Does he carry optics with him for 10 km? belay

    It does not pull, but assumes. The so-called "inertialess reel" is on board and the wire is wound with it. Which does not move directly from the ground, but lies softly on it.