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"Criminal failures" of Colonel Kvachkov

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Perhaps over the past few years there has not been a more resonant court in Russia in relation to a former or current soldier than the court that was held over a retired GRU colonel Vladimir Kvachkov. After the conviction of the Moscow City Court, according to which Colonel Kvachkov was accused of promoting terrorism and organizing an armed insurrection, the public buzzed. Buzzed for several reasons.




Firstly, the trial itself was held in a half-closed mode, and the press subsequently managed to learn all the details of the course of this trial from the lips of lawyers. Journalists were admitted to the meeting already when the court heard the arguments of the parties and proceeded to the conviction, according to which Kvachkov received 13 years of "stricter".

Secondly, the evidence base of the corpus delicti is somewhat strange, which is based on the testimony of those people who, even at the trial itself, stated that these same testimonies were beaten out of them by the investigators in completely unlawful ways. The court did not investigate how the testimony was beaten out, in effect declaring that the witnesses this time bear false witness. That is, getting several witnesses at once to places that actively contribute to giving any testimony didn’t cause questions to the court, but why the witnesses decided to state testimony methods at the court itself - you know, it caused ... Like, gentlemen, if you think that you were not questioned within the framework of the law, then be so kind as to sue ... Oh, we later (after the verdict in the current case) and we'll figure it out ...

Thirdly, the application of the article of the Code of Criminal Procedure of the Russian Federation, on which Kvachkov was accused, raises questions. After all, if the court by the term “armed rebellion” understands the presence of a group of retired officers of a very young age, one broken crossbow, several hunting knives, two air pistols and a machine gun with a scattering of ammunition, which weapons and do not fit at all, then, frankly, it becomes scary for the security of the Russian Federation as a state.

Arguments of the court that, they say, Kvachkov - an experienced officer, and therefore could easily make an unconstitutional coup alone in the presence of two pneumatic trunks and a hunting knife, look, at least, strange. If you are guided by the logic of Judge Melekhin, then an article about an armed rebellion can get any pretty drunk fishing or hunting man who claims that he is not in awe of the policies of the current authorities. Why? The entire evidence base will be quite similar: is there a gun? - there are a couple of drunken friends? - also, well, the words that he would have ruled the country “a thousand times better”, every second Russian citizen speaks in our kitchens, in smoking rooms (and not only) ...

However, “every second man” is not imprisoned, as well as those whose evidence base against which is much more impressive and repeatedly confirmed, is not imprisoned, but the retired colonel Kvachkov is planted. As they say, far and long ...

Recently it became known that the lawyers of Vladimir Kvachkov are going to appeal the Moscow City Court’s verdict in the Supreme Court of Russia. It was the Supreme Court that at the time passed the final acquittal of the retired GRU officer in the so-called “Chubais case”. Recall that in the 2005 year, the FSB took Kvachkov into a turn, suspecting that it was precisely at the order of Kvachkov that an ambush was made on the route of the car of Anatoly Chubais. In that attempt, the "father of privatization" was not injured. Moreover, Anatoly Borisovich stated then that he already knew about the assassination attempt on him, and therefore the ambush did not come as a surprise to him. These words made the jury doubt whether there was an attempt at all, or there was a rather mediocre direction instead.

In the end, after long trials, the Kvachkov court not only acquitted, but also ordered the Ministry of Finance to pay him monetary compensation in the amount of 450 thousand rubles.

If you dock the events of March 2005 of the year, the acquittal of the Moscow Regional Court, confirmed by the decision of the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation, with the conviction Vladimir Kvachkov “awarded” in February of this year, the retired officer, holder of the two Orders of Courage and the Order of the Red Star, simply excuse me hopeless layman. “I wanted to kill Chubais — it didn't work out, I“ wanted ”to recruit people to go to Moscow with hunting knives — again it didn't work ... One gets the impression that someone intends to expose a military officer, he tried his best to attract attention to himself, but thanks to the vigorous work of the representatives of the special services, this “terrorist” and “rebel” failed. They say, citizens of Russia, sleep peacefully - we will always find justice for such “criminals” as Colonel Kvachkov: we will withdraw knives, leaflets and pneumatic pukalki ...

But the citizens of Russia “rebel” Kvachkov together with his whole “army” were somehow not particularly afraid. More precisely, they were not even afraid at all ... Our citizens today are not at all concerned with broken crossbows, with which someone there tried to push towards Moscow, and not even the health and life of Anatoly Borisovich Chubais, but something completely different. Concerns, for example, why with much less enthusiasm cases are investigated and handed down (more correctly, rather, they say: they are not handed down) convictions against terry corrupt officials, in whose houses you can find much more impressive collections than the collection of a pair of Colonel Kvachkov's pistols . The public is worried about why roof guards of the underground business, representatives of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the prosecutor’s office, the judiciary, who kill women and children to death on the pavements and stops; why in criminal cases of billions of dollars of embezzlement from the state budget, investigators have to figure it out for years, calling on dozens of different witnesses (many of whom themselves could have put their hands on tight bundles of bills), but in such a large-scale case as “state insurgency” charges are taken out as soon as pancakes are baked in a hot pan ...

Based on the above logic, it turns out that in our country the colonel of the Main Intelligence Directorate was preparing for committing all his “crimes” so clumsily that even the ladies from Oboronservis outnumbered him in preparation. How else? Kvachkov, according to the investigators and the court, at all intersections trumpeted that he was preparing a "crime", but the "women's council" at the Ministry of Defense quietly did its work. As a result, Kvachkov is a “trinashka on the zone,” and, for example, Ms. Vasilyeva is a trinashka in the number of dungeon rooms, where she waits until the investigators finally collect an “exhaustive” evidence base. Here is how! .. Behind this: urgent! urgent! urgent! all officers of the GRU - to go through the "school of silence" "Oboronservisa" ...
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  1. domokl
    domokl 26 February 2013 09: 17
    +107
    He spoke, I say, and I will speak ... Our state security system and law enforcement system were completely ignored ... But I must be afraid to admit ... It’s bitter that the old man was chosen as a scapegoat, but it’s good that people became interested in such things, they began to include everything in thought more and more ... So come to life ...
    1. Civil
      Civil 26 February 2013 09: 22
      +81
      1. Inadequate period.
      2. The FSB again made the GRU.
      3. The author of the article is a desperate man.
      4. Chubais is free and thrives with his wife an oppositionist.
      1. Goga
        Goga 26 February 2013 09: 36
        +59
        The civilian - Colleague, Kvachkova is sorry - fell under the distribution - this is an indicative flogging, so that others would not be comfortable with a demonstration, so to speak - this is an absurd term, for an elderly officer - life.
        In general, all the tales about the "terrible special forces" of the GRU really turned out to be fairy tales. As you wrote, Chubais is alive, how the judge who fulfilled this "order" will remain alive - but it's a shame ... repeat
        1. domokl
          domokl 26 February 2013 09: 45
          +6
          Quote: Gogh
          In general, all the tales about the "terrible special forces" of the GRU really turned out to be tales.
          As I recently watched a movie, Caravan Hunters is called ... I advise you to see ... One of the areas of activity of the Special Forces of the GRU is shown quite reliably ...
          And what was then under this brand already had a distant similarity to
          1. Northerner
            Northerner 26 February 2013 12: 55
            +44
            Good afternoon! Lawyer, I interpreted everything very competently and reasonably about the process and I, as a person with a legal education, including in the Criminal Law and Procedure, am in such a vacuum from the court that was above HERO AND PATRIOT Vladimir Kvachkov! Here, terrorists fight in the Caucasus, and then in Moscow and St. Petersburg, armed to the teeth with whole trains, move, setting records for offenses! And here, they concocted such a terrible corpus delicti and at the same time donkey ears in the evidence base! And, the question is, where is justice? Now it remains a mystery to me what Vladimir Vasilievich could really do if the people in power were so scared that they decided not to take it quietly, but to make an indicative flogging for all PATRIOTS OF RUSSIA!

            Yours!
            1. hohryakov066
              hohryakov066 27 February 2013 14: 46
              +9
              Totally agree with you! As a professional lawyer, I never doubted the "impartiality" of our court. The task was to arrange a demonstration trial - they did it without batting an eye! Try to go to court with such an evidence base on robbery - they will acquit you, they will make you an extreme and will remember everywhere for a long time! And then out of the blue such a sentence! It is necessary to get up, to collect money for the defense with the whole world and go out to appeal by very good lawyers. Otherwise, the person who really worried about our country will remain behind bars!
              1. Budulay
                Budulay 27 February 2013 22: 40
                +1
                Not the fact that defense lawyers will not (have not) been engaged by the opposite side ...
            2. Andrey57
              Andrey57 1 March 2013 17: 23
              +3
              The case and the court against the same well-deserved retired military Khabarov from the same series.
            3. Goodmen
              Goodmen 4 March 2013 15: 44
              +2
              Yes, the authorities do not give a shit about Russia and the patriots ... They just do not give a shit ... and the ostentatious process was carried out for the wit of violent heads ... and before the elections they urgently increased the allowance in the army, for a long time they really gathered ... they promised more and more, and here time ... and before the election - be kind. Also indicative.
          2. vlbelugin
            vlbelugin 26 February 2013 13: 59
            +39
            Goga and domokl
            The GRU special forces did not work (according to Chubais). It was a show. If the special forces worked, then the redhead would go to heaven. The gates of hell are always open for him.
            1. Misantrop
              Misantrop 26 February 2013 14: 09
              +13
              Quote: vlbelugin
              If the special forces worked, then the redhead would go to heaven

              Shortly before that, there was already something similar. Allegedly, the whole color of the special forces of the Airborne Forces united to jointly overwhelm the terminator and superman Dima Kholodov ... lol
              1. valokordin
                valokordin 26 February 2013 14: 50
                +4
                I think that Dima Kholodov was inundated in order to defame the Ministry of Defense and Grachev, his kingdom of heaven. and It was done by democrats like Chubais and Gaidar.
                1. Misantrop
                  Misantrop 26 February 2013 15: 00
                  +5
                  Quote: valokordin
                  This was done by democrats like Chubais and Gaidar.
                  And the direct executor was a journalist colleague from his close circle. Having received a diplomat of documents from any other, he MANDATORY would have climbed inside to check. And he endured to the editorial office, where he was blown up ...
                2. Ruslan67
                  Ruslan67 27 February 2013 03: 12
                  +1
                  Quote: valokordin
                  in order to defile the Ministry of Defense and Grachev, his kingdom of heaven

                  + good drinks
                3. SASCHAmIXEEW
                  SASCHAmIXEEW 27 February 2013 10: 35
                  0
                  That's for sure, these ghouls are capable of anything !!!
            2. Joker
              Joker 26 February 2013 15: 57
              +7
              If the special forces worked, then the redhead would go to heaven.

              And here you are VERY badly mistaken, I think that after what he has done in his life, it is unlikely that anyone will let him go to heaven after death, he will be fried in a pan.
            3. cumastra1
              cumastra1 26 February 2013 16: 59
              +3
              A frying pan to him without oil! impudent red face. If there was an assassination attempt, then he, and not to seize power. And the servicemen, instead of helping in a good deed, tied a peasant. It's a pity.
              1. Lavr75
                Lavr75 27 February 2013 13: 03
                +4
                He is a Jew, and their task is different! According to their Jewish truth, he did everything to get to paradise1
            4. skrgar
              skrgar 26 February 2013 21: 52
              +9
              vlbelugin,
              And I don’t believe .. There is no doubt that if the GRU would like to remove Chubais .. yes damn it .. We would still be sure .. that he died himself ..- well, or accidentally pile vouchers from the wardrobe on his head crashed .. Something like this. Something the "guys" with Kvachkov just carried out a borzo disassembly .. This is not the case ..
              1. SASCHAmIXEEW
                SASCHAmIXEEW 27 February 2013 10: 38
                +4
                I think it’s going around, and very soon, it seems to me ....
            5. SASCHAmIXEEW
              SASCHAmIXEEW 27 February 2013 10: 33
              +1
              So why doesn't it work against 5callons?
            6. vyatom
              vyatom 1 March 2013 12: 48
              0
              Quote: vlbelugin
              The GRU special forces did not work (according to Chubais). It was a show. If the special forces worked, then the redhead would go to heaven. The gates of hell are always open for him
              Truly so. But either the special forces have gone wrong. Or the red-haired attention and affection is not enough. I decided to attract attention.







              1. Andrey57
                Andrey57 1 March 2013 17: 28
                +4
                Kvachkov, if he wanted to remove the Chubaisyatina, it was enough to whistle a few of the traitors from those who fought in his special forces brigade in Afghanistan, they would have made him easy, no security would have helped !!!
        2. predator.3
          predator.3 26 February 2013 14: 42
          +4
          Yekaterinburg. February 26th. INTERFAX.RU - On Tuesday, the Sverdlovsk Regional Court sentenced Leonid Khabarov, Viktor Kralin and Alexander Ladeishchikov, who are called supporters of retired GRU colonel Vladimir Kvachkov, convicted of attempting to prepare an armed rebellion.


          Khabarov and Kralin were sentenced to 4,5 years in a penal colony; Ladeyshchikov received two years in prison on probation.


          Khabarov was found guilty under part 1 of article 205.1 (involvement in terrorist activities) and part 1 of article 222 of the Criminal Code (arms trafficking). Moreover, he was acquitted under Article 279 (armed rebellion) and Article 228 (illegal acquisition, storage, transportation, narcotic drugs) through Part 1 of Article 30 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (preparation for a crime).


          Kralin was found guilty under part 1 of article 205.1 and part 2 of article 222 of the Criminal Code.


          Ladeishchikov was convicted under Part 1 of Article 222 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.

          See the original material at http://www.interfax.ru/news.asp?id=292463
          1. SASCHAmIXEEW
            SASCHAmIXEEW 27 February 2013 10: 43
            +2
            How many of them are 5 gallon ghouls all over the country, but I think their punishment will soon overtake !!! The plague on your head and your clan to the third knee be damned !!!
        3. Andrey57
          Andrey57 1 March 2013 17: 20
          +2
          Quote: Gogh
          In general, all the tales about the "terrible special forces" of the GRU really turned out to be tales.

          You tell this to those who fought in his special forces brigade, which he commanded in Afghanistan, or better yet, tell the spirits that they were brought down as it should by storytellers.
        4. Cadet787
          Cadet787 4 March 2013 22: 24
          0
          The Kvachkov case is not even sewn with white thread, it’s a shame, people frighten with pear horror stories.
      2. domokl
        domokl 26 February 2013 09: 42
        +11
        Quote: Civil
        2. The FSB again made the GRU.
        The administration practically does not exist for a long time ... What remains to be called GRU the language does not turn around ... We talked about this when the GRU special forces discussed ...
        1. Civil
          Civil 26 February 2013 09: 56
          +5
          domokl,

          Could the shamans intercede? I mean the words
          1. domokl
            domokl 26 February 2013 10: 27
            +4
            Quote: Civil
            Could the shamans intercede? I mean the words
            And who is Shamans? For SPGRU? Shamanov has his own diocese and is in no way connected with the GRU ...
          2. vezunchik
            vezunchik 26 February 2013 11: 21
            +13
            It's just that, as always, the languages ​​†‹вЂ‹ were stuck in the z..su. "Thank God, not me .."
        2. Goga
          Goga 26 February 2013 10: 13
          +11
          Greetings, Alexander! - quote - "The Office has practically not existed for a long time ..." - and I am talking about the same thing, but fairy tales continue to circulate, TV series make a fool of people, and the Chekists have chewed competitors for a long time, and the current process is so, echoes of the past and more degree action of intimidation for all former "specialists" - "you dare not !!!" - that's how I understand it ...
          1. domokl
            domokl 26 February 2013 10: 30
            +6
            Quote: Gogh
            Management practically does not exist for a long time ... "- so I am about the same, and fairy tales continue to circulate, TV series make a fool of people's heads,
            And it seems to me that what is happening now is what happened with Margelov with the Airborne Forces ... Remember In the zone of special attention, The return move ... Himself, I went to the landing in many ways just by watching these films ... Probably trying to revive the prestige of the service ...
      3. vyatom
        vyatom 1 March 2013 12: 46
        0
        Quote: Civil
        2. The FSB again made the GRU.

        What are you talking about?
      4. Vladimir 5
        Vladimir 5 April 11 2018 19: 36
        -1
        Firstly, V. Kvachkov himself conducted inadequately, chatted a lot, but there was no business. For talk and untwisted. After all, it has long been clear, But Chubais is an indispensable participant in the Bilderberg clubs and others, and the fact that he is the main “watching” globalists in Russia is therefore eternal and unsinkable. He brought the GDP from St. Petersburg and brought him to the main posts, because the current president, his creature. V. Kvachkov in his remarks is in many respects right, only the assassination is carried out, and not chatted on every corner. Secondly, why did V. Kvachkov not cooperate with the officer corps of Russia, with its organizations. Sometimes actions with him look like a decoy, the basis for the defeat of patriotic forces. After all, after his talk, E. Serdyukov was appointed Minister of Defense, whose task was to dismiss, to disperse the entire old staff officer corps, as the last danger to Chubais and the liberal government, to destroy all communications and the structure of the RF Armed Forces, which had passed from the SA ... Many questions on about V. Kvachkov, - or, or a decoy, to defeat the personnel officer corps of the Armed Forces of the Ministry of Defense, the last effective force of the patriots of Russia ... Now they have created a powerful Rosguard, an instrument against whom? ..
    2. Yoshkin Kot
      Yoshkin Kot 26 February 2013 09: 55
      -42%
      gentlemen, at least minus, but Treason to the Motherland remains Treason! regardless of motives and offenses! How a traitor he was, Kurbsky! so traitors were the Bolsheviks and other socialists during the War, who decomposed the army and committed 2 coups in 17, as Vlasov was a traitor, the same traitors were von Panwitz and others who fought with weapons in their hands against the only Russian army of the Red Army, exactly the same Traitor and Gorbachev and ebeyen and the grandchildren of commissars like Gaidar and Chubais with a frill lera, and exactly the same Traitor to the Motherland and Kvachkov and his comrades! and by the way, even criminals under their theft bring morality, so they did it and they do it, we did not say "with good intentions, the road to hell is paved."
      1. Yoshkin Kot
        Yoshkin Kot 26 February 2013 10: 18
        -27%
        what shy minuscule people ??? aaa this is probably the Vlasovites wassat
        1. Yoshkin Kot
          Yoshkin Kot 26 February 2013 11: 23
          -21%
          gentlemen, you seem to like the "uprising of the people" in Libya? and Syria? are you fans of maydanutyh? there, at the head of the pro-American in fact, "uprisings" were the same "patriots" like minus markers and you minus for a simple reason, because you understand and wish that any mess in the country is for the benefit of the ENEMIES! then you are gentlemen ENEMIES!
          1. Hon
            Hon 26 February 2013 11: 59
            +30
            Quote: Yoshkin Cat
            gentlemen, you seem to like the "uprising of the people" in Libya? and Syria? are you fans of maydanutyh? there, at the head of the pro-American in fact, "uprisings" were the same "patriots" like minus markers and you minus for a simple reason, because you understand and wish that any mess in the country is for the benefit of the ENEMIES! then you are gentlemen ENEMIES!

            The gentlemen simply do not like to stand in the position of the letter ZY, and wash themselves with the shit that is constantly poured on us. And if the military officer Kvachkov is "ENEMY", then I will support this "ENEMY". Due to the fact that I trust him, and not the Nashists and other pseudo-patriots who scream at every corner that there are enemies all around while plundering and destroying the country.
            1. Yoshkin Kot
              Yoshkin Kot 26 February 2013 12: 02
              -18%
              Gentlemen just stand that shit that enemies pour on Russia! INCLUDING AND ALL
              Hon s
            2. Andrey57
              Andrey57 1 March 2013 17: 32
              +4
              With such an "ENEMY" I would go anywhere, because such people do not abandon theirs, and do not give up.
          2. Yoshkin Kot
            Yoshkin Kot 26 February 2013 12: 14
            -12%
            the first appeared who wants RUSSIA the fate of the unfortunate Libya! Feel free to introduce yourself! so that society can look at you

            woo, only gentlemen, it's cool that I did not notice such an admiration for the Libyan and Syrian "revolutionaries" earlier on the forum !!! how cleverly they hid themselves !!!!! wassat
          3. Pushkar
            Pushkar 27 February 2013 13: 39
            +4
            Yoshkin Kot, pile it all up? And have you been discharged from Alekseevskaya long ago? [
      2. ziqzaq
        ziqzaq 26 February 2013 10: 58
        +19
        Quote: Yoshkin Cat
        ladies and gentlemen, at least get caught up, but Treason remains Treason!

        Dear Cat, do you think a respectable citizen is a vegetable? Remember that intelligence is the ability to see more subtle differences. In your opinion, and Stalin is a traitor? Something you distort ......................
        1. Yoshkin Kot
          Yoshkin Kot 26 February 2013 11: 09
          -17%
          Yeah, Vlasov probably argued the same way, PERSONALLY I A PATRIOT OF YOUR REAL COUNTRY! not cominland or fantasy linguistic
          I AM THE PATRIOT OF RUSSIA AND I DO NOT WANT THAT HER FROM THE "BEST IMPLICATIONS" AGAIN AS TWICE IN THAT CENTURY DROWNED IN POVERTY AND DEATH OF RUSSIAN PEOPLE!
          1. Yoshkin Kot
            Yoshkin Kot 26 February 2013 12: 03
            -13%
            Apparently, those who are minusers, want to finish off the Russian people, to the end and lower them into hopeless begging am

            cool, "patriots" apparently kommilanda and zyakolenda appeared, for them apparently STRONGLY LOVE RUSSIA!
            1. strannik595
              strannik595 26 February 2013 12: 57
              +8
              sometimes it's better to keep silent laughing poor kitten just tore
              1. Yoshkin Kot
                Yoshkin Kot 26 February 2013 13: 05
                -4
                ripped ???? ha-ha-ha-ha-ha - ha !!! the ripper has not grown, the opinion of ignoramuses who hate their HOMELAND and hide it, some under the guise of neo-paganism, some of Judeo-Marxism, dividing the Motherland both I love and I don’t love, it’s violet if at least one of them on a branch, even for a minute, makes at least one gyrus move , and will understand that all these stereotypes and templates were invented for the division of the Russian People and the Destruction of Russia, its Faith, Language! Orthodox Christian sense of Truth! then at least minusute in the gray marshal, I do not suffer from an inferiority complex, and my self-esteem is based, not "forum shoulder straps" tongue
                1. Larus
                  Larus 26 February 2013 14: 16
                  +2
                  The position of the undergrowth. Do you belong to which camp?
                  1. Yoshkin Kot
                    Yoshkin Kot 27 February 2013 08: 45
                    -2
                    Well, you are young, you see wassat
                2. valokordin
                  valokordin 26 February 2013 14: 54
                  +3
                  Well, Kotyara is a spouted Black Sotin, an accomplice of EbNyatina, who is only disguised and is already calling the gentlemen, he is comrades like a sickle in the balls.
                  1. Che
                    Che 26 February 2013 15: 10
                    +2
                    valokordin,
                    Gentlemen in 17 exhausted.
                    1. Yoshkin Kot
                      Yoshkin Kot 27 February 2013 08: 49
                      -2
                      Yeah, togarischi from the towns angry
                  2. Yoshkin Kot
                    Yoshkin Kot 27 February 2013 08: 48
                    -3
                    Thank you for comparing me with the GREAT CITIZEN OF RUSSIA Kuzma Minin!
                    n-dya, and the obiudo-Marxist, patriot of the Jewish kommilenda, still has to find out what the Black Hundred is, and this is just SYNONYM OF A SIMPLE RUSSIAN MAN! PEOPLE OF RUSSIAN! so what a patriot! valokordinchik should not sign his MONSTERY LITERACY and MONSTERY RUSSOPHOBIA SO FREQUENTLY! wassat wassat lol
                3. Bort radist
                  Bort radist 1 March 2013 12: 40
                  +1
                  Quote: Yoshkin Cat
                  tore up ???? ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha !!!

                  In what you are right. But only about the March cats shout about love, albeit to their homeland. Oh yes, today is the first.
            2. Larus
              Larus 26 February 2013 14: 15
              +7
              Your position is clear, everything around is wrong, except for you .... reminds Novodvorskaya, the same one on the right, and the capital
          2. Larus
            Larus 26 February 2013 14: 14
            +2
            And today we have prosperity and there are no deaths. Or really look at things and see that the enemies are just in power and continue the policy of killing us as a state !!!
            1. Yoshkin Kot
              Yoshkin Kot 27 February 2013 08: 54
              0
              kaneshno, kaneshno, you mister Judeo-Marxistushko, how can you not look at the world without pink or black glasses! Man is generally mortal, you know? prosperity? Well, compared with the Soviet Union, life has become much better, THOSE WHO WORK! A WORK, GLORY TO GOD! FULL!
              only lazy people professional Trotskyists write instead of working
              ps probably the peasants and workers, supposedly on behalf of whom all kinds of blanks, brackets and other Rosenfelds ruled, were in the union skating like butter and cheese? especially in the 20s ???? is it true ??? no or do you want to return to the 80s? do you know how much your pants cost then ???? 100 rubles, for jeans, with an average salary of 170-180 rubles,
              so that now it’s much better than it was during the union
              1. SASCHAmIXEEW
                SASCHAmIXEEW 27 February 2013 11: 16
                +2
                The cat is wrong, the case is fabricated, And the pants for 100, this is not the main thing in life !! The collapse of the Union is the result of the betrayal of the KGB Andropov, his hunchbacked protege + the work of the CIA with 5 callons in the Union, too many liquidationists were at key posts, however, as now, which leads to the collapse of RUSSIA!
          3. Nord007hold
            Nord007hold 26 February 2013 22: 51
            +2
            Apparently you are a supporter of a slow, "bloodless" (although what is going on can only be called that way) but no less inevitable end?
      3. not good
        not good 26 February 2013 11: 04
        +29
        In this case, the traitor is not Kvachkov, but a judge who ignores the obvious facts and judges clearly at the direction of the same traitors of the Motherland as Chubais and Co.
        1. Yoshkin Kot
          Yoshkin Kot 26 February 2013 11: 09
          -9
          revolutionary expediency, familiar, passed, died
          1. ziqzaq
            ziqzaq 26 February 2013 11: 47
            +15
            Quote: Yoshkin Cat

            revolutionary expediency, familiar, passed, died

            Dear Cat, especially for you, an anecdote very popular in the so-called "perestroika", if you led an "adult" life at that "dashing" time, then you probably remember it:
            ; ----------------------------------------------
            There is a fox in the woods and sees a crow flying backwards.
            Hey, crow, why are you flying backwards? You are crazy? the fox asks.
            Oh, you fox, lagging behind time. - the crow answers awkwardly sitting down on a branch.
            Have you heard about perestroika? - continued the crow.
            Nah. - the fox was surprised.
            Oh, you are a village! - said the crow and flew backwards to the front further.
            And in fact, what am I redhead or what? - decided the fox.
            It is said - done, the fox runs back to front, uncomfortable, slow, tiring - but perestroika .........
            Then the wolf runs through the forest and sees: the fox is running back to front.
            Well, goodness doesn’t disappear, the wolf thought, and rubbed the fox by the most magician.
            The fox is walking after the "use" by the wolf barely dragging his legs. Then he sees again the crow flies.
            Oh, crow, crow, what a fine fellow you were, and you didn’t care at all, but I, after the restructuring of a wolf, you bastard, tore off like a goat goat without vaseline .......
            And this is what we have here at the "top" of perestroika, and below you, as they were fighting, they will continue to tear .......
            ; ---------------------------------------
            So dear Cat, if the people had more actively expressed their attitude to perestroika and to everything that happened in 85-91, then you look and there would be no such demon chapel .....
            1. Yoshkin Kot
              Yoshkin Kot 26 February 2013 12: 08
              +1
              if only if, by the way, in 17 the people had come out against the Bolshiviks in 91, everyone didn’t give a damn about communism, which was implanted instead of LOVE FOR THE HOMELAND, adding inappropriate "socialist".
              Here, under the guise of the end of "councils", Western ideologists dragged another death of the country into the minds of the masses, as, however, 70 years earlier, the same Western ideologists under the guise of "Down with the Monarchy" "Peace" Land to peasants-factories for workers "Dragged the death of the Country for the first time ...
              1. ziqzaq
                ziqzaq 26 February 2013 12: 47
                +2
                Quote: Yoshkin Cat

                if only if, by the way, in 17, the people against the Bolsheviks

                Dear Cat, you are either a banal troll, or have not yet said goodbye to "youthful maximalism". Don't lump everything together. I hope you are familiar with this Christian commandment:
                "By their fruits, you will recognize them" or an ancient Russian proverb on the same topic:
                "A tree is known by its fruits, and a man by works" ..........
                1. Yoshkin Kot
                  Yoshkin Kot 26 February 2013 13: 13
                  -1
                  hm? when there is nothing to answer in essence there are accusations of trollism? youthful maximalism (Dear Zigzag, this is rather for those who are looking for "social justice" in life without hammering more than one nail.
                  in a bunch ??? and for me the reason for the Russophobia of the Sophorumites is violet, whether ritualism to Judeo-Marxism, Judeo-liberalism, or idols, both "dolboslavnyh" and the idol of the pagan goddess of freedom, which stands with a waffle iron on the shores of a descendant, and the Bolsheviks also paid tribute to her worship in 17 a repetition of the Jacobin "freedom, havens and bgatsvo"
                  like the violet reason for Treason of the Motherland, like fear, fear of being punished, resentment, "building a bright future" whatever you call it, but a Traitor is always a Traitor
                  1. SASCHAmIXEEW
                    SASCHAmIXEEW 27 February 2013 14: 12
                    0
                    Whom did Kvachkov betray?
                2. Yoshkin Kot
                  Yoshkin Kot 26 February 2013 13: 41
                  -3
                  well, even if the troll, it’s hardly commonplace tongue
                  1. Ratibor12
                    Ratibor12 26 February 2013 14: 10
                    +7
                    Quote: Yoshkin Cat
                    well, even if the troll, it’s hardly commonplace


                    Another smug internet prank with alternative logic. Our answer to the US printing press is stamping virtual fools! But where is this copier? Me-jav! Answer us! The postman Pechkin will come to the clinic to hand over experiments. wink
                    1. Yoshkin Kot
                      Yoshkin Kot 27 February 2013 08: 56
                      -1
                      gee-gee-gee, about biting, only narcophobic narcissist can take the nickname ratibor, and even rather a youngster, with an inferiority complex recourse
                  2. Pushkar
                    Pushkar 27 February 2013 13: 46
                    0
                    Quote: Yoshkin Cat
                    Well, even if the troll, then it’s hardly a banal tongue
                    that's for sure, rarely such meet.
              2. valokordin
                valokordin 26 February 2013 14: 57
                +4
                Quote: Yoshkin Cat
                if only if, by the way, in 17 the people had come out against the Bolshiviks in 91, everyone didn’t give a damn about communism, which was implanted instead of LOVE FOR THE HOMELAND, adding inappropriate "socialist".
                Here, under the guise of the end of "councils", Western ideologists dragged another death of the country into the minds of the masses, as, however, 70 years earlier, the same Western ideologists under the guise of "Down with the Monarchy" "Peace" Land to peasants-factories for workers "Dragged the death of the Country for the first time ...

                Kotyara, the people said nothing in 91, and the Yeltsinoids and his henchmen, human rights activists and foreign agents of the State Department, spoke, but you yourself know this and don’t powder your brains.
                1. Yoshkin Kot
                  Yoshkin Kot 27 February 2013 08: 57
                  0
                  descendants of the judeo-commissioners by the way, wassat
                  1. SASCHAmIXEEW
                    SASCHAmIXEEW 27 February 2013 11: 27
                    +2
                    It is precisely in power that their descendants, Judo commissars ...
              3. Ratibor12
                Ratibor12 26 February 2013 18: 49
                +2
                Quote: Yoshkin Cat
                Western ideologists under the guise of "Down with the Monarchy" "Peace" The land to the peasants-factories for the workers "They dragged the death of the Country for the first time.


                Edit: "Down with managers" and then the slogan is the same. For it is actual!
                1. Yoshkin Kot
                  Yoshkin Kot 27 February 2013 08: 57
                  -2
                  baby, have you ever scored a nail in a wall? it seems not wassat
              4. CTEPX
                CTEPX 27 February 2013 03: 58
                0
                Quote: Yoshkin Cat
                "Peace" The land to the peasants-factories for the workers "They dragged the death of the Country for the first time.

                Why in the first? And the Great Troubles? When did the militias of Minin and Pozharsky save Russia from complete collapse?
                True, this did not save us from the monarch's external control).
                1. Yoshkin Kot
                  Yoshkin Kot 27 February 2013 08: 59
                  +1
                  from aphids, are you my friend a democrat? and anyway, what sense, liberal or socialist, the same eggs, side view! the same Jews live on the robbery of the Christian people and its destruction
            2. SASCHAmIXEEW
              SASCHAmIXEEW 27 February 2013 11: 23
              0
              I think the people reacted correctly, just went the wrong way !! And with the vouchers Chubais jerked, they had to be personalized, and he depersonalized them !!! THIEF Ginger !!!
      4. Ratibor12
        Ratibor12 26 February 2013 11: 07
        +22
        Quote: Yoshkin Cat
        pope, even if you minus, but Treason to the Motherland remains Treason! regardless of motives and offenses! How a traitor he was, Kurbsky! so traitors were the Bolsheviks and other socialists during the War, who decomposed the army and committed 2 coups in 17, as Vlasov was a traitor, the same traitors were von Panwitz and others who fought with weapons in their hands against the only Russian army of the Red Army, exactly the same Traitor and Gorbachev with ebeyen and the grandchildren of commissars like Gaidar and Chubais with a frill lera, and exactly the same Traitor to the Motherland and Kvachkov and his comrades! and by the way, even criminals bring morality under their theft, so they did it and they do it, we did not say "with good intentions, the road to hell is paved."


        Ahhhh! Traitors everywhere! Take them off me-I-I-I !!!!

        Well, yes ... The policemen and partisans planted for treason. belay Koshkin Bot, you confused the Motherland. Kvachkov has only one, but the comprador elite has none at all. ".. Where did the Motherland go to sleep there ..."
        The people have the right to revolt against the occupation administration. Moreover, such an uprising is the only chance of salvation.
        Kvachkov and Khabarov opposed the authorities in the legal field. The authorities showed what happens. Do you need this power? It's not too late for her pitchfork.
        1. Yoshkin Kot
          Yoshkin Kot 26 February 2013 11: 29
          -18%
          you see
          IT'S YOU a rat, why then not Legolas? I got a fantasy dreamer, where all the heroes are beautiful and honest, and the villain is mean and ugly like orcs! YOU have beguiled a real life where traitors are loving and captivating the fooled masses with beautiful slogans. And these fooled ones have to pay with their blood and poverty! 17 years didn’t teach anything? who filled Russia with Russian blood and filled it with robbers for almost 20 years? nothing learned from the painful economic recovery in the 30s? I never thought why everything was compared with the 13th year? Where did the RI industry go? which level reached only after 20 years? then not for all indicators? for example, meat consumption reached only after 65-70 years?
          What do modern examples not teach? Libya? Syria ???
          What didn’t they learn from the 90s? when the tribesmen and descendants of the Bolsheviks kicked open the door to the Head of the Russian State?
          forward! destroy the homeland! for the sake of their idealistic views! am
          1. Ratibor12
            Ratibor12 26 February 2013 14: 29
            +8
            Quote: Yoshkin Cat
            Do you see IT YOU ratiator, why then not Legolas? I got a fantasy dreamer, where all the heroes are beautiful and honest, and the villain is mean and ugly like orcs!

            Legolas? Elves? Orcs? What are you talking about? A-ah-ah !!! I remembered there is such a work "The Lord of the Rings" based on it in Hollywood, the film was shot! But I loved to read "Pioneers-Heroes" as a child. But according to the thesis "the enemy must be known by sight" I also got acquainted with this English opus. What can I say ... The idea of ​​the book is already piz ... ets! Typically Anglo-Saxon-Fascist approach. There are peoples of light (white lords) and peoples of darkness (subhuman). Well then Tolkien left not far from Kipling.
            Yoshkin Bot why was there no other example in your head? Eh ... I'm afraid they just aren't there. You must be like their ... "anime"? Or amy? No ... wait! EMP is during a nuclear explosion! Ah-ah! Emo!
            Well then, what should you advise ... request Cry! crying
            1. Yoshkin Kot
              Yoshkin Kot 27 February 2013 08: 59
              -2
              Do you want to admit ?: naughty girl !!!
        2. Yoshkin Kot
          Yoshkin Kot 26 February 2013 11: 52
          -13%
          comprador elite, you still push the class about the class struggle! Isn’t it easy to say that you are just a bummer? Do you want to live on what you didn’t earn personally and don’t mind going to kill those who work and earn money?
          1. yak69
            yak69 26 February 2013 12: 29
            +5
            Quote: Yoshkin Cat
            you still push about the class struggle!

            I recognize PATRIOT!
            You, Mr. patriot, whose patriot? USA patriot?
            Very much your PATRIOTism is given by sneakers and foams like Coca-Cola!
            1. Yoshkin Kot
              Yoshkin Kot 26 February 2013 12: 38
              -15%
              I’m a patriot of Russia, and you, Mr. Comrade, a patriot of what? all the same, apparently, the USA, if you wish Russia the fate of Libya!
              1. yak69
                yak69 26 February 2013 12: 56
                +11
                Quote: Yoshkin Cat
                just wish Russia the fate of Libya!

                Russia is not Libya. This time.
                Your patriotism, dear, is based on the petty-bourgeois ideology of possessiveness, and you are clearly demonstrating this. These are two.
                Kvachkov and Khabarov (with whom I personally know) are real men who have repeatedly shown their heroism on the battlefield and their entire daily lives. These are three.
                As soon as you, Yoshkin Kot, support explicitly and grossly fabricated accusations, you are thereby demonstrating your deepest position, which is so clumsily masked by patriotism. These are four.
                Hence the conclusion - you are no patriot of your fatherland!
                And the Cossack is mishandled !!!
                1. Yoshkin Kot
                  Yoshkin Kot 26 February 2013 13: 07
                  -11%
                  Of course, on this Kvachkov and sat down and will sit, just a personal offense, like a Kurbish carries to the country And precisely because Russia will not sit Libya!
              2. a
                a 27 February 2013 13: 33
                0
                you goldfinch and whistle like a goldfinch!
          2. Larus
            Larus 26 February 2013 14: 20
            +8
            You seem to be broadcasting from Russia and don’t know that our work and earning do not match. You can work and not earn, but you can earn and not work, the main thing is who you know, but rather relatives. And if you still live in Russia, such statements they say about you as a near-looking individual who is not going to see anything.
            And after that you don’t have to sing about honest businessmen who have achieved everything themselves ......
            1. Yoshkin Kot
              Yoshkin Kot 27 February 2013 09: 01
              -3
              unlike you, I do not broadcast, I live and work! and I’m doing my MOTHERLAND BETTER and I’m not going to forgive the Jews that the Marxists, their liberal granddaughters, twice robbed and humiliated in the 20th century, the MOTHERLAND, as well as their headless supposedly Russian followers
          3. Ratibor12
            Ratibor12 26 February 2013 14: 47
            +8
            Quote: Yoshkin Cat
            comprador elite, you still push the class about the class struggle! Isn’t it easy to say that you are just a bummer? Do you want to live on what you didn’t earn personally and don’t mind going to kill those who work and earn money?


            You correctly recalled the class struggle. You can not hush up the Truth. Down with the cast of managers and other office-banking plankton! And the oligarchs and their retinue got divorced! Apparently invisible!
            As for me. Lazy person? And what!
            In general, I would not mind rebelling !!! am Now I’ll take a hammer (or something else I’ll find) and I’ll run off and kill about the law enforcement system of my beloved state. fellow
            But seriously, I would gladly join Khabarov and Kvachkov (I would beg them to take it, although nah ... er I am so handsome to them) to go and kill those who betrayed and destroyed my country and lives on "unearned (but stolen) by them personally." It's time to cleanse the body of parasites. Well, I would have lived to see Victory, there you look and again would think about earnings. Much will need to be rebuilt. Oh, how much work will be done! There will be no time to knock on the keys! wink
            1. Yoshkin Kot
              Yoshkin Kot 27 February 2013 09: 02
              -3
              kaneshno, kaneshno, we must again allow the Jews and a foreigner, rob, kill rape am
              Are you tired of spaghetti on your ears?
              1. SASCHAmIXEEW
                SASCHAmIXEEW 27 February 2013 13: 03
                +1
                Yoshkin Cat Do you have a recipe on how to get rid of the power of the Zionist bastard, share your thoughts, I have one recipe for the wall !!!
          4. valokordin
            valokordin 26 February 2013 15: 02
            +3
            Quote: Yoshkin Cat
            comprador elite, you still push the class about the class struggle! Isn’t it easy to say that you are just a bummer? Do you want to live on what you didn’t earn personally and don’t mind going to kill those who work and earn money?

            You are so hard-working, you probably catch mice in our country, but you probably have a sea of ​​the last and you get paid a lot. Well, for sure, the agent of Prokhorov, Chubais and Vekcheklberg, and maybe Rothschild and Morgan.
            1. Yoshkin Kot
              Yoshkin Kot 27 February 2013 09: 03
              -2
              don't judge people by yourself, russophobic
      5. Tatanka Yotanka
        Tatanka Yotanka 26 February 2013 11: 23
        0
        Quote: Yoshkin Cat
        but Treason remains Treason!

        he is not charged with this article 275, so your speculation is similar to this trial
      6. Hon
        Hon 26 February 2013 11: 42
        +18
        Quote: Yoshkin Cat
        gentlemen, at least minus, but Treason to the Motherland remains Treason! regardless of motives and offenses! How a traitor he was, Kurbsky! so traitors were the Bolsheviks and other socialists during the War, who decomposed the army and committed 2 coups in 17, as Vlasov was a traitor, the same traitors were von Panwitz and others who fought with weapons in their hands against the only Russian army of the Red Army, exactly the same Traitor and Gorbachev and ebeyen and the grandchildren of commissars like Gaidar and Chubais with a frill lera, and exactly the same Traitor to the Motherland and Kvachkov and his comrades! and by the way, even criminals under their theft bring morality, so they did it and they do it, we did not say "with good intentions, the road to hell is paved."

        Well, let's start with the fact that Vlasov was a careerist and Stalil's favorite, and went over to the side of the Fritzes, supposing their victory. The Bolsheviks carried out only the February coup, thereby, if you understand in detail, they saved Russia from complete collapse. The army was not corrupted by them, but by the moral weakness and inadequacy of the country's top leadership, as well as multiple failures at the front, which could have been avoided with a more competent leadership. You can sing "God Save the Tsar" many times and expressively hang noodles about the great mission, etc. but for the soldiers sitting in the trenches this is only an additional irritant, in the end they begin to see the enemy in the highest power, not unreasonably by the way.

        As for Kvachkova, the accusation is the bullshit bullshit. And his fault is that he called things by their proper names, seeing the plunder of the country and the lawlessness of the country's leadership. Just when Sobchak, Navalny, Nemtsov and others talk about it, this is one thing. Their interests are understandable, PR, resentment for being excommunicated from the feeder, an attempt to get any benefits. They do not have much trust. But when a combat officer talks about it, it becomes dangerous, because it can undermine the position of those in power.
        1. Yoshkin Kot
          Yoshkin Kot 26 February 2013 11: 48
          -14%
          I absolutely do not care about the motives and excuses of Judas! DOT! CHANGE TO THE MOTHERLAND IT IS CHANGE TO THE MOTHERLAND! DOT! Anyone who seeks and finds an excuse for CHANGING THE HOMELAND! getting ready to commit CHANGE TO HOMELAND! DOT!
          1. Yoshkin Kot
            Yoshkin Kot 26 February 2013 12: 09
            -7
            enchanting! here we have people justifying treason! apparently for the sake of "ideals of a bright future"? apparently for the Jews, a bright future ??? like 1917?
            1. Ratibor12
              Ratibor12 26 February 2013 14: 57
              0
              Quote: Yoshkin Cat
              enchanting! here we have people justifying treason! apparently for the sake of "ideals of a bright future"?


              There is! See above!
          2. Ermak
            Ermak 26 February 2013 12: 13
            +16
            Why are you shouting ??? not spring yet ... where did you see treason there ??? Did the court tell you about this? reasoned? ))) They will not say that, not such nonsense yet ... Here people interpret that it is necessary to think, to think, and you, like a Boy-Kibalchish, are running around: "Changed, changed !!!" )))
            1. Yoshkin Kot
              Yoshkin Kot 26 February 2013 12: 22
              -10%
              nd, preparation for a military coup, is that ??????? ahh you wanted socialism! you do not mind to rob people, are you already forming CHON? traditionally from Latvians and Chinese? along with a criminal gopota? Commissar according to the tradition of the Jews you call? Nemtsov? aaa ukroinsky drawbar? Kasparova?
              1. Ermak
                Ermak 26 February 2013 12: 32
                +11
                What preparation ??? what a coup ??? laughing with pneumatics and a knife? Are you kidding? ..and where does socialism and rob? ... I do not understand the depth of your thoughts)
              2. Yoshkin Kot
                Yoshkin Kot 26 February 2013 12: 39
                -12%
                no? not Latvians with the Chinese ??? aaa I know Central Asians with Caucasians !!! for sure! you, like the true heirs of Lenin with the devil, are ready to kiss your gums! that would only ruin to the END of HOLY RUSSIA!
                1. Ermak
                  Ermak 26 February 2013 12: 47
                  +9
                  And, of course, a person is just trolling ...
                2. yak69
                  yak69 26 February 2013 13: 01
                  +1
                  Since when the devils about Holy Russia began to reason?
                  Even unusual ....
                3. yak69
                  yak69 26 February 2013 13: 04
                  +5
                  Quote: Yoshkin Cat
                  that would only ruin to the END of HOLY RUSSIA!

                  Since when the devils about Holy Russia began to reason?
                  Even unusual ....
                  1. Yoshkin Kot
                    Yoshkin Kot 26 February 2013 13: 19
                    -9
                    since 1917, you my friend did not know? Whose god is on Red Square?
                    1. yak69
                      yak69 26 February 2013 14: 06
                      +2
                      Quote: Yoshkin Cat
                      Whose god is on Red Square?

                      In esotericism there are such concepts as Avatar and Arhat. Arhats were Seraphim of Sarov, Sergius of Radonezh. This is a person who rose to spiritual heights during his lifetime. And the Avatar is the highest entity "sent" to Earth to help humanity in spiritual growth. The avatars were Buddha, Christ. They brought new teachings to people.
                      So, I will tell you a little secret - Ulyanov (Lenin) was also an Avatar. Like it or not, but it's a fact. He brought to mankind a new socio-economic state formation. In fact, he brought practical principles for the realization of the teachings of Christ. And in order to understand his ideas and realize the scale of his personality, one must have a cultural and intellectual potential higher than the average three-dimensional.
                      And you, dear, have obvious problems with culture and education.
                      1. Yoshkin Kot
                        Yoshkin Kot 27 February 2013 09: 04
                        -2
                        So he himself admitted, esoteric, for the follower of the Shikelgruber case?
                    2. valokordin
                      valokordin 26 February 2013 15: 04
                      +5
                      Quote: Yoshkin Cat
                      since 1917, you my friend did not know? Whose god is on Red Square?

                      And not God, but a respected Great Man, it is a pity that the Trotskyist Khrushch, so he was burping, evicted another great I.V.
                      1. Yoshkin Kot
                        Yoshkin Kot 27 February 2013 09: 05
                        0
                        ha-ha-ha !!! Vovka blank and his like-minded leader Bronstein, and of course their follower is a bastard !!!! true communists! It’s a pity that Joseph Vissarionovich didn’t press them all down! here is khrushch and revenge! wassat
                    3. Ratibor12
                      Ratibor12 26 February 2013 15: 18
                      +2
                      Quote: Yoshkin Cat
                      since 1917, you my friend did not know? Whose god is on Red Square?


                      "... The chief atheist is lying on Red Square.
                      A crowd of slaves flows towards him,
                      Not knowing that a demon goes there at night,
                      Sentinels will not tremble until the first cocks
                      There plans are being discussed by the CPSU ... "

                      Yes, I also love Talkov. smile Although my attitude towards him can be expressed in the words of Javar from the film "Do not be afraid, I'm with you": "Oh, how he sings! He takes my soul out of me! A little more and I won't be able to kill him! ..."
                      1. Metlik
                        Metlik 26 February 2013 20: 04
                        +2
                        go kill those who betrayed and destroyed my Country
                        Just a little more and I can’t kill him!

                        Judging by repeated calls to kill, your political ideal is Chikatilo
                      2. Yoshkin Kot
                        Yoshkin Kot 27 February 2013 09: 06
                        -2
                        in, in, on this basis, the Communists can and wrote down wassat
                      3. Ratibor12
                        Ratibor12 27 February 2013 13: 42
                        0
                        Quote: Metlik
                        Judging by repeated calls to kill, your political ideal is Chikatilo


                        good
                        Sumptuously! And I did not know that Chikatilo was a politician! And it turns out he was simply fulfilling his political program !!!
                    4. Yoshkin Kot
                      Yoshkin Kot 27 February 2013 09: 06
                      -1
                      Well, Russophobia Forever !!!
        2. Hon
          Hon 26 February 2013 12: 33
          +13
          Quote: Yoshkin Cat
          I absolutely do not care about the motives and excuses of Judas! DOT! CHANGE TO THE MOTHERLAND IT IS CHANGE TO THE MOTHERLAND! DOT! Anyone who seeks and finds an excuse for CHANGING THE HOMELAND! getting ready to commit CHANGE TO HOMELAND! DOT!

          And what does your MOTHERLAND look like ?! The law enforcement authorities covering crime is the HOMELAND ?! Drunk officials, prosecutors, deputies knocking people down is the HOMELAND ?! Thieves in law, oligarchs, OURS, beggarly salaries, corruption that has become a system, can it be a HOMELAND ?!

          For me, the HOMELAND in such officers as Kvachkov, Budanov, Rokhlin, so they are my HOMELAND!
          1. Yoshkin Kot
            Yoshkin Kot 26 February 2013 12: 52
            -6
            do you think of the Kurbs? there were no excuses? Vlasov? Do you think Vlasov did not compare himself with the TRUE HEROES OF RUSSIA Minin and Pozharsky ???
            nice habit of believing that this is the motherland, and this is not the motherland! You do not have a homeland and never when! For me, the Motherland appeared not yesterday, not 1991, not in 1917, it appeared in Lord Veliky Novgorod, when the United Russian State began to form from the East Slavic, mainly tribes. Since the times of Equal-to-the-Apostles Vladimir, and not the Jewish philosopher K. Marx. My army was born under Rakovor and on Kalka, on Don and Poltava, on Molody and during the defense of Moscow Kiev, that in the 13th century, that in the 17th, that in the 19th, that in the 20th century.
            My Motherland, these are my ancestors dying for Faith! Tsar and Fatherland! Passed Russo-Turkish, Great, both Patriotic, relatives and friends passed Afghanistan and Both Chechen.
            1. valokordin
              valokordin 26 February 2013 15: 08
              +2
              You are also looking for excuses for your delusional conclusions, well, what do you love Vlasov, Golda Meer, Harry Truman and Churchill Winston, Benes, and Pilsudsky, Imre Nagy and Sikorsky. (not to be confused with Igor)
              1. Yoshkin Kot
                Yoshkin Kot 27 February 2013 09: 07
                -1
                do not attribute to me your feelings for Judas, be ashamed to express your sympathies so openly wassat
        3. Ratibor12
          Ratibor12 26 February 2013 14: 56
          0
          Quote: Yoshkin Cat
          I absolutely do not care about the motives and excuses of Judas! DOT! CHANGE TO THE MOTHERLAND IT IS CHANGE TO THE MOTHERLAND! DOT! Anyone who seeks and finds an excuse for CHANGING THE HOMELAND! getting ready to commit CHANGE TO HOMELAND! DOT!


          Citizens! We apologize for the failure by telegraph. The corrector sent an updated and certified version:

          Quote: Yoshkin Cat
          CHANGE TO THE HOMELAND? I absolutely do not care! DOT! I’m getting ready to commit CHANGE TO HOMELAND myself! DOT!
          1. Yoshkin Kot
            Yoshkin Kot 27 February 2013 09: 08
            -2
            here, well, why, then, give out your own aspirations to the ratiborushko? wassat
            1. Ratibor12
              Ratibor12 27 February 2013 13: 49
              +1
              Did the cat begin to give up? The sweet purr gradually grows into a funeral howl!
    3. Yoshkin Kot
      Yoshkin Kot 26 February 2013 12: 27
      -4
      so you probably condemn me for condemning those who fought against the Red Army? during the Great Patriotic War ???? I understand you Judas gentlemen correctly? wassat
      1. Ratibor12
        Ratibor12 27 February 2013 13: 55
        +1
        Quote: Yoshkin Cat
        so you probably condemn me for condemning those who fought against the Red Army? during the Great Patriotic War ???? I understand you Judas gentlemen correctly?


        Lift my eyelids! I do not see! There he is! Last of Mohicans patriots! Catch him! Grab it! Gobble it up cock cry the first sounds of the anthem!
    4. Bismark
      Bismark 26 February 2013 21: 00
      +3
      I may not support all Kvachkov’s ideas, but as a military officer I respect him. soldier This is a big mistake of the authorities to imprison him and even with such an echo in the media.
      1. CTEPX
        CTEPX 27 February 2013 04: 26
        +1
        Power - it is very different now).
        According to my observations, mass political actions, their organizational part, in these years were financed from two sources. The first source is controlled by, say, the acting commander in chief, the second source ... I think he can draw up a conditional name - the Gorbachev Foundation, uniting ... who the hell! including and the current prime minister).

        I'm afraid they will be deleted again No.
      2. Yoshkin Kot
        Yoshkin Kot 27 February 2013 09: 09
        +1
        Gaddafi’s big mistake wasn’t to shoot down the evolutionaries! The big mistake of Nicholas II was not to shoot a couple of thousand Evoys, and confiscate all their property from their families! wassat
    5. cortel
      cortel 26 February 2013 23: 29
      0
      Kvachkov is a Russian patriot, otherwise the State Department would have stood up for him.
      1. Yoshkin Kot
        Yoshkin Kot 27 February 2013 09: 11
        -3
        hmm, not yet evening
    6. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 27 February 2013 10: 57
      +1
      The cat, you are aware that the witnesses in the court refused to testify, but the court did not take this into account, this is not the court, this is FARS !! When ours come to power, all these traitors will answer in full, and therefore keep their relatives and stolen over the hill !! They feel that the people will not endure for a long time, felled in advance !!! A CASE fabricated !!! And sewn with white thread !! Therefore, the trial was closed! A SHAME!!!!!
    7. Urrry
      Urrry 27 February 2013 15: 43
      +1
      But what about Minin and Pozharsky? What is their place in that list? A military campaign against Moscow was organized against the "official" authorities :) ...
      Although, in general, this is not about: the main question is whether Kvachkov did what he was accused of? Was the "threat of a military mutiny" emanating from him real? For doubts remain ... these crossbows, whether they are wrong, and the "disclosure" of this rebellion itself immediately after an acquittal in another case is painful to revenge
    8. Region-25.rus
      Region-25.rus 1 March 2013 04: 14
      0
      Quote: Yoshkin Cat
      but Treason remains Treason!


      Do not confuse my friend for betraying the homeland and betraying the government and its policies! These are often different things! fool
    9. vyatom
      vyatom 1 March 2013 12: 51
      0
      All is correctly said. What kind of clowns are minus?
  2. Nicholas C.
    Nicholas C. 26 February 2013 10: 02
    +21
    Quote: domokl
    Our state security system and law enforcement system were completely overlooked.

    In this case, calling the system OUR language does not turn, the body protests. More likely - occupational. Chubais rule the country. And who are they, if not the occupiers? (There is a certain degree of respect for the person in power - how much control is the current situation in Russia?)

    Therefore, THEIR security system was not guessed, but performed its nasty work.
    1. Yoshkin Kot
      Yoshkin Kot 26 February 2013 11: 10
      -18%
      Well, of course, you're my friend, apparently a patriot of Mars!
      1. Yoshkin Kot
        Yoshkin Kot 26 February 2013 12: 10
        -5
        not a fig myself I guessed ????? ahtung! ahtung !!! mars atakue !!! wassat
        1. Yoshkin Kot
          Yoshkin Kot 26 February 2013 13: 19
          -3
          and really atakue !!!! tongue
        2. Ratibor12
          Ratibor12 26 February 2013 15: 21
          +1
          Quote: Yoshkin Cat
          not a fig myself I guessed ????? ahtung! ahtung !!! mars atakue !!!

          Quote: Yoshkin Cat
          really atakue !!!


          That yes! And you, Saturn, no longer pour! stop
      2. yak69
        yak69 26 February 2013 18: 34
        +3
        YshkinoKota can be congratulated on the anti-title of the anti-senior!
        Today he is more than ever starred!
        Soon it will become anti-marshal, and there it is not far from a liberalist!
        hi laughing
        1. Yoshkin Kot
          Yoshkin Kot 27 February 2013 09: 13
          -2
          hee-hee-hee-hee-hee I am a 41-year-old child, self-esteem does not need any comments in the form of a forum "title", unlike you, child, forgive me, for my condescending attitude towards you, you have not yet passed the feeling of youth maximalism on the one hand and on the other hand, personal experience did not appear that allows separating the crackling ideological noodles from reality wassat
          1. Ratibor12
            Ratibor12 27 February 2013 14: 35
            +3
            Quote: Yoshkin Cat
            hee hee hee hee hee me 41 year old baby

            Quote: Yoshkin Cat
            about ... whether the COUNTRY!


            So 41 years. That is, in 1991 he was already moderately well-fed man in full bloom! And you didn’t protect our Motherland, but you ... ruled it? Then the price is now worth your lament.
            Poor old castrated cat! Do not teach others how to care for cats!
          2. yak69
            yak69 27 February 2013 21: 07
            +2
            Quote: Yoshkin Cat
            I’m 41 years old,

            Wow, he lived to be 40 years old, but he never made a mind! Did not teach you, Dima Kuzin, your older parents respect. And what other dignity are you talking about ?! One who has dignity will never go down to vulgar expressions addressed to another person. And you, no matter the word, then anger and hatred of everyone around. So, we don’t need to tell us about our pocket dignity - today women also wear trousers.

            But the culture of communication (or its complete absence) speaks a lot about a person.
  3. older
    older 26 February 2013 10: 31
    +21
    Law enforcement officers and the judiciary have not been bullied - they have eaten in shit for a long time As for people - they were interested in such things before, but, unfortunately, the authorities can not oppose anything. And for a military officer, it’s really insulting ...
    1. domokl
      domokl 26 February 2013 10: 59
      +4
      Quote: older
      - they eat in shit for a long time
      Sergey, what about tolerance? laughing It is necessary to write in manure ... But in fact it’s right
    2. Yoshkin Kot
      Yoshkin Kot 26 February 2013 11: 11
      -16%
      I agree that in 17 they began to kill Russians, like mad dogs, and continue to this day, who is the Russian people for "you" my friend? so g.o. and!
      1. Ratibor12
        Ratibor12 26 February 2013 15: 26
        +1
        Quote: Yoshkin Cat
        I agree that in 17 they began to kill Russians, like mad dogs, and continue to this day, who is the Russian people for "you" my friend? so g.o. and!


        Have you already been killed by sir, or have you rubbed the goy paste in time ??? lol
  4. Sasha 19871987
    Sasha 19871987 26 February 2013 10: 55
    +13
    oh, and in a magical land I live, normal men, war heroes with their opinions are closed for 13 years under a tough article, while the ki who plundered my country live happily ...
    1. Yoshkin Kot
      Yoshkin Kot 26 February 2013 11: 13
      -12%
      Yeah, the preparation of an armed coup, is this apparently an opinion? Yes, he is a loser! however, like the entire system of the 80s, about ... whether the COUNTRY! they couldn’t overwhelm Chubais, liquidating themselves upon ... His Holiness.
      1. not good
        not good 26 February 2013 11: 20
        +11
        Yoshkin, a cat wassat
        1. Yoshkin Kot
          Yoshkin Kot 26 February 2013 11: 49
          -5
          wassat I haven’t been smoking since 2000, but I don’t personally think that nariks are not people
          1. not good
            not good 26 February 2013 11: 53
            +6
            That's for this +, although you read your comments laughing
            1. Yoshkin Kot
              Yoshkin Kot 26 February 2013 12: 11
              -8
              n-dya, but did not try to strangle ideology? for example Marxism? in itself? and look at what is unbiased? Ie sober ... a neo-Marxist look?
              1. Che
                Che 26 February 2013 15: 28
                +1
                Yoshkin Cat,
                I don’t want and can’t look at the liberals.
                1. Yoshkin Kot
                  Yoshkin Kot 27 February 2013 09: 14
                  0
                  of course, but nothing that Marxism in particular and socialism in general is just an offshoot of the Jewish liberal "anti-Christian" thought ???
              2. Ratibor12
                Ratibor12 26 February 2013 15: 44
                +1
                Quote: Yoshkin Cat
                I haven’t been smoking since 2000, but I don’t personally think that nariks are not people


                Quote: Yoshkin Cat
                n-dya, but did not try to strangle ideology? for example Marxism? in itself? and look at what is unbiased? Ie sober ... a neo-Marxist look?


                Something you hurt a lot of things you like to press. You are either a press or a yogi. Press because not in yourself but in others. A yogi, because in the field of curbing desires. About ideology just started ... And you probably still a press! But only "ideological press"!
                If you are still a yogi, then, along with smoking, suppress your sexual desire to write any hehe hehe ... I’m on the Internet. (No, no, don’t listen to me! Write! I collect Internet freaks! good ) And you will reach enlightenment already in life! yes
                1. Yoshkin Kot
                  Yoshkin Kot 27 February 2013 09: 15
                  -1
                  um, and now try to repeat it articulate? (literally)
                  1. Ratibor12
                    Ratibor12 27 February 2013 14: 48
                    +1
                    Quote: Yoshkin Cat
                    um, and now try to repeat it articulate? (literally)


                    Well, if for the unlit, it can be easier! Yoshkin cat! Engage in self-education and, if successful, in the next life (or at least on another site) you will become a man! wink
      2. Yoshkin Kot
        Yoshkin Kot 26 February 2013 13: 56
        -5
        By the way, I personally sympathized with Kvachkova when he couldn’t shoot Chubais until he got rid of the Russian Church, so let him sit and think
      3. Volkhov
        Volkhov 26 February 2013 22: 04
        +3
        Quote: Yoshkin Cat
        preparation for an armed coup


        Just filter - Kvachkov is a man of Chekists, he is being trained as the leader of the patriots, for the role of Susanin, and Khabarov is an idealist, they used him as an example.
        Here everyone quarreled on the topic of revolution, and this is not only a crossbow, but at first an ideology suitable for the majority and not so much an overthrow as a creation - a society, a people that Russians do not have as a structure - only biomass.
        If you want to understand what the system is in relation to people - understand the situation with the Chelyabinsk "meteorite" a little deeper than broken glass.
        1. Yoshkin Kot
          Yoshkin Kot 27 February 2013 09: 16
          -2
          hee hee hee hee Putin is not Nikolai, don’t dream to plunder Russia again, stop feeding the Jews!
          1. Volkhov
            Volkhov 27 February 2013 11: 43
            +3
            Quote: Yoshkin Cat
            stop feeding the Jews!


            Are they feeding themselves badly while in the Kremlin? The crux of the matter is not in the amount of "food" at all, but in the fact that Russians are in the position of cattle - without information, prospects, or the possibility of communication. Not everyone likes the position of a well-fed pig.
      4. Nord007hold
        Nord007hold 26 February 2013 23: 26
        +6
        Coup? This is ridiculous, the case is clearly sewn with white thread!
        And if a GRU officer with such experience and preparation planned to overwhelm Chubais, he would overwhelm him.
        1. vjatsergey
          vjatsergey 27 February 2013 00: 25
          +5
          Totally agree with you! I do not believe that the GRU officer of the old sourdough conceived to bang and failed. There are still many white spots, truly dark. Also with a coup.
          1. Yoshkin Kot
            Yoshkin Kot 27 February 2013 09: 17
            -2
            easily, by the 80s Soviet services had already degenerated, otherwise an alliance would not have gone without a hitch!
        2. Yoshkin Kot
          Yoshkin Kot 27 February 2013 09: 17
          -3
          but what a "specialist" he is! Chubais and then could not fill up!
  5. w.ebdo.g
    w.ebdo.g 26 February 2013 14: 53
    +11
    what if they just want to make a leader out of him for all sorts of white petals?
    it didn’t work out, but now they took a patriot man from a respected GRU combat unit ...
    They made a demonstration, they sent to prison, everything, now he is a sufferer and blessed ...
    and immediately all the media picked up the topic as if on command and everywhere it is circulated. something reminds ... or it seems to me?

    something seems to me that the loosening of the protest movement is taking place on several fronts at once, somewhere it will break through ...

    these are just my conclusions. I'm not trying to convince anyone.

    I think so.

  6. Rusich
    Rusich 26 February 2013 15: 56
    +21
    LET IT BE SO !!! .................
    1. yak69
      yak69 26 February 2013 17: 26
      +2
      Bravo! The poster is super !!
      It is necessary to paste it wherever possible - let the liberals feel the people's "love"!
      1. Yoshkin Kot
        Yoshkin Kot 27 February 2013 09: 18
        +1
        n-dya, what other children are you, as in the photo there will never be, such freaks as Chubais or die in their bed or from acute lead poisoning bully
  7. vjhbc
    vjhbc 26 February 2013 19: 09
    +2
    no one has guessed this lesson and GRU warning
  8. rus_tem
    rus_tem 27 February 2013 10: 12
    +3
    In the richest country (without any exaggeration), which has everything necessary for sustainable development without outside help! We have a whole range of mineral resources, a raw material base, world oil and gas reserves, a unique energy system, a highly educated population, and skilled middle managers. So what's the deal? We do not have one thing - the concept of using all of the aforementioned for the benefit of our own people on the basis of a single program-targeted approach. Instead, we work through well-intentioned government structures for a biblical concept of governance that is alien to us. Her being does not need to be searched in the archives of Western intelligence agencies. It is openly and intelligibly stated in the Bible and gives the owners the doctrine of "Deuteronomy - Isaiah" on the methods of financial enslavement of entire countries and peoples.
    “Do not give to your brother growth neither silver nor bread, nor anything else that you can give to growth, give a foreigner to growth, but do not give your brother to growth.” (Deuteronomy 23:19), "... and you will lend to many nations, and you will not borrow on your own [and you will rule over many nations, and they will not rule over you.] (Deuteronomy 28:12)" Then “the sons of foreigners will build your walls, and their kings to serve you, the people and kingdoms who do not want to serve you will perish, and such peoples will be completely destroyed.” (Isaiah 60:10 - 12)
    The result of this global legitimized theft is also given in foreign literature (M. Kennedy, “Money without interest and inflation,” Sweden, 1993). On average, using the loan interest mechanism, “developed” countries transfer $ 100 million daily to “developing” countries, and receive from them in the form of refunds and interest of 200 million dollars. Here you have the whole secret of "economic success."
    Present-day Russia is living proof of the power of this doctrine of slavery. It is only necessary to compare the "help" that we are provided with and those treasures that are pumped out of us through the loan interest and the schemes of direct robbery of the country based on it, as everything becomes clear. The doctrine "Deuteronomy - Isaiah" is published in the book, on the title page, which means: "With the blessing of His Holiness Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia Alexy II."
    If we turn to the Qur'an, then it will become clear to us why the whole world is frightened by some abstraction called “Islamic fundamentalism”, instilling a thoughtlessly negative attitude towards Islam and, ultimately, the Qur'an. The fact is that
    The Koran at economic priority directly opposes the Bible and regards the provision of interest-bearing money as the most serious sin. “Those who take interest will rise [on the Day of Judgment], just as the one whom Satan turned into a madman with his touch will rise. This is a punishment for them for saying: "Truly, trade is the same as more than that." But Allah permitted trade, forbade interest. If an admonition from Allah comes to someone [of the moneylenders], and if he does according to this admonition, then his past sins will be forgiven ”(Quran, Sura 2: 275. It is quoted here in the translation of Sablukov. In the Quran in the translation of Krachkovsky“ more than "Sounds like" growth ", that is, usury:" Allah permitted trade, but forbade GROWTH ").
    1. yak69
      yak69 28 February 2013 19: 54
      +2
      Quote: rus_tem
      The doctrine "Deuteronomy - Isaiah" is published in the book, on the title page, which means: "With the blessing of His Holiness Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia Alexy II."

      One point must be understood and strictly differentiated here. The Bible is the Pentateuch of Moses (Law) or the Jewish THKh (not to be confused with the Torah and Talmud!) And in Orthodoxy it is used as a kind of preface to understanding the words of Jesus in the New Testament, since Jesus often refers to the Law (THX) in his speeches. The teaching on loan interest and in general about Jewish business is given in detail in the Kabbalah (Book of Zohar and Sefer Yetzirah). And for simpler and more everyday use, Kizzur Shulchan Aruch was created - which is a real "Jewish upbringing". It is saturated with chauvinism and hatred for all non-Jews, that is, for GOYAM. Hence the expression "he is from the goyim" (an outcast is not a Jew). Hitler directly drew the foundations of fascist ideology from this "manual".
      But here you also need to clearly understand that all these books form the basis of Zionism, but not Jewry in general. A Zionist and a Jew are far from always the same. Zionism is obscurantist, satanic and cannibalistic ideology, and Jewry is a nationality like any other on earth.
      So, in order to expose the enemy and be able to defeat him, you must understand this enemy and thoroughly study his ideology. And it is imperative, in this struggle, to be as precise and correct as possible - this interethnic topic is very scrupulous!
  9. SASCHAmIXEEW
    SASCHAmIXEEW 27 February 2013 10: 30
    +1
    It has not been guessed, the court and the investigation showed how strong we have 5 callons and how many unprincipled and corrupt ghouls in the FSB, there is only one way to fight, to remove these ghouls from power, for this, I think all methods are good, there is a war against RUSSIA, war as in war, they destroy the patriots of RUSSIA so why do not we destroy them, all the liquidationists are in sight !!
  10. lucidlook
    lucidlook 27 February 2013 16: 23
    +1
    All those who come to life all the same in one fell swoop will be recorded as accomplices of the State Department. Sense?
  11. NordUral
    NordUral 3 May 2018 17: 40
    0
    They got rid of it, I agree, but these are all in shit - and nothing - rule the country as they can and as ordered.
    But on the example of the colonel they want to show us - sit quietly and do not blather.
    I almost regretted that we did not have the dashing guards of Catherine, but then, frightened, I thought, and maybe for the better.
    Although history has shown that their purely personal interests have been to the benefit of the Empire. Thoughts run up, it’s impossible to vote correctly, and many don’t want to.
    The last coup attempt - GKChP - is a parody of the coup, but it would be a pity if there were decisive people in their place, the USSR would not be in poverty right now, and the world would be different.
    And about the colonel. We must fight for his freedom, and put him for our interests.
  • Z.A.M.
    Z.A.M. 26 February 2013 09: 21
    +37
    Leonid Ivashov: The real fascist is not Kvachkov, but ChubaisQ: Shortly before the verdict was announced, Kvachkov said that "the people have the right to revolt." How should these words be interpreted in this situation?
    A: Yes, this is not Kvachkova words. There is a universal declaration on the law of peoples. We always talk about human rights as an individual, but the rights of peoples are higher than the individual. In Libya, an uprising was organized, it was immediately recognized, in Syria they also recognize the rebels, that is, in the West they recognize the right to rebellion, although there was external aggression. Russia, as a member of the international community, is also in this state of recognition of the people's right to revolt.
    Q: After the change of the Minister of Defense, many expected a review of the case of Kvachkov, Khabarov and others, but this did not happen, why, what do you think?
    A: It is not the business of the Minister of Defense to interfere in legal proceedings, this is prohibited. But last Saturday, February 9, the All-Russian Officer Meeting took place. This issue was not the main one there, but it was actively discussed. Why Serdyukov, who really undermined the country's defense, flies with guards, with guards, and those who verbally expressed dissatisfaction with what is happening in Russia, they were put in jail, under strict regime, and even for such a period. We give less to those who commit massacres. That's what the statement of the All-Russian Officer Meeting was made about, which contains a demand for the resignation of Prime Minister Medvedev and a demand to arrest and start a criminal case, finally, on this fraudster, on this traitor to the homeland. This is what is said in the statement of the officer meeting.
    Q: 11 years of strict regime are required for Khabarov, the announcement will take place on February 21. Here, by analogy, one should expect the same harsh sentence, what do you think?
    A: According to Khabarov, wildness in general. I watched the decision on his criminal prosecution, showed it to the old experienced lawyers, so they laugh. “At an unspecified time in an unidentified place I met with unidentified persons with the aim of organizing a coup and seizing power in Yekaterinburg.” I know Leonid Vasilievich, this is the legend of the airborne troops, this is a man wounded in Afghanistan, a great patriot, and will he really do such stupid things? Moreover, a certain Ermakov who “organized” the coup is a clear provocateur. Today he was recognized insane, crazy, and his testimony underlies the charges against Khabarov. Well, we have Themis. Interestingly, the deadlines for Khabarov and Kvachkov are approximately the same. This is a planned action organized, coordinated. Chubais ordered, and our Themis took "under the hood", that's all.
    Q: And can such court decisions provoke the growth of protest moods, affect the regime in some way?
    A: All of these processes build up protest potential. Confidence in power is falling. And once the quantitative indicators go into quality, into action. Everything goes to this. This imperious oligarchy now needs to keep its capital here, to keep Russia in a colony condition, to plunder further, they need to intimidate the most active part of the population, and the rest will crush. We see how more and more people are being sucked and sucked from the population under the guise of "so in the West." But there can be no endless occupation.
    A source: blog.kp.ru here is more detailed.
    1. sams
      sams 26 February 2013 10: 02
      +18
      Quote: Z.A.M.
      “At an unspecified time in an unidentified place I met with unidentified persons with the aim of organizing a coup and seizing power in Yekaterinburg”

      The place, time, circumstances of the crime, the method, means and instruments of the crime are signs of the objective side of the crime.
      Along with the object, subject and subjective side, the objective side is an indispensable element of corpus delicti.
      If the objective side is not established and is not presented in the materials of the investigation, then accordingly the suspect cannot transfer to the status of the accused due to the lack of evidence of corpus delicti in his actions. And the criminal prosecution must be stopped.
      1. Z.A.M.
        Z.A.M. 26 February 2013 10: 24
        +6
        sams
        Quote: sams
        Along with the object, subject and subjective side, the objective side is an indispensable element of corpus delicti.
        wink You feel a fellow lawyer. wink

        Quote: sams
        And the criminal prosecution must be stopped.

        Yes, if you follow the theory of the criminal process. But... request
        I have no words ...
        Quote: Gogh
        this is an indicative flogging, so that it would be disgraceful for others,
        1. Z.A.M.
          Z.A.M. 26 February 2013 12: 15
          +10
          And at the same time -

          Former deputy head of Uralvagonzavod Semyon Mlodik released on bail

          The court found that the attempt to go abroad does not contradict the conditions of bail.The Supreme Court of the Chuvash Republic changed the measure of restraint to the ex-deputy general director of Uralvagonzavod Semyon Mlodik, releasing him from custody on bail. As Mlodik’s lawyers told Izvestia, he has already been released.
          47-year-old Mlodik accused of embezzlement shares of Promtractor-Wagon CJSC, where he also chaired the board of directors, 273 million rubles. He, as well as the general director of RZhDS-Region LLC Svetlana Romanova, is charged with fraud (under Art. 4, Art. 159 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation) and money laundering (under Art. 2, Art. 174.1 of the Criminal Code). On February 13 this year, Mlodik was detained while trying to leave the country at Sheremetyevo Airport, from where he intended to fly to Kiev. Earlier, on October 6, 2012, the Moscow District Court of Cheboksary after making a deposit of 20 million rubles freed Semyon Mlodik from the temporary detention center.“The ruling of the judicial collegium for criminal cases of the Supreme Court of the Chuvash Republic is unprecedented: it is quite difficult to obtain release on bail in such cases in the Russian judicial practice,” said Viktoriya Burkovskaya, lawyer for Mlodik from Egorov Puginsky Afanasyev & Partners Law Firm. - But the court reasonably considered that Mlodik was detained illegally: such a separate preventive measure as a pledge does not imply restrictions on leaving the country. After all, there was no talk of a recognizance not to leave.
          Maria Kunle
          Source: izvestia.ru

          From the comments above, I noticed one "not adequate". Valeryanki sniffed whether? wassat
    2. psdf
      psdf 27 February 2013 17: 14
      +1
      Looking at the current situation, one gets the impression that in the 90s there were stable groups of professional provocateurs working on the topic of patriotism - translating those interested in patriotism into extremism (sometimes directly pushing). Most likely, these groups of people had good careers in those years.
      Now established and strengthened groups simply go into politics, develop their careers. For this, there are "resonant" cases and "rescue" of large businessmen from non-existent problems.
      Having strengthened, such structures begin to dictate their conditions.
      PS Please note that the "work" of the majority of "extremist" movements painfully resembles the rhetoric (slogans, terminology) of the leaders of the "Komsomol", "pioneers" (organizers). They just changed the polarity of their work to justify their need. We created "movements" with which they "successfully" fight.
  • Boris55
    Boris55 26 February 2013 09: 49
    +2
    Even if you imagine that Kvachkov seized power - what next?

    Another redistribution of property? Again Russian Russians will ferment each other's faces? Or does someone think that the alegators will so easily part with their good? Officials all of a sudden all at once will be "kind"? Will the West suddenly abandon the regular tribute from Russia? Don't get your hopes up! They will be here, with our hands, to defend their goods.

    In the meantime, in Moscow they will share power, the outskirts will say a to x .. do we need you? We have oil, gold, diamonds, timber, fish. We ourselves with a mustache ... So much for the fulfillment of the plan of the Hustin project for the collapse of Russia ...

    So who is Kvachkov after that? Who, in fact, did he work for? As comrade asked. Stalin: "Is it an enemy or a fool"?

    Russia has a peaceful way of changing power. The answer to the question of how to do this - read on the KPI website (or write to me in PM - I will answer, as I understand it)

    Sorry for the man ...
    1. Snake4
      Snake4 26 February 2013 11: 48
      +3
      In addition, the presence of even an airsoft drive, which is not even a weapon under the law, can already be incriminated as preparation for an uprising, let alone crossbows and penknives ...
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 26 February 2013 11: 59
        +3
        At all times, in all societies organized on the principle of "states", the entire vertical of power, including the judiciary, is on guard of the system. And if someone thinks that this is purely our invention, he is deeply mistaken. It is not necessary to change "chubais", it is necessary to change the system, the very principle of building a society on the principle of "states". Kvachkov wanted to change the evil master to good (but all the same - master), without changing the system...

        In order to change something, you need to know what remains to be changed. About the power of the government: http://klin.hutt.ru/viewtopic.php?id=3
  • Averias
    Averias 26 February 2013 09: 55
    +12
    Anti beer law, anti tobacco law, housing and communal services prices, the trial of Kvachkov - all this, a massive release to undermine the authority of the authorities. After all, what can bring people to white heat, correctly, with absurd laws and ridiculous sentences to ordinary people, of which Mr. Kvachkov is.
    This is a very tricky manipulation, and most importantly on time. Against the background of massive disclosures of corruption schemes and thefts, the main defendants are free, and the question of their arrest is a pitchfork on the water. And then, clap, a harsh sentence to Mr. Kvachkov. Well, this is a classic, of course, the people immediately reared up, as it were, real criminals are free, and then they condemned a man on the charge that the court did not understand that either.
    If you think about it, such a pro as Kvachkov (and there are simply no others in the GRU), would he not have organized a so-called "group" like that? And as you know, in such structures, the former does not exist.
    Here is the conclusion, this is to someone’s hand very much. And to whom, guess for yourself.
    1. Larus
      Larus 26 February 2013 10: 09
      +6
      This government has no authority for a long time, so it is there with a pitchfork. But Putin still succeeds in the appearance of a strict boss who "punishes" negligent officials, but there is nowhere to go any further. I would like to really restore order in the country, then I would take to leading and key posts not my homies, but honest people who love their Motherland.
  • Larus
    Larus 26 February 2013 10: 00
    +2
    What is there to discuss, if everything is clear from where the wind blows (or shit) ...
    1. Yoshkin Kot
      Yoshkin Kot 27 February 2013 09: 19
      -5
      Of course, shit flies from the Judeo-Marxists to Russia, including I’m fond of you, French
  • Download Do Re Mi
    Download Do Re Mi 26 February 2013 10: 11
    +11
    Justice is done by those who are in power, and sentences will be given by their justice! After all, the system cannot punish itself! And they also shut down Khabarov, set up Budanov, chocked up Mother Russia, and on TV yesterday: I'm shocked by the housing and communal services ( Putin said)! So if there is a mess in the country, it can only be from the mess, nobody feels that there will be a punishment! Power plays with fire, which will burn everything in its path when it flares up to the point of no return! Sometimes it seems that everything is special this is happening so that a civil war would break out in Russia!
  • Aleksey43
    Aleksey43 26 February 2013 10: 11
    +15
    It is necessary to judge not Kvachkova, but Serdyukov and the company for treason ...
  • bdolah
    bdolah 26 February 2013 10: 22
    +13
    The story of Kvachkov is a disgrace to the current corruption authorities. You can put the minuses said this and I will say, because if you are silent today, then tomorrow any patriot and any of us may be in the same situation.
  • Prokop
    Prokop 26 February 2013 10: 26
    +18
    Comparing the actions of the courts in relation to Kvachkov and Khabarov with the actions against Serdyukov and Co., we are once again convinced that the court is the litmus paper of the so-called elite, the degree of meanness of which has reached incredible heights!
  • Egoza
    Egoza 26 February 2013 10: 42
    +11
    I am not an evil person, but I sincerely wish Chubais to really get into some fatal disaster. Or so that he would be rewarded "for all the good" and not sometime later, but even during this life.
  • straiser
    straiser 26 February 2013 10: 44
    +11
    The Kvachkov case is primarily a political process and not a criminal one. He went against the system and the system punished him. I feel sorry for him humanly. I wish him strong patience.
  • Ruswolf
    Ruswolf 26 February 2013 10: 52
    +13
    Do not argue about the situation, do not discuss the cook ... but the meaning is the same as always
    - If someone was imprisoned, then someone needs it ...
    - If someone is not imprisoned, but they are at home, then this also needs someone .....

    Question:
    - When they put someone who needs all this ?!

    Answer:
    - When it becomes very necessary we will!
  • Renat
    Renat 26 February 2013 11: 28
    +3
    The bare truth about the country's judicial system. The most humane in the world.
  • Very smart
    Very smart 26 February 2013 11: 32
    +7
    I wonder how the complete nerd Kvachkov (according to the court version) rose to the rank of colonel of the GRU? If he is a "real colonel," then he is not at all an idiot. The case is clearly sewn with white threads over the edge! The court and the investigation themselves signed their full ideotism and order! Sane worthy honored person - and such an idiotic accusation. Already for crossing the road in the wrong place would be planted, and that would be more pradlike! And the sentence is 12 years, and the murderers and rapists are given suspended sentences. The system is in ..... !!!!!
    Question: who needs this ??? Who ordered ??? The question is serious. The article is very difficult. To whom could Kvachkov annoy, and not weakly annoy? Chubchik? But they were acquitted in that case. Did Kvachkov not belong to any organization of special services veterans that got out of the control of the authorities? And for the wit planted. But for fear, too much was given.
    In general, the matter is dark. I’m sorry for the man. UDO is clearly not shining for him. All hope for the Supreme Court. By the way, in the first case (with Chubchik) only the higher courts sorted out. So, ordering at the city level. Is logical.
  • Georgs
    Georgs 26 February 2013 11: 32
    +14
    Damn, sorry grandfather, right grandfather. One hope that his foulness will pour out to the red-haired immature bloodsucker.
  • dmb
    dmb 26 February 2013 11: 32
    +7
    Somewhere I heard it before: vicious, insidious investigators and judges. and a naive kind leader, who has no time to figure out the thoughts of the Motherland, the fate of some colonels there. Those like patriots and with orders, but also see the Trotskyists and mercenaries of the world behind the scenes. Or maybe the leader doesn’t even know that some colonels are for the state. coup planted. In our country, they are imprisoned every day for coups. Naive Chukchi children. (This is me to those fellow citizens who seriously believe that processes of this level are taking place without the attention and influence of the country's leadership. You will also tell about the procedural independence of FSB investigators).
    By the way, this process is very indicative of the definition of patriotism. Objectively, it is not necessary to say that all three colonels are patriots, because two of their convictions are clearly against the third. They are blamed for the fact that they wanted to drive the third. Well, in particular, as always, the Yoshkar-Ola public pleased with its erudition. But only to whom von Pannwitz cheated, I can’t imagine.
  • gladiatorakz
    gladiatorakz 26 February 2013 11: 48
    +7
    Eeeh there have been no Russian riots and pogroms for a long time. They press, crush, but the people endure everything and pull their neck into a yoke. Where are you, the Russian Spirit? As Vladimir Semyonich sang: "There are few real violent, so there are no leaders." It may very well happen that the people will want their own Jurisdiction. Then hold on !! Rope will take a lot. A hero to freedom!
    Another reason I remembered the Decembrists. Who is stopping 10-20 thousand paratroopers and officers from building on Red Square in support of the TRUTH?
  • Tartary
    Tartary 26 February 2013 11: 53
    +1
    And for sure, people are getting angrier every day ...
    On my own I feel ... From all sides, wherever you throw - everywhere a wedge ... recourse
    It seems that everything that happens looks like a long-awaited struggle with annoying "isms", but you get up another morning and realize that something is wrong ... Something really doesn't like me at all, my morning mood ... winked
    The wife here still saws as always: - take out the tree, but take it out ... fool And to me the first what reason? To strain once again?
    Further more...
    Neighbor - a villain, as always, lights his cigarette at the entrance, and not on the street ... He didn’t read the hoopoe of the adopted law? I’ll go and beat the melon ... angry
    Other neighbors always let their dog, barking in the porch like crazy, let out at the wrong time - I’m still sleeping, I’m already falling asleep ... They are completely covered with frost. fool
    Etc. etc. - a lot more ... but the hand is tired of pounding on the "keyboard" ... lol
    In short, if Motherland calls tomorrow, I’ll go ... at least some Chinese or any other of the Gaster rests ... am - you look let go ...
    Ask: - what if they roll you over?

    But I’m thinking: - But for what ????????????????????? request
  • valokordin
    valokordin 26 February 2013 12: 01
    +2
    Even a superficial analysis of the Kvachkov trial gives grounds for considering this trial to be ordered. At first, the "chekists" were screwed up with the first 2 trials, since the citizens did not support the conclusions of the accusation, then, by order of the Chubovat forces, they, in order to somehow justify themselves, concocted and provoked a new case, classified it so that it would not be considered by a jury, and 3 appointed judges, who were processed and simply told: your salary was raised, and you think about the result of the process. The verdict was agreed in the Armed Forces, undoubtedly, and it will be approved. The only thing is that it can be changed, but not canceled. This is what ethics demands. And the FSB, which covers all these processes, will closely monitor this.
  • Asgard
    Asgard 26 February 2013 12: 02
    +17
    Kvachkov framed ...
    For that we see the degree of degradation of the branches of government .... they are infinitely far from the people ....
    So they become unnecessary in the subsequent society, when Russia rises ...
    People who served in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the FSB, the prosecutor’s office and the court will receive a ban on taking positions in any leadership (anything))
    It will be necessary to identify such and investigate their activities ..... to condemn People under Article 282 .... to import Asians and plant Caucasians in power structures.
    Nationalization of everything - where the owners will not be able to confirm the legality of the funds for the acquisition .... with the voluntary transfer of the people the looted amnesty and% of the amount of property transferred with immunity from prosecution ......
    Whoever tries to hide, the Former GRUs and FSBs should set the task (with the involvement of all intelligence, the Army and the Navy)) to bring the "Russians" and their family members who fled with the stolen funds abroad while completely ignoring the laws of the harboring countries ... (if delivery is impossible, issue ice axes))) ...
    Introduce the death penalty for the distribution of drugs and any kind of "protection" - only for this ...
    For economic crimes, for every 365 rubles stolen - the year of the colony and the obligatory confiscation of property according to the norms of the USSR ....
    The recognition of the illegal coup arranged by EBNatik and the abolition of the Constitution of the Russian Federation .....
    The complete abolition of the legislation of the Russian Federation, the introduction of laws of the USSR including sanitary norms and rules ....

    So as we see Kvachkov and Khabarov We still need ....
    Honest People are always honored .... it is very important that not "dandruff" and shortcomings come to power, but People who did something for the good of the people ...
    1. Yoshkin Kot
      Yoshkin Kot 26 February 2013 12: 24
      -14%
      well, a mustache! A fan of the German pagan pantheon came !!!! right now will begin to build a NEOPAGIC NON-RUSSIAN! apparently destroying all the Orthodox Russian people in the country! from the patriot! apparently only another country
    2. Black
      Black 26 February 2013 12: 34
      +2
      Quote: Asgard
      . it is very important that not "dandruff" and underbites come to power

      Unfortunately, the usual outcome is unlikely, we want the best, but it turns out, as always.
      But I am ready to subscribe to your every word. You are right in everything.

      In general, the situation around Kvachkov and Serdyukov completely disavows the Kremlin.
      It is clear what he is afraid of, what he is doing and what he is striving for.
    3. Ascetic
      Ascetic 26 February 2013 18: 25
      +11
      Quote: Asgard
      So as we see Kvachkov and Khabarov We still need ....
      Honest People are always honored .... it is very important that not "dandruff" and shortcomings come to power, but People who did something for the good of the people ...


      It's just that their time has not yet come .. Critical mass has not accumulated .. Nikolay Berdyaev "The fate of Russia" I recommend to everyone .. read it .. There must be a conscious IDEOLOGY OF THE MAJORITY ... all uprisings AGAINST anything will never have the support of the majority. but FOR (the will of the earth, justice as in 1917) is unable to suppress any power .. Remember? We have nothing to lose except our chains ... now the main majority have something to lose and only a few will go to the barricades ..
      Russian soul wants sacred
      public, God's chosen authority. The nature of the Russian people is recognized as
      ascetic, renouncing earthly affairs and earthly goods.


      The World War sharply raises the question of Russian national identity.
      Russian national thought feels the need and duty to solve the riddle
      Russia, to understand the idea of ​​Russia, to determine its task and place in the world. All
      feel this world day that Russia is facing great world
      tasks. But this deep feeling is accompanied by a consciousness of uncertainty,
      the almost indefiniteness of these tasks.
      From ancient times, there was a hunch that
      Russia is destined for something great that Russia is a special country, not
      similar to no country in the world.
      Russian national thought fed
      a sense of God's chosenness and God-bearing Russia. It comes from an old idea
      Moscow as the Third Rome, through Slavophilism - to Dostoevsky, Vladimir
      Soloviev and to modern non-Slavophiles. To the ideas of this order stuck
      a lot of falsity and lies, but something truly folk, truly
      Russian A person can’t feel something special and great all his life
      calling and keenly aware of it during periods of greatest spiritual recovery,
      if this person is not called to anything significant and is not intended. it
      biologically impossible. This is impossible in the life of a whole nation.


      N. Berdyaev from the collection of articles "The fate of Russia" the beginning of the first part - Psychology of the Russian people
      1. Ascetic
        Ascetic 26 February 2013 18: 39
        +7
        Russian people created
        the most powerful state in the world, the greatest empire.
        From Ivan Kalita
        Russia has consistently and stubbornly assembled and reached stunning dimensions
        the imagination of all the peoples of the world. Forces of the people, about which not without reason
        they think that he is striving for inner spiritual life, surrender to the colossus
        statehood, turning everything into a tool. The interests of creation
        maintaining and protecting a huge state are completely occupied
        exceptional and overwhelming place in Russian history. Almost no more
        forces of the Russian people for a free creative life, all the blood went to
        strengthening and protecting the state. Classes and classes were poorly developed and not
        played the role that played in the history of Western countries. The person was
        crushed by the enormous size of the state, presenting overwhelming
        requirements. The bureaucracy has developed to the size of monstrous. Russian
        statehood occupied the position of guard and defensive. It
        forged in the fight against the Tatar region, in the troubled era, in foreign invasions.
        And she turned into a self-sufficient abstract principle; she lives her
        own law, by its own law, does not want to be a subordinate function
        folk life. This feature of Russian history imposed on Russian life
        seal of joylessness and oppression. Impossible was a free game
        creative powers of man. The power of bureaucracy in Russian life was internal
        the invasion of non-metal. Non-metchina somehow organically entered the Russian
        statehood and owned a feminine and passive Russian element.
        Lands
        the Russian mistook it for her betrothed, she was mistaken in the groom. Great
        victims suffered by the Russian people to create a Russian state, a lot of blood
        shed, but he remained powerless in his vast state.
        Alien
        imperialism in the western and bourgeois sense of the word to the Russian people, but he
        humbly gave his strength to the creation of imperialism, in which his heart does not
        was interested. The secret of Russian history and the Russian soul is hidden here.
        No philosophy of history, Slavophil or Westernist, unraveled
        why the most stateless people created such a huge and
        powerful statehood why the most anarchist people are so
        subjugated by the bureaucracy, why the people free in spirit do not seem to want
        free life? This mystery is associated with a special ratio of feminine and
        courageous beginning in the Russian folk character. Same antinomy
        passes through all Russian being.

        My webpage
  • Odessa
    Odessa 26 February 2013 12: 36
    +9
    The other day it became known that the lawyers of Vladimir Kvachkov are going to appeal the verdict of the Moscow City Court in the Supreme Court of Russia.

    I support. Make every effort and achieve the abolition of the sentence. God forbid, Colonel Kvachkov will be released, because justice must prevail!
  • Kerch
    Kerch 26 February 2013 12: 42
    +2
    "If only if, by the way, in 17 the people came out against the Bolshiviks in 91, everyone didn’t give a damn about communism, which was implanted instead of LOVE FOR THE HOMELAND, adding inappropriate" socialist ".
    Here, under the guise of the end of "councils", Western ideologists dragged another death of the country into the minds of the masses, as, however, 70 years earlier, the same Western ideologists under the guise of "Down with the Monarchy" "Peace" Land to peasants-factories for workers "Dragged the death of the Country for the first time . "

    Exclusively in this part, I agree with you.
    1. Yoshkin Kot
      Yoshkin Kot 26 February 2013 12: 55
      -5
      and everything else is just a consequence of this statement, in expanded form, so to speak, freed from imposed Jewish philosophies in the form of Marxism-socialism-communism, which in itself is only one of the branches of 19th century liberalism
  • Chicot 1
    Chicot 1 26 February 2013 13: 13
    +7
    As I wrote a little earlier in the topics devoted to the case of Colonel Kvachkov and the case of Colonel Khabarov, our judicial system resembles a psychiatric clinic. Not only have the basic rules and legal proceedings been violated (in fact, this is not a novelty or a curiosity!), But with all this, our trembling tops are trying to maintain a good face in a bad game ...
    This looks especially indicative against the background of the Oboronservis case, where Serdyukov's women's council, Serdyukov's relatives and Serdyukov himself (in fact, the protege and protege of the current president) are involved ...

    And a completely rhetorical question for all forum users - If such honored and authoritative people have been "screwed together", then what can a simple and average citizen of Russia hope for, who was suddenly "asked to pass" not for a dog's bolt? .. After all, the presidential phrase "we are not the 37th year"most likely will have absolutely nothing to do with it (with all the consequences that follow from this fact). It is effective only in relation to elected person (also with all that it implies) ...
  • baltika-18
    baltika-18 26 February 2013 13: 18
    +5
    Alexei, thanks for the article. I’m more convinced that you are an honest person, although at first there were doubts.
    1. dmb
      dmb 26 February 2013 16: 17
      +3
      I will subscribe to the assessment, but we still need to be more careful about the topic.
  • holding
    holding 26 February 2013 13: 22
    +3
    Incomprehensible things happen in Russia from time immemorial ..
    These heroes are undeservedly pushed into the background, or even completely planted.
    And all sorts of Biron-Chubais, real ghouls on a horse.
    What about the GRU? My brother urgently served the GRU special forces, 22 OBrSpN ... what he was like as a kid, he remained the same. He told what was going on there. God forbid these guys to be thrown somewhere.
    In the old days, this was not so.
    1. Ruswolf
      Ruswolf 26 February 2013 17: 14
      +3
      holding
      Incomprehensible things happen in Russia from time immemorial ..
      These heroes are undeservedly pushed into the background, or even completely planted.
      And all sorts of Biron-Chubais, real ghouls on a horse.


      Why not understandable?
      We, as always at first - rely on the second
      The first are blasphemed and spread rot in life, and after death they are exalted to the rank of saints,
      The second - praised during life, and after death, interfere with Novoz.
      Balance in nature!
      We love the great martyrs.
      Someone has already said that in Russia, in order to be recognized, one must die.
  • makano
    makano 26 February 2013 13: 41
    +3
    The rally for Kvachkov, Kiselev and Khabarov in Moscow - March 2 at 13.00, Suvorov Square, metro Dostoevskaya.

    http://www.gazeta.ru/social/news/2013/02/26/n_2772209.shtml

    The Sverdlovsk Regional Court sentenced supporters of a 13-year-old convict for attempting an armed rebellion by Vladimir Kvachkov. It is reported by Interfax.

    Leonid Khabarov and Viktor Kralin were sentenced to 4,5 years in a penal colony, and Alexander Ladeishchikov was sentenced to two years in prison.

    They were charged under Art. 1 of the Criminal Code (“Involvement in terrorist activity) and part 205.1 of article 2 of the Criminal Code ("Illicit arms trafficking"). Khabarov was also charged with preparing for armed rebellion and drug trafficking.

    The retired GRU colonel Vladimir Kvachkov was accused of committing crimes under part 1 of article 205.1 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (“Assistance to terrorist activities), part 1 of article 30 and article 279 (“ Attempted armed rebellion ”). Kvachkov’s affair was classified as “secret”. He himself pleaded not guilty of any of the charges against him.

    On February 8, the court sentenced Kvachkov to 13 years in a maximum security prison.
    ____________
    And besides, I believe that the United States should be destroyed.
    1. valokordin
      valokordin 26 February 2013 15: 14
      +2
      Quote: makano

      On February 8, the court sentenced Kvachkov to 13 years in a maximum security prison.
      ____________
      And besides, I believe that the United States should be destroyed.

      For this sentence, Chubais and his American masters must applaud
    2. djon3volta
      djon3volta 26 February 2013 18: 21
      -2
      Quote: makano
      Rally for Kvachkov, Kiselev and Khabarov in Moscow - March 2 at 13.00, Suvorov Square, metro Dostoevskaya

      I wonder how many people will come? At the last rally against Putin, ZERO people came)))
  • Averias
    Averias 26 February 2013 14: 03
    +9
    Yesterday I watched the broadcast of Karaulov. Ndaaa, I tell you friends, however.
    The mother of that girl who shot down people to death and who was given 15 years with a suspended sentence of 15 years!?!?!, Again returned to her duties (read to the feeding trough)!?!?
    A judge whose son (a police accused of murder) was hiding in the country, how he worked as a judge and works!?!?
    The officials of Stavropol simply took and scored a court decision (a land case). There is a court decision, and officials simply did not spit on it and will not execute the court decision. That is, the Court is not a decree for them.
    And we say something else.
  • Kerch
    Kerch 26 February 2013 14: 09
    +4
    "The judge, whose son (a police officer accused of murder) was hiding around the country, how he worked as a judge and still works!?!?
    The officials of Stavropol simply took and scored a court decision (a land case). There is a court decision, and officials simply did not spit on it and will not execute the court decision. That is, the Court is not a decree for them.
    And we say something else. "

    Countless similar examples on a smaller scale. Like a lawyer I say.
    1. Averias
      Averias 26 February 2013 14: 15
      +2
      Here I am about the same. What kind of fight against corruption are we talking about?

      PS I’ll recover - what kind of struggle are we talking about, or rather with whom?
  • Alex45
    Alex45 26 February 2013 14: 16
    +4
    I must say I respect Kvachkov and I do not consider him a traitor, but to speak and write only that he is a hero and a patriot is not right.
    Unfortunately, real traitors were and are among scientists, military, and representatives of special services, distinguished teachers turn out to be pedophiles, and combatants can kill and rob in civilian life. But fortunately such a minimum and discussing everything that happens around Kvachkov should not end only on his heroic past and belong to the special services, but be sure to indicate what the law enforcement and judicial system concluded people custody without any evidence.
    1. Volodin
      26 February 2013 14: 22
      +1
      Alexey, in the article, it seems, this is what the speech is about.
      1. Alex45
        Alex45 26 February 2013 14: 32
        +2
        I agree that this article is about this, but in some comments, the main thing is that he is an officer and an order bearer.
  • Boris55
    Boris55 26 February 2013 14: 21
    0
    Each, to the best of his understanding, works for himself, and to the extent of misunderstanding, for the one who knows and understands more.



    Sverdlovsk Regional Court sentenced in the case of an attempt to prepare an armed rebellion and seizure of power in Yekaterinburg. Two defendants - former military Leonid Khabarov and inventor Viktor Kralin - received four and a half years in a general regime colony, the third - pensioner Alexander Ladeishchikov - two years probation.
  • fedora
    fedora 26 February 2013 16: 20
    +3
    An open and brazen crime was committed against Russia and its best sons, there is no forgiveness of such a power !!!
  • tarks
    tarks 26 February 2013 16: 47
    +4
    and Stalingrad is "impractical", and the Old Man was handed over ....
    vague doubts torment me negative
  • shpuntik
    shpuntik 26 February 2013 17: 19
    +2
    So I did not understand the author. What does it mean: "for all GRU officers to go through the" school of silence "of" Oboronservis "..."? Shut your mouths? The author, in my opinion, leaves the root cause: Kvachkov is not from their family. This is the main reason. Why did the uprising fail? Let's remember: was Kvachkov hiding? No, I didn't hide. He has a bunch of statements across all channels. He either plays the role of Zhirinovsky, to divert disgruntled officers, or ... In general, an incomprehensible story, as with Rokhlin, only Kvachkov is alive, and how he will sit and where - the same question.
    1. Volodin
      26 February 2013 17: 58
      +1
      Yes, you really did not understand the author ...
  • rubber_duck
    rubber_duck 26 February 2013 17: 53
    +3
    Kvachkov was sentenced for one single reason: he always openly said what he thought. He spoke without fearing anyone or being embarrassed. The words honor and honesty, they are from the same root. But woe to that country where an officer, a veteran, an order bearer cannot say what he thinks! It is clear to the fool that he did not plan any coup. Maybe in vain ...

    PS The legend of the Airborne Forces, Colonel Khabarov, was sentenced to four and a half years. Allowed himself to express his opinion openly. There was nothing at all on him but a collection of old cartridges. The public (on TV!) Kadyrov’s demonstration of his collection of military weapons, apparently, cannot serve as incriminating evidence for the chapter Ichkeria Chechen Republic ...
  • Black
    Black 26 February 2013 18: 24
    +1
    Today they gave real terms to Khabarov and his comrades. our amazing media unanimously blundered that their ideological inspirer was a schizophrenic. It is necessary to "omit" the structure of the GRU, maybe this is the main goal?
    PS
    I am glad that in the detachment Serdyukov all were adequate /
  • George
    George 26 February 2013 18: 39
    +4
    Hello all.
    Well, comparing the processes of Kvachkov and Serdyuk one wonders:
    Is it justice or the theater of the absurd? I don’t remember who on the forum said that the entire population of Russia was suspected of attempting a chubik. And there are all reasons for this. Is there anyone who will say a good word in defense of Chubais?
    In general, a perfect attempt looks more like a spectacle. Fluid and amateurish. The levels of execution of the assassination and the level of training and knowledge of Kvachkov as heaven and earth. hi
    Although no, guys, he thought so thoughtfully and strategically: that they would do everything beautifully, they would think for a specialist right away, and so the mugs worked, and you won’t find any ends. wassat
  • deman73
    deman73 26 February 2013 19: 18
    +1
    all this whistle with kvachkovoy just bullshit mare of our power
  • воронов
    воронов 26 February 2013 20: 03
    +1
    Today they condemned Kvachkov and Khabarov, tomorrow they will be judged
  • Drosselmeyer
    Drosselmeyer 26 February 2013 20: 49
    +2
    Soon, once again, Russian officers shut their mouths with another increase in salaries, amid a reduction in the army. Here again, everyone will sit quieter than water - below the grass.
  • NOBODY EXCEPT US
    NOBODY EXCEPT US 26 February 2013 21: 08
    +7
    Still strong is Chubais, he said that Kvachkov will sit and be imprisoned, the real ruler, even Vova can’t do anything with him. How is it that they should be afraid of their army to make it true that two retirees with a crossbow will come to the tankmen in Kovrov and they will immediately lead the tanks on Moskau. As far as I know, the GRU is located directly opposite the Kremlin practically in the Alexander Garden, most likely there is a war for influence on Himself, all the more so since the landing has not been very loyal to the Great and Terrible lately ...
  • stranik72
    stranik72 26 February 2013 21: 31
    +3
    The time will come to Kvachkov a monument will be erected, as one of the "not handed over" the USSR, and Chubais and, As they were and will be in the eyes of most Russian citizens, enemies-occupiers. It just will be so because the truth will triumph anyway ..
  • optimist
    optimist 26 February 2013 21: 50
    +6
    Dear members of the forum, I would like to express my sincere recognition to Kvachkov and those who suffered with him. We are unlikely to ever find out the whole truth about this, but one thing is clear: applying power by this process makes it clear to all potential "Kvachkovs" what will happen to them, if something happens ... Apparently, there are a lot of these "Kvachkovs" in the country lives. It is doubtful that the professional grinder really planned something: he just turned out to be a convenient figure for the "performance". And such performances are becoming more and more. And the current regime can really be overthrown only by two things: either a global drop in oil prices, or "small and victorious" into which we will soon be drawn. Remember the history: after the Russo-Japanese period, tsarism staggered, after the First World War it collapsed. It will be so this time ... Only people are very sorry: there are not many of us Russians left ... And thanks to Kvachkov: he suffered for all of us.
    1. Magadan
      Magadan 27 February 2013 00: 58
      +2
      Quote: optimist
      It is doubtful that the professional grinder really planned something: he just turned out to be a convenient figure for the "performance".

      Here along the way, this is the whole point! You are 100% right.
      And what then did the bureaucrats achieve by trying to intimidate the people ?! Hate them even more!
      If only this hatred did not destroy the whole country, but went exclusively to specific scum
  • Black
    Black 26 February 2013 21: 56
    0
    You somehow - I did not understand the logic ...
    Quote: optimist
    It is doubtful that a professional grinder really planned something: he just turned out to be a convenient figure for a "performance"


    AND,,,
    Quote: optimist
    express sincere recognition to Kvachkov and those who suffered along with him.


    If you think that he did not do anything and did not plan, for which you are sincerely grateful to him? Colonel is not a clown.
    1. optimist
      optimist 26 February 2013 22: 25
      +4
      I do not think so. I just don't believe in the official version. I did, I didn't, but the term was real and rather big. Most likely, it was just agitation, an open expression of one's opinion. The man was not afraid (unlike many compatriots) to openly declare his position. And only an abnormal person could arrange a "trip to the Kremlin" with several "scarecrows".
  • denkastro
    denkastro 26 February 2013 22: 35
    +1
    Here is a training manual on which all independent bloggers, gays and journalists work. If during the discussion you see that someone spits on this training manual .. Our site is no exception!
  • Magadan
    Magadan 27 February 2013 00: 54
    +1
    I got this mess when patriots sit down and pedophiles are released.
    I hate the Russian judiciary! Who do they work for? Obviously not the country. Such decisions are specially issued in order to shake the people into an "orange" riot. And there their masters from the State Department will arrive in time with "humanitarian intervention."
    Shut up our "independent court". We need a king. We need someone who can, by the highest decree, cancel any court decision and jail the judge who made this decision.
    1. Ratibor12
      Ratibor12 27 February 2013 15: 08
      +1
      Quote: Magadan
      I hate the Russian judiciary! Who do they work for? Obviously not the country. Such decisions are specially issued in order to shake the people into an "orange" riot. And there their masters from the State Department will arrive in time with "humanitarian intervention."


      Berezhnoy Sergey Alexandrovich.
      Member of the Union of Writers of Russia. Since November 2009, Berezhnoy S.A. He is the Deputy Chairman of the Arbitration Court of the Belgorod Region. Work experience as a judge for more than 17 years.
      Visited Nagorno-Karabakh, Abkhazia, Chechnya and South Ossetia
      He worked in Syria as a volunteer journalist for the ANNA-news news agency, and was injured near the Sukaina mosque in the city of Daraya, located about 5 km from Damascus.
      Wounded by a sniper gunman in the head and left hand.
  • Ruslan67
    Ruslan67 27 February 2013 03: 29
    +4
    This whole situation reminds me very much of the story of the legendary biathlete A.I. Tikhonov Marasmatic accusations of preparing contract killings in which the victim does not believe request laughing Who is this retired colonel in fact? He hasn’t had any resources or resources for anything, and here is my opinion that someone started a game with the authorities trying to use the retired patriots in this, but either he managed to liquidate it or he didn’t calculate his strength result: several veterans are sitting for idiotic tricks that they would never have allowed themselves in the service. The authorities are leading or are being led like hell knows that At the same time, it’s absolutely unclear to anyone and why this is necessary because the scale is clearly small-town Well, who can clearly explain this without cheers-patriotism and emotions?
  • maximus_1974
    maximus_1974 27 February 2013 09: 06
    +1
    Sorry to Colonel Kvachkov. But! We should not know GRU officers. A Russian officer has the right to his opinion, but does not have the right to be in politics. It is unfortunate that this happened, do not try to judge anyone, neither the state nor Kvachkova, we are unlikely to know the truth.
  • Kolya
    Kolya 27 February 2013 09: 22
    +1
    What kind of politicians are these in Russia? Do they put patriots in prison ??? !!! Who do they serve ???
  • Aivengo
    Aivengo 27 February 2013 09: 29
    +1
    Yoshkin Cat,
    Don't get confused. Traitors in this case are just "our" government, and Kvachkov is a real hero, one of the few who was not afraid to go against these traitors for the sake of the Motherland.
  • Lnosow
    Lnosow 27 February 2013 10: 43
    +1
    Yes, the Russian Themis disappointed. "Beat your own so that others are afraid."