B-1B as the "Trishkin Kaftan" of the American Air Force

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B-1B as the "Trishkin Kaftan" of the American Air Force

What's going on in these United States? The complete impression is that the fuses in the heads are burning in bunches. Throughout the week, everyone was unanimously discussing the news that the Russian Nizhny Novgorod Sokol plant had handed over to the Aerospace Forces a batch of overhauled and modernized MiG-31BMs.

There were quite controversial statements regarding the obsolescence, old age of the interceptor, that there were no targets for it (this was especially funny, because for the MiG-31 everything that flies is food) and so on.



What about at that time?

And the Americans themselves are dragging back from a place called the “Bone Yards” (aka the Davis-Monthan storage base in Tucson, Arizona) B-1B Lancer bombers that were placed there “for long-term storage.”


In general, everyone knows what this term means. And where can the planes go from this “storage”. But under the hot Arizona sun, they stand calmly in the desert on the sand and hardly even rust. The desert is still...

So, the famous American aviation photographer Kayden Smith recently photographed a B-1B bearing the proper name "Rage", serial number 86-0115, flying over Davis-Monthan AFB. Well, to top off this most interesting moment, Smith found out that there, in the “Bone Yards,” today there are only two B-1B aircraft left suitable for operational restoration.



It turns out that despite the fact that the B-1B seems to have been completely and irrevocably written off, not to mention from airfields, but, no, it’s alive, a smoking room, and aircraft sent to the scrapyard, for completely inexplicable reasons, are removed from there and restored to flying condition. condition.

In general, in February 2021, the US Air Force announced the retirement of 17 B-1Bs, leaving 45 aircraft in service. Four of them will be stored in a condition that allows them to return to service if necessary, which, in fact, is what happened.

Of the 13 remaining, four more were distributed to various institutions such as the National Institute of Aeronautical Research (NIAR) for various studies. There are nine left, whose fate is also not entirely clear.

Especially considering that 2036, when the B-1B's service in the US Air Force will end, is still quite a long way off.

What a strong plane it turned out to be! Three years in the boneyards landfill is no joke! And after such a “vacation”, the Lancer flew off as if nothing had happened. This generally says a lot, first of all, that in those years the USA knew how to build “long-lasting” aircraft.


I can’t resist being caustic, but with what pleasure I would look at an attempt to start an F-22 after a couple of years of such “storage”. I think the positive emotions would be off the charts.

In general, the experiment showed that the B-1B can be restored after a landfill. And here it is worth answering the question “Why?”


To begin with, this aircraft was one of four B-1Bs placed in what is known as Type 2000 (recoverable) storage. That is, practically it is a reserve. In fact, the aircraft are even maintained in a manner that makes it easier and faster for them to return to service should the need arise due to any potential future combat losses or accidents.


Type 2000 is head and shoulders above Type 1000 (“undisturbed storage”), which prohibits the removal of any part of the aircraft by separating it. When stored like 1000, aircraft can also be revived, but this will actually take months. Well, the result will not be as combat-ready as a type 2000 aircraft. But the possibility exists.

It is understood that the B-1B "Rage" was pulled out of storage and recovered to replace another aircraft of the same type that crashed at Ellsworth Air Force Base, South Dakota, in January of this year.


The remains of a B-1B after the plane skidded off the runway at Ellsworth, in satellite imagery from January 6, 2024

Here, to be honest, we should remember the article about the decommissioning of the F-22. There, the confrontation between the Air Force, which dreams of getting rid of aircraft junk, both flying and not so flying, and the US Congress, which is responsible for the security of the country as a whole, was described quite normally.

When the hot guys from the Air Force hinted that it would be nice to retire the old B-1, but still the youngest of the 1988 Lancers, the idea was not very well received in Congress. It was in 2021, and as if everything was already clear with the B-2 and B-52, but not with the B-21.

So Congress, on the one hand, authorized the scrapping of 17 aircraft, but in the rank of law it was written that the Air Force is simply obliged to maintain them in combat-ready condition. fleet from 45 B-1B. Just in case.

And doing this is very difficult. The B-1B cannot be said to be a bad plane, just some kind of unlucky one. Also in 2021, the entire fleet of bombers of this type was grounded for four months due to a problem with the high-pressure fuel pump filter housing. To halve the fleet of long-range/strategic bombers for four months is very so-so.

Well, they fight slowly. Not many, out of 100 Lancers produced, 11 crashed in various plane crashes. Well 10%...

By the way, such a replacement is not the first time, if anything. In 2022, another B-1B was completely destroyed by an engine fire at Dyess Air Force Base, Texas. And in order to replace it, the B-1B taken from storage with its own name “Lancelot” was restored in the same way. But the time it took for the Lancelot to enter service took the entire year of 2023, so it actually replaced the lost aircraft only in April 2024.

This is such efficiency.

In general, they say this is normal practice. The same B-52s are shuffled back and forth, choosing for service those that are still flying. Where do you think the B-2019 came from in 52, replacing the bomber that burned down in Guam three years earlier?

From "Bone Yards".


Here you can’t help but think about the real state of the American Air Force, especially in terms of strategic aviation.

But we have to pull. The B-21 will not appear tomorrow, especially in comparable quantities.

Therefore, despite the reduction of the B-1B fleet, they are not letting it go and are doing everything possible to ensure that these aircraft continue to remain in service. This, of course, is commendable, but it would be interesting to know the feelings of pilots who sit at the controls of aircraft that have been sitting at a storage base for several years.


Moreover, the B-1B's mission set has also shifted to long-range strikes. Previously, the aircraft was seen as a means of close air strike support for operations, including counterinsurgency operations during the global the war with terror. Now the emphasis is shifting to a "real" war with long flights (naturally, over the Pacific Ocean). This will look like extremely long sorties that can last almost 40 hours. That is, the B-1B will have to take on the tasks that the Air Force expects to carry out with its new B-21.

But, in fact, the B-1B is very, very suitable for just such a war: speed, range and payload are three important components of success. Plus, no one will discount the possibility of operating hypersonic missiles if they do appear in service with the US Air Force.

But even today, the B-1B's ability to load a large number of stealth cruise missiles and carry them over long distances is already extremely relevant for a potential war in the Pacific against China. And the ability to use long-range anti-ship missiles (LRASM) makes the B-1B a relevant fighter against enemy naval units. And from long distances.


With that in mind, the B-1B fleet, including the Rage, will continue to be put to good use until it eventually faces permanent retirement, which it won't face much of. I repeat, the B-21 armadas are there, in the future, and no one will cancel the Congressional order about 45 bombers.

However, Americans have something to think about: two of the four reserve aircraft have already been restored back to the relatively small fleet.

However, if you dig through the trash, you can get more. “Bone Yards” - there is a lot of things there, for every taste and income.
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  1. +4
    26 July 2024 04: 24
    Thanks Roman, that’s why you can’t destroy decommissioned aircraft, but store it carefully, yes, it’s expensive, but necessary, although of course we have more pressing problems, namely the construction of hangars, not even protected reinforced concrete structures, as in Soviet times, but at least just easily installed, quickly erected, standard options to hide from the enemy the place where the aircraft itself is located and create more comfortable conditions for technical personnel.
    1. +5
      26 July 2024 05: 30
      to hide from the enemy the place where the plane itself is located
      It probably won’t be possible to hide it, but to protect it from drones and fragments, yes
    2. 15+
      26 July 2024 06: 16
      Quote: Codett
      You can’t destroy decommissioned aircraft, but store it carefully, yes, it’s expensive, but it’s necessary
      But Russia doesn’t have the Arizona Desert. The situation there is unique - there is no frost, no rain, air humidity is practically zero, there are no rodents, insects, molds, or any flora or fauna at all that can damage equipment. And in any point in Russia, leave the plane not only in the open air, but even in a hangar made of thin-sheet iron, after a couple of years or five years you can write it off; building a new one from scratch will be cheaper than restoring it to flying condition. And climate-controlled premises will easily eat up the entire videoconferencing budget, and will require more.
      1. +5
        26 July 2024 06: 31
        even in a hangar made of thin-sheet iron, after a couple, the edge - five years can be written off
        With high-quality conservation, nothing will happen to him. I preserved it, took some blocks and sensors into a normal room, and then covered them up. And the high is worth it at least until the second coming
        1. +3
          26 July 2024 07: 40
          I agree with you, I read an article about how in different countries airlines preserve their airliners, and they do nothing, if desired, they even remove the engine and put it away, not just the sensors. Why don't more countries do this? They believe that there won’t be enough pilots and maintenance personnel for decommissioned combat aircraft, they say you can’t put pensioners on the planes of previous generations and the combat value is not high compared to the next generation, so it’s not worth spending money on them, although now I think it’s important to convert them into unmanned ones .
        2. +4
          26 July 2024 10: 47
          Quote: Dutchman Michel
          With high-quality conservation, nothing will happen to him. I preserved it, took some blocks and sensors into a normal room, and then covered them up. And the high is worth it at least until the second coming

          To do this you need to have AB Davis-Monthan.
          In our area, the conditions and regulations are different.
          Most of the aircraft had a fair amount of service life, but during storage they quickly lost not only their combat effectiveness, but also their suitability for flight - units were taken away from “living” aircraft that were handed over for storage with a full set of components, maintenance prescribed by regulations with periodic system checks, engine throttling and overflight there was no one and nothing to carry it out...

          Weather and time took their toll on the planes that vegetated unattended: the scorching sun in summer, rain and snow in winter (the covers were taken away by the economic population first) quickly exhausted their storage life, many components were affected by corrosion, lubrication was not renewed for years, not to mention the fact that most of the vehicles were understaffed (and spare parts for equipment removed from service were written off as scrap metal).
          © Markovsky
          Taking cannibalization, violation of storage conditions and the local population out of brackets, periodic maintenance still remains, right up to the flight.
          1. -3
            26 July 2024 10: 53
            To do this you need to have AB Davis-Monthan
            You can also recommend warm toilets and salaries for privates of $1000 to our army wink. I lubricated it with grease and covered it with a cover, that’s all the preservation was. And after another year I looked to see if everything was okay? And again for a year, another wink
            1. +1
              26 July 2024 11: 18
              Quote: Dutchman Michel
              I lubricated it with grease and covered it with a cover, that’s all the preservation was. And after another year I looked to see if everything was okay? And again for a year, another wink

              And then suddenly there was a hop - and the Operation to restore constitutional order. The Air Force officers are running to the storage areas to retrieve the MiG-27 from storage. And there is rubbish, decay and ruin, up to the partial loss of transparency of the cabin glazing.
              1. -1
                26 July 2024 23: 11
                Quote: Alexey RA
                up to partial loss of transparency of the cabin glazing.

                This happens in AZ too. Well, plexiglass does not withstand ultraviolet radiation, it becomes cloudy, and the sun in AZ is evil. But replacing a light is a small problem compared to all the mechanical, electrical, and hydraulic issues. Rubber, by the way, also loses its elasticity and cracks over time, and nothing can be done, this is a property of the material.
            2. +4
              27 July 2024 06: 22
              Quote: Dutchman Michel
              And after another year I looked to see if everything was okay? And again for a year, another
              Soviet time. Framed division. There are hundreds of pieces of equipment in storage. The cars are, as expected, on trestles, the windows are covered with plywood, the wheels are painted, etc.
              Out of about ten (or even more) Ural-375 cars (the car's mileage ranged from 20 to 50 km), only ONE was able to start (after re-preservation)!!! And not the first time, and not on the first day.
              To the question of the regiment's deputy commander: "What if there is war tomorrow?"
              Answer: “This one, this one and that one will start up, we’ll sit on them and drive away. And here, as soon as the war starts, the warhead will 100% arrive the next day.”
              And you are airplanes, airplanes...
              1. +2
                27 July 2024 06: 26
                We were able to start (after re-opening) only ONE!!! And not the first time, and not on the first day
                So it was preserved that way. Tell me, what can happen to the technology if the metal parts are generously lubricated with lubricant, and the elements sensitive to temperatures and high humidity are put away in the appropriate place?
                1. +1
                  27 July 2024 09: 36
                  Quote: Dutchman Michel
                  Tell me, what could technology be?

                  The main enemy is the so-called. "ensign" (in the bad sense of the word)! laughing Tanks (combat, on the move) withdrawn from the GSVG, several thousand (they said 2200 units, I personally didn’t count) - were dismantled (who needs anything in the household, from watches to headlights), sold off (parts with precious metals, and in general, everything that can be sold), they were destroyed (non-ferrous metal) within a year... After five years they were sold for scrap metal, they were not suitable for more. am
                  And what struck me most, and still raises questions, is why it was necessary to break up the triplexes. They hit all the tanks for some reason...
                  1. 0
                    10 September 2024 07: 59
                    dont worry, dude, the same way u like fckg in the ss, ur tanks also do. its the opinion of the majority, dude, u said it urself, u forgot? it was 5 minutes ago, u dont want to look like a potential enemy by saying this sht, right? now, sck it to deripaska, so the masters will forgive u. and say again that poem with the toilet u recite so nicely. a pioneer tie and ur done, u will be this night's attraction. if u are nice, maybe they will even take u to snagov, to say the poem to romanians too.
        3. +4
          27 July 2024 09: 04
          Quote: Dutchman Michel
          With high-quality conservation, nothing will happen to him. I preserved it, took some blocks and sensors into a normal room, and then covered them up. And the high is worth it at least until the second coming

          Dutchman Michel, and what about the human factor? The main pest of warehouses and gardens - Homo sapiens - is practically not found in the Arizona desert! And we have a whole brood under every bush...
          1. +3
            27 July 2024 10: 23
            The main pest of warehouses and gardens - Homo sapiens - is practically not found in the Arizona desert!
            This is no longer a question of conservation wink
      2. +1
        26 July 2024 10: 30
        Pressurization of a sealed room with 100 nitrogen. For small equipment.
        Supercharged case for large.
        1. +3
          26 July 2024 10: 52
          Quote: garri-lin
          Pressurization of a sealed room with 100 nitrogen. For small equipment.
          Supercharged case for large.

          First, the preparatory procedures.
          External cleaning. Partial dismantling of the board. Cleaning the “internals” and applying a preservative lubricant. Drying and sealing. Closing the glazing.
          And only after that can you put it into storage.
          1. 0
            26 July 2024 14: 53
            Well, yes. And after all gas. Ideally inert. But regular nitrogen will do. And conservation lubricants will degrade more slowly and corrosion will be zero.
      3. -1
        26 July 2024 11: 19
        Probably in the Astrakhan region, or in Kalmykia you can find something, although in winter the frosts are -20, but in the states this is truly a unique place. As for the V-1 accident rate of 10%, this is more than our Tu-22M, as I understand it, we built 500 of them, and the losses were 35, i.e. 7%.
        1. 0
          26 July 2024 14: 41
          In the Astrakhan region in winter it can reach minus 40, plus strong winds and high humidity. and in the summer it’s above plus 40 in the shade (and the nearest shade is in Volgograd), so the conditions are not so great.
      4. 0
        26 July 2024 20: 59
        so it may be worth renting a piece of desert (from those countries where there is a LOT of it)...we still have to solve the issue of protection from sand (and this abrasive can lower the skin to 0..but what about sandstorms in Arizona by the way???) but it is possible a simple hangar or...options are welcome...
    3. +9
      26 July 2024 13: 44
      One author:
      Tu-22M: I haven't said everything yet!
      https://topwar.ru/201379-tu-22m-a-ja-esche-ne-vse-skazal.html
      Yes, perhaps, it is not worth saying goodbye to the Tu-22M. He really hasn't said his last word yet.


      B-1B as the "Trishkin Kaftan" of the American Air Force
      However, if you dig through the trash, you can get more. “Bone Yards” - there is a lot of things there, for every taste and income.


      Bias and technical plagiarism are evident.
      Political officer Roma with his latest nonsense with a complete lack of objective information...
      1. +1
        26 July 2024 15: 50
        The work of AMARG in the bone yard does not cause any complaints: they basically had one accident - the engine fell off on the 727 lol Equipment is properly stored and returned to service. This is not Chebenki...
  2. 0
    26 July 2024 05: 22
    The complete impression is that the fuses in the heads are burning in bunches.

    Let the Amers have a headache about the Lancers. How can one explain the simply treasonous law on arrest for the use of smartphones and other tablets with the Internet in the active army?!
    1. +6
      26 July 2024 06: 12
      When a cat has nothing to do, he licks his own fur. This is about the State Duma. In fact, the ban on smartphones in the army existed before. Was it performed strongly? If I'm not mistaken, there is a ban on the use of such devices and enemy software for officials. And what? Was Dmitry Anatolyevich's iPhone taken away? Or from deputies? Maybe in our country WhatsApp is not used? As if the product of the Meta company is banned in Russia. People just got into the Duma who were not fit to work in it. So they depict the activity. I don’t think anything will change at the front.
      1. +3
        26 July 2024 06: 14
        Quote: Lykases1
        I don’t think anything will change at the front.

        Where the command is at least adequate, it’s not so much, but the trouble is, it’s not like that everywhere in the Northern Military District...
        1. 0
          26 July 2024 06: 22
          Well, maybe so. Although, our valiant Duma has adopted so many laws that no one has heard of, and, accordingly, no one implements, that I don’t think about a negative result.
      2. +5
        26 July 2024 07: 26
        Law to punish any complainers or objectionable people
        1. +5
          26 July 2024 08: 09
          It may very well be so. I don’t support the law, because, as a colleague noted above, there are a lot of idiots. They may follow it too zealously. On the other hand, the army is not a pioneer camp. A soldier must courageously endure the hardships of service. So, like, in the charter? If you want to complain, there is a higher authority, the military prosecutor's office. Another question is what this will lead to. Surely you have served and know how they treat those who complain. And a smartphone is an irreplaceable thing. Those who are wise with experience say - buy a smart phone (without inserting a SIM card), upload detailed maps there, the applications you need (there are both for artillery and snipers. There are a lot of things.), and off you go. But you don’t need to make TikToks about special forces soldiers puffing on a flat road, walking at an average pace (what will happen if they run?), or call your mother from the dugout. Agree, it is not without meaning. We served without telephones. And it seemed like there was a war. Or KTTO. I don't know which way to go. Not like that, of course, but still. And they sat without food, and without water, and in the dirt, and fed lice. And the money was credited mysteriously. It seems like they somehow broke through.
          1. +3
            26 July 2024 10: 33
            Smartphone without SIM card. Do you think that it is more difficult to spot him in the field?
            1. 0
              26 July 2024 11: 01
              Quote: garri-lin
              Smartphone without SIM card. Do you think that it is more difficult to spot him in the field?

              In the "Flight" mode, at least you won't be able to detect it.
              1. 0
                26 July 2024 14: 59
                I didn't think about this mode.
            2. 0
              26 July 2024 11: 36
              Sure. It's one thing when there is radiation - another thing when the device is simply working. It’s probably possible to detect, but it’s unlikely at long distances
              1. 0
                26 July 2024 14: 58
                I personally called the rescue service from a phone without a SIM card. From push-button about 15 years ago. So there is a signal. I don’t know about the smartphone, but I think the same.
                1. 0
                  28 July 2024 13: 59
                  That's right. No SIM card needed. The phone must be registered on the network using IMEI. Place your smartphone without a SIM card next to your computer speakers. Well, or there are Chinese toys - radiation indicators. From time to time you will hear (see) a short exchange session with the nearest cell. And triangulation in the network gives exact coordinates. (well, except for high-rise buildings - there will be small deviations there) This is necessary for the network to transfer your handset from cell to cell when moving.
          2. +2
            26 July 2024 11: 00
            Quote: Lykases1
            Those who are wise with experience say - buy a smart phone (without inserting a SIM card), upload detailed maps there, applications that you need (there are both for artillery and snipers.

            A tablet without internet access is an art pad. The late Murza had a lot to say on this topic.
      3. -2
        26 July 2024 14: 02
        What does the State Duma have to do with this article? Are you fulfilling an order for black PR?
        1. +1
          26 July 2024 14: 47
          Maybe there was a reply to the comment? Who makes our laws? And, specifically to the article, yes, it doesn’t.
        2. +1
          26 July 2024 16: 01
          Yes, they pass laws... There is no need for any black PR with orders.
      4. +1
        26 July 2024 16: 17
        Quote: Lykases1
        In fact, the ban on smartphones in the army existed before. Was it performed strongly?

        Mwa-ha-ha... what can we talk about if those who are supposed to control and suppress, as part of their duties, themselves violate the ban on bringing smartphones even at the “head office”.
        Remember the leaked footage of the shootout near the FSB building, filmed directly from the windows of “Gosuzhas”? wink
    2. +1
      26 July 2024 10: 54
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      How can one explain the simply treasonous law on arrest for the use of smartphones and other tablets with the Internet in the active army?!

      Isn’t it the same people who are now outraged by the ban on smartphones who were previously outraged by the presence of them among military personnel - after flying in according to locations and formations allegedly calculated from the concentration of cellular users? smile
      1. +1
        26 July 2024 10: 58
        Quote: Alexey RA
        And aren’t the same people who are now outraged by the ban on smartphones previously outraged by their presence - after flying in according to locations and formations allegedly calculated from the concentration of cellular users?

        Maybe the same ones, especially those who were NOT indignant at the actual formations within the reach of enemy assets.
      2. +1
        26 July 2024 14: 03
        The same, the same. This is their job.
  3. +4
    26 July 2024 05: 27
    Quote: Roman Skomorokhov
    This generally says a lot, first of all, that in those years in the USA they were able to build “long-lasting” aircraft
    Not only to build, but also to store until better times.
  4. +1
    26 July 2024 06: 06
    If the B-1B is compared, it is not with the MIG-31, but with the TU-160.
    1. -4
      26 July 2024 07: 09
      Already compared https://novayagazeta.ru/articles/2022/01/22/letet-to-mozhno-no-kuda
      Please note the publication date of the article and the last sentence. It is now clear that the author was 100% right.
  5. +6
    26 July 2024 07: 19
    Probably, from this American trash heap you can collect a couple of rubles for our Air Force.
  6. +7
    26 July 2024 07: 23
    About 5 years ago I watched on Discovery about these storage facilities in the desert. There are several of them, they are all huge and there are thousands of planes. Warehouse, museum, cemetery. There are very ancient ones and very new ones. It’s even difficult to realize the full power of the state looking at all this, it’s really very impressive!
  7. +2
    26 July 2024 08: 50
    At least they have a Bone Yard. How many Mig 23, 27 serviceable ones went to waste. Su 17s are now useful. Like the Mig 31 engines will start being produced again. There is no one to produce, we are glad that the factories remain in Russia.
  8. -2
    26 July 2024 08: 59
    Quote: Nagan
    The situation there is unique - there is no frost, no rain, air humidity is practically zero, there are no rodents, insects, molds, or any flora or fauna at all that can damage equipment.


    But there is sand, which, in combination with the breeze, also shortens the shelf life.
    What makes you think that there are no insects and rodents in the desert? They are found there.
    1. +3
      26 July 2024 18: 56
      Quote: Illanatol
      What makes you think that there are no insects and rodents in the desert? They are found there.

      They are not found in that desert. There is nothing to live from. There is no water in any form, and everything is fried with ultraviolet light, so the plants do not grow. And where there are no plants, there is nothing for animals to catch.
      Quote: Illanatol
      there is sand, which in combination with the breeze also reduces

      It seems like the desert there is not sandy, but rocky, and the wind doesn’t hurt the rocks. In general, there are still propeller-driven fighters there from the early 1950s, if not even from the 1940s, and if desired, they can be restored to flight condition.
  9. -4
    26 July 2024 09: 00
    Quote: Vladimir_2U
    How can one explain the simply treasonous law on arrest for the use of smartphones and other tablets with the Internet in the active army?!


    Correct ban. A cell phone is a great way to target a drone or artillery piece.
    1. 0
      26 July 2024 09: 20
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      Here, what kind of fuse can be used to explain the simply treasonous law on arrest for use in the active army? smartphones and other tablets with the Internet?!
      Correct ban. Mobile phone - a great way to aim a drone or artillery at yourself.
    2. +1
      26 July 2024 18: 26
      Correct ban.

      I hope you know the saying about the glass penis?
  10. +4
    26 July 2024 09: 25
    Type 2000 is head and shoulders above Type 1000 (“undisturbed storage”), which prohibits the removal of any part of the aircraft by separating it. When stored like 1000, aircraft can also be revived, but this will actually take months. Well, the result will not be as combat-ready as a type 2000 aircraft. But the possibility exists.

    Not "above", but "below". In original
    Moreover, Rage was just one of four B-1Bs placed into what's known as Type 2000 (reclaimable) storage. Essentially, as we have explained before, this means the aircraft are maintained in a fashion that makes it easier and quicker for them to return to service should the need arise, due to any potential future combat losses or accidents. Type 2000 storage is one step down from Type 1000 “inviolate storage,” which prohibits any part of the aircraft from being removed. Yet even in this type of storage, it can still take months to get aircraft ready to resume their operational duties.
    one step down - one step lower.
    Type 1000 - aircraft are kept in serviceable and complete condition, ready for future use. Dismantling of equipment for use as spare parts is prohibited.
    Type 2000 - aircraft are stored and used as a source of spare parts.
  11. +2
    26 July 2024 09: 28
    Quote: Nagan
    Quote: Codett
    You can’t destroy decommissioned aircraft, but store it carefully, yes, it’s expensive, but it’s necessary
    But Russia doesn’t have the Arizona Desert. The situation there is unique - there is no frost, no rain, air humidity is practically zero, there are no rodents, insects, molds, or any flora or fauna at all that can damage equipment. And in any point in Russia, leave the plane not only in the open air, but even in a hangar made of thin-sheet iron, after a couple of years or five years you can write it off; building a new one from scratch will be cheaper than restoring it to flying condition. And climate-controlled premises will easily eat up the entire videoconferencing budget, and will require more.

    In Russia, leave your equipment unattended in a field... it will be scrapped.
  12. +1
    26 July 2024 09: 30
    Well? Is a smartphone no longer a mobile phone, does it use cellular communications? And any device connected to the Internet can also be detected and used for targeting.
    Have you forgotten how the Ukrainian artillery hit the crowd of our mobilized people who used such devices?
    1. +2
      26 July 2024 10: 46
      Quote: Illanatol
      Have you forgotten how the Ukrainian artillery hit the crowd of our mobilized people who used such devices?
      Then why are there still no special groups that would call shelling on mobile phones in order to reduce the number of shells the enemy has, identify artillery positions for counter-battery combat, or simply shoot out gun barrels, finally. The price in the form of remote activation of a dozen mobile phones is not an issue.
    2. +3
      26 July 2024 11: 02
      Quote: Illanatol
      Have you forgotten how the Ukrainian artillery hit the crowd of our mobilized people who used such devices?

      It’s interesting, if you compare the list of those who were indignant then and now - how many coincidences will there be? wink
    3. +2
      26 July 2024 11: 06
      Quote: Illanatol
      Well? Is a smartphone no longer a mobile phone, does it use cellular communications?

      "Flight" mode, haven't you heard?

      Quote: Illanatol
      Have you forgotten how the Ukrainian artillery hit the crowd of our mobilized people who used such devices?
      Mobile phones are to blame, of course, and not the idiot boss and not the other intelligence signs of drug accumulation.
    4. 0
      26 July 2024 14: 45
      any mobile phone or smartphone is a source of a radio signal at a frequency of 900/1800 (or about )
  13. +7
    26 July 2024 10: 23
    To be honest, after reading the article, I didn’t understand - what is the “burning of the fuses”?
    There are aircraft in storage (judging by the photo, quite a lot). If it is necessary to replace retired ones, they are removed from storage and put into operation. Normal practice, that’s why they were put there.
  14. +3
    26 July 2024 10: 36
    And the Americans themselves are dragging back from a place called the “Bone Yards” (aka the Davis-Monthan storage base in Tucson, Arizona) B-1B Lancer bombers that were placed there “for long-term storage.”
    In general, everyone knows what this term means. And where can the planes go from this “storage”.

    Anywhere. Either to the allies, or for sale, or even to return to service.
    The first to be resurrected was Ghost Rider, who in 2015 returned to service with the 5th Bomber Wing at Minot Air Force Base in North Dakota. Until that time, he was mothballed in the desert for seven years. The second B-52, nicknamed "The Wise Guy," spent 10 years in the Arizona desert before returning to service late last year.
    © "Not sent for parts: The second B-52 bomber returned to US Air Force service from mothballing." IN. 10.01.2021/XNUMX/XNUMX

    “Storage” in quotation marks is, alas, what we have. Suffice it to recall how, over the course of several years, the entire fleet of MiG-27s sent for “storage” was turned into trash.
  15. +7
    26 July 2024 10: 56
    And what did the author want to say?
    From the article we once again learned that the Americans have a well-developed process for storing aircraft in reserve.
    And there are a significant number of bombers in service.
  16. +4
    26 July 2024 10: 58
    Well, they fight slowly. Not many, out of 100 Lancers produced, 11 crashed in various plane crashes. Well 10%...



    Ahahahahahahah....
    Oh, author. Well I can't. Please provide data on the number of sorties and flight hours.
    You know, ours won't be any better. Yes, the Tu-160, for example, has fewer accidents. But he rarely flies like that!
    And your favorite MiG-31, in terms of the number of accidents, will give anyone a light.
    1. 0
      27 July 2024 08: 59
      I would also note here that 10% losses is very decent. The F-16 has about the same number, but is significantly older than the B-1B, single-engine (versus 4 for the Lancer) and constantly fights.
      But the B-1B never really fought (so that the enemy would have developed air defense).
      So 10% loss
      it will be too much!
  17. 0
    26 July 2024 12: 39
    They hardly even rust. The desert is still...

    Probably mostly aluminum alloys, not desert. Eh, Roman?
  18. +1
    26 July 2024 12: 45
    Boneyard is not translated literally, if anything.
    1. -1
      26 July 2024 16: 14
      Quote: Scaffold
      Boneyard is not translated literally, if anything.

      Somewhere in the middle between a cemetery, a landfill and a warehouse. smile
    2. +1
      26 July 2024 17: 06
      Boneyard is not translated literally, if anything
      Burial
  19. +4
    26 July 2024 14: 00
    I don't understand the author's sarcasm. One can envy the Americans that they have such a base and know how to put planes back into service after a long period of storage.
  20. 0
    26 July 2024 14: 09
    Quote: Vladimir_2U
    "Flight" mode, haven't you heard?


    This word “Flight” will not help at all.
    1. 0
      26 July 2024 14: 47
      Why ? The radio part turns off...
  21. 0
    26 July 2024 14: 16
    Quote: Vladimir_2U
    Mobile phones are to blame, of course, and not the idiot boss and not the other intelligence signs of drug accumulation.


    The boss is also to blame. I did not seize the devices from the mobile phones. And a large accumulation of these devices in one place prompted the bitches to strike the building where they were located.
  22. 0
    26 July 2024 14: 57
    This caftan, if not removed before unloading, will easily bury absolutely any air defense system; the only one that has a chance to fight it off on its own is the S-350.
  23. +5
    26 July 2024 15: 22
    The author can't decide. The US Air Force calls the storage place “trash,” but on the contrary it turns out that storing aircraft there is the correct and profitable strategy. Either his B-1 is outdated junk, or it is quite suitable for the tasks for which it was once created :) Either the US Air Force is fools, or not so much. The author hesitates with the party line :) For me, only a complete clinical idiot can call the US military machine "stupid" or "stupid".
  24. +2
    26 July 2024 18: 26
    Now it would be good for us to revive the Tu-16M project with a normal radar, a crew of 2 people, a refueling boom from the Tu-22M3M, D-30 engines from the Tu-154 with a new avionics and it will actually fly well and for 10 thousand km, and this is already a strategic level soldier
  25. +1
    27 July 2024 13: 30
    Here, in Russia, it is possible to keep the aircraft in flying condition after decommissioning. There is only one problem - there is no Master in Russia. Who will be tough on the leadership and who will not look at the interests of the Ministry of Finance, the Central Bank and the oligarchy.
  26. 0
    30 August 2024 14: 17
    Instead of attaching pictures from the Internet, the author would do well to visit this storage base himself. It's a pity, though, that after Covid there are no more excursions there.
    So. If I had visited it personally, the author would have seen the state of the aircraft there, sealed with film on all sides. There are two Zones there - A and B. And only from the second one there is no way back. But even there, unlike the method of "chopping up" planes or blowing them up on the ice on a lake in winter, accepted in the Russian Federation, they very carefully dismantle the planes, register all the parts and then sell them legally for spare parts to users all over the world. And this is done by private civilians, not the Air Force.
    But from Zone A any aircraft can be safely put into operation. By the way, there are brand new Spartan transporters there, which were bought in Italy some time ago, but then they decided not to use them
  27. 0
    30 August 2024 14: 18
    Quote: air wolf
    Now it would be good for us to revive the Tu-16M project with a normal radar, a crew of 2 people, a refueling boom from the Tu-22M3M, D-30 engines from the Tu-154 with a new avionics and it will actually fly well and for 10 thousand km, and this is already a strategic level soldier

    Good idea. But Rostec won't make much money from this.