Hello 80s: rockets are getting out of control

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Hello 80s: rockets are getting out of control


Double Solution #2


Toward the end of the Cold War, two events nearly pitted the United States and the Soviet Union against each other.



The first is placement. missiles medium and shorter range in Europe.

The second is the program of space militarization initiated by the Americans. The Kremlin reasonably believed that the Space Shuttle was needed to dive from orbit and launch nuclear weapons at the USSR. Not a single anti-missile system existing at that time could intercept or even warn in time about such an attack.

Actually, this forced the Soviet Union to create “Buran”, which became the crown of the country’s military-industrial complex and its swan song. The situation with medium- and shorter-range missiles was also not in Moscow’s favor. Based on the geopolitical situation, the Soviet Union could not deploy missiles with a range of 500 to 5 km near Washington. Khrushchev once tried to do something similar in Cuba, but the matter almost descended into an exchange of nuclear strikes.

In the early 70s, the Americans realized the possibility of delivering the first decapitating blow to the military-political leadership of the USSR. To do this, it was simply necessary to put long-range ballistic and cruise missiles on combat duty in Europe.

What was done by November 1985 was that 108 Pershing II launchers (three missile battalions) and 464 BGM-109G cruise missiles appeared in close proximity to the borders of the Soviet Union. The first were located in West Germany, and the second were scattered throughout Europe - in Great Britain, Italy, Germany, Holland and Belgium. A one-time salvo of these products at decision-making centers in the USSR left no chance for anyone.

The missiles' flight time was measured in minutes. According to the Americans, such a decapitating strike was supposed to leave the nuclear shield of the Soviet Union without command, and therefore without retaliatory action.

The decision to transfer intermediate- and shorter-range missiles to Europe was called a “dual solution.” The first point is described above and represented the physical placement of missiles near the borders. The second point was to force the Soviet leadership to limit the number of medium- and short-range missiles.

Again, ground-based missile systems in Europe posed a danger to the capital and the most industrialized part of the Soviet Union. In response, we could only destroy European capitals and NATO infrastructure with similar products. For example, sabers SS-20. This is what the NATO classification called the Pioneer medium-range complexes on a six-axle MAZ chassis. The missiles were placed in Eastern Europe and actually targeted the entire Old World.

At the same time, the USSR could not deliver a symmetrical decapitation strike on America from ground platforms. Only Navy ships and submarines with strategic bombers were available. Only they were under 24/7 NATO control.

In general, the imbalance was obvious, and the Americans took advantage of it. Very successful in this stories Mikhail Gorbachev appeared, agreeing to the total destruction of all medium and small class missiles. This act went down in history as the 1987 Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty.


This is how our “Pioneers” were destroyed

The signing was a clear victory for the United States - Gorbachev sent two and a half times more missiles to scrap than the Americans. Decades of work of scientific teams and factories, as well as billions of rubles, were simply flushed down the drain. Taking advantage of the opportunity to dictate terms to Gorbachev, the Americans demanded that the USSR also destroy the Oka missiles. These operational-tactical complexes did not fall under the requirements of the agreement, since they only traveled 300–500 km, depending on the modification.

The success of the Americans 37 years ago seems to inspire Washington today. Since 2019, NATO has been openly developing land-based missiles with a range of 500 to 5 kilometers. Hiding behind a far-fetched pretext, the enemy unilaterally withdrew from the treaty.

As a result, in a couple of years (or even earlier) Germany will have strike weapons capable of reaching the industrial centers of the Urals.

Exchange blows


Europe is once again being exposed to Russian missiles. From 2026, American missiles will arrive in Germany. German Defense Minister Pistorius stated:

“What the United States will do in Germany from 2026 is nothing more than a response to the threat of the Russian Federation in the form of the deployment of Iskander missiles in Kaliningrad.”

A completely inadequate answer, it should be noted. “Iskander-M” is the successor of the same “Oka” and is not capable of hitting further than 500 km. That is, a rocket from the Kaliningrad region is unlikely to reach Berlin. Even the region's neighbor Poland is not completely under fire, not to mention the rest of Europe. The deployment of Iskander missiles in Belarus also does not fundamentally change the essence of the matter - for this you just need to look at the map.

Therefore, Pistorius’s attempts are unconvincing and speak only of one thing - America intends to shift the balance of power in Europe and derail all agreements. Washington and Berlin are freeing Russia's hands. Since there are no obligations, you can place your missiles anywhere. And not just install, but also develop new products. The same ones that can fly 500 km or more from the ground.

In the current arms race, this is one of the most budget-friendly solutions. Adapting sea-based Calibers, as well as X-series products from VKS, is relatively inexpensive, but the effect can be amazing. For example, Zelensky should persuade Pistorius to take back his words.

As soon as medium- and shorter-range missiles on a wheeled chassis appear in Russia, the effectiveness of their work against Ukrainian targets will increase manifold. Now we have to strike from air and sea carriers, which is expensive and very noticeable. Bandera’s men, like cockroaches, manage to run away every time Russian strategic missile carriers take off.

It is not possible to escape from the Iskander, but it only has a range of 500 km, which is not enough. The abolition of all rules in the new Cold War by America will allow Russia to no longer stand on ceremony in Ukraine.

Let us repeat, the first ground-based missiles with a range of 500–5 km may appear in the Russian Army during the current year. First of all, the Caliber cruise missiles adapted for ground carriers, and a little later the long-range Iskanders.

Why wait until 2026 until Germany arms the enemy and gains an advantage?


Americans have several vulnerabilities.

One of them is the presence of “partners” near Russia and a large number of military bases around the world. We have something to answer the enemy with. In addition to the obvious increase in missile potential in Kaliningrad and Belarus, it is worth turning our attention to the East.

To the largest aircraft carrier in the United States - Japan. From Primorsky Krai to Tokyo it is only about 1 km. In the same cohort is South Korea - from Nakhodka to Seoul about 000 km.

The Kremlin should respond asymmetrically. If missiles cannot be placed at the gates of Washington, then all US allies must be aware of their vulnerability. Coupled with the high population density of such regions, the consequences can be very dire.
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  1. +9
    23 July 2024 04: 04
    Missiles should be installed in Cuba and Venezuela. And hammer away at American bases in the Middle East with proxy forces.
    1. +54
      23 July 2024 04: 27
      But there are no people in the world who want to take part in the rocket adventure. Neither in Cuba nor in Venezuela.
      1. +16
        23 July 2024 05: 46
        Indeed, there is no point of interest for Cuba and other Latin countries in deploying missiles.
        And we have nothing to interest them with.
        The relationship was abandoned during a difficult period for Cuba. I didn’t even buy their sugar. Now there has been a diplomatic thaw, but nothing more.
        But the Chinese have settled very well in Cuba (and they do well everywhere in the world), providing significant economic support.
        1. +38
          23 July 2024 07: 14
          Missiles should be installed in Cuba and Venezuela. And hammer away at American bases in the Middle East with proxy forces.

          Forget about Cuba, at least while our guarantor is in power. In Cuba they remember well how Putin closed our bases in Cuba on orders from Washington and abandoned the Cubans.
          1. -18
            23 July 2024 07: 24
            Pure stupidity!
            1. +6
              23 July 2024 07: 52
              Pure stupidity!

              Are you calling Putin a Ukrainian? Are you insulting the Supreme One?
          2. LMN
            -3
            25 July 2024 04: 49
            In Cuba they remember well how Putin closed our bases in Cuba on orders from Washington


            Can you send me the order number? Balabol..
            1. -1
              28 July 2024 23: 09
              He is not a chatterbox, he is a traitor, to put it simply.
          3. +1
            25 August 2024 18: 15
            Putin closed our bases in Cuba

            At the beginning of July 1993, the last units of the Russian Armed Forces left Cuba.
            Putin signed an order to close the radio-electronic and radio-technical intelligence center in Lourdes in 2002.
            Since 2014, negotiations have been ongoing with Cuba on the resumption of military cooperation
            Based on materials from news sites
        2. +21
          23 July 2024 07: 50
          Gorbachev is a traitor and all he did was sabotage and betrayal. This scum concluded the INF Treaty by destroying the most advanced ground-based medium-range missiles in the world, while having no analogues to their naval carriers of cruise missiles. Tomahawk agreed that such missiles are not subject to this treaty.
          And there was no real threat from NATO to the USSR. What the hell kind of decapitating strike on the largest country in the world with the largest submarine fleet in the world with 30 thousand nuclear warheads and their delivery vehicles? If such a strike were attempted, 10 thousand warheads would have been fired at the US from various carriers, including from sea ones (let me remind you that we were the world leader in the number of nuclear submarines)! Thousands of warheads would have been fired at Europe from different places, four tank armies could have reached NATO headquarters in Brussels on one refueling to finish off the survivors of the nuclear strikes. NATO had absolutely no chance of surviving in such a war and they understood it very well.

          Now, after numerous reductions in the number of nuclear warheads (and under Putin they were reduced from 10 thousand to about 3 thousand), the sale of weapons-grade plutonium to the Americans (again under Putin), with the expansion of NATO to our borders (again under Putin) and under the oligarchic system in which most of the enterprises in Russia belong to traitors and creatures and the country’s leadership protects and protects them and, in addition, it itself sabotages the development of the country. We are still saved by the remains of the nuclear-missile shield built in the USSR, which is hated by our leaders. But we can no longer guarantee the destruction of all NATO countries, and with this system and with this leader, we will not be able to quickly increase the number of nuclear warheads and build means of their delivery.
          Fairy tales about the fact that we can quickly cook something up are just fairy tales. Even if you manage to quickly modernize the Iskander, Caliber and X-102, why are you going to launch them? The same MZKT will not build them quickly, and what will happen if Lukashenko is lured away and he stops making chassis for us? Our geostratekh could not even force Lukashenko, who had been driven into a corner, to annex Belarus to Russia, and such chances may no longer exist.
          1. -9
            23 July 2024 07: 55
            You're exaggerating things a bit.
            We sold not plutonium, but uranium, of which there is overproduction in the world (fact);
            Defense-industrial complex enterprises are under reliable state control and work “to the fullest extent possible.”
            It is not for nothing that the “Russian threat” is taken quite seriously by the West.
            1. +8
              23 July 2024 08: 13
              It’s you who live in rose-colored glasses and it looks like they are firmly attached to the bridge of your nose. In order not to speculate too much, look at the statistics on the Navy - how many nuclear submarines have been withdrawn from service over the past 30 years? How many have been built? Things are no better with the ground army.
            2. +14
              23 July 2024 08: 36
              We sold not plutonium, but uranium, of which there is overproduction in the world (fact);

              According to the HEU-LEU Treaty, by 2013 the Russian Federation had processed 500 tons of weapons-grade plutonium, which is equivalent to 20 thousand nuclear warheads and removed the threat of destruction of NATO. Can you imagine how much money it costs and how long it will take to again produce weapons-grade plutonium for 20 thousand warheads? At today's prices, that's about $8 trillion! Will the oligarchic Russian Federation be willing to restore this?
              And the reactors that produced plutonium have long been stopped!
              It is not for nothing that the “Russian threat” is taken quite seriously by the West.

              Remnants of nuclear warheads are taken seriously, but 3 thousand is not 30 thousand. And everything else has not scared anyone for a long time, especially after the results of 2 and a half years of SVO.
              1. +7
                23 July 2024 09: 45
                Are you serious about 20000 warheads?
                Well, let's say we made them.
                And why, I’m embarrassed to ask, will you screw them on???
                Will we make 2000 [conditional] Sarmatians?
                And where will you find so much production capacity, metals, radio-electronic components and, most importantly, industrial personnel? Miners, steelworkers, transporters, machine tool builders, chemists, rocket industry workers.... Military rocket scientists, again.
                Guns instead of butter?
                Sorry, but your model won’t even allow you to strain yourself, since it is in principle unfeasible.
                And it’s not necessary.
                1. +5
                  23 July 2024 13: 24
                  Quote: U-58
                  And why, I’m embarrassed to ask, will you screw them on???
                  Will we make 2000 [conditional] Sarmatians?
                  No. To new Pioneers, old Iskanders, etc. We have a ton of targets in Europe, each requiring 2 warheads from different carriers. And all strategic missiles should be reoriented entirely towards the United States.
              2. +8
                23 July 2024 10: 53
                Quote: ramzay21
                According to the HEU-LEU Treaty, the Russian Federation processed 2013 tons of weapons-grade plutonium by 500

                Do you know the definition of HEU and LEU? Highly enriched and low enriched Uranium. The letter U is for Uranium, not plutonium.
                And yes, these 500 tons of HEU caused critical damage to the US nuclear industry, burying plans to modernize the enrichment part of the nuclear industry chain. Market decided © - why spend money on your own production if you can buy a ready-made one cheaply. Effective managers are like that all over the world.
              3. +4
                23 July 2024 11: 34
                who will service all these tens of thousands of heads? who will pay for this? There aren’t enough people for anything anyway, and there’s still a bunch of heads to service. 3 thousand amers are enough to burn in atomic ash before their eyes
              4. -1
                23 July 2024 12: 43
                What kind of nonsense and fantasies are there about 30 thousand? you don’t need that much 3000 and that’s just for your eyes to destroy the enemy
                1. 0
                  25 August 2024 18: 27
                  A lot of missiles and warheads will be shot down, only a small part will work normally, so it’s a lot to ensure a guaranteed strike. It was in Hiroshima that there were catastrophic consequences due to the peculiarities of the architecture; in Nagasaki, with comparable charge powers, the defeat was not so great. I read a review about the bombing a long time ago.
              5. -4
                23 July 2024 15: 05
                And again Ramsay - everything was gone. Why do we need 20 thousand warheads??? The Americans write that 6 Sarmatians are enough to destroy the eastern coast of America. That is, 20 Sarmatians are guaranteed to destroy America. In 2022, 46 Sarmatians were promised. I couldn’t find how many there are today. Apparently the information is classified. But again I ask a question. Why the hell are there 20000 warheads?
                1. +7
                  23 July 2024 18: 44
                  Why the hell are there 20000 warheads?

                  Why the hell did the USSR make 30000 T-72s? Until the age of 22, people often liked to ask the same question. Now they don't ask the truth anymore
                  1. -1
                    12 October 2024 12: 29
                    Quote: 1z1
                    Why the hell are there 20000 warheads?

                    Why the hell did the USSR make 30000 T-72s? Until the age of 22, people often liked to ask the same question. Now they don't ask the truth anymore

                    So, according to your logic, everything should be done in reserve and stored in warehouses. And have you tried living peacefully?
                    1. 0
                      12 October 2024 18: 38
                      Have you tried living peacefully?

                      I would be all for it. Well, they will fleece you, clean you up and even leave you guilty. Goodness should come with fists. That's how the world and humanity are arranged.
                2. +8
                  23 July 2024 20: 36
                  The Americans write that 6 Sarmatians are enough to destroy the east coast of America

                  What if they lie to you? I'm asking for a laugh so clean lol
                  Don't be offended, but I can't talk seriously to a man who is going to destroy all of America with 20 Sarmatians. I can only laugh. lol
                  1. -3
                    24 July 2024 07: 29
                    Well, there are those who think that everything needs to go to one place and there will be no USA. All theories. How much to launch and where. It is possible and simpler - lock everyone on the mainland and that's it. A piece of large iron is sunk one by one in different parts of the world without any planes and missiles. And having sunk, they will spend another six months or a year looking for the reasons and who is to blame. And removing several people is not such a problem.
            3. 0
              23 July 2024 17: 34
              Quote: U-58
              of which there is overproduction in the world (fact);

              So let the extra one lie in the ground, and the descendants will get it.
              So this is a limited resource, a fact.
              1. 0
                23 July 2024 17: 35
                But with this everything is completely fine. There is a lot lying in the ground. The descendants will be happy.
          2. -4
            23 July 2024 09: 01
            This Ramsay 21, a rare mess in his head, has collected a bunch of fresh facts of Soviet and Russian history, without bothering to build a logical chain, apparently TsIPSOshnik
          3. -1
            23 July 2024 10: 48
            Quote: ramzay21
            This scum concluded the INF Treaty by destroying the most advanced ground-based medium-range missiles in the world, while having no analogues to their naval carriers of cruise missiles. Tomahawk agreed that such missiles are not subject to this treaty.

            There were analogues, at least among submariners - converted 667AT. But with the rest, the USSR simply did not have time.
            Quote: ramzay21
            If such a strike were attempted, 10 thousand warheads would fly towards the United States from various carriers, including naval ones (let me remind you that we were the world leader in the number of nuclear submarines)!

            Yeah... a leader - at the cost of maintaining museum exhibits. Or did someone think that in a combat situation the same “Azukhas” had a chance to reach the launch area and carry out the launch?
            Quote: ramzay21
            Even if you manage to quickly modernize the Iskander, Caliber and X-102, why are you going to launch them?

            From the same place they are launched from now. Or has someone forgotten how the US withdrawal from the INF Treaty began? I'll give you a hint - 9M729.
            1. -2
              25 July 2024 07: 14
              There were analogues, at least among submariners - converted 667AT. But with the rest, the USSR simply did not have time.

              And what was the analogue of the 667AT from the 60s, capable of launching Granat missiles from 8 TA?
              The Americans already had Teconderogas in service, which were built 2-3 times a year and were built by Arlie Burkey. What analogues did we have to the Teconderogas and Arlie Berks?
              Yeah... a leader - at the cost of maintaining museum exhibits. Or did someone think that in a combat situation the same “Azukhas” had a chance to reach the launch area and carry out the launch?

              We had modern 6 Sharks/Typhoons in service and they continued to be built, and 7 Dolphins and they also continued to be built, the newest Borey with Bark was being prepared for laying.
              There were also second-generation SSBNs 14 Kalmars and 22 Morays, and given that they carried BS in well-protected so-called bastions, the strategic nuclear forces could carry out their tasks.
              As for Azukh, their initial targets could be taken over by more modern SSBNs, and they remained Japan and South Korea from the Sea of ​​Okhotsk and Europe from the Barents Sea and the Mediterranean Sea under the cover of our KUGs there.
              From the same place they are launched from now. Or has someone forgotten how the US withdrawal from the INF Treaty began? I'll give you a hint - 9M729

              And how many are there in stock?
          4. +2
            23 July 2024 13: 32
            Even if you manage to quickly modernize the Iskander, Caliber and X-102, why are you going to launch them?
            Well, they made a container launcher for the caliber; it can be loaded onto a truck or a railway platform. There would be a desire
            what will happen if Lukashenko is lured away and he stops making chassis for us?
            the West practically wrote him off in 2020, I don’t think that the father will think of starting to flirt with the West again
            1. 0
              24 July 2024 07: 56
              Well, they made a container launcher for the caliber; it can be loaded onto a truck or a railway platform. There would be a desire

              And what did they do? Can you tell me why these containers are not on the Black Sea Fleet patrols?
              the West practically wrote him off in 2020, I don’t think that the father will think of starting to flirt with the West again

              We have already heard this tale, only about Ukraine. And people, including dad, are mortal, so what will happen?
              The only solution to the potential problem with Belarus is to join Russia. Everything else is a circus with horses.
              1. 0
                24 July 2024 11: 59
                And what did they do? Can you tell me why these containers are not on the Black Sea Fleet patrols?
                They made a bunch of different launchers for calibers. Why this was not purchased by the troops - you can ask the former Minister of Defense at a meeting, I think there will be an impressive list of what was not found in the end
                The only solution to the potential problem with Belarus is to join Russia.
                at the moment she is practically in the lineup. And Belarusians are not Ukrainians, the difference is colossal
                1. 0
                  25 July 2024 12: 36
                  They made a bunch of different launchers for calibers. Why this was not purchased by the troops - you can ask the former Minister of Defense at a meeting, I think there will be an impressive list of what was not found in the end

                  Show me the working container launchers that you are planning to install on trailers lol
                  And you don’t need to move the arrows to a character with whom you yourself are not able to talk lol
                  We simply don’t have any working launchers from the container. In fact, no. So the question is the same. Why are you planning to launch rockets?
                  at the moment she is practically in the lineup. And Belarusians are not Ukrainians, the difference is colossal

                  Which document says that Belarus is part of the Russian Federation? lol According to what document is the Old Man subordinate to the President of the Russian Federation? And what will happen to dad if he sends our President? Answer these simple questions for yourself, maybe then you won’t write nonsense.
                  And there is no need to tell fairy tales about the big difference between Ukrainians and Belarusians! The only difference is that some have a dad and others supposedly have democracy and elections. And so both of them live at our expense.
          5. +2
            23 July 2024 15: 44
            There is no need to be so pretentious about the world’s largest submarine fleet, there were relatively few submarines pr.877, and among the nuclear submarines most of them were frankly “dinosaurs” of the 1st and 2nd generations, which were very noisy, and the 1st generation still not reliable.
          6. +3
            23 July 2024 17: 55
            You write like this... They need to finish them off, 4 tank armies, it feels like the attack will be one-sided... There will be no winners, the first wind will blow, the first rain will fall and the remaining parts of the army will immediately fall ill... Only bunker rats will survive (leadership)
            1. +2
              24 July 2024 08: 02
              You write like this... You need to finish off, 4 tank armies, it feels like the blow will be one-sided... There will be no winners, the first wind will blow, the first rain will fall and the remaining parts of the army will immediately die... Only bunker rats will survive (guidance)

              I write this way because everyone understood this perspective at that time and therefore no one made any sudden movements. Nobody wanted to play with a country that has 30 thousand warheads and their delivery vehicles, simply because out of 30 thousand at least 10 thousand will reach their targets.
              And yes, 4 tank armies capable of reaching their headquarters even in the event of a nuclear war were an additional argument not to make sudden movements.
          7. 0
            12 October 2024 12: 25
            Quote: ramzay21
            This scum concluded the INF Treaty by destroying our most advanced ground-based medium-range missiles in the world,

            You only want to fill the whole country with missiles. At that time, the USSR was experiencing huge problems in the economy and military spending directly affected this. So Gorbachev did everything right. In the years since the collapse of the USSR, NATO has not bombed us somehow. And we lived normally with the West. The aggravation began when Ukraine gathered in the EU. Which our leadership really did not like. If you do not want to live peacefully, you will support a 3 million army and sit under sanctions. And Western countries will support 50-100 thousand. And no CSTO members will help us.
        3. +3
          23 July 2024 13: 43
          Quote: U-58
          But the Chinese have settled very well in Cuba (and they do well everywhere in the world), providing significant economic support.

          This is quite logical, because they use a magical remedy for corruption - execution.
      2. +1
        23 July 2024 07: 00
        It is quite possible to come to an agreement with Venezuela, and for them this is an additional guarantee of security from the United States! Nicaragua again! You can too, if you want!
        1. +5
          23 July 2024 16: 43
          Venezuela is interested in normalizing relations with the United States - this is its main trading partner. Not a single country in South America will accept Russian nuclear weapons - this will make them not just an enemy of the United States, but outcasts on the continent and in the world. The world (GY) treats nuclear weapons very poorly.
        2. 0
          24 July 2024 08: 05
          It is quite possible to come to an agreement with Venezuela, and for them this is an additional guarantee of security from the United States! Nicaragua again! You can too, if you want!

          Would you be happy if, for example, the DPRK placed a rocket launcher near your city and fired from it if the Americans attacked the DPRK? People in Venezuela and Nicaragua think the same.
          1. 0
            14 November 2024 16: 19
            Why don't they think so in Europe??? )))
      3. 0
        23 July 2024 07: 38
        There is one in Germany and in Turkey. Yes, all of Europe is willing!
      4. 0
        25 July 2024 09: 13
        Missiles should be installed in Cuba and Venezuela.

        Rockets must be placed in space, and not wait until the pendos do it first.
        On this planet, only those who are stronger are respected, and not those who comply with international law.
      5. 0
        14 November 2024 16: 07
        Hato Europe is not afraid to take part in this adventure.
    2. +15
      23 July 2024 06: 00
      Quote: zontov79
      Missiles should be installed in Cuba and Venezuela.

      The chess player closed the military base in Cuba back in the 2000s. And there was none in Venezuela. In this multi-move game, the Zaluzhniki seem to have outdone the geopolitical grandmaster.
      1. +4
        23 July 2024 11: 53
        ..only everyone played cards, and he played chess.. fool
      2. D16
        0
        23 July 2024 21: 37
        The hostages seem to have beaten the geopolitical grandmaster.

        The Strategic Missile Forces have been modernized in Russia. There is no need to expose the population of Cuba and Venezuela to distribution in the event of a mix-up, and the prisoners decided to enter the same water twice after 40 years. lol
        1. 0
          14 November 2024 16: 21
          D16, what kind of modernization of the strategic missile forces has been carried out that there is no need to install missiles on the cube? Teleportation of warheads?

          What nonsense are you talking about?
          1. D16
            0
            14 November 2024 23: 12
            Modernization increases the reliability of delivery vehicles. Warheads are guaranteed to reach the opponent, causing unacceptable damage. And it does not matter whether it happens in 10 or 25 minutes. Medium-range missiles are easier to intercept with missile defense systems.
            1. 0
              15 November 2024 21: 24
              D16, does it matter? Flight time is 5 minutes. No one will have time to fart, understand.

              Are they easier to intercept? Our systems are not able to intercept even the wretched atacms. What interception are you talking about?

              You are a pure armchair analyst, like those who proved that the S-400 shoots down everything it sees in 98% of cases. And everyone should gasp and groan.

              And here... excuse me... alas...
              1. D16
                0
                16 November 2024 08: 12
                Nobody will even have time to fart, understand.

                A couple of destroyers with missile defense missiles near the coast of Cuba during the threatening period will reduce to zero any possibility of a surprise attack. As a non-couch analyst, you should understand that it is easiest to intercept missiles on the OUT.
                Our systems are not able to intercept even the wretched atacms reliably.

                When was the last time you heard about using atacms? I did in the summer. We tried it, found it was ineffective, and stopped supplying it. lol
                1. 0
                  17 November 2024 01: 23
                  D16

                  For every destroyer there is a bastion or an Iskander. Do you think it's that simple? And f... they will intercept modern medium-range missiles. Submarines have not been cancelled either.

                  I don't follow the usage. In the summer, they covered the S-400 with fireworks. Not the first, and not even the second.

                  Why isn't it used now? I don't know. Maybe they don't supply it yet.
                  1. D16
                    0
                    17 November 2024 11: 29
                    What an optimist you are. The destruction of the destroyer during the period of threat will be a signal for the demolition of the base in Cuba and the long-range use of intercontinental strategic nuclear weapons. The only question is, why make a charred ruin out of Cuba?
                    Intercepting missiles in the active part of their trajectory is the most godly thing to do. Any anti-aircraft gunner will confirm this. So don't get your hopes up.
    3. +9
      23 July 2024 06: 42
      Missiles should be installed in Cuba
      They could not have been installed in the 60s, when the USSR was at the very zenith of its glory wink
      1. 0
        23 July 2024 16: 51
        The Cuban party in the 60s was still fought around American missiles in Turkey, and from this point of view the USSR succeeded. Gaining a foothold in Cuba was not an end in itself.
    4. -1
      23 July 2024 08: 13
      Missiles should be installed in Cuba and Venezuela. And hammer away at American bases in the Middle East with proxy forces.

      Ladies and gentlemen!
      Judging by your comments, our military and the commander in chief don’t understand anything and they have only one obsession: to sell us all to the bourgeoisie for cookies, jam and soda with syrup.
      Why put missiles in Cuba and/or Venezuela? In Kamchatka there is an abandoned missile base carved into the rocks, this is the first thing.
      Secondly, we have the “Perimeter” (dead hand) system. Therefore, if we die in 5 minutes, they will die in 30. The time difference, you see, is small.
      And finally, thirdly, the most important thing. We will all die anyway, some from old age and illness, some from an overdose, etc. Therefore, we need to prepare ourselves for another - eternal life, which is given by God only through the Orthodox faith. To do this, we need to correct ourselves and not forget our Orthodox Church. Amen.
      1. +8
        23 July 2024 08: 51
        Judging by your comment, it is better for you not to comment on anything! Including other people's comments!
        1. +1
          23 July 2024 16: 09
          zontov79, at least I’m not suggesting from Venezuela and Cuba
          hammer away at American bases in the Middle East with proxy forces.
          So, transfer the missiles to these third forces? Dear zontov79, it is really hard to comment on you, you can go crazy.
        2. +2
          23 July 2024 22: 05
          Mikhalych just hasn’t settled down yet laughing laughing
      2. +2
        23 July 2024 11: 37
        I support you and suggest you pray for world peace. God will not abandon us.
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    5. +4
      23 July 2024 10: 17
      Please tell me what is the distance from Venezuela to Washington? If you are too lazy to look at the distance, I’ll tell you more than 5 thousand km, not 500, not 1000 km, but more than 5 thousand; from Kamchatka the flight time to the USA will probably be shorter than from Venezuela.
      1. +1
        23 July 2024 18: 05
        Are there any other cities in the USA besides Washington?? Yes, I'm too lazy to read bad comments.
    6. 0
      24 July 2024 07: 18
      The bulk of the US population lives along the coasts of the Atlantic and Pacific oceans. If the task is to put a nuclear pistol to the heads of the Americans, then you need to think about the mass construction of multi-purpose nuclear submarines 886M "Yasen" with "Zircons" and "Calibers" on board.
  2. +8
    23 July 2024 04: 10
    Think what you want, but I believe that it is under President Trump that NATO will go to war with Russia.
    According to information from our agents in Europe, NATO’s preparations for war are in full swing.
    So let’s also remember with a kind word “good old grandfather Joe “Self-propelled” Biden.”
    1. +1
      23 July 2024 05: 33
      Under President Trump, NATO will go to war with Russia.

      Doesn't Trump want to make Europe pay? He even seemed to say that he would leave NATO if they didn’t pay. And as vice president, he chose a person who is categorically against helping anyone (Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan, etc.)
      1. +14
        23 July 2024 06: 15
        My mother always told me, son, don’t judge people by their words, judge by their deeds. The easiest way to say.... Let's wait for Trump's victory and the appointment of a vice president and you will see for yourself how things will diverge from words by 180 °
        1. +1
          23 July 2024 11: 47
          My mom always told me, son, don't judge people by their words.

          Yes, but only some of the people from Trump’s entourage not only said but also did
        2. 0
          12 October 2024 16: 32
          Quote from: FoBoss_VM
          Let's wait for Trump to win and for the vice president to be appointed

          The problem is that he won't win.
      2. +7
        23 July 2024 07: 35
        Oh my God! In the US, presidents appointed by the ruling clans work on the payroll of their masters and are signatories to documents prepared for them. The idea of ​​their influence is being forced upon us too much. The same can be said about the puppet governments of the EU countries.
        1. +4
          23 July 2024 08: 57
          Quote: heir
          The same can be said about the puppet governments of the EU countries.

          So we shouldn’t forget about capitalist Russia then. Under Yeltsin, after the pro-Western anti-constitutional coup in Moscow (1991), there was such a “family”, the current oligarchs, essentially the new masters of Russia. Where and who is the “wedding general” now, whose interests predominate in our country? A show of butting heads with the West, where the main enemy is the residual Soviet potential, in particular nuclear missiles. No matter how much industry, science, education and health care have been destroyed, Russia is still the only country in the world that can completely destroy the United States. This is what the West is fighting against; the Russian oligarchs are not their enemies. It seems that the purpose of the North Military District was to completely and completely bleed Russia dry, to waste and empty its arsenals, and then, having brought matters to a head, to make peace on the West’s terms, handing over nuclear weapons to external control.
          1. +1
            24 July 2024 00: 19
            Quote: Per se.
            So we shouldn’t forget about capitalist Russia then. Under Yeltsin, after the pro-Western anti-constitutional coup in Moscow (1991), there was such a “family”, the current oligarchs, essentially the new masters of Russia. Where and who is the “wedding general” now, whose interests predominate in our country? A show of butting heads with the West, where the main enemy is the residual Soviet potential, in particular nuclear missiles. No matter how much industry, science, education and health care have been destroyed, Russia is still the only country in the world that can completely destroy the United States. This is what the West is fighting against; the Russian oligarchs are not their enemies. It seems that the purpose of the North Military District was to completely and completely bleed Russia dry, to waste and empty its arsenals, and then, having brought matters to a head, to make peace on the West’s terms, handing over nuclear weapons to external control.


            It's interesting how you do it: there are oligarchs - "new masters of Russia" who want to hand it over to the West, complete with nuclear weapons. It would seem, what's stopping you? Cut up the missiles, sign any losing agreements with the West behind the people's backs, no one will utter a word, sabotage everything and everyone, like Gorbaty. The idiot box and the repressive apparatus that liberals often talk about are there to help. Everything went swimmingly for him, and not in some Russia, but in the USSR itself, he destroyed a great empire and didn't even flinch. And today's bigwigs-bourgeois, compared to whom Gorbachev is a naive young man, that's not a problem, for some reason can't destroy some insignificant Russia compared to the USSR and hand it over to the West. Such a vertical has been built, they have been in power for 30 years, but no matter how much they "destroy industry, science, education and health care", for some reason they can't. But, as Per se (Sergey) says, the joint efforts of the West and our bourgeoisie have found a way out - this is the SVO, which will bleed Russia dry, empty its arsenals. And then no one will stop the owners of Russia - the oligarchs - from concluding a shameful agreement with the West and handing over nuclear weapons to them.laughing
            1. +1
              24 July 2024 06: 27
              Quote: Vasia
              Interestingly you do it

              “It’s interesting” for you too, Vasily. Do you really not understand the meaning, or is this your job? It is impossible to openly surrender the country, the people and the army will not understand, they will raise them with pitchforks, especially in the presence of such a nuclear potential that remains from a great country. Therefore, they say one thing, but in reality everything turns out differently, this is not only the notorious pension reform. Why? Do you want to say that our moneybags are in no way dependent on the West? If so, the SVO would have started immediately, with Yanukovych’s official request for help, or, at a minimum, they would not have recognized Poroshenko, with the living and legitimate president of Ukraine that we had.
              Where and who has the money of our “elite”, and clearly this money is not stored in rubles. Where and with whom do the children of our “powers of this world” live, where are the yachts and villas of the oligarchs? Yeltsin was a kind of bull in a china shop, an outright traitor, a little more, and a rebellion would have ripened, there would have been a “kirdyk” to the selected capitalism and the loot from the deceived people. Now everything is much more cunning, PR, ratings, but even this is unlikely to hide the very strange discrepancy between words and deeds for the majority to realize. I don’t think you don’t understand this, it means, after all, “this is how work is”, we have learned well to pretend to be holidays, to pass off our immediate responsibilities as great favors and deeds for the people, having a bunch of unique “lawyers” and an army of public claqueurs.
  3. +1
    23 July 2024 04: 26
    The article is mediocre. There was an article here earlier "Medium-range ballistic missiles: the beginning of a new stage in the military-political confrontation between Russia and the United States" https://topwar.ru/246232-ballisticheskie-rakety-srednej-dalnosti-nachalo-novogo-jetapa-voenno-politicheskogo-protivostojanija-mezhdu-rossiej-i-ssha.html гораздо более подробная и существенная, хотя и не без некоторых ошибок.

    The situations are radically different. In the 80s, the deployment of Euromissiles became answer NATO to our Pioneers. Germany demanded this response, and the United States initially behaved quite restrained. By creating an existential threat to the USSR, the United States forced the USSR to agree to the INF Treaty. The missiles were initially deployed to remove our INF missiles from Europe. The personality of the leader of the USSR did not play a special role here in the fact of the conclusion of the INF Treaty - the threat was too great and real.

    Now the deployment by the Americans of the INF Treaty is not an answer - it is already a purely aggressive step (although it is being framed as an answer). Moreover, the primary reason for the US withdrawal from the INF Treaty is China. No matter how enemies the United States may be for us, we must admit that the strategic situation has changed and Chinese “Euromissiles” have become a real threat to the Americans and are not limited by any treaties. There was a hypothesis that this was an element of pressure on Russia to include China in the treaty through it. The United States did not begin deployment in Europe for a very long time after its withdrawal, and real changes occurred as a result of changes in its strategy in Ukraine.
    1. +7
      23 July 2024 05: 43
      you seem to be delirious. So, in response to “Evil China”, the p..ndos are placing missiles... there!... in Germany. Now look at the globe...
      1. 0
        23 July 2024 16: 28
        Can you read?
        The United States did not begin deployment in Europe for a very long time after its withdrawal, and real changes occurred as a result of changes in its strategy in Ukraine.

        After 2022, the US strategy changed - the resumption of bloc confrontation with Russia became paramount. And the United States could deploy the INF Treaty as early as 2019 - and even before then, the basis would be the good old Tomahawks.
    2. +1
      23 July 2024 08: 15
      Quote from: blackGRAIL
      Now the deployment of the INF Treaty by the Americans is not the answer - this is a purely aggressive step

      After Iskander flew more than 500 km during exercises, from which the United States considered that we had already deployed missiles that violated the treaty in Europe and considered this an answer hi
      1. -1
        23 July 2024 10: 37
        The withdrawal from the INF Treaty was a response to the appearance of long-range Iskanders. And the deployment of the INF Treaty in Germany is a response to the beginning of the largest war in Europe since WWII (also known as “SVO”)
        1. +2
          23 July 2024 13: 37
          And the SVO itself began, the USA only answered, yes
          1. -1
            23 July 2024 18: 55
            Not by herself, the USA started it. Biden went on television and announced: “I have made a decision to conduct a SVO, the goals of the SVO are denazification and demilitarization (...)”
            1. 0
              23 July 2024 19: 10
              And Biden’s associates said that they started this war in 2014.
              By the way, returning to your not at all sissy personality. How are the patriots doing, continue to shoot down all the missiles?
              1. -2
                23 July 2024 19: 31
                No new footage of the patriots being hit has appeared, nothing new here.
                1. +1
                  23 July 2024 19: 38
                  So the patriots shoot down everything within their reach, and this is all of Kyiv. You claimed that everything is going wrong and the Americans have wonderful missiles, both ballistic and anti-aircraft. And that footage of downed daggers is being kept secret by your Kiev authorities so as not to upset Putin
                  1. 0
                    23 July 2024 19: 46
                    Well, the patriots in Kyiv are not destroyed because of an agreement with the Americans, you won. I hope you enjoy the taste of your victory.
                    1. 0
                      23 July 2024 20: 21
                      This is better, I hope you have drawn conclusions and will no longer write nonsense here
        2. +1
          23 July 2024 16: 32
          The appearance of long-range Iskanders was a pretext - the US was not satisfied with the treaty itself with a weakened Russia and (the reason) the absence of China in it, which was massively increasing its INF. And I said the same about the SVO.
          1. 0
            23 July 2024 19: 00
            When the United States wants to withdraw from a treaty that does not suit it, it does not need a reason. The ABM Treaty was terminated because it “no longer corresponds to US interests.”
            1. 0
              23 July 2024 20: 10
              And yet, they did not come out openly, but found a reason. In general, contracts are concluded on equal terms - when both parties are capable of creating similar threats to each other. It is foolish to expect that agreements concluded between the two superpowers of the USSR and the USA will be valid between the USA and Russia, which after the 90s ceased to pose a threat to the West. This is reality and it's normal. As well as the fact that China has become a new threat (and in many ways a superpower).
      2. +1
        23 July 2024 10: 58
        Quote: BlackMokona
        After Iskander flew more than 500 km during exercises, from which the United States considered that we had already deployed missiles that violated the treaty in Europe and considered this an answer

        EMNIP it all started with a cruise missile for the Iskander, which turned out to be a land-based version of the Caliber. And the launch of naval "Calibers" from the Caspian Sea, which showed the real range of the naval version of the Kyrgyz Republic.
  4. +6
    23 July 2024 04: 54
    The main target of our missiles with nuclear warheads should still be the United States...Washington, Florida, Silicon Valley and other industrial areas...Europe is secondary.
    It is necessary to build missile positioning areas as close as possible to the US borders... only a direct threat to its existence will force Washington to agree to peaceful coexistence with Russia... there are no other options to conduct honest business with these swindlers and swindlers.
    When will the Kremlin realize these simple truths?
    1. +8
      23 July 2024 05: 08
      Where do you think these position areas are??? Chukotka?? 37 km and Alaska..
    2. D16
      0
      23 July 2024 22: 42
      It is necessary to build missile positioning areas as close as possible to the US borders...

      Remember how the Americans didn’t like Novosibirsk’s entry into Cuba and Venezuela? There could be 32 zircons there. Walk demonstratively, at full speed, demonstrating your presence. Good cause for concern. We need to put such visits on a regular basis, as soon as the arrogance diminishes. And there is no need to build any mines or military bases.
  5. +7
    23 July 2024 05: 06
    Only Navy ships and submarines with strategic bombers were available. Only they were under 24/7 NATO control.
    And the mines???? Weren't there silo-based ballistic intercontinental missiles?? Author??
    1. +4
      23 July 2024 05: 38
      Quote: Andrey VOV
      And the mines???? Weren't there silo-based ballistic intercontinental missiles??

      What do you think the Pershings were for?
      Or do you understand “disarming first strike” differently?
      1. +2
        23 July 2024 07: 40
        Yes, that's exactly what happened.
        The only possible answer at that time was the creation of the R36M2 missiles, whose launch time from the moment the launch command was received was (according to open sources) 5-6 minutes, which, taking into account the time to assess the situation and make a decision, was “on the edge” of the time limit for defeating our silos.
  6. +4
    23 July 2024 05: 13
    Quote: Andrey VOV
    Where do you think these position areas are??? Chukotka?? 37 km and Alaska..

    smile Alaska???... and what is so valuable there for the defeat of the United States... the main economic regions of the United States are still located thousands of kilometers further.
    Nicaragua, Venezuela, Cuba...The Kremlin should come to an agreement with the local leadership on the location of our military bases there, similar to the US bases in Poland and Romania. hi
    There is nothing new here.
    1. +9
      23 July 2024 05: 42
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      There is nothing new here.

      Except time and money.
      Venezuela is unstable, Nicaragua will easily be unstable. There is not enough money to stabilize. Cuba is not eager, and they will outbid the States (as well as others) if the states are pressed.
      If there were a strong fleet with nuclear missiles, it would still be possible to visit often...
      But to build it and maintain it - neither time nor money.
      1. -1
        23 July 2024 13: 41
        Cuba - not eager
        how do you know? Most likely, no one asked the Cubans anything; they are not eager to ask us in the first place. Since there are many children of our important people in Florida, but the children of important Cubans live in Cuba. And oppositionists and terrorists who escaped from Cuba settled in Florida
        1. 0
          23 July 2024 19: 01
          Quote from alexoff
          how do you know?

          From a conversation with many Cubans.
          And think for yourself - why do they need this, especially from a country that recently betrayed them?
          WHAT can Russia give in response? The States have something to offer - a slight easing of sanctions and the standard of living in Cuba will jump.
          And so - remember Kazakhstan and its neighbors.
          1. +1
            23 July 2024 19: 08
            With the Cubans who run Cuba? For some reason, they were fine with nuclear weapons in the 60s and they were indignant when the missiles were removed.
            The States have something to offer - a slight easing of sanctions and the standard of living in Cuba will jump.
            there are no missiles there, no one has lifted sanctions for decades, when relations with the United States warmed up, they began to shake the regime with color revolutions. By the way, how are other Caribbean countries? They are probably thriving, there is no rampant crime and unemployment? Haiti, where Americans go as if it were their home, probably a showcase of the pro-American vector of life?
            1. +1
              24 July 2024 23: 55
              Quote from alexoff
              By the way, how are other Caribbean countries? They are probably thriving, there is no rampant crime and unemployment?
              и
              Well, you should go and have a look! laughing
              I was there - and yes, they are thriving. Compared to 1992. Same Mexico - I have been there for a long time almost every year for the last 25 years. It simply thrives, despite reports of crime and other horrors. The middle class appeared and filled everything. By the way, the medicine is excellent - I had my teeth and surgery done there myself (even though there were a number of countries to choose from)..
              Haiti? When was there American influence there??? You should read it - these are freedom fighters, they don’t like imperialists - and everyone else too. Dominican Republic? I also made a leap in development. All sorts of Turk and Coconut? - It’s very good there. Honduras and Guatemala - well, it’s useless to tell, you have to see, especially the difference over 20 years.
              But self-deception and myths are pleasant, I won’t dissuade you. If you don’t see that 20-30 years is a long time and civilization has only been moving forward for the last 1000 years - what to do... But remember at least the development of Turkey over 30 years laughing laughing laughing
              1. -1
                25 July 2024 01: 27
                Same Mexico - I have been there for a long time almost every year for the last 25 years.
                and what parts of Mexico do you visit? Apparently in tourist and major ones?
                When was there American influence there???
                Yes, in general, since 1915, when direct intervention began, they imprisoned their president back in 1994, then the Americans did not get out of there. Three years ago their president was killed. Conspiracy theorists say that in Haiti, the Democrats, together with Clinton, are conducting experiments on people, looking at how to lead a society in collapse.
                You should read it - these are freedom fighters, they don’t like imperialists - and everyone else too.
                you should read some books newer than Pushkin’s times, they put the freedom fighters in cancer quite quickly.
                They don’t see that 20-30 years is a long time and civilization has only been moving forward for the last 1000 years
                So everyone is moving forward, and Cuba too, and Venezuela. Probably in Peru, too, soon every family will have a refrigerator, and in El Salvador there will be mobile phones. It’s just that people are getting out of their prosperous countries as best they can, apparently they don’t want to feed the middle class
                1. +1
                  25 July 2024 06: 33
                  Quote from alexoff
                  and what parts of Mexico do you visit?

                  Yes, everywhere in general. Quaratero, Merida, Monterreu, Hermosilo, Guadalajara... And often by car. There is an industrial boom everywhere - China, Japan, Europe (Germany, Spain, France - less the States) are building. By the way, the day before yesterday I just flew to one of their interesting towns, and I’m writing from there.

                  Quote from alexoff
                  Three years ago their president was killed.

                  They killed themselves. The CIA, of course, is everywhere - even in the Kremlin, but the Americans are not supported. Like everyone else - they are angry with everyone and everyone is to blame. By the way, compare Haiti and the Dominican Republic even on the map - you can see that the Americans cut down all the forests in Haiti and left them in the Dominican Republic. laughing laughing laughing

                  The freedom fighters were placed in cancer quite quickly.

                  So those who staged it are also freedom fighters! Just different towers.

                  Quote from alexoff
                  It’s just that people are getting out of their prosperous countries as best they can, apparently they don’t want to feed the middle class

                  And you have no idea how many of ours are in Mexico - waiting to move to the states. However, if you have a VPN, find it on WhatsApp or Facebook - the community is sharing experiences! Check it out for yourself! laughing laughing
                  And “the people are getting out of those countries as best they can” - precisely because they can! And because it works. By the way, having earned some extra money, many come back. I was just talking to a Peruvian in the pool.

                  And returning to our sheep - Cuba and the desire to help us - there is no need to invent unnecessary things for yourself. 30 years ago there was an idea THERE. Now - like many in Russia (I quote some Zen comments on my comments) “Are you running out of booze? Don’t have anything to snack on?” - such are the interests.
                  1. -1
                    25 July 2024 12: 35
                    The CIA, of course, is everywhere - even in the Kremlin, but the Americans are not supported.
                    you famously ignored everything else, including the direct occupation and the export of the relatives of the sacked president to the USA
                    apparently the Americans cut down all the forests in Haiti and left them in the Dominican Republic.
                    so freedom fighters from the colonialists should be punished, and the Dominican Republic is a tourist area. And the source of bandits on the streets of the United States.
                    So those who staged it are also freedom fighters!
                    French and Americans? Only for the right freedom
                    And you have no idea how many of ours are in Mexico - waiting to move to the states.
                    of course, who are overwhelmingly non-Ukrainian
                    By the way, having earned some extra money, many come back.
                    American statistics say that they are not returning very much
    2. +8
      23 July 2024 06: 37
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      Nicaragua, Venezuela, Cuba...The Kremlin should come to an agreement with the local leadership on the location of our military bases there, similar to the US bases in Poland and Romania.
      There's nothing new here.

      If only it were that simple!
      Poland and Romania, for a second, are in a military alliance with the United States. Will we be able to protect Nicaragua, Venezuela and Cuba from Western military aggression?
      This will be the first question these countries ask us.
    3. man
      +1
      23 July 2024 09: 17
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      Quote: Andrey VOV
      Where do you think these position areas are??? Chukotka?? 37 km and Alaska..

      smile Alaska???... and what is so valuable there for the defeat of the United States... the main economic regions of the United States are still located thousands of kilometers further.
      Nicaragua, Venezuela, Cuba...The Kremlin should come to an agreement with the local leadership on the location of our military bases there, similar to the US bases in Poland and Romania. hi
      There is nothing new here.

      Better yet, negotiate a lease with the United States and install Iskanders immediately in Manhattan
  7. +10
    23 July 2024 05: 56
    1. It would seem that even Mitrofanov (the author of the funniest ideas in VO, for example, mesh covers and water cannons on ships to protect against BEC) began to realize: "Here it is necessary to make a remark - if the IRBM posed such a threat to the USSR, then it is possible that the INF Treaty was a blessing and not a betrayal". https://topwar.ru/246232-ballisticheskie-rakety-srednej-dalnosti-nachalo-novogo-jetapa-voenno-politicheskogo-protivostojanija-mezhdu-rossiej-i-ssha.html
    But come on, there are still geopoliticians who don’t like the INF Treaty.

    2. Of course, in addition to the RMSD - which in the form of the Typhon were already deployed in Europe last year in the Baltic - now NATO will have such wonderful things as, for example, the JASSM-ER in countries such as Finland and Poland. We draw "destruction radii" of 1000 km.
    Yes, and the F35, which, as is known from the articles of Military Defense, is absolutely useless, but insidiously “does not enter the air defense zone in Syria” is also deployed there - again we draw “damage radii”. What are the radii? Well, the other day the Israelis “distributed bream” to Yemenis in Hodeidah, about 1800 km away. It turns out, with refueling.

    3.
    Americans have several vulnerabilities.
    One of them is the presence of “partners” near Russia and a large number of military bases around the world. We have something to answer the enemy with. In addition to the obvious increase in missile potential in Kaliningrad and Belarus, it is worth turning our attention to the East.
    To the largest aircraft carrier in the United States - Japan. From Primorsky Krai to Tokyo it is only about 1 km. In the same cohort is South Korea - from Nakhodka to Seoul about 000 km.
    The Kremlin should respond asymmetrically. If missiles cannot be placed at the gates of Washington, then all US allies must be aware of their vulnerability. Coupled with the high population density of such regions, the consequences can be very dire.
    In my memory, there were three “seekers of American vulnerabilities”: a Korean, an Iraqi and a Syrian. The Korean lives more or less calmly. The Iraqi poet first lost his scientific reactor, and then “in two steps” both his country and his life. The Syrian doctor also lost his scientific reactor, he also has little left of the country (but he is alive and clearly controls the palace); All and sundry are roaming around the country (besides the definitely good people in the “pig”) - from the Turks to the Americans.
    By the way, the author has a great idea on how to finally force South Korea and Japan to understand who their “existential enemy” is and force them to more actively help the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
    Only Israel and Switzerland are not covered by the author’s plans, which is an omission - but they have mountains of old unnecessary weapons that the Ukrainian Armed Forces may end up with. Author, write more!
    1. +6
      23 July 2024 06: 26
      Quote: Wildcat
      It would seem that even before Mitrofanov (the author of the funniest ideas at VO
      ... it started to dawn on me

      May the "land" of Military Review not become depleted of strong talents!
      1. man
        +4
        23 July 2024 09: 19
        Quote: Stas157
        Quote: Wildcat
        It would seem that even before Mitrofanov (the author of the funniest ideas at VO
        ... it started to dawn on me

        May the "land" of Military Review not become depleted of strong talents!

        only not “earth”, but “water”
    2. 0
      23 July 2024 13: 44
      Iraqi poet first lost his scientific reactor
      If my memory serves me correctly, he lost the reactor when he and the United States were passionately kissing, and they were selling him anthrax and other chemicals purely for scientific purposes
      1. 0
        23 July 2024 13: 57
        Everyone was noted in trade there (chemistry and biology are Germans/French), but friendship with the hegemon had cooled by that time.

        And it’s interesting that there are very good questions about the range of the F16 and F15 with weapons and without refueling. There is a place closer to the reactor where there is airrefueling and where F15 and F16 were - Incirlik.
        The Turks, by the way, didn’t really need Saddam with the bomb either.
        Yes, and the demonstrative flights of the Israelis over the King of Jordan and with attempts to get through to the Jordanian Saddam also seem to hint...
        1. -1
          23 July 2024 14: 31
          friendship with the hegemon had cooled by that time
          you are confusing something, in 1981 there was a honeymoon with the hegemon, only recently love at first sight happened. The United States then condemned Israel and suspended the supply of weapons there
          1. 0
            23 July 2024 14: 50
            https://topwar.ru/234339-saddam-otnoshenija-s-ssha-v-period-irano-irakskoj-vojny-ili-ot-sotrudnichestva-do-jeshafota.html
            Rather, 1982 was the beginning of “honey at first sight.” Although who can sort them out now...
            1. 0
              23 July 2024 15: 47
              The first look began when the Islamic Revolution broke out, after which the relationship began to grow stronger every day. They especially began to grow stronger as the Persians resisted and began counterattacks. Likewise, by the way, Türkiye was showered with love, but at least she was not sent to the slaughter
              1. 0
                23 July 2024 16: 11
                IMHO, love-carrots did not include sadomasochism with A-Bomb.

                But manifestations of passion are not very interesting here.
                A couple of times I came across an analysis of "Opera" with the conclusion - theoretically possible for F15, unlikely for F16.
                And here Incirlik is nearby... and a good question/one of the options is how to distinguish F15/16 from the US Air Force and Israel from afar or nearby...
                1. 0
                  23 July 2024 16: 20
                  IMHO, love-carrots did not include sadomasochism with A-Bomb.
                  Well, in general, Americans in 90% of cases organized BDSM games with their allies, which is still unclear who is better to be - an enemy or a friend.
                  A couple of times I came across an analysis of "Opera" with the conclusion - theoretically possible for F15, unlikely for F16.
                  Well, we flew to Yemen with a tanker, we could have done the same then. And the reactor was French. The Americans gave 99% the go-ahead, but they probably said to Saddam that they were very much against it and it couldn’t be done this way.
                  1. 0
                    23 July 2024 16: 43
                    There was just a problem with the gas stations.
                    IMHO, Israel “self-burned” the first 707 Boeing tankers with a boom later. And dragging a tanker through 3 countries is not a good idea.
                    Fuel problems point to Incirlik.
                    1. 0
                      23 July 2024 16: 50
                      Well, Soviet air defense specialists could shed the truth, there were probably some radars. And so we will probably never know the truth about many events of the Cold War. What was the American contribution to the terrorist attacks in France in 1961? And in Italy? Was the Cuban passenger plane blown up with the approval of the CIA? Everyone seems to know, but try to prove it.
  8. +3
    23 July 2024 07: 05
    Let's be objective. Our RSD Pioneer, deployed instead of the monoblock 8k63, appeared in the European part in the mid-70s. We were the first to upset the balance. The Americans, not particularly known for keeping their word, simply cleverly exploited our miscalculation with the deployment of RSDs. Even before Gorbachev, the clan of irreplaceable old ones laid a mine under the country's security...
    1. -1
      23 July 2024 18: 15
      I wonder when do you think Pershing-1a appeared in Europe?
  9. +1
    23 July 2024 07: 26
    If you remove the owl from the globe, you will see that the United States has allies near our borders, but we do not and never will have any allies near their borders.

    There is good news - Russia is not an enemy of the United States and does not pose a real threat to it, but China is. At the same time, Russia’s economic power is gradually declining, while China’s power is growing quite quickly.

    Hence our global task is to under no circumstances become a military ally of China.
  10. +4
    23 July 2024 08: 14
    It is not possible to escape from the Iskander, but it only has a range of 500 km, which is not enough.


    Non-nuclear. Nuclear warheads are smaller and lighter than conventional ones. With such a warhead, the range of the Iskander without much modification will increase to 800-1000 km.
    The same goes for "calibers".
  11. +5
    23 July 2024 08: 18
    Quote: Come in large numbers
    Our Pioneer RSDs, placed instead of monoblock 8k63, appeared in the European part in the mid-70s. We were the first to upset the balance.


    Our RSDs replaced outdated missile systems, the Yankees deployed their Pershings and Tomahawks in addition to what they already had, like their allies. We did not upset the warhead balance.

    You cannot take into account only RSD, you need to take into account the entire arsenal of nuclear weapons. We had more RSDs, but the potential enemy had more other carriers (primarily aviation ones).
  12. +4
    23 July 2024 08: 27
    Yes, all the Americans want is an endless war everywhere except at home. Until there is a threat of destruction of their territory, strings will be pulled. The ocean is behind them for now. So, either China should wait and go to Cuba, or hang around the United States until they remove all the infrastructure from our borders to their overseas...
  13. -2
    23 July 2024 08: 28
    Americans have several vulnerabilities.

    All military bases are vulnerable points for the United States, especially those located outside the law on the territory of sovereign states.
    US bases and the missiles deployed on them must deflect a hypothetical missile strike from US territory. And Russia needs to warn the states that any strike on Russian territory from any military base will mean a declaration of war with all the ensuing consequences.
    The placement of the RIAC on the territory of Russia and Europe is similar to the situation when a cow is taken out into the field and placed in a one-room apartment.
    If they don’t want to live in Europe, that’s their right.
    1. +2
      23 July 2024 08: 41
      Let us hypothetically assume that there is an agreement allowing our submarines to be in the territorial waters of Cuba and Venezuela (within a 12-mile zone from the shore); they will be relatively safe there and the crews can periodically rest on the shore.
      1. +2
        23 July 2024 11: 02
        Quote: agond
        Purely hypothetically, let’s assume that there is an agreement allowing the presence of our nuclear submarines in the territorial waters of Cuba and Venezuela (within a 12 mile zone from the coast), they will be relatively safe there

        Yeah... like animals in a zoo cage under the gun of a hunter.
        In these parts, even an LCS is a PLO ship. smile
      2. -1
        23 July 2024 13: 45
        Quote: agond
        Let us hypothetically assume that there is an agreement allowing our submarines to be in the territorial waters of Cuba and Venezuela (within a 12-mile zone from the shore); they will be relatively safe there and the crews can periodically rest on the shore.

        - Ehma! - said locksmith Artemkin. - Kaby know something before!
        “How can I make a potion?” - asked from the audience.

        Directly with nuclear weapons on board? Or just with the crew?
  14. +2
    23 July 2024 08: 58
    At the same time, the USSR could not deliver a symmetrical decapitation strike on America from ground platforms.
    Why didn’t SATAN read further?
  15. +1
    23 July 2024 09: 40
    If missiles cannot be placed at the gates of Washington, then all US allies must be aware of their vulnerability

    So what's the point? They realize it now, but decisions are made in Washington, so this is far from a retaliatory move.
    To forestall this deployment would have been a strong response, but Russia, which we lost, is not the USSR, and is not capable of such a thing.
    We also cannot place anything in space (although this is far from what is needed in terms of efficiency), since we are obviously weaker than the enemy. So there is only one way out - to develop the Pacific Fleet and ensure a constant threat from our SSBNs.
  16. +1
    23 July 2024 09: 45
    What an interesting annotation to the article:

    To everyone who was nostalgic for the times of the developed Soviet Union, welcome to the new reality - medium- and shorter-range missiles are appearing again in Europe. Cold War 2.0 looks like...


    How the unforgettable Arkady Babchenko immediately stank. His style.
    Yes, I am one of those who are nostalgic and will continue to be nostalgic for the USSR. To the great and proud power that we have lost. Which gave a worthy response to such calls, instead of pseudo-patriotic chatter.
  17. 0
    23 July 2024 09: 52
    The fact that an agreement on the reduction of short- and medium-range missiles was signed was good at that time. Everything was heading towards the collapse of the USSR. It was in the air. Apparently, the leadership of the Soviet Union guessed about this. It would be difficult to maintain this entire economy after the collapse of the country. And destroying missiles at the expense of the United States was not a bad idea at that time. After all, strategic nuclear forces remained in normal condition. At that time, this decision was smart.
  18. 0
    23 July 2024 10: 09
    This fuss about medium and short-range missiles is not worth attention. All these theories of the rapid destruction of the leadership of the Russian Federation are just chatter. Moscow is protected by a missile defense system. Not very bad. So there will be time for a backlash. In addition, there is a “Perimeter” (“Dead Hand”) system. No one will hide anywhere. And no one will check these systems. After all, there will be no second chance. Like I “saved,” like in the game, won’t help. This is all being done so that the Pentagon and military-industrial complex corporations receive money from the US budget.
  19. 0
    23 July 2024 10: 16
    Cruise missiles are cheaper, but it is better to respond with ballistic missiles due to their rapid delivery of special warheads.
  20. -2
    23 July 2024 10: 33
    Quote: S.Z.
    Hence our global task is to under no circumstances become a military ally of China.

    Who is asking the residents of the Russian Federation? The United States has one task - to prevent the PRC from accessing resources on the territory of the former USSR. And they will act in this matter, harshly, without any sentimentality.
    You don’t have to look far for an example - Khodorkovsky’s imprisonment for his intention to sell YUKOS to the People’s Republic of China, the transfer of Crimea to the Russian Federation, so that it would not go to the Chinese.
    We are already screwed anyway. The Russian people are driven into the reservations of megacities and are superfluous in the global system of division of labor. There are simply no reserves to correct the situation. In the event of a serious complication of the situation, all these imaginary friends in the form of the Republic of Belarus or Putin’s foot soldiers will immediately betray.
    Now only the stupid anti-Soviet cattle will understand why the leadership of the CPSU and the USSR spent so much effort on the defense industry.
    1. +1
      23 July 2024 18: 20
      Khodorkovsky's imprisonment for his intention to sell Yukos to China, the transfer of Crimea to the Russian Federation, so that it would not go to the Chinese.
      what fabulous stories. Probably due to the fact that the Russian Federation limited itself to Crimea, China took the rest of Ukraine
  21. 0
    23 July 2024 10: 39
    Armchair strategists with militant slogans cause nothing but laughter.
    For 30 years they have been destroying the economic system of socialism for the sake of international capital, but they argue that they are all in the USSR, with its most powerful industry and science.
  22. -1
    23 July 2024 10: 48
    Adapting sea-based Calibers, as well as X-series products from VKS, is relatively inexpensive, but the effect can be amazing.

    Whom to hit? Allies in Europe? Well, in the event of a global mess, they can be sacrificed, but the missiles obviously won’t reach the United States itself. Bases all over the world? Again, they were written off in advance in the event of a global war.
  23. +1
    23 July 2024 11: 00
    Quote: Dozorny severa
    We are already screwed anyway. The Russian people are driven into the reservations of megacities and are superfluous in the global system of division of labor. There are simply no reserves to correct the situation. In the event of a serious complication of the situation, all these imaginary friends in the form of the Republic of Belarus or Putin’s foot soldiers will immediately betray.


    Do not panic!

    Of course, no one is waiting for our people in the international system of division of labor, but we are quite capable of participating there even without being asked. We have some reserves, for example, natural resources. The main thing is not to get involved in adventures.

    But you really shouldn’t count on friends. The main thing is that we should not allow serious complications with our participation.

    Of course, we need to remember about the USSR, but we shouldn’t hope for its return.
  24. 0
    23 July 2024 11: 03
    The Kremlin should respond asymmetrically. If missiles cannot be placed at the gates of Washington, then all US allies must be aware of their vulnerability. Coupled with the high population density of such regions, the consequences can be very dire.


    This is all true, but we need to distinguish between a firefight against troops and bases and a disarming strike on our command posts and mines, so that our ballistic missiles do not take off.
  25. -1
    23 July 2024 11: 28
    Good article, positive.
  26. +1
    23 July 2024 12: 07
    Yes, Americans don’t care about their allies. I read somewhere (in my opinion, an article by General Ivanov) that the United States has a plan to unleash a nuclear war on the Eurasian continent, so that 40-60 years after it (when the radioactive background decreases) it will acquire a huge raw material base for the United States.
    1. 0
      23 July 2024 18: 21
      And what will they do with these resources? The Ivanov generals don’t know much about economics, apparently, they don’t know that sales markets are more important than resources
      1. 0
        25 July 2024 11: 53
        How can their concept of the “golden billion” be correlated with your statement?
        1. 0
          25 July 2024 12: 27
          The golden billion requires the presence of non-golden billions. Someone has to work for them, someone has to compare their life with
          1. 0
            26 July 2024 11: 54
            Was it a "broad leap"? laughing
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  28. 0
    23 July 2024 12: 31
    Why couldn’t it be possible to start developing or converting into missiles cf. and short-range at least in 2023?? We're not like that again???
  29. 0
    23 July 2024 12: 39
    If you can't put missiles at the gates of Washington...
    On the property of a farmer living in southeastern Canada, there is a strange container. And then one day a rocket flies out of this container and zooms around Washington. I'll dream about something like this.
  30. +1
    23 July 2024 13: 30
    Actually, this forced the Soviet Union to create “Buran”, which became the crown of the country’s military-industrial complex and its swan song.
    No, Buran was created to serve a group of attack satellites. After the decision was made to non-militarize space, its existence lost its meaning.
    The missiles' flight time was measured in minutes. According to the Americans, such a decapitating strike was supposed to leave the nuclear shield of the Soviet Union without command, and therefore without retaliatory action.
    Give the launch codes to the divisions and God bless them and the leadership, let them take them out. They'll sort it out on the ground without him.
  31. -2
    23 July 2024 14: 26
    Guys, this sounds very strange - America will supply SMD missiles to Germany. And nothing, no one there, has anything encouraging that our INF Treaty could easily end up in Cuba or Venezuela? What kind of defeatist statement is this - as soon as our missiles are in Cuba, then immediately the Caribbean crisis 2.0 and oh-oh-oh?!? Remember, they must fight and make excuses, they must be afraid and shake. If we tolerate such rhetoric and accept such narratives, then they will continue to wipe their feet on us. Our leader must speak out and declare firmly and without beating around the bush - as soon as the movements on the INF Treaty in the geyropa begin, our missiles will be under the belly of the United States and the first strike, no matter where from where, something will take off from the territory of the geyropa will be all that we have on the territory of the United States. And not a single globalist bastard will survive in their bunkers in the Cheyenne Mountains, and if you are lucky enough not to die right away, then the survivors will envy the dead! Because the territory of the United States will be glassed and radioactive. That's it, this is the only way they talk to international gopniks and bandits - by sticking a knife into the belly and turning, stepping parallel to the heel of the boot on the Adam's apple...
  32. +1
    23 July 2024 15: 03
    Cool globe after all. The difference in missile launch distances to Washington from Anadyr and Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky is approximately 6500 and 8500 km. From Kaliningrad 6700 km. Closer from the island in the north, as it turns out, is the Arkhangelsk region - 6000 km. On the screen below. Miracles. And who else needs planes and submarines there?! Not to mention aircraft carriers and other rubbish.
  33. +1
    23 July 2024 15: 09
    From the American point of view, the idea is correct, but the new player here is China.
    They are installing IRBMs in Germany and in Southeast Asia. There are already two countries that want to install their IRBMs in South America. Both have IRBM and GP missile technologies. In addition, the PRC has a developed economy and relations with third world countries too. We'll see!
  34. -1
    23 July 2024 16: 13
    As we focus on retaliation, our ICBMs must become invulnerable. That is, small and unnoticeable. I wrote about this back in 2011 and I will repeat: 10 monoblock ICBMs weighing 000-15 tons can be hidden in any trucks and arched warehouses.
    Secondly, their warheads should become maintenance-free. Those. no thermonuclear, exclusively uranium and plutonium warheads with a shelf life of 60-100 years. We don't have to worry about the problems of radioactive contamination of the United States after their attack.
    Thirdly, rockets must be liquid-fueled. Liquid fuel has a longer shelf life if it is stored in corrosion-resistant tanks and the rocket is refueled only before launch.
    .
    the presence of such invulnerable potential will prevent a third world war.
    1. 0
      23 July 2024 17: 17
      In addition to the traditional locations of missiles on submarines and in silos, other options are possible, for example, placing the missile in a special launch container, then placing the container on the seabed near your shore (within your territorial waters at a depth of 100-150 m) and connecting it with a cable to the shore, on command, the container on the bottom stands up and floats, if the sea surface turns out to be covered with ice, the container will easily break through it, and then a mortar launch of the missile from the container. If necessary, the container can be raised for inspection or for reinstallation in another place. It is impossible in principle to track from a satellite where it is installed, and the length of our coastline is very long.
      1. 0
        23 July 2024 18: 34
        What you described is called “Skif”, and I suspect that it violates a bunch of contracts and is therefore secret
        https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%84_(%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%B0)
    2. 0
      23 July 2024 17: 41
      Quote: also a doctor
      and refuel the rocket only before launch.

      It takes time to refuel.
      And if you cover the inside of the tank with glass, this means weight (and possibly reliability, well, it will break off and corrode the tank, or it will get somewhere and clog the nozzle).
  35. 0
    23 July 2024 17: 30
    had to leave the nuclear shield of the Soviet Union without command, and therefore without retaliatory action.

    Perimeter, right?
  36. +2
    23 July 2024 17: 31
    Well, regarding the decapitation, the Americans are a little mistaken; in the USSR, the Perimeter system was created specifically for a retaliatory strike (Perimeter System [1] (Strategic Missile Forces airborne attack index - 15E601, in Western Europe and the USA it is known as the English Dead Hand [2], literally “Dead hand") - a complex of automated[3][4] control of a massive retaliatory nuclear strike) it was created in the USSR precisely realizing that the entire leadership of the USSR could be destroyed by several missile strikes from Western Germany. The old communists realized this, but Gorbachev, Akhromeyev and Shevardnadze did not want to die in the prime of their lives and therefore made many concessions, the same Akhromeyev removed the line from the military doctrine of the USSR on delivering a preemptive strike and only responding after enemy missiles explode on territory of the USSR.
  37. ada
    0
    23 July 2024 18: 19
    The abolition of all rules in the new Cold War by America will allow Russia to no longer stand on ceremony in Ukraine.

    Why "cold"? At least to me, there are no noticeable steps on the part of the United States in “chilling out” its long-term military planning, or does what is happening in several regionally separated theaters give off a “chill” vibe? Then, perhaps the author will list all the signs that characterize the main indicators of regional VC as a “Cold War”?
    But to me, everything that is happening around reminds us of the step-by-step implementation of this planning from what was previously mastered, taking measures to correct what turned out to be unrealistic, which is impossible to master and implement, or failed, simply lost to us, as well as the preparation of a promising one and there is nothing “cold” in sight because “sunset” looms on the event horizon. In such situations, they go “all-in”. wassat
  38. 0
    23 July 2024 18: 25
    Gorbachev surrendered to the USSR to remove the Pershings, but the Pershings returned. A lesson to everyone, treaties with the West are not worth a damn. You can only rely on the force of arms, and all legally significant documents are empty pieces of paper.
  39. 0
    23 July 2024 19: 37
    It won’t work whether you’re a target or not, and the overseas masters don’t give a damn about their slaves, that’s why they keep them on a short leash so that they can feed them at the right time. Everyone in the EU must know for sure, down to every yard dog, and understand one thing: we will not fight with them, we do not have the resources for this. We will simply destroy them, quickly and surely by all available means. It’s like in a fight with several opponents who, in addition, are stronger and healthier, there is no trick against a crowbar, you need to knock out and cripple with 1 blow and the healthiest one, without hesitation or hesitation, use any weapon if you want to live.
  40. -1
    23 July 2024 19: 51
    Quote: S.Z.

    Do not panic!

    Yes, what kind of panic is there - unlike you, we do not have Israeli citizenship...
  41. 0
    23 July 2024 20: 30
    At the same time, the USSR could not deliver a symmetrical decapitation strike on America from ground platforms. Only Navy ships and submarines with strategic bombers were available.


    Well, not quite like that. The “Pioneer” is a medium-range missile, from Chukotka it reached: bases in Alaska (100-200 km), reached large centers of the Pacific coast of the USA - California, San Francisco (4.8-5 thousand km).

    The deployment of RS-10 Pioneer missiles in Chukotka provoked the United States to begin negotiations with the USSR, which led to the conclusion of the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty (INF Treaty)
  42. -1
    23 July 2024 22: 20
    Yes, this lice larva, prostitute Gorby, has done a lot of trouble!!! Glassy earth to the traitor! Maybe we will live to see the time when this person will be cursed at the level of the state and church and his grave will be razed to the ground!!!
  43. 0
    23 July 2024 23: 35
    Well, in principle, the United States deceived the poor and gullible Mishanya Gorbachev twice. They did not include sea-based short- and medium-range missiles in the treaty. And given that the launchers are unified, it is possible to “load” Europe with missiles during the approach of the Hercules and its unloading and delivery of missiles to points..
  44. 0
    24 July 2024 08: 16
    Quote: Reklastik
    Mikhalych just hasn’t settled down yet laughing laughing

    Have you, my dear, already settled down or become polluted? drinks
  45. 0
    24 July 2024 08: 54
    Quote: Not the fighter
    Whom to hit? Allies in Europe? Well, in the event of a global mess, they can be sacrificed, but the missiles obviously won’t reach the United States itself.


    Well, well, Europe is completely unimportant for the USA. If it were so, the Yankees would have left Europe long ago. A key region for them. RSDs will not reach the United States, but there are also ICBMs. And let’s not forget: in the event of an exchange of nuclear strikes of equal power (number of warheads, total power), US losses, both human and material, will be three times higher than those of the Russian Federation, at least.
  46. 0
    24 July 2024 10: 53
    I think that the Russian Federation simply needs to withdraw from all agreements with the West, or rather from those that are unprofitable for us.
    For example, from treaties on the non-proliferation of missile technologies, on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons, on the ban on testing in any environment.
    Arm the DPRK with missiles to Japan and the USA, Iran.
    Fire Lavrov from the Foreign Ministry, he can't cope, and I'm sure there are many points of influence on Western policy, but he doesn't use them. His daughter is studying abroad.
    A lot can be done if we influence Western businessmen. Namely, many of them have bunkers in New Zealand, it is necessary to aim 20 heavy class warheads at it, and all countries where there are bunkers should be targeted.
    We must seriously work with Mexico; having an ally close to the main enemy is worth a lot.
    But by and large, the current leadership of the country has completely discredited itself and is planning something with it to doom itself to unnecessary torment, because it is weak and if something happens, it will be the first to run away and betray.
  47. -1
    25 July 2024 21: 51
    I read the comments and smile. Which.... Cuba? For what? There were 40 missiles in total in Cuba. And what? 2 submarine cruisers. At the pier. They completely solve the problem. Without Cuba, Mexico and others. And what? If you don't use the member. Then you can die a saint. Or a fool. It depends on the point of view. Geography has nothing to do with it.
  48. 0
    12 September 2024 07: 25
    Quote: ramzay21
    Nuclear warhead remnants are taken seriously

    Nuclear warheads are obsolete, only thermonuclear ones remain.