Moon Treasure - Helium-3

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A handful of soil, which was picked up on the crest of the Camelot lunar crater, slipped off the usual scoop into a special teflon bag and went with the Apollo 17 team to Earth. On that day, December 13 of 1972, few could have imagined that a lunar soil sample was numbered 75501, as well as soil samples delivered by Appolon 11 and a number of other expeditions, including the Luna 16 Soviet research station will serve as a weighty argument for humankind to return to the moon in the 21st century. Awareness of this came only after 30 years, when young scientists from the University of Wisconsin, in a sample of lunar soil, found significant helium content-3. This very interesting substance is an isotope of a well-known gas, helium, which is filled with colorful balloons during holidays.

Even before the lunar missions of the USSR and the USA, a small amount of helium-3 was found on our planet, then this fact interested the scientific community. Helium-3, with its unique intra-atomic structure, promised scientists fantastic prospects. If helium-3 can be used in a nuclear fusion reaction, it will be possible to get a tremendous amount of electricity without sinking in the dangerous radioactive waste that is produced at nuclear power plants regardless of our desire. The extraction of helium-3 on the Moon and its subsequent delivery to Earth is not an easy task, but at the same time, those who get involved in this adventure can become the owner of a stunning reward. Helium-3 is the substance that will be able to permanently rid the world of "drug addiction" - fossil fuels, an oil needle.

On Earth, helium-3 is fatally short. A huge amount of helium originates in the Sun, but a small fraction of it is helium-3, and the bulk of it is much more common helium-4. As long as these isotopes move as part of the “solar wind” towards the Earth, both isotopes undergo changes. So precious for earthlings, helium-3 does not reach our planet, as it is thrown away by the Earth’s magnetic field. At the same time, there is no magnetic field on the moon, and here helium-3 can freely accumulate in the surface layer of the soil.
Moon Treasure - Helium-3

Nowadays, scientists consider our natural satellite not only as a natural astronomical observatory and source of energy resources, but also as a future reserve continent for earthlings. At the same time, it is the inexhaustible source of space fuel that is the most attractive and promising. A new possible continent for earthlings is at a distance of only 380 thousands of kilometers from our planet, with some kind of global catastrophe on Earth there might well have been a shelter for people. From the moon, without any hindrances, one can observe other celestial objects, so on Earth this is interfered to some extent by the atmosphere. But the main thing is the inexhaustible reserves of energy, which, according to scientists, would be enough for humanity for 15 000 years. In addition, there are stocks of rare metals on the moon: titanium, barium, aluminum, zirconium, and that's not all, scientists say. Today, mankind is only at the very beginning of the path to the exploration of the moon.

Currently, China, India, USA, Russia, Japan - all these countries are in line for the Moon, and these countries are becoming more and more. Another surge of interest in the moon began in the middle of the 90s of the last century. Then in the scientific community there was an assumption that there could be water on the moon. Not so long ago, the American LRO probe with the Russian Lend device was finally confirmed - there really is water on the Moon (in the form of ice at the bottom of craters) and there is a lot of it here (up to 600 million tons), and this solves many problems.

The presence of water on the moon is especially valuable, as it can solve a large number of various problems that will arise when building lunar bases. Water will not have to be delivered from Earth, it can be processed directly on the spot, notes Igor Mitrofanov, head of the laboratory of space gamma spectroscopy at IKI. According to some calculations, with due desire and funding, humankind could have settled on our natural satellite in 15 years already. In this case, most likely, the first inhabitants of the Moon would live on its poles near large stocks of detected water.

However, much on the moon would have to get used to the new - even to such a process as walking. It is much easier to jump on the Moon, that gravity is less in 6 than on Earth, Neil Armstrong was convinced in his time when 40 first years ago set foot on the surface of a given celestial body. At the same time, the main enemy of man on the moon at present is radiation, the options for saving from which there are not so many. According to Lev Green Director of the Space Research Institute of the Russian Academy of Sciences, there is no magnetic field on our natural satellite. All radiation from the Sun gets to the Moon and it is quite difficult to defend against it.

At the same time, the fact that the Moon should become the first step for the advancement of man in space is an indisputable fact, says Lev the Green. According to him, the Moon can become a transit point for launches to other planets of the solar system. Also here it will be possible to place an early warning station about the approach to Earth of dangerous space objects: comets and asteroids, which is quite important in the light of recent events. However, the most important thing there is - helium-3, perhaps the space fuel of the future. It is hard to believe, but the dark gray dust lining the entire surface of the moon is the pantry of this unique substance.

Oil and gas on the planet does not last forever. According to some experts, without special problems, humanity will live on these resources of the order of 40 years. Today, nuclear power plants are the only alternative, but this is not so safe due to radiation. At the same time, the fusion reaction involving helium-3 is environmentally friendly. According to scientists, nothing better has been thought out yet and there are at least 2 reasons for this. Firstly, it is a very efficient thermonuclear fuel, and secondly, which is even more valuable, it is environmentally friendly, says Eric Galimov, director of the Institute of Geochemistry and Analytical Chemistry. IN AND. Vernadsky.

According to the calculations of Vladislav Shevchenko, the head of the research department of the Moon and planets of the State Astronomical Institute of Moscow State University, the helium-3 reserves on the Earth’s natural satellite will last thousands of years. According to experts, the minimum amount of helium-3 on the Moon is about 500 thousand tons, according to more optimistic estimates there are no less than 10 million tons. In a fusion reaction, when 0,67 tons of deuterium enter the reaction and 1 ton of helium-3, energy is released that is equivalent to the combustion energy of 15 million tons of oil. It is worth noting the fact that at present it is still necessary to study the technical feasibility of carrying out such reactions.

And the extraction of this substance on the moon will not be easy. Although helium-3 is located in the surface layer, its concentration in it is very low. The main problem at this time remains the reality of the extraction of helium from the lunar regolith. The content of the required energy of helium-3 is approximately 1 grams per 100 tons of lunar soil. This means that for the extraction of 1 tons of this isotope will need to process at least 100 million tons of lunar soil.

At the same time, helium-3 will have to be separated from unnecessary helium-4, the concentration of which in the regolith is thousands of times more in 3. According to Eric Galimov, in order to extract a ton of helium-1 on the moon 3, as mentioned above, 100 million tons of lunar soil will be processed. We are talking about the site of the moon with a total area of ​​about 20 square kilometers, which will need to be processed to a depth of 3 meters! In this case, the very procedure of delivering to Earth 1 tons of this fuel will cost at least 100 million dollars. But in fact, even this very large amount is only 1% of the cost of energy that can be extracted at a fusion power plant from this raw material.

Shevchenko estimates that the cost of 1 tonnes of helium-3, given the creation of all the necessary infrastructure for its extraction and delivery to Earth, could be 1 billion dollars. At the same time, the transportation of 25 tons of helium-3 to Earth will cost us 25 billion dollars, which is not such a large amount, given that this scale of fuel is enough to provide people with energy for a whole year. The benefit of such an energy carrier becomes obvious if we calculate that only the United States spends about 40 billion dollars on energy carriers per year.

According to calculations made by the American astronaut Harrison Schmitt, the use of helium-3 in the earth's energy, taking into account all the costs of shipping and mining, becomes payable and commercially viable when the production of fusion energy using this raw material will exceed the power of 5 GW. In fact, this suggests that even 1 lunar-powered power stations will be enough to make delivery to Earth cost-effective. According to Schmitt estimates, the amount of upfront costs at the research stage will be about 15 billion dollars.

One of the possible options for the extraction of helium-3 was proposed by Eric Galimov. In order to organize the extraction of the isotope from the lunar surface, he proposes to heat the regolith to 700 degrees Celsius. After that it can be liquefied and removed to the surface. From the point of view of modern technology, these procedures are fairly simple and well known. The Russian scientist proposes to heat the raw material in special “solar ovens”, which, with the help of large concave mirrors, will focus sunlight on the regolite. At the same time from the lunar soil can be distinguished contained in it: oxygen, hydrogen and nitrogen. And this means that the lunar industry could produce not only raw materials for the terrestrial energy complex, but also rocket fuel for the rockets carrying it, as well as air and water for people working at lunar enterprises. Currently in the United States are also working on similar projects.

But this is not all that the lunar soil can give us. In regolith there is a high content of titanium, which in the long term will help organize the production of elements of the corps of rockets and industrial structures directly on the Earth’s natural satellite. In this case, only high-tech elements of rockets, computers and instruments will have to be delivered to the moon. And this may open a second promising direction for the entire lunar economy - the construction of the most economical cosmodrome, the scientific base for the study of the entire solar system.

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  1. +12
    25 February 2013 08: 44
    Whoever first mastered the moon - he will receive a huge trump card and a huge envy of the neighbors
    1. +5
      25 February 2013 09: 41
      Quote: Kaetani
      Who is the first to master the moon


      This conversation is meaningless, while the payload of the space-rocket system does not exceed 1% of its starting mass
      1. +2
        26 February 2013 05: 01
        And the budget load is more than 1 percent. GDP.
        And the loss of oxygen burned by mass rockets to the moon - exceeds its natural reproduction by all plants.
      2. 0
        1 March 2013 14: 26
        not in the moon
    2. Beck
      0
      25 February 2013 12: 47
      Quote: Kaetani
      Whoever first mastered the moon - he will receive a huge trump card and a huge envy of the neighbors


      There is an international law signed by Russia and the USA that no celestial body can be under the jurisdiction of any state. That law also somehow agreed on the development of minerals.

      It was enough in the colonial era to fly a flag on a cliff to recognize all the land of thousands of square kilometers as its property.

      Actually, I am somewhat surprised that there are no inadequate comments on this article yet. Which, in order to put America in their pocket, deny the landing of Americans on the moon on Apollo - 11. Like everything in Hollywood is filmed.
      1. +1
        25 February 2013 13: 24
        "Actually, I am somewhat surprised that there are no inadequate comments on this article. Those, in order to put it in America's pocket, deny the American landing on the moon on Apollo - 11. They say everything in Hollywood is filmed."

        But this phrase directly provokes lust in America’s pocket.
        And all the hypotheses are only due to the fact that with the flights to the moon, definitely something is not clean.
        Without imploring the landing.
      2. Drappier
        +3
        25 February 2013 14: 13
        Quote: Beck
        Actually, I am somewhat surprised that there are no inadequate comments on this article yet. Which, in order to put America in their pocket, deny the landing of Americans on the moon on Apollo - 11. Like everything in Hollywood is filmed.

        laughing here with this koment it will provoke these same komenty
        1. Beck
          +2
          25 February 2013 17: 01
          Quote: Kaetani
          But this phrase directly provokes lust in America’s pocket.

          Quote: Drapper
          here with this koment it will provoke these same komenty


          Both. Tell me other reasons why some do not want to believe the American landing on the moon? The landing of the Soviet lunar rover is believed. The landing of Man of the Earth on the Moon is not believed. Although he was watching the whole World, which was not behind the iron curtain.

          And in your opinion, it’s my fault that I said. Then we must first look for someone inadequate responded to. How do I feel you are from those who sympathize with this most inadequate.
          1. +5
            25 February 2013 19: 47
            Quote: Beck
            Both. Tell me other reasons why some do not want to believe the American landing on the moon?


            Spit on this moon and Apollo-11

            NASA has hundreds of more significant achievements. Almost everything that we know about Space and the Solar System is received from American space observatories (Compton, Spitzer, Chandra, Hubble), rovers and automatic interplanetary stations (Voyagers, Pioneers, Vikings, Cassini, Messenger, Ulysses, Galileo, MRO, Starst New horizons, Dawn, Odyssey) - no one has ever explored space in the same way as American science did.

            In 2013, a new mission to Mars is planned (MAVEN)
            In 2016 - two launches InSight (Mars) and OSIRIS-Rex - soil delivery from an asteroid.
            2018 - New Orbital Observatory "J. Webb"
            (purely what we managed to recall offhand from memory)

            Photo - prelaunch preparation of the AMS "Juno" (launched in 2011 for the study of Jupiter)
          2. Drappier
            0
            26 February 2013 02: 08
            Quote: Beck
            Both. Tell me other reasons

            Well, just below, the Asgard man called everything, the TV crap said, so they weren’t.
            1. Beck
              0
              26 February 2013 11: 13
              Quote: Drapper
              Well, just below, the Asgard man called everything, the TV crap said, so they weren’t.


              And what Asgard said specific. There are many unexplained facts in science, the time will come to sort it out. And of course, one can build one’s denial on the phenomena that have not yet been studied, but it looks very amateurish.

              A satellite located in near-Earth orbit, equipped with advanced optics, recently spotted on the moon a trail cluttered in dust with the boot of an astronaut. Although this, in the opinion of the inadequate forged. And they didn’t build a collider in Europe, but they built underground Hollywood and now they are driving us movies about musons, quarks, gluons and all the rubbish that makes up the atom.
              1. Drappier
                +1
                26 February 2013 11: 29
                I’m sorry, I don’t understand? I’m not one of skeptics, in my opinion, corner reflectors are not in Hollywood, but 382 kg of soil, and in the end the USSR closely monitored this matter. After all, to convict the main enemy in a scam, it would be a holy thing.
                1. Beck
                  0
                  26 February 2013 12: 23
                  Quote: Drapper
                  I’m sorry, I don’t understand?


                  Now I apologize. These are all the features of communication on sites .. Misunderstandings sometimes come out. And I’ll add the USSR, like many other countries from those 382 kilograms of lunar soil, received its share for the study.
                  1. +4
                    26 February 2013 13: 50
                    Beck,
                    damn, before you in the comments to this article no one raised the topic of the amers ’flight, you raised it with words, and nobody raised something and now you argue with yourself and prove ... the scribe.
                    1. +2
                      26 February 2013 13: 53
                      +
                      I also noticed ....
                      laughing
                      For example, I think that they were most likely there, but they showed a fake on TV ...
                    2. Beck
                      0
                      27 February 2013 09: 42
                      Quote: El13
                      damn, before you in the comments to this article no one raised the topic of the amers ’flight, you raised it with words, and nobody raised something and now you argue with yourself and prove ... the scribe.


                      But because last week, on one of the pages, one proved to me that everyone in Hollywood was filmed. And some supported him. And here is such a topic and there are no refutants. So I was surprised. What can not be surprised?

                      Look Svshka, below, to directly say that amers did not fly to the moon, is getting stumbling. But assumes, only assumes that maybe maybe,
                      and flew, but on TV they definitely showed a movie.

                      Now, if I had not been surprised, Sashka would have definitely said that they did not fly.
                      1. 0
                        27 February 2013 10: 12
                        If I thought that they were not there, I would say so !!! Directly ...
                        But I do not know this ... I adhere to the same thing that most likely were, but video fake !!!
                      2. -2
                        27 February 2013 11: 43
                        Beck,
                        calm down, fly, sleep soundly ...
          3. +1
            7 October 2013 13: 53
            The landing of Man of the Earth on the Moon is not believed. Although it was the whole World that was not watching the Iron Curtain.

            The whole world saw only what was shown to him. But this is not news: all magicians work on that. Here is Copperfield, for example ...
      3. +4
        25 February 2013 20: 03
        There is an international law signed by Russia and the USA that no celestial body can be under the jurisdiction of any state. That law also somehow agreed on the development of minerals.


        I beg your pardon, I do not want to offend you, but you are either very trusting or very naive. Well, do you really believe that the United States will abide by the letter of the law if suddenly they have the opportunity to crush this "heavenly body" under their jurisdiction? Or maybe you don't know about the bombing of Iraq and Yugoslavia bypassing the UN Security Council? There are other examples as well. And yet, as the saying goes, "Blessed is he who believes."
        1. Beck
          -6
          26 February 2013 11: 53
          Quote: valton
          Well, do you really believe that the United States will abide by the letter of the law if suddenly they have the opportunity to crush this "heavenly body" under their jurisdiction?


          In fact, the civilized world adheres to the agreements that they signed. The West has not received permission from the Security Council and does not use its armed forces in Syria. The United States signed a treaty banning nuclear weapons in three environments, with the USSR, and did not detonate a single charge. Signed a US treaty on the destruction of chemical weapons and destroyed. The first invasion of Iraq in 1990 was authorized by the Security Council. And following the Security Council resolution, American troops did not take Baghdad, but stopped 70 kilometers from it.

          The operation in Yugoslavia took place not under the auspices of the United States, but under the auspices of NATO.

          And in space, the United States did not violate a single signed treaty. And the development of other planets will be carried out not by individual countries, but by the entire world community.
          1. +6
            26 February 2013 12: 20
            I wonder if propaganda works so well, or those who live in the USA are really degrading, become more naive ??!
            I didn’t want to offend, but you are simply blind ...
            US spit on the world community! Especially after the collapse of the USSR, which at least somehow opposed them.
            For all your remarks with the aim of ennobling the United States, I will ask just one question: "What the hell, the country located hz where, climbs into the same Iraq?! ?? !!"
            Yes, sometimes the Security Council is led by the United States, so some operations are authorized by the UN ...
            Under the pretext of WMD (which in real life) they destroyed Iraq, destroyed Libya (despite the opinion of the Security Council), destroyed Syria (though with the wrong hands), Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, etc., etc. !!!!! Everywhere where the states are involved, and that means EVERYWHERE !!!! - ruin, poverty and chaos reigns !!!!
            It is better to live under the "Dictator" Gaddafi than under terrorists sponsored by the West !!! The United States indirectly admitted that it was involved in the collapse of the USSR, and as a result, how many people died later! ??!? !!? How many have suffered?!?!?! How many?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? MILLIONS !!!!! I do not believe that the American naive people are to blame, but here is the government ...
            Because The USA considers itself, and partly as such, is the world SUPER SUPPORT, then they interfere everywhere, and THEY must bear responsibility for EVERYTHING !!!! And almost every person on Earth has the right to demand fabulous compensation from the US government for moral and physical harm caused directly or indirectly by the US government !!!! And the people of America, who always live on credit at the expense of others, should also be attracted for the unintended harm to health, death of millions of people, and terrible ecology (by the way, the United States has not signed any international standards for CO2 emissions, etc., etc.). K. are the largest source of pollution !!!) and much more !!!!!!
            So, dear Beck, I am sincerely sorry that your flag is the flag of the evil empire !!! And it’s even sadder that you can no longer distinguish good from evil ...
            Good luck to you!
            1. Beck
              -5
              26 February 2013 12: 46
              Quote: Sashka
              I wonder if propaganda works so well, or those who live in the USA are really degrading, become more naive ??!


              If this is for me.

              I do not live in the USA. This is a problem for admins with the program, for three days now they have been changing my flags.

              I don’t speak English, so that I can’t master the fullness of propaganda. And it’s not in those years that I swallowed propaganda, even with a bare hook, even with bait.

              Quote: Sashka
              "What the hell, a country located hz where, climbs into the same Iraq?! ?? !!"


              Because there dictator Hussein unleashed wars against neighbors. * summer with Iran and occupied Kuwait. Because Hussein poisoned his own people with fighting gas. Here you are standing on your landing, you hear that from behind the neighbor’s door are the heartbreaking cries of the neighbor’s drunk’s wife, who beats his wife in mortal combat. Already blood flows from under the doors. If you are human, you intervene. Or you will not meddle in their own affairs and allow the death of a woman.

              Libya, Tunisia after the overthrow of their dictatorships live, do not die. Hold free elections. That week, due to thousands of demonstrations regarding the assassination of the opposition leader, Volunteer Tunisian Prime Minister Hamadi Jalabi resigned. He left, but did not begin to bring tanks out into the street and shoot at his people, in order to maintain personal power. How does Bashar do it. If Bashar resigned two years ago, or had a fair election, then there would not have been 40 killed on both sides and the country would not have been flooded with orthodox trash.

              If you are better off living under dictators, then go to the DPRK or Syria, or to Iran. Why live in Russia, where it is bad, poor, but democracy. Elections are regularly held (by the way brought by world civilization), and everyone can express their word freely. Go there. You will plow on the field for a handful of rice for 16 hours, in the DPRK. Or you will live according to Sharia law, as in Iran and five times a day beat foreheads on the floor, beating out prayers. The thing is the master.

              The fact that the Union collapsed is to blame primarily on the unviable economic system of communism. She brought it to collapse. And the people if they would like to stay under the USSR. But he didn’t want to. And Western propaganda is the tenth thing. The USSR also had powerful propaganda against imperialism, but the West did not fall apart.

              And as for Good and Evil, it is necessary to see which of us defines this wrong.
              1. +9
                26 February 2013 13: 16
                Quote: Beck
                Here you are standing on your landing, you hear that from behind the neighbor’s door are the heartbreaking cries of the neighbor’s drunk’s wife, who beats his wife in mortal combat.

                A slightly wrong example. It should have been like this: "
                You’re standing on your landing, you hear that from behind the neighbor’s door, the heartbreaking screams of the neighbor’s drunk’s wife and her lover are heard, which together beat the poor man who can’t defend himself in a drunken stupor ... Something like that ...
                Quote: Beck
                Libya, Tunisia after the overthrow of their dictatorships live, do not die.

                Yes, that's just the locals themselves think differently ... And they say that while Gaddafi lived very well !!! Young families were given apartments, a rather big allowance, food, gasoline - they cost a penny !!!
                but now, just like in Iraq, Afghanistan and everywhere where the USA was, terrorist attacks, poverty, etc. !!!

                Quote: Beck
                That week, due to the thousandth manifestations about the murder of the leader of the opposition, he left
                ...
                If it hadn’t happened, what happened on the initiative of the United States would not have been this murder !!!
                try it
                Quote: Beck
                If you are better off living under dictators, then go to the DPRK or Syria, or to Iran.
                say North Korean !!! belay
                If not for UN sanctions from the United States, then these countries would have flourished for a long time !!!
                That's bad luck !!! Some Qatar, or S. Arabia, where kings have ruled, executed and killed for centuries, they are allies and friends of the United States, but someone who trample against the United States, or do not share oil, is the DICTATOR at once !!!! Double standards of the United States .... Why do not they go to the tribes of Indians whose laws are worse than dictatorships: stoned, imprisoned ... YES BECAUSE there is nothing to take from them !!!!! ....

                Quote: Beck
                The fact that the Union collapsed is to blame primarily on the unviable economic system of communism.

                She lived for almost 70 years, and was one of the leaders, and here she grunted at you with the HMS ... She was probably sick ...
                Although I think that infected !!! From the outside ... With vulgar films, slogans, songs, culture in the end ....
                In the 80s, everyone became obsessed with the western way of life, and this is the result ...
                Quote: Beck
                And the people if they would like to stay under the USSR. But he didn’t want to
                Here you are right, that's just the people who did not want then, regretted it many times !!!!
                After all, democracy is like a drug: I tried it well, then again, still good, but you don’t think about the consequences. And how it all ends is well known ...
                Quote: Beck
                And as for Good and Evil, it is necessary to see which of us defines this wrong.
                - if you think that allowing the child to indulge, not scolding for wrongdoing, not spanking, if you have a poor understanding of something you can’t do, - you act democratically and this is good, then you are deeply mistaken, because it is not known which race3,14zday grow from it !!!!! Let the example not illustrative, but vital !!!!
                1. Beck
                  -3
                  27 February 2013 10: 11
                  Quote: Sashka
                  A slightly wrong example. It should have been like this: "


                  Yes, even so. But in any case, it is necessary to stop the murder, to call the police, let the court understand.

                  How do you know what Tunisians and Libyans think at the moment? When they overthrew the dictators, it was clear what they were thinking. Now how do you know? In your opinion, Hitler did not have to overthrow Salazar or Franco either. And to say that the Germans, Portuguese, Spaniards cry for dictators.

                  DPRK You confuse the effect and the cause. South Korea, China, in one way or another, has always helped the DPRK with food. Then the DPRK began developing nuclear weapons. And only after that the world community adopted sanctions. The DPRK sneezed and created nuclear weapons, and now it’s meanly bargaining - Do not give food, we will conduct tests and attack the South Korea. Give will not attack.

                  Saudi Arabia and Qatar live as they live. If the peoples themselves do not want to overthrow their kings, no one intervenes. Maybe they themselves want to live like this. Now, if the peoples, as in Syria, rise massively, then the world community will undoubtedly be against kings and for the people. In addition, these countries do not seek possession of nuclear weapons.

                  The USSR was leading only militarily. By the welfare of the people of the USSR, the leader has never been. If the standard of living were like in Qatar, then the USSR would not fall apart. I don’t know how old you are. But I, as a boy, stood in 60 years, in line for bread from wallpaper flour, a loaf in my hands for 14 kopecks. And rice in one hand is not more than a kilogram. Therefore, the workers of Novocherkaska rose. Therefore, it was necessary to urgently buy grain in the USA and Canada for the last pennies. And until 90 years there was control and censorship. Without any films, the people did not want only secretaries of regional committees and chairmen of executive committees feasting in their lives. When, in order to get an apartment, you had to stand in line for half a life. When the shoes were bought for five years and repaired, they were repaired. When a coat was bought for half a life. So, do not fill my brains that in the USSR they ate black caviar with spoons and everything was fine I have lived most of my life in that life and do not want the power of the Communists.

                  Those who cried about the Empire regretted today. The peoples of the Baltic states, Transcaucasia, Ukraine, Belarus, Central Asia do not spare. After all, Russia remained within the borders of the RSFSR.

                  When I said that in raising a child does not need rigor? You yourself asked a question and you yourself answer as if I am against strictness.
                  1. +4
                    27 February 2013 10: 31
                    No, it’s something you are confusing ... The murder must be stopped, only the first killer in the World is the USA !!!!!!!!!
                    But Hitler, no one overthrew him ... He died in the war !!! NOT CIVIL !!!!!
                    DPRK .... Well, everything is simple, if it were not for the PRC and the fear of nuclear weapons, the United States would have dealt with them for a long time !!!!
                    And it’s interesting somehow it turns out that Obma, Sarkozy and the company kissed Gaddafi, hugged ... He paid for the election campaign of Sarkozy, and then a few years later they only realized that he was a dictator ... They supported the militants who killed him ... But evil like a boomerang, back !!! The same fighters killed the ambassador ...
                    You are simply mercantile ... You measure wealth in rubles, and I am in the goodness of my state of mind !!! It is not necessary to have chic foreign cars, palaces, there is black caviar to be happy !!!
                    In the USSR, people were happy, confident in the future !!! Apartments were issued free of charge !!!! And people did not bother to buy a new coat every year !!!
                    And if a person had an old coat, they did not look at him as a garbage of society !!!!
                    People were HAPPY !!!!!
                    And if at that time you dreamed about black caviar and maybach, then this is not a problem in the country, but in you ...
                  2. +2
                    7 October 2013 14: 18
                    Quote: Beck
                    In your opinion, Hitler did not have to overthrow Salazar or Franco either.

                    So Franco nobody really overthrew. Himself died at a venerable age, raising a successor king. And now in Spain no one is especially against him and does not rebel. At least, it was the only non-neutral country in Europe, which almost did not affect the horrors of WWII.
              2. +3
                26 February 2013 14: 21
                Quote: Beck
                The first invasion of Iraq in 1990 was authorized by the Security Council.

                And why clarify that the first invasion? You’ve been brainwashed, it’s good for you, but for yourself, why should you juggle the facts, choose only the convenient ones, you yourself understand that there is no way to write about the second?
                1. Beck
                  -3
                  27 February 2013 10: 17
                  Quote: El13
                  And why clarify that the first invasion? You’ve been brainwashed, it’s good for you, but for yourself, why should you juggle the facts, choose only the convenient ones, you yourself understand that there is no way to write about the second?


                  Because the second was without UN approval. What is not clear? Is it necessary to chew? Brains are washed in one whose thinking is poorly developed. When it goes without saying that if Hussein occupied Kuwait then that is bad. If he poisoned his own people with war gases this is bad. That dictatorship is bad.
                  1. +3
                    27 February 2013 11: 47
                    Brains are washed only by those who have them, so how else is it not brainwashing wassat
                    You just defended the amers so zealously that you had to be honest to the end that here they are goats bypassing UN sanctions ... or if you follow the rules of information wars, then omit the facts inconvenient for you, and you took and blurted out the "first" , well, then the people immediately remember, so there was the second, but you did not mention about it, why? Well, in the end I ended up in a puddle.
                    1. Beck
                      -2
                      27 February 2013 12: 33
                      Quote: El13
                      You just so zealously defended the amers,


                      I do not defend the United States. I am against the bloody dictators of modern times such as Hussein, Gaddafi and others .. And who will help the people to demolish the dictators is the second question. If Gaddafi was demolished by Russia or Kazakhstan, I would not mind. Or South Africa, or China, or Honduras.

                      Who the United States presses on, only dictatorships that do not recognize their peoples' right to free elections. After all, the United States did not attack Nigeria or Norway. Is there also oil reserves there? But, in Norway there is no dictatorship that would oppress the Norwegians. In Nigeria, democracy is worse, but even there, the president does not crush his people with tanks. And if US oil were really needed then they would have seized Venezuela long ago and pumped oil from there for free. But they do not attack for some reason, but buy from Venezuela 50% of their oil demand. Although Hugo Chavez is not a gift for the United States, he is elected in free and fair elections and does not shoot his people.
                      1. +4
                        27 February 2013 18: 40
                        As for not attacked Venezuela - yet. As for all of the above - everywhere there isn’t enough strength, the most vulnerable are selected. As for the dictators - the UAE, Qatar ...
                        Quote: Beck
                        ... I am against the bloody dictators of modern times such as ... Gaddafi ...

                        Tell this to the people of modern Libya, and I think your opinion will sink.
                        Quote: Beck
                        the right of their peoples to free elections

                        Are you sure that elections are the best of all systems? I now know my wife, mother-in-law and Vasya’s neighbor, I can talk about their strengths and weaknesses and say which of them will be the best leader and who will not. But I can’t say anything about the uncle from the neighboring entrance, whom I see every day leaving the house, I can’t say anything about Navalny, who is often shown on TV, what kind of leader he is ... you know, right? What, nafig, elections. I agree that we need a mechanism of public control so that it is possible to remove the presumptuous ones, but I wouldn’t really want to choose a leader, since until he is elected, we know about him only from his words, and he can only work after the elections ... how something like that. Well, if he is a good foreman, it’s not the fact that he will be a good director of the plant, and I don’t say anything about the amateur circle (another area). By the way, why at least the General Designer is not chosen by the whole team? In the same states they don’t choose ... think.
                      2. Beck
                        -1
                        27 February 2013 20: 38
                        Quote: El13
                        Are you sure that elections are the best of all systems?


                        It may well be not the best, but humanity has not yet invented anything better than elections. Therefore, the era of kings, kings, khans, padishahs ended and the vast majority of countries came to the polls.

                        Of course, we know candidates only by their speeches. But for the election, if it turns out to be bad, then in the next election it won’t be chosen. But this does not work with dictators. They sit in their places until the end and often to stay and then shoot at their people demanding elections.

                        And about Venezuela. Amer can know how to count bastards, but the capitalists. So why should they seize Iraq for oil and carry oil across half the globe. First of all, they were supposed to capture, according to your logic, Venezuela. She is at hand, transportation costs ten times less.

                        Quote: El13
                        By the way, why at least the General Designer is not chosen by the whole team?


                        Moreover, the staffing of business entities of administrative subordination is here.

                        Quote: El13
                        Tell it to the people of modern Libya


                        Of course there are difficulties after the civil war. Are restored. And of course there are people who want the return of Gaddafi, these are those who held high posts under him. And of course there are neo-Nazis in Germany dreaming of the return of Hitler. And there are even Russian neo-Nazis with a symbiosis of a cross and a swastika on their shoulders. So, according to your logic, do you think that the whole Russian people want fascism?
                      3. 0
                        28 February 2013 14: 04
                        Quote: Beck
                        the vast majority of countries came to the polls

                        I would say ... they brought (see Libya).
                        Quote: Beck
                        First of all, they were supposed to capture, according to your logic, Venezuela. She is at hand, transportation costs ten times less.

                        In addition to transportation costs, there are a host of other factors, including image ones, they can count, for this reason, as soon as they consider that they can deliver a leading strike in Russia without a corresponding retaliatory, they will do it, today I am 100% sure. Do not tell me about their philanthropy.
                        Quote: Beck
                        Moreover, the staffing of business entities of administrative subordination is here.

                        The state is the same business entity, only more ... sensitive.
                        about Libya:
                        Quote: Beck
                        Of course there are difficulties after the civil war. Are restored.

                        Yeah, there are a lot of such recovering countries ... PLUS to you, my term was born ... there are developed countries, there are developing, but there are RESTORING !!! wassat
                        Sorry, but you know how to think, but I do not believe that you can think like you are so mistaken as you are, therefore I consider you an agent, although I will sometimes oppose, excuse me, and the flag will show off, either Kazakh or state ... make up your mind laughing
                      4. Beck
                        -1
                        28 February 2013 16: 05
                        Quote: El13
                        I would say ... they brought (see Libya).


                        Actually, democracy was invented in Ancient Greece. And from there it spread throughout the world, improving over the centuries. But the question is, who brought democracy to Greece, is it really Amer?

                        Quote: El13
                        as soon as they consider that they can deliver a leading attack on Russia without a corresponding retaliatory strike, they will do it, today I am 100% sure. Do not tell me about their philanthropy.


                        They had no desire to fight, unless they had thrown the presumptuous dictator from the throne. After WWI, the US Congress passed the law that the US Armed Forces cannot be used abroad. Therefore, Roosevelt could not enter the war on the side of the anti-Hitler coalition. This is Hitler, after Pearl Harbor declared war on the United States, and this is what Roosevelt untied his hands. If the USA wanted to attack the USSR without a retaliatory nuclear strike, then it did this in the interval between 1 and 1945, when we did not have nuclear weapons. But they did not attack the bastards.

                        Great respect for having established that I can think.

                        But I don’t pull on the agent. By age, by worldview, by place of residence, by nationality, and much more why. And in general, according to this logic, everything around will be agents who have a different opinion.
                      5. +1
                        28 February 2013 16: 10
                        Quote: Beck
                        Actually, democracy was invented in ancient Greece

                        Well, actually, initially Demos (Greek demos - people), in the broad sense of the word D. - is a free population of ancient Greek city-states that had civil rights (unlike slaves, meteks, perieks and other categories of dependent and incomplete population) .
                        That is, a rich and noble population, with the right to have slaves. Therefore, democracy is the power of slaveholders. What is happening now. No one is deceiving anyone. Just a substitution of concepts hi
                      6. Beck
                        0
                        28 February 2013 16: 43
                        Quote: Aventurinka
                        Well, actually, initially Demos (Greek demos - people), in the broad sense of the word D. - is a free population of ancient Greek city-states that had civil rights (unlike slaves, meteks, perieks and other categories of dependent and incomplete population) . That is, a rich and noble population, with the right to have slaves. Therefore, democracy is the power of slaveholders. What is happening now. No one is deceiving anyone. Just a substitution of concepts


                        You inattentively read my koment. I specifically made a reservation - And from there it spread throughout the world, improving over the centuries.. And basically I meant elections and election. That you are a substitute for my essence.
                      7. +2
                        7 October 2013 14: 44
                        Quote: Beck
                        Actually, democracy was invented in Ancient Greece.

                        And also the post of tyrant. And ancient Rome - a dictator. And they appointed extraordinary personalities to these positions, capable of decisive actions in difficult times to rectify the situation, which became such by the will of democratically published senates and areopags. Well, the fact that they did not always want to leave these posts themselves was not news. The United States also sees itself very well in this role.

                        Now about Yankophilia. On the day of the beginning of the first Iraqi war in Kiev among the "intelligentsia" (from the word "cart") there was simply euphoria about the "punishment of the bloody dictator", despite the fact that many of them (recall the origin of the term) could not even utter the name of this dictator ... After the start of the second campaign, the same "cabbies" were just as fervently bawling about not only weapons of mass destruction, but also mythical air defense systems, allegedly made in Ukraine and on Belarusian bases "with broken numbers" delivered to Iraq. And nothing could dispel this delirium. Does such obstinacy remind you of anyone? But I have some kind of strange deja vu ...
                      8. 0
                        April 4 2013 14: 05
                        What evidence is there for the oppression of the people? Those that are fabricated? When bin Laden was executed, the population was split in two. The planes in the towers are also strange, isn't it Bush's political game? By the way, you can also get hold of weapons. Answer the question who is the leader in this market? Yes, the economic system of the USSR was not the best. But CHINA has carried out reforms and is capturing the world with cheap consumer goods, and the Chinese workers will happily overfulfill this plan, because we eat these falsifications and are glad that it is cheap. We must fight not against the "dictators" who were probably put on the posts of the USSR and the United States and now they are carefully removing the cards, but against the economic mafia. And in general, the article about the Moon is a global property. And if there is an opportunity to master it, then I am burning with a very strong desire to reward shareholders who want to appropriate what belongs to all of humanity, regardless of race and gender, social status and living conditions.
                        ps I am against war, I am for world peace No matter how sweet it sounds
                  2. +2
                    7 October 2013 14: 21
                    Quote: Beck
                    dictatorship is bad.

                    Absolutely. And the dictatorship of the state, too. Even so beloved by you as the United States.
              3. +2
                7 October 2013 14: 07
                Quote: Beck
                If you better live with dictators, then go to

                What amazes me is the ease with which all sorts of advocates of "universal human values" send citizens of their country to live wherever they want. Without asking people, do they want to go somewhere? By the same logic, I can suggest that you go to hell, but not go to other countries with advice, threats, or weapons. England once also believed that it could tell the whole world what to do and where to whom to go. Now she carries out the orders. From the former colony.
      4. 0
        26 February 2013 05: 05
        "Capricorn-1" Hollywood itself in America's pocket and put it. And its writers used the OTS service, which has a branch in Los Angeles.
        It surprises me that it surprises you.
    3. Gimaev Bulat
      0
      25 February 2013 21: 14
      yes) and for starters, it would not hurt to stabilize the situation on Earth) Well, or to give the whole country a wave to the moon, but this is possible, it is not for nothing that our ancestors laid down their lives.
      1. 0
        25 February 2013 21: 37
        The people will travel on a rotational basis as easily as before to the north.
        Through doctors, prescribe not to stay longer than a month, so as not to profit smile
    4. +4
      25 February 2013 22: 21
      While the practical application of Helium-3 as fuel is not possible ....
      Mankind is not yet able to ignite a controlled thermonuclear reaction ...
      So THIS is all idle talk ....
      And with the Moon, everything is not so CLEAR ..... Perfectly round body, in a circular orbit and the period of revolution around the planet to millionths of a percent is equal to the speed of rotation of the satellite ....
      In the whole system, this is not observed anywhere else ...

      Then the Americans tried to fly there, but failed (they made Hollywood films and limited themselves to this)))
      Even the blueprints of their rocket are lost somewhere and fly into space on Soviet engines ....
      Everything is strange IT .... although we could get technology there ....
      We are watching a film - a hypothesis ....
      Then I’ll tell you such a strangeness .... The ocean floor is different from the Earth’s crust - there is only a basalt shell and there are no granites at all, according to one version - it was from the granites of the seabed that the Moon was created ....
      If we get there, then TECHNOLOGIES are of interest ,,,,
      1. +1
        26 February 2013 14: 31
        I will put "+" for the first part, I don’t get involved in the second part, but from one source I liked the definition that the Moon is a "SHIELD" from what and by whom I did not fully understand, but the idea is interesting, it also said that the planets are living things, in the same way as we are formed from separate cells with our own life, only the components are not necessarily organic.
        1. 0
          1 March 2013 07: 41
          Well, that’s shale gas, now helium 3 on the moon, what's the big solar battery in the sun ?! Another nonsense and a field of fiction request
    5. +1
      April 1 2013 14: 49
      Whoever masters it will lose the land forever. There is one country that will burst in half but not let others do it.
  2. +11
    25 February 2013 08: 54
    They dirtied the home planet, now let's dirt the satellite. What's next in turn? Mars?
    1. +1
      26 February 2013 10: 01
      Not properly!!!!! According to one hypothesis, we first dirtied Mars, then moved to Earth ... Next will be Venus ... Until we get to the Sun ....
      laughing
      1. 0
        26 February 2013 12: 00
        Most importantly, if you successfully deliver everything that is offered, it will be necessary to select the next planet instead of earth Very Urgently.
        Well, if you subtract the component of militarization from industry, then the Earth will be ecologically clean for a very long time, accommodating with maximum comfort, if without frills, traditionally, without high-rise buildings and on the surface, then up to 50 of a billion people.
  3. SPIRITofFREEDOM
    +18
    25 February 2013 09: 31
    Ohhhhhh))))
    Run Planets Run from our sunny planet!
    Slogan!!!!!!

    DO YOU HAVE NATURAL RESOURCES ???
    Then we go to you wassat (earthlings)
  4. Alikovo
    +5
    25 February 2013 09: 41
    Helium-3 is a by-product of reactions taking place on the Sun. [source not specified 616 days] On Earth, it is produced in radiochemical plants in quantities estimated in thousands of liters per year: for example, the industrial production of helium-3 in the USA amounted to about 8 thousand liters per 2010 year at a cost of about 2150 dollars per liter.

    Another thing is the moon, which has no atmosphere. As a result, of this valuable substance there is up to 10 million tons (according to minimal estimates - 500 thousand tons [5]). In fusion, when an 1 ton of helium-3 reacts with 0,67 tons of deuterium, an energy equivalent to the combustion of 15 million tons of oil [6] is released (however, the technical feasibility of this reaction has not yet been studied). Consequently, the population of our planet's lunar resource helium-3 should be enough for at least the next millennium. The main problem remains the reality of helium mining from lunar regolith. As mentioned above, the content of helium-3 in the regolith is ~ 1 g per 100 t. Therefore, at least 100 million tons of soil should be processed to extract a ton of this isotope.
    1. +2
      25 February 2013 12: 42
      copy paste 80 lvl =)
  5. +1
    25 February 2013 09: 44
    In vain, the lunar program was abandoned by everyone, they would have achieved tangible results a long time ago, but instead, money has been buoyed (and we continue to do so) as a means of mutual murder.
  6. +1
    25 February 2013 10: 08
    Yeah they are waiting for us there ... It's easier to "boil down" the batteries, get the buckets ready and go !!!
  7. Octavian avgust
    +1
    25 February 2013 10: 11
    I think it's fantastic! Everything on the planet is enough for us, but we need to stop spoiling the biosphere and rationally use resources for the benefit of all mankind! If the Chinese will also live like Americans, then the biosphere will come to an end, we will spend all our resources in 50-70 years! fool
    1. LOMiK
      +1
      25 February 2013 19: 30
      Sogdasen, there is enough of everything on earth, let's stop spoiling on it and we will not need flights to the moon! On earth, wonderful nature, life, seas and oceans! And we are all chasing the shadow ... I am not against progress, the main harmony, I do not want to live on the moon and get helium, I want to live on the earth and go to the forest, go to the cottage, Altai, swim in the sea ...
      1. Beck
        0
        26 February 2013 11: 27
        Quote: LOMiK
        . I am not against progress, the main harmony, I do not want to live on the moon and get helium, I want to live on the earth and go to the forest, go to the country, in Altai, swim in the sea.


        Of course, there will be enough Earth for our generation and for 10 = 20 future ones. But sooner or later there will come a need for resettlement to other planets. And here there will be reasons not only for overpopulation, but also human needs to go beyond the horizon all the time. The time will come when a person will master other planets, as when he mastered new continents on Earth.
        1. +2
          7 October 2013 15: 02
          Beck, you hit me. Where do we settle? Not a single planet of the solar system will be suitable for us either now or in the future (we will leave fiction in the style of Asimov for publishers). The need to go beyond the horizon does not lie in the field of manned flights: the solar system is the backwater of the galaxy and the nearest planetary systems lie so far from us that the journey to them is also the destiny of the Hugo Prize winners. So the wealth of extraterrestrial resources is not of any help to us. In any case, for now.
          A breakthrough is possible only on the basis of completely new discoveries in physics and mathematics (as the apparatus of physics), namely: "wormholes", "holes in space-time" and other know-how, so far successfully developed only by science fiction writers. If, however, all this turns out to be a fiction, then we will have to accept: humanity was born on this planet, and on it it will quietly die. As a rare species on an abandoned lonely island in the endless ocean.
          1. Beck
            0
            11 October 2013 14: 39
            Quote: Alex
            Beck, you hit me. Where do we settle? Not a single planet of the solar system will be suitable for us either now or in the future (we will leave fiction in the style of Asimov for publishers)


            And that I said that today we will fly to live on Mars. But ever have to master Mars and Venus. Of course, with today's technologies this is impossible, but with tomorrow it’s completely. And assumptions that do not contradict the theory are completely feasible. Well, at least change the orbits of Mars and Venus and bring these orbits closer to the orbit of the Earth, to the so-called Goldilocks belt.

            Well, the deep-seated cosmos of the human mind in the current protein shell, of course, will not master. Not those scales of Space and Time. But Reason can exist without a protein coat. Fiction, but contrary to the laws of the universe. A mind without a liver, kidneys, muscles can be encoded into a beam of energy, for example, into a bunch of photons moving at the speed of light, and then the dimensions of Space and the timing of Time will be greatly reduced.

            Something like this. The mistake will be that recognizing the development of the Universe in several ways, to leave the development of the Human Mind unchanged. The mind of the 20th century, well, will be very different from the mind of the 30th century.
  8. anchonsha
    0
    25 February 2013 10: 38
    Oh hard will be the way to the moon and very costly. Moreover, many countries aimed to solve the problem of lunar occupation. And it would be easier to coordinate their means and the forces of a number of countries for these purposes. But this is not obvious in the current aggressive US policy. And friction among the earthly pioneers of the lunar occupation can not do, as well as the ongoing debate about deposits in the bowels of the Arctic. After all, some of the citizens of the United States seem to have staked out their land on the moon.
    1. Beck
      +1
      26 February 2013 12: 17
      Quote: anchonsha
      Oh hard will be the way to the moon and very costly.


      Ms. do not dance around the barrels of the current state of affairs. A really intense exploration of the moon will begin in 25-50 years, and then there will be a different state of affairs. Both in Science and in Economics.
  9. dsf34rwesdgg
    0
    25 February 2013 10: 48
    Imagine, it turns out that our authorities have complete information about each of us. And now she appeared on the Internet choch.rf / 8ets Very surprised and scared, my correspondence, addresses, phone numbers, even found my naked photo, I can not even imagine where. The good news is that the data can be deleted from the site, of course, I used it and I advise everyone not to hesitate
  10. +5
    25 February 2013 11: 24
    "Today, nuclear power plants are the only alternative, but it is not so safe because of the radiation." laughed a cool description of the problems of nuclear power plants and it turns out with a thermonuclear reaction involving 3 helium, no radiation is emitted))).
    And also "the fact is that now on Earth there is no technology - and in the next at least 50 years its appearance is not expected - the burning of helium-3 in a thermonuclear reaction. There is not even a conceptual design of such a reactor. The international thermonuclear reactor ITER, currently under construction in France, is designed to "burn" hydrogen isotopes - deuterium and tritium. The design temperature of the "ignition" of a thermonuclear reaction is 100-200 million degrees. To use helium-3, the temperature must be an order of magnitude or two higher. "-Http: //www.ng.ru/science/2005-09-28/13_idea.html
  11. -2
    25 February 2013 11: 48
    Amstrong did not tell everything even to his "chefs" ...
    Because received specific warnings from those whom he saw there that if he blabbed out, then all his relatives would answer for the "bazaar" up to the seventh generation. recourse
    1. +2
      7 October 2013 15: 08
      Amstrong did not tell everything even to his "chefs" ...
      Because received specific warnings from those whom he saw there that if he blabbed out, then all his relatives would answer for the "bazaar" up to the seventh generation.

      Send me some of the grass that you smoked before wassat
      Or tell you in what dream Armstrong personally told you that the "chiefs" did not risk it.
      Not even funny ...
    2. +3
      8 August 2014 15: 03
      Quote: Tartary
      Amstrong did not tell everything even to his "chefs" ...
      Because received specific warnings from those whom he saw there that if he blabbed out, then all his relatives would answer for the "bazaar" up to the seventh generation.
      Don’t share a link to the information? REV-TV does not offer.
  12. MG42
    +2
    25 February 2013 12: 53
    Mankind is now more occupied with the prospect of exploring Mars, and there are even plans to study the Jovian satellite of Europe covered by the ocean, but much closer is that nobody is in a hurry to develop our only Earth satellite, why there are curious ren-tv videos on this subject but is it worth it to believe?
    1. +1
      25 February 2013 13: 32
      ...what is it for ...

      Can understand this humanity. Why bother with some kind of moon there. To which only 380 thousand km. Whether business master Mars or Jupiter. That's where you can raise the loot. To organize there a search for helium-3, or simply water, for starters. One logistics and supply of such searches opens up - for this of humanity - truly cosmic perspectives. What financial schemes can be rotated (ay, Tolyan). Or building plots on the moons of Jupiter - this is the estate of old Baturin. And you say the moon. )))
    2. biglow
      +1
      25 February 2013 16: 34
      MG42,
      one of the problems of the moon is radiation. The proximity of the sun is a factor with which it is difficult to do something. In this regard, Mars is more promising, since there the radiation level is much lower. Those who believe that the Americans were not on the moon, and indicate the fact that they landed on the moon during the period of maximum activity of the sun, when the radiation level was very high. And under those conditions, a person can stay for no more than 45 minutes, and the astronauts spent a lot of time there and there are no signs of radiation.
    3. +2
      7 October 2013 15: 15
      All these "projects" are worth one thing: the paper on which they are written. And the toilet. We pay an incredible price for the launch of each extra ton of payload into the MIDDLE space, we practically cannot return anything more than the shuttle's cargo compartment to Earth, but we puff our cheeks and like ourselves, posing in front of television cameras, speaking with such delusional proposals. All this stems from one simple problem: we cannot formulate an intelligible maximum program (with the minimum program, everything is in perfect order) for the development of cosmonautics in the future. Will this answer suit you?
  13. +1
    25 February 2013 13: 01
    Oil kings will not allow. They will lay down with bones, but will not allow to master the moon
    1. +1
      25 February 2013 13: 59
      They will not lie down, but they will buy and become moon kings.
  14. +1
    25 February 2013 13: 23
    Yes! As I understand it, everything NASA put on the rails! For every investment, a dollar needs to be profitable. not for nothing that they hide all the most important information from their research programs, and they give out to the public any shusher. Even if their rover falls into the ocean teeming with living beings, they will tell you that there are only stones and that's it !!! Because this information is very promising financially and politically! And they all wanted to spit on the fact that it was the greatest discovery until you pay))
  15. Petrospek
    +1
    25 February 2013 14: 35
    Why not??
    And there, you look, we will rename the Moon to New Vasyuki, and aliens will stretch to the first intergalactic chess tournament!
  16. DeamonFIre
    0
    25 February 2013 14: 54
    As for me, it will be almost impossible to separate the Moon by individual countries ... it would be more realistic to create a single company or even two (Russia-China and NATO) for competition.
  17. +1
    25 February 2013 15: 02
    If humanity did not spend so much energy and resources on self-destruction, how far would we have advanced !!!! It is easier to bleed the "neighbor" and take away his wife and his donkey, than solving the problem of controlled fusion.
    1. +2
      25 February 2013 15: 19
      Unfortunately, or perhaps fortunately, military technology has a downside, it is general scientific progress. And there he goes by leaps and bounds. If we take a tank of the 40s (conditionally) and an excavator of the same period and compare it with modern corresponding models, we will see that the excavator lagged behind the tank by 30-40 years. Hydraulic outriggers were on our "Katyushas" in the Second World War, and on domestic truck cranes appeared only in the second half of the 80s. We're running in the wrong direction.
  18. ko88
    0
    25 February 2013 15: 02
    Good perspective))))
  19. +1
    25 February 2013 16: 08
    smile
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    1. +1
      26 February 2013 21: 26
      smile I was glad. The trash, of course, is still the same, but the fairy tale is a lie ... Only people driven by an IDEA are capable of something global (earlier, as far as I remember smile , this was called "accomplishments"). And without it, mankind is enough only for hamburgers.
  20. +2
    25 February 2013 16: 14
    utopia so far all this laughing
    1. +1
      26 February 2013 03: 42
      dvs73
      utopia so far all this
      That's it, colleague! fellow Similar picture: Columbus sets off across the ocean in search of uranium laughing laughing wassat In my opinion - just as relevant! bully
  21. 0
    25 February 2013 17: 08
    helium was gamma back in the distant era of the Gamnozoic,
    when the administrators were still double-byte
    (not only specifically here, but throughout the world) bully
  22. biglow
    +1
    25 February 2013 17: 18
    Meanwhile, on Mars, the American rover Curiosity captured the skeleton of an unknown animal on the Red Planet. In structure, it resembles the bones of a lizard. [media =
    ttp://www.youtube.com/embed/79_9O-rx27M"%20frameborder="0"%20allo
    wfullscreen> ]
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=79_9O-rx27M
    source http://www.dni.ru/tech/2013/2/25/248792.html?google_editors_picks=true
    1. Mrgangster
      0
      25 February 2013 18: 38
      it is possible that earthly life follows in the footsteps of Mars
  23. 0
    25 February 2013 17: 36
    Even in the title photo, the Earth is so huge, as if it weren’t 380 thousand km away, and if it’s 20 times smaller. from any planet. belay
    It seems that Helium-3 will become a treasure only after the construction of the thermonuclear reactor itself. In the meantime, we don’t have it, and it’s hard to believe that the fuel for it will have to be transported from the Moon. Rather, it’s an affordable fuel for human development other planets.
  24. busido4561
    0
    25 February 2013 17: 36
    Cognitive information.
  25. +1
    25 February 2013 18: 01
    The pictures with American flags, which the author added to his article, were distorted.
    And about the lunar prospects and helium 3, these developments will be completely unstable until the flights become cheaper.
  26. +4
    25 February 2013 19: 24
    In short, the article fits into one saying "a chicken in a nest, an egg in a pi ..., and we are already dividing the eggs"
  27. +3
    25 February 2013 19: 59
    Two planets are talking.
    - How are you?
    - Yes, fine, I'm flying. And you?
    - And I got people. They dig, drill, blow up all the time ... Everything itches, it’s no strength to endure more!
    “Don’t worry how you get started and pass.” I have passed.
  28. Horde
    +1
    25 February 2013 20: 48
    article is good, sci-fi! We already noted in the discussion that HELIUM 3, which is fashionable in journalistic circles, is almost the same as the MOST ECOLOGICALLY PURE HYDROGEN fuel. Here you just have to CONSIDER how to tilt the energy balance of decomposing water into components towards suitable for practical use. scientists didn’t think up anything. To get hydrogen from water, you need to spend MORE energy than the result of the reaction.
    There’s also a similar case. And there’s fuel, and even very close at hand, on the Moon, and even Americans were already riding limousines on the moon, take it and use it in short, but the snag CONTROLLED NUCLEAR SYNTHESIS is not open yet it’s such an unattainable dream, like hydrogen from water.
    Well, they’ll soon find something in space, or maybe CERN will spit it out, say ANTI-MATTER because Dan Brown has already shown mankind the right way to disperse material particles and collide with each other at CRITICAL energies and corresponding firing trajectories — we get ANTI-PROTONS, beauty and the issue of energy shortage solved for humanity.
    1. +4
      26 February 2013 04: 50
      A bucket of water contains 100 g of vodka. You can hangover after the 23rd of February.
      Cows do that. People do not succeed - do not interfere.
      In a construction sand dump truck - a few grams of gold, but no one wants to wash it on Earth. Here on the moon, helium shovel is another matter
      Not hydrogen, but deuterium. In two glasses of water of energy, as in 200 liters. a barrel of gasoline. There is a lot of water in the ocean. Deuterium is greater than helium on the moon. Just do not be lazy to get it.
      The issue is financing. Space is a magic word. Roscosmos is sometimes abusive, but still powerful, because the Shoigu department looms behind it, and in the USA the Pentagon.
      And CERN is not trying to antiprotons, but trying to catch black holes.
      But the military commissar is always enough if you do not steal.
      1. Horde
        -1
        26 February 2013 20: 22
        shurup,
        Not hydrogen, but deuterium


        clever, nothing to say, but what is hydrogen that doesn’t suit the role of fuel in your opinion?
        And CERN is not trying to antiprotons, but trying to catch black holes.


        from the point of view of using a black hole as a source, this is again for science fiction writers, while a PURE THEORETICAL object a black hole is something that absorbs both matter and energy, so no one knows how to adapt such a thing to an energy source. Well, I was talking about "Angels and demons "Dan Brown, there, just CERN developed antimatter and even managed to find a way to store antimatter in matter.
        1. 0
          26 February 2013 21: 34
          A black hole, as it is not strange, and radiates a robustness. And Dan Brown is better not to read at night smile .
  29. +2
    26 February 2013 13: 09
    So far, Russia has patented a space elevator in the fall, which was described by Clark, and about which Clark was told by Artsutanov, and Tsiolkovsky and Zander started at the beginning of the last century.
  30. xpen_vam
    +1
    26 February 2013 22: 09
    What is all this enticement. Goldman Sachs is a big American bubble blower)) It will not matter here whether they will mine mythical helium on the Moon or not. Divorce is different. The main thing in this paid PR is the trading of rights on the exchange for the future helium. All. There is no other there, just the idea of ​​inflating a new exchange bubble called Helium-3 and cutting a dumb money on this matter. This is the same as mining on asteroids. This is the same as the dot com bubble at the beginning of two thousandths. This is the same as the real estate bubble burst in 2008.

    Dear editors, printing such advertisements of new stock exchange bubbles takes people away from the resource, think about it.
  31. CocaCola
    0
    28 September 2013 06: 48
    All the same, the problem of the exploration of the moon is not a problem of one state, but of mankind. It is time to abandon countries. The division into countries appeared even when the world was considered flat, flying on elephants and a turtle. Since then, a lot has changed. Our home is Earth, the colonization of other planets is our future.
  32. +2
    7 October 2013 15: 29
    Article "-", and here's why. If this is fantasy, then the plot is not to hell and the study of the material at the level of a children's essay on a free theme. If this is a scientific development, then where are the calculations, calculations, opinions of serious scientists, etc.? If this is billiards, then this is its red price, and even in abundance. It is simply beneath the dignity of a reasonable person to discuss such crafts.
  33. +1
    April 24 2017 14: 58
    In the first lines of the letter, I want you to ... I somehow it all sounds strange. There would be no catch. Uncle will send the mattresses for reconnaissance. We laugh in a handkerchief - is uncle spending money?

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