Unusual pistols with a gas release mechanism

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Unusual pistols with a gas release mechanism
BSW pistol and magazine for it. At first glance, there is nothing special about him. Is that the notch on the shutter casing is made in its front part, and not in the back. And who would have thought that this pistol would compete with the Walter P38 pistol


How wonderful it is -
a man who desires strange things!

A. and B. Strugatsky “Attempt to escape”

stories about weapons. Is it good or bad to “want the strange”? Well, it depends from which side you look at it. But if an engineer designing a new weapon wants something strange, how does that work? You can do something more familiar, improve what was previously done... But no! He does what no one has done before. And sometimes luck follows.



But it happens that the too strange developments of such designers simply frighten ordinary people, and therefore they remain only in the memory of historians. Today our story will be about several such designs of pistols of the last century.

Well, we’ll start with the pistol, which became the first “pistol” development of such a famous designer as John Moses Browning. It was developed in 1894–1895, and at the same time received a patent for it, and it turned out to be Browning's first patent, among all the other patents received for his pistols.

Surprisingly, having decided to work on pistols, John Browning for some reason did not start with the simplest thing - a blowback system, but for some reason he turned to a much more complex design with a gas venting mechanism that works by removing part of the powder gases from the barrel.

However, this is not entirely true, since Browning simultaneously began working on four models of pistols. One was with a blowback bolt, in two the automatics were operated by the recoil force of the barrel, but one of these four pistols had an original gas release mechanism. It’s just that for some reason he was the very first in this “line”, and so, of course, we don’t know what thoughts and which of these systems came to Browning’s head first.

Be that as it may, on April 20, 1897, Browning received four patents at once, and just one for the pistol we were interested in, and very soon he embodied all four in metal.

And his “gas gun” really turned out to be very original and strange.

To begin with, its gas chamber was located above the barrel, although in the already existing Colt-Browning machine gun (the famous “potato digger”) it was located below.

Coming out through this hole after the shot, the gases pressed on the lever connected by an axis to the bolt and, tilting upward, this lever pushed the bolt back. At the same time, the spent cartridge case was removed from the chamber, and a new cartridge was supplied to the dispensing line from the magazine. The spring pressure returned the bolt, the cartridge was chambered, and the lever returned to its previous horizontal position, locking the entire system.

The pistol fired relatively powerful .38ACP cartridges (9x23 mm), so having the barrel locked during firing could be considered a justified decision. The length of the pistol was 216 mm, weight 964 g.


Diagram of a Browning pistol with a gas release mechanism from an 1897 patent.

Already on July 3, 1895, this pistol (like three other samples) was shown to Colt employees, and they were so impressed that they immediately declared that they would buy all Browning’s patents, and... a year later they actually bought all four. But only three samples went into production.

The gas pistol remained out of use. For all its convenience and originality, no one really liked it. It is possible that the lever, rising above the barrel and covering the target, seemed to the company inconvenient for users, so it did not produce such pistols. So today there is only one Browning pistol of this system in the world, and it is located in the John M. Browning Firearms Museum in Ogden, Utah.

Time passed, and the German engineers of the Berlin-Suhler Waffen- und Fahrzeugwerke company began thinking about using a gas outlet in a pistol, and they were puzzled by this before participating in an army competition, which would ultimately be won not by their pistol, but by the famous “Walter” P38.

It is interesting that pistols were not at all the specialty of this company, although it produced weapons - hunting rifles, rifles and even rifles. But, as they say, apparently they decided to take a risk and came up with a pistol with gas removal from the barrel. Moreover, unlike the Browning pistol, where the gas outlet was used to remove the bolt from the barrel, in this pistol it is used only to unlock it. That's all!

But, in general, the pistol turned out to be original even without this. It had a frame milled from duralumin, a shutter made partly by stamping and a “bottle” shaped (if you look at it from above) magazine with 13 cartridges rearranged from two rows into one, although there was also a simpler 8-round version.

The barrel of this pistol was fixedly fixed in the frame, and the return spring wrapped around it and worked in tension, not compression. But since the pistol used a 9x19 cartridge, to ensure reliable locking of the bolt at the moment of firing, it was necessary to somehow block the bolt.

And the BSW designers took an unusual path: in its forward position, the bolt was blocked by the hook of a long lever that ran under the barrel along its entire length. As soon as the bullet reached the muzzle, there, almost at the very end of the barrel, a rectangular gas outlet opened, and the push of the powder gases threw this lever down, which allowed the bolt to roll back freely and eject the spent cartridge case from the chamber. That is, here everything happened exactly the same as in blowback pistols.


BSW pistol

The front part of the lever had a bevel, which played the role of a gas piston, and it also served, according to the patent formula, as a bolt recoil accelerator. That is, again, the design was similar to John Browning’s “potato digger” - the M1895 machine gun - although the difference was significant: in Browning the lever throws the bolt back, but in this pistol it only locks it, nothing more. The trigger mechanism of the pistol had a hidden trigger and allowed self-cocking firing.

The bolt had a safety lock that locked the firing pin, but the designers installed it only because of competition requirements. In fact, he wasn't needed. The trigger stroke was long and hard, shooting was carried out only by self-cocking, so an accidental shot from such a pistol simply could not happen.

The disadvantage of this design is obvious: the locking system is such that it blocks the movement of the bolt when manually chambering the cartridge. That is, in any case, the shutter must be unlocked manually. And this can be done by grasping the two protrusions in the front part of the lever, by which it should be pulled down a little, and only then, holding the corrugated part of the bolt casing, pull it back. That is why the corrugation on it was in the front and not in the back. And it was precisely here that it was necessary to take hold of it, and in such a way as to simultaneously press the locking lever with two fingers, and only after that move the bolt casing back.

Anyone unfamiliar with this pistol design simply couldn’t shoot it! But even ordinary soldiers and officers were unfamiliar with such manipulations. The shutter stop was a second lever in front of the trigger guard. By pressing it, the bolt could be pulled back completely, and then moved forward by lowering the locking lever.


BSW pistol with the bolt pulled back. The lever of the gas release mechanism is clearly visible, closing the outlet hole in the barrel for gases

The pistol did not win the competition.

Its disadvantages were such as the complexity of the design, high cost and another important circumstance for those years.

The requirements for the competition specified the possibility of firing through the embrasures of combat vehicles. But this pistol could not physically shoot like that: the lower part of the barrel always rests against the edge of the embrasure, which in this case would lead to blocking the locking lever. And it was also impossible to shoot through the embrasure while holding the pistol suspended due to its overall dimensions.

So, although the pistol was made in several versions and was even tested by shooting, it ultimately turned out to be unviable.

As a result, the BSW pistol certainly has its place in storiesdefinitely deserved it. But only in the category of weapons curiosities, but not military weapons.
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  1. + 15
    20 July 2024 05: 08
    On returning from your sabbatical leave, I congratulate you, Vyacheslav Olegovich and the readers.
    The barrel of this pistol was fixedly fixed in the frame, and the return spring wrapped around it and worked in tension, not compression.

    This is where you made a mistake - the spring worked in compression.
    Compression springs are parts that take on a longitudinal-axial load and compress under its action. When the load is removed, the spring returns to its original state.

    In the first and second photographs you can see a spring and it is clear that it works in compression. The third photo shows the mechanism of the pistol in more detail.
    1. +9
      20 July 2024 06: 24
      Thank you for the kind words. I didn't have this photo, too bad. Usta, today THREE articles came out at once. Read in "history" and "opinions".
  2. +8
    20 July 2024 05: 38
    Good morning, Vyacheslav! smile
    Thanks for the new and interesting article. good
    I once read somewhere about the BSW pistol, but only from you did I learn that it competed with the P.38.
    It’s somehow even funny, next to “Walter” he looks like just some kind of handicraft.
  3. +7
    20 July 2024 05: 42
    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert_Eagle
    The Desert Eagle is a gas-operated pistol. It's a big, heavy piece of crap, not for pocket carry, but it's popular among black gangsters - both real drug dealers and rappers who pretend to be them. If the pistol isn't intended to shoot, or at least not to shoot accurately, but to make an impression, then it's perfect for that role. It looks expensive and rich, and the caliber is huge, 12,7 mm. So the demand is small, but stable. Professionals shoot accurately with this one, but you have to train specially. One cartridge costs about $2.
    1. +6
      20 July 2024 06: 25
      Quote: Nagan
      Desert Eagle

      Thanks for the addition. But this is a separate topic. I didn't start it.
      1. +7
        20 July 2024 14: 14
        There was another funny development, although it didn’t go into production, it was still interesting in itself.
        Oznobishchev pistol, designed in the USSR in 1925 - 1926. The gas exhaust mechanism in it, apparently, was created under the influence of the Browning system, known in Russia thanks to the Colt M1895 machine gun. The gas piston in Oznobishchev's pistol swings in the plane of the barrel similarly to the 1897 Browning pistol, with the only difference being that in Oznobishchev's pistol the piston is located under the barrel, like the Colt M1895 machine gun. The original design of the swinging bolt with the possibility of cocking it with the finger of the shooting hand complemented a very complex design, originally designed for 7.62mm cartridges from a Nagant revolver, and later converted to the relatively weak 7.65x17mm Browning cartridges
        1. +5
          20 July 2024 15: 29
          [quote=Sea Cat] There was another funny development, although it didn’t go into production, it was still interesting in itself.
          [quote] Oznobishchev pistol, designed in the USSR in 1925 - 1926.
          So you, Konstantin, pleasantly surprised me!
          1. +4
            20 July 2024 15: 44
            Yes, I was surprised myself when I came across it. smile
    2. +6
      20 July 2024 12: 57
      Desert Eagle Mark XIX pistol in .50AE caliber
      and its predecessor, the original Eagle 357 pistol, 1982 from Magnum Research USA.
    3. +2
      20 July 2024 20: 34
      DE is a pistol for hunting (popular in the states) and recreational shooting. It was never intended for other purposes. “Popularity with the guys” is a Hollywood myth, only because of the size (the caliber was initially only 357magnum). And among the brothers, contrary to the same Hollywood, there are very few idiots. Idiots don't live long - competition, you know.
      1. +5
        20 July 2024 20: 38
        It is precisely the black thugs and the rappers who imitate them who have a life expectancy that is much lower than the national average. In particular, due to the increased risk of overdosing on the dope they sell, as well as lead poisoning of vital organs.
        1. 0
          20 July 2024 20: 45
          Distinguish between “less than in the country” and “significantly less among our own”.
      2. +2
        22 July 2024 12: 36
        Desert, as I heard, was generally created for finishing off game during hunting))
    4. 0
      21 July 2024 03: 49
      A large pistol is generally not a good solution when it comes to the only weapon on the body.
      Even if we are talking about weapons chambered for a regular pistol cartridge (9×19).
      No buttstock, small magazine, no autofire.
  4. +7
    20 July 2024 05: 54
    The Wildey Survivor pistol is unusual and interesting.
    1. +8
      20 July 2024 06: 26
      You're right, Marina. It's a pity there is no color photo of him.
      1. + 11
        20 July 2024 06: 58
        It's a pity there is no color photo of him.

        There are a lot of color photos of this pistol. Charles Bronson's favorite pistol in movies and in life.
        1. +4
          20 July 2024 07: 06
          Quote from Frettaskyrandi
          Charles Bronson's favorite movie gun

          Alas for me, wretched one! Due to the fact that I practically don’t watch movies, I don’t know who he is or what “movies” he starred in. Our TV has been “off” for six months now, and even before that... it was not in favor. We wanted to look at it on vacation, but... in our house there was no remote control, and they couldn’t replace it in 2 weeks. I personally see in this the finger of fate, which clearly wanted to say and said - “You don’t need it!” By the way, I won’t write about this pistol. Boris Dzheralievsky wrote an article about him on VO in 2018.
          1. +6
            20 July 2024 07: 36
            By the way, I won’t write about this pistol.

            There is no need to write about this one specifically. And a cycle about large-caliber short-barreled weapons is quite possible. Something like "With a gun on a bear."
            1. +9
              20 July 2024 10: 45
              Something like "With a gun on a bear."
              A review article by S. Linnik on this topic was published several years ago.
              1. +5
                20 July 2024 11: 11
                Okay, I don’t like the bear look, let’s go for something African. I've seen such weirdos. There was even a price list somewhere.
  5. +7
    20 July 2024 09: 07
    Where should we take this “little animal”?
    "Steyr GB is a self-loading pistol, built according to the design of the German engineer Barnitzke, developed at the end of the Second World War in Germany. Steyr GB has a blowback breech with its opening slowed down by powder gases vented through a hole in the barrel"
    1. +5
      20 July 2024 11: 02
      A pistol is like a pistol. Automatic semi-blowback with gas delay. Doesn't happen often. Since the creation of the German Volkssturmgewehr.
    2. +2
      20 July 2024 18: 58
      A normal animal, especially if we consider its modern analogue. There is also the fairly well-known HK P-7 and its variants. Slowing down the shutter by removing powder gases.
      I think I held 13 in my hands, but I didn’t have a chance to shoot. In Chechnya we encountered quite a lot of interesting things. According to reviews from the new owner, so to speak, from some divisions - in good But care is needed, otherwise he starts acting up
      Quote: Zufei
      Where should we take this “little animal”?
      1. +1
        27 July 2024 12: 59
        The gas retarded bolt is Laugo Alien, which is breakthrough in many respects, starting with the short bolt ridge and, most importantly, the low location of the barrel axis.
        The disadvantage of gas retardation is that you need high-quality cartridges made in Europe or America; it won’t be able to shoot any type of porno.
        1. 0
          27 July 2024 13: 04
          Quote: eule
          The disadvantage of gas retardation is that you need high-quality cartridges made in Europe or America; it won’t be able to shoot any type of porno.

          This goes without saying... there was even enough ammunition to shoot, although not a lot. Yes, and the pistol itself is necessary... but it’s not critical, so I never used the PSM in a battle specifically in Chechnya. I just had to finish it off... in civilian life I had to do it once, but it was already difficult - it was a reward.
  6. Owl
    +6
    20 July 2024 10: 30
    “Through thorns,” and only into history. Now. thanks to experience, knowledge and analysis of products, it became clear to everyone that a free bolt is suitable for low-power ammunition (up to 9x18 mm), and a semi-free bolt is suitable for products more massive than a pistol, but it was precisely such technical experiments of the German design school as unlocking the bolt using parts of powder gases gave us this knowledge.
    1. +5
      20 July 2024 11: 22
      Quote: Eagle Owl
      but it was precisely such technical experiments of the German design school as unlocking the bolt using part of the powder gases that gave us this knowledge.

      Exactly!
    2. +1
      20 July 2024 19: 08
      Technically, locking/slowing down the bolt (semi-free) is necessary for a bullet impulse of 2,3 kg*m/s^2, otherwise the bolt mass becomes unacceptable. Therefore, either slowing down or by connecting to a movable barrel (locking) increasing this mass and eliminating early extraction of the cartridge case (which causes its inflation or rupture). Accordingly, for more impulse cartridges, the coupling occurs not with the barrel, but through it or the receiver with the entire mass of the weapon.
      And yet - contrary to popular belief, the spring does not take a special part in locking! It is enough to calculate... it is called a return spring, because it stores energy for returning the bolt, locking and feeding the cartridge, and its energy is calculated precisely for this process. The main impulse is dampened by the shooter's body (hand in the case of pistols, shoulder for PP and rifles) - which is transmitted by the weapon itself, including the pistol when the bolt hits the stop (for PM this is the trigger guard, for example, there may be a buffer spring or various inserts, etc.)
  7. +3
    20 July 2024 12: 59
    It is interesting that pistols were not the specialty of this company.

    Until 1933 the company was called Simson & Co. and produced .25 ACP Westentaschenpistolen and Luger P08
  8. +4
    20 July 2024 14: 12
    There is also a Steyer pistol, it seems... locking was done by turning the barrel and lugs, and unlocking was also done with the barrel, due to the energy of impact and movement of the bullet along the rifling! good This is what crazy hands did! There may be photos on the Internet - I don't know. It was mentioned in one book for forensic experts on the automatic operation of pistols, I don’t remember what it was called (DSP) - maybe it was in the Zhuk - but I don’t remember. Yes, and I got the Zhuk later because of the pistols. It was a long time ago and I haven’t seen much information about it on the Internet.
    Z,Y. It’s clear that it’s on topic, but for the topic wassat hi
    1. +3
      20 July 2024 18: 52
      The well-known Mannlicher M1894. The automatic operation scheme is a forward-moving barrel and a fixed bolt. Photo below.
      1. +1
        22 July 2024 13: 00
        There is also a Schwarzlose 1908 that works on this principle.
        1. +1
          22 July 2024 13: 14
          There is also a Schwarzlose 1908 that works on this principle.

          There is also the Japanese Hino-Komuro. If you try, you can find many original designs that deserve a full article. But there are no such authors on the site today. Shpakovsky is trying, although he is alone in the field...
    2. 0
      22 July 2024 12: 51
      The Zhuk definitely had the same automatic operation scheme, with a movable barrel and a fixed bolt. At number -2. Immediately after the blowback circuit)
  9. +2
    20 July 2024 22: 29
    The translation doesn't allow me to understand how the gun works. Is it a gas weapon (the expanding gases release the bolt and force it to move back) or is it a delay gas weapon (the force of the gas is used to delay the opening of the bolt like the H&K p7 or Steyr GB.)? ?
    1. +2
      21 July 2024 03: 19
      The pistol does not use a gas outlet to drive the bolt, as in the usual gas outlet systems, but exclusively for unlocking.
  10. 0
    22 July 2024 17: 28
    I didn’t catch the logic - why put a powder charge into a cartridge and then release it from the weapon?
  11. 0
    10 August 2024 22: 52
    I have always been extremely interested in where the notorious embrasure is on the tank, through which you had to shoot with a pistol.