Five minutes from the Kremlin: new missiles for Europe

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Five minutes from the Kremlin: new missiles for Europe
Missiles SM-6 Block IB to appear in Germany in a couple of years


Winter Is Coming


In the first few months of the special military operation, everyone was talking about the return of the Cold War. It looks like you can only really worry about this now. Games with intercontinental ballistic missiles are characterized by a fairly large time interval between launch and hitting the target. Several tens of minutes can pass from the moment the torch of an ascending missile is detected until the multiple warheads fall on the target. Most often they talk about 40 minutes. During this time, you can take refuge in a bunker and have time to adequately attack the warmonger. It is not for nothing that Russia’s doctrine is now based on the reciprocal logic of using strategic nuclear weapons. weapons. On the topic of strategic missiles, we can talk about a certain balance of power between the main shareholders - Russia and the United States. For a while, everyone who is worried can calm down.



It's a different matter with shorter- and medium-range missiles. In accordance with the Washington Treaty of 1987, Mikhail Gorbachev destroyed an entire class of weapons in the Soviet Union - collectively the Oka, Pioneer, RK-55, R-12, R-14 and Temp-S systems. Moreover, “Oka”, as is known, was not a short-range missile. The product fell 500 km short of the contractually required range of 50 km. It should be noted that not only Europe exhaled after signing the ban, but also Mikhail Gorbachev.


Pershing II

It's no joke, in West Germany, since the late 70s, the Americans had deployed a whole cascade of short-range Pershing I missiles, and later medium-range Pershing II missiles. The ballistic missiles had a range of 2,5 kilometers and reached Moscow in just 5-7 minutes. Each warhead carried up to 80 kilotons of TNT equivalent and left no chance for the top military-political leadership of the USSR. There was a clear imbalance. The Americans could deliver a decapitating blow to the Soviet Union, but Moscow could not strike Washington with missiles. Except, of course, launching a swarm of ICBMs and when "the whole world turns to dust." Taking advantage of this, the Americans were able to put pressure on Gorbachev and agreed to destroy half as many medium- and short-range missiles on their side. Let us recall that we are talking about ground-based ballistic and cruise missiles. With regard to the missiles of the Navy and aviation There are no restrictions on basing. Ground-based missile systems are much more difficult to track, they are cheaper, and when they operate with products with a range of 500 to 5500 kilometers, it becomes critically dangerous. But it's not all that bad. In the Soviet Union in the 70s, the most secret and therefore myth-shrouded system "Perimeter" was put into operation. In the West, it was epically nicknamed "Dead Hand". Initially, the system was intended to mitigate the threat of destruction of communication systems between the nodes of the Strategic Missile Forces at the time of a nuclear strike. Along with the electronic warfare developing in the 60-70s, this posed a serious threat to a retaliatory strike against America. There are rumors about a certain "Doomsday machine" capable of analyzing what is happening on the territory of the Soviet Union and, if necessary, delivering a retaliatory strike with available forces without human participation. Science fiction writers write about a bunch of sensors sending data on radiation levels, EMP, seismic activity and human activity to some autonomous “brain center”. In application to shorter and medium-range missiles, “Perimeter” can provide retaliation in case of destruction of decision-making centers. Without going into details, it can be assumed that a retaliatory strike of ICBMs will cover not only the launch country, but also the United States. And this should be taken into account by those who intend to pull up medium and shorter-range missiles to the Russian borders for the second time.

Europe at gunpoint


Just like 45 years ago, the Americans announced the deployment of missiles in Europe. The same ones who were destroyed along with Gorbachev in 1987-1990. The United States officially withdrew from the Washington Treaty in 2019, and Donald Trump did so. This is about the question of some kind of complimentary behavior of the ex-president to our country. He is a Russophobe and a militarist, just like Biden. Side view only. In accordance with the plans of the United States, by 2026, intermediate- and shorter-range missiles should appear in Germany. Here it is necessary to make a remark and clarify for all doubters. The reason for this step on the part of Washington was not the North Military District, as many believe, but the purposeful policy of the US military-political leadership. Six years ago, the Americans came up with a reason - the 9M729 cruise missile from the Iskander complex can fly not 450 km, but 2000 km at once. The reason is very beautiful and unverifiable. The White House slammed the door and unilaterally withdrew from the treaty game. There is an opinion that this happened not even because of Russia, but because of the increase in the number of medium-range ground-based missiles by China, India, Pakistan and North Korea. These guys are not America's allies at all.

The Americans began work on new, previously banned missiles long before Russia was accused. Some systems required purely symbolic modernization - we are talking about Tomahawk ground-based cruise missiles. By the way, the Mk41 launch containers of the missile defense position area in Poland and Romania have long been able to operate with these products. This has been pointed out more than once by the Russian leadership. But now everything is official. The Tomahawk can be equipped with a nuclear warhead and has a range of 1800 km from Germany to Moscow. Conventionally, this weapon can be called a mid-range missile from those planned for deployment. The SM-740 Block IB multifunctional missile operates at distances of up to 6 km; formally it belongs to the class of anti-missile missiles from missile defense systems, but this model is designed to work against ships. This means that it will be quite useful for ground targets. The entire Kaliningrad region and a good half of Belarus are in the affected area of ​​the SM-6 Block IB launchers in Germany. The real queen of the NATO missile menagerie in Europe will be the hypersonic LRHW of the Dark Eagle complex, “which has a significantly greater range than current ground-based firepower in Europe" This product is currently in trial operation, but there is no doubt that it will soon be put into service. The LRHW will reach operational readiness next year. The missiles will settle in Germany, and we can confidently call them the reincarnation of Hitler’s “Ural bomber”. With a range of 2800 km, the missiles will barely reach Yekaterinburg and Chelyabinsk.


Hypersonic LRHW

The US Army's strike assets in the segment under study do not end there. The arsenal includes the PrSM operational-tactical complex with a range of 500 kilometers or more. It has long been integrated into the infamous HIMARS and M270 systems. Unless they are supplied to Zelensky. For now, at least. These products could appear in Europe tomorrow. If they haven’t already appeared, it’s very difficult to distinguish platforms with PrSM from “conventional” ones within 100 steps.

The above systems will become elements of the concept of a multi-domain task force or MDTF (Multi-Domain Task Force), which has been actively developed in recent years. The Americans hope that the MDTF will be an effective means of breaking through the no-access zone. When applied to Russia, this zone becomes the entire western borderland and the strategic depth of defense. Let us especially emphasize that the United States, with its missile systems in Europe, intends to soften not even the operational depth of Russia’s defense, but the strategic one. And the conflict in Ukraine contributes a lot to this.


PrSM is another threat from the European theater of operations. The missile range is more than 500 km

The Americans have now developed a well-developed scheme for striking deep into Russian territory. With the help of the Ukrainians and their own satellite group, they were able to create a fairly effective mechanism for destroying fuel and energy complex facilities. The algorithms for the operation of the systems are being studied and summarized Defense Russian Army, as well as the reaction of the country's top military-political leadership.

How will Russia respond? First of all, it is worth remembering the recent words of Vladimir Putin at a press conference in Astana:

“We are ready to start production. We have already, in principle, given the corresponding instructions to industry. Regarding deployment, I said that we are declaring a moratorium on the possible future deployment of our respective systems until these missile systems appear in some region of the world. If complexes, medium- and shorter-range missiles of American production appear somewhere, then we reserve the right to act in a mirror manner.”

At first glance, Russia cannot respond to America in a completely mirror way. There is simply nowhere around the United States to place ground-based systems with missiles with a range of 500 to 5500 km. Indeed, there is nowhere, if you do not take into account South America, more precisely, Venezuela. From here to the beaches of Miami is a little more than 2000 km. Which is quite achievable for promising domestic missiles. Such conclusions, of course, are purely theoretical - few people in South America would agree to an adventure with Russian missiles. But nothing can be ruled out.

In relation to Europe, Russia will easily and naturally respond symmetrically. Several land-based Kalibr missile batteries in the Kaliningrad region, coupled with shorter- and medium-range ballistic missiles currently being developed, will turn the Old World into a shoot-through area.

As a result, we see the American “attempt No. 2”. Reagan managed to put the squeeze on the Soviet leadership in 1987 - maybe now they will slip through to the second Washington Treaty. The logic is something like this. No one, most likely, is thinking about the actual use of missiles. The main mistake of Pentagon analysts is one thing: it is not Mikhail Sergeevich in the Kremlin now.
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  1. -15
    15 July 2024 05: 46
    Yolustone Volcano.. It's time.. We're waiting
    1. +1
      15 July 2024 13: 09
      -they will turn the Old World into a shoot-through area.
      What's the point of this? We need to hit the initiators from the New World. It's time to move to the doctrine of a preemptive strike, otherwise there will be nothing and no one to respond with.
      1. +2
        15 July 2024 17: 22
        He has been like this for a long time...OKA shot right through him from the territory of the GDR..
    2. +3
      15 July 2024 14: 14
      If it ever explodes, it will be the end for everyone, not just the US.
  2. +11
    15 July 2024 05: 48
    We all remember the former power in the USSR. And in the DPRK they created an MLRS (there are no analogues in the world).

    I propose to see how the Supreme High Command will give the order to destroy airfields for F-16s, supposedly for Ukraine.
    It is clear that no one will stir up American shit, especially since the joint venture was blown up by no one knows who...
  3. +20
    15 July 2024 06: 42
    . not many people who in South America will agree to an adventure with Russian missiles. But nothing can be ruled out.

    And who are these little ones? I would like to know!

    Even if we assume that suddenly some Venezuela agrees (for huge non-repayable loans), then it will still be necessary to manage to implement all this.
    Last time the Americans blocked the path of a Soviet convoy. And they can simply drown in this one. And destroy Venezuela itself to hell. And then what? They are no longer afraid of fake red lines.
    1. -16
      15 July 2024 08: 56
      this time it will be easier, there is a balance of nuclear forces, then there wasn’t... now it’s just easier to do it and they will swallow it. no one will sink because the Russian Federation is targeting American ships in the Gulf, East Asia, and the Mediterranean Sea.
      1. +18
        15 July 2024 10: 44
        Yes, I beg you, at what point. We’re even afraid to shoot down a drone that flies right next to our borders and aims everything it can at our soldiers, and you’re talking about ships in Asia….
        They will wipe themselves off.
    2. -21
      15 July 2024 09: 04
      ships with zircons and other missiles will be on duty in the Caribbean Sea and 500 km or closer from the Atlantic coast/Washington.
      1. +19
        15 July 2024 09: 19
        Quote: El Roz
        ships with zircons and other missiles will be on duty in the Caribbean Sea and 500 km away

        How feasible this is at such a distance and close to the United States is a debatable question. In any case, it will not be very easy!
        But the Americans will first organize a demonstrative naval blockade of Venezuela, and then a small “Iraq” there. And no one can stop them from doing this.
        1. +12
          15 July 2024 10: 53
          Quote: Stas157
          it will not be very easy!
          Even for the USSR it was very difficult; for capitalist Russia, it is virtually impossible, since the owners of the country are billionaires, with them everything is in the West, and with the West. These oligarchs, “Westerners,” do not allow the army to fight in Donbass to the full extent, with their own selfish interests.
          1. +2
            16 July 2024 00: 29
            Quote: Per se.
            These oligarchs, “Westerners”, do not allow the army to fight in Donbass to the full extent, with their own selfish interests

            Yes, it’s not the “Western masters” and certain “liberal capitalists” who are to blame, it’s not they who have plundered trillion-dollar budgets for the last 13 years and spent it on incomprehensible things, but the marshal of tank biathlons and his Caudla, like another Caudla with the military-industrial complex, which has been written and talked about for years , but TV Zvizda fans have always given a damn about reality. Right there, they don’t let you fight... There’s nothing to fight with! The Russian Armed Forces are not even close to marking time against NATO! 130mm M-46s and Chinese golf carts are being dragged to the front! It’s okay now the Ukrainians are stupid, they mobilize reluctantly, since they don’t pay nearly as much as in the Russian Federation and the West is arming them drop by drop, but this may change, since the West has the resources for this. And here they write articles like until 2022..
      2. +3
        15 July 2024 13: 40
        Circoceas are useless without target designation. And countries like Venezuela can be bombed into rubbish in a matter of days, which they know very well.
        1. -4
          15 July 2024 15: 17
          Why does Zircon need target designation? Aren’t the coordinates of the targets - the US Navy and Air Force bases in the south of the country or, for example, the city of Miami - known in advance? The inertial system and GLONASS grid will bring the Zircon to the target with an accuracy of up to 10 meters; the missile’s ARLGSN will not even turn on in this flight mode.
          1. 0
            15 July 2024 17: 01
            So, during the threatened period, ships will not sit in bases, like airplanes.

            I’m not saying that the Americans will certainly assign an escort to the ships on duty with zircons with the order to sink them when they try to launch a rocket.
            1. -2
              15 July 2024 17: 21
              I don’t understand, what do ships and planes have to do with it? The main value, and perhaps the only value, of medium-range forces and weapons is a counter-force and counter-value nuclear strike. Destroy as much of the enemy’s infrastructure as possible, his armed forces and exterminate as much of the enemy’s country’s population as possible, and wipe out his cities from the face of the earth. And the ships and planes that were unlucky enough to immediately burn up in the fire of a nuclear explosion, which at that time found themselves far from home, for few reasons - they were on a campaign, flying on patrol, or simply took off into the air with the desire to fly away from the base in order to survive . What happens next is that fuel, food and drinking water supplies (if on the ship) run out, what comes next - starvation of the crew, a riot on the ship. "And the living will envy the dead."
              1. +1
                15 July 2024 17: 50
                Moreover. Firstly, if there is a threatened period, the bases will be empty in advance, and the ships and planes that leave may turn out to be carriers of nuclear weapons with all that it entails.

                Secondly, above we are talking about “ships with zircons and other missiles will be on duty in the Caribbean Sea.” So, in order for them to fire, something needs to be done with the US ships that will be guarding them, and here they will need target designation for long-range anti-ship missiles, because the ships themselves will obviously be fired upon immediately when they try to launch a missile, if the Americans maintain close contact, as was the case recently in Cuba for example.
                1. -2
                  15 July 2024 18: 08
                  The first - from 1984 to 1989 as a response to the deployment of 108 Pershing-2 and 464 Griffons in Western Europe - as one of the measures, the duty of our SSBNs (SSBNs) of Project 667A was organized 1000 km from the western and 1000 km from east coast of the USA. With the aim of creating a similar 13-15 minute threat of a nuclear strike on US territory. For some reason, they didn’t bother much then, although the 667 A boats are a hundred times noisier than today’s boats.
                  Secondly, at a range of up to 400 km, the Zircon doesn’t need any target designators, it will find the required surface target better than anyone else.
                  1. +3
                    15 July 2024 20: 36
                    How will the zircon itself search for the target? Tell me, at random or by scent?
                    We do have hypersonic missiles and we are the best in the world in this, but it is also true that we are far behind the West and not only from it in reconnaissance and target designation...
                    And without target designation, zircon is of no use, and it will most likely hit stationary objects, but not ships.
                  2. -1
                    15 July 2024 20: 38
                    Okay, then it makes sense if zircons are on submarines. Surface ships are still too visible and vulnerable.
          2. -1
            15 July 2024 20: 33
            One zircon will not do anything to the base unless it is filled with a nucleus.
        2. -5
          15 July 2024 17: 21
          Do you have the specialty to judge the topic? Apparently not.. Yes, and access to products and special literature too :) .. But TsIPSO pays..
      3. 0
        16 July 2024 11: 58
        Dear comrade El Roz, how will we give target designation to missiles in which square to fly in order to sink an enemy ship? They don’t stand still, and the ones at the docks undergoing repairs are not dangerous to us anyway. Or do you mean that we will immediately fire nuclear weapons at the United States if something happens? Then what's the point? The underwater racket carriers are not going anywhere and will shoot back at us later.
      4. -1
        22 August 2024 06: 44
        It is best not to let our abmirals be drowned in the sea.
    3. -1
      15 July 2024 17: 23
      And destroy Venezuela itself to hell.
      Why didn’t they destroy it? Why didn’t they destroy the DPRK?
      1. +1
        15 July 2024 18: 41
        They didn’t demolish it because it doesn’t yet pose a real threat to the United States. During the Cuban Missile Crisis, all the generals insisted on a massive bombing of Cuba, including nuclear bombing if the USSR could accommodate it.

        Until recently, the DPRK did not have nuclear weapons, and even now it will not dare to attack first. Moreover, if you bomb it, you will have a headache in the form of tens of millions of refugees. And the DPRK serves as an excellent scarecrow for the rest of the world: “look how you will live under our sanctions if you go against us” and “look what communism is in reality.”
        1. +1
          15 July 2024 20: 12
          During the Cuban Missile Crisis, all the generals insisted on a massive bombing of Cuba, including nuclear bombing if the USSR could accommodate it.
          Well, yes, all the generals and special services, all the Republicans and many Democrats, Kennedy alone on a white horse saved everyone, then he was killed and then Cuba came... but nothing happened to it, capitalism continued to shake, Cuban military experts were roaming around half the planet and brought the current Venezuelan government to power.
          But Iraq and Yugoslavia posed a serious threat to the United States, which is why they were bombed.
          1. 0
            15 July 2024 20: 51
            What threat did Cuba pose without missiles? That Cuban specialists were shaking capitalism is not funny - on the contrary, thanks to the sanctions, the Cubans became impoverished and began to flee en masse to the United States; the showcase of communism did not work out.

            In addition, there was an agreement with the USSR that Cuba would not be touched.

            Iraq and Yugoslavia are from a different story. There was something to take from Iraq; in Yugoslavia there was a long-term war almost in the center of Europe - uncontrollable chaos.
            1. 0
              15 July 2024 21: 04
              What threat did Cuba pose without missiles?
              So today there are no missiles, and tomorrow bam - and the missiles have already been brought.
              That Cuban specialists were shaking capitalism is not funny - on the contrary, thanks to the sanctions, the Cubans became impoverished and began to flee en masse to the United States; the showcase of communism did not work out.
              So, let's look at it in detail. Relative to whom have Cubans become poorer? Regarding the casino owners who fled to the USA? Or maybe in comparison with other impoverished countries with off-scale crime in the Caribbean? Where are people fleeing more actively - from Cuba or from pro-American Mexico?
              showcase of communism failed
              a normal showcase, without this showcase the Americans and their slaves would not have fought for decades with partisans in Latin America. El Salvador and Haiti are the best showcases of pro-American regimes, Cuba against their background is an island of freedom
              In addition, there was an agreement with the USSR that Cuba would not be touched.
              Apparently the USSR was unable to come to an agreement about other countries.
              in Yugoslavia there was a long-term war almost in the center of Europe - uncontrollable chaos.
              What does uncontrolled mean? Didn’t the Croats, for example, build their army and plan operations under the strict American leadership? Here you can write a huge opus about uncontrollability
              There was something to take from Iraq
              Well, apparently there’s nothing from Cuba and Venezuela laughing laughing
              1. -1
                15 July 2024 21: 47
                Nope, there was an agreement that there would be no more missiles there in exchange for the independence of Cuba and the absence of missiles in Turkey.

                Will you deny that sanctions have greatly prevented Cuba from developing and that Cubans still drive cars from the 50s, if they drive at all, and many simply build rafts and sail to the USA? It doesn’t matter that the neighbors are also doing poorly. It is important that Cuba does not even pose an ideological threat, the standard of living on the Island of Freedom does not impress anyone, and there is nothing to take from it. Again, another convenient scarecrow for the rest of the world: “look how poorly you will live if you go against us.”

                Uncontrolled means that everyone has been killing everyone for years, and eventually the West got tired of it. Europe certainly wasn’t happy about the chaos at hand.

                There is nothing to take from Cuba, and since Venezuela has not yet been touched, it means that oil was not worth the cost of occupation and the reputational damage from the invasion (after the same Iraq, many disliked the United States), that’s all.
  4. -1
    15 July 2024 06: 48
    I have repeatedly seen discussions in the West about the need to deliver to the country of Ukraine these small jeeps that are in service with the USMC. LRFL. Much smaller than the ATACMS PCs (go ahead and catch them), but the range of Tomahawks in containers is a little longer - 2600 km.
    1. +7
      15 July 2024 08: 33
      The containers do not contain Tomahawks, but Norwegian anti-ship missiles Naval Strike Missile, or NSM. They are in service with the Marine Corps in the United States.
      1. 0
        17 July 2024 05: 23
        Okay, and what about this version of the system on the same jeep? In different sources, the range varies from 1500 to 2600 km. Is it easier for us that on this cart there are not 2 anti-ship missiles with a range of 185 km (if only the Americans had some conscience, they would have given the Houthis about twenty of them as a gift, otherwise the same "Bal" is such a fool compared to this dwarf, you'll get tired of dragging it to Yemen), but one Axe? I don't think so.
  5. -2
    15 July 2024 07: 37
    They started developing it a long time ago, and maybe they never stopped. And ours, as usual, were observing something there, they were afraid of a shout from above, and now here it is again, “moratorium, unless...”
    Post it here and that's it
    1. +5
      15 July 2024 08: 57
      you understand very optimistically) but why would ours really be ours? the marked one was not a pioneer, but along the beaten path of rockada, then it has been developed, and how many of “ours” are really ours? By the way, about the “Nashi” movement, ask about their very symbolic fate, at least from the leadership
  6. +4
    15 July 2024 07: 39
    It's time for Europe... smile During those times, the darkest one also spoke about flight time from Ukraine winked For some reason I didn’t mention the Baltic states then... Probably a taboo.
    1. -8
      15 July 2024 09: 10
      NATO is growing. Turkey also had BRs, there is Poland, Finland. Only the destruction of one of these countries can somehow shake up this situation. Burn them to hell... and something might move in their heads, which threatens to give up territory for foreign BRs with nuclear weapons. But for now, the deployment of any American weapons or base is a success for such states. It is profitable financially and politically. Even if it is a brothel like Thailand.
  7. +6
    15 July 2024 07: 47
    In the first few months of the special military operation, everyone was talking about the return of the Cold War.


    It is wrong and cynical to talk about the onset of the Cold War in the current situation. There is already a hot war underway, and the deployment of American missiles in Europe, along with other pre-emptive strike capabilities, is intended to force Russia to capitulate after it weakens in Ukraine. If there is no surrender, they will strike. But it is not exactly.

    Perhaps no strike will be needed if some upheaval occurs in the Russian Federation, or if supporters of the "deal" come to power.

    Regarding the options for creating a threat to the US: if there is a desire, it would be possible. Medium- and long-range missiles could be deployed on Kamchatka and Sakhalin. It would be possible to declare the deployment of the container version of the "Caliber" "Club-K" on civilian ships in large numbers. And let the Americans catch them in the World Ocean.

    It is possible to place waterproof containers with rockets on the shelf. Such experiments were conducted both in the States and here.

    But to do this, you need to take the initiative and be the first to make a decision, and not draw red lines that no one sees.
    1. +8
      15 July 2024 08: 32
      There is an instructive chapter in Yan’s book about Genghis Khan “On how to write letters” (a letter in 2 lines: “you want war, you will get it”)
      Our politicians probably haven't read due to their backwardness. That's why they make long servile statements and think that it will increase their rating.
    2. -7
      15 July 2024 09: 00
      will it weaken? factories now produce 5-10 times more than in 2021.
      or will Ukraine collapse to the end?
      and how will nuclear forces weaken?
      1. +5
        15 July 2024 10: 15
        Quote: El Roz
        will it weaken? factories now produce 5-10 times more than in 2021.

        laughing Why not 100-200 at once? 2-3 times, maximum. In order to increase capacity by 10 times, it is necessary to build new factories and workshops. But for some reason I don’t know about any.
    3. +5
      15 July 2024 12: 08
      Quote: avia12005
      Perhaps no blow will be needed if some upheavals occur in the Russian Federation, or if supporters of the “negotiation” come to power.

      So, these “deceived” supporters of the agreements did not disappear anywhere. In Ukraine, tons of ammunition are flying away; do we even have a strategic stock of missiles, shells, mines and bombs in our arsenals, which we always had in case of a major war? If there is only one nuclear weapon left, as the last trump card... These gestures of “good will”, these rag “red lines”, loud words... Maybe this is all intended, to wear down, bleed Russia, putting on a good face, in a failed game ?
      The West plays along, plays down, “I’m afraid, I’m afraid,” we don’t have time to make weapons and ammunition, as if it wasn’t ours that they destroyed and optimized the lion’s share of industrial enterprises, closed design bureaus, research institutes and testing grounds, but theirs.
      Not our henpecked traitors, a threat to world capitalism, but the residual Soviet nuclear missile potential. Now, the West needs to put an end to it, of course, in the name of peace, humanism and tolerance, then our bad boys will live better than before, having surrendered the country, again in friendship with the West, without sanctions, with their billions in foreign banks and foreign currency.
    4. +4
      15 July 2024 12: 33
      or supporters of the “negotiation” will come to power Aren't his supporters there now? Everywhere and everywhere they remind us that “we are open for negotiations.”
    5. +3
      15 July 2024 17: 26
      Perhaps no blow will be needed if some upheavals occur in the Russian Federation, or if supporters of the “negotiation” come to power.
      Sorry, but did they go somewhere? Rather, there is a risk of the arrival of someone less inclined to negotiate, this is what the West fears
  8. D16
    +5
    15 July 2024 08: 06
    medium-range Pershing II. Ballistic missiles hit 2,5 thousand kilometers and reached Moscow in just 5-7 minutes.

    Sometimes it's better to chew than to write articles. laughing
  9. -10
    15 July 2024 08: 34
    We've already seen so many prodigies from God's chosen ones that we literally died of fear. It is impossible to make many such missiles and they do much less harm than expected.
  10. +6
    15 July 2024 08: 44
    How will Russia respond? First of all, it is worth remembering the recent words of Vladimir Putin

    That's it, he will answer only in words.
    1. -11
      15 July 2024 09: 02
      ask the terrorists in Syria or the Banderaites in Ukraine about “just words.”
      they don't think so there.
      1. +9
        15 July 2024 10: 06
        Quote: El Roz
        ask the terrorists in Syria or the Banderaites in Ukraine about “just words.”
        they don't think so there.

        Why ask them? Just as they ran in Syria and in 404, they still run.
  11. -14
    15 July 2024 08: 54
    many misconceptions and suggestions:
    1. The top of the country will all be in one place, in the Kremlin.
    2. There are no bunkers from which the command will be conducted in tense times, and US rackets will simply fly into any situation - not during a political crisis, but just like that, and then the entire elite in the Kremlin will not be on the alert.
    3. there are no other delegated people except the president to press a button somewhere from an airplane or from many bunkers in the country.
    4. ships with zircons and other missiles will not be on duty in the Caribbean Sea and 500 km or closer from the Atlantic coast/Washington.
    1. +3
      15 July 2024 09: 07
      All locations of the top are known and a supply of warheads is allocated to each location. This is why aerial command posts were created....
    2. +8
      15 July 2024 10: 10
      Quote: El Roz
      1. The top of the country will all be in one place, in the Kremlin.

      Why in one place? They only have one missile or what?
      Quote: El Roz
      2. There are no bunkers from which the command will be conducted in tense times, and US rackets will simply fly into any situation - not during a political crisis, but just like that, and then the entire elite in the Kremlin will not be on the alert.

      The locations of all bunkers are known, and nuclear weapons can be easily removed. The only question here is the speed of reaction to retaliatory launches, and the Perimeter system.
      Quote: El Roz
      3. there are no other delegated people except the president to press a button somewhere from an airplane or from many bunkers in the country.

      One can only hope that there are such people.
      Quote: El Roz
      4. ships with zircons and other missiles will not be on duty in the Caribbean Sea and 500 km or closer from the Atlantic coast/Washington.

      It's not even funny. Can you name many such ships? And how many American ships are there for each of our ships?
  12. +2
    15 July 2024 09: 05
    The main problem here is that an American ballistic missile flies to Moscow in 5-7 minutes from EU territory.
    We cannot create such a threat in a mirror image. But, as the conflict in 404 shows, the world has not reached the barrier of using nuclear weapons, and ballistic missiles are used in full force and have high accuracy. So, MRBMs need to be made.
    And for third countries willingly deploying foreign TNW, it would of course be good to see a neighboring democratic EU country burn down. This would be beneficial.
  13. +5
    15 July 2024 09: 09
    No matter what anyone says, until the United States is fully prepared, the only way to avoid a formal Russia-NATO war is the collapse of the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ defenses over a large area in the short term. If you stupidly continue the local “squeezing out the enemy,” then America will end the elections and the entire American elite will rush to save its reputation as a hegemon with the help of the intervention of Poland and Romania and nuclear weapons strikes on Russia.
    1. -1
      15 July 2024 14: 06
      will rush to save its reputation as a hegemon with the help of the intervention of Poland and Romania and nuclear weapons strikes against Russia.

      Come on, they are now skimping on weapons and their range of use. Only hit there, don’t hit there, we prohibit it there.
      Who will run where? If they wanted to save us, we would see hundreds of American missiles flying towards Russia
      1. +1
        15 July 2024 18: 01
        You don't have to read only what you like. The US is not ready yet. The elections have not yet passed, the speed of the military-industrial complex has not yet been accelerated, ammunition has not yet been stockpiled, the construction of military bases in new territories around Russia has not yet been completed. And if America is given enough time, they will be able to decide on an adventure.
        1. 0
          16 July 2024 02: 48
          J.D. Vance's Opposition to American Support for Ukraine: In His Own Words

          “I really don’t care what happens to Ukraine one way or the other,” Senator Vance said.

          J.D. Vance was one of the most vocal opponents of American aid to Ukraine in Congress.

          Donald Trump's selection of Sen. J.D. Vance, R-Ohio, as his vice presidential running mate on Monday raised doubts about continued U.S. support for Ukraine if the former president returns to the White House next year.

          Mr. Vance has been one of the most vocal opponents of U.S. aid to Ukraine in Congress, chiding the Biden administration for its continued cash and material support and leading an unsuccessful campaign in the Senate to block the $60 billion package.

          A conservative, Mr. Vance argues that American support for Ukraine in its war against Russian invaders is unnecessarily costly and calls a return to Ukraine's pre-invasion borders "fantastical."

          Mr. Vance argues that Ukraine should stop its offensive maneuvers in its war with Russia and begin negotiations for a settlement because the West will never be able to produce enough weapons to make victory possible.

          After all, in a 2022 podcast interview, he told Steve Bannon, a longtime Trump adviser who is now serving a four-month prison sentence for contempt of Congress: “I really don’t care what happens to Ukraine one way or the other.”

          https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/15/world/europe/ukraine-jd-vance.html?action=click&pgtype=Article&module=&state=default&region=footer&context=breakout_link_back_to_briefing
  14. +15
    15 July 2024 10: 03
    The main mistake of Pentagon analysts is one thing: it is not Mikhail Sergeevich in the Kremlin now.

    Well, yes, only those who are now in the Kremlin will still give the marked person and his company a head start. Gorbachev's elites did not have accounts, property and families in NATO countries...
  15. -4
    15 July 2024 10: 37
    What about the Poseidon system? Maybe the Navy has already deployed these devices along the US coast?
  16. 0
    15 July 2024 10: 40
    This placement is a hint to the “leader” for an agreement: if Russia is going to spread out from Europe, then why take the entire Outskirts?
  17. +1
    15 July 2024 10: 52
    As a result, we see the American “attempt No. 2”. Reagan managed to put the squeeze on the Soviet leadership in 1987 - maybe now they will slip through to the second Washington Treaty. The logic is something like this. No one, most likely, is thinking about the actual use of missiles. The main mistake of Pentagon analysts is one thing: it is not Mikhail Sergeevich in the Kremlin now.

    The beginning of the article is for good health (albeit with errors like Pershings with a range of 2500 km and forgotten Tomahawks), but here is the end... In “attempt No. 1,” the United States created an unacceptable threat to the USSR in order to remove Soviet “Euromissiles” from Europe. Now the United States, through its actions, is forcing Russia to place its INF in Europe. There is no sign of any agreements here. Unless you believe in the conspiracy theory that the United States poses a threat to Russia, so that it would influence the PRC in concluding the INF agreement.
  18. +2
    15 July 2024 12: 18
    No one, most likely, is thinking about the actual use of missiles. The main mistake of analysts
    This is, in fact, the main mistake.
    Previously, such mistakes were not made, and that is why the old Politburo began to reduce armaments, including removing the RMSD.

    But the characters, let’s call them “Shoigu’s generation,” believe that, having broken everything that was done before them, they can somehow “bend the hegemon in.”

    Let's look at this using the RIAC as an example.
    The main mistake is to continue to think in the paradigm of “confrontation between the USSR and the USA.”
    Of course, not the USSR-USA, but the ATS-NATO.
    And now the confrontation between the Russian Federation and NATO. The economic, human, and territorial potentials are incommensurable—and even from an ideological point of view, attempts to revive “anti-colonialism” look ridiculous.
    Will the Americans supply MRSD to Europe? Of course, they will. They will supply both to Poland and the Baltic states. And nuclear weapons will be quietly returned to the fleet, to non-strategic carriers. And how will we answer - well, of course, IskanderK, that is. At the same time, as the author noted “Russia cannot respond to America in a completely mirror way. There is simply nowhere around the United States to place ground-based systems with missiles with a range of 500 to 5500 km”.
  19. -2
    15 July 2024 12: 41
    This means that ours must announce that the sea drone Poseidon is going out to patrol the waters near the US borders
  20. -1
    15 July 2024 14: 14
    Of course, they will not be used - the risk of even a weak retaliatory strike is unacceptable to the West. But this is a tool for putting pressure on the Kremlin, as well as for additionally binding the satellite to itself (they say, you are under reliable protection, you can sleep peacefully while our bases and missiles are with you)
  21. +1
    15 July 2024 18: 35
    In 2025, our Ukrainian friends will most likely be given Tomahawks with a range of 2600 km, first in a non-nuclear version, to rehearse nuclear strikes on Russia (although, for example, a successful strike on Novouralsk is unlikely to differ from a nuclear one (Chernobyl is simply resting there). I think these small jeeps of the RLFL system are already being painted in yellow and blue flags. And Trump will do nothing against their half-mad deep government, which saw the real red-line cowardice of our Supreme Leadership. And the jeep, the hero of the next year, 2025, here it is. Harmless and inconspicuous. 2600 km ... So far without a 150-200 kt warhead ...
  22. 0
    16 July 2024 13: 31
    Oh, well, yes. Not Mikhail Sergeevich.
    Only in the Kremlin there are still all sorts of traitors like Kuzhegetovich and just idiots like Medvedev and Volodin.
  23. 0
    19 July 2024 17: 56
    To those who suffer. For reference.
    One Project 955 Borei nuclear-powered missile cruiser carries 16 R-30 Bulava missiles. Each such rocket is equipped with 6-10 blocks with a power of 100-150 kT. In total, each boat of the “princely series” is capable of hitting 96-160 targets in a salvo. ONE. Throughout Europe “from Lisbon to the Urals” there are approximately 70 cities with a population of more than 500 thousand. And half of them are in Russia. In the USA there are even fewer such cities - about 40. Russia now has 7 boats in service.

    So there is no need for either missiles in Cuba or ground-based INF. One boat could wipe out half of Europe.
  24. 0
    11 August 2024 17: 05
    It is precisely about striking that they are thinking about. Just a little scary. But under certain conditions they will strike.
  25. 0
    11 August 2024 17: 17
    But the question is - Russia supplies us with strategic raw materials.... And then what can we talk about when the Northern Military District is underway and the Gay Europeans supply the Ukrainians with diesel fuel from our oil?