German aircraft industry in the interwar period: long-range fighter-bomber Messerschmitt Bf. 110

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German aircraft industry in the interwar period: long-range fighter-bomber Messerschmitt Bf. 110

First World War war (or the Great War) was a period of unusually rapid technological development. In the decades leading up to the Great War, army Technology had changed dramatically, but even the most insightful pre-war thinkers of 1914 were unable to predict the pace of technological development during the war.

Military personnel during the First World War had to adapt to the advent of airplanes, automobiles, tanks and poisonous gases as new types weapons. Commanders, general staffs and military ministries had to try to master the variety of new equipment and adapt it to the conditions of combat operations. The period between the world wars was a time of extraordinary breakthrough development of the world's armed forces. The First World War proved to be a technological catalyst for this progress.



Weapons such as the tank, which appeared during the war, saw rapid development in the 1920s and 1930s. The war accelerated the development of automobile technology, while each army experimented with motorization. As Britain and Germany developed radar, radio and electronics began to develop. The most impressive development was the transformation of the aircraft from a useful support weapon into a powerful and decisive military asset.

Throughout the 1930s, the air forces of the major military powers were busy transitioning from biplane to monoplane designs. Most attention was paid to the single-engine fighter, but the problem of flight range arose. In this regard, the ministry aviation (German: Reichsluftfahrtministerium or RLM) under the leadership of Hermann Goering made a request for a new multi-role fighter with a long flight range. This is how the Messerschmitt Bf fighter-bomber appeared. 110, also known as Me-110.

Development of a new air warfare doctrine


Hans von Seeckt with German officers during maneuvers in Thuringia, 1925
Hans von Seeckt with German officers during maneuvers in Thuringia, 1925

Immediately after the First World War, the German army, led by Chief of the General Staff Hans von Seeckt, began a large-scale study of its lessons and the development of a new operational doctrine for the ground forces and air force. During the period 1919–1921 Five hundred German officers were assigned to serve on committees that analyzed every aspect of the war, from mountain operations to tank battles, bombing and air defense.

In the 1920s, a secret air force was created within the German Army to serve as an air force general staff in anticipation of eventual rearmament and the creation of an independent air force. Between 1919 and 1921, the Air Staff conducted a comprehensive study of the First World War and established a set of principles for air warfare that formed the basis of German air doctrine during the interwar period. German air doctrine in the 1920s was outlined in the Directives for Operational Air Warfare, written in 1926.

The Air Force Staff's conclusion from studying World War I was that air power is inherently most effective offensively, not defensively. Although German pilots fought a defensive air war during World War I, they discovered that strong air defense was not the deciding factor in the war.

Thus, the Germans came to the conclusion that bombers were the main weapon of the Air Force. In an air campaign, the air force's first priority would be to gain air superiority.

As with the Army, Air Force doctrine essentially called for two air forces: one that would support the Army, fly short-range reconnaissance missions, reconnaissance missions, provide fighter protection to the Army, and conduct ground attack missions. The latter were to become independent air forces operating under the strategic, but not operational, leadership of the high command.

The independent air force had a strategic mission that was not just to bomb industrial plants or other targets deep in enemy territory. An independent air force, consisting primarily of bombers and long-range aircraft, would focus on those targets that would have the most significant impact. This may include bombing enemy weapons factories, but also direct attacks on the enemy army or its transport.

In 1935, the reconstituted Luftwaffe issued a new Charter 16, "Management of Air Warfare", which became the main reflection of the doctrine of Luftwaffe air warfare in World War II. Here the basic principles of air warfare developed in 1926 were outlined in more detail. However, the basic directions of the evolution of the doctrine remained unchanged. This stability was very useful in the development of weapons and equipment.

It should be noted that not only was strategic bombing not a top priority among the Luftwaffe's missions, but also Charter 16 included a ban on terrorist attacks on cities (it was stated that the Luftwaffe reserved the right to carry out retaliatory airstrikes "for the purpose of retaliation" "). That is, strategic bombing, while not completely ruled out, clearly had a lower priority than tactical air support.

German doctrine provided for fighter escort for bombers, so the Messerschmitt Bf long-range fighter was developed for this purpose. 110.

Messerschmitt Bf. 110 and its use at the beginning of World War II




In the late 1930s, many major air powers attempted to create a long-range, twin-engine fighter with the performance of a single-engine interceptor. Germany's main achievement in this area was the Messerschmitt Bf. 110. Despite the fact that Bf. The 110 proved unable to match single-engine interceptors; it became the Luftwaffe's most valuable night fighter, remaining in service until the end of the war in Europe.

Bf. 110 was developed in 1934 in accordance with the Luftwaffe's technical specifications for the creation of a long-range strategic fighter. The machine was a cantilever monoplane with a low wing, made of metal with duralumin sheathing. The fuselage is an oval-section monocoque with an elongated and glazed canopy, which accommodated a crew of three. The tail was mounted above the rear of the fuselage and had end stabilizers and rudders. The wing was a single-spar structure with slots on the leading edge and flaps on the trailing edge. The main landing gear elements were retracted back into the engine nacelles, and the tail wheel was folded at the rear of the fuselage.

The aircraft was designed on the basis of two twelve-cylinder liquid-cooled Daimler-Benz DB 600 engines with an inverted cylinder arrangement, which were just beginning to be produced. First prototype, Bf. 110 V1, made its premiere flight on May 12, 1936 from Augsburg-Haunstetten airfield. Despite its high speed, the Bf. The 110 exhibited a serious lack of maneuverability.

This was followed by two more prototypes, released on October 24 and December 24, 1936, respectively. First, Bf. 110 V2, was delivered to Rechlin for Luftwaffe testing on January 14, 1937. The success of these tests prompted the Air Ministry (RLM) to award a contract for four pre-production Bf aircraft. 110A. They were manufactured between August 1937 and March 1938, but due to slow deliveries of the DB 600 engine, they were fitted with Junkers Jumo 210B engines, which produced only 610 hp for takeoff. With. Bf. The 110 A-0 had four 7–9 mm MG 17 machine guns in the nose and one 7–9 mm MG 15 machine gun in the rear of the cockpit.

On April 19, 1938, the first of two Bf. 110B-Os made its debut flight. Both aircraft were equipped with Junkers Jumo 210G engines producing 670 hp. s., but after mass deliveries of the DB 600A began in the summer, the aircraft were equipped with this power plant. For Bf. The 110B-Os was followed by the similar production model B-1. This aircraft had similar armament to the A-0, but carried two 20 mm MG FF cannons in the nose in addition to four MG 17 Bf machine guns. The 110 B-2 was similar, and the B-3 became a two-seat trainer.

Relatively few Bf were produced. 110B before the machine was replaced on production lines by the improved C-series. The new subtype was distinguished by the fact that it was equipped with two Daimler-Benz DB 601A engines with a power of 1 hp. With. The first Bf. 100 were delivered to the Luftwaffe in February 110, and were soon followed by production C-1939 aircraft.


The campaign against Poland began with a massive attack on Polish Air Force airfields, with Bf. 110 flew as escort for Luftwaffe bomber units. German fighters proved to be more than worthy competitors to the high-wing monoplanes of the Polish Air Force and strengthened the faith of the Reich's political leadership in the invincibility of the Luftwaffe.

Bf. The 110 first saw action against the Royal Air Force on 18 December 1939, when 22 Wellingtons attempted armed reconnaissance of Heligoland Bight. Sixteen Bf. 110 and thirty-four Bf. 109 intercepted them, resulting in a protracted battle.

As a result, only ten Wellingtons managed to return to British shores, and two of them crashed upon landing. For the next three years, no major Allied bomber force entered German airspace during daylight.

Использованная литература:
James S. Corum. A Clash of Military Cultures: German and French Approaches to Technology Between the World Wars. A Paper for the USAF Academy Symposium, September 1994.
Smith, JR; Kay, Anthony L. German Aircraft of the Second World War. London, 1972.
Corum, J. S. The Roots of Blitzkrieg: Hans von Seeckt and German Military Reform. – USA: University Press of Kansas, 1994.
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  1. -19
    13 July 2024 04: 30
    The Germans gave direction in the future on how to kill people. USA receiver....
    1. +8
      13 July 2024 07: 09
      receiver

      Kostya, how can you hear? Reception...3...2...1
    2. +1
      13 July 2024 13: 09
      Quote: RVAPatriot
      The Germans gave direction

      Ban on city bombing
      1. 0
        13 July 2024 23: 47
        As they gave the direction, they took it back by bombing Rotterdam.
  2. +8
    13 July 2024 05: 06
    Despite its high speed, the Bf. The 110 exhibited a serious lack of maneuverability.

    Somewhere I saw information that in the hands of a skilled pilot, the 110 was no more maneuverable on horizontals than the 109. The small turning radius was achieved by releasing the gas of the internal (relative to the arc) engine while simultaneously boosting the external one.
    1. +6
      13 July 2024 07: 33
      in the hands of a skilled pilot, 110 was on the horizontal as if no more maneuverable than 109
      That's exactly what is in the hands of a skilled pilot! A skilled pilot could easily cope with Messerschmitts in an old I-16. But only the skillful one
      1. +6
        13 July 2024 08: 47
        That's exactly what is in the hands of a skilled pilot! A skilled pilot could easily cope with Messerschmitts in an old I-16. But only the skillful one

        Hi Michael!
        I had the opportunity to communicate with a pilot who began serving on the MiG-15 and ended up flying the MiG-25. Under 100 grams with cucumber, he told tales no worse than a sea wolf, but a number of moments sank into my soul.
        For example, “The fairest battle was before the advent of air-to-air missiles. Only You, your machine and His Majesty chance. Do you know what it is? No? This is Him, his machine and His Majesty the occasion! Everyone understood his case - it’s you, but... it’s never easy and simple. In Korea, I was told that in one-on-one combat, American jet “Stars” were shot down by gunners-radio operators of “Ilov” (IL-10) and, on the contrary, “propeller Corsairs” took away jet “MiGs”. Today (this is in the XNUMXs) there is no truth in the sky, everything is decided by the machine, you just choose how... and press the button... well, takeoff and landing. Tomorrow, I'm afraid, there will be no place in the sky for a pilot.
        1. +5
          13 July 2024 10: 53
          In my opinion, the war in Vietnam and the Middle East are the last pages of romanticism. Mig 19 vs F-105, Mig 21 vs B-52. Design intuition, originality were all present then. Now optimization and computer models. Airplanes have lost their individuality.
          1. +3
            13 July 2024 11: 03
            In my opinion, the war in Vietnam and the Middle East, the last pages of romanticism
            Well said! My regards! hi
          2. +1
            13 July 2024 14: 47
            According to my father, who flew since 1945, romanticism in aviation ended in the second half of the 30s.
          3. 0
            14 July 2024 00: 51
            Quote: mr.ZinGer
            Now optimization and computer models. Airplanes have lost their individuality.

            Now an automation programmer will introduce an effective program into a fighter drone and the enemy’s losses will be 20:1. In principle, at first, automation replaced human muscular strength and his ability to cut through the enemy’s armor with the ability to aim accurately and quickly. Now it’s enough just to find the goal. Soon a programmer will simply have to create an algorithm for effectively searching for a target, and the war will be won not by a general from the General Staff, but by a practical engineer trained in all modern sciences.
        2. +3
          13 July 2024 10: 54
          The fairest fight was before the advent of air-to-air missiles. Only you, your car
          Air battles in the First and Second WW were somewhat reminiscent of the knightly tournaments of the Middle Ages, when courage and composure competed against the same composure and courage. And all this with mutual respect! Today (this is in the 2000s) there is no truth in the sky, everything is decided by the machine, you just choose how... and press the button, I agree with this!
          Tomorrow, I'm afraid, there won't be room in the sky for a pilot.
          Even though I’m already retired, it seems to me that even now a pilot in the sky is less and less in demand wink
        3. +1
          13 July 2024 18: 01
          In Korea, I was told that in one-on-one combat, American jet “Stars” were shot down by gunners-radio operators of “Ilov” (IL-10) and, on the contrary, “propeller Corsairs” took away jet “MiGs”.
          If you consider that there were North Koreans in these Il-10s, and in these MiG-15s too, then everything is correct. Our MiG-15s suffered no losses from the Corsairs. And the effectiveness of the Korean Il-10 is explained by the excessive arrogance of the Americans, who thought that the UBT machine gun was not capable of anything. But in vain.
      2. +7
        13 July 2024 09: 06
        A skilled pilot on the I-16 could not allow the Messer to shoot him down, but it’s easy to cope with him - this is from the realm of tales.
        1. -1
          13 July 2024 14: 19
          A skilled pilot on the I-16 could not allow the Messer to shoot him down, but it’s easy to cope with him - this is from the realm of tales
          I-16s were superior to German fighters in maneuverability and climb, but lagged behind them in speed. A plus for the Messerschmitt is its cannon armament, but taking into account the average time spent in the sights, the I-16 machine guns did their job much more efficiently. The number of German fighters shot down in air battles with I-16s is something like one and a half thousand and this speaks for itself. Here we can say that the “donkey’s” opponents were aircraft of a completely different generation and different technologies. And on my own behalf I will say that your made-up comment is precisely from the realm of tales
          1. +2
            13 July 2024 14: 44
            “a made-up comment is precisely from the realm of tales” - these are the memories of a fighter pilot who fought in 1948 - 1949. He told this to my father, who had just joined the regiment as a young lieutenant.
            “taking into account the average time spent in the sight, I-16 machine guns did their job much more efficiently” - world experience says the opposite, all countries of the world with the beginning of WWII abandoned the rifle caliber stop
            1. +1
              13 July 2024 14: 46
              Since the beginning of WWII, all countries of the world abandoned the rifle caliber
              Because year after year, bookings increased
              1. +2
                13 July 2024 15: 01
                Because the destructive power of a rifle bullet is much weaker than a large-caliber bullet and is incommensurate with an exploding projectile, because the planes became all-metal, because the tanks became protected, because the planes became larger and much more durable, because the engines became more powerful and it became possible to increase the armament of the planes and many others That's why.
                If the donkey were at least slightly comparable in its characteristics to the Messer, no one would remove it from production.
                1. -5
                  13 July 2024 15: 22
                  because the planes became all-metal
                  For a simple 7,62 caliber machine gun bullet, aluminum ribs or stringers are just as easy to penetrate as wooden ones. A cannon against an armored fighter, and a machine gun against a bomber
                  1. +3
                    13 July 2024 15: 42
                    “A gun against an armored fighter, and a machine gun against a bomber” - there are simply no words for how magnificent it is! I am impressed! Further dialogue is pointless.
                    1. -2
                      13 July 2024 18: 29
                      Further dialogue is pointless
                      I'm surprised by this myself
          2. +6
            13 July 2024 18: 04
            I-16s were superior to German fighters in maneuverability and climb,
            There is an adjective missing in the first statement. I-16 was superior to Me-109 in horizontal maneuverability. And the second statement. about the “gain in altitude” is simply wrong. The Me-109 was superior to the I-16 in vertical maneuver, which was a consequence of its greater thrust-to-weight ratio.
          3. +3
            13 July 2024 22: 17
            The number of German fighters shot down in air battles with I-16s is something like one and a half thousand and this speaks for itself.

            Khe khe.

            People who, using I-16s alone, destroyed all German fighters at the beginning of Barbarossa, tell us that Hartmann was lying with his claims for downed ones.
          4. +3
            13 July 2024 23: 58
            The I-16 type 27 and type 28 had cannons.
          5. 0
            14 July 2024 01: 00
            Quote: Dutchman Michel
            A skilled pilot on the I-16 could not allow the Messer to shoot him down, but it’s easy to cope with him - this is from the realm of tales
            I-16s were superior to German fighters in maneuverability and climb, but lagged behind them in speed.
            Therefore, Messer could impose a battle on the I-16 or I-15 on the vertical, forcing the enemy fighters to stand in a circle. Call for help and either shoot down the enemy with vertical attacks or wait for the enemy to run out of fuel while flying in a circle (ellipse) with a retreat to your airfield. The Red Army Armed Forces now have aerocobras, La-5, Yak and aviation gasoline for combat at normal speed with a ratio of 2:1 in favor of the Red Army Armed Forces. Luftwaffe victories have become impossible since 1943, and hence victories in the Wehrmacht blitzkrieg style on the ground.
    2. +3
      13 July 2024 08: 27
      in the hands of a skilled pilot, 110 was on the horizontal as if no more maneuverable than 109
      - it seems like they tried to fight air battles on verticals in the Second World War.
      1. +1
        13 July 2024 23: 59
        The one who had advantages on the verticals had the opportunity to force this battle on the enemy.
  3. +7
    13 July 2024 05: 18
    Quote: Victor Biryukov
    German army led by Chief of the General Staff Hans von Seeckt
    After WWI, there was no General Staff in Germany
    1. +6
      13 July 2024 06: 05
      Hello honest company!
      Even though Bf. The 110 proved unable to match single-engine interceptors; it became the Luftwaffe's most valuable night fighter, remaining in service until the end of the war in Europe.

      Probably, after all, the priority was night fighters based on Junkers-88.
      1. +7
        13 July 2024 07: 35
        Schnaufer flew the bf110, achieved 121 aerial victories, and became a major at the age of 22.
        And there’s nothing to become about.
        Unfortunately, today they are like this in all sections.
        1. -1
          13 July 2024 08: 24
          Schnaufer flew the bf110, 121 aerial victories, became a major at the age of 22

          Victory over a heavy and clumsy bomber, even if accompanied by equally heavy fighters, is not such a great victory. Although, of course, he is undoubtedly an...
          1. +7
            13 July 2024 09: 11
            “the victory is not so great” - Heavy bombers did not fly alone, and when dozens, or even hundreds of machine guns are firing at you at the same time... well, in general, you understand.
            1. +2
              13 July 2024 16: 35
              Quote: Sergey Valov
              Heavy bombers did not fly alone, but when dozens, or even hundreds of machine guns are firing at you at the same time...

              They were escorted by equally heavy fighters overloaded with mounted tanks. Besides, before you start shooting, even if, as you say, simultaneously with dozens, or even hundreds of machine guns, then first you need to see an object at which you can shoot. And since Messerschmitt Bf. 110 After a series of failures during daytime interceptions, it was reborn as a night fighter, and could only be seen at night.

              But here I am Messerschmitt Bf. 110 had its own on-board guidance system using locators and the same on-board heat direction finder, which were quite successfully used in the dark. On top of everything else, I’ll also add an identification device here. friend or foe. Thus, upon encountering this aircraft, the losses of heavy bomber aircraft of the British and Americans became so noticeable that at some point the air command for some time even abandoned the practice of massive night raids in Germany...
              1. +3
                13 July 2024 16: 53
                Everything you write is correct, but I was talking about something else. What I mean is that shooting down a heavy bomber is not a simple task, and certainly not characterized as “not so great.”
                Well, so, a small quibble - the tanks are not MOUNTED, but SUSPENDED.
                1. +1
                  13 July 2024 17: 00
                  Quote: Sergey Valov
                  I’m talking about the fact that shooting down a heavy bomber is not a simple task, and certainly not characterized as “not so great”

                  During daylight hours - yes! But at night it is still difficult for the shooter to see the object. And here Messerschmitt Bf. 110, using his on-board locator paired with a heat direction finder, he could easily see a heavy bomber and attack it at the right moment...

                  Quote: Sergey Valov
                  The tanks are not MOUNTED, but SUSPENDED.

                  Yes, it's a mistake...
                  1. +2
                    13 July 2024 17: 17
                    "Yes, a mistake." - It happens.
                    “I could easily see a heavy bomber and attack it at the right moment...” - easy in theory, in life everything is different. Even now, night interception is a very difficult job, but now imagine that you have a very slight advantage in speed, very crude and unreliable radar equipment, that in order to confidently hit a target you need to get within a hundred meters of it, that a sea of ​​fire pours out in response, that you can’t aim according to the radar sight of that time, this meant shooting “in that direction.”
                    You can try to look up the literature and see the ratio of enemy losses during day and night raids. But this is not a five-minute job.
          2. +3
            13 July 2024 09: 19
            In my understanding, the easiest thing in a night battle is to shoot down; night aerobatics and search are much more difficult.
            1. +2
              13 July 2024 16: 39
              Quote: mr.ZinGer
              In my understanding, the easiest thing in a night battle is to shoot down; night aerobatics and search are much more difficult.

              In case of Messerschmitt Bf. 110 using a guidance system with a locator and a heat direction finder, detecting bombers in the night sky was relatively simple, just as simple as shooting them down...
      2. +2
        13 July 2024 16: 14
        the priority was the non-219 ear, a very good night interceptor
  4. +4
    13 July 2024 05: 58
    It is a curious fact that, despite the enormous talents aimed at improving all kinds of technology, a fully developed entire people “did not notice” that, as a result of WWII, they would have to pay reparations until the end of the 20th century and sit quietly, like mice...
    And suddenly money comes from somewhere and no one needs to pay anything.... Isn’t it strange?
    But in the end, such idiocy led them to disaster. And all their talents and works and lives went down the drain.

    A similar idiocy, only topsy-turvy, engulfed the Slavic peoples of the USSR in the 80s... They took and ruined their own country, and each individual is simply a daredevil and a great fellow...

    It turns out that the human herd has no intelligence at all, although individual individuals can be the smartest. Very interesting fact.
    1. +1
      13 July 2024 06: 13
      The Americans gave loans so that Germany could pay reparations, and not because some Jew-Masons had already come up with something, but because the United States had a real surplus of dollars after WWII and had to put them somewhere.
      Well, von Seeckt is a great guy, he was in worse conditions than our Defense Ministry in 90 of them, however, he thought and acted, although the Germans believe that his turn didn’t work out, but if what didn’t work out well, what did they even need.
    2. Alf
      0
      13 July 2024 18: 48
      Quote: ivan2022
      It turns out that the human herd has no intelligence at all, although individual individuals can be the smartest.

      Just don’t say this phrase in front of Shpakovsky, he already tells everyone that he has come up with a formula about 80%... and 20% who are smart, and, of course, he counts himself among the 20%... It’s surprising that he even deigns to communicate with us...
  5. +7
    13 July 2024 06: 51
    Equipped with a radar, which of course deserves a separate article, this aircraft (option G-4) turned out to be a very effective night interceptor, but the external radar array and external fuel tanks on board created serious aerodynamic drag and significantly limited the maximum speed of the aircraft. Below, in one of the photos, the squadron emblem is clearly visible - the dog is holding a stocky dog ​​in its mouth And-16. In another photo, engine exhaust flame arresters and a radar array are clearly visible...

    P.S. Topic - German aircraft industry in the interwar period, which the author took on, is undoubtedly interesting and bold, about which you can write and write, only it is implemented, no offense to the author, in one place...
    1. +1
      13 July 2024 11: 00
      One such plane made an emergency landing in Switzerland, and the Germans were preparing an entire operation to destroy it in a neutral country.
      1. +4
        13 July 2024 16: 43
        Quote: mr.ZinGer
        One such plane made an emergency landing in Switzerland, and the Germans were preparing an entire operation to destroy it in a neutral country.

        To prevent the valuable and secret locator from falling into the hands of the allies, they exchanged this car for 12 pieces Messerschmitt Bf109... wink
  6. +7
    13 July 2024 07: 03
    made a request for a new multi-role fighter with a long flight range. This is how the Messerschmitt Bf fighter-bomber appeared. 110, also known as Me-110.

    So it appeared? By the wave of Goering's magic wand?

    low wing monoplane,

    Maybe still the bottom one?

    with an extended and glazed canopy, in

    Other writers call it a lantern...Google translation, huh?

    This aircraft had similar armament to the A-0, but carried two 20 mm MG FF cannons

    Same thing, but guns...
    Why this article? Wikipedia has a more detailed description.
    Why is it not written about why the 110th became a night fighter and that it successfully hunted our Po-2s? I don’t see the point in this article on VO
  7. 11+
    13 July 2024 07: 09
    The tail was mounted above the rear of the fuselage and had end stabilizers and rudders. The wing was a single-spar structure with slots on the leading edge and flaps on the trailing edge. The main landing gear elements were retracted back into the engine nacelles, and the tail wheel was folded at the rear of the fuselage.

    Why did the author take on a topic that, firstly, has been discussed in detail many times, and secondly, about which he knows absolutely nothing. Hence all the machine translation nonsense like
    The tail was mounted above the rear of the fuselage and had end stabilizers and rudders. The wing was a single-spar structure with slots on the leading edge and flaps on the trailing edge. The main landing gear elements were retracted back into the engine nacelles, and the tail wheel was folded at the rear of the fuselage.

    There are no slots in the leading edge of the wing. The Bf 110 had automatic Handley Page slats installed on the leading edge of the wing, occupying 40% of the span. A slotted flap and aileron were installed on the trailing edge of the wing.
    Immediately after World War I, the German army, led by Chief of the General Staff Hans von Seeckt

    Von Seeckt was not the chief of the general staff; there was no such structure in Weimar Germany; he was the chief of the ground forces (Chef der Heeresleitung).
    1. +3
      13 July 2024 19: 09
      Quote from Frettaskyrandi
      There are no slots in the leading edge of the wing.

      English ears stick out. Obviously in the original it was Leading-edge slat.
    2. 0
      13 July 2024 21: 24
      Quote from Frettaskyrandi
      There are no slots in the leading edge of the wing.

      Allow me. And what do all the wing cannons and machine guns shoot through?
      1. 0
        14 July 2024 17: 32
        No matter what. The trunks protrude beyond the dimensions of the leading edge of the wing.
        1. +1
          14 July 2024 17: 54
          Not always. Here are three examples, Hurricane, Wildcat, Devuatin-520.
          1. 0
            14 July 2024 19: 27
            You are absolutely right, there were exceptions.
  8. +2
    13 July 2024 07: 23
    For WWII aviation I recommend airpages.ru. You won’t regret it!
    1. Alf
      0
      13 July 2024 18: 49
      Quote: andrewkor
      For WWII aviation I recommend airpages.ru. You won’t regret it!

      Yes, and Airvan is not bad.
      1. Alf
        +1
        13 July 2024 19: 01
        Quote: Alf
        Quote: andrewkor
        For WWII aviation I recommend airpages.ru. You won’t regret it!

        Yes, and Airvan is not bad.

        Airvar.
  9. +5
    13 July 2024 09: 18
    “22 Wellingtons attempted armed reconnaissance of the Heligoland Bight” - everything in this phrase is charming, both armed reconnaissance and reconnaissance with 22 vehicles, i.e. by squadron forces. And everyone says artificial intelligence, artificial intelligence. Here he is before us in his pure form.
    1. Alf
      +5
      13 July 2024 18: 50
      Quote: Sergey Valov
      And everyone says artificial intelligence, artificial intelligence. Here he is before us in his pure form.

      Usually artificial intelligence is used when there is not enough of it.
    2. +3
      14 July 2024 03: 59
      Actually, this was an attempt to attack German battleships in the Heligoland Bight.
  10. -1
    13 July 2024 10: 28
    A dubious concept, very mediocre combat effectiveness, and no price/quality ratio at all. But they produced it until the end of the war, which means they saw the point. Our “Pawn” was apparently created based on.
    1. +4
      13 July 2024 16: 25
      very mediocre combat effectiveness

      We've arrived. The most effective night fighter in history, although not the most technically advanced.
      no price/quality ratio at all

      Is there anything to compare it to?
      1. -1
        13 July 2024 16: 47
        very mediocre combat effectiveness

        We've arrived. The most effective night fighter in history, although not the most technically advanced.
        no price/quality ratio at all

        Is there anything to compare it to?

        I don’t know his performance numbers. You can compare it with the same Bf-109. The issue price is 90 and 210 thousand marks, respectively.
        Now figure out who you want to meet in the sky, one 110 or two 109. Even at night. wink
        1. +3
          13 July 2024 17: 01
          In the second half of the war, the Germans had a problem with pilots, among other problems.
          The concept of a night fighter at that time meant that the pilot piloted using instruments and needed a radar operator to relieve him of the workload.
          A significant part of the night fighters were from the remaining ones not the lot of daytime “destroyers” - that is, they found use for already produced machines
          Converting 110 to night is much easier
          The flight range of the 110 is noticeably higher than the 109. This is important for a night light

          From all this it is clear that the 110th is much more effective as a night fighter
          1. -3
            13 July 2024 20: 19
            In the second half of the war, the Germans had a problem with pilots, among other problems.
            The concept of a night fighter at that time meant that the pilot piloted using instruments and needed a radar operator to relieve him of the workload.
            A significant part of the night fighters were from the remaining ones not the lot of daytime “destroyers” - that is, they found use for already produced machines
            Converting 110 to night is much easier
            The flight range of the 110 is noticeably higher than the 109. This is important for a night light

            From all this it is clear that the 110th is much more effective as a night fighter

            I doubt its effectiveness as a fighter in general.
            It's heavy. He is big. He's clumsy. Weapon? Foka is no worse.
            From the memories of our pilots about meeting him, we got the impression that they perceived him more like a bomber. We were afraid, yes, but there is no comparison with 109. There is immediately a full-fledged air battle.
      2. +1
        15 July 2024 08: 04
        The most successful night fighter in history

        Is there anything to compare it to?

        With nothing. Only the Reich faced massive night raids.
        albeit not the most technically advanced.

        If you remember all the flying masterpieces of that war, only the B-29 did its job. To some extent, the early Japanese. The 110 was a normal aircraft in its niche. Not great, not terrible.

        Great was acceptable P-61. Well, to whom did he give up such a handsome man?
        1. 0
          15 July 2024 14: 00
          Masterpieces generally rarely make a decisive contribution.
          And so the 8VA bombers achieved the most noticeable result in that war, much more significant than the 29th
          And the 110th simply carried out a terrible bloodletting, but had no chance of stopping the air offensive
          Great was acceptable P-61. Well, to whom did he give up such a handsome man?

          Mosquito, Eagle Owl
    2. Alf
      +3
      13 July 2024 18: 53
      Quote: Arzt
      Our “Pawn” was apparently created based on.

      Brilliant! Opening ! But as one nation says, “there are nuances” - no one has been hiding the Pe-2 redesign of the Vi-100 high-altitude fighter since the 19 shaggy year. Even officially.
      1. -1
        13 July 2024 20: 09
        Brilliant! Opening ! But as one nation says, “there are nuances” - no one has been hiding the Pe-2 redesign of the Vi-100 high-altitude fighter since the 19 shaggy year. Even officially.

        Where did VI-100 come from? From sharaga TsKB-29. They pulled them all out of the camps, brought them to Radio Street, and flew planes from Germany.
        Here are samples for you guys, do the same, or better yet. laughing

        “At the Air Force Research Institute, our pilots transported from Germany the Junkers Yu-87 and Yu-88, the Messerschmitts Me-109 and Me-110, the Dornier Do-217, the Heinkel-111, the Henschel attack aircraft, and a liaison officer. “Fiesler-Storch” and “Focke-Wulf” frame, presented to us, perhaps not without a second thought: “Look what we are going to beat you with.”

        L. Kerber. "And things were heading towards war"
        1. Alf
          0
          13 July 2024 20: 11
          Quote: Arzt
          Brilliant! Opening ! But as one nation says, “there are nuances” - no one has been hiding the Pe-2 redesign of the Vi-100 high-altitude fighter since the 19 shaggy year. Even officially.

          Where did VI-100 come from? From sharaga TsKB-29. They pulled them all out of the camps, brought them to Radio Street, and flew planes from Germany.
          Here are samples for you guys, do the same, or better yet. laughing

          “At the Air Force Research Institute, our pilots transported from Germany the Junkers Yu-87 and Yu-88, the Messerschmitts Me-109 and Me-110, the Dornier Do-217, the Heinkel-111, the Henschel attack aircraft, and a liaison officer. “Fiesler-Storch” and “Focke-Wulf” frame, presented to us, perhaps not without a second thought: “Look what we are going to beat you with.”

          “At the Air Force Research Institute, our pilots transported from Germany the Junkers Yu-87 and Yu-88, the Messerschmitts Me-109 and Me-110, the Dornier Do-217, the Heinkel-111, the Henschel attack aircraft, and a liaison officer. "Fiesler-Storch" and "Focke-Wulf" frame, presented to us, perhaps not without a second thought: "Look what we are going to beat you with."

          L. Kerber. "And things were heading towards war"

          Actually, everyone knows this too.
      2. +3
        13 July 2024 20: 17
        Brilliant! Opening ! But as one nation says, “there are nuances” - no one has been hiding the Pe-2 redesign of the Vi-100 high-altitude fighter since the 19 shaggy year. Even officially.

        Yeah, you can safely cross yourself out of 80% and include yourself in 20%... according to Shpakovsky. Your pearl is higher than Alpha, I was especially pleased - it’s been a long time since you dragged “professors” into the cage by the pants. It's so nostalgic!!!
        Now to the point.
        Just like the Pe-3 fighter prototype of which took off in August 1941. I gave a report on the Pe-3 back in school, based on a 1959 book about aviation.
        1. Alf
          0
          13 July 2024 20: 23
          Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
          Yeah, you can safely cross yourself out of 80% and include yourself in 20%... according to Shpakovsky. Your pearl is higher than Alpha, I was especially pleased - it’s been a long time since you dragged “professors” into the cage by the pants. It's so nostalgic!!!

          It's good to mock! I just can’t stand boors who have fanned fingers and put themselves above people.
          Once Nashe Vse wrote that there was an order from 41, according to which our pilots must bomb and fire at our retreating units. When I asked him to confirm THIS with something, Caliber at first began to make excuses like “Covid and no one goes outside.” This was in the year 20. When I started asking him again after the end of the plandemic, he first “just about”, “already now”, and then silently disappeared.
          1. +1
            14 July 2024 15: 01
            I'm not making fun of Alphas, I'm making fun of them. I remember this story, as well as several others - in which Vyacheslav Olegovich did not behave in the best way.
            Five years ago, I stopped fighting him and began to criticize him on the merits. Before this, this was done by Zhenya Funk, Anton Badenov and Viktor Popov. Now many people do this, and Shpakovsky, oddly enough, has begun to value the opinions of forum members. At least the game of “throw a stone at the professor” has long since sunk into oblivion. Why stir up the old? Today Vyacheslav is one of the five VO authors who does not shy away from feedback and one of the three admits his mistakes. Being a self-deprecating person, I know that this is worth a lot.
            With sincere Alpha, respect to you!
            R.s. I have been reading your comments for many years and have never noticed any bloodthirstiness in you. So, without any deletions, the comment about the plane was essentially valuable. hi
            1. Alf
              +1
              14 July 2024 19: 52
              Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
              I'm not making fun of Alphas, I'm making fun of them. I remember this story, as well as several others - in which Vyacheslav Olegovich did not behave in the best way.
              Five years ago, I stopped fighting him and began to criticize him on the merits. Before this, this was done by Zhenya Funk, Anton Badenov and Viktor Popov. Now many people do this, and Shpakovsky, oddly enough, has begun to value the opinions of forum members. At least the game of “throw a stone at the professor” has long since sunk into oblivion. Why stir up the old? Today Vyacheslav is one of the five VO authors who does not shy away from feedback and one of the three admits his mistakes. Being a self-deprecating person, I know that this is worth a lot.
              With sincere Alpha, respect to you!
              R.s. I have been reading your comments for many years and have never noticed any bloodthirstiness in you. So, without any deletions, the comment about the plane was essentially valuable. hi

              In general, there is nothing to answer. I silently agree.hi
  11. +5
    13 July 2024 10: 51
    Quote: Luminman
    Schnaufer flew the bf110, 121 aerial victories, became a major at the age of 22

    Victory over a heavy and clumsy bomber, even if accompanied by equally heavy fighters, is not such a great victory. Although, of course, he is undoubtedly an...

    The destruction of a bomber is the main task of a fighter.
    Let's take the B-29
    Bombs: free falling:
    40 × 227 kg
    12 × 454 kg
    8 × 907 kg
    4 × 1814 kg
    1. +2
      13 July 2024 16: 51
      Quote: Zufei
      The destruction of a bomber is the main task of a fighter.

      If we talk about Messerschmitt Bf. 110, then as a night fighter it exceeded all expectations, cracking British and American bombers like nuts. I'll quote myself again:

      Quote: Luminman
      Thus, when meeting with this machine, the losses of heavy bomber aircraft of the British and Americans became so noticeable that at some point the air command for some time even abandoned the practice of massive night raids in Germany...
  12. +2
    13 July 2024 12: 48
    Quote: Nagan
    Somewhere I saw information that in the hands of a skilled pilot the 110 was no more maneuverable on the horizontal planes than the 109. A small turning radius was achieved

    There's no escape - the masses are spread apart (engines). I think the Germans realized in time and used the Me-110 not as a pure fighter, but as a light bomber or a night fighter (you can still fly bombers). hi
    1. Alf
      +1
      13 July 2024 18: 56
      Quote: fa2998
      I think the Germans realized in time and used the Me-110 not as a pure fighter,

      At the end of 40, when the Battle of Britain ended and the Luftwaffe command made money. Although no, even during the Battle, when the order was issued to cover the covering Me-110 bombers with Me-109 fighters...
  13. +2
    13 July 2024 12: 55
    Quote: Zufei
    Let's take the B-29

    I think 29 more fought in the maintenance, more than 17 fought against the Germans, and the British with their fleet.
    RS. So the British mainly used night bombing. hi
    1. 0
      13 July 2024 13: 09
      More precisely, the main American bomber was the B-24 Liberator. Superfortress, yes, was not used in Europe. Unless she flew to England to be photographed as part of the enemy’s disinformation.
      1. +2
        13 July 2024 16: 15
        More precisely, the main American bomber was the B-24 Liberator

        Was not. 8VA had 27 B-17 groups versus 21 B-24 groups.
        1. -1
          13 July 2024 16: 25
          Long talk.

          But as you say, a fortress is a fortress.
          1. 0
            13 July 2024 16: 27
            But how do you say

            What? That's all? Are you sick?)
            1. +1
              13 July 2024 16: 29
              I have to look by dates, but I'm too lazy. The release of the liberator was higher, the range/load ratio was better, so Spaatz's materiel probably changed over time.
        2. +1
          13 July 2024 18: 48
          B-24 18800 pieces
          B-17 12700 pieces
    2. +1
      13 July 2024 18: 43
      I have never seen information about the B 29 in Europe.
      1. -1
        13 July 2024 22: 09
        As far as I remember, he was taken to Europe to show off to German intelligence. Now you can’t search by hand.
  14. Owl
    +2
    13 July 2024 15: 38
    "7–9 mm machine gun MG 17" - machine gun caliber 7,92 mm
    1. +5
      13 July 2024 16: 08
      7–9 mm MG 17" machine gun - machine gun caliber 7,92 mm

      The author of the article did not even edit the machine translation, so the comma became a hyphen. Disgrace
      1. Alf
        +6
        13 July 2024 18: 58
        Quote: Konnick
        The author of the article did not even edit the machine translation, so the comma became a hyphen. Disgrace

        Don't shoot the pianist, he plays as best he can. Although...it would be better not to play at all.
        1. +2
          14 July 2024 04: 03
          Well, some craftsmen even have no hands on the piano....)))
          1. Alf
            0
            16 July 2024 19: 13
            Quote: Grencer81
            Well, some craftsmen even have no hands on the piano....)))

            Not in this case...
  15. +6
    13 July 2024 15: 56
    Quote: Cartalon
    The Americans gave loans so that Germany could pay reparations and not because some Jewish Freemasons were already

    A very simplified, like a “housewife” understanding of the situation with reparations.
    Read the memoirs of Hjalmar Shakht ("Chief financier of the Third Reich"), everything is written there extremely frankly (the% of German bankers of Jewish origin was quite high under Hitler).

    “Whenever I tried to get through to a minister or a crowned person, a Jewish secretaire blocked my way at the door. Without their consent, I could not get through to those in power. Therefore, I came to the conclusion that it was they who owned power in Europe.”
    G. Ford.
  16. -4
    13 July 2024 18: 16
    Quote: Dutchman Michel
    That's exactly what is in the hands of a skilled pilot! A skilled pilot could easily cope with Messerschmitts in an old I-16. But only the skillful one

    Well, yes, I managed it easily, but how can it be with a difference in speed of 100 km/h and in the weight of a second salvo of 10?
    You have a nice avatar, it really suits you.
    1. +2
      13 July 2024 18: 38
      Your comments are so stupid that it’s impossible without enlightenment! The hand just reaches out to hand over the ABC or send it to primary school first. wink
  17. -3
    13 July 2024 18: 21
    Quote: ivan2022
    It turns out that the human herd has no intelligence at all, although individual individuals can be the smartest. Very interesting fact.

    Tell me, which one do you consider yourself to be, the first or the second?
  18. Alf
    +6
    13 July 2024 18: 41
    For the next three years, no major Allied bomber force entered German airspace during daylight.

    The command of the 8th and 9th US Air Forces laughed loudly somewhere...
    1. +1
      14 July 2024 04: 06
      But the crews weren’t very good...They weren’t laughing. And not everyone could make 25 combat missions.
      1. Alf
        +1
        14 July 2024 19: 54
        Quote: Grencer81
        But the crews weren’t very good...They weren’t laughing. And not everyone could make 25 combat missions.

        But the fact remains that they flew and did not ask permission.
        1. 0
          18 July 2024 03: 25
          There was an order, so they flew. Failure to comply with combat orders was punished in the US ARMY.
    2. MSN
      0
      16 July 2024 16: 56
      The command of the 8th and 9th US Air Forces laughed loudly somewhere...

      From December 1939 to 1943, and this is the beginning of the US strategic air offensive in Europe “in daylight”, how many years have passed?
      1. Alf
        +1
        16 July 2024 19: 20
        Quote: MSN
        The command of the 8th and 9th US Air Forces laughed loudly somewhere...

        From December 1939 to 1943, and this is the beginning of the US strategic air offensive in Europe “in daylight”, how many years have passed?

        A counter question: when did the US Air Force Strategic Command become firmly established in Britain? Just at the end of '42. We sat, looked around and began to roll the Reich into rubble. And they flew where and how they wanted.
        And British bombers can be called strategists, well, with a very big stretch.
        1. MSN
          +1
          16 July 2024 20: 24
          A counter question: when did the US Air Force Strategic Command become firmly established in Britain? Just at the end of '42. We sat, looked around and began to roll the Reich into rubble. And they flew where and how they wanted.

          I don’t understand why this counter question is needed, but oh well. For 42 years, aircraft were transferred across the ocean with a loss of about 5% (10% was expected - heavy losses during a combat mission); in 1943, massive daytime raids began. How many years have passed since December 1939?
          As for flying wherever they wanted. Raid on bearing factories in Schweinfürth and Regensburg in August. 36 Fortresses were shot down in the raid on Schweinfurt (16% losses - unacceptable losses) and 24 Fortresses were shot down in the raid on Regensburg. Raids on Germany have been stopped. Until October. In October, a new raid on Schweinfurt - "Black Thursday". Of the 291 Fortresses, 77 were shot down - 26,4%. Until the appearance of the Mustangs, the heart of Germany was no longer invaded.
          1. Alf
            0
            16 July 2024 20: 27
            Quote: MSN
            I don’t understand why this counter question is needed, but oh well.

            Well, just say that the British didn’t meddle.
            1. MSN
              +2
              16 July 2024 20: 40
              Well, just say that the British didn’t meddle.

              From December 1939, the failed Wellington daylight raid, until the summer of 1943, the beginning (and rapid end) of mass daylight raids passed three and a half years . The article talks about three years of bearing. The article is translated crap, of course, but you can do the math in the comments. Slowly and calmly.
  19. +1
    13 July 2024 20: 55
    Quote: Dozorny severa
    Quote: Dutchman Michel
    That's exactly what is in the hands of a skilled pilot! A skilled pilot could easily cope with Messerschmitts in an old I-16. But only the skillful one

    Well, yes, I managed it easily, but how can it be with a difference in speed of 100 km/h and in the weight of a second salvo of 10?
    You have a nice avatar, it really suits you.


    And why in the dispute should we switch to personalities, names and avatars? This does not add authority to you.
  20. +1
    13 July 2024 20: 57
    Quote: Dutchman Michel
    Your comments are so stupid that it’s impossible without enlightenment! The hand just reaches out to hand over the ABC or send it to primary school first. wink


    It doesn’t even make you look “like that” yourself. Although you weren’t the first to start.
  21. +3
    13 July 2024 21: 05
    Another attempt by the author to pass off a machine translation as his own work?
    Dear administrators of the Military Review website, please introduce the option to “downvote” articles!
    1. 0
      14 July 2024 04: 08
      It would be better to rewrite articles from USSR aviation magazines like “Wings of the Motherland, etc.
  22. -4
    13 July 2024 21: 15
    It turned out to be a very bad fighter.
    1. Alf
      -1
      14 July 2024 19: 55
      Quote: Victor Sergeev
      It turned out to be a very bad fighter.

      It’s not so much that the fighter turned out to be bad, but the concept turned out to be flawed from the very beginning.
  23. 0
    22 July 2024 17: 39
    It’s just not 110 shit for the Germans to brag about laughing
  24. 0
    15 August 2024 10: 56
    Britain and Germany developed radars,

    Why did you forget the Frenchies? The British pioneered the centimeter magnetron in already defeated France. They were exported through Switzerland and Spain. “The Cross of Biscay was also of French production and design.”
  25. 0
    15 August 2024 11: 02
    Polish Air Force monoplanes with high wings and

    That's how Stirlitz burned himself laughing! It’s bad when the author is, as they say, “off topic.” Translated into technical Russian, this is a parasol monoplane.
    I understand that the author is not a reader, but could Murzilki for primary school age be skimmed through?
  26. 0
    15 August 2024 11: 10
    Quote: Victor Sergeev
    It turned out to be a very bad fighter.

    You know, I beg to differ with you. In my opinion, the 110th was ruined by the characteristic German desire for perfection and excess capabilities. Instead of simply changing the engines on the old man, they first started with the 210th, with which they made not even a school, but just a kindergarten mistake by not understanding the alignment and efficiency of the tail. When they fixed all this on the 410th, it was already too late to drink Borjomi.
    By installing late modifications of the 110xx Daimler-Benz on the 6th, it was possible to get a completely combat-ready airplane, and most importantly, get it on time.
    In general, if we digress from the topic, then probably not a single country participating in a war has wasted so many resources in search of perfection.