A new modification of the Su-30SM2 fighter with the AL-41F-1S engine will go into production starting next year

Russian Su-30SM fighters will receive new engines similar to the Su-35S and Su-57 fighters of the first series. This was stated by the chief designer of the Su-30 project Oleg Pankov.

Russian Su-30SM multirole fighters will receive AL-41F-1S engines instead of AL-31F, Russian designers adapted the aircraft to the new engine, this was preceded by a long period of solving technical problems and testing. Su-30SM2 fighters with the new engine will go into production next year.

We will get increased climb rate, turning radius and engine life. I think this will go into series next year

- Oleg Pankov said in the “Military Acceptance” program on "Star".

The appearance of a new modification of the Su-30SM fighter was reported in 2020; the Ministry of Defense gave permission for the first flight of the Su-30SM2 prototype with the AL-41F-1S “product 117S” engine. As reported, the new Su-30SM2 will receive the AL-41F-1S engine, the on-board electronics, radar, optical location station will be improved, and the set of weapons will be expanded. According to the plans of the Ministry of Defense, the entire existing fleet of Su-30SM fighters will be upgraded to the level of the Su-2SM30.

Let us recall that as part of the import substitution program, the Adaptation-Su R&D project was launched on the basic Su-30SM. During this R&D, it was initially planned to strengthen the fighter’s armament and change the avionics. In this form, the aircraft received the designation Su-30SM1. However, it was then decided to maximize the unification of the Su-30SM and Su-35S. The variant with the installation of AL-41F-1S and the Irbis radar, coupled with previously made changes, received the Su-30SM2 designation.

Comments

[rosomaha]

this is from yesterday's Military Acceptance...
and as for the moderation of the 30th...O/E container (such as Sniper or Lightning) when will it be in the series? Yes, 34 and it wouldn’t hurt to modernize the O/E complex in terms of all-weather capability, round-the-clock availability and range.
NU and on the basis of the Su30 an air defense suppression aircraft is needed - an analogue of the Growler

[PROXOR]

NU and on the basis of the Su30 an air defense suppression aircraft is needed - an analogue of the Growler

How many copies have already been broken, why do we need the 30th and 35th, which are similar in parameters. So this is who is stopping us from making tankers, PP and other equipment based on 30x, which our airborne forces need like air.

[bayard]

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So who is stopping us from making tankers based on 30x,

The Aerospace Forces already have tankers based on the Su-24M, they have been around for a long time. And almost every Su-24M can perform these functions. As an attack aircraft, the Su-24M is hopelessly outdated, but as a tanker it can still serve.
However, I think that with the appropriate outboard equipment, any combat aircraft can be used as a tanker; this was originally intended for them.

[Serge9901]

As soon as we invent a breakthrough engine, we get a brilliant airplane. (The production culture is completely absent, totally.) There is hope that with MS it will be exactly the opposite.

[abrakadabre]

Eh... They should write how much the new engine will improve the aircraft's performance. Well there: speed, rate of climb, efficiency/combat radius...

[VladimirNET]

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New modification of Su-30SM2 fighters

Quote: abrakadabre

They would write how much the new engine will improve the aircraft's performance.

I don’t know about the engine, but M2 detects targets at a distance 2 times greater, as a result, the patriots they discovered were ALREADY destroyed.

[bayard]

An increase of 2000 kgf. on afterburner will definitely add both the rate of climb, and maneuverability on turns, and actually the maximum speed. And the resource of 4000 engine hours is much more than 2500 engine hours for the Su-30SM. And the efficiency and combat radius may not change much.

[abrakadabre]

It seems they write that specific fuel consumption is lower. And this is another plus in the characteristics

[bayard]

Quote: abrakadabre

They write that the specific fuel consumption is lower.

If there is such a thing, then the difference is insignificant. The main goal of such modernization is almost twice the time between overhauls. The increase in thrust is also a pleasant bonus, but the main thing is the service life and uniformity of the engine for all heavy Tactical Aviation generation 4++ aircraft. At the moment, all the engines on the Su-30SM, Su-34 and Su-35S are different, and it is for the sake of eliminating this zoo out of the blue that these replacement of engines on the AL-41F-1S was started. Unification and simplification of logistics, maintenance, provision of spare parts and consumables, training of aviation technical personnel. And all the other “pluses” are a pleasant bonus, because they chose the best one available as a single one.

[Zaurbek]

It's called "Zoo".
In reality, all Sukhoi need to be reduced to a single Su30SM2 (or better yet, a two-seat Su35S) and an targeting container should be adopted.
Su35S will be replaced, one way or another, by Su57
Su34 is a dead-end branch and, for good measure, we need to make “Growlers” out of them
Su30SM" should be built en masse and then modernized again with components from the 57th.

[bayard]

Quote: Zaurbek

Dry ones need to be reduced to a single Su30SM2 (or better yet, to a double Su35S)

Su-30SM2 is a two-seat Su-35S - same engines, avionics, radar.

Quote: Zaurbek

Su35S will be replaced, one way or another, by Su57

No, the Su-35S will serve, and the regiments that fly the old Su-57SM27 will be re-equipped with the Su-3.

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Su34 - dead-end branch

There are no dead ends - the most popular strike aircraft of the VKS, purchases continue and increase. On the Su-34M it is necessary to re-equip the regiments on the old Su-24M as soon as possible.
Regarding the "Growlers", specialized hanging containers have been created for the Su-34 and Su-30SM\SM2. So these containers (RTR and electronic warfare) are enough for videoconferencing. There are no “Growlers” in the US Air Force either; everything is solved with hanging containers for attack aircraft. And in the Navy, since the F-18 could not carry such containers on slings alone, they made a specialized modification of the two-seat Hornet with built-in and suspended equipment.

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Su30SM" should be built en masse and then modernized again with components from the 57th.

Su-30SM and SM2 go to the regiments/brigades of Naval Aviation, so Naval Aviation must be filled with them. And yes, we need a modification of the Su-30SM3 with avionics and ballistic missile systems from the Su-57, as is already done on the Su-35SM.

[Zaurbek]

1. The Su35s has the most advanced airframe and the newest one.
2. What is the Su34's use for? Throwing bombs from the UMPK? It doesn't even use its OLS sighting station. The Americans made the single F15EX and use it.

[bayard]

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1. The Su35s has the most advanced airframe and the newest one.

Yes, this is still the same T-10, slightly improved. Its feature is better and more durable engines, a much more powerful and advanced radar, a very good visual sensor and a very good avionics. Converting its glider into a two-seater would disrupt the alignment and reduce the fuel supply. If you need a two-seat glider based on the T-10, then the best of them is the Su-30SM glider. Which has a two-seater cabin, but without compromising range and maneuverability. Moreover, it is in mass production and all that remains is to integrate avionics into it, and it would be best to have the radar and avionics from the Su-57 at once, but so far only the Su-30SM2 version with engines, radar and avionics from the Su-35S is ready for mass production . Therefore, the Su-30SM2 is exactly the aircraft that you want. Starting next year - in mass production.
But the Su-35 is also preparing for a series (or rather, as they say, already on the stocks) - the Su-35SM - with the Belka ballistic missile system (AFAR) and avionics from the Su-57. So I think the Su-30SM3 (with the same equipment) is also not far off.

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2. What is the demand for Su34? Throwing bombs with umpk? He doesn't even use his OLS sighting station.

He used and enjoys everything. Especially in the first phase of the SVO. And VERY active. And FABs ironed the Armed Forces of Ukraine from low level, and used various guided weapons, and was very actively (and effectively) engaged in suppressing air defense. It’s no joke - the Soviet legacy of THREE air defense armies and the military air defense of the three best Soviet military districts was destroyed in a year and a half. And also most of the air defense systems of the entire Warsaw Pact and a bunch of other systems collected around the world. You apparently have no idea of ​​the scale of the work already done. The guys on the Su-34 fly several combat sorties a day. They have already surpassed all Soviet records for combat sorties during the Second World War... It’s just that we have one and a half orders of magnitude fewer aircraft involved, so the boys fly very often. And they already have such combat experience... And it is very correct that they were banned from flying over enemy territory. Now they work from safer distances, but at the same time much more effectively. Thanks to the FAB with the UMPC and the new KR. But the plane turned out to be very good, the pilots love and appreciate it very much - for its combat capabilities and armored cabin. And it has very good potential for modernization.
And if you were right, then the Su-30SM\SM2 would now be built not only at its main plant, but also at the Chkalov Plant. Instead of Su-34. But orders for the Su-34 have increased several times, the rate of their production has increased several times, and new engines and new avionics will make it even more advanced and dangerous.

[nordscout]

Dear Oleg Pankov! Is it possible to start implementing all this in "marble and bronze" earlier? After all, it is the third year of the war? And a completely different war "looms" on the horizon..... Under the respected I.V. Stalin, you would hardly have dared to make such a "bold" statement regarding the timing of the introduction of new military equipment. The Leader's intent gaze into your eyes would quickly return you to the reality of what is happening and the expected prospects....

[Wodan]

You either take off your cross or put on your panties.
Under Stalin, such news would not have reached you. And if you voiced your complaints publicly, as here, then they would reach you. And a closer look would return you to the reality of what is happening. Not for long.

[nordscout]

Wodan, about the "cross and underpants" - that's good of you... Let me note that you still haven't understood the ESSENCE of what I wrote... I'll "chew it over" for you personally: in the years when the country is at war, the question of distant plans for the implementation and introduction of new military equipment should not arise, by definition... Which was the case during the Great Patriotic War.. Well, since now this "news" reaches the ears of the average person, it means there is an opportunity to express your attitude to it... And I don't think that the indignation of the population of a warring country regarding the introduction of new military equipment into service would have outraged the Leader, but rather the opposite... Read the history of the Great Patriotic War...

[Denis812]

Because there is no war.
Go out to Arbat or Lomonosovskiy or somewhere else. There is no war there.

[nordscout]

Dear Denis812! Arbat and Lomonosovsky are not all of Russia that is not at war.... Go to the Russian hinterland, visit the local "graveyard" - you will see with your own eyes that a bloody war is going on... The flower and gene pool of the nation is dying... And as for the fact that there is no sense of war in the capital, well, you are in the wrong place... Try to find out about it "first hand", in the same capital, at the address: Staraya pl., 4, tel.: [phone]. There, they will probably explain to you intelligibly everything that is known about the war and what you should know about it....

[Denis812]

You will see with your own eyes that a bloody war is going on... The color and gene pool of the nation is dying... And the fact that in the capital there is no feeling of war, then you are in the wrong place... Try to find out about this first-hand

A week ago I was in the town of Slantsy, Leningrad region. A week and a half ago I was in Ryazan.
There is no feeling of war there.

[Whowhy]

We will get increased climb rate, turning radius and engine life. I think this will go into series next year

It seems like everyone is trying to reduce the turning radius...

[UAT]

I also noticed this. Is it really the chief designer who is so stupid or did the journalists get it wrong?

[Romanenko]

We will get increased climb rate, turning radius and engine life. I think this will go into series next year

Is an increased turning radius a positive characteristic of a fighter aircraft?
Or are the scribblers messing around again?

[Zaurbek]

The most correct option is to make it right away - a two-seater Su35S. This is the newest and most progressive glider from the T-10x