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Tales of Chapai ... or how history is ridiculed

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Tales of Chapai ... or how history is ridiculedAbout the artistic series “Chapay Passion”, it would be correct to say the following: the film itself is just as illiterate as a mess.


That is, just as the citizens who had not learned enough, having watched Tarkovsky's film "The Passion for Andrei", decided that this expression meant "The exciting adventures of Andrei", and not "The Passion of Christ as presented by Andrei," historical sources who read Wikipedia at best.

And the rest of the space is crammed with the usual serial hack. That is, the authors reached the nearest stamp or the nearest subject “approximately on the subject” - and popped it into the frame.

... In the office of the chief of the Cheka there are chairs from the nearest "Coffee House". On his desk is a vintage 1960-x lamp from a nearby club. The Red Army men are walking in suits, cropped in the nearest dressing room about Civilian - do not care that they could not be dressed like that in the described period. The demon of the revolution, Trotsky, with a huge wax nose, behaves as if information about himself was drawn from the literature of the “Memory” society. And when, in response to his order to surrender command, Chapaev (a professional military man, by the way) begins to cry that his legs were wiped out, and to quote the Golden Calf, written by 10 years later, on the subject “Academies have not finished” - Trotsky is not even laughs, and fiercely boom, like a psychopath of some kind.

Why? And because the most primitive demonic personality in the view of serial lazhemetchikov looks like that.

Why does Chapaev thump up and run after the women like mad, and these women — all as one in hysterics? Because the series, to think once, it is necessary to cut the loot, let's African passions about drunk Russian debauchery.

Why does Chapaev seem to be like a peasant from under Cheboksary, but speaks like a graduate of GITIS? Damn, but because he is a graduate, a serial workaholic, he has no time to retrain for peasant talk, he needs to cut the loot, and in the evening he will play with the same voice of an honest investigator.

Why, by the way, is the language of the heroes not even pretending to be the national language of a century ago? But because the screenwriter, about whom we are going to talk separately now, has no time to be credible. He has two more shows for the year, about Stalin and about Peter Leshchenko.

Why is the Cheka still just being born, and already nothing human, rapes everything, hits blood and shoots? And because it’s in all TV shows, I think this forever sexually preoccupied shaved-headed Chekist, who can only crave other people's women, shoot men at a flaky wall and beat real heroes in the balls, is always performed by the same actor.

Why does Commissioner Furmanov shoot Chapaev in the back? But because in the series the love triangle has to be intrigue, and a jealous commissioner is the same stamp as a lustful Chekist.

Why did they decide to make a film about Chapaev? And what, the untwisted brand and is bad.

... Now - about the main responsible director of this impassable lazhi is Sergey Shcherbin, and before that he filmed the unknown to me series “Russian Double”, “Loner” and “Highway Patrol 2”. And the writer of this impassable lazhi is Volodarsky Edward. And over the past decade, he has presented us with such hellish breakthroughs in Russian art, such as Ordinary Bolshevism, Inhabited Island, Shtrafbat, and Life and Fate.

And last year he died.

But, despite his death, this year we will have two more shows on his scripts:

1) "Peter Leshchenko." Since the singer P. Leshchenko was sitting - there is no doubt that shaven-headed security officers would beat him in the balls, and a lot of him, the Leschenkovskys, would fight women in hysterics.

2) "Son of the Father of Nations." If this is about Jacob Stalin, then there skinheads will beat some of his comrades, and a bunch of his former women will fight hysterically. And if about Vasily Stalin, then again a bunch of women will fight hysterically, and skinheads will probably beat the pilots and football players.

... And all this is not only because Edward Volodarsky, who died in the 72 year of life, like all the creators of his generation who were carefully nourished by the Soviet regime, was a stupid anti-Soviet.

He was hardly him when he wrote scripts for “His among strangers”, “Check on the roads” or “Ivan Lapshin”.

It’s just that a lot of water has flowed since then, and the creators, who have thoroughly traded themselves and turned, acquire something like an indifferent creative frigidity.

That is, all learned movements are repeated, but completely without taste and without involvement.

They don't care.

Therefore, the actual national history in the film “HRO” is about the same as the ancient history in the French classicist play from the life of Arcadian shepherds and naiads.

She, the story, is represented there in the form of several stilted characters from the “commedia de arte” of the anti-Soviet era. Tragic Hero-Lover - once; Merry, and at times the Evil Crowd - two; Lustful Chekist - three; Jealous Commissioner - four. Desperate to Kill a Russian White Officer - five.

At the same time, it is clear, by the way, that this time the leadership who felt the change in the wind (either the studio or the channel) explicitly asked the screenwriter and director not to go too far with the White Chimera. That is, do not overly breed admirals and ruddy gymnasium students, do not whip up the crunch of the pre-revolutionary French loaf and do not divide the sides into officers in white and unshaven sailor. In order, so to speak, to achieve historical reconciliation.

But the creators understood in their own way. That is, they grunt - and instead of devout white 1990's, they pulled out of the naphthalene brutal royal Cossacks from Hollywood musicals about pogroms. Apparently, they wanted to balance.

The result was even worse than it was: the red “HROs” came from anti-Soviet classicism, and the whites came from anti-Russian.

That is, because of what these two kinds of negative Russians are fighting - from the picture can not be completely disassembled.

... Well, and more. All this terrible crap, I mean "Chapay Passion", to the masterpiece of the Vasiliev brothers "Chapaev" has the same attitude as to the "Passion according to John" by I.S. Bakh.

Victor Marakhovskii



A few days ago I watched a new television series from the first channel "Chapay Passion". In general, I do not enjoy watching such products, because of its traditionally low quality. And if we are talking about historical subjects, experience suggests that the product will be filled with ideological slops to the whole. This is despite the fact that officially there is no ideology in modern Russia. In fact, ideology, of course, is, and this is an ardent militant anti-Sovietism. So the films are shot so that the citizens do not forget what a totalitarian hell life was in the USSR, and how well they live now. However, the creators of modern domestic film production manage to squeeze the topic of horror of KGBism everywhere, even in the film about Ivan the Terrible. There are suspicions, if the first channel undertakes to put a plot about the Stone Age, then the theme of the mayhem of the domestic special services will be fully disclosed.

Well, here the acquaintances advised - a new series about Chapaev was released. And the series is good, truthful: for once, red is shown by normal people, whites are shown by ghouls and gangsters, historical events are reflected more or less adequately. And in general, the fact that the main state television channel turned to such a figure as Chapaev, already says a lot. It is said - done, tormented by known doubts (see above), began a thoughtful viewing.

The action begins in 1906 year: the future legendary divisional commander, lives on the Volga, works as a carpenter and turns love with his bride. If someone has forgotten, 1906 is the year in Russia - this is the peak of peasant uprisings, which almost grew into a civil war. A time when peasants massively rebelled, making up 85% of the population of the then country. They rebelled in response to growing hunger and poverty, powerlessness, progressive reforms that aggravated their extremely difficult lives. And the good king responded to these speeches with such terror, in comparison with which all the so-called Stalinist repressions are babbling. 1906 is a year in Russia - this is the time when the gallows stretched along the roads in orderly rows, when martial courts were introduced in peacetime in the country. Many people think that the so-called troika, that is, the state bodies of extrajudicial reprisals, were invented by Stalin in the year 1937. In fact, the tsarist government actively applied them already in 1906 year. But in the series, of course, this is nothing.

In the series, we are shown idyllic pictures of Russia, which we lost (s) (tm). Only not with balls, champagne and the crunch of the French roll, as in the movie "Admiral", but in the image of a cheap popular Russian hinterland. How do ordinary Russian people live at the beginning of the century? Perfectly! - the authors answer, - they live peacefully, work honestly, do not live in poverty, dress well, eat and drink heartily, and honor the Orthodox faith. The theme of religion is generally revealed richly - heroes begin to be baptized furiously after every second replica, there is a kind father - with a wise humble glance and the same speeches, and indeed the entire first series revolves around the construction of a new church.

Looking at this idyll it becomes decidedly incomprehensible - why, all of a sudden, in just ten years, such a prosperous country will fall into the abyss of chaos and bloody chaos? Not by itself, not from the accumulated contradictions in society! Not from crying social inequality! Not from spreeing in Paris for some and hunger for others! After all, nothing on the screen is viewed in principle. So why? A well-known thing, the authors answer, is from the Bolsheviks. From them, damned, all the troubles in Russia! Here and there, a revolutionary Bolshevik in the form of the brother of the protagonist is introduced into the plot. What is he doing? Underground agitation? Rallying people to fight for justice? No, a revolutionary without drinking drank moonshine and darkly promises to arrange a slaughter after the seizure of power. It is clear that this is a stupid dangerous degenerate. For who else may desire the destruction of the revealed grandeur?

Further the plot is transferred to the years of the First World War. Carpenter Vasily Ivanovich Chapaev, like many of his compatriots, is sent to the front to fight the Germans. As we remember from history, there was no particular interest for Russia in that war. Unlike 1941, nobody attacked us, the tsarist government pulled the country into world war, following the lead of its own exorbitant ambitions and demands of Anglo-French lenders-investors. The first successes of our troops at the front quickly and naturally ended, because in the course of achieving these successes a cadre army with the available materiel was knocked out. And if the loss of personnel could be filled with new calls, then weapon and ammunition for replenishment was nowhere to take. Because there were no strategic reserves in the event of a big war in the country, and there was absolutely not enough own industrial resources to compensate for the losses.

Few people know, but already in 1915, the question of arming new rifle units with halberds was seriously discussed in the State Duma due to the acute shortage of rifles. A year later, the tsarist government was forced to pay for the military supplies of the allies, sending its soldiers as cannon fodder to France. Actually, now known stories about “one rifle for three” in the years of the Great Patriotic War, they are just based on the real facts of the First World War that were rewritten for the needs of the dominant anti-Soviet ideology.

Not better things were in the Russian army and with food, uniforms. And this at that time, as officials and capital speculators shamelessly profited from supplies for the front. And the life in the rear worsened in a catastrophic way, where millions of peasant families were forced not only to survive without breadwinners, but also to maintain a multi-million fighting army. So, the army, without having a proper supply and looking at what is happening in the country, after a vigorous start and first successes, began to lose ground and roll back deeper into its territory. Is it any wonder that such a situation very quickly led to a social explosion and catastrophe?

What is the royal army in 1916, the Chapaev TV series? In the series about Chapaev in the army - everything is fine. All are well armed, well-fed and clothed, Russian troops do nothing but attack and beat the enemy. True, soldiers occasionally recall fallen comrades and their families, who have a hard time without breadwinners in the rear. Officers always sit in a dugout, nobly cut into cards and lead political discussions. And all would be nothing, but once again revolutionaries-Bolsheviks muddy the water, confusing honest subjects of the Orthodox power, ready to lay their heads for the tsar and the fatherland endlessly.

Imperceptibly, the fateful 1917 year is sneaking up. The February coup takes place in the country. What is the February coup, also known as the February Revolution? This fall in monarchy in Russia, caused by the aforementioned misfortunes and contradictions, which have torn apart the country for decades and became extremely acute during the war years. But Tsar Nicholas himself and his entourage at the end undermined the authority not only of his own, but of the Russian monarchy in principle. As a result, the entire progressive public unanimously demanded the abdication of the king from power. Renunciation was demanded by the State Duma, demanded by the generals, but ahead of them was the Orthodox Church, which earlier itself anointed Nicholas to the throne. All these beautiful people betrayed their monarch, above them and the country set by God. And the monarch meekly accepted their demands and thus also betrayed - both his traitors, the people, the country, and God. What is characteristic, then about any Bolsheviks, as about influential political force, the speech then was not. The Bolsheviks at that time were a small, little-known faction within the Social Democratic Party. The most famous leaders of the Bolsheviks were either in exile or in exile and did not actively participate in politics.

What were the consequences of the February coup for Russia? The consequences, without exaggeration, were catastrophic. After the liquidation of the monarchy by the government itself, the interim government declared itself. Staying in a revolutionary frenzy, it quickly ruined the old order, the authorities, the life support systems of the country, but could not create anything in return. So in a matter of weeks, real power in the territory of the former Russian Empire did not become in principle. The warring army was completely demoralized and deprived of control. As a result, already in the summer of 1917, the front cracked at the seams, a massive desertion began. And the interim government itself, instead of restoring elementary order in the country and the army, instead of solving the most pressing issues, has been mired in petty political intrigues. By October, despite the fact that Russia was still in a state of war with Germany, there was no one to fight, the front was ruined, and the country itself did not even fall apart, but in general went into disperse. Independence was declared not by territories and provinces, but by districts and individual villages. It was in such conditions that the Bolsheviks took power.

Is it somehow reflected in the show? Not. At some point, we are shown credits with something like “February 1917 of the year, the monarchy fell,” followed by a scene of soldiers rally at the station, where a certain citizen (presumably, again, the Bolshevik villain) pushes the need for an immediate end to the war. The rally immediately dispersed Cossacks. Meanwhile, Chapaev returns from his leave to the front. How are things at the front? Everything is the same as before. There is no mess, no loss of discipline, no mass desertion, no absurd liberalization of the army (when commanders choose personnel, he decides by voting whether to go on the attack today or not). According to the series, all these charms begin strictly after the scene in which officers in the dugout discuss with horror news - They say a coup in Petrograd, the government was overthrown by the Bolsheviks, the country was gone!

The conflict in the army is shown here - all the soldiers are strictly for the Bolsheviks, all the officers are strictly against. Although in reality, after the October Revolution, the officers of the old army were divided into three approximately equal parts - those who actively supported the Bolsheviks, those who spoke out strongly against, and those who chose to withdraw from politics. Among the soldiers, however, there were supporters of not only Bolsheviks, but also Mensheviks, Socialist Revolutionaries, anarchists. But in the series everything is strict, as stated above - the soldiers are in favor, the officers are against. Why is that? Obviously, because the creators of the first channel, while filming a historical series, do not bother to read at least school textbooks on history. Instead, they continue to stupidly copy what was once seen in Soviet cinema, richly seasoning it with “their own vision”.

Further along the plot begins a civil war. How is the war on the show? Good Reds - from ordinary Russian people, they fight with evil whites, which are represented by non-Russian Cossacks and a little - by former officers. So that it was immediately visible who is who, both of them from the first days of the war are dressed strictly uniformly: red - in the field uniform of a protective color, white - in white uniform shirts. It seems that it is known that for the first year and a half the civil war is going on in a devastated country with a ruined economy, regular armies are not formed, there is a trouble with supplies. Look, as shown on the screen, the troops will be much later, when the reds more or less restore the economy in the territory under control, and the whites finally move to the maintenance of their best friends, in fact - the owners, from abroad. And before that, guerrilla groups, both dressed and armed, are fighting on both sides, who are ready for anything. It is known that the mass of ordinary fighters on both sides wore sandals, not having any boots or shoes. But in the series everything is strictly the opposite - the fighters are politely dressed in a new uniform, and the sandals appear in the frame exactly once - and then they hang around the neck of a drunken red army man. At the same time, in the dialogues of Chapaev with his superiors and subordinates, complaints are constantly heard about the lack of all the most necessary. However, the screen does not reflect this at all. The feeling is that during the filming costume designers, property man and screenwriters worked without intersecting at all.

So, for most of the series, we are shown Chapaev’s participation in the civil war. What, on the show, is this participation expressed? Maybe the legendary commander commanded the troops, organized the command, mastered the commander's science? Oddly enough, no. The serial Chapaev leads the troops into battle exactly three times over the course of nine episodes of 50 minutes each. The rest of the time he whips moonshine, indulges in sexual debauchery and beats off the snares of the ghouls commissars whom the party imposes on him. On the topic of commissars, security officers and other horrors of Bolshevism - a separate conversation, below. And Chapaev, in rare breaks between these occupations, falls into hysterics like a pregnant woman, giving out howls from the series: “Why did the church get ruined, the Herods ?!”, “What should I feed the troops - rob the people again ?!” and so on. Obviously, according to the authors, a true hero, a talented commander and favorite of soldiers, behaves in this way. However, the fighters in the series are not far behind the commander.

There was such a Soviet director Sergei Bondarchuk, who was distinguished not only by his great talent, but also by a wealth of life experience - he was a native of the peasants, he went through the Great Patriotic War as a simple soldier, communicated with people, and saw everyone. He approached work responsibly, M. Sholokhov’s novel “They Fought for the Motherland” filmed extremely carefully and close to the text. Thanks to all this, he became known as the creator of a number of the most powerful and war films. That is why the Russian soldier looks like a Russian soldier, the commander - the commander, in the war - everything is in its place, everyone is busy, all normal living people fighting for a just cause, for their land, for loved ones, for the Motherland. Therefore, his films look truly and deservedly loved by the people. Looking at what is happening in the films of Bondarchuk, it becomes really clear who our ancestors were and why they were able to break the backbone of the invincible fascist beast, behind which stood all the power of continental Europe.

It is quite another thing the current rulers of thoughts. They did not serve in the army, they didn’t see a living commander in their eyes, they don’t care for the material, weave it abundantly, seasoning it with their sick fantasies. As a result, the legendary Chapay from them is a hysterical drunk and a libertine, instead of fighters and commanders, a gang of clowns, instead of a nationwide feat and a nationwide tragedy, complete confusion and clinical nonsense. Who is fighting with whom, for what, who the Cossacks are, what they want, why they are repairing indecency is absolutely not clear.

The red thread runs through the series the story of the misfortunes of the noble maiden. The daughter of a colonel aristocrat, she is first declared a revolutionary, after which she is immediately linked to the war with her father-officer, to kill those same revolutionaries. In the first battle he is captured, after which he again recalls his revolutionism and jumps into bed at Chapai. Next, she gets into the dungeons of the Cheka, where she is vilely raped by a ghoul, a security officer, and behind him - in general, all who feel like it. As a result, the young lady again finds herself in the Chapayev troops, where she must be arrested and shot again - for the wrong origin and murder of the ghoul-investigator.

And here the legendary divisional commander is revealed to the full - the young lady is no longer interested in him, because by this time he is cohabiting with the wife of his commissioner. So that the young lady is not seized by the bloody security officers, he persuades her to flee to the whites, and with her inclines to the desertion of the Red Army lover in love. What white men will do with the young lady, when half the country is already aware that she is Chapaya's lover, the division commander apparently does not think. Nor does he think about what information she would give the enemy about his troops. Instead, he shares the scorching revelations that the revolution is not a struggle for a just cause and a better life, but only the dirt and blood that it, the revolution, has broken for him all his life.

In general, judging by the motives and behavior of the characters, the script was written by a teenage girl. Here and the behavior described above Chapaya. Here and experienced opera from the Cheka, who in the midst of the interrogation of the counterrevolutionary breaks down to declarations of love and, wringing his hands, asks: “Tell me, do I have at least some chances ?!”, and then gets drunk and dirtyly rapes her lover. Apparently, according to the authors, the Chekists were engaged in precisely this - rape, torture and beating of detainees, mass executions of innocent people, abuse of official position.

Special mention deserve the commissioners. Military political workers in the series - only vile filth, cowardly and vile. Instead of performing direct duties, commissioners are engaged in strictly weaving intrigues, sabotage and the satisfaction of personal ambitions. Commissar Zakharov - scum and psychopath. Commissar Furmanov - scum and nothingness, not able to control not only the troops, but also his own wife. Because of his wife, by the way, he shoots Chapay in the back in the midst of the battle, because of her, without a respite, he scribbles slander on the divisional commander.

Somewhere in the middle of the action, Trotsky, chairman of the Revolutionary Military Council, appears in the frame. Honestly, I personally never had any particular sympathy for Lev Davydovich himself, nor for his activities both before and after his overthrow from the Soviet political Olympus. But at the same time, an objective historical fact: his merits in the establishment of Soviet power are significant. It is also known that by the end of the civil war in popularity and prestige, he was slightly inferior to Lenin alone. It is also known that Trotsky was a powerful orator and a subtle psychologist, enjoyed the glory of the “demon of revolution”, and was able to competently hold and pump up the audience at rallies and meetings. What is Trotsky on the show? Muddy nasty hog in a leather coat. Standing on the podium in front of the fighters, he eats a watermelon and spits seeds in the nearby colors. It is strange that, contrary to the established tradition, they did not show Stalin, who was rushing around the Kremlin corridors with a bloodthirsty hoot in search of another innocent victim.

In general, looking at the screen, this impression is created. I remember that recently they tried to convince us that in the Great Patriotic War, the people won in defiance of the communists and Stalin personally, who in every way interfered with the people. The creators of the series “Chapay Passion” seem to have decided to broaden and deepen this subtle thought. They and in the Civil War, won the people strictly in spite of the machinations of the Bolsheviks. It is possible to list other ingenious finds of the creators of the series for a long time, but it’s quite enough to formulate a certain idea.

Do I have to watch this circus? If you are a normal person, you respect your country, history, the memory of ancestors - you should not watch this categorically. Instead of historical cinema - watering the national hero with mud, instead of a meaningful action - stupid and wretched teenage fantasies. It is better to review the old Soviet film about the legendary commandant. Although it is black and white, and filmed almost eighty years ago, it still looks quite decent. Unlike squalid crafts of the first channel.

Alexey Slavin


As recently as yesterday, the IN was a discussion of the intentions of V. V. Putin to publish a single textbook on the history of Russia. Many and vigorously discussed this news. However, no history textbook, even the best and the most correct, will help as long as such articles are displayed on our screens. The dominance of the series, of course, many alarming. But one thing is when fictional characters like “My Fair Nanny” or “Matchmakers” become the heroes of the series, and quite another thing when in this format we are trying to impose illiterate and perverted “historical” events. "Chapay Passion", just from the category of such completely mediocre and harmful serials that show the "author's" interpretation of history. And most likely, not even the history (who is it interesting, really?), But digging in the dirty linen of historically great people. And was it the dirty laundry that we were shown? Most likely, these are just uncovered ambitions of hacks from the cinema. To the need of the viewer. It’s not for nothing that everybody is so popular: “Let them say,” “You won’t believe,” etc. It became interesting for people to delve into someone else’s dirty laundry, it’s probably easier for them to forget their problems ...

V.I. Lenin also said: “You must firmly remember that cinema is the most important of all arts for us” (from Lunacharsky’s memoirs). This thought is shared by many now. Look at Hollywood. The "factory of dreams", with all its ambiguity, strictly adheres to certain rules ... About America is either good or nothing. Albeit not true, but for the benefit of America: “Save Private Ryan,” “Armageddon,” “Red Heat,” and many others. I do not call to make films on Hollywood themes, I just want to finally watch NORMAL films! In which the police, and not the cops, in which the soldiers, and not a gang of idiots, drug addicts and drunks, in which the folk heroes, and not invented ersatz directed by ghouls and jerks. Such as: "Police Sergeant", "Soldier Ivan Brovkin", "They Fought for the Motherland", instead of: "Capercaillie", "Soldiers", "Scum". It is useless to create the right textbooks until the order is fixed on our television and movie screens. And especially in historical productions. Pseudohistory, flavored with truth-like "facts", will do more harm than outright lies, or even ignorance!

Technical implementation of the film, let it remain on the conscience of hacks. To discuss the shown "division" in the size of a company (at best), even as it is boring. Or Cossack hundreds (not one!) Consisting of 20 people in shaggy goat hats stretched over their eyes (it is likely that the same faces of "hundreds" of Cossacks would not become familiar in different frames). About the appearance of the warring, already enough said above, I will not repeat.

Imagine what children in the subject of Chapaev can write in their essays? "Furmanov shot Chapaev in the back, out of a feeling of jealousy" - there is no such thing even in numerous anecdotes ... Children of the present who, unlike us, did not read Furmanov. Who did not watch the real movie "Chapaev", and not this pathetic hand-made article about the 12-series. When, once again watching the final shots of the film about the heroic divisional division, we squeezed our fists from impotence with tears in our eyes, and to the last hoped that Chapay would swim!

You know ... I began to dream of censorship ... And for a long time.

Pavel Khmelnitsky
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  1. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 23 February 2013 07: 27
    +8
    The series sucks, hack work in its purest form, and not just hack work, it is a targeted campaign to discredit everything that was connected with the revolution, civil war, and generally with the Soviet government.
    1. yak69
      yak69 24 February 2013 01: 16
      +5
      Article +!
      The authors of the series wish the endless diarrhea - so that there is no time left to shoot!
      And censorship is really needed.
  2. skrgar
    skrgar 23 February 2013 07: 47
    +6
    I + put the article., Without even really reading to the end, only for now these final words "You know ... I began to dream of censorship ... and for a long time." More about our series and nothing to add ...
    1. Alan
      Alan 24 February 2013 19: 08
      +2
      skrgar,
      And I think the main conclusion of all this is the words - "It is useless to create the correct textbooks until order is put in order on our bodies and cinema screens"
      Other handicrafts (their language cannot be called films) cannot be called anything other than sabotage !!! Yesterday "White Tiger" was trying to look exactly forcing myself, I thought maybe I didn't understand what the author might be trying to convey something with allegories, but he didn't understand anything, maybe it's just not given to me .......
  3. BARKAS
    BARKAS 23 February 2013 08: 13
    +3
    I downloaded the series from the Internet a few months ago, I watched only the first series and the second one I didn’t go over the seraglio, I was completely crazy if I were lying professionally! negative
  4. Mihaylo Tishayshiy
    Mihaylo Tishayshiy 23 February 2013 08: 46
    +1
    I didn't see the beginning of the series, I got only to the second or third episode, didn't watch the episode until the end, spat and switched the channel - it's freezing nonsense. How did the First Channel fail to show this "SHEDEVR" in its entirety today - February 23? What a gorgeous gift for Defender of the Fatherland Day!
    1. tupolev-95
      tupolev-95 23 February 2013 10: 26
      +2
      And how did they show "School"? New Russian films do not hold a candle to old Soviet films, and TV series generally
  5. does it
    does it 23 February 2013 08: 53
    +3
    go well! intelligentsia!
    1. Atlon
      23 February 2013 08: 58
      +3
      Quote: kvirit
      go well! intelligentsia!

      Kapelevtsy. Officer Regiment. By the way, with such an attack, they terrified the red fighters. In combat, under the drums ...
      1. urich
        urich 23 February 2013 23: 42
        +1
        Note that the “psychic” attacks of the white men famous in the Chapaev film without a single shot were not undertaken at all from a good life, and not just to impress the opponent. One of the main reasons for this was the lack of white ammunition.
        http://topwar.ru/2144-pochemu-kolchak-ne-doshel-do-volgi.html только вот сегодня прочитал...
      2. Nagaibak
        Nagaibak 25 February 2013 07: 27
        +1
        Atlon "Kapelevtsy. Officer regiment. By the way, with such an attack, they terrified the red soldiers. With a marching step, to the drums ..."
        White officers on the Eastern Front did not have enough officers to scatter them like that.
        Kapelevtsy were workers of the Izhevsk and Votkinsk factories who went to the Reds near Varshavyanka.
  6. Fox
    Fox 23 February 2013 08: 55
    +4
    Quote: vladsolo56
    TV series sucks

    Duc, modern serials, which does not suck, there is enough to count the fingers on one hand ... it's not about censorship. I look at the consultants, everyone has military, academic ranks ... that's where the wind blows from. And we rivet only "great martyrs" . need good films, good computer games, work in schools and kindergartens. but the customer (preferably the state) should already shake the performer. and now: what is the pop-such is the parish.
  7. Averias
    Averias 23 February 2013 10: 00
    +2
    To our great regret, only serials about bandits and gypsies work out, there is both scale and scope. It is understandable, the urks threw themselves on the TV series or the gypsies. A striking example of this, "the famous film" Brigade ", this is necessary, not only that it was shown twice in a row. So what is the moral of this film? They say here are the Russian people, an example to follow, here is your authority and everyone should be on him How, I ask, how a film that promotes organized crime groups, banditry, racketeering, drugs, became a "cult" film. And after all, the money was cut for it - how much stunned, and the sequel was also removed.
    A series about combat swimmers, for example, watch to tears insulting and disgusting. It seems that the idea is good, but the execution is darkness. Well, where does it fit - in one of the series, the heroes stand in the forest near the Urals (cars), shoot a sniper (who is not clear to anyone), they conclude that this is a sniper, and ....., and continue to stand poking trunks in different sides!?!?! And is it special forces? I would be in the place of real combat swimmers - I would be seriously offended, I don’t respect professionals like that.
    And about Chapaev, of course, yes, it’s not at all clear what. As soon as I saw the riders in uniform with a needle, all my desire beat off to look further.
    Why bother shooting such a thing? And the point here is not in historical justice (although this is also), if you do not, then at least serve it in a beautiful and high-quality "wrapper". Like Hollywood in the movie "Kingdom of God", lies at every step, but at least the shooting is of high quality.
    And here, where not to spit, one cheap thing.
  8. riding
    riding 23 February 2013 16: 13
    +4
    You can’t categorically watch historical series on our TV, like most new feature films. There is an episode in the book of N. Latypov and Wasserman: they ask the screenwriter why, they say, it is so godless to distort the truth in your filthy creation. She answered: the artist, I can, as I see, do so. Now artists with a sick imagination and hatred of the Soviet past in blood are in demand, and they pay it. And Kolchak is noble among them, and that in Siberia the peasants who opposed him were flogged by villages and chopped off the heads of Soviet teachers, and looting was a trifle. And a crackling voice asks the former noblewoman, who miraculously lived up to the 60s, at the daughter of the party boss: what have you done, the people didn’t grieve under the tsar, and you overthrew him into the abyss of poverty. And the heroes of the Second World War in new films and series perform feats contrary to the system: they torment them, they offend their relatives, and they, true patriots, endure and commit unthinkable acts for the sake of their homeland.
    As long as they are paid, they are indestructible. They will stop paying, you look, they will find something more sympathetic in the hated Soviet past. Corrupt and corrupt craftsmen.
    1. Ascetic
      Ascetic 23 February 2013 16: 24
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      Quote: koni
      Now artists with a sick imagination and hatred of the Soviet past in blood are in demand, and they pay it.


      Alas, who pays the girl and dances. And the state is so far in disagreement. on the one hand, attempts are being made to revive patriotism and pride in their history. on the other, all this is completely leveled by liberal ideology and the same economy where the Golden Taurus ideal dominates.
  9. dmb
    dmb 23 February 2013 20: 50
    +2
    One Russian friend of mine says: "Who loves the ass, and who loves his wife's ass." This is how he understands the Russian proverb: "Who loves the priest, and who will get it." I mean, people have different tastes. However, this does not mean that the films of Ursulyak and Volodarsky can be watched. Of course, "everyone can offend an artist." But in my opinion, there are two indisputable cases when he is obliged to create with an eye to public opinion. First, this is when he creates at the expense of the budget, and second, when it comes to significant events in the life of the country and its people. An example is the image of Zhukov. Practically, except for Ulyanov, no one played it. And this Zhukov could serve as a symbol of Victory. Could Zhukov, depicted by the undoubtedly talented director and actor Menshov in the notorious "Liquidation", serve as such a symbol? A tyrant clown, with a stool intelligence. Well, whose image is more true, given the role of Zhukov in the Patriotic War? And now the "hardest" question; why did it take to show "such" Zhukov? As well as such Chapaev.
  10. Cossack23
    Cossack23 24 February 2013 01: 53
    +2
    poor communists

    and the movie shit spat on the telly and didn’t watch - it’s such a feeling from him that white fought with prisoners and women, and they’re red, what a force
  11. Region65
    Region65 24 February 2013 08: 22
    +2
    over the past 20 years, our series have been driving the whole nation into the head hard that our state and our population consists of only two types of people - BANDITS and CENTS) because we have series only about those or about others))))) biological species appeared. Chapai)
  12. Yaik Cossack
    Yaik Cossack 25 February 2013 20: 29
    +1
    In February 2013, with the support of Channel 1, the series of the director Sergei Shcherbina was released according to the script by Eduard Volodarsky “Passion for Chapay”.

    In addition to the terrible historical cranberries adventures sexually preoccupied V.S. Chapaya and miserable battle scenes of koi are more similar to budget development than to battles; there is nothing shown to the viewer about etching Cossack and Russian peoples, no other historical realities of that time.

    What does the Minister of Culture of the Russian Federation R.Medinsky think when he skips films that incite national and social (class) discord? In the series, the Yaitsky Cossacks of the "Cossack" are shown as mass murderers of the entire living Russian population, and in no episode with the Cossacks there is a plot (motive) and some kind of logical explanation for the same "bestial fury" of the Cossacks, which the director screenwriter and producer pushed to the audience. Who benefits from a clash between the Russian and Cossack people? On what grounds did the heroes of the revolution raise to the shield through the 1 state channel, who atoned for millions of representatives of the peoples of the Russian Empire in the blood and buried other millions of “Soviet” people for the sake of their misanthropic ideas?

    Why is the Russian state whitewashing the red bandits of the Bolsheviks today and pouring blood on the foam and bogeyman of the killers and looters of the representatives of the Cossack and Russian peoples who got in the way of Russia distraught from Marxism-Leninism in the early 20th century? Why are Cossack people exposed by Kremlin ideologists as a flayer and a killer of Russian people? Or the specialists and consultants of this film do not know the national composition of the Workers 'and Peasants' Red Army and what it did on the lands that fell under its boots? Or is the modern Russian government a criminal gang of workers and peasants (RKKA) organized under the leadership of the International on February 23, 1918 - now a model of the modern Russian army? Maybe Mr. Medinsky is not aware that the regular army in the Russian state appeared during the reign of Ivan 4 the Terrible and it would be worthwhile to think about what dates to set as a model for the army of the Russian people?

    At the beginning of the 20th century, one of the few who stood in the way of the Workers 'and Peasants' Red Army was the Cossack people, all of its military territories. One of the most affected Troops was the Yaitsk (Ural) Cossack population, which was exterminated by 70% as a result of the war and rummaging. Then, the Cossacks stood up not only to protect their lands in the east of the Russian Empire, but also to protect its statehood. Judging by the KAZAKOPHOBIA that the state pushes in the series Passion for Chapai to the Russian audience, this is a fair generous pay to the “Pogo, gendarmes and murderers”.

    In light of this, it is understandable why the authorities in Moscow so openly encourage and nurture the acts of the Register as an internationalist mankurt-vile entity, into which, under the law on Cossacks, citizens of the Russian Federation who have reached the age of 18 years can enter. Indeed, in such an international education, you can warm up and then use a gang of gunners, murderers and looters calling this gang a Cossack.

    Nationalist Cossacks of the Free Cossack Movement appeal to all sensible political forces and, in particular, to Cossack organizations and communities - to respond to the informational and ideological war unleashed by the first state channel of the Russian Federation against the Cossack people, historical justice and stop the flows of Cossophobia that are splashing through the media RF

    We now understand why the state denies the Cossacks the right to national identification. This state needs an international Cossacks as a ranger and a killer without historical roots, its own national history, traditions, and customs. Some forces in Moscow need a gangster bogeyman under the ethnonym Cossacks to pit peoples.

    prisud.com/2012-03-21-08-20-41/press/41--200213.html

    Press Service of the Free Cossack Movement (VKD)
    1. Atlon
      27 February 2013 10: 21
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      Quote: Yaitsky Cossack
      Press Service of the Free Cossack Movement

      A strange phrase "Cossack people". However, the protrusion of their belonging has always been characteristic of the Cossacks.
  13. Gur
    Gur 1 March 2013 13: 42
    +2
    But was the Cossacks not international ?? Is it a nationality and not a way of life? It’s strange how a nationalist writes a Cossack .... this is something that I don’t go to Cossacks along the way, it seems like there is no such law that would not let me go to Cossacks ....
  14. free
    free 10 November 2017 09: 27
    +1
    Hats off the author! hi
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      Revival 24 June 2020 03: 18
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  15. Revival
    Revival 24 June 2020 03: 17
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    Very interesting, thank you very much !!!
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