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Almost everyone has heard about the special forces, but very few people know for sure what the special forces mask is hiding behind them.

Blood, sweat, pain, self-overcoming ... But people see only spectacular shots of lightning military operations, and what is behind this facade knows only the special forces fighter himself. These are thousands of field exits, jumps, shooting, climbing the mountain, diving under the water ...

There are no passing and casual people in the special forces, and the beaten-up phrase “the best of the best” is a fact in this case.

Initially, after the creation of special forces, the main task for them was to detect the means of a nuclear attack of the enemy, as well as tracking their movement and transferring data to the command in order to deliver a preemptive strike if necessary. The number of the first special forces was a little more than 5-ti thousand people, who, before getting into these troops, served in military intelligence, and went through more than one war.

But what is a "special forces"? Today in our country, the definition of “special forces” means such a number of units belonging to various departments, ranging from the Emergencies Ministry and even to customs, that the initial meaning of this term relating to the Main Intelligence Directorate is very vague.

In fact, special forces for their intended purpose can be divided into three groups. First, these are the units that are engaged in conducting reconnaissance, as well as conducting sabotage, deploying a partisan front in the territory of the enemy. These are precisely those army or naval special forces units from which everything actually began.
The second group includes those whose concern is the fight against organized crime and terrorism. This is the special forces of the police or state security structures.

And finally, the third group can be called a purely Russian invention. It may include those who were created without a specific definition of their tasks, for example,
Special Forces VV or Ministry of Justice, Office of Special Forces at the Presidential Security Service, etc.

Without false exaggeration, we can say that special forces are the people who are the elite of the Russian army, the people who truly serve their country.

And this is quite natural. Today, mankind has entered such an era of warfare, when the methods of warfare have completely changed. Today, there has already been a tendency not to physically destroy the enemy, but to undermine its military power from within. And it is he who provides the special forces. It was he who was primarily entrusted with the task of destroying particularly important objects, both at the front line of the enemy and in his rear, by aiming at these objects aviationpsychological operations, etc.

Modern story knows a lot of facts when special forces, both before and during hostilities, contributed to the operations and the end of the conflict. And the growth of terrorism in the world gave a new impetus to expand the functions of special forces.

The experience of local wars has shown that the special forces success is a small number of people, combined with excellent preparation, audacity, surprise, initiative, speed, coordination, and skillful use of percussion capabilities, modern military equipment, taking into account the terrain properties and even a certain time of day. with weather conditions.

The units of special forces possess in their arsenal equipment, weapons and vehicles that have narrowly targeted characteristics that are much higher than those of all those who serve in industry departments by state. This is understandable: after all, special forces are assigned, to put it mildly, not quite ordinary tasks.

In addition, the special forces have the means for targeted action, for example, special reconnaissance means, special means for assault, etc.

In the 1970 – 1980 years in the USSR, there were 13 special forces brigades. The Soviet people did not even suspect what kind of active military work these highly classified troops were conducting in Mozambique, Angola, Nicaragua, Ethiopia, Cuba, and Vietnam.

And then the war began in Afghanistan. Many people already guessed that Soviet special forces fought there, but they are unlikely to present what they were doing there now. But as a part of the Soviet military contingent in Afghanistan, as many as eight spetsnaz detachments fought, which were organized into two brigades.

Many years later, we slightly lifted the veil of their secret activities: they conducted reconnaissance in Afghanistan, destroyed detachments and caravans of Mujahideen, discovered and inspected caravans, mined caravan trails and routes for the movement of Afghan gangster formations, installed reconnaissance and signaling equipment.

It was during this period of the conduct of hostilities in Afghanistan that the special forces personnel received literally colossal combat experience, combining not only the versatile use of special forces, but also actions in the most difficult climatic conditions. It was during these years that the training of fighters for special forces units was systematized and debugged. Yes, experience and knowledge were obtained, but at what cost. How many heroes did not count the country in this war, not ours. But that's another story.

And in our years, it was the special forces who helped the Nord-Ost hostages, it was the special forces who risked saving the children in Beslan, it was the special forces who fought in Chechnya, killing terrorists.

Russian commandos are the so-called operatives of directorates A and B (Alpha and Vympel). And they are also called “Russian ninjas”, called for stealth, speed and very high special skills. In Chechnya, they wear the official forest camouflage "flora", in Asia, a special fire-resistant camouflage "desert".

Usually, special forces personnel wear standard uniform of airborne troops with light blue berets and stripes; however, they can wear the most diverse form, it all depends on which units are located nearby, so as not to give out their belonging to special forces.

The best-trained, the best-equipped ...

They use state-of-the-art equipment and state-of-the-art electronic and technological countermeasures to counter terrorists. The overwhelming majority of special forces soldiers are specially trained in various types of hand-to-hand combat and owns the technique of modern combat with snipers. This is just a small listing of what the special forces can do.

A great number of stories have already been told about special forces today, a lot of books have been written, many documentaries or feature films have been shot, but all of these are only specific and fragmentary episodes, because no one can give a complete picture of such a phenomenon as special forces except those who are considered the most close to this unit around.

People joke that special forces are classified more than nuclear weapon our country. Under the secret of all: names, places of preparation, operations. Even the methods of training ordinary special forces soldiers remain under the heading "top secret".

Many professionals will identify special forces in one single word - prohibitively. However, the ultimate mode of life and work - this is only the norm for a special forces soldier. Many years of grueling workouts in one, but the decisive moment will turn into a short three minutes, for which they will have to find the inner strength in themselves and just as quickly win.

But, unfortunately, the country can not know their heroes either by name or in person. Their faces and work is a strict state secret. But the special forces fighters themselves are real and, at the same time, real heroes, appearing now in the North Caucasus, now in Kosovo, now in Tajikistan, now in Afghanistan, now in Moscow, now in St. Petersburg.

In the entire history of the special forces were periods of recession and recovery. But one thing can be said with complete certainty: these people, who devoted their lives to serving the people, serving in special forces, are true patriots of their country, fighters of that invisible front.

And while there are special forces, while they are in the ranks, there is some certainty that they will be at the right moment nearby and will save, if not yours, then someone else's life, or simply prevent the danger.

Materials used:
http://www.voin.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=79&Itemid=58
http://www.agentura.ru/dossier/russia/svr/specnaz
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C2%FB%EC%EF%E5%EB_(%F1%EF%E5%F6%EF%EE%E4%F0%E0%E7%E4%E5%EB%E5%ED%E8%E5)
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  1. andrey903
    -8
    22 February 2013 09: 22
    As a rule, there is a division of labor. The SOBRs are responsible for urban battles of the GRU barking in the mountains. Alpha is engaged in the protection of first and not very first persons
    1. +6
      22 February 2013 11: 35
      What nonsense. Do you even read the history of the formation of special units, and then write this nonsense about the division
      1. andrey903
        -3
        22 February 2013 11: 44
        I am a lieutenant colonel of SOBR with an appropriate circle of contacts
        1. +3
          22 February 2013 16: 15
          this probably means that you wanted to misinform us or bought a certificate in the transition
          1. andrey903
            0
            22 February 2013 16: 28
            I am retired, took part in the first company, participated in the New Year's storming of Grozny, the Dudaev Palace, Budenovsk and Pervomaisk
            1. +5
              22 February 2013 23: 13
              I was a former fighter of the Ural detachment on a business trip in 2012, I did not see the GRU there at all.
    2. Zynaps
      +12
      22 February 2013 12: 27
      special forces of the GRU climb where ordered, but mainly on the operational rear of the enemy. Alpha is engaged in the fight against terrorism. and the protection of the first and not so people was engaged in "Nine" - the 9th Directorate of the KGB of the USSR (now FSO).
      1. +2
        22 February 2013 12: 44
        special forces of the GRU climb where ordered, but mainly on the operational rear of the enemy. Alpha is engaged in the fight against terrorism
        But in fact, what did the intelligence special forces in Chechnya do? Didn't they fight terrorists? Just like the "heavy" ones. Just like the tasks of the GRU quite naturally include the tasks of eliminating terrorists outside the country. It’s not terrorism
        1. Zynaps
          +6
          22 February 2013 14: 48
          Quote: Gleb
          But in fact, what was intelligence troops doing in Chechnya?


          and the same thing as in Afghanistan - he performed duties unusual for him because of the poor preparation of domestic motorized rifles and the almost complete absence of mountain rifle units.

          Quote: Gleb
          just like the "heavy" ones. just like the tasks of the GRU quite naturally include the tasks of eliminating terrorists outside the country. the essence is not terrorism


          gonevo. these are the tasks of state security. terrorists are not regular army formations, and therefore uninteresting in military intelligence, unless the country's leadership very much asks. and then personally, I and many comrades before me studied in the training courses of the Special Forces and served in separate brigades, detachments and companies, and they did not even hear about the fight against terror. and more and more were preparing for reconnaissance and the fight against much more serious means of a nuclear missile attack. the elimination of some leaders, by the way, are not included in the competence of military intelligence. getting information is another matter. so do not confuse the warm with the soft.
          1. Zynaps
            +5
            22 February 2013 15: 10
            upd in Chechnya, groups of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and State Security were supposed to operate (the KGB included a department that was active in the USSR) to combat gangs), as was the case after the war in the Baltic States and Western Ukraine. for some reason, then, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Ministry of State Security managed to crush the banderlogs and all the forest lads there by small task forces and working with the local population.

            but the situation in the year 94 in Russia was not such that Yolkin sent Dzerzhinsky's ODON near Moscow to Chechnya, but what I did to the KGB after the triumph of democracy was to tell, I hope, unnecessarily ...
            1. +5
              22 February 2013 15: 49
              I basically agree. It’s just that the word terror can be applied today to Kvachkov and what happened in Chechnya. Here and all these misunderstandings about why army units fought there and not the Ministry of Internal Affairs. But in fact it was a war. The most real war between the two peoples .terrorist is a scumbag with a grenade that inspires people with fear. and when it becomes a system, on a national scale, there is no longer any reason to argue with a smart mind who should fight.
              1. Zynaps
                +6
                22 February 2013 16: 29
                Quote: Gleb
                a terrorist is a scumbag with a grenade that inspires people with fear. and when it becomes a system, on a national scale, there’s no longer a smart way to talk about who should fight.


                tell me, expert, but when at the front some clever commanders patched holes in the defense and threw either military counterintelligence operatives or assault sappers against the tanks (all goods are piece-wise, and it’s hard to fill) —you also greet this fiercely?

                you wouldn’t be pointing your rage at me, but at those who brought the country to the pen that had to hammer nails with microscopes.
                1. +1
                  23 February 2013 19: 32
                  they threw military counterintelligence operatives against tanks - Excuse me, where and which tanks? Sorry.
                  1. Zynaps
                    +2
                    23 February 2013 23: 20
                    if you want to be answered normally, first learn to correctly formulate the question. otherwise I’m not treating teenage and other coma.
            2. Misantrop
              +4
              24 February 2013 00: 10
              Towards the end of the second Chechen war, someone from the command of the federal forces had a sensible idea about the competent use of special forces. All heterogeneous groups were brought together in a common formation so that they could operate closer to the main profile when clearing settlements. Those. the outer perimeter holds and cleans the special forces of the airborne forces, the special forces of the explosives go through the streets, and specifically, the special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs go around the house. Tellingly, this at the same time allowed to silence all kinds of human rights defenders, since the "peaceful citizens" were filtered by those who have the right to do so in terms of their official duties, and not at all by the "evil sadugi warriors"
              1. +3
                24 February 2013 00: 22
                Someone told nonsense to you. The infantry from the Moscow Region blocked the villages. VVshniki were shuffling around the yards, for the most part conscripts. Then all the detainees were imprisoned in the FSIN police and transported.

                Special forces of the Moscow Region were doing their job; they had nature. VV commandos were doing the same. Ministry of Internal Affairs conducted operations at specific addresses.

                However, sometimes they were not used for their intended purpose.
                1. Misantrop
                  0
                  24 February 2013 12: 36
                  Quote: Spade
                  Someone told nonsense to you.

                  Yeah, bullshit. lol Brother, he was the chief of staff of this combined group for more than six months (there was no one to replace). Well, 74 only field commanders during this time - and indeed nonsense. Especially considering the fact that there were 2 people of their losses, and even that was not in the operations that the brother planned. Rostov OMON still sends greetings whenever possible
                  1. +1
                    24 February 2013 17: 18
                    Look how it is. So I dreamed about all the trips. As well as the VVshny major, sending "troikas" to the courtyards. In fact, none of this happened.
                    1. Misantrop
                      +1
                      24 February 2013 18: 54
                      Quote: Spade
                      In fact, none of this happened.

                      In fact, you came across a moron in the leadership, preoccupied solely with sitting until the end of the business trip necessary for further career growth in the silence of Moscow offices. It was from those that my brother rolled out a claim. Like the fact that they did not do anything, since they had no losses of their own. It’s not in vain that I wrote that there was NOBODY to replace my brother. Because of what, instead of six months, he grumbled there for almost a year. By the way, according to him, there were only a few people from the entire headquarters of the federal group who could really be dealt with. The rest is entirely a parquet garrison. Is it any wonder after that that the holes in combat planning were plugged by those who were unlucky to be the first to get arm
                      1. +2
                        24 February 2013 19: 06
                        I would not name a person who believes that one or two reinforced motorized rifle battalions will better cope with blocking a settlement than the GRU special forces are a "jerk".
                        Firstly, the GRU officers have a different work profile, and secondly, tanks at the prevailing heights around the village are the guarantor of the normal conduct of total stripping. They hint that the jokes, in fact, are over. And therefore, among VVshnikov there were no losses.
          2. +3
            22 February 2013 15: 12
            and the same thing as in Afghanistan - he performed duties unusual for him because of the poor preparation of domestic motorized rifles and the almost complete absence of mountain rifle units.

            it’s exactly what is happening in Afghanistan. You just don’t need to set motorized riflemen weak. The whole point is in the profile. Their intelligence is no worse. (Chechnya has a special conversation. The whole army was in this state and the special forces have not very funny examples)
            gonevo. these are the tasks of state security. terrorists are not regular army units, and therefore are not interested in military intelligence
            I ask again, the Chechen leaders are terrorists? with which we ran after them then? maybe it was essentially a war? and not a fight against terror?
            but then personally I and many comrades before me studied in the training courses of the Special Forces and served in separate brigades, detachments and companies, and they did not even hear about the fight against terror
            then you don’t trust yourself? did you really serve in the special forces ?? didn’t you hear, but write yourself that the special forces were engaged in unusual tasks? so where is the truth? where were you taught or what was it like?
            and more were preparing for reconnaissance
            If you were preparing, then you can probably now name the main types of intelligence? There is a question for your answer.
            with much more serious means of a nuclear missile attack
            can you write about this? you were taught to mine mines? where you were taught? where any army intelligence officer is taught. because it is really practiced, but in the framework of training any intelligence officer and not mine, of course. (here again, separate outside the state and specific units)
            liquidation of some figures, by the way, are not included in the competence of military intelligence
            this is part of the task force of the GRU, as well as sabotage at nuclear facilities outside the country, but this is all theory. For this, special forces were created, but in fact they were always engaged in what any intelligence unit does.
            Yes, they trained and prepare high-class specialists who did and do things in many parts of the world. But you need to separate these unique fighters and what you saw in the training and what you did
            1. Zynaps
              +4
              22 February 2013 16: 24
              Quote: Gleb
              just do not need to set motorized rifle weak. the whole point in the profile. intelligence from them is no worse.

              You see, only the lazy did not speak about the insufficient preparation of motorized rifles for a war in the mountains. in Afghanistan, it was such that one raid battalion, which did not crawl out of combat, was collected from a whole SME from the pine forest. training of motorized rifles after the mid-70s was at a very low level. except for some divisions of the western districts. the mess in his native country did not begin with Gorbachev. about ORB - it’s generally a separate song. sad mostly. there the training system for military intelligence was limping on both legs.
              Quote: Gleb
              I ask again, the Chechen leaders are terrorists? with which we ran after them then? maybe it was essentially a war? and not a fight against terror?

              Comrade, you give too much attention to the wording. because after the fall of 1993, the situation in Russia ceased to be a peaceful time. The Chechen campaign against this background is another link in a long series of troubles and deprivations.
              Quote: Gleb
              then you don’t trust yourself?

              but to throw off my crocodiles to me is not necessary.
              Quote: Gleb
              did you really serve in special forces?

              show documents? 83-85 years. First, the training regiment in Pechora, and then the 281st Special Forces Division as part of the 24th ZabVO Brigade.
              Quote: Gleb
              you did not hear, but write yourself that the special forces were engaged in unusual tasks?

              do you have dyslexia? Well, in Pechory they taught how to run through the forests, make long ski marches, all sorts of performance characteristics of the UR "Lance" and systems for the protection of wells of nuclear bombs. is this very valuable information for fighting Afghan "spirits" or Chechen bandits? have you ever heard about the tragedy in April 85 in the Maravara gorge? but why would it have happened ...
              Quote: Gleb
              so where is the truth? where have you been taught or how was it?

              the truth is that, unfortunately, you have not learned to read carefully and understand what you have read. In no school for the training of personnel for the Soviet special forces, servicemen were not taught tactics to combat terror. Personally, after training, I served at the border with China and our entire brigade was aimed at nuclear missile facilities in the depths of the PRC. but from our brigade in Afghanistan fought, for example, senior lieutenant Oleg Onischuk as part of the "Caspian" group. Hero of the Soviet Union posthumously.
              Quote: Gleb
              can you write about this? have you been taught to mine mines?

              you are delusional. no recon group can carry enough explosives to blow up a mine. usually trained to search and destroy mobile systems, such as the UR "Lance". there were practically no mine-based systems in Europe.
              Quote: Gleb
              in the same place where they teach any army intelligence. because it really is practiced, but in the framework of the preparation of any intelligence and not mine of course.

              you know, to argue with such a powerful expert further on is somehow even inconvenient for me. you already know better than anyone else - why argue, one asks ...
              1. +3
                23 February 2013 08: 10
                The great thing is the word! Just change the words: war and counter-terrorist operation and what bonuses! You don’t have to pay soldiers! After all, they are not at war! How many guys the state threw a change of these words!
          3. +4
            22 February 2013 17: 28
            Zynaps (5) UA Today, 14:48
            You are absolutely right, starting with Afghanistan, the GRU special forces have added unusual functions that should generally be performed by general military units.
        2. +1
          22 February 2013 17: 10
          For special forces units, there is such a concept as an adversary, characteristics available about him: tactics, experience and features of warfare, weapons used in their conduct, communication means used, etc.
          And terrorists, separatists, rebels and others are terms for diplomats, spokesmen, political scientists.
      2. andrey903
        -3
        22 February 2013 13: 00
        All that remains of the alpha is the name; they travel on business trips. And GRushniki live in the middle mountains in order not to go through acclimatization. There are many friends in Vympel, but they certainly don’t know foreign languages, they sometimes fight
    3. +2
      22 February 2013 12: 42
      andrey903, who smoked ./// wassat
      1. +1
        April 6 2013 11: 41
        datur

        Andyushka smokes constantly, he and SOBRovets seem to be fake bully
    4. +2
      22 February 2013 16: 11
      sobr - bandits, gru power - intelligence, alpha - terrorists
    5. +1
      April 6 2013 11: 31
      Stop lying . That you served in the DOS, suddenly SOBR retirement. Where did xivu reputable buy? laughing
    6. 0
      6 March 2017 23: 38
      read in a new newspaper?
  2. ilf
    ilf
    +6
    22 February 2013 10: 05
    "But the name of the special unit" Lynx "under the Ministry of Internal Affairs is not known to many, although the detachment has existed since 1991. This is most likely due to the fact that such special forces in each region have their own names -" Skif "(Rostov-on-Don)," Tiger "," Rus "," Rossy "," Falcon "," Vityaz "(Moscow)," Rosich "(Novocherkassk)," Ratnik "(Nizhny Tagil)," Vyatich "(Armavir)," Ermak "" Novosibirsk " , Typhoon (Khabarovsk), Mechel (Chelyabinsk), Svyatogor (Vladivostok), Mercury (Smolensk), etc. " - the special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs (SOBR) and the special forces of the Internal Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs are completely different units, here is a list of units
    604 TsSN - formed in 2008 as part of the ODON by combining 1 Vityaz OST, Reutovo-3 and 8 Rus OCH, Moscow
    7 OOS “Rosich” (military unit 3719), Novocherkassk
    12 SPF Ural (military unit 6748), Nizhny Tagil
    15 OOS “Vyatich” (military unit 6761), Armavir
    16 SPF “Skif” (military unit 6760), Rostov-on-Don. It was disbanded in 2010. 17 SPE Edelweiss (military unit 6762), Mineralnye Vody, 19 SPF Ermak (military unit 6749), Novosibirsk 20 SPF Vega (military unit 7463), g Saratov. It was disbanded in November 2010. 21 OCH Typhoon (military unit 6767), Khabarovsk
    23 OCH "Charm" (military unit 6830), Chelyabinsk
    30 DOS "Svyatogor" (military unit 5559), Stavropol.
    25 OCH “Mercury” (military unit 7459), Smolensk
    26 OST “Bars” (military unit 5598), Kazan
    27 SPE “Kuzbass” (military unit 6607), Kemerovo
    28 OOS “Ratnik” (military unit 6832), Arkhangelsk
    29 OOS "Bulat" (military unit 6795), Ufa
    33 OOS “Peresvet” (military unit 6796), Moscow
    34 OSN "Smerch" (military unit 6775), Grozny
  3. +2
    22 February 2013 10: 06
    Of course, I am an amateur, and therefore I will ask: in the photo, is the third specialist holding a revolver?
    1. ilf
      ilf
      +2
      22 February 2013 10: 26
      In the photo, non-Nashen special forces
      1. 0
        22 February 2013 11: 16
        Quote: ilf
        In the photo, non-Nashen special forces

        well yes !!! ++++ can any of the experts say ???? I think the German GHA-9
        1. Suvorov000
          0
          22 February 2013 13: 27
          No longer looks like the French GIGN - a special anti-terrorist unit. They love to use revolvers. The Germans switched to pistols long ago
    2. Hon
      0
      22 February 2013 10: 36
      Yes, revolvers are used in special forces, including ours. RSA / TKB-0216 / OTs-01 under the cartridges from PM, I saw this in the weapons of the OMON of Balakovo.
      1. 0
        24 February 2013 00: 32
        Quote: Kerch
        in the photo, is the third specialist holding a revolver?
        I took away this photo, so I remembered Lube-Alpha clip. Http://www.youtube.com/watch? Feature = player_detailpage & v = zDU0qoH2vq8
      2. 0
        24 February 2013 00: 36
        Quote: Kerch
        in the photo, is the third specialist holding a revolver?
        I took away this photo, so I remembered the clip Lube-Alpha.
  4. 0
    22 February 2013 10: 16
    Briefly, this credo can be stated as follows: "Do not believe, do not ask, do not be afraid." This means that the commando despises death, does not believe in such qualities as generosity and humanity, does not even believe in strength until he feels it. With the manifestation of aggression towards him - he must accept the challenge. Sometimes a special forces soldier feels a sense of complete freedom, good luck and happiness.

    Well Valery ...
  5. +8
    22 February 2013 10: 36
    A lot of mistakes in the article.
  6. +4
    22 February 2013 10: 58
    Special forces are those who make this world cleaner.

    PS do not believe, do not ask, do not be afraid. It is because of the thorns that it sounds there: don’t believe, don’t be afraid, don’t ask ...
  7. +5
    22 February 2013 11: 09
    To the author Thank you very much for this article ++++ !!!!!!!! Guys from the Special Forces, health to you and your loved ones, good luck and come back from assignments alive !!!! Somehow I watched some pro-American channel do not blame me (I am skeptical about it) or Discovery (I don’t remember) where they simulate battles, fights ... and here is the simulation of the battle between the American special forces and the Russian, I thought the Americans, as usual, will show that we are the most (although at the beginning of the video it was almost like that) but at the end our last fighter knocks down the entire amerikosovsky special forces and says this phrase (with an accent) "I am special forces, no one will win us" - here I agree !!!!!
  8. DDR
    +4
    22 February 2013 11: 37
    Special forces are the best fighters, but humanity is no stranger to them (an example is a school in Beslan
  9. +2
    22 February 2013 12: 09
    Yes, the guys are there where in Soviet times, Uncle Aniskin, the district police officer, with his strong word and authority, the special forces coped with shields and machine guns today.
    1. rubber_duck
      0
      22 February 2013 15: 32
      So this is business. A very big business. "Fighting terrorism" is a worldwide trend in the redistribution of material wealth. You can cure the disease, or you can cure the symptoms for a lot of money, and the second option in a capitalist society is not that widespread, but already (this is scary!) Is not even immoral.

      PS And on the subject, for me personally, the proud name of Spetsnaz will always bear: a) simple guys subordinate to a well-known office, whose simple task in Russian was to destroy the enemy's nuclear attack weapons with a machine gun, knife and TNT; b) the guys from the KGB who performed their tasks at the junction of combat and operational work around the world. And instead of maroon berets there used to be a "Warrior-athlete" badge ...
  10. +1
    22 February 2013 12: 12
    In addition to general information and wording, it contains nothing more, and does not bear. When copying from articles-sources, you need to at least remove the labels, which are hung by "advanced democracy", such as: - "took part in ... the dispersal of unauthorized rallies."
    1. 0
      22 February 2013 12: 30
      moreover, we are also soulless nonhumans
      doesn't believe in qualities like generosity and humanity

      and sometimes we can just be happy and free
      1. +1
        22 February 2013 20: 30
        The last paragraph about the human (oh?) Qualities of these people openly confused me. I am familiar with several specialists (not retired), but I didn’t notice such a thing behind them. How then did insensible monsters (exaggerate, of course) manage to prevent a complete catastrophe in Beslan, and not to put everything that moved and breathed there, including children?
        1. +2
          22 February 2013 23: 21
          Please do not confuse gigolos and VV special forces, it is one thing when you work two days a week and the rest of the time you are engaged in practical shooting, hand-to-hand combat, etc. with the benefit of the cause, it is completely different when you "draw *** t" 6 days a week throughout the charter of the RF Armed Forces.
  11. Zynaps
    +7
    22 February 2013 12: 16
    Ever since every ministry and department wanted to have its own pocket special forces, the term was dragged out and muddied. therefore, the citizens have a mess in their heads. now any fighter with a machine gun in his hands and with a balaclava on his head is called special forces. but it would be better to return to the roots and leave the name "spetsnaz" to reconnaissance and sabotage units of the operational (this is the key moment!) intelligence of the Army and Navy, as well as state security. their business is very specific - the opening and destruction of nuclear missile attack weapons in the first place.

    anti-terror groups in the GB and organized crime in the Ministry of Internal Affairs and other departments - essentially tactical groups that do not need training in parachute throwing, the ability to cross the front line and avoid search dogs.

    "special forces" of the Ministry of Justice sounds magnificent and stupid. it is as if (say) UK ministries and departments began to call their task forces the term "commando" out of envy of the reputation of SAS and SBS.

    there are traditions - and it’s not necessary to violate them. especially for show off.
    1. Hon
      +2
      22 February 2013 12: 46
      Quote: Zynaps
      "special forces" of the Ministry of Justice sounds magnificent and stupid.

      Well, at least they perform these military tasks in the Caucasus. And how do you like the special forces of the bailiff service? laughing When you come to the SSP it is funny to look at them, in black unloadings, but empty))) I saw a knife at one. For what purposes, whom are you going to cut? laughing Often in bulletproof vests, although they are necessary only when performing executive actions in view of the likely aggression by debtors. The main inscription of special forces is present)))
      1. Zynaps
        0
        22 February 2013 14: 56
        Quote: Hon
        Well, at least they perform these military tasks in the Caucasus.


        Well, this does not make special operations out of operational officers. people are engaged in operational-search activities and the fight against the gangster underground. direct heirs SMERSH. but they have nothing to do with special forces or commandos.

        Quote: Hon
        And how do you like the special forces of the bailiff service?


        so after all the syndrome of Vasily Alibabaevich - "everyone ran - and I ran."

        True, I heard that in the post-Soviet space, Ukraine, according to the number of special forces per capita, is taxiing everyone in the world! so win !!!
        1. +1
          22 February 2013 17: 36
          Quote: Zynaps
          Well, this does not make special operations out of operational officers. people are engaged in operational-search activities and the fight against the gangster underground. direct heirs SMERSH. but they have nothing to do with special forces or commandos.

          Dear Zynaps, if you are not in the topic about the FSIN special forces, then do not post your comments. Special forces of the Federal Penitentiary Service didn’t when they were not engaged in operational investigative activities, well, if only when the prisoner escapes he assists the search department. The main task of the special forces is the prevention and suppression of crimes and offenses at the facilities of the Federal Penitentiary Service, the release of hostages taken by convicted prisoners, as well as the protection of senior officials of the department. For many years, FSIN special forces have been conducting combat duty on an ongoing basis in Chechnya, where one of the tasks is to protect the complex of government buildings in the Chechen Republic. The Omega special forces mentioned in the article are currently located in the city of Grozny. So there is no need to compare the bailiffs with the really fighting special forces of the Federal Penitentiary Service, which incidentally had many employees who died while performing official duties on business trips.
          1. Zynaps
            0
            23 February 2013 23: 48
            Quote: crona
            Dear Zynaps, if you are not in the topic about the FSIN special forces, then do not post your comments.


            SW. crona, to begin with, let’s not tell me what to do, but I won’t say where you should go. okay?

            [a lot of blah blah blah]

            Quote: crona
            So there is no need to compare the bailiffs with the really fighting special forces of the Federal Penitentiary Service, which incidentally had many employees who died while performing official duties on business trips.


            dear opponent. First, learn to read written with a cold head. I think that everything has been chewed in sufficient detail above, what’s what. and then in our reality special forces will soon begin to call any watchmen in overalls.
    2. +1
      22 February 2013 13: 31
      As for the rubbish of the term "special forces" I agree one hundred percent! This name should be left to the founders of the GRU. Re-call the rest in accordance with their actual purpose.
  12. Kumachi
    +2
    22 February 2013 12: 43
    The article was written by a teenager, unable to distinguish, as already mentioned, the SOBR from the intelligence of the explosives, and the "credo" of the special forces soldier at the end of the "article" generally killed him. You, son, even google where this expression is used. And, most importantly, by whom.
    1. Dmitry_2013
      +1
      22 February 2013 13: 01
      Well, who saw the errors, correct or write your article.
      The topic is quite interesting, and I think many people just need to know the whole point. wink
      1. +1
        22 February 2013 13: 14
        sense to correct? it was discussed a lot here. And Valery himself wrote more than one article. Only some can really annoy when a person is not based on his knowledge, but copies materials from the Internet. I went for example to http://www.specnaz.org/ and let's copy comments from there. and there, after all, the same people write here.
        here on the site in the search type "special forces of the GRU" for example and you will see dozens of interesting articles. even more interesting is the discussion
  13. 0
    22 February 2013 13: 11
    "Barrier" is probably the most "thugs" (not by the coolness of physics), lol because there are only 300 of them in the whole world, if God forbid he inherited it or God forbid he shot it, go to the embassy and sit with rags, did not run to rot in the zindan for life, the Red Banner fleet will not be driven for your sake. "scumbags" in the good sense of the word.
  14. +6
    22 February 2013 13: 34
    can anyone smile (accept with humor)
  15. Jokervx
    +1
    22 February 2013 13: 39
    No matter what color and breed the cat is, the main thing for the cat is to catch the mice perfectly.
  16. +1
    22 February 2013 13: 46
    cross-country runs for 100 km

    Hm. In my article crap.
    1. 0
      22 February 2013 14: 22
      Yeah. Yesterday I read about 80, today about 100 km. even in a sports company on an urgent such did not dream
    2. 0
      22 February 2013 20: 29
      Considering that immediately after it a "participant in the storming of Amin's palace", the Kulikovo battle and a veteran of the battle with Sauron spoke, to heighten the discussion, it was rather a provocation. And what, cheap and cheerful - what if someone blurs something in the heat?
  17. Alikovo
    +2
    22 February 2013 14: 33
    unknown heroes for ordinary people
  18. Zynaps
    +6
    22 February 2013 15: 54
    Only 4 special forces brigades remained subordinate to the Russian power structures. It should be noted that the best special forces brigade of the GRU of the USSR remained on the territory of Belarus (near the village of Maryina Gorka)

    this is not true. In the jurisdiction of the Russian Federation there are far more than 4 brigades:

    2nd regiment (Promezhitsa, Pskov region), 3rd guards regiment (withdrawn from the North-East Military District, Neutimmen), 4th regiment (withdrawn from Estonia, Viljandi, and disbanded, one detachment transferred from the 3rd brigade) , 12th obrspn (withdrawn from Lagodekhi to the city of Asbest, disbanded in 2009), 14th obrspn (Ussuriysk), 16th obrspn (Chuchkovo), 22nd guardsman (former Kapchagai), 24- I obrspn (at the time of the collapse of the USSR was in Kyakhta), 67th obrspn (Berdskaya, disbanded in 2009). plus, separate SPN companies from troop groups abroad were withdrawn to Russia, which were distinguished by a high level of training of military personnel. they were all disbanded.

    the fact that the 5th brigade of the BVO was the best in the Soviet special forces is a rather controversial issue. "five", for example, at spetsnaz "races" lost to a quiet and inconspicuous cropped "top ten" from the Old Crimea. The Kirovograd "nine", the Chuchkovites, the Ussurians were repeatedly set as an example to everyone for their various achievements. The steepest brigade was considered the guards "troika" from the GSVG. "fifteenth" was consolidated and the steepest by the results of the war "across the river". The Transbaikal 24th gave the special forces a whole galaxy of people who made the special forces famous and in 1982-84 distinguished itself in the special exercises of Transbaikalia "Locust". in principle, there were no weak brigades in the special forces. just the "five" was a testing ground where all sorts of new trends were tested. but other brigades also had enough of this stuff.

    two GRU special forces brigades (of the four remaining) were transferred to the Airborne Forces.

    there was no such thing. at the Airborne Forces and without GRU brigades, the states are cracking at the seams - they can be reduced in time. under Taburetkin, all the Special Forces brigades from the GRU were transferred to the command of the Ground Forces. like, Shoiga is going to crank the stuffing back.

    The GRU remained the 16th brigade deployed in the Ryazan region (in Chuchkovo) and the 22nd brigade deployed in Kubinka (Moscow region).

    The 16th brigade long ago moved to Tambov. on photos of the ruins in Chuchkovo you can fully enjoy on the Internet.

    The 22nd brigade is deployed near Rostov. in the area of ​​Kubinka is the 45th reconnaissance regiment of special forces of the Airborne Forces.

    The GRU "Dolphin" intelligence and sabotage unit was no exception.

    the existence of the Dolphin squad is an urban legend. in fact, there was a 17th marine obrspn in Ochakovo, Maysky Island. in the 91st the brigade was folded into a naval reconnaissance point. "Dolphin" is an invention of leisure magazines.
    1. 0
      22 February 2013 17: 48
      Zynaps (5) UA Today, 14:48
      Thank you!
    2. gagarinneon
      0
      24 February 2013 17: 02
      You are absolutely right in many ways, but I want to correct you.
      The 24th was not located in Kyakhta but in Sosnovy Bor. And for some reason, it was not mentioned about the legendary Haluwai that is located on the Russian Island in Vladivostok.
      I served in the 14th Ussuriysk in 00-04. The team always stood out, especially in competitions of any kind. The team leader always paid particular attention to the young draft, and therefore they tried to form the team with young athletes. 5 masters of sports were with me at the call and I don’t even remember how many km-s.
      The participant himself, as you call the race of 02 years, and I agree with you completely there are no weak teams. Each brigade has its pros and cons.
  19. Octavian avgust
    +1
    22 February 2013 16: 09
    Special Forces - the elite of the armed and special services! Knights of the dagger and cloak! hi
  20. forester
    0
    22 February 2013 19: 17
    The author certainly did not get enough sleep or raved all night ...
  21. Hauptmannzimermann
    +1
    22 February 2013 19: 28
    5 obrspn, subordinated only to the Ministry of Defense of the Republic of Belarus. And is part of the Special Operations Forces. Neither the KGB and the more so the Ministry of Internal Affairs have authority over this brigade.
  22. +1
    22 February 2013 19: 57
    In my time, few people knew and heard about special forces. Now there is noise, gamma, all serving as one paratrooper commandos. There are a lot of pontoons, little sense. I recognize the Special Forces Command. Other derivatives. An article from a series of popular science. For a general understanding of the subject, it’ll come down.
  23. said161642
    +1
    22 February 2013 22: 02
    I read it. It’s nice to read to a simple layman that we have a lot of things and it's cool. And who understands a lot of water in this, not to mention simple ones, I think not from evil, not from precision and just crap.
  24. +1
    22 February 2013 22: 08
    Better not to write anything. The article is interesting, as well as the Badyuk’s presentation on the special forces. The colonel of the SOBR amused me. Let his opinion be correct and determinative for imported eyes and ears.
    1. said161642
      0
      22 February 2013 22: 59
      in vo i say read at night laughing
  25. +2
    23 February 2013 02: 16
    In short, dear colleagues, you already have February 23 in Moscow!

    Happy Holidays, Defenders of the Fatherland !!!
  26. busido4561
    0
    23 February 2013 08: 26
    All happy holiday Defender of the Fatherland Day! soldier
  27. +1
    23 February 2013 09: 18
    Happy men!
  28. 0
    23 February 2013 18: 58
    http://ru-history.livejournal.com/3464620.html
    PS Each boat could carry up to 1,5 tons of explosives. From the bay to Vasilievsky Island a few minutes. As a matter of fact, SPECIALIZERS rescued Leningrad in 1943!
  29. Lucky
    +3
    24 February 2013 10: 16
    Glory to the special forces and Russia !!!!
  30. +2
    24 February 2013 20: 30
    So many copies were broken ... Before, everything was clearer and simpler. Alpha-counterterrorism, Pennant-sabotage behind enemy lines, GRU-nobody knew anything about them, and even now they don't really know. They know about conscripts who served in special forces brigades , but hardly anyone knows a lot about the units, consisting of officers, and their tasks. Now any power (and not so) unit acquires its own special forces, even the Ministry of Emergency Situations. About the accuracy of the use of SSNs, in general, a song about what is used in the wrong place , and not because of how someone wrote here, it's all the same that nails are hammered with a microscope. The Special Forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, in principle, is perhaps the most "young", and is used in a variety of ways - from the release of hostages to "sweeps" urgent, and riots were dispersed, and deserters were caught, and a gang of armed fugitive convicts was driven through the forests. It must be understood that individual units are "sharpened" for certain tasks, and they must be used in this way, and not otherwise, because training and other and forces and means. It is not business for the GRU special forces to walk
  31. smershspy
    +6
    April 24 2013 11: 20
    I can say that many photographs, especially of servicemen of special units, are simply "actors", and not servicemen of special units such as the GRU [the most secretive structure], the FSB, especially counterintelligence.
    I hope everyone understands that such people do not like to pose without frames on their eyes or cobwebs on their faces. They are knights in the shade! The real heroes that many have heard of, read fiction, but no one saw, except for those who served there. Humble heroes! Glory to them !!!
  32. 0
    4 March 2023 10: 58
    I don’t understand the dispute between everyone who classifies themselves as special forces. Brothers, you understand, if you decipher the word "special forces", it will be "special purpose." And "special" can be like SOBR or OMON. and 12 GUMO, and "Vympel" or "Cascade". So I passed the "urgent" in the 12th GUMO. We had practically no hand-to-hand combat. But I, from an open sight, lying down, shoot in a way that not everyone can from an optical one. And on the move, when shooting from right to left, I lay down the target with each cartridge. In the opposite direction, only one of the three. "Who studied what!"
    And so, we even have signalmen, and they are also special forces. Especially those who were stationed at the Khankala airfield. Thanks to them, many guys received help in time.

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