The Ukrainian Armed Forces may receive a unique guidance system for drones that will cope with electronic warfare

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The Ukrainian Armed Forces may receive a unique guidance system for drones that will cope with electronic warfare
General view of the Skynode S product


Currently, lungs are being actively developed Drones-kamikaze. Various solutions are proposed to improve their efficiency. For example, the American company Auterion Ltd has developed a new control system called Skynode S. This system has a high degree of automation and can perform some of the operator’s tasks, which allows it to hit the target more efficiently.



With artificial intelligence


American company Auterion Ltd. develops hardware and software for various purposes. The company has sites in Germany, Switzerland and Ukraine.

One of the main areas of activity of the company is the development of unmanned aerial vehicles. aviation systems (BAS). The company aims to increase the autonomy of UAS, making them more independent from the operator.

At the end of June, the company first presented a control system for UAVs called Skynode S. Development was carried out in closed mode, and by the time of publication all the main stages of development had passed. The company has already completed the creation of a new device and tested it, including testing in real combat conditions.

The development of Skynode S was prompted by the proliferation of kamikaze drones and FPV strike systems. The company drew attention to problems associated with the accuracy of hitting the target in the final part of the trajectory. Negative factors in this situation include lack of operator training or fatigue, signal interference and loss, exposure to electronic warfare (EW) systems, and other problems.


Control device with radiator

The Auterion company decided to create an autonomous control system that could independently track a target and point a drone at it without human intervention. To do this, it was necessary to solve complex problems in the field of technical vision and automatic control.

The future product, Skynode S, was intended for light unmanned aerial vehicles, which limited its size, weight and power requirements.

It is unknown how long it took to develop the new system. However, the work was recently completed, and the company produced a pilot batch of control devices. With their help, the first tests were carried out at the test site, which confirmed the calculated characteristics.

In addition, combat tests were carried out. The Auterion company reported that a number of Dragon kamikaze quadcopters with the Skynode S system were used by the Ukrainian Armed Forces in real combat operations. It is argued that the new system has again confirmed its potential and coped with the assigned tasks. However, no technical or other details are provided for obvious reasons.

Technical details


Skynode S is a comprehensive solution that combines software and hardware, which is designed to improve the technical and combat characteristics of unmanned aerial vehicles.

The control system is compatible with various air platforms and provides the ability to operate autonomously in each case.


Auterion Dragon UAV used in testing

"Skynod-S" is a compact computer, which is made in the form of a board with a diameter of only a few centimeters. This board contains all the necessary components and connectors. The board and components are covered by a compact heatsink.

This computer has original software installed based on the proprietary AuterionOS operating system.

The device is proposed to be mounted on a quadcopter carrier and connected to power, speed controller and camera. Declared compatibility with most modern controllers and USB optics. The possibility of using Skynode S to control other types of payloads has also been announced.

A key element of the new control system is the vision software. Using the UAV's standard camera, it identifies and tracks the target selected by the operator. High reliability of tracking and guidance is declared, regardless of various conditions, external influences, and so on.

The system can fly independently or operate under operator commands. Various electronic devices running on popular operating systems can be used as an operator console. The functions of the unmanned system can be expanded by installing additional software modules. In addition, the development company promises to develop its operating system and software for it.


Control program interface

The Skynode S project uses a combined approach to control unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) during flight. An FPV drone or loitering munition takes off under the control of an operator and, following his commands, enters the target area.

The operator must then detect the target and track it. After this, the flight until it hits the designated object occurs automatically. However, until the last moment the operator has the opportunity to observe the flight of the UAV and, if necessary, make adjustments.

Overall potential


Auterion Ltd. presented a new development that is of interest. If the information about the Skynode S project is correct, then the company managed to solve an important problem in the field of unmanned aircraft and create the basis for the emergence of attack UAVs with increased combat potential.

It is alleged that the Skynod-S control system uses any compatible video cameras and implements the principle of a television homing head. The system has minimal size and weight, and is also simple and inexpensive to manufacture. The cost is comparable to a good modern smartphone.

Unfortunately, for now the Auterion company is limited only to statements and advertising materials. The operation of her new devices was not demonstrated.

The proposed and implemented system has obvious advantages. It allows you to free a person from the most difficult part of the process of guiding a kamikaze drone, which requires special reactions and skills. Specialized electronics should cope with this task better than humans. In this case, the choice of target and the decision to attack remain with the operator.


UAV with Skynode S system during testing in Ukraine

An important feature of the Skynode S project is that all control devices are located on board an unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV). This provides reliable protection against electronic warfare (EW) systems and signal loss. In addition, unlike systems with an operator, there is no delay associated with the transmission of signals over the radio channel. All this allows us to count on a higher probability of successfully hitting the target.

Real result


Despite promotional materials, it is not yet known how well Auterion Ltd's control system will be able to maintain target acquisition in various situations and conditions. The question arises about its ability to work with moving objects.

The American company claims that its project is the first such development in the world. However, this is not true. One of the first loitering munitions with artificial intelligence, capable of independently aiming at a target without a full-fledged “missile” seeker, was the Russian “Lancet” in one of its later modifications. Such products appeared last fall and demonstrated the potential of such solutions.

It is obvious that technologies in this area will develop and, having reached a certain level, will become widespread. This will lead to a decrease in the effectiveness of some common means of countering UAVs and will require new solutions or improvements to already known ones. Time will tell how quickly such changes will occur on the battlefield and what they will lead to.
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  1. +1
    2 July 2024 04: 21
    Now all over the world, all the efforts of developers are being thrown into finding effective ways to combat attack UAVs.
    Whoever stakes out this area first will gain an advantage on the battlefield...I hope it will be our Russian engineers and scientists.
    1. 0
      2 July 2024 19: 54
      Whoever stakes out this area first will gain an advantage on the battlefield...I hope it will be our Russian engineers and scientists.

      I think this will be a complex fight: electronic warfare, fire of different calibers, and protective equipment and camouflage at objects. The fight will not be easy and we need a concentration of scientific, engineering and technological personnel, practical military fighters, and organizers of this entire complex.
      1. +1
        3 July 2024 00: 09
        On Western infantry fighting vehicles and MBTs, this role is taken over by 20-40mm main guns or 20-30mm DBMs with programmable fragmentation shells. Of course, electronic warfare equipment and camouflage will not go away, but the most important thing is not to hide, but the ability to detect a drone, or a swarm of drones, to escort and shoot down. At the moment, the Bundeswehr is setting up a control system for the Puma infantry fighting vehicle, conducting tests, or, for example, a new German-French MBT, for which a 30mm DBM will fulfill this role. And this, in my opinion, is the only correct decision, in order not to fence the garden, we use the weapons that already exist for other purposes. Specialized short-range air defense vehicles like Skynet can use their radar to provide all vehicles within a radius of a couple of kilometers with information about drones.
        1. +1
          3 July 2024 09: 15
          In Russia there is a 30mm projectile with programming detonation, as well as a 57mm derivation, also with detonation programming, and these complexes have been in use for a long time in the field of destroying UAVs. And also in this direction they are working on the armored air defense system. It has both missiles and a cannon. So this is not new for Russia.
          1. 0
            3 July 2024 22: 36
            Quote: Eduard Egorov
            In Russia there is a 30mm projectile with detonation programming

            One single time at the beginning of the Northern Military District, one BTR-82 fired similar shells; I have never seen them anywhere else. Derivation is all plans, with unclear prospects. So far it has fired 57mm shells from the S-60, the same age as the T-55, and this has no future. There is no modern line of programmable 30-57mm projectiles in service, just as there are no guns for them. After all, you understand that such projectiles are a complex - projectile + fire control system + barrel with a programming module on the cut. The shell on the LBS will not survive for long and may itself become prey for the drone. I’m talking about the armament of infantry fighting vehicles, and not a separate vehicle for protection against drones, and modern Western systems, fire control system + gun + projectile can detect, track and shoot down drones after modification. In the Russian Federation, the 1,2,3 infantry fighting vehicles are in service; none of them will even hit a drone, even if it freezes on purpose.
  2. +5
    2 July 2024 04: 29
    The introduction of AI is almost inevitable in all types of weapons. Their use with UAVs seems very promising. And then there will be a race among software developers to see who wins. I hope our school of programmers and analysts will be higher. After all, our traditions are deep and glorious.
    1. 0
      3 July 2024 04: 09
      Yes, the question here is not at all about the program, but about the hardware for such specialized devices; there is a real shortage of it now due to sanctions. China, no matter how you look at it, doesn’t make chips itself, and Taiwan/South Korea obviously won’t trade with us.
      1. +1
        3 July 2024 13: 54
        Yes, that's for sure. You need good iron and a lot of it. If you can put any nanometers on the charger, then you only need to put subminiature elements in the projectile, and that’s a problem.
  3. +5
    2 July 2024 05: 00
    Does the device really heat up so much that it needs such a specific heatsink? For my home needs, I soldered a 3 kW power regulator, so its radiator has approximately the same area as that of this control unit, powered by a battery
    1. +6
      2 July 2024 08: 37
      Open your home computer, there will be a similar heatsink on the processor.
      the power regulator is 3 kW, so its radiator has approximately the same area

      If it’s a triac, then it’s 14 amperes, the voltage drop across the triac is 2 volts or more, more than 28 watts of power - the radiator is too small, the triac can get hot.
      If it is a transistor PWM regulator, then it depends on the transistor.
      hi
      1. 0
        2 July 2024 08: 54
        If the transistor PWM regulator
        PWM
    2. 0
      2 July 2024 13: 39
      Quote: Dutchman Michel
      Does the device really heat up so much that it needs one? concrete radiator?
      Here the photo is simply laid out “diagonally” (an optical illusion), and the actual dimensions of the Skynode S board = 37x49 mm. This is not much, especially for two microprocessors at once. Moreover, such a radiator is of little use - they are not at the ideal height on the board, and therefore it is unrealistic to place the radiator on a thin layer of thermal paste. In short, the same crap as with the north and south bridge chipsets on motherboards - thermal gum and thermal rubber bands are not able to transfer all the heat and the chips start to fail. If you are interested, you can read the topic by googling "BGA reballing", like this:
      https://hpc.by/reballing
      https://habr.com/ru/articles/246715/
      PS compare the dimmer on a triac:
      https://go-radio.ru/simistor.html
      just a few pnp layers with millions of transistors in a microprocessor are not correct. By the way, the dimmer itself is easier and cheaper to buy ready-made (from 200 rubles) than to buy parts for it separately:
      https://www.ozon.ru/product/simistornyy-modul-regulirovki-moshchnosti-220v-2000vt-dimmer-1503199790/
      Photo Skynode S
  4. 0
    2 July 2024 06: 15
    Are there no devices that could broadcast human movements on the ground, like holograms? They do all sorts of laser shows in the sky?
    Let's say one fighter is walking and there is a hologram that there is a whole squad marching in a chain at a distance of 15-20 steps.
    They will bomb into the void.
  5. BAI
    +7
    2 July 2024 06: 18


    Unfortunately, for now the Auterion company is limited only to statements and advertising materials. The operation of her new devices was not demonstrated.

    Fortunately, very fortunately for us
  6. +8
    2 July 2024 07: 26
    A very dangerous thing. In fact, this is the core of an effective combat system, around which you can sculpt highly effective weapons from any available components from marketplaces. Those. get cheap, mass-produced, but extremely effective weapons.
    PS Well, if, of course, advertising about compatibility and so on is close to reality.
    1. +5
      2 July 2024 11: 04
      Electronic warfare to the extent that it is currently used in the Northern Military District (this solution will certainly bypass the suppression of GPS communication signals. Here, electronic warfare will have to be brought out into the hay, which burns the sensors of video cameras and (or) affects radio-electronic components (burning with directional (or other) microwave (or other) radiation) This KRET equipment has been developed, the difficult task remains to create a cheap, small-sized device that can be widely used in the same way as jammers are now used. But this is not an easy task, because here the radiation power must be much higher, and detection and guidance means must be available.
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        1. +3
          2 July 2024 11: 17
          I don’t even see any opportunity to argue, everything is indisputable here. But you will have to do it anyway, and here, most of all, effective managers can provide a spoke in the wheels; for some reason I believe in the design and scientific potential.
  7. +1
    2 July 2024 07: 32
    Partners are trying, it’s stupid, of course, to expect an article describing something similar from KRET or from one of our other people, but I really want to believe that we are not sitting exactly on our buttocks, watching these “innovations” designed to kill our guys on SVO.
  8. -2
    2 July 2024 07: 36
    I read everything and with understanding, it seems. But I didn’t find any reference to resistance to electronic warfare. But this is precisely the “nail”...
    1. +4
      2 July 2024 07: 56
      Quote from sergey_taf
      I read everything and with understanding, it seems. But I didn’t find any reference to resistance to electronic warfare equipment

      The author writes that the system has a high degree of automation and can perform some of the operator’s tasks. This means that the device, having entered the enemy zone, can perform its task independently and not depend on delays or complete loss of communication with the operator...
      1. -2
        2 July 2024 08: 44
        It’s interesting when the military will come to understand that creating a lightweight, portable, autonomous anti-aircraft gun with one 100 mm barrel to combat drones at close ranges up to 150-5.45m is an order of magnitude easier than an AI-powered drone with a range of hundreds of kilometers. Yes, you will need optical detection system and AI (as without it), but then you don’t need satellite navigation and communication systems, or shift operators, and electronic warfare is not a hindrance, you don’t need any of this, I screwed the installation onto the bracket by the bracket to a fence, a tree, to anything, turned it on and gone.
        1. -1
          3 July 2024 22: 15
          Quote: agond
          to create a lightweight, portable, autonomous anti-aircraft installation with one 100 mm barrel to combat drones at close ranges up to 150-5.45m,

          It is possible to create something. Just don't really need it. After all, after its appearance, the question arises - why the army in general, and generals in particular?
          And before that, the more complex problem of distinguishing targets. So that she does not shoot at her soldiers and civilians, she does not waste ammunition on crows and fallen leaves flying in the wind.
    2. +4
      2 July 2024 08: 24
      What's unclear here? Electronic warfare jams the UAV's communication with the decision-making and control center. In this case, all this is on board the device: the mini-PC controls, the camera detects the target, and the AI ​​recognizes and makes a decision. There is simply nothing to jam the electronic warfare.
      1. 0
        3 July 2024 10: 48
        It turns out that you need to jam the camera, sensors, and somehow try to influence the PN junctions in semiconductors.
        Fizmat, help me out.
        1. 0
          6 July 2024 06: 15
          The fact of the matter is that there is no way to drown them out. Installations that, with a wave of the hand, burn all the electronics for 100500 kilometers and cut off power to Donald Cooks - these are tales for drinkers and humanitarians.
  9. +1
    2 July 2024 09: 30
    L'automatisation dans la phase finale de la tâche constitue sa vulnérabilité.
  10. +1
    2 July 2024 10: 02
    Where are our smart guys who shout “EW is our everything” and criticize the idea of ​​physically destroying incoming FPV drones on the basis of the deeply upgraded Kaz Arena
  11. -4
    2 July 2024 11: 25
    "Wunderwaffe" with an element from "Auterion" Ltd., like any system with radio-electronic "stuffing" has its own "very bottlenecks" ... And the much-hyped AI, of all things, is just a computer program reproduced by the same electronic "stuffing" (on-board), which can be distorted, destroyed by another program or a banal electromagnetic pulse towards the "carrier" of this combat AI... By the way, what about "Auterion" Ltd. the issue of identifying targets by the “on-board” AI has been resolved (what kind of video encyclopedia should this “Wunderwaffe” carry with it), since it independently accompanies the enemy target and destroys it???? Yes! There is no limit to the “flight” of human thought with “ subtext" of possible earnings...
    1. +1
      3 July 2024 14: 27
      You need to improve your dipler equipment, then you will understand that you don’t need any giant “video encyclopedias” in your inference device wink
      1. 0
        3 July 2024 14: 33
        It’s tricky, but I understand... I went to “pull up”...... However, let me point out, Mr. “vadimtt”, in my comment I focused on something completely different....
        1. 0
          3 July 2024 14: 49
          The other part of your message is even worse, especially in the context of on-board AI, sorry bully
          1. 0
            3 July 2024 21: 07
            vadimtt! Let me report - I figured out Deep learning, but working with an ML model with telemetry data to identify anomalous behavior is more difficult... Although...
            1. 0
              4 July 2024 09: 49
              Commendable! I started with perceptrons on transputers in the 90s and still haven’t fully figured it out bully
              Moreover, he abandoned this matter even before the advent of generative transformers and completely immersed himself in the world of spike networks, because, IMHO, the future of AI still lies in them.
              1. 0
                4 July 2024 11: 43
                Take care of yourself! Don't overload your brain with spike networks and everything connected with them... Neuroscientist Giulio Tononi is the one from the University of Wisconsin who says that "F" (Greek "phi") AI will never "catch up" with "F" human brain... Yes, by the way, “F” is the degree of integration and irreducibility of a particular network... But Tononi knows a lot about networks and he succeeds in explaining the formation of self-consciousness, as such.....
                1. 0
                  4 July 2024 12: 12
                  Giulio is still a psychologist, not a neuroscientist. It has no direct relation to “computer” spike networks, so it doesn’t dictate to me laughing
                  As I wrote (overloaded the brain) on Verilog, autogenerators of the sims of the nervous systems of insects (while insects), so I will tongue

                  PS: Yes, you probably didn’t understand his idea correctly. It is unlikely that Giulio, as a scientist, will operate with the category “never”. Many before him were embarrassed by this laughing
  12. -1
    2 July 2024 11: 50
    I think this will do little to help the paw-eared nation.
  13. +2
    2 July 2024 12: 13
    A key element of the new control system is the vision software. Using the UAV's standard camera, it identifies and tracks the target selected by the operator.

    That is, they have once again invented an optical seeker - now for UAVs.
    For such UAVs, it will be necessary to pressurize not the communications, but the optics. That is, install a laser COEP, which disables the matrix of the standard camera.
    However, such a device will also help against traditional remote-controlled UAVs - it is very difficult to aim blindly. smile
    1. +1
      2 July 2024 21: 48
      Quote: Alexey RA
      For such UAVs, it will be necessary to pressurize not the communications, but the optics. That is, install a laser COEP, which disables the matrix of the standard camera.

      The laser always has a problem with aiming and tracking the target until it burns. And if this problem is solved, then the laser is not really needed, you can simply fire shrapnel with a remote detonation at this drone.
      1. +2
        3 July 2024 15: 36
        Quote: Saxahorse
        The laser always has a problem with aiming and tracking the target until it burns.

        This is if you work on the body. And a matrix, especially a commercial one, is a much more fragile object.

        In principle, COEPs for electro-optics have long been created - they were just previously planned to be used to suppress land-based EOS surveillance and targeting, as well as work on snipers and observers. Because of the latter, there were constant quarrels with the UN regarding possible irreversible damage to the organs of vision - because the radiation power was taken with a reserve for absorption in the atmosphere above the battlefield and, in clear air, simply burned out the retina of the eye, onto which the radiation was focused with binoculars/sight.
        Plus, there are COEPs for aviation, which have to operate from a moving carrier at a moving target.

        There are means to protect the ECO from COEP. But they make the optics and its carrier heavier and more expensive.
  14. -2
    2 July 2024 12: 52
    The Ukrainian Armed Forces may receive a unique guidance system for drones

    I can’t believe it. In the USA they are very scrupulous about their intellectual property and here the latest development is presented to the Ukrainian Armed Forces, with a 100% possibility of it falling into the hands of a potential enemy.
    The Americans themselves will test it at the front and it will not go anywhere to the Armed Forces of Ukraine. These are just another wish list
    1. +2
      2 July 2024 15: 25
      Quote: APASUS
      In the USA they are very scrupulous about their intellectual property and here the latest development is donated to the Armed Forces of Ukraine
      Yes, how “new” it is, highlighting a target “by contrast” is actually a complete primitive - AI is capable of more. Even the control of quadcopters today... has degraded, did you see how they were controlled by the “power of thought” 10-14 years ago? Even a training manual for UAV pilots was lying around on the Internet. Let me remind you briefly:
      https://cmi.to/интерфейс-мозг-компьютер/
      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Нейрокомпьютерный_интерфейс
      Video:
      https://youtu.be/_AGj7uWDKSE

      PS oops, if there is an underscore "_" in the YouTube link, then VO website engine For some reason it never plays.
  15. +3
    2 July 2024 14: 12
    Yes, it looks like a bunch of volunteers are riveting their systems for holding and recognizing targets, apparently these comrades just gave birth to an advertising booklet
  16. 0
    2 July 2024 15: 49
    They brazenly stole it from the Chinese.
    They have been presenting drones with machine vision and automatic target attack for two years now.
    And here everyone is tapping on the reb...
    No...Reb is a relevant thing. But relevant for now and yesterday. But for today and tomorrow, we need active protection that physically destroys the drone.
    1. +1
      3 July 2024 14: 37
      Yes, the banal Mavic for “yourself” perfectly accompanies its “goal”, while watching for obstacles and avoiding them, while simultaneously fulfilling the assigned flight task (such as “panorama with me, flying along a parabola along the course of my movement, follow me,” etc.). P.). So technology is a hundred years old, even without AI. With AI, everything becomes even more beautiful, more reliable and much more variable in application.
  17. +3
    2 July 2024 15: 59
    Nothing unusual - this functionality can be implemented using publicly available OpenCV + Tensorflow packages in one “snout”.
    1. +2
      3 July 2024 14: 41
      The problem is inference on the end device. Jetson is no longer sold to us in white. Although many different NPUs have appeared, so far they only pull weak meshes.
      Well, training a decent grid is also a form of “sport” that begins with collecting adequate “samples”, especially in military applications laughing
  18. +1
    2 July 2024 17: 00
    I would do this myself, but I’m too lazy to sell it to unfriendly UAV makers. “They can do everything themselves” (C). Moreover, the demand curve after the end of its
    1. 0
      2 July 2024 18: 20
      Quote from Beaver.
      I would do this myself, but I’m too lazy to sell it to unfriendly UAV makers. “They can do everything themselves” (C). Moreover, the demand curve after the end of its period is unpredictable
      The key question here is PRICE (the product is disposable). As for the “issue price,” the Americans naturally won’t succeed because they like to “cut the military budget” with a two-handed saw wassat Just recently there was a topic on VO about their latest drink:
      https://topwar.ru/244343-zamvolt-bez-pushek-i-na-veslah.html
      You won’t find anyone willing to get involved with the state defense order either:
      https://t.me/nopasaranrus/5813
      So, it’s either “inexpensive” for volunteers (“after graduation” none of them will need it for nothing, so the demand curve is predictable), or not at all. And if you think that not only price is important, but also quality... then to such a system, you also need to add flash memory with a database, because distinguishing a tank from a highway is one thing, but getting into its weak spot is something else entirely . The techniques are different, the vulnerabilities are different, it doesn’t make sense to get into the same remote control - it’s a person who instantly figures out WHERE to hit, and AI without a database will not be able to cope with this... and add - the cost of the fee will already increase...
      1. 0
        2 July 2024 18: 40
        It turned out to be about 10 thousand. The cost is covered and a small profit is made in reserve. AI works without a database if anything) That’s the point. )
        1. -1
          2 July 2024 21: 52
          Quote from Beaver.
          AI works without a database if anything) That’s the point. )
          Without a Database, no AI will find the vulnerabilities of equipment.
          For example Leopard 2A4:
          Armor thickness:
          https://topwar.ru/uploads/posts/2014-07/1404736582_13.jpg
          BC location (top view):
          https://boevojlistok.ru/uploads/posts/2023-01/1674382687_21.jpg
          and other photos of Leopard 2A4 vulnerabilities (scheme on how to kill Leopard 2A4):
          https://boevojlistok.ru/38675-rsotm-shema-leopard-2a4.html
          Question for the AI: what places will it target with the Bradley? anyhow where?
          PS the RPG-7 carrot in conjunction with FTP is valuable when hitting armored vehicles only because the UAV operator knows where to hit and that’s the only reason he achieves success (and even then not always, because various things interfere NOT standard modifications - barbecues, nets, chains, etc.). So hitting armored vehicles by default without a database is ineffective, except perhaps causing a nightmare to civilian vehicles and infantry.
          1. 0
            3 July 2024 00: 13
            We are talking about different things. If you fundamentally classify a goal down to a model or even a modification, then yes, some kind of table is needed. But I don’t believe that the operator is aiming at some special places. In the videos, the connection turns off a few meters before the target. How can he get to this place?
            1. -1
              3 July 2024 00: 49
              If armored vehicles are not classified, then 3 kg The warhead on FPV will be small, and a cheap drone will not be able to lift more. As for the “videos,” both sides of the conflict usually post only successful attacks publicly; for example, on our side, “Sudoplatovtsy” collected only the most successful videos from different units. But in reality, there are a lot of misses and unsuccessful hits, for example in DZ (Dynamic Defense), which are of little use. Recently, Ukrainians have been duplicating each of their attacks with FPV drones on armored vehicles many times, for example, with two drones they hit “in the tail and mane” - at the junction of the turret and hull of a tank, and then finish them off with the third and fourth drones. But if the hit is accurate and a secondary detonation (SD) follows, then one drone is enough.
              Quote from Beaver.
              In the videos, the connection turns off a few meters before the target. How can he get to this place?
              Electronic warfare is jammed, so the connection is cut off, and by default they check the box in the settings "continue flight after loss of connection" that's all, and then it's purely a matter of luck...
            2. -1
              3 July 2024 01: 20
              Yes, and Beaver, I don’t think that a flash memory chip for AI will lead to an increase in the cost of the design, there may be a ridiculous volume, even 4 GB is enough to upload there... 360° panoramic photos of various armored vehicles so that the AI ​​at least knows from what angle approach a specific target, for example, for a “leopard” the left side is the most vulnerable (the BC is located there). So, the whole price of the issue is in the 3D photos of armored vehicles for the database, and not in the additional ones. chip. So far I have not seen such photos of armored vehicles, but if someone takes them, the same hunt for them will begin as in my time for the 1001st firmware of Mavics (why the hell they didn’t put a bit of protection on it, I don’t understand).
              1. -1
                3 July 2024 09: 49
                A trained AI does not need photos. It works based on a model. You don't need a lot of memory. The processor must be AI-supported and only that. Secondly, is it
                FPV's task is to destroy equipment? I thought about immobilizing him. To do this, there are many places you can hit with 3 kg of explosives or an RPG grenade. The leopard can go into the turret from above - there is 20 mm of armor there. Thirdly, you write that drones rarely hit, and then unsuccessfully. This means that the minimum task is to at least increase the number of hits on the target, no matter where)).
  19. -1
    3 July 2024 00: 53
    And what? This is for the time being!
  20. -1
    3 July 2024 16: 27
    How will Skolkovo respond? Probably another write-off..... Billions.
  21. +1
    3 July 2024 16: 39
    Dispossess the generals (thieves) and the corrupt generals and their patrons and you will have money to fight these toys!!!
  22. 0
    4 July 2024 15: 22
    This is especially touching. The Ukrainian Armed Forces MAY receive a unique guidance system for drones that will cope with electronic warfare. If grandma had balls, it would be grandpa. They also brought in artificial intelligence. This shit takes time. And not a little. And there is just no TIME. Neither the Ukrainian Armed Forces nor NATO.
    1. 0
      5 July 2024 09: 05
      If on the front line up to 80% of targets can be hit by small drones, then obviously means are needed to destroy dangerously approaching or already attacking drones. For a drone, just one 5.45 hit is enough, but a person can neither notice it in a timely manner, much less hit it with his machine gun , and an autonomous installation specially created for this could, without human intervention, confidently hit with 1-2 shots at distances of 50-100m and no advanced guidance system would help the drone.
  23. 0
    7 July 2024 09: 31
    Quote: Edward Egorov
    In Russia there is a 30mm projectile with programming detonation, as well as a 57mm derivation, also with detonation programming, and these complexes have been in use for a long time in the field of destroying UAVs. And also in this direction they are working on the armored air defense system. It has both missiles and a cannon. So this is not new for Russia.

    Where is all this? The soldiers don’t see it
  24. 0
    7 July 2024 11: 56
    They will bring the system to fruition, that's for sure. Therefore, it is much more important to calculate the coordinates of the control point and destroy the operators than countless drones.
  25. 0
    8 July 2024 08: 42
    Quite expected. EW and now, a lottery.
  26. 0
    8 July 2024 14: 35
    Auto-capture is good. If only I had hit a vulnerable point. For large ammunition this is not critical, but for a small and relatively cheap UAV? request
    You can hit a tank with a hundred, but its surveillance devices will only fail
  27. 0
    10 July 2024 07: 58
    Perhaps not all UAVs detonate and it will be possible to get a chip and software in it
    Unless of course it self-destructs
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  28. 0
    11 July 2024 09: 00
    This is a very significant breakthrough in the field of combat use of drones. With mass implementation, problems increase significantly