Calm down, everything is going according to plan. According to the Russian plan

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Calm down, everything is going according to plan. According to the Russian plan

Vladimir Putin’s proposals for resolving the conflict in Ukraine, put forward in mid-June, are fully justified by examples of conflict resolution in many countries with the West. When everything was done on the basis of similar initiatives of these countries. It was no less important then to take into account the military-political situation that had developed on the eve of the settlement of similar conflicts.

Solo in Portuguese


Let us first recall how in 1958 and 1960 the Indian authorities offered Portugal negotiations on the decolonization of four colonial regions that had belonged to Lisbon since the mid-XNUMXth century - in the west and north-west of Hindustan. Portugal then refused to negotiate, confirming the “original Portuguese” affiliation of these areas.




At the same time, Lisbon planned to involve NATO allies and Pakistan in the upcoming conflict. But the leadership of the North Atlantic Alliance, as well as in Islamabad, did not dare to provide military-political support to Portugal in its confrontation with India.

Although the British Air Force and Navy had already been involved from bases in Oman, Aden in British South Yemen, the Maldives and Seychelles. Ships and planes were sent to the sea area adjacent to the conflict zone - but they never intervened in the conflict that soon took place.

In December 1961, since the Portuguese side repeated its position on the status of those “its” areas, India was forced to conduct a prompt special military operation. During that NWO, those four "Portuguese" areas were soon decolonized.

Although Portugal officially recognized their reunification with India only in 1974, the year of the overthrow of the nationalist dictatorship of Marcelo Caetano in Lisbon. Let us remember that six years earlier he replaced Antonio Salazar, who had been “irremovable” for 36 years, as prime minister.

French precedent


A similar situation occurred in 1953–1956. with four French territories on the southwest and southeast coasts of India, existing from the mid-1954th century. Having suffered a crushing defeat in “French Indochina” in XNUMX, Paris did not dare to enter into a direct military conflict with India.

The newly emerged powerful independent power, India, demanded, especially actively since 1953, the decolonization of these areas. As a result, by mid-1956 they were reunited with India. But France officially recognized the Indian status of these territories only in 1963.


At the time of decolonization, Hindus and related ethnic groups made up more than 70% of the local population in those Portuguese and French regions. The majority of their population was in favor of reunification with India.

But it is characteristic in this regard that in those former colonial areas the Indian authorities did not undertake any “anti-colonial” repressions or deportations of local Portuguese and French. As a result, almost 90% of them voluntarily repatriated within one to three years to their metropolises.

For example, in the ex-French Pondicherry in the southeast of India, the French Educational and Scientific Institute of Indology still operates, stories and botanists...


A similar example: in 1968, Moroccan authorities demanded that Spain give up the long-standing colonial region of Ifni, on the southwestern Moroccan coast. Madrid was at first excluded from the negotiations, although in this area over 90% of the inhabitants had long been Moroccans and Berbers, who had been demanding since 1957 reunification with independent ex-French Morocco for a year already - since 1956.

Moroccan troops, in view of Madrid’s refusal to decolonize, which was accompanied by repressions against local “non-Spanish” residents, launched a special military operation in Ifni in December 1968. This forced Madrid to negotiate, and on January 4, 1969, this exclave officially became Moroccan.

For example, Italy... or the Netherlands


In 1952, ex-Italian Eritrea, located on the Red Sea coast, reunited with Ethiopia as an autonomous region. What Great Britain actively prevented since 1944: British troops were in Eritrea, creating a chain of military and naval bases on its coast.


Eritrea itself was occupied by Italy at the end of the 19th century. But in World War II, the Italians lost this region, and Ethiopian troops also took part in its liberation. And it is no coincidence - Ethiopia has long demanded reunification with Eritrea.

At the same time, the Eritreans themselves were mostly in favor of inclusion in Ethiopia within the framework of the Ethiopian-Zritrean federation. Proclaimed in 1953.

Another typical example: in 1958–1961. Indonesia - a large part of the former "Dutch East Indies" - which achieved independence from the Netherlands in 1947, demanded reunification with Dutch West Irian, the western region of the vast island of Papua New Guinea.

Moreover, West Irian was tens of times larger in territory and population than the Dutch metropolis itself... The Netherlands refused to include this region into Indonesia. Although the share of the Dutch (including the Dutch military) in the region’s population barely reached 10%.


Negotiations on West Irian, which began at the end of 1960, were regularly abruptly interrupted by the Dutch. But in the meantime, the partisan movement for unification with Indonesia was intensifying, which was officially supported by the USSR, China, India, Pakistan, North Korea - the DPRK.

With the military-technical assistance of these countries, Indonesia launched a special military operation in West Irian at the end of 1961, while Amsterdam's NATO allies did not dare to get involved in the conflict.

In the end, in order to avoid complete military defeat, the Netherlands signed an agreement with Jakarta on August 15, 1962, transferring this region first to UN trusteeship. Which soon almost unanimously declared West Irian as part of Indonesia on May 1, 1963.

In short, numerous precedents, which may seem like some kind of diplomatic exotica to many, fully confirm the validity of Vladimir Putin’s Peace Plan.

So there is no alternative to Russia’s plan.
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  1. +31
    2 July 2024 04: 14
    Numerous precedents, which to many may seem like some kind of diplomatic exotica, fully confirm the validity of Vladimir Putin’s Peace Plan.

    So there is no alternative to Russia’s plan.

    Are they convincing us that we need to accept the plan proposed by GDP? Sorry, but I don't agree. There is an alternative - to liberate all of Ukraine and give the land to the Europeans, let them “console themselves.”
    1. +18
      2 July 2024 04: 37
      So there is no alternative to Russia’s plan.

      Historical relevance does not rest on deduction or induction. With the same success, one can justify the capitulation of Ukraine in the same way as the capitulation of the Reich.

      Relevance in war is based on victories (or defeats - forbid and preserve).
      1. +7
        2 July 2024 11: 30
        In fact, the article only confirms that in a conflict situation the world is ruled by the “right of the strong”! And the author is right, the West treats this with understanding! Because the West regularly uses the “right of the strong”. am
        All the examples described above show that if you are the weakest party, then expecting to win is STUPID, even if they promise to support you with money and resources!!! The weakest can count on success only if two equal rivals are already involved in the war, and then you can join one of the rivals and perhaps find yourself among the winners.

        Zelensky turned out to be either a stupid person who believed in the omnipotence of the West, or a traitor to Ukraine who threw Ukraine into the furnace of war for the sake of the interests of the West.
        That’s all the situation in Ukraine, Russia’s victory is inevitable, but in what form control over Ukraine will be established is a variable topic and depends on many factors, the main one of which is the cost and strength of keeping Ukraine in Russia’s field of influence.
        1. +14
          2 July 2024 13: 24
          Quote: Eroma
          All the examples described above show that if you are the weakest party, then expecting to win is STUPID, even if they promise to support you with money and resources!!! The weakest can count on success only if two equal rivals are already involved in the war, and then you can join one of the rivals and perhaps find yourself among the winners.

          The Vietnamese will categorically disagree with you))) And the Taliban will do the same. laughing
          Quote: Eroma
          That’s all the situation in Ukraine, Russia’s victory is inevitable, but in what form control over Ukraine will be established is a variable topic and depends on many factors, the main one of which is the cost and strength of keeping Ukraine in Russia’s field of influence.

          You will experience huge disappointment and PTSD. There will be no trace of any Russian control over Ukraine. At best, what will happen with Georgia. Which I personally doubt. Ukraine, like Georgia, will not be released from close US custody. Even judging by Pu’s plan for a peaceful settlement, there is no talk of Russian control over Ukraine.
          1. +2
            2 July 2024 18: 49
            The Vietnamese will categorically disagree with you))) And the Taliban will do the same. laughing

            These are isolated cases that do not cancel the rule. You need to look at the specifics of these cases, in Vietnam it is a war in the jungle, where numbers are needed, and in the DRV the numbers were fine and the help from the USSR and China was super large-scale and unlimited, so the price of victory for the United States was extremely high. In Afghanistan, all the great powers are losing to the local guerrillas, since Afghanistan does not have interesting resources that justify the cost of holding territory.
            The United States is trying to pull off exactly these scenarios in Ukraine, raising the price of victory for Russia to an unacceptable level, but they do not take into account the value of Ukraine for Russia!
            There are risks that the West will pump so many resources into Ukraine that they themselves will no longer be able to retreat, and then there may be a direct conflict between NATO and Russia, or a change of helmsmen in different countries in order to avoid a collision!
            1. +4
              3 July 2024 08: 46
              Quote: Eroma
              These are isolated cases that do not cancel the rule. You need to look at the specifics of these cases, in Vietnam it is a war in the jungle, where numbers are needed, and in the DRV the numbers were fine and the help from the USSR and China was super large-scale and unlimited, so the price of victory for the United States was extremely high.

              Do you think ukroreich is not included in these isolated cases? The population there is quite large, they had quite a few weapons from the USSR, and the entire collective West supplies even more, and not the oldest ones. I don’t even want to talk about intelligence data. There are a lot of urban buildings there, which are no better than the same jungle.
              1. +1
                3 July 2024 09: 59
                The value of Vietnam for the USA and Ukraine for Russia is completely incomparable! This is a huge difference; American society would not have accepted the death of hundreds of thousands of Americans for the sake of complete victory in Vietnam; it would not have accepted the death of several tens of thousands! And for the sake of the reunification of Ukraine with Russia, Russian society is ready to endure quite significant sacrifices. In addition, the victory in Vietnam did not actually give the United States any special advantages, which again made the costs of the war largely meaningless, but the victory of Russia in Ukraine and its annexation to Russia in any format significantly strengthens Russia and this makes the war justified.
                I repeat, the United States is trying to repeat the Vietnamese scenario for Russia in Ukraine, but the world is different now and the main thing that they do not take into account is the value of Ukraine for Russia, Russia is ready to pay a high price for victory in Ukraine!
                1. +2
                  3 July 2024 10: 14
                  Quote: Eroma
                  The value of Vietnam for the USA and Ukraine for Russia is completely incomparable!

                  A somewhat incorrect remark. Vietnam did not affect the security of the United States in any way, unlike Ukraine and the security of the Russian Federation. It will be more correct this way.
                  Quote: Eroma
                  And for the sake of the reunification of Ukraine with Russia, Russian society is ready to endure quite significant sacrifices. In addition, the victory in Vietnam did not actually give the United States any special advantages, which again made the costs of the war largely meaningless, but the victory of Russia in Ukraine and its annexation to Russia in any format significantly strengthens Russia and this makes the war justified.

                  Reunion? What kind of reunion is that? With whom? With the Banderaites who hate us, who will constantly carry out terrorist attacks in our country? What to do with an additional 20-30 million population, mostly old people and disabled people? What to do with them? We have lost our own production once or twice, and even more so. Over there in Crimea, what about work? And in LDNR? And our rulers are not even talking about any reunions. Simply securing the KVO status is the limit of their dreams. Well, they won’t be allowed into NATO. There is no longer even a question of changing the regime in the salo-reich. Here, at least, completely liberate the DPR, and move the Ukrainian Armed Forces away from Belgorod. And you are talking about some inevitable victories and conquests. Well, that's not even funny.
                  1. -2
                    3 July 2024 16: 28
                    You actually know nothing about Russia! negative just sculpt stamps, the Oberfuhrer works rudely lol
                    In the annexed Zaporozhye and Kherson regions, people normally celebrate Russia Day and Victory Day, sign up as volunteers in the SVO zone, in Volchansk locals help Russian troops defeat the Armed Forces of Ukraine, so as soon as the territory of Ukraine is freed from the control of the SBU, Bandera ideology disappears! bully
                    As for industry and unemployment, you will know that in Russia there is a terrible labor shortage, even comrades from Central Asia refuse to work for less than 3000 rubles a day, because there is plenty to choose from, and people with qualifications are generally worth their weight in gold! bully
                    As for the 20-30 million old people and disabled people, are they now holding the defense in the trenches of the Armed Forces of Ukraine? belay laughing
                    The population of Ukraine has declined because people fled from the current rulers of Kyiv, most to Russia fool If the government changes to an adequate one, people will return, you can be sure, not only those who left are returning to Russia, quite a lot of people from abroad are moving to Russia, including from Western countries! tongue
                    As for the authorities, we are out of place and what they should say and for whom we have no idea, all politicians talk about one thing, think about another, and do something else altogether! wink
                    1. +7
                      3 July 2024 21: 18
                      So you don’t know anything about Russia, you talk more and more about Ukraine.
                      I don’t know what’s there in Kherson or Volchansk. I know that in Mariupol only Uzbek-Tajiks work on construction sites, and they don’t hire locals. Factories are destroyed, there is no work. I can see perfectly well that our rulers don’t care about their population from a high bell tower, and here you will tell for another 30 million. fool
                2. +5
                  3 July 2024 10: 22
                  Quote: Eroma
                  The United States is trying to repeat the Vietnam scenario for Russia in Ukraine, but the world is different now and the main thing they do not take into account is the value of Ukraine for Russia, Russia is ready to pay a high price for victory in Ukraine!

                  Who is willing to pay the high price? Where are these people? Those that Minsk 1,2 drew up and signed? The ones from Istanbul that were drawn up and signed? Apart from armchair hat-throwers who themselves are not ready to go into the trenches, I don’t see any who are ready. Even the rulers are not ready to finally send the Westerners away. Everyone will try to make peace and return to the decaying West again.
          2. +5
            2 July 2024 19: 48
            Quote: Zoer

            The Vietnamese will categorically disagree with you))) And the Taliban will do the same. laughing

            We can still agree with Vietnam.
            But what about the Taliban? Victory?
            When there was a reason, they rolled them out quickly. And after that, the point of being there at all was unclear. The Americans tried to formulate this meaning not very confidently, then they spat and left.
            Well, control over Ukraine... There is such a mine here... We cannot establish control over migrants, and talk about a huge country with remnants of the population...
            1. +4
              2 July 2024 20: 14
              Well, if you figure out how to make money by monitoring migrants. control will be established.
              1. +2
                3 July 2024 02: 40
                Quote: Gardamir
                Well, if you figure out how to make money by monitoring migrants. control will be established.

                Yes, that would be a solution... In our reality... laughing
                What if the cities were given to the generals for a week? Maybe they could have taken Kyiv in three days? belay
            2. +1
              3 July 2024 09: 14
              Quote from tsvetahaki
              But what about the Taliban? Victory?

              Of course it's a victory. They have taken over Afghanistan. And the Americans scurried along at super-sonic speeds, achieving nothing politically. And their henchmen clung to the landing gear of the planes, hoping to escape. Which, by the way, I was really looking forward to seeing in 404, in February-March 2022.
          3. 0
            7 July 2024 22: 41
            I agree with you, you are very brave in your opinion. Putin knows well where the Russian Federation’s capabilities end. Ukraine after the war will end up like Germany. Everything was ruined by the dreamer Gorbachev.
    2. +10
      2 July 2024 05: 07
      Well, let's get into the trenches!
      "Liberate all of Ukraine."
      1. +31
        2 July 2024 06: 56
        In fact. We cannot liberate half of Donbass, but we have taken our chances. Calculate how much it will cost. And yes, the people there simply do not want to be liberated. The examples given in the article do not reflect the real state of affairs in those territories at that time. People really wanted to expel the same French and Portuguese, with the exception of a minority of local officials.
        1. +27
          2 July 2024 07: 12
          Who are we? You identify yourself with the Kremlin. I bet they could have released them in 2022, but there was no desire. By the way, who forgot. Let me remind you that all the commanders from Donetsk and Lugansk were simply expelled from the active army, otherwise they will start liberating cities and will cause damage to their partners.
          1. 0
            2 July 2024 07: 15
            Where did you get the idea that I identify myself with the Kremlin? As a symbol of the country, yes. But not with those who sit there. Read my comments before you write something like that hi
            1. +11
              2 July 2024 07: 26
              Didn't mean to offend you. You can't talk about a lot of things. There's just us and them. They are Kremlin people who do business. You are not surprised that they give exact dates for how long the SVO will last. That is, there is already a global agreement.
              We want to return the Russian lands, which these people call Ukraine by agreement.
              1. +1
                2 July 2024 07: 29
                Yes, we want to. But there are real things that have to be taken into account. Will it turn out that when we go on a liberation campaign, we will lose what we have in the rear, behind us?
                1. +6
                  2 July 2024 07: 54
                  There is only one real thing, us and them.
                  1. +3
                    2 July 2024 08: 47
                    No, there is still the economy of the West and ours... Scientific and technological potential.
                  2. +22
                    2 July 2024 09: 18
                    Quote: Gardamir
                    us and them.

                    “They” are a consequence of the pro-Western anti-constitutional coup d’etat in Moscow (1991), how legal “they” are is a rhetorical question. Taking all of Ukraine in 2014, according to all the norms of international law, was prevented by their dependence on the West, the recognition of Poroshenko and the non-recognition of referendums in Donbass, and there was initially a fatal agreement, from which we have what we have. In fact, Russia is being bled dry and the initially pro-Russian south-east of Ukraine is being devastated, while the West is making money and promoting its military-industrial complex, not forgetting to become poor.
                    All this is a consequence of the selfish interests of Russian oligarchs, with their dependence on “partners” in the West.
                    What will happen next, only God knows, but it is unlikely that you can really win with Western henpecked people, no matter how much they puff out their cheeks and promote themselves.
                    1. -11
                      2 July 2024 09: 30
                      a consequence of the pro-Western anti-constitutional coup d'etat in Moscow (1991), that is, do you think that the KGB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs were traitors without exception, and the SA at least up to the level of colonels? Since they didn’t fulfill their oath to the last drop of blood?
                      1. +7
                        2 July 2024 10: 01
                        Why are you, the enemies of the USSR, unlike the Bolshevik communists and their supporters, not proud of your seizure of your country, but for 30 years you have been cowardly blaming the responsibility for this on the Soviet communists and their supporters?
                        Or do you yourself admit that you captured the USSR for criminal purposes? Well then everything is logical.
                      2. +3
                        2 July 2024 13: 06
                        Why are you enemies of the USSR

                        Why did you change the preamble?
                        Previously, every post began with communist enemies.
                        And here are some enemies of the USSR.
                        Where are they from in VO?
                        I can still imagine the enemy of the communists, but the USSR.
                      3. +1
                        2 July 2024 13: 10
                        Well, yes, there is no one, not the enemies of the USSR, who for 33 years after their capture of the USSR have been slandering the USSR, cowardly blaming the USSR for what they themselves have done, one of their favorite teachings is “and we have nothing to do with it, this is in the USSR it was, and we are still trying to sort it out,” and there are no us, supporters of the USSR.
                      4. +3
                        2 July 2024 13: 28
                        Well, yes, there is no one, not the enemies of the USSR, who have been for 33 years after they captured the USSR

                        I’m not talking about peace at all, I’m talking about VO, which of us captured the USSR? laughing
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                      6. -1
                        2 July 2024 11: 36
                        Lastly, a real former communist cannot be, much less a KGB officer
                        - if your thesis right then this automatically means that not a single one this a communist neither in the KGB, nor in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, nor in the SA - did not have. At all...
                        They all liked Feng Shui.
                        Because when it became obvious that the big bolt at the referendum and the liquidation of the USSR became obvious, not one of them fulfilled their direct responsibilities as a communist.
                        Those who are able not to hold their ass in a warm chair - but to “Apoplectic stroke, from a blow to the temple with a snuffbox”...
                        Since some of the elites (the army, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the KGB) betrayed the USSR easily and naturally, the population naturally did not rush to defend the USSR (“I’m a small person, the army turned away its muzzles”).
                        Not all “traitors without exception” were and are like real communists if they had opportunity save - but they didn’t do anything that MANDATED were done - what kind of real people are they after that?
                        Of the approximately 6000 generals of the USSR, as many as 2 shot themselves.
                        What the hell are the real ones - if they couldn’t even shoot themselves out of shame for betraying their oath...

                        The USSR elite system rotted him - like a carrot in a vegetable warehouse.
                        10 not found PRESENT communists throughout the country capable of at least something

                        "Versions 24-33, perhaps there are fifty righteous people in this city? Will You really destroy and not spare this place for the sake of the fifty righteous people in it? It is not possible that You would do such a thing, that You would destroy the righteous with the wicked, so that But what happened to the righteous is the same as to the wicked; will the Judge of all the earth act unjustly? The Lord said, “If I find fifty righteous people in the city of Sodom, then for their sake I will spare this whole place.” Abraham answered, “Behold.” I decided to say to the Lord, I, dust and ashes: maybe there will not be five righteous people, will you really destroy the whole city for the lack of five? He said: I will not destroy if I find forty-five there. Abraham continued to talk to Him and said: maybe. Perhaps there will be forty there? He said: I will not do it even for the sake of forty. And Abraham said: Let the Lord not be angry that I will say: perhaps there will be thirty there? He said: I will not do it if there are thirty there. : So, I decided to tell the Lord: maybe there will be twenty there? He said: I will not destroy for the sake of twenty. Abraham said: May the Lord not be angry, what will I say one more time: maybe there will be ten there? He said: I will not destroy for the sake of ten. And the Lord went away and stopped speaking to Abraham."

                        real officers from the KGB, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the SA, and the future will be behind them, otherwise we will not defeat the satanic West and its lackeys. age remember these people? 70+ feel
                      7. +7
                        2 July 2024 12: 14
                        Quote: your1970
                        Because when it became obvious that the big bolt at the referendum and the liquidation of the USSR became obvious, not one of them fulfilled their direct responsibilities as a communist.

                        At the referendum, the overwhelming majority was in favor of preserving the USSR; it was important that Gorbachev surrendered the country, the people and the army were faced with a fait accompli. We must pay tribute to the Anglo-Saxon “reptilians”; it was not only the careerists from the CPSU who destroyed the Soviet Union and discredited the Soviet government. Yes, we were outplayed by unsurpassed hypocrites and scoundrels from London and Washington.
                        That now, in any case, the wolves have shed their sheep’s skins, and have identified themselves as traitors. People got drunk on Coke and rubbed their jeans on their crotches, and began to understand the difference between glass beads and pure gold.
                        You inspiredly condemned those who did not shoot themselves for not fulfilling their oath of duty, but somehow you avoid paying attention to those who, having thrown away their party cards, are now in power. We must understand that they have seen the light correctly, turning from communists to capitalists?
                        Who knows what will happen next, probably remember another song from Alla Borisovna’s repertoire, about a real colonel...
                      8. -6
                        2 July 2024 15: 24
                        but somehow avoid paying attention to those who, having thrown away their party cards, are now in power. We must understand that they have seen the light correctly, turning from communists to capitalists? You need to understand that in 1991 the cost of a party card on Arbat fell from 10 dollars to 3.
                        That is, they were thrown out by those who became in power/capitalists, and by simple self-interested people/careerists, and by those who decided to stay in business, and by those who are neither fish nor fowl.

                        Who knows what will happen next, probably remember another song from Alla Borisovna’s repertoire, about a real colonel... judging by the results after the revolution, they will be shot at an accelerated pace.
                        The Afghans were already there in the 1990s.
                        Did they benefit the people or did they shoot each other and/or the bandits hard?
                        If there were no real colonels in the USSR, they weren’t trained, where will they come from now? If they became lieutenants after the death of the USSR, and colonels under capitalism?
                        But wait and see
                      9. +1
                        3 July 2024 00: 23
                        By the way, Putin never officially left the CPSU.
                    2. +6
                      2 July 2024 09: 34
                      There is only one thing left. Give the LADY a machine gun in the teeth, and go ahead to release..
                  3. +2
                    4 July 2024 20: 13
                    There is only one real thing, us and them.

                    However... Millions of native Russians who live in Ukraine and millions of native Ukrainians who live in Russia, who are they - “us”, “they” or, perhaps, “zradniks” and “traitors”? Ask Syrsky’s parents who their son is for them - “they” or “we”.
                    When relatives fight with each other, it is a civil war. Although they drew the border, they are called different states and the military actions were called the Northern Military District - all the same, this is a civil war in which their own people fight against their own.
                    1. +1
                      4 July 2024 21: 59
                      I'm talking about the Kremlin and the people. They are the Kremlin ones, those who bring in migrants in trains and do not want to end the civil war. And we the people are forced to participate in all this.
              2. +7
                2 July 2024 08: 02
                Returning Russian lands is a means. The goal is the security of the state, which is not determined by the border line (remember the United States and Soviet missiles in Cuba), preventing conditions for the loss of sovereignty in the near future, plus the preservation of the Russian ethnic group on Russian lands.
                1. +17
                  2 July 2024 10: 25
                  Quote: CleanKeys
                  plus the preservation of the Russian ethnic group on Russian lands.

                  For now, it is mostly being destroyed. Both military and non-military, with replacement by migrants
                2. +13
                  2 July 2024 11: 07
                  Quote: CleanKeys
                  preventing conditions for loss of sovereignty in the near future

                  Yes here. If sovereignty is lost, the existing elite will not survive. They cannot allow this.
                  Quote: CleanKeys
                  plus the preservation of the Russian ethnic group on Russian lands.

                  Our rulers and oligarchs don’t give a damn about this. This is clearly visible in the insane migration policy.
              3. +1
                2 July 2024 13: 03
                You are not surprised that they give exact dates for how long the SVO will last.

                You seem to be an elderly person, but surprisingly naive.
                Well, let me now tell you the amount of US debt for 2030.
                Will you decide that I control the head of the Fed?
          2. +19
            2 July 2024 10: 21
            “By the way, who forgot. Let me remind you that all the commanders from Donetsk and Lugansk were simply kicked out of the active army, otherwise they will start liberating cities and will cause damage to their partners.”
            Then the shooters approached Mariupol and could have taken it. but he was quickly stripped of all his ranks, and he was recalled to Moscow - and don’t touch the slave, the partner’s property. Since then he has been at odds with the Kremlin, because he knows a lot
        2. +3
          2 July 2024 11: 12
          Quote from: dmi.pris1
          That’s true. We can’t liberate half of Donbass, but we’ve taken our chances.

          We can’t and we don’t want to, these are different concepts. hi
          1. +4
            2 July 2024 11: 13
            Rather, these concepts are here together... hi
    3. +30
      2 July 2024 07: 03
      I strongly disagree with the title of the article that everything is going according to plan. I would like to ask a question about what plan? Unfortunately, it was completely ill-considered when they decided to liberate the outskirts with such a small number of forces, which led to the logical abandonment of known territories and their escalation into a real war using the entire line of conventional weapons, and now with the possible entry of NATO troops into the conflict with an unpredictable outcome.
    4. +24
      2 July 2024 07: 10
      You know, dear, before you go further on your liberation campaign, you need to ask those soldiers who have been fighting for three years for God knows what. And most of them will tell you very unpleasant things. Like, for example, they spat in the back in the Kherson region, and often and they shot, etc.. First you need to think, but it’s worth it. With all my rejection of Putin as the leader of the Great Country, I understand his actions lately. It has become clear that we are not succeeding with the primary goals of the SVO. And continue to bend a stick means breaking it. I mean our country. Our human, technological and industrial potential is not so great anyway. And in general. Before you go to restore order on the street, you must first restore it at home. And then the fence over there fell down
      1. +5
        2 July 2024 07: 22
        I agree, it wouldn’t hurt to clear out your “stables” first. But for the sake of fairness, in the same Kherson, disguised Armed Forces of Ukraine, SBU officers, ATO participants (of whom there were quite a few in 8 years) and members of their families stood with yellow and blue rags and spat in the back. The Ukrainians themselves admitted who was there with the “chants”. And the population loyal to us was warned that they would cut them off in their gateways and apartments. But why the Russian Guard stood in the central square and did not begin to restore order in Kherson is the question. This probably has a last name and a first name.
        It is worth admitting that Kherson was quickly and competently captured, but further questions arise.
        1. +1
          2 July 2024 08: 42
          I did. You can look for footage of how the crowd was dispersed with a teardrop.
      2. 0
        2 July 2024 07: 45
        Quote from: dmi.pris1
        It became clear that we were not succeeding with the primary goals of the NWO

        Well, who is to blame for this? In 22, how many times did Kadyrov ask: “Vladimir Vladimirovich! Give the order and Kyiv will be taken!” Well? “We were asked”, “dear partners”, “negotiations” and as a result “Ah! We were deceived!” Since they said A, we must also say B. And not act like in that song “Dance School” - “Two steps to the right, two steps to the left, one step forward and two steps back.” And then how many Russians on both sides could be saved?! And the West would not have been able to supply weapons to this vile regime. Then they all withdrew their embassies, called on citizens to leave as quickly as possible, and closed their enterprises. And then, when they saw that they could get impudent, they came back.
        Yes, it is difficult and very difficult, but if negotiations begin now, then consider that no one will take Russia into account at all.
        1. +15
          2 July 2024 08: 02
          And now they take us into account? According to Kadyrov. He spoke a lot then. Then he fell silent. Most likely he realized that it was still not worth throwing himself at a saber with a naked woman. Looking at what literally began to happen, well, a month after the start SVO. This is the time when we first began to suffer very serious losses. Literally before the Istanbul agreement. But the command and the unpreparedness of the rear are to blame. I’m not even talking about corruption
        2. +3
          2 July 2024 10: 12
          Taken by whom? A city with a population of 35 thousand in the entire Kyiv region?
        3. +6
          2 July 2024 11: 13
          Quote: Egoza
          Well, who is to blame for this? In 22, how many times did Kadyrov ask: “Vladimir Vladimirovich! Give the order and Kyiv will be taken!”

          Who is Kadyrov, and what does he know about databases of that scale? His battalions in Mariupol very quickly realized what they had gotten themselves into. If I'm not mistaken, our troops never reached Kyiv, getting stuck in Bucha... And this happened due to a complete failure in reconnaissance and planning the operation. From the obviously small amount of allocated forces and means.
          Quote: Egoza
          Yes, it is difficult and very difficult, but if negotiations begin now, then consider that no one will take Russia into account at all.

          Somehow I don’t see that anyone in the West takes us into account. The red markers just make people laugh.
        4. +8
          2 July 2024 11: 23
          Quote: Egoza
          "Vladimir Vladimirovich! Give the order and Kyiv will be taken!" Well? “We were asked”, “dear partners”, “negotiations” and as a result “Ah! We were deceived!”

          I feel sorry for people who still do not understand what kind of regime is in Russia. There is no joy on the faces of the gas station owners. The hysterics of the ladies corrupted by the West are brainwashed, better than the cheers of the propagandists. How much money was cut and distributed? hi
    5. -20
      2 July 2024 08: 29
      Putin's peace plan for Ukraine is hardly a serious proposal. It was voiced by Putin on the eve of the so-called “peace” summit in Switzerland, primarily for the countries of the Global South, in order to interrupt the agenda of the summit and show the Russian Federation’s desire for peace. It was obvious that the expired condom Zelensky would not accept him. Putin specifically emphasized that the plan was relevant at the time of publication. Already now the situation at the front has changed: the counter-grunt of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Kharkov has run out of steam, the Russian Armed Forces are pushing back the Ukrainian Nazis in almost all directions, Western assistance to Ukraine has not been able to change the situation at the front, Russia has liberated part of the Kharkov region from the Nazis. The Ukroführer's statements about his desire for peace are not worth a damn.
      Leaving Western Ukraine to NATO makes no sense. In fact, Nazi Ukraine is already a terrorist state. If Western Ukraine is not liberated from Bandera, it will turn into a breeding ground for terrorists, like ISIS.
      1. +18
        2 July 2024 10: 05
        Quote: Bearded
        expired condom Zelensky
        counter-grunt
        the Nazis
        ukroführer
        terrorist state
        Bandera
        LIH

        Forgive me generously, but you should reduce your daily dose of TV/Nightingale...
        People live there. The same as me or you, living Russian people. Those who just want to live, and preferably not to live badly. Every day they publish videos of men being broken and twisted in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Are they Nazis and Banderaites?
        Dozens of young healthy men are dying and hundreds of thousands of young healthy men are being maimed.
        Instead of these men, tens of millions of kishlak people are brought to us, because... there is no one to work.
        For what? Denazification? Demilitarization? He flies to Belgorod, Kursk, Donetsk, and Lugansk every day.
        Slaves on both sides of the conflict are tearing each other's forelocks in anger, having seen enough of their Gordon nightingales, and the number of billionaires in the country is increasing. And for those already existing, the number of billions is increasing..
        Sorry for the confusion. It hurt.
    6. +1
      2 July 2024 09: 32
      Quote: Egoza
      Sorry, but I don't agree. There is an alternative - to liberate all of Ukraine and give the land to the Europeans, let them “console themselves.”

      It is easier to have a controlled administration; all that remains is to suppress dissent on the ground (as was done by our “partners”). The agreement must imply mechanisms for monitoring compliance with the conditions of the Russian Federation, and this cannot be done without a controlled administration.
    7. 0
      2 July 2024 11: 53
      Quote: Egoza
      There is an alternative - to liberate all of Ukraine

      And take it for yourself.
      Quote: Egoza
      and give the memory to the Europeans

      And get an eternal abscess like Poland?
      It’s better to give Bandera’s followers to the EU and those lands to Belarus, well, if that’s what you want.
    8. +1
      2 July 2024 12: 34
      Quote: Egoza
      liberate all of Ukraine and give the land to the Europeans

      I agree with many things, except for one thing, nothing should be given to the Gay Europeans.
    9. +2
      2 July 2024 13: 08
      There is an alternative - to liberate all of Ukraine and give the land to the Europeans, let them “console themselves.”

      A bad alternative because it's expensive.
      I think somewhere around two million lives of Russian citizens.
      Well, a million Russians in 404.
    10. +4
      2 July 2024 14: 38
      I still don’t understand what it is, I read it... Another “decoding” of the HPP? Does the author treat readers as idiots?
    11. -1
      3 July 2024 21: 11
      Madam, if you don’t agree, then what’s stopping you from going into the trenches and realizing your plans and desires? Well, or send your children to be sold.
    12. 0
      3 July 2024 22: 31
      and who agrees, but they won’t ask us...
  2. +38
    2 July 2024 05: 13
    I did not understand anything from the article.
    The authors provided historical information about the decolonization of India and Morocco. What's this all about?
    According to the authors, the NWO is similar to the war between the Hindus and Portugal for their provinces??? This is ridiculous.

    I can only suggest that respected authors read something about the Korean War, the Iran-Iraq War, maybe the First World War.
    1. -10
      2 July 2024 11: 54
      Quote: RussianPatriot
      NWO is like the war between the Hindus and Portugal for their provinces???

      Well actually yes.
      “It’s like the historical lands went to hell.”
      And the spread of the EU/NATA and the influence of the Zaad is still similar to neocolonization.
      There are similarities.
  3. +9
    2 July 2024 05: 20
    comparing the original Russian lands on the outskirts of Russia with the former overseas colonies of Britain, Portugal, France or Spain is, to put it mildly, a deliberate distortion of Russia’s goals and a humiliation of the feat and sacrifice of our soldiers fighting and dying in the Northern Military District. The fact that India, or Morocco or Indonesia, offered to come to an agreement with the former overseas colonialists, and the fact that Russia offers to come to an agreement on the basis of surrender to an illegally created country, which on the outskirts of the original Russian lands was created on the basis of betrayal by traitors to the Motherland Gorbachev and Yeltsin, are completely different things. The author’s goals with such an article are unclear. The main thing is that the Britons or the Spaniards created empires by conquering to enslave and plunder overseas natives, and Russia annexed neighboring lands at the request of local natives in order to save them from the British, Turks, Japanese, French, Germans...
    1. man
      +10
      2 July 2024 07: 59
      The main thing is that the Britons or the Spaniards created empires by conquering to enslave and plunder overseas natives, and Russia annexed neighboring lands at the request of local natives in order to save them from the British, Turks, Japanese, French, Germans ...
      Honestly, some of those being rescued stubbornly did not understand their happiness and we had to fight with them for 100 years in order to save the ungrateful laughing
      1. -1
        2 July 2024 11: 57
        Quote: mann
        Honestly, some of those being rescued stubbornly did not understand their happiness and we had to fight with them for 100 years in order to save the ungrateful

        Well, unlike enlightened Europeans, they were not given plague (or smallpox) blankets.
        Well, where are some Indians now? Actually, think not.
        1. 0
          2 July 2024 12: 47
          In general, the Indians are quite preserved in the USA and there are even more of them than there were before the invasion of the colonists.
    2. 0
      2 July 2024 10: 19
      Why lie then? Russia conquered lands from Sweden, annexed Poland by force, where there were constant uprisings, and so on. Is it better to develop what you have and live peacefully with your neighbors than to dream of getting everything back?
      1. +3
        2 July 2024 11: 59
        Quote: Kronos
        Poland was annexed by force

        Which has never attacked Russia before (and then recapture Kyiv/Smolensk).
        Some of the lands of which had justified claims through the genealogy of the rulers.
        Which was shared 4 times and why not take part?
        And in general, everyone did this, why are the Russians suddenly extreme?
        Bad example. These should be cut out.

        Quote: Kronos
        Sweden Russia conquered lands

        Those who were Novgorod.
        There, from St. Petersburg and part of Finland to Yuryev, not to mention the north, there had never been a Swede before.
        Then the Swedes started there and said that it had always been like this.
        (well, yes, they are Europeans, they can)
        1. -1
          2 July 2024 12: 45
          Of course, everyone did this, so there’s no need to make yourself look better than others by telling fairy tales, we peacefully joined everyone, and the bad Europeans killed everyone. But in general, instead of throwing all your efforts into conquest and being left with nothing, it is better to develop the rather large territories that already exist.
        2. +5
          2 July 2024 14: 19
          Quote: Hitriy Zhuk
          These should be cut out.

          Herr Schickelhuber? Are you from the other world!? laughing
          Stop hanging out with Himmler there.
          1. +1
            2 July 2024 18: 51
            Quote: Adrey
            Herr Schickelhuber? Are you from the other world!?

            But why are you asking? laughing
            Quote: Adrey
            Stop hanging out with Himmler there.

            Nein! His Schnapps is good.

            But seriously, Poland is practically the cradle of “Russophobia” in its most radical form. Something like "anti-Russia".
            What in the old days, what now.
            And something needs to be done with it. (donate it to Germany and watch from around the corner, as an option).
            1. +2
              2 July 2024 19: 08
              BUT, as soon as we talk about the Bolsheviks and the White Poles, the Russian enemies of the USSR rush to defend the White Poles, "cry" over the White Poles shot in Katyn, and make it a crime of Stalin that in 1939 he returned to Russia/USSR those captured by the White Poles in time Civil Russian territories.
              1. +1
                4 July 2024 13: 28
                Well, all this garbage in the early 90s was, as it were, a counter-revolution, white (maybe “white 2.0”, but that’s not the point).
  4. +15
    2 July 2024 05: 30
    Well, he could demand anything, only those territories in which the Ukrainian authorities
    in the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions, the Ukrainian enemies of the USSR will not give up, and taking them by military means will require years and enormous sacrifices. And the Americans, especially, will not lift the sanctions.
    1. man
      +8
      2 July 2024 08: 03
      And the Americans, especially, will not lift the sanctions.
      The Americans will not lift sanctions regardless of the outcome of the SVO, it’s high time to get used to this
      1. +4
        2 July 2024 08: 05
        Well then why did he demand to take them off? Doesn't he understand this? And the Americans can lift sanctions, but only when he is gone.
        1. man
          +6
          2 July 2024 08: 21
          then why did he demand to remove them?
          The hopes of "young men are nourished,
          "Congratulations are served to the old"
          The states are having a very hard time parting with the sanctions they imposed; the broom amendment, for example, was only repealed in 2012. So they will have to lick their ass for another 30 years, and even then, if a government comes to power that suits them, God forbid.
          It is necessary to develop our science and industry, there is no other way out
          1. +5
            2 July 2024 08: 24
            No one will develop anything, and no one will want to, and generally will not be able to. The enemies of the USSR have already proven everything about themselves in 33 years of their highly paid work, and nothing will be better. Moreover, it is clear that the main goal for the next 6 years is militarization.
            1. man
              +3
              2 July 2024 08: 32
              No one will develop anything, and no one will want to, and generally will not be able to.
              So those who can come should come.
              Otherwise:
              "It's over with Russia ... On the last
              We chatted her up, chatted her away"
              Unfortunately, the choice is small... sad
              1. +4
                2 July 2024 08: 35
                This is demagoguery. But reality is only what it is.
                1. man
                  +3
                  2 July 2024 08: 40
                  Quote: tatra
                  This is demagoguery. But reality is only what it is.

                  This is not demagoguery, this is hope, which, as we know, is the last to die.
                  When Voloshin wrote these lines, it also seemed that this was the end.
                  But the Bolsheviks came...
                  1. +3
                    2 July 2024 08: 43
                    So there are no Bolsheviks. And their enemies have a stranglehold on our country.
        2. -11
          2 July 2024 08: 35
          In his peace plan, Putin demanded, among other things, the lifting of all sanctions on the Russian Federation in order for the peace plan to be abandoned and the liberation of Ukraine from the Nazis to continue. Yes
          1. +5
            2 July 2024 08: 38
            Well, propaganda again. How easily the enemies of the USSR succumb to the propaganda of their anti-Soviet government.
            1. +1
              2 July 2024 09: 07
              Why did you decide that I am an enemy of the USSR? No.
              Just the opposite. I am a supporter of the USSR. Yes
              Under the USSR, all nations lived in their own republics. And there was no Asian invasion in Russia.
              The advantages of the USSR can be described endlessly. Yes good
            2. +1
              4 July 2024 13: 58
              Quote: tatra
              enemies of the USSR

              We also need to understand WHAT USSR it is.
              Initial, Stalinsky, and so on up to “one step before death.”
              Yet again.
              The one where there were no problems with work, housing (even if it’s a hostel, but it’s not a problem to get it) or where there are “sausage trains” and “showcases of communism” (in the national republics, not in Norilsk\Omsk\Tomsk of any kind).

              The one where there is a normal cinematograph, or the one where something like “Interdevochka” (yeah, that’s also “on its way out”)?

              The one where the “Stalinist artels” were or the one where the stupid man Khrushchev destroyed them?
              (by the way, these are all imported goods that people were chasing after later (chewing gum, jeans, etc.) they would have made them without any problems.
              They once made television sets/receivers/cameras.

              And so on.

              Let's say in general I'm for, but if there is a new “Khrushchevism” then well, fuck it (especially since Khrushchevism will be followed by a new end and the 90s).
              1. +1
                4 July 2024 14: 01
                THE ONE that the enemies of the USSR captured in their totally deceitful anti-Soviet Perestroika.
                You won’t ask which Russia was captured by the Bolsheviks in October 1917, serfdom, or some other one?
          2. +5
            2 July 2024 09: 09
            Tell me, do you yourself believe in this? If you do, then you live on the same planet where the Kremlin’s people live
        3. -6
          2 July 2024 09: 25
          Well then why did he demand to take them off? Doesn't he understand this? And the Americans can lift sanctions, but only when he is gone.
          In politics they never do what they say and never say what they do.
          This is a speech for a certain circle of Westerners, nothing more.
          And the USA, even if we have Misha 2% or someone else from the opposition, will not be able to lift the sanctions. Physically he can't...
          The Jackson-Vanik sanctions are confirmation to you - lifted 20 years after the reason for their imposition disappeared
          1. +3
            2 July 2024 09: 33
            Only the result of this ultimatum of his is zero. And the sanctions brought great economic damage to both the West and Europe, so it is quite possible that when the person who caused the sanctions is no longer there, the sanctions may be lifted.
            This was due to sanctions on the USSR for entering the Afghan war to the enemies of the USSR in the West and Europe, there was no damage.
            1. -5
              2 July 2024 09: 44
              .This is from sanctions on the USSR for entering the Afghan war
              The Jackson-Vanik sanctions were imposed in 1974

              There was no damage to the enemies of the USSR in the West and Europe.
              sure sure....
              There are sellers there high-tech (including supercomputers) Western products lost their buyers, and buyers of Soviet rolled products received free iron from the USSR and were forced to buy 3 times more expensive iron from their manufacturers
        4. +1
          2 July 2024 11: 00
          Quote: tatra
          Well then why did he demand to take them off? Doesn't he understand this?

          Dropped a point for bidding. No more.
  5. +21
    2 July 2024 05: 35
    Based on the title and the first lines, I thought that the author was Alexander Staver, but no, I didn’t guess.
    1. +18
      2 July 2024 06: 58
      Yes, even without Staver there would be a dozen “archpriests” from clumsy propaganda...
  6. 0
    2 July 2024 05: 57
    Some of the southern and eastern regions of modern Ukraine have nothing to do with it. This is all the result of the unfair administrative division of the former USSR into republics and regions, as a result of which territories with a Russian population went to some kind of artificially created republic by Lenin. I'm not even talking about the Crimean gift!
    1. +10
      2 July 2024 06: 16
      The author cites “numerous precedents” that indicate a huge gain for billions of people around the world from the mere existence of the USSR.

      But there is one people for whom, judging by their demographics, even their eggs are in the way, and for such people the USSR has become the source of all their current troubles. laughing

      Yes, sir.... Some are hindered by thieves and traitors, while others are hindered by the founder of the USSR and all sorts of ".. isms...", as well as the ideas of justice and friendship of peoples.... In my opinion, this is disgusting.
    2. +11
      2 July 2024 06: 34
      You know what you are wrong about. You were convinced that Ukraine is a foreign country and on this basis you divide the lands into ours and not ours. But all of Ukraine is the same Russian land as the Urals, Kachatka, Kuban. Besides, is it worth shaking the history of the hedgehog country? Crimea was not transferred anywhere; it remained in the USSR.
      Just think about it, the bourgeoisie of Russia act in concert with the bourgeoisie of Europe. And you just choose who to believe.
    3. +12
      2 July 2024 07: 00
      Well, of course, Lenin and Stalin should have foreseen that you, their enemies, would want to divide the State they created among themselves. And you always have AGAINST, but no FOR. Not one of you has proven how the communists should have divided the USSR territorially so that they could not dismember it.
      Even the territorial division into provinces in the Republic of Ingushetia did not help; after the February Revolution, Russia began to be torn to pieces
      And you yourself have so divided the Russian Federation into 8 federal districts and 22 republics that it can be divided in any way you like.
      1. +11
        2 July 2024 07: 20
        By the way, Irina will support you. Why were the republics of Donetsk and Lugansk created? What kind of people are the Donchak and Luganchak people?
        And why does each region have its own ministries? For that. to make it easier to divide in case something happens?
        1. man
          +6
          2 July 2024 08: 50
          And why does each region have its own ministries?
          Apparently it’s easier to cut the budget this way
      2. +12
        2 July 2024 07: 32
        Even the territorial division into provinces in the Republic of Ingushetia did not help; after the February Revolution, Russia began to be torn to pieces

        Because in 1917, among other things, the decolonization of the semi-feudal Russian Empire began.
        No matter how “great life is” in the Russian Federation, the conditional Mannerheim and ... Skoropadsky, and even Krasnov wanted to separate from St. Petersburg. But Lenin and the “damned Bolsheviks” were able to reverse this process, and in addition to the ideology of the friendship of all peoples on the basis of PROLETARIAN, and not just any, INTERNATIONALISM and the specific granting of sovereignty on the basis of indigenization, it made it possible to restore the country, practically within the framework of the Republic of Ingushetia, without, of course, completely inorganic for the countries of Poland and Finland, a “suitcase without handles” for the Republic of Ingushetia.
        No white government would have succeeded in this; Ukraine, including the Black Sea steppes and the Donbass, would have gone on a nationalist autonomous voyage back in the 20s if it had not come to Poland.
        But the collapse of the USSR, which was the real RUSSIA, created by the “damned Bolsheviks” and V.I. Lenin, again launched nationalism and centrifugal processes into orbit.
        1. +1
          2 July 2024 07: 33
          life would not be great in RF, but also the conditional Mannerheim and... Skoropadsky, and even Krasnov wanted to separate from St. Petersburg. = Ochepyatka, of course Russian Empire
        2. +8
          2 July 2024 07: 39
          And the enemies of the Bolsheviks falsely and hypocritically accuse those who “ruined Russia,” although it was precisely the enemies of the Bolsheviks during the Civil War that they unleashed, who seized parts of the territory of Soviet Russia / RSFSR, and created their own separate States on them - Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, The UPR, ZUNR and others declared it a crime of Stalin that in 1939-1940 he returned to the country the Russian territories captured by the enemies of the Bolsheviks in the Civilian, including those captured by the White Poles.
    4. +10
      2 July 2024 07: 27
      Yes, it doesn’t. Your proposals? Put a million Russian people (I’m counting those still unborn) for the sake of liberating a couple of regions, just in the south? You see, the dry land people won’t scatter, they fight desperately for every bush. Who needs this? This is not necessary first of all to those whom we want to free in this way..
    5. +4
      2 July 2024 08: 51
      You can ask a question in order to improve education. Tell me, for example, who created the Estonian Labor Commune, the Lithuanian-Belarusian Soviet Republic?
    6. 0
      2 July 2024 10: 27
      "Part of the southern and eastern regions of modern Ukraine have nothing to do with it."
      So modern borders were taken from the ceiling. when the perpetual drunken man and Kuy Kuchma were dividing up the land, then out of great intelligence (or a hangover), the villages were cut in half by the border
    7. -2
      2 July 2024 15: 20
      Galicia is not Ukraine! She never was and never should be.
    8. +1
      3 July 2024 07: 57
      “Administrative division” is a consequence of the destruction of state borders between the republics formed during the collapse of the Empire. This is the result of unification into the Union. And you imagine this as division.

      As for justice, there are many examples in Africa. Where the borders were established by the state and “along the line”. This led to inter-ethnic wars.

      I hope you understand that the work of Congresses of Soviets in the USSR was not organized arbitrarily by the will of the “Red Sovereign-Emperor”?

      In short, modern people, who have only the idiotic division of their country in peacetime and the same idiotic enmity of everyone with everyone, need less ..... into the well dug by their ancestors.... They are the ones they were normal people... laughing
  7. +20
    2 July 2024 06: 07
    The authors of the article want to convince us that in Ukraine everything is going according to plan, was everything originally intended to be this way?
    Where did the initially voiced good intentions go? - 1. the fight against Nazism in Ukraine (our godfather is a Nazi himself), 2. protection of the Russian-speaking population of Ukraine from the Nazis (or there is no Russian-speaking population left there, there is no one left to protect), 3. protection of the civilian population of Donbass from shelling (also still debatable ), 4. demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine (how can this be achieved without the occupation of territories, is it really an “agreement”)....
    1. +7
      2 July 2024 07: 05
      Yes, all this is a cover for the main goal, which Putin announced in his ultimatum, and which many “jingoists” have.
  8. +6
    2 July 2024 06: 49
    "Hindus and related ethnic groups"
    Hindus are not an ethnicity, but a religious affiliation, Hindus
    Don't confuse Hindus and Indians
    1. -1
      2 July 2024 08: 02
      Quote: Ivan№One
      Don't confuse Hindus and Indians
      - especially with Indians ;)))
  9. +7
    2 July 2024 06: 54
    Vladimir Putin’s proposals for resolving the conflict in Ukraine, put forward in mid-June, are completely justified...


    The authors did not disclose the topic: WHO specifically are the proposals for resolving the conflict in Ukraine sent to.

    Putin's proposals are the position of one side of the military conflict. The position of the other side of the conflict in Ukraine on these proposals will apparently be different.

    Who is the Other Party to the military conflict in Ukraine?
    Who should Putin convince that the proposals “to resolve the conflict in Ukraine, put forward in mid-June, are completely justified”? (Appointed European puppets such as Stoltenberg, Scholz, Macron, etc. can be ignored)

    To convince the other side, which is actually opposing the Russian Federation, very strong arguments are needed.
    If there are no such arguments, the Russian Government will have to compromise.

    "...BlackRock, Inc. is the world's largest asset management fund. Their total value as of January 1, 2023 was $8,594 trillion, which approximately corresponds to the GDP (PPP) of Germany and France combined. However, this is not the only feature of the company. . ..
    The shareholder composition of BlackRock is not disclosed, but this company, as well as the second largest in terms of assets, The Vanguard Group (they, by the way, are the main shareholders of each other), are associated with the names of the richest families in the world - Rockefeller, Rothschild, DuPont, Mellon, as well as those involved in managing the finances of the Vatican - Draghi and Tarloni...
    The Zelensky government’s cooperation with BlackRock (at least publicly) began in September 2022. ... Under the terms of the deal, BlackRock will manage Ukrainian assets, including funds from the volume of “international assistance.” Thus, Ukrainian strategic enterprises, including those that were “nationalized,” are coming under transnational control. ....
    Indirectly or directly, the list of Ukrainian assets of BlackRock includes the securities of the following companies: Metinvest, DTEK (energy), MHP (agriculture), Naftogaz, Ukrainian Railways, Ukravtodor and Ukrenergo. In addition, according to LandMatrix, as of May last year, 17 million hectares of Ukrainian agricultural land out of 40 designated in the land bank were owned by three companies: Cargill, Dupont and Monsanto..."
    https://iz.ru/1512053/andrei-kuzmak/chernyi-voron-krizisa-zelenskii-zavershaet-prodazhu-ukrainy

    "Australian National Review: American corporations own almost half of Ukraine's agricultural land through intermediaries."
    https://rg.ru/2022/07/26/kogo-zashchishchaet-kiev.html
    1. Eug
      +9
      2 July 2024 07: 06
      That is, they swam and swam, but on the shore they shit themselves...
    2. +8
      2 July 2024 08: 08
      I personally don’t see any compelling arguments on our part... Since we are already turning to third countries for military assistance. Iran, North Korea... By the way, Iranian mines have shown themselves to be very crappy. When fired, the shank often comes off
      1. +6
        2 July 2024 08: 46
        Apparently, the Russian Government also does not see compelling arguments for persuading the “West” if it enters into separate negotiations during the Northeast Military District.

        ...American journalist Seymour Hersh, citing sources, claims that there were several unofficial negotiations on concessions between Moscow and the West...
        https://iz.ru/1716312/2024-06-21/zhurnalist-khersh-napisal-o-tainykh-peregovorakh-rf-i-ssha-po-ukraine

        PARIS, March 20 – RIA Novosti. Negotiations to resolve the conflict in Ukraine are already underway, but without the participation of France and the EU, said the leader of the National Rally faction in the French parliament, Marine Le Pen, on the radio station France Inter.
        "Today negotiations are taking place, and we know this, but they are taking place without the participation of France and without the participation of Europe. They are going through Turkey, they are going through China. We are completely excluded from the conflict that is happening on our doorstep, and in which we would It’s completely natural to participate in the capacity of an arbitrator and negotiator,” the politician said....
        https://ria.ru/20240320/ukraina-1934442253.html
  10. +19
    2 July 2024 07: 00
    Read the article
    I didn’t see any connections between the current situation and these examples.
    It’s not clear where the author saw them

    What connection did the author see in the struggle of young national states against the colonialists, whose metropolises were overseas, and who were not supported by NATO (and the United States generally encouraged the decolonization process with all its might, as a measure to finish off Western Europe), but many were supported by the USSR and the current war. .. oh, its - it’s absolutely not clear
    1. +12
      2 July 2024 07: 22
      Well, it’s just that some people really want to associate the Northern Military District with something positive, even with the Great Patriotic War in which the Soviet people defended their State from the enemy that attacked them, or with this in the article.
  11. +4
    2 July 2024 07: 19
    Quote from: dmi.pris1
    In fact. We cannot liberate half of Donbass, but we have taken our chances. Calculate how much it will cost. And yes, the people there simply do not want to be liberated. The examples given in the article do not reflect the real state of affairs in those territories at that time. People really wanted to expel the same French and Portuguese, with the exception of a minority of local officials.

    Hello. People don't understand that the "banquet" will be at their expense. War is a heavy burden for the common people in any country.
    1. +5
      2 July 2024 10: 38
      "People don't understand that the banquet will be at their expense"
      The banquet has long been at our expense. a dollar in 2014 cost 32 rubles. and now? Will be?
  12. +11
    2 July 2024 07: 29
    I don’t understand those who are drowning for the complete liberation of Ukraine, or the capture, from which side to look. Do you really want to feed and repay the debts of an impoverished and savage country? Again, allocate enormous sums for the restoration of their cities? Many people here are shouting that these are originally Russian cities, maybe they once were, just as Istanbul was not always Turkish, stop living with some kind of dreams, people die there every day, what the hell are we going to do with new lands, who will live on them? Guests from Asia? From which we can no longer breathe, they take our places, those who died
    1. +5
      2 July 2024 07: 44
      And those who started it and support it did not and do not think at all about the consequences for Russia and the Russian people. They simply “the end justifies the means.”
      1. +9
        2 July 2024 07: 50
        Those who support all this have had their brains zombified about some kind of unity, with wild concerts, stories about the liberation of some brothers besotted by the West. And at this time, millions of guests from Asia and other south are brought here to replace the lost working-age population, will they boost the taxi economy?
        1. +10
          2 July 2024 07: 54
          Unfortunately, since Perestroika it immediately became clear that tens of millions of people can easily be zombified by them - both by deceitful anti-Sovietism and by the propaganda of the anti-Soviet government. So, what the “hurray-patriots” write on the Internet is a retelling of propaganda manuals.
          1. +1
            2 July 2024 10: 50
            Quote: tatra
            Unfortunately, since Perestroika it immediately became clear that tens of millions of people can easily be zombified by them - both by deceitful anti-Sovietism and by the propaganda of the anti-Soviet government.

            laughing Wow!!! So even the water in front of the TV was charged with healing Energy!!!
        2. +3
          2 July 2024 10: 42
          "will they boost the economy by taxing?"
          what about hairdressers? What about food delivery people? and the doctors? The Russian economy will rise to unprecedented heights. you just need to believe in it and everything will be fine laughing
    2. +3
      2 July 2024 09: 02
      Quote: Vadim S
      I don’t understand those who drown for the complete liberation of Ukraine

      I agree with you. Obviously, there are no such possibilities.
      But what is the alternative?
      Stop at current levels? This is not a solution, the front is practically standing as it is.
      Give up some territories (already officially part of the Russian Federation) to stop the conflict? Rather, it will only increase the pressure from Ukraine and its “partners.”
      A radical solution would be to go beyond the ribbon, leaving our Crimea behind as well. With subsequent diplomatic explanations that, they say, we got carried away, sorry.
      I don't see any other options. Not just good ones, but some in general.
      1. 0
        2 July 2024 09: 14
        It is impossible to leave those territories that we can really defend. Even if we don’t liberate Kherson and Zaporozhye, this has become obvious
      2. -1
        3 July 2024 08: 25
        surrender Crimea and Donbass?..........
    3. +2
      2 July 2024 10: 48
      Quote: Vadim S
      I don’t understand those who are drowning for the complete liberation of Ukraine, or the capture, from which side to look. Do you really want to feed and repay the debts of an impoverished and savage country? Again, allocate enormous sums for the restoration of their cities?

      What does capture and liberation have to do with it? It’s just that the Banderstan regime needs to be demolished and their protégés put there. And then let them do it themselves, do everything themselves. True, your protégés there will also need to be supported, at least for the first time, at least with investments and orders. But the trouble is that we have huge problems with this within our country, because as soon as our rulers and oligarchs know how to pump into a pipe. There aren't enough brains for more.
  13. -16
    2 July 2024 07: 34
    It is not only the territories of the former Ukrainian SSR that need to be liberated and returned to the legal borders of Russia.
    It is worth considering the return of Baltic territories that legally belong to Russia.
    "According to the Nystad Treaty of 1721, signed by the King of Sweden on the transfer of the Baltic states, Karelia with Ingermanland and other Swedish lands to Russia. Russia paid Sweden two million thalers (efimks), and only in full-weight silver coins - zweidrittelstiers - and exactly on time (February 1722 years, December 1722, October 1723, September 1724). Historians say that today it is 350 billion dollars."
    Enough of enduring the adversary’s boot on your own lands.
    1. +11
      2 July 2024 07: 52
      So go ahead, grab the machine gun and go! Why write comments here??
      1. -10
        2 July 2024 08: 01
        He gave his military duty to his homeland during the era of the USSR.
        Not in the same physical shape at the moment.
        At the moment, I am working fully to restore the technological sovereignty of Russia.
        And very successfully.
        I have the honor!
        1. +8
          2 July 2024 08: 57
          sending someone to war, knowing that you won’t go yourself, is strong.. and most importantly, it’s safe.. laughing
        2. +5
          2 July 2024 09: 15
          Well then, why are you pushing millions to their deaths?
        3. +7
          2 July 2024 10: 42
          Quote: Livonetc
          He gave his military duty to his homeland during the era of the USSR.
          Not in the same physical shape at the moment.

          Convenient position!)))
          Quote: Livonetc
          At the moment, I am working fully to restore the technological sovereignty of Russia.

          This should have been done since 2014. But our leaders have different views and interests, as they were and remain. And they don’t fucking need any tribals or Ukraine. They don’t know how to pay pensions for these “conquests”. They don't know how to provide work. In Mariupol, for example, all construction sites are filled with unsplit firewood, and locals are not hired. If someone gets a job through miracles and tricks, then the salary is delayed for months. What kind of conquests can we even talk about here?
          Until the power radically changes, until the views at the top regarding the distribution of national wealth change, there is no point in thinking about any conquests or victories. And that is why the guarantor talks about peace negotiations and appeals to the enemy with some plans for a settlement.
          1. -16
            2 July 2024 10: 51
            - Barrymore, what is that howling in the swamps?
            - The population is buying toilet paper, sir.
            - But why?
            - The buckwheat turned out to be not very good, sir.

            But don’t touch the Supreme Commander-in-Chief!
            1. +10
              2 July 2024 11: 17
              Quote: Livonetc
              But don’t touch the Supreme Commander-in-Chief!

              And who is it? Do we even have one? Otherwise, no matter how the question about the Northern Military District goes to the Kremlin, it sends a mustache to the Moscow Region.
              P'P ° Pј СЃР ° РјРѕРјСѓ то РЅРµ СЃРјРµС € РЅРѕ?
      2. -14
        2 July 2024 08: 59
        It is figures like you who are the fifth column, which will serve in the police and on the side of the enemy, I have been convinced for a long time that the cleansers of the thirties were correct.
        1. +8
          2 July 2024 09: 54
          Quote: Alex aircraft
          you are the fifth column, which will serve as police on the side of the enemy

          What enemy? Someone attacked Russia and occupied it? Or are you talking about millions of Asians and future Sharia patrols in the cities of our country? Then yes, we are in the process of occupation. And we are fighting in a slightly wrong direction.
        2. -14
          2 July 2024 10: 04
          Perhaps not a fifth column.
          Quite similar to the working style of IPsO employees.
          In ruins, this matter was handled on a professional basis, unlike us.
          They were hooked.
          And this is good.
          Work Brothers!
          Each in its place.
          1. +11
            2 July 2024 11: 20
            When there is nothing to cover, only the notorious “tsipso” comes to mind. By the way, I haven’t read this abbreviation here for a long time.. Probably people have started to think more with their heads and not with their TV
          2. +4
            2 July 2024 14: 03
            Quote: Livonetc
            Work Brothers!
            Each in its place.

            How pretentious it sounds from the sofa! I have already heard that you personally are not in good condition. Do you have children? What about your son, conscription/mobilization age? Or again to the wrong cash register? Well then, of course, you can throw your hats all the way to the Pentagon, we know the matter)))
            1. -1
              3 July 2024 08: 40
              The daughter is a doctor, assigned to a specific field hospital that is in reserve. The son is liable for military service.
              Are you the same navalnyashki, non-twinists, or are you still employees of the IPsO?
              Well, for the mood.
              1. +1
                3 July 2024 09: 10
                Quote: Livonetc
                The daughter is a doctor, assigned to a specific field hospital that is in reserve. The son is liable for military service.

                Well, send them to Lviv to liberate them. The recruitment is fully open.
                Quote: Livonetc
                Are you the same navalnyashki, non-twinists, or are you still employees of the IPsO?

                You are all the same, hat-throwers, turbo-patriots. All the heat would be to row with someone else's hands.
    2. +1
      2 July 2024 10: 46
      "Not only the territories of the former Ukrainian SSR need to be liberated"
      That's for sure. and the Kazakhs did not deserve to slaughter such a piece of land
  14. +17
    2 July 2024 07: 40
    We swam, we know. "There is no alternative to the Minsk agreements."

    It took eight years to conclude that there is. True, one of the main authors of these agreements, Surkov, wrote already this year that he considers them “an outstanding achievement of Russian diplomacy,” since the LDPR became part of Russia.

    If someone at the top really evaluates the Minsk agreements this way, then there is nothing more to say.

    A great power differs from small ones in that it makes its own decisions and carries them out. Any calls to the enemy during hostilities will be perceived by part of the enemy’s establishment as weakness and provoke him to escalate.

    It's obvious, Watson.
  15. G17
    +8
    2 July 2024 07: 48
    An inspiring article in defense of the new Minsk-3 or Istanbul-2. Meanwhile, everyone understood perfectly well during the Russian Spring of 2014, and even more so now, that as long as there is at least one piece of so-called “Ukrainian” territory on the ancestral Russian soil, it will be an eternal springboard for NATO to attack Russia. And we shouldn’t lie to all of us that we can make peace with the enemy, that Ukraine and NATO are about to throw out the white flag. The situation is different. In 2014 and 2022, we had every chance to destroy Bandera’s Ukraine, but as a result of betrayal in Minsk and Istanbul, we found ourselves involved in a war with the entire NATO bloc. That is why the West has already repeatedly rejected all of Putin’s peace proposals, since it views them as a manifestation of weakness and cowardice. Peace proposals should be put forward to the enemy when the Russian flag will develop in Kyiv and Lvov, and not now, when the two Russian regional centers of Kherson and Zaporozhye are still occupied by the Ukrainian fascists.
    1. +1
      2 July 2024 10: 32
      Quote: G17
      and not now, when the two Russian regional centers of Kherson and Zaporozhye are still occupied by the Ukrainian fascists.

      Yes, what does the region have to do with it? centers? Even if the Donetsk region. Mostly under Khinzrs.
  16. +20
    2 July 2024 07: 52
    Incomprehensible article. If we talk about decolonization, then what does Russia have to do with this? It was said that the Russian Federation proactively abandoned communist ideas and voluntarily went to the collapse of the USSR. Consequently, she lost her authority and reputation. If we talk about the plans of the President of Russia, then from bold statements in the summer of the 22nd that everything is going according to plan, and more moderate ones on the 23rd that we have not started anything yet, to the statement during a visit to Vietnam that the defeat of Russia is the end of its statehood . There is a firm belief that the authorities simply do not know what to do, and at the same time they are putting forward some plans. This is from powerlessness and not from common sense and success on the battlefield.
    1. +22
      2 July 2024 07: 56
      I wanted blitzkrieg, but got zugzwang, and I had to pretend that it was planned that way, that “everything is going according to plan.”
    2. +8
      2 July 2024 10: 29
      Quote: oleg Pesotsky
      There is a firm belief that the authorities simply do not know what to do, and at the same time they are putting forward some plans. This is from powerlessness and not from common sense and success on the battlefield.

      I strongly agree! And time works against GDP. Now the flow of those wishing to cut down the bobble in the Northern Military District will dry up, and the Khinzirs will lower the age limit for mobilization. Self-mobilization 2022 perfectly showed that few people want to go die for the capitalist interests of the rotten and thieving elite.
      1. +6
        2 July 2024 16: 01
        There was a stream of people interested.
        There was also a flow of those who went to earn money.
        But people are a finite resource. As it turned out.
        In TG they wrote about villages from Siberia, where literally the entire male population went to the Northern Military District - 50-200 people per village. They didn’t have a job, so many retired military and retired men are hard workers - and here comes the money and hurray-we-win from the TV. The reality turned out to be different.
        and to replace this patriot, a certain Putin imports other Islamic patriots.
        Today a banner was shown in TG - a Russian city (latest census - 93% Russians) Novosibirsk - greets those entering with the inscription - welcome to the MULTINATIONAL city of Russia Novosibirsk.
        Why is this? why do they cheat? Why is this word introduced into the concept of a mono-Russian city?
        agenda.
        in the West she is LGBT - but in ours she is multinational.
        and who needs it? Putin will leave, but the imported Tajiks will not. Our children live and interact with them, and there they are savages, not people. Yesterday in TG they posted how a foreign specialist of about 25 years old raped a pig on a pig farm. and no haram is a hindrance to this Islamist when his base animal instincts begin to play. They write that they will deport.
        and then it turns out that Putin will again sign an amnesty for deportees, as he has already done twice in 2 and 2021.
        and the pig rapist will return.
        that's scary.
        migration rot and the agenda for it - they don’t even want to fight it or admit it on TV,
      2. +1
        2 July 2024 20: 37
        Well, there are those fooled by TV. Here’s an example. We had a shift foreman working at a grain elevator... Last spring he accepted a contract... So they didn’t even get to the front, they covered the cars with something heavy. In a Rostov hospital, he was riddled with shrapnel... at least he’s alive remained..Patriotism, that’s what it is. Life-threatening
  17. -15
    2 July 2024 07: 58
    Quote: tatra
    Well, he could demand anything, only those territories in which the Ukrainian authorities
    in the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions, the Ukrainian enemies of the USSR will not give up, and taking them by military means will require years and enormous sacrifices. And the Americans, especially, will not lift the sanctions.

    That is, colleague, do you want to say that the Russian Armed Forces are not capable of breaking the backbone of modern fascists, as our glorious ancestors did in 4 years? winked
    1. +13
      2 July 2024 08: 06
      But propaganda is not for me. I'm a realist.
    2. +10
      2 July 2024 09: 19
      From what is visible today, no, they are not capable.
    3. +13
      2 July 2024 10: 21
      Quote: Radikal
      Do you want to say that the Russian Armed Forces are not capable of breaking the back of modern fascists, as our glorious ancestors did in 4 years?

      Even for the third year it still doesn’t work out. So far, even Belgorod cannot be protected from shelling.
  18. +4
    2 July 2024 07: 59
    Since there are no other plans, there is naturally no alternative to this plan.

    You just need to remember that this is not the first plan, but, perhaps, already the third, if you count only those that were made public. There were probably a number of secret and very cunning plans.

    Therefore, there is no alternative to the plan, but there is no certainty that it will be implemented. There is confidence in the opposite.
    1. +4
      2 July 2024 11: 02
      “Therefore, there is no alternative to the plan, but there is no confidence that it will be implemented. There is confidence in the opposite.”
      if you know what the plan is, how can you know when it will be completed? Only the author of this plan knows this, and he, at any moment, can call it completed and declare victory, with amnesty, fireworks and blackjack. well, further in the text laughing
  19. +9
    2 July 2024 08: 05
    What is the article about? That sometimes countries solve their problems by force? Well, yes... that in the 60s the Europeans did not want to organize an unpopular massacre on the other side of the world? How do these cases prove/explain something regarding SVO? But in Korea, Vietnam, in the Falklands, they wanted to carry out a massacre on the other side of the world... The NWO is more similar to the Iran-Iraq war than any of the examples given by the author...
  20. +5
    2 July 2024 08: 06
    Quote: AA17
    BlackRock's shareholding is not disclosed

    again this conspiracy theory)))
    Well, for example, until 2022 I was a “shareholder of Blackrock and Vanguard”; for diversification, I placed a small part of my pension portfolio in index funds from these companies... so what? )) (yes, I managed to pull it out before freezing, now 100% in Russian exchange-traded index funds)
    these are asset management companies, essentially global brokers.
    there are a couple of tens of billions of equity capital there, the profitability is not cosmic.
    You don’t consider the owners of the Moscow Exchange, for example, to be the owners of ALL companies that are traded on it? ))
  21. +20
    2 July 2024 08: 17
    Well, if we had such plans, then there was no point in starting. The same Mariupol and the land corridor to Crimea could have been nibbled off in 2014. In terms of increasing territories for security? Well, that’s also my own argument, it still flies to Belgorod.... Of course, I can’t see all the strategic heights from my stool, but I would like a little more understanding.... What is the general calm, and what is our plan? Which is simple and reliable like a Swiss watch....
    1. +16
      2 July 2024 10: 17
      Quote from turembo
      Where is the calm, and what is our plan? Which is simple and reliable like a Swiss watch....

      Whose is OUR? The guarantor and the boyars have one plan: to survive and remain in power. THAT'S ALL, there are simply no other goals. The king turned out to be naked...
  22. +9
    2 July 2024 08: 29
    Again they are gathering their hats in a heap, a long road awaits them... And Slavyansk and Kramatorsk have not been liberated...
  23. -7
    2 July 2024 08: 41
    Quote: tatra
    But propaganda is not for me. I'm a realist.

    Firstly, you yourself often do what you decided to reproach me for. Secondly, have you decided that my reference to our Victory in 1945 is nothing more than propaganda, that is, following your logic, there was no Victory? Then why are you better than our enemies, by the way about whom you constantly express yourself in impartial terms here? This is me being delicate. hi
    1. +5
      2 July 2024 08: 55
      Firstly, I do not engage in propaganda, I write the truth about the Soviet, pre-revolutionary periods, and about your anti-Soviet, starting with your Perestroika, I expose anti-Soviet myths, lies, slander, the hypocrisy of the enemies of the USSR.
      And it is blasphemous to equate what the enemies of the USSR did with the defense by the Soviet people of their State from a united Europe led by Hitler that attacked the USSR.
      And what propaganda suggests to people like you is an analogue of equating Stalin with Hitler - to equate those against whom with someone very bad.
      And in this case, I am “not for anyone,” I am for the USSR, and against all the enemies of the USSR who captured the USSR.
      1. -5
        2 July 2024 09: 01
        Oh-oh-oh, “Ostap” went, stream of consciousness. If you had read my comments on my profile, you might not have written this nonsense to me. Therefore, I regret that I previously supported your comments. Alas for me, alas. bully
        1. 0
          2 July 2024 09: 02
          Well, if I offended you, I'm sorry.
  24. +4
    2 July 2024 09: 03
    Interesting photo at the beginning of the article. Do the Belarusians know that Kyiv will be attacked from their territory? I read the article and thought Staver or Skomorokhov, but no, I was mistaken.
  25. +14
    2 July 2024 09: 12
    The SVO in the form that it acquired in the third year looks like the liberation of living space from the Slavs in favor of the Tajiks in Russia and the destruction of the Slavs in Ukraine. Of course, the goals were different, but...

    26.6 thousand square meters remain under Ukrainian control. km. four regions. In the first six months, promotion amounted to 725 sq. m. km. and this is in conditions of starvation shell rations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in winter and spring. At this rate, the liberation of the constitutional territory will be completed by 2043.
    A protracted military conflict did not make any country stronger, especially a multinational country with a large number of internal contradictions - after the First World War, the multinational empires of the losing countries collapsed, and after the Second World War, the empires of the victorious countries collapsed.
  26. +1
    2 July 2024 09: 16
    Please note that in the 21st century there were no such precedents, and there never will be... the conditions give everything and we don’t shoot, they won’t pass
  27. +9
    2 July 2024 10: 14
    Vladimir Putin’s proposals for resolving the conflict in Ukraine, put forward in mid-June, are fully justified by examples of conflict resolution in many countries with the West. When everything was done on the basis of similar initiatives of these countries.

    All these proposals are not a settlement of the conflict, but only its freezing. For 5, 10 years, but this is not the end of the conflict at all. The preservation of the existing regime in Kyiv guarantees the continuation of the hot phase of the conflict. The Ukrainian Armed Forces will simply be pumped up with even more modern weapons and will carry out full mobilization with high-quality training. But grandfather is not interested in all this, he would like to sit still now. It is quite obvious that there is no longer any talk about denazification and demilitarization of Ukraine. For how the guarantor puffed out his cheeks on February 24, 2022. It seems that Naryshkin’s reaction was quite adequate then, given the state of affairs in the RF Armed Forces at that time.
    PS: I didn’t even read the rest of this empty writing. No.
  28. +1
    2 July 2024 10: 27
    Quote: Zoer
    Quote: Radikal
    Do you want to say that the Russian Armed Forces are not capable of breaking the back of modern fascists, as our glorious ancestors did in 4 years?

    Even for the third year it still doesn’t work out. So far, even Belgorod cannot be protected from shelling.

    I agree, but this is not the fault of the troops, and in general - the RF Armed Forces. I hope you and all other participants understood me. sad
  29. +6
    2 July 2024 11: 02
    Quote: Zoer
    Quote from turembo
    Where is the calm, and what is our plan? Which is simple and reliable like a Swiss watch....

    Whose is OUR? The guarantor and the boyars have one plan: to survive and remain in power. THAT'S ALL, there are simply no other goals. The king turned out to be naked...

    You, my friend, really burn with the verb.
    I respect brave people.
  30. +3
    2 July 2024 11: 51
    Exactly in Russian? Not funny..
  31. +8
    2 July 2024 12: 45
    So there is no alternative to Russia’s plan

    Well, what is the alternative after the adoption on June 12, 1990 of the Declaration of the SND of the RSFSR No. 22-1 “On the state sovereignty of the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic”, from the rest of the republics of the former Union....
    Remind me who contributed to the decision of the deputies of that congress? wink
    And some individuals rejoice with breath and celebrate this “great holiday” in the Russian Federation.
    1. +3
      2 July 2024 14: 13
      Quote: Sovetskiy
      Remind me who contributed to the decision of the deputies of that congress?

      Remind me. It's better not to forget this. I still can’t understand, in what frenzy did they do this? What did you even want?
      1. +3
        2 July 2024 20: 06
        What did you even want?

        Money and fame, and it’s not weak to manage what’s left by robbing...
      2. +4
        2 July 2024 21: 17
        Quote: Zoer
        Remind me. It's better not to forget this.

        Mr. Yeltsin & Company held an action for a “consolidated” position among deputies in resolving this issue. wink
        He really needed this voting result.
  32. +2
    2 July 2024 13: 17
    Quote: ZloyKot
    “Therefore, there is no alternative to the plan, but there is no confidence that it will be implemented. There is confidence in the opposite.”
    if you know what the plan is, how can you know when it will be completed? Only the author of this plan knows this, and he, at any moment, can call it completed and declare victory, with amnesty, fireworks and blackjack. well, further in the text laughing


    This plan was made public and is named after the author, so its implementation is quite difficult to falsify. Although there is definitely one way, and it has already been used - after each election we have a new president who is not responsible for the previous one, despite the amazing similarity.
  33. +9
    2 July 2024 14: 17
    There is always an alternative, and in this case even several. Most likely, another six months of trench warfare lie ahead, then Trump, who must win the election, will present Russia and Ukraine with a soft ultimatum from the neo-Korean world. Russia will be offered to take away, without official recognition by the West, new territories and a long delay in the dancers’ entry into NATO. Ukraine will be offered an accelerated pace of accession to the EU and restoration at the expense of Russian assets. For refusing to accept this plan, Trump will threaten:
    - Russia - new heavy sanctions, long-range weapons for dancers, introduction of a limited NATO contingent.
    - to the dancers - refusal of external funding, no new weapons and no accelerated EU.
    This is the alternative I see. At least it's real.
    1. +3
      2 July 2024 16: 07
      I also lean towards this theory. + or -.
      They are already openly saying on TV that 2024 will be a turning point in the conflict.
      but at the front there is nothing turning point yet and nothing is foreseen... then what?
      That's right - the Joker in the form of Trump is in power in the USA.
      with him, everything you voiced above takes shape.
    2. +3
      2 July 2024 16: 47
      And if Trump loses, then what?
      1. +1
        2 July 2024 18: 07
        Then the conflict escalates. The dancers are being given new trenches and long-range weapons, but we will try a strike in one of the strategic directions. Against this background, any, including the most unforeseen, events are possible. In general, the edge of the abyss...
      2. +2
        2 July 2024 20: 04
        And if Trump loses, then what?

        And even if he comes, even if he loses, the US policy will not change, so it’s neither cold nor hot for us who will be the new President of the United States. Since both Biden and Trump have already encountered the indecision of a guarantor, one in Ukraine, the second in Syria after the famous “we will sink the carriers”... So the war will continue, in any case, no matter what our political scientists imagine
  34. +1
    2 July 2024 16: 20
    Quote: Glagol1
    There is always an alternative, and in this case even several. Most likely, another six months of trench warfare lie ahead, then Trump, who must win the election, will present Russia and Ukraine with a soft ultimatum from the neo-Korean world. Russia will be offered to take away, without official recognition by the West, new territories and a long delay in the dancers’ entry into NATO. Ukraine will be offered an accelerated pace of accession to the EU and restoration at the expense of Russian assets. For refusing to accept this plan, Trump will threaten:
    - Russia - new heavy sanctions, long-range weapons for dancers, introduction of a limited NATO contingent.
    - to the dancers - refusal of external funding, no new weapons and no accelerated EU.
    This is the alternative I see. At least it's real.


    Is quite real. The most unreal thing about this is Trump's victory.
  35. 0
    2 July 2024 17: 32
    What does this have to do with validity? What matters is OPPORTUNITY
  36. +6
    2 July 2024 20: 08
    Calm down, everything is going according to plan. According to the Russian plan

    Rather, according to the plan developed in the Republic of Afghanistan... For nothing else can explain such dances
  37. 0
    3 July 2024 11: 19
    Quote from: dmi.pris1
    .People really wanted to expel the same French and Portuguese, with the exception of a minority, local officials.

    Where did the firewood come from? Residents of, for example, the Portuguese colonies in India did not want to return to India - why?
    The history of the “liberation” is well described - they sent in Cossack provocateurs and that’s the end of it.
  38. +1
    4 July 2024 02: 00
    So what's the plan? Minsk - 3 and further lamentations that we were deceived again or the NWO for 40 years at the current pace?
  39. +1
    4 July 2024 16: 02
    Everything that the author wrote in the article is good and it’s inspiring, but it’s all history - since then the world has changed many times and will change again, I understand that they won’t tell us too much, but I want to know the details.
  40. +1
    5 July 2024 18: 22
    The other side of the conflict has a different alternative; the point of view that turns out to be stronger, in the sense of deadlier, will win, this is the most convincing argument. Otherwise, I don’t think they will understand. Prolongation of the conflict will inevitably lead to the use of more powerful weapons. There is no need to believe that the West will not give Kyiv more powerful weapons.
  41. +2
    6 July 2024 19: 02
    1. Of the five people I know about, 4 went on a contract to get money, one took a break from his wife))), 1 said - I just want to go there.
    2. About shots in the back. 1,5 years ago I watched the UkroTV channel for 1 hour 20 minutes and felt like a wild and cruel occupier who attacked someone who was not white and fluffy, etc. It took about 2 hours. Oh, they watch it every day. In the same Kherson, residents looked at the incoming Russian troops like wolves. They turned off UkroTV, turned on ours - after 2 weeks they were smiling and waving. What is worth demolishing the TV towers there to organize our broadcasting (balloons to help increase the height of the antenna and, accordingly, the broadcasting range).
    3. If I hadn’t said GDP about 4 areas, I would have called it a betrayal. If so, the other side will work on the mistakes and even more blood awaits us. The minimum is the entire left bank + the remains of Khersonshina and Zaporozhye + Odessa + Nikolaev.
    1. 0
      8 July 2024 05: 31
      Perhaps these volunteers did not really know the real conditions? It was recently said throughout the country that our army now resembles a partisan detachment.

      My relative is a conscript employee. He says that he wanted to find out what the conditions were so that after the end of the term he could sign a contract.
      He serves in an elite unit where there are children of high ranks. It turned out that even there the food is such that people order pizza for their own. Shoes and pants are crap. In these boots you will wear your feet until they bleed. Also for our own. I understood what the real attitude is. And now he’s decided that being a consumable material in someone else’s business is no good for him. So an argument like “take a break from your wife” looks naive. In the next world, rather......